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7-20: Jackson is in! World Cup with Danny Jackson and Brad Evans, we talk Mariners with Ty Dan Gonzalez · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some headlines brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Frost Brood Coors Light Choose Chill. The World Cup
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  Speaker 2: has ended. We have a champion and that is Spain.
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  Speaker 2: Spain win it one nil over Argentina. They get one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixth minute goal by Fernon Torres and that
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  Speaker 2: puts them having their second championship, coming after twenty ten
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  Speaker 2: where they won it in South Africa. Mariners, what a moment.
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  Speaker 2: On Saturday, Cole Young had tied the game with a
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  Speaker 2: three run blast and then the Mariners win that on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday and they catapult that into another win on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: The turning point there with Cole Young and suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners are back to fifty and fifty half game out
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  Speaker 2: top of the Al West. New Zealand golfer Ryan Fox
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  Speaker 2: has won the Open Championship after burning the seventy second
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  Speaker 2: hole yesterday at Royal Birkdale. For the Storm. They have
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  Speaker 2: fallen to the Fever on Friday of a score of
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  Speaker 2: one ten to one oh seven, and Michigan Athletic director
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  Speaker 2: Ward Manual will step down at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: calendar year. Let's kick things off on the ten AM show,
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  Speaker 2: shall it ten to noon before Ian Forness takes over?
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  Speaker 2: Jess could be with you.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to be with you.
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  Speaker 4: I think this is probably the best day I could
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  Speaker 4: ever work with you.
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  Speaker 3: Right after the World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: You put in so much hard work over these pasts
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  Speaker 4: and people might not realize it. They hear you, but
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  Speaker 4: they don't realize you're doing one the afternoon Drive show
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  Speaker 4: at the same time as you're doing all of this
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  Speaker 4: World Cup coverage. And I think you Anders, Danny and
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  Speaker 4: Brad did such a great job of bringing it to us.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think our entire crew there met Danny Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: Brad Evans. You mentioned them. They're on their way in
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  Speaker 2: studio right now. They're gonna be here in about fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do a kind of I think a decompression
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  Speaker 2: of the World Cup, you know, talking about yesterday's final,
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  Speaker 2: the win for Spain, the legacy of Spain, who were
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  Speaker 2: kind of I mean they took a page on a
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's playbook, like quite literally of we're going to
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  Speaker 2: control and play great defense, not give the other teams
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  Speaker 2: a chance to even score on us. Spain very seahawk
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  Speaker 2: like with their win. Yeah, there yesterday in the World
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  Speaker 2: Cup final. So Danny Jackson, Brad Evans are gonna join
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  Speaker 2: us for I'm gonna see if I can bend their
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  Speaker 2: ear for two segments. We'll see. But they're on their
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  Speaker 2: way in now, and we're gonna do a little in
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  Speaker 2: studio roundtable at the end of soccer. We'll kind of
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  Speaker 2: have a bigger conversation too of what this might have
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  Speaker 2: done for soccer in the United States, the World Cup overall.
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  Speaker 2: And then also ty Dane Gonzalez one of my absolute favorites.
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  Speaker 2: He's the host of the Mariners Locked On podcast. Locked
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  Speaker 2: On Mariners. Ti Daingzol is one of my absolute favorites
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  Speaker 2: covering this team. He's gonna join us at eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: and talk about the Mariners. We'll get to your talkbacks
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  Speaker 2: and texts. We got the Tacoma Dodge text line four
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  Speaker 2: nine four five one. Hit me up, hit Jess up.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to talk about, whether it is the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners who I mean, my gosh, we'll start on that
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  Speaker 2: in a minute. But what a moment. I think that
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  Speaker 2: turned the whole weekend around, and then the World Cup
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  Speaker 2: you know, did for you out there listening? Did your
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  Speaker 2: interest in soccer rise at all from the last month
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  Speaker 2: and a half, Because I mean, it's it's nice to
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  Speaker 2: say going in, Yeah, I'm gonna care about the World
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  Speaker 2: Cup for the next two months. But I think one
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  Speaker 2: of the big questions for me, Jess is how much
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  Speaker 2: is soccer actually going to grow in this country moving forward?
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  Speaker 2: Does it put an extra two thousand and three thousand
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  Speaker 2: butts in the seats at Loominfield for Sounders games, or
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  Speaker 2: for Columbus Crew games, or for Orlando City games. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing that I really want to know is
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  Speaker 2: the casuals out there, will they actually attend more, will
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  Speaker 2: they actually watch more? And We probably won't know that
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  Speaker 2: answer for another six months.
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  Speaker 3: Right exactly. And you look at it and I think
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  Speaker 3: it will.
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  Speaker 4: You had mentioned it when you were on with Chuck
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  Speaker 4: that you'll see kind of an immediate hopefully. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know their marketing team all that well, but
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  Speaker 4: I hope that they're marketing to that growth right now.
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  Speaker 4: Take some information that you learn for this season after
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  Speaker 4: the World Cup, and then continue to do those things,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not take it for granted.
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  Speaker 3: I guess as what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I wish that MLS had done
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  Speaker 2: a lot more advertising during the World Cup. I mean
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  Speaker 2: as you're watching World Cup games, and maybe I missed
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  Speaker 2: something like if you four nine four or five to
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  Speaker 2: one and hit the talkbacks iHeartRadio app, press that little
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  Speaker 2: red button and you can send us a talkback. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that at eleven thirty. Maybe I missed something.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't see the advertising for MLS for local
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  Speaker 2: Soccer that I would have loved to have seen during
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup, and that would have been the thing
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  Speaker 2: that I think could help catapult this league. They put out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of a nice big push over this
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  Speaker 2: last weekend of you know, thanks world. We'll take it
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  Speaker 2: from here, but I needed more over the course of
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  Speaker 2: the month and a half from MLS. So anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: would love to know if casuals out there are more
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  Speaker 2: interested in the game now. I'm more interested in say,
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  Speaker 2: Sounders are just watching soccer now that the World Cup
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  Speaker 2: is over and we have a champion in Spain.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I think when it comes to casuals,
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  Speaker 4: you are talking about people who could just have more
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  Speaker 4: interest in watching soccer. Maybe not the MLS, maybe not,
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  Speaker 4: but hey, there's a team in my backyard or and
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  Speaker 4: I think they do a pretty good job. When it
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  Speaker 4: comes to a family friendly environment, I think that soccer
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  Speaker 4: tends to be. I mean, the Sounders are really tremendous,
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  Speaker 4: They're very good at their stadium.
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  Speaker 3: I would just say.
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  Speaker 4: Experience, but yeah, do you make it more family friendly?
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  Speaker 4: Do you have some certain packages we see the Mariners,
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  Speaker 4: do you know really nice promotional nights and things like that,
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  Speaker 4: fireworks nights, you know, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: And there is I think a low I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk Mariners here in a minute, but I will say
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  Speaker 2: there's a lower level to it as well, where you know, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you can you know pay you know, say thirty bucks,
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  Speaker 2: forty bucks, whatever it is to go to a Sounders
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  Speaker 2: game and you know, be there part of the thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand crowd. There's also lower levels because so many neighborhoods
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  Speaker 2: have their neighborhood soccer teams. I mean, there's what's called
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  Speaker 2: here the USL two League. It's kind of a third
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  Speaker 2: division league in the United States. And there's a team
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  Speaker 2: in Ballard. Ballard actually is playing in the Western Conference
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  Speaker 2: final of USL two, the women's side, Salmon Bay. Salmon
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  Speaker 2: Bay just won the USL Women's Championship. Over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: They have games over at Inner Bay Stadium. So if
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  Speaker 2: you're in you know, kind of the Ballard Inner Bay neighborhood,
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  Speaker 2: Queen Anne. There's local teams who play right there. West
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  Speaker 2: Seattle Junction's a team, There's Midlakes United on the east side.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many of these different little teams who play
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  Speaker 2: in the area who have what you're talking about, that
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  Speaker 2: family friend friendly environment. So we'll see if that picks
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  Speaker 2: up two of people who you know and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: ten bucks, I'm gonna just go check out my local team,
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  Speaker 2: because I hope that they also would seem perhaps a
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  Speaker 2: bump from that too, But I don't know if we
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  Speaker 2: find that out for another six months of what the
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  Speaker 2: World Cup may have done. I think that's a larger
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  Speaker 2: conversation to have once we actually kind of see the results.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, just let's spend a few minutes before we
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  Speaker 2: get Danny and Brad in here, and we talk a
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  Speaker 2: lot of World Cup before that. I do want to
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  Speaker 2: talk to Mariners, and I think this weekend can boil
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  Speaker 2: down to one moment. And it's a Saturday game, Mariners
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  Speaker 2: obviously playing this series against the Giants, taking two out
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  Speaker 2: of three. They're down three nothing to the Giants on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: and they had had a stretch where they had had
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  Speaker 2: seven base runners in fourteen innings. Now it's seven base
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  Speaker 2: runners in fourteen innings. Horrific, just I mean, makes you
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  Speaker 2: want to just fall over and go to sleep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly you get two men on Cole Young, three
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  Speaker 2: run bomb, three to three game, you win at four
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  Speaker 2: to three or often running and Julio has the walk off,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and I think then you trace that into
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  Speaker 2: Sunday where you have another comeback Luke Rayley and then
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  Speaker 2: Cole Young again another two run shot. What a weekend
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  Speaker 2: he had? And for me, this is one of those
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  Speaker 2: moments where all, right, Mariners, what are you gonna do
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  Speaker 2: about it? Kind of like the soccer question, well, couples, great,
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  Speaker 2: what are you gonna do about it? MLS Mariners, what
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  Speaker 2: are you gonna do about it? Because it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those moments you can look back to if they now
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  Speaker 2: go on a run. Dick Fane always talks on the
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  Speaker 2: Afternoon Show about these summer Mariner runs, and they are
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  Speaker 2: famous for having these insane streaks of you know, whether
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  Speaker 2: we know, fourteen straight wins or you could win, you know,
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  Speaker 2: seventeen and nineteen. We've been accustomed to this now for
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  Speaker 2: a few years, and this kind of feels like one
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  Speaker 2: of those weekends, Jess, where they can now ride against
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  Speaker 2: a Reds team this week where you know, game tonight
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  Speaker 2: at tim Opark or sorry is it I think it is?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So they have they have yeah, So they have these
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  Speaker 2: games coming up TEAMO will Park six. I was wondering
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  Speaker 2: if they were the seven ten games. They're still six forty.
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  Speaker 2: So you need to take care of the Reds this
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  Speaker 2: series because the Reds right now are bottom of the
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  Speaker 2: NL Central. They're pretty decently bow of five hundred. You
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  Speaker 2: got probable pitchers coming up of George Kirby, Luis Castillo,
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  Speaker 2: Emerson Hancott going then on Wednesday, and I get your
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  Speaker 2: face in a Chase Burns tomorrow, who's eleven and one
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  Speaker 2: with a two to five VRO. That's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: tough game. But you gotta win this series and you
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  Speaker 2: gotta build on that weekend's success because if you do
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  Speaker 2: want to, I think, not only take over the Rangers
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  Speaker 2: who lead by a half a game, but if you
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  Speaker 2: do want to, you know, make a statement of no,
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  Speaker 2: we're we're trying to get back on track to win
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  Speaker 2: the AL West, and we're gonna be in position to
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  Speaker 2: make trades, to make a move. I want to ask
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  Speaker 2: Tyd and Dade Gonzalez at eleven o'clock what kind of
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  Speaker 2: move he would make and when when he would make
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  Speaker 2: that move? Over the next ten days, you got to
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  Speaker 2: win this series against the Reds this week, I think
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a requirement for the Mariners to take
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  Speaker 2: to at least two or three from the Reds.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree. I woul one hundred percent agree.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing is we haven't seen them kickstart this
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  Speaker 4: season yet, Like we just haven't.
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  Speaker 3: We sawt earlier in the season last.
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  Speaker 4: Year where they erased a horrific epicet that they had
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  Speaker 4: and you know, go on to great things.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm all good for getting hot at the right time.
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  Speaker 4: I am all in for that. But when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to this, we saw a spark this weekend. We saw
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  Speaker 4: a spark. We saw Julio come off the injured list.
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  Speaker 4: We saw Luke Raley do Luke Raley things. Colt col
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  Speaker 4: Jong keeps doing exactly what he kind of proved he
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  Speaker 4: could do earlier in the season, but we didn't expect
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  Speaker 4: it to be as consistent as it is. So how
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  Speaker 4: do we ride that pitching staff is healthy? We are
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  Speaker 4: going in the right direction. The piggyback, I thought that
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  Speaker 4: they were doing on purpose to save for later in
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  Speaker 4: this and to save fresh arms. So but what you
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  Speaker 4: just said, and it's kind of Angie Mentek, who was
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  Speaker 4: on the tchuck earlier, kind of made this really good
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  Speaker 4: analogy of like, it's like talking to my kids.
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  Speaker 3: You have all the potential to do this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know your dirty socks are really close
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  Speaker 4: to the hammer.
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  Speaker 2: Just get them in.
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  Speaker 3: I know you can do it. I know you can
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what she was saying from her
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  Speaker 4: perspective on this team has all the potential in the world,
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  Speaker 4: and when are we actually going to see it consistently
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  Speaker 4: come through.
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  Speaker 2: Because it does feel like you're just wasting this pitching staff.
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  Speaker 3: And how many times have we said that with this.
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  Speaker 2: Team, but I mean, truly, right now, it just it
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  Speaker 2: continues to just get wasted. And yes, right now they're
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: in the playoff picture. If the playoffs started today, they'd
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  Speaker 2: be the four seed facing the Red Sox, And okay, great, cool, right,
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  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you look at
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  Speaker 2: where this thing is going and you say, well, you
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  Speaker 2: need to jump Texas. You need to then kind of
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  Speaker 2: give yourself some space in between Texas. You need to
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  Speaker 2: prove that they're worthy of making I think a big trade.
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  Speaker 2: But the season over the last couple of weeks, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I come kind of stretching this through the All Star break,
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  Speaker 2: but the team had won five of six games, you know,
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  Speaker 2: finishing that Toronto series, and then you go to Miami,
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  Speaker 2: you lose on a walk off there back on the seventh,
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  Speaker 2: and that's you know, just absolutely snowballs into a five
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  Speaker 2: game losing streak and Suddenly we go from all right,
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  Speaker 2: maybe this is the start, maybe this is the summer
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  Speaker 2: streak five a six, into oh god, oh god, there's
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  Speaker 2: five straight. And now we're back to winning three of four.
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  Speaker 2: So it's one of those things. Well, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite one of my favorite TV shows,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: my favorite TV episodes, the Twilight Zone. Will the real
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Martian please stand up? Well, the real Seattle Mariners please
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  Speaker 2: stand up? Is this a team that is going to
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  Speaker 2: make another summer run? Get in contention and stay in contention.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't mean contention for the West. I'm in
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  Speaker 2: contention to win the whole damn American League. Because that
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  Speaker 2: is the conversation that we all thought was going to
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  Speaker 2: happen going in right now. I don't know if anybody
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  Speaker 2: is realistically having the conversation of, yeah, they can win
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  Speaker 2: the American League, we can get to a World Series.
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  Speaker 2: This team has not proven to be good enough to
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  Speaker 2: be in that conversation. But you go in two or
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  Speaker 2: three from the Reds, you go make a trade. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: not it's the level of the two trades last year,
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  Speaker 2: but you go make a offensive addition to the team,
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly maybe that conversation changes, but it really does
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  Speaker 2: all start with this Red series once again. You got
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  Speaker 2: six point forty first pitch tonight, t Mobile Park, George
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  Speaker 2: Kirby on the mound for the MS. All right, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get back to ems with ty Dan Gonzalez coming
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  Speaker 2: up at eleven o'clock. But we got Danny Jackson and
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  Speaker 2: Brad Evans in studio. The World Cup is over Spain,
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  Speaker 2: our champions. We're gonna do a little roundtable here in
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  Speaker 2: studio for the next half hour or so. Break down
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup, break down the final yesterday. If you
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  Speaker 2: missed it, we will give you some deep x's and
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  Speaker 2: o's that you can take to your water cooler work
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  Speaker 2: this week. Make you sound smart in the language of soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Got Danny Jackson and Brad Evans instance udio. My name
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  Speaker 2: is Jackson Feltz. I am in for Greg Bell here
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  Speaker 2: today going up until noon on Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three KJRFM. Welcome back, Welcome back, Jackson Felts in
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  Speaker 2: for Greg Bell today alongside Jessmin McIntyre here going up
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  Speaker 2: until noon when Ian Finness will take over here on
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Glad you're joining
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  Speaker 2: us here this morning, we are a day removed from
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup final. Yesterday we had it for you
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  Speaker 2: right here on KJR. It is Spain with your World
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  Speaker 2: Cup champions, beating Argentina by a score of one to
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  Speaker 2: nothing and joining me here in studio, back into studio
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  Speaker 2: a day after they joined us. So glad that these
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  Speaker 2: guys could pop back in for a for a segment
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  Speaker 2: or two. Danny Jackson, the voice of the Sounders here
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  Speaker 2: on KJR and the Sounders legend Brad Evans, gentlemen, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for coming back in today.
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  Speaker 7: It's good to be a whirlwind of events.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine it's been a whirlwind last month and a
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  Speaker 2: half for sure, Danny. Let's because it's been so many
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  Speaker 2: broadcasts and you're nearly fifty with you guys here on
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  Speaker 2: iHeart and KJR. So thank you so much for all
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  Speaker 2: the time and this right here. Let's let's wrap this
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  Speaker 2: thing up and let's talk about yesterday's game is where
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  Speaker 2: I want to start here. Spain won nothing over Argentina. Danny.
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  Speaker 2: It took one hundred and six minutes for this game
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  Speaker 2: to find a goal, but Spain finally found one. What
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  Speaker 2: do you make of yesterday's final?
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  Speaker 8: I think it was inevitable that it was going to
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  Speaker 8: happen at some point the manner in which the game
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  Speaker 8: was playing now Argentina didn't have a short and goal
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  Speaker 8: to the final minutes of the game. Messy was extremely quiet,
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  Speaker 8: all to do with the way that Spain played through
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  Speaker 8: Rawdery dictated the pace of the play through the middle
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  Speaker 8: of the and of course, when you have eleven players
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  Speaker 8: who can defend eleven players.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: Who want the ball from each other.
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: It's a very difficult beast to beat. And Spain were
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: the defensively best team in the tournament. Offensively, they were
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: extremely efficient and they were patient.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: What Argentina have shown over.
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: The course of the Knock it Around especially is a
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: level of resilience and mentality and patients. Well, Spain had
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: it in a slightly different way. They were just able
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: to prod and poke and eventually it broke through coming
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: out of that break in the extra time. But at
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: the end of the day, the best team won. I
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: think Spain proved themselves. They smothered friends in the semifinals
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: who buy all accounts where everyone's favorites, and they came
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: into this final. I think we expect the final to
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: go the way, it was maybe not quite as one
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: sided for as long as it was. Sometimes in these games,
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: you get these ebbs and flows where you can dominate
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: a game, but inevitably the other team, especially as good
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: as Argentina, you're gonna get something from the other team
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: and you're gonna have to withstand that pressure and then
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: get back on top of the game.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: That flow didn't happen.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Alvarez didn't get a chance to really get is in
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: behind and really trouble Simon in any specific way, and
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: the end of the day was desperation. The final minutes
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: for Augina managed to get a couple of off chances,
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: but it was too little, too late, And I think
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: that yellow cart at the end of the regulation time
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: from Fernandez was a real punch in the gut.
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: I think for Argentina, if you go back to twenty
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: twenty two, they were kind of living on a tight
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: rope there in that tournament as well, and somehow I
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: think they just ultimately used up all nine lives and
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: it just wasn't It just wasn't meant to be today,
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: and I just I can't watch MESSI after the game crying,
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: and then I watched the game and you hear stats
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: that you know only only walk sixty five percent of
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: the time. Well, why wouldn't you just put more into
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: the game in the first ninety minutes before the red card.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: I understand, after the red card, you're gonna sit, You're
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: gonna play a four four one, You're gonna sit up
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: top by yourself. But if you're that upset, that distraught,
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: then rip a muscle off the bone. I don't care.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: I guess some of a have a different mentality. Obviously,
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: we're watching it from outside saying we would love to
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: be in that situation, but your game plan has to
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: switch at some point when all the knockout rounds seem
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: to have gone into extra rounds. Is what it felt
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: like for them, scoring so many goals so late, having
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: him put so much energy. I just imagine a world
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: where he's such a great player and has the ability
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: to turn it on. But if there were forty five
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: minutes to turn it on for the entire forty five minutes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: what that would have done to his teammates around him,
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: so that they didn't feel like they had to do
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: so much off the ball to get him the ball?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah, no, it does. And I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: think in the context of greatest of all time, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: think we can all agree Messi's number one. But it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: these sorts of things that make you go God. But
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know, he could be number one with a mile
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: from number two, you know, and maybe it is that. Ever,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Danny, if it changes anything in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you know, historical perspective of Lionel Messi that he loses
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: what might be? I mean, I don't know. I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: that there's maybe a slim, slim shot that he comes
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: back to finish his final World Cup in the stadium
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: where it started at all in Barcelona. Maybe this is
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: it and if this is it, his final world call,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: his final World Cup ends with that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: But also you think it's eight goals for assists for
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: a thirty nine year old, and.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: It's pretty remarkable.
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: I mean, he pulled a game out that had several
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: different times in the knockout rounds where he just grabbed
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: the game by the scruffnick and did it. Argentina relied
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: on some special moments from some special players. They relied
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: on teams like England the semifinals kind of leaning back
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: on their heels. They took that opportunity to push forward
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: and eventually they broke through. But I think Brad's absolutely right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: Even in the twenty two World Cup and Serill in
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: this one, I mean Cape Verdi. They could have lost
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: that game and then they pushed through against Egypt to
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: nil down win three to two. England really should have
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: put one over them, going one mill up. They got
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: that back. That's incredible resilience, incredible mentality. But we talked
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: about it. Messi has been given this role of winning
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: games at the appropriate time, and he's patient enough to
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: do that. The game just didn't turn in his favor
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: to allow him to get that momentum and find the
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: ball in the right pockets of space.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: And that's because of what did they did, not what
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: England did. England gave him the game. They said, here,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: what are you going to do with the ball? Make
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: us look silly Spain, Like we said, if they go
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: up one nothing and throughout the whole game they were
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: just going to keep the ball, and they did seventy
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: percent of the time they had the ball. And if
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: you keep the ball seventy percent of the time, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: Messi only has had a few off chances, and then
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: you have Rod reed to pretty much shut him down,
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: and their defense proved why they were so good and
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: why they were only able to allow one goal in
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: the entire tournament.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: And I think, but I think, if you take a
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: step back and you let the dust settle, Messi at
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: thirty nine.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: Had an incredible tournament. Yes, if it wasn't for him,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: who knows.
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: If you play with eleven players like Madrid on both
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: sides sorry of Spain sides of the ball, if you
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: have a slightly different outcome, it certainly would go a
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: certain different way in terms of the way the games
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: play out.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: But I think Messi.
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: Without Messi, I think Argentina at a quarter final team,
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: probably at best. So you know, you think about how
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: he elevates that team. He won them a World Cup.
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: He got out from the shadow of Maradonna with that
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: World Cup win. So he's been in three World Cup finals,
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: lost to one one. He's won two Copra Americas. Now,
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: so you think under sclone when Scloni took over in
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: twenty eighteen, Argentina would try to find their way again,
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: not just under illegal Messi, who was the best player
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: in the world potentially at that time already, but who
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: were they going to be and Sclone basically leaned into
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Messi and said, hey, you are our man. We're going
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: to build a team around you. We're going to lean
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: on the other players to add five to ten percent
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: of additional capacity in their defensive side.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: You saw that in World Cup.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: They were on their hands and knees after every single game.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: It's just one game too many. Maybe, and maybe if
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: you had a tournament with thirty two teams and you
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: had one less game, maybe that would have been the way.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: It worked out slightly better.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: But when you add the extra game and the extra
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: pressure at some point, with the heat and the intensity
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: and the pressure and the anxiety, at some point it
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: just wears on you. But I don't think you could
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: look at anything other than Messi this being a fantastically
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: successful World Cup for him, for this team. I think
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Argentina were the upp echelon of teams where the expectations
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: could they win it?
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: But realistically it landed.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: On the shoulder of one individual to get them through
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: certain games. But again I look at this from the
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: standpoint of his career that he is number one, there's
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: no question about it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question at all. And you mentioned the extra
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: game and the extra pressure. It's kind of the topic
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of my last game question talking about Spain. By the way,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: we're doing a little bit of a World Cup roundtable
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the day after the final. I'm Jackson Feltz. I have
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Danny Jackson brad Evans here in studio here on KJR
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: to break down the World Cup final yesterday and this
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: entire tournament that we'll get to. But wrapping it with Spain, Danny,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: you mentioned the extra pressure of the extra game. So
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Spain set the record for most clean sheets in a
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: World Cup by two, I believe, record for least goals
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: given up during an entire tournament. The record was previously
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: two set by Spain in twenty ten. Now the record
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: is one set by Spain in twenty twenty six. You know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: when we look at the historical context of how Spain
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: in this Spanish twenty twenty six team will be remembered,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're coming out of a Seahawks Super Bowl
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: title year where the dark side everybody around the nation
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: knows Seahawks defense, and they are remembered and will always
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be remembered for the defense. Frankly for both Super Bowls.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: But talking about this last one and now Spain, it seems,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: will get kind of that same note being remembered for
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: their defensive performances.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: I agree defense wins championships, no question about. You have
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: to have a strong foundation. But what they do so
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: well as both sides of the ball, they defend with eleven.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: They swarm the ball when they lose it, and then
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: they play quickly through that that defense and when they
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: win the ball, they break the line and they go
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: forward in numbers as well, they're a collective unit both
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: sides of the ball. They're efficient, they have belief, they
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: have trust in what the coach is doing. As a
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: coach has been through the youth national team ranks, has
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: built a system as Spain have been built on since
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: that twenty ten team, where as mentioned before, was a
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: tig taket play but with a purpose and they managed
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: to find a way to get it done.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: But when you think about Spain in the.
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: Context of this World Cup as well, is potentially have
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: a better goalkeeper on the bench in Riyah for Arsenal
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: Whune Simon had a fantastic World Cup one goal conceded.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: They potentially had one of the best defenders in this tournament,
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: Laporte playing alongside Kubasu, who won the Young Player of
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: the Tournament, two defensive anchors. Then you have probably the
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: best central midfield player in the world in Rogery in
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: front of that triangle with the goalkeeper in behind was
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: really a place where they could start defensively. But it
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: wasn't the eleven best players to get on the team.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: It was the eleven best players for a system to
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: be on the field. And then we always talk about
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: a team in the World Cup often leans at about
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: fifteen or sixteen players. Those four or five players that
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: came off the bench did incredibly well. Marino scored two
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: goals off the bench to win games, Torres off the
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: bench scored from an assist by Williams off the bench.
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: So and Pedri, of course, from the best centry midfield
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: players for Barcelona, didn't even get a sniff because Ruiz
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: for PSG was playing so well alongside Roder.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: But that's a great shout in a group of collective
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: players able to do their role for the collective. Greater
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: good for a guy like Pedri in his stature, he
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: could have easily said I don't even want to go,
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: I don't really want to play, but there's something within
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: this group where if you buy in, you're gonna win,
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: and if you want to be amongst a group of winners,
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: you can do it. I love that they do it
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: without a real superstar. They have a potential superstar, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: they don't have a real superstar.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: And I think for Spain.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: There this will go down as it has to go
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: down as one of the most successful World Cups for
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: any country just based on goals against. I mean, that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: when you hang your hat on something. Yes, they ask
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: how many you've won, but at the second question is
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: how you did it? And this one will go down
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: once again is as another amazing tournament for Spain, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: it just is a surprise that in between now and
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: twenty ten to twenty twenty six, what happened in the
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: other World Cups that didn't allow them just to get
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: to that next level like they've shown that they can.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: I think it's fascinating.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: I think every country and every team in an support
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: has a certain, you know character in which you would
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: imagine them to be right and you know, defensively, it
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: could be in England or Argentina. For Spain's about possession
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: right going forward in the attack, middle third of the field,
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: especially how they play the ball around and how they
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: advance almost in a unit. But you're right, like defensively,
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: you wouldn't say this is a defensive stalwart of a
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: team in world soccer. But the manner in which they defend,
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: not just with the ball, because it's you can't beat
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: a team if you don't have it, but the fact
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: that they do swarm around the ball and win the
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: ball as a unit and then break through it. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: I give this example in pregame yesterday. Baina, who's that left.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Sided player, not a big superstar, but.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: I remember in a game I think it was against
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: France where he got knocked down in the attacking half
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: of the field should have been a free kick. He
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: didn't sit on the ground and complain. He jumped up,
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: sprinted back thirty yards, helped his team win the ball
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: back and off they went again. That's demoralizing for the
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: other team if you're looking at these players just won't
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: give up defensively or offensively.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: At some point you lose a little bit of belief.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: But they and they did that yesterday as well. Every
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: foul Argentina tried to do what Argentina did, and that
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: was a disrupt play. They did it really well in
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: the first fifteen to twenty minutes against England and it
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: did it shifted things for England just a little bit,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden yesterday against Spain, they tried,
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: they were trying to be but Spain rode through the challenge.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: There was a little bit of antics after the game,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: but during the game there wasn't too much to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: had there. And I think they have a very professional coach.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: When he says something, the players listen, and that's just
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: all about respect at the end of the day.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: Paradus I think was one of the players that go
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: in some scuffles at the end of the game and
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: I think that was a good change actually half time
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: for him to come and he didn't start the game,
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: but he he did allow certain players in Argentina and
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: like Fernandez and Mcallis and Depault to play a little
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: higher in the second half and it worked a little better.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: But his comment joined the World Cup was, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: it is our role as a team to make sure
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: this is not the last game for Messi.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Spain's the complete opposite.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: Right, there's a true focus that works for the Argentinian team,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: no question about it. And you have a superstar that
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: can win games for you or proven, but Spain don't
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: look and say, hey, we're winning this game. So it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: not your mold's last game in this World Cup. It
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: is about each other and I think it's a very
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: different mentality and it worked for them in this tournament.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: That's the voice of Danny Jackson. He's the voice of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Sounders here on KJR. Also have Brad Evans
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in the sounder legend here. My name is Jackson Felt
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: sitting in for Greg Bell here today from ten to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: twelve here on KGr. Thanks so much for joining us.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: We have a few minutes and I want to talk
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to you about the World Cup overall, how we look
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: back at this whole tournament, and especially here the six
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: games here in stead Seattle. Brad mentioned England. Danny, I'd
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: be remissed if I didn't ask you how you're doing, buddy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: You know, I mean morning.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: My wife Brianne looked at me after the England game
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: when we lost to Argentina, and she just saw like
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: this kind of vacant look in my face, and I
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: was like, you know, it look like how dog had
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: died or something.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, it just it was very sad.
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: England have always been on the precipice of getting to
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: that final step to win a big tournament. They've made
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: finals and semi finals over the last ten years.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Wasn't to be.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: I think England were at fault. You can blame the
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: coach for certain tactics and substitutions in Tukel and he'll
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: be analyzed till the Cows come home over the coming
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: weeks and months.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: At the end of the day was the mentality to players.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: They scored in the fifty fifth minute and instead of
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: pressing forward, which again Brad and I have talked about
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: Spain do that they get ahead, agains its friends and
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: they keep going and keep going, don't change the way
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: they're doing, and that takes away the belief from a
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: team to come back. England cracked open that door for
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Argentina and they took it because of the experience and
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: the desire that they have. But you know England, when
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: it's that third fourth place game and you have to
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: be proud, it's again nobody wants to play in.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: It was against France, so it's a big.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: Arch rival Anyhow, it's a fantastic game all the semi finals,
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: in the third fourth place game and the final or
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: could have been very worthy finals. That was the four
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: best teams in the World Cup, in the world to
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: play in the last four. So England scored six against
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: France made it a little bit more difficult than it
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: should have been that second half, and France came through
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: and scored four. But that was a great way to
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: finish the World Cup as kind of a curtain race
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: to the final. Because the final wasn't a classic, the
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: third fourth place game was. I think it's a little
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: bit like the US and their performance. There was such
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: high expectations, probably more on this group of US players
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: than there ever has been specifically because we're hosting and
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: now we seem to have this great base of youth
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: talent that's playing all throughout the world, and the expectation
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: just wasn't met.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: For the US.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: I think England they checked a box of we are okay,
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: We're okay in this moment with that result.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: But for US, I think with the US, we.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: It was a.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: Disappointing World Cup overall. I mean, there were a couple
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: good moments, but in terms of how I thought it
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: would play out for the US. I thought there was
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: really a good chance that they would make the quarterfinal.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, let's quickly stop. I'm going to take a
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: quick early break and we'll come back and we'll wrap
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: things up for the tournament and the United States there,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: because I think that's where a lot of brains at,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: especially here in Seattle, is well, how do we look
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: back at the United States after blowing it against Belgium
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: here in our building a couple of weeks ago. So
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I got Brad Evans, I got Danny Jackson. My name
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: is Jackson Feltz in for Greg Bell. We got one
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: more very quick segment here as we wrap World Cup
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. It's been a lot of fun here
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: at KJR on iHeartRadio across the country over the last
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: couple of months. We'll continue wrapping the tournament and then
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: we'll turn to some baseball. I got ty Dane Gonzalez
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: talking to Mariners coming up at eleven am. Coming up
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: here just around the corner. So stay tuned to US
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. Welcome back, everybody.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Jackson Felds here in for Greg Bell. This morning Sports
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Thanks for joining us
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: here in studio for a little World Cup wrap up show.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Here a mini roundtable here in studio with the guys
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: who joined me yesterday in studio. Thankfully that they could
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: come back in and pop through the doors for a
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: second straight day. It's been many many days here in
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: this building for them over the last couple months. Brad Evans,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the Sounders legend, Danny Jackson, the Sounders voice here, the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: play by play voice on KJR for the games. We
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: left that last segment and Brad, you talked about the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: United States men's national team. Guys, I do want to
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: wrap things for the United States. Danny was such a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: disappointing ending for them. Me, you and Anders were on
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that broadcast down from Jimmy's on first where the team lost,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: just got blown out by Belgium. And I think the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: big question is where does the United States go from
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: here after that really disappointing end.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: I think, and Brad could probably have a comment.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: When I looked forward into the World Cup, what was
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: the expectation.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Of the US.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: Maybe it was round of sixteen, but I think at
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: that first game when we beat Paraguay convincingly. I think
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: it changed people's mentality and they kept that going throughout
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: the group stage. Turkey was a different type of game,
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: many different changes, but they took care of business against
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: Australian and against.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: Bosnia as well.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: And I think what the most disappointing thing about that
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: was is that there may have been an expectation to
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: get to.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: The round of eight.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: Obviously it's the first time you got there since two
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: thousand and two in the manner in which they played
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: in earlier games. Unfortunately, it was the worst time to
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: have the worst game you could possibly play. Too many
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: players made individual mistakes, they never played in their front foot.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: The flow Balligan situation was noise and a distraction. Think
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: it had to be for him individually and as the
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: team and the team in totality, and I think there
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: was so much expectation from the crowd, so much expectation
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: from the general public, and the players just couldn't stand
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: up to it. My comment was is that what the
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: US need to do, I think moving forward is those
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: players need to be marquee leaders on their respective club teams,
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: where other players around them lean into a Tyler Adams
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: lean into a Chris Richards to get them over the
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: line at the domestic level, because they are most likely
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: players now that lean lean on others and when the
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: pressure comes on, you needed somebody in the middle of
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: that park to grab that game by the scruff and
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: demand certain things from certain players at least just run
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: and give it something. And I think they were all
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: looking at each other for some kind of inspiration and
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: it wasn't there. I think that's where the US team
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: need to go because I think if they can get
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: that from the individual to bring into camp and on
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: the field, that will help them get over the hunt.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: I got to talk with Christian Rodon a little bit
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: about that situation. I asked, and what was it like
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: at halftime and he said, look, guys were yelling at
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: each other. It was feisty inside the locker room. Well,
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: the question is why not on the field. Why not
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: show the fans something to get into a tackle, anything,
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: fight for a header, show us something that you care.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: But he's spot on. If you don't have players. We
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: have players that are playing at very good teams and
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: training on a regular basis with very good players, But
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: until you're the man at the team you're always going
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: to get these results. None of you have the top
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: four teams in the world FIFA rankings playing in the
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: semi finals for a reason. It's because every player stepped
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: up on a weekly basis. They're leaders in every respective team,
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: most of them, and the US doesn't really have that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: I mean, Tim Reem is probably the closest one to it,
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: and he's kind of probably on his way out and
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: he's not a world class player by any means. But
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: when you look around the world, that's what it's gonna take.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: It's a great point and a great take that all
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: these guys you at least need four or five to
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: be the guy. And look, it's still a young team
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: at the end of the day. They have the opportunity
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: to still gain that experience and hopefully it's another three
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: and a half four years in the prem for Tyler
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: Adams to continue to grow and he can be that
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: player for sure.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: But on the field, where was it?
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Where was it? Wor yeah and he yelling?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: We asked this question of the Sounders all the time too.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: I think that's the organic growth of the team.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: When you think about there was a few players that
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: played in England in Europe, Casey Keller being one of them.
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: Tim Howard, of course, Clint Demsey, Landon Donovan had it
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: some time in Germany and in Everton as well. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: now you've got the entire eleven playing on teams. But
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: now that eleven might drop to three four five have
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: to be that that player that you know, that's the
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: natural evolution. It's not gonna happen overnight, but I think
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: it's there. I mean, the US should develop those types
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: of players. It'll most likely be in an environment in Europe,
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: but the USO in a good spot. Obviously question marks
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: of what happens with the coach, you know, I think
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: the US would, I'm sure, like England, love to have
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: a US coach for a US team, very much.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: Like I think you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: You made the stat earlier this weekend on I think
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: the England France game that no team has won the
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: World Cup with a foreign coach, right, It's always been
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: a domestic coach for that particular country. And I think
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: there's something special by that because they understand the personality
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: of the group of the players and of the country well.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And I think there's the also part of it of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the United States youth soccer system, and Danny, I know
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you got kids to play, and it's sort of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: element of how do we fix the youth soccer system
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to get the best athletes in the United States playing soccer.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That's a whole different conversation we have no time to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: get into. I do want to wrap with our final
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: couple minutes by looking back at this tournament. Brad Evans
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Sounders legend, Danny Jackson, voice of the Sounders here on KJUR.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: My name is Jackson. Felts in for Greg Bell today
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: from ten to noon on kJ R. Once again we're
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: talking Mariners coming up at eleven o'clock with ty Dane Gonzalez,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: but talking about the World Cup in general. Brad looking
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: back at the whole thing over the last couple months,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: more than just how it finished here in these semi
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: finals and the championship with Spain taking it all yesterday
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: by a score of one and nothing. What are the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: takeaways from this, you know, three country World Cup, United States, Canada,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Mexico that has happened over the last couple of months.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I think what.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: Opened my eyes the most was all the noise about
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: fans not showing up to the games, not coming into
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: the country boycotting the World Cup, you know, not willing
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: to travel. But now almost every single game it looked
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: completely sold out, and after the first few games, it
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: actually blew my mind how many people showed up and
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: really got to experience the country. I mean, my favorite
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: part of the World Cup was just watching Early Holland's
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: YouTube channel and his full experience in the US. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: love to see that sort of stuff because that's what
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: we do when we go overseas. We put on the
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: Nordic Viking hat and we walk around downtown sides. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: and we get made fun of and now the flip
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: side of that, we get to highlight on that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: So I just love how they really leaned into.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: The American culture and that like American dream quote unquote,
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: so stoked for the fans. Actually here in Seattle, I
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: went to the last game, but got to experience the
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: vibe in front of the stadium was unlike anything I
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: had ever been a part of.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: Uh, And I'm glad it only happens every four years,
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: because I can't do this every year.
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: Yes, I agree, but what I think is is the
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: world got to see what America really is and what
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: Mexico and Canada offer to the world as well. The people,
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: the cultures, the nuances, watching early Hrland walk off the
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: plane in Norway with a stuffed raccoon with a bottle
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: of whisky somewhere ready to drink that baby. Yeah, it's
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: some kind of tea shove in in Texas. And it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: just brilliant that the food that people were eating, all
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: the memes all over the place, the fans, the Scottish
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: fans drinking Boston dry. I think the pub in the
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: middle of Boston on the eve of the Scotland game
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: did a three x business compared to Saint Patti's Day.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just incredible.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: And then then you have you know, the Dutch and
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Orange and the Argentinean fans are incredible, and Norwegia with
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: the Viking rows all over the country, the Egyptians, the English,
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: and you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Can go through the mall right.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: Every single country was so well represented. There were questions
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: about the integrity of the fields in indoor facilities and
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: outdoor facility that they were immaculate. There was never any
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: animosity on the field, in the stands off the field,
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: which can happen in big tournaments with all these different countries.
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: It was a lot of love and there was a
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: lot of enjoyment of this amazing game. And I think
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: there'll be a lot of fantastic stories and experiences that
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: will leave these shores and go back home to wherever
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: that might be and tell some of these great stories,
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: these great individuals that grace this game as well. It
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: was a tournament of the Cinderella stories and the Cape Verdies,
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: and the Curasaws and the Hated could the Congo and
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: it is incredible that your stories like that. But then
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: you have the big time players turning up. They all
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: did turn up. I mean the only player you could
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: say was a little bit quiet was probably Ronaldo in
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: some ways, you know, and they still would popped up
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: and played a ton of minutes for Portugal. But Bape
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: and Kine and Bellingham and Yamal obviously wins the World
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: Cup in Harland, and they all turned up and it
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: was a fantastic spectacle.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: All you hope is that on any.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: Given day, on any given tournament, that each team in
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: each indvidual is the best they possibly can. I think
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: you can't really look at this tournament to anything other
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: than just an unbridled success in all in all aspects,
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: I think the dynamic ticket pricing was very much maligned,
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: but it, as Bratt said, every stadium was packed. Yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: the atmospheres were amazing. I think it was a very
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: special World Cup.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: It was very special and it was very special to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: do with you guys. I can't thank you. And I
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: know Pete Fewing and Steve Zachawani who joined us, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Anderson Hurst who hosted Games two. It was an absolute
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: joy doing it alongside of you guys across the whole country.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, we kind of did it at here
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and in studio out of a broadcast booth we do
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: for Sounder games, and it was an amazing time. And
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: to be out there for that game, Jimmy's on first,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the Belgium game. The games in Seattle, Danny has been
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a magical last month and a half with you guys.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: The last thing I would say, just for Seattle specifically,
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: is just we hosted such an incredible World Cup just
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: for the entire six weeks. The planning committee here at
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: Seattle twenty twenty six did an amazing job. The City
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: of Seattle showcase, the region showcase, itself so incredibly well,
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: we all should be extremely proud of the place that
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: we live and the people that love this game.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: And of course let's not forget we have rain and
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Sounders support now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And guys, we're actually out of time, so I don't
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have time to ask you any Sounders questions. But I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: think coming out of a was it. I don't even
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: want to mention that lost to Portland, but yeah, well
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it was. We will talk to Sounders, I think what
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: we have Wednesday at Austin five pm. Pre game over
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: on nine to fifty km on Wednesday, so we'll get
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: back to Sounders then. But again, thank you so much
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: for all the work your last couple months. Thanks so
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: much for coming back in studio again today. Thank you
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: so much, guys. It's been an absolute joy the last
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: couple months with you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Thanks man, Appreciate you. Same to you guys. You guys
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: at amazing job.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That's Brad Evans and Danny Jackson name is Jackson. Felts
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: will continue sitting in for Greg Bell. We'll talk some Mariners,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: we'll move from soccer to baseball and talk with ty
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Dan Gonzalez coming up next here on Sports Radio ninety three.
• 43:15
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• 43:31
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  Speaker 2: headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed Coors Light. Spain
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  Speaker 2: are the World Cup champions. They take down Argentina and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Messi won nothing. A goal from Fernon Torres in the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixth minute gets Spain at their second
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: World Cup. Mariner has taken two of three from the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Giants over the weekend. Cole Young two home runs, including
• 44:30
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• 44:32
  Speaker 2: weekend around. We're going to talk about that with ty
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Dane Gonzalez of Lockdown Mariners coming up in a moment.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Michigan Athletic director Ward Manual gonna step down at the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: end of the calendar year, and New Zealand golfer Ryan
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Fox won the Open Championship. He birdied the final hole
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: seventy second hole yesterday at Royal Birkdale. And then I'm
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: not sure if he saw this, just how he got
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: home after the Open Championship. He flew in coach on
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a commercial flight and put the claret jug in the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: overhead bin above his seat in the main cabin of
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: his commercial flight.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I saw that he had the real one and the replica.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: He had to get two of those.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: A man of the people, another man of the people,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: somebody who always flies with the people, somebody who would
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: absolutely keep any trophy in the overhead bin like a
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: man of the people. Ty Dane Gonzalez of Lockdown Mariners
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: joining us here on kJ R.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Ty.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend.
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: I'm doing great, Jackson. Thank you guys so much for
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: having me today.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming back on Jackson. Fell us in
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: for Greg Bell by the way, going up until Ian
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Ferness here at noon today. Tied in Gonzalez. You can
• 45:45
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• 45:49
  Speaker 2: get into it with the Mariners. There's a lot to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: discuss coming out of this series. And I think for me,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the big question that I talked about in the opening
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: segment today earlier one can Cole Young's three run blast
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: on Saturday tied the game at three, ends up winning
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: it in extra innings. Julio does win on Sunday. Can
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that moment on Saturday be the turning point that launches
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: another one of these summer runs that we've had over
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: these last few years.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: I certainly hope, so.
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: I think we all certainly hope.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: So.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: I think it's also.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: Kind of like how we all hope that Jimysy is
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: this year's at Sea witch right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I think the god the Jimothy. I'm not sure what's
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: wrong with that raccoon. I haven't done the research into
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: the medical condition.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I okay, I've read what was out there. A short
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: spine is short, so it's compressed.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, if Jimothy can show up at Team
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Mobile Park and lead, I don't care how this team wins.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I just want to see wins tie and we see
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the week ahead. I mean, this week feels like such
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: an important week in the grand context. You're facing a
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: last place Red team. Then you got Friday through next
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Monday in Texas for four games. It seems like make
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: or break considering the tread downe deadline looming, like they
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: need to prove. It feels to me like for Depoto
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: and Hollander that this team is worth adding to in
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a big way.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, It's a massive week. It's a it's a massive
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: home stand. You you know, you open up the second
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: half of the season against two of the worst teams
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: in the National League and the Giants of the Reds.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: It was nice to.
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: See this team, you know, show some fight in these
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: last two games, you know, falling down early in both
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: of those games and finding a way to claw their
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: way back and you know, find a way to win
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: both of those games.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: You had to win that series.
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: You have to stack wins on this Homestand we've said
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: this on the podcast for the last week or so,
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: looking ahead to this home stand, and it said, you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: you need to go four and two, you know, five
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: to one, you know on this homestand because of you
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: know what you just laid out again, You're you're going
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: to Texas for four, You're going to La to face
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: the back to back defending champs for three, and then
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: when you get back home for that final series before
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: the trade deadline, you got three against the Minnesota Twins.
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: Who's another team that you're competing with here for you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: at the very least a wild current spot. So this
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: is a crucial, you know, two weeks stretch here for
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: this club, and I think specifically with the Giants you
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: know now and the renewer, but them and the Reds
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: come into town. You know, these are two teams that
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: you need to handle business against. And frankly, the Mariners,
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: you know, a big reason that they're in the position
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: that they're in right now is because they haven't particularly
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: handled business against teams like the Giants and the Reds
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: this year.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And it sort of feels like we're that
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, big turning point of Okay, if
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: you do have a poor week or next two weeks,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: then maybe I don't know if the Mariner has become sellers.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I think the seller talk is a little bit crazy
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: considering the Manners are holding a playoff spot right now.
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: But and frankly, the aos of the American League might
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: not let them die.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: No matter what exactly. I mean, God, it might take
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: you eighty five wins might win this division when it's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: all said and done. Considering that Texas leads it at
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: what are they fifty and forty nine right now and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are fifty and fifty So yeah, I mean,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: who knows how many wins wins the Al West this year?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the next two weeks certainly will
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: constitute the next week my constitute. What kind of trade
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Dupoto makes. I mean, I don't know but for you,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm pretty confident the Marriagers are going to make
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: a trade. It's just the question of how big of
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: a deal from Hollander and to Poto are we talking about.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe that will be decided over the next seven games,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: but that's kind of what I'm wondering is is what
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: size the deal? And then when that deal comes, do
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: you make it now before anybody else can jump on
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: offensive players available?
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's the big question right now. That's the
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: question that I'm still trying to find the answers to
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: on my show as well. You know, it's really the
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: Mariners have the pieces to compete with anyone for anyone
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: at any you know, player acquisition period. It's just a
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: matter of who's actually realistically.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Available right now.
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: And I think you know, from from an offensive standpoint,
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: there aren't a lot of options, and what you're probably
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: looking at there are more of the complimentary pieces, you know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: the platum bats, if you will. I know, that's kind
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: of a you know, a sacrilegious thing to talk about,
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: especially in the merit space, but like that's probably what
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: you're looking at. You're probably looking at right handed bats
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: that improve your chances against left handed pitching. Uh. And
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: then you know, if you're going to make a bigger deal,
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: it's probably going to be for a bullpen arm.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: That would be my guess.
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: And obviously there is history. They're just you know, very
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: recent history there last year would say, you know, trying
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: very hard to go out and get you on to
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: run from from the Twins, and ultimately they you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: they just fell a little bit short in that regard.
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: I think that suggests that they would you know, take
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: another big swing in the bullpen this time around. It's
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: just you know, who is that for, right, Like, is
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: Mason Miller a realistic possibility? With the padres or is
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: it more so someone like Luke Weaver who's making a
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: bit of money and how does that impact you know,
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: what the trade costs could be there and all that.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: So a lot of questions there, But my guess is,
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: if they're making a high impact edition here in the
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: next couple of weeks, it's going to be in the bullpen,
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: not in the lineup.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're telling me the the idea that I mean,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know for how many weeks, probably, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: since the idea of a piggyback even started way back
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: when everybody clamoring for we have so many arms in
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: the minor leagues, trader Ryan Sloan for a big all
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: star bat, and then you make it a big addition
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: to that line that kind of that kind of thing
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: is is not realistic? Yeah?
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: No, that's that's always my answer to to you know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: cause I get the same questions and we see the
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: same comments on our show. That's always my my counter is, like, Okay,
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: who who's who's the all star level bat with you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: maybe potentially a couple of years of club control, Who
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: is actually worth trading, you know, maybe the best pitching
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: prospect in all of baseball for or trading you know,
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: one of your arms out of your rotation for you know.
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: So yeah, I just just the way that the league
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: has fallen this year and who appears to be selling.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: I just I don't really I don't really see a way.
• 52:22
  Speaker 9: For them to make a high impact edition in the
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: lineup at the moment.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Because it's what you just said, Ty, is the element
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: of of who's actually selling, because when a below five
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: hundred team can be holding a playoff spot right around
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the trade deadline, at that point, everybody looks at it,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and almost everybody, I mean unless you're the Royals or
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the Angels are looking in it saying yeah we can.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Blue Jays last place in the AL East,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: but they're only seven games under five hundred. They're realistically
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: in it right now for a playoff berth. So the
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: question of who's actually selling, especially in the American League
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: is a really important one. Todd dan Gonzalez is with us.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: He hosts Locked on Mariners. You know, follow him on
• 53:01
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• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the law Locked on Mariner's YouTube. Tie does great shows there. Ty,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Let's let's kind of go back to where the team
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: sits and what they actually have tangibly right now, Cal's weekend,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and for Cal Rawley, obviously we all know this has
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: been a very, very tough year for him. But you
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: look on Friday and it's over three for a walk.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: You look on Saturday, it's over three. You look on Sunday,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: it's oh for four. The question is what is the
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: confidence level for you that he can find his game
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: again before it's too late.
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: It's hard to see it at this point, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: this year, I think we're deep enough into the season
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: now where I think it's fair to say that this
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: might be one of the greater hangover seasons and the
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: history of Major League Baseball. I mean, his wrc plus
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: has fallen from one sixty one last year to sixty
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: eight this year. Like he's producing at levels that we
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: are not producing, rather at levels that we haven't seen
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: from him since his rookie year when he got sent down.
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: It's it's kind of it's kind of like how we
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: talk about, you know, just how stunning some of the
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: you know, platoon bats they brought in have been, like
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: where like they've just completely fallen off the cliff, like
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: it's not that they've just regressed. It's like you've gotten
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: the zero percentile outcome out of them, like you know,
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: the A. J. Pollitts and the Donovan Solanos and guys
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: like that, Like we've gotten you know, we all expected
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: regression from cal Rawley this year. We didn't expect the
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: zero percentile outcome from cal Rawley. And that's essentially what
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: we're seeing. And you know, obviously he's dealt with the
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: oblique injury and you know, we saw how that kind
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: of just derailed Luke Rayley season last year and you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 9: who knows if you know, Calus kind of still dealing
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: with that. And you know, obviously Cal's is the type
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: of player that does play through things. So and obviously
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: I don't want to expec lay too much on that front,
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: but like, there are reasons here to understand the struggles.
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: But yeah, it's it's becoming harder and harder to see
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: the light at the end of the tunnel here, unfortunately.
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: And I kind of view, you know, anything that that
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: cal gives you the rest of the way as a bonus,
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: not something to count on.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: But obviously, you know, this is a guy.
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: That if he does figure it out. You know, even
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: just for a month, that could be the difference between
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: missing the playoffs and potentially winning the World Series. That's
• 55:34
  Speaker 9: how big of an impact that he could potentially have here.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with cal right, is that's the
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: difference between the Mariners going on a run and comfortably
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: winning the West right now because the Rangers are not
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: separating themselves, and him having a big August or a
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: big September can allow the Mariners to comfortably win the division,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: get them a decent playoff seed, and suddenly we're talking
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: about a run and you lean on the pitching and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you know, we're right back when we were last year.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm with you, it's just you. We're not seeing
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: any glimpse that he is even close to the same person.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Let's go from Ty, Let's go from one former superstar
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: to one. You know what, I think that's the question.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez, he's back from injury, went one for eight
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: in the two games Saturday Sunday. The hope that he
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: is he that he's going to return to the old Julio.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: But Ty, I think that's that's the kind of the
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: question that I'm leading myself into right now for you
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: is what is Julio I mean two point four war
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: seven thirty seven ops, fourteen homers in eight eighty nine games.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, is Julio Rodriguez you know, going to eventually
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: creep back to that star territory um now in the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: fifth season. Is Julio Rodriguez just kind of the good
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to sometimes great player?
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: It's the question that we are It's the conversation that
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: we have basically every single year now at this point
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: with Julio basically at the same time. I you know,
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: I can't tell you how many times I've answered this conversation.
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: You know, this question about Julio is like what is
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: he really? Is he actually a superstar? Is he actually
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: the face of the franchise? Like is he actually producing
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: at that level?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: Can he produce at that level? Can he get to
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: be in you know, an MVP caliber type of player?
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: And you know, I think this year the difference has
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: been you know, like this year we finally saw a
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: much better and a much more consistent offensive first half
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: from Julio. Unfortunately, that coincided with him significantly regressing on
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: the defensive end. And now, you know, before his concussion,
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: the defense started to kind of return back to form
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: and he was starting to cover more ground. And I
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: do kind of wonder if maybe he was dealing with
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: something early on in the season and that was leading
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: to some of the issues defensively.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Or what have you.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: You know, I think Julio, we know that he's a
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: second half player. I think that is still very possible
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: that he could just explode. Look, we know what the
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: potential is here because we've seen it multiple times. We
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: saw him take over a playoff game, you know, a
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: couple of playoff games last year. You know, we saw
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: what he did in August, you know, a couple of
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: years back. You know, we've seen the hot where he's
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: the best player on the planet. Like, we know that
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: that's the potential. It's just the consistency is unfortunately not there.
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: So I would still to me, I would still classify
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: Julio as a superstar, and also for for reasons outside
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: of just kind of what he does on the field, right,
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: And I think that that does kind of like factor
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: into the conversation of just like what a superstar is.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: But you know, you do need more consistency from him,
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: especially at a time where you know, the guy who
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: was your your bona fide superstar last year, Cal Rawley,
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: has completely fallen off a cliff.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: Like you need Julio to pick up that.
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: Slack and and hopefully that's something that you can do
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: here over the next couple of months. And you know, I,
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: you know, I'm willing to give him some some grace
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: obviously right now as he's returning from my percussion. Concussions
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: are very very serious injuries, especially in baseball, to recover from.
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: So you know, I hope fans are at least you know,
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: understanding of that. But yeah, eventually, like we're gonna need
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: to see more consistency, especially at the play from Julio,
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: and we're gonna need to see him be that guy.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: You know, I've said this so many times that like
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: even though that even last year when Cal was doing
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: what he was doing, Julio is still the most important
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: guy on this roster.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, right, if Cal is not going
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: to be your superstar, you need Julio to step up
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: and be that. And I that conversation would have been
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: so easy had you won Game seven in Toronto, because
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: he was obviously, I mean then suddenly not only is
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: he playing in the World Series, but he's the Game
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: seven hero, and you know, the conversation shifts because the
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Mariners are out of it, and then now this season
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: has gone the way it has for him, So you
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: know that that's just the reality of it. Speaking of
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the reality of and Ti Daan Gonzalez is with us.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: He's the host of the Mariners Locked On, Locked On Mariners.
• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: at tie Dane Gonzales Tie. The reality of the situation
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: is that this defense, I think I messaged you when
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: we were talking about, you know, doing this interview here today,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: it's sort of a laugh so you don't have to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: cry situation. I mean it's rough, and I'm wondering, like
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you know, realistically, we can realistically see cal turn it around.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: We can realistically see the Mariners making an addition that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: makes them a dangerous contender in the playoffs. I'm not
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: sure it's realistically even possible for this defense to improve
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to the point improve the point of not only not
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: being a negative, just just just be a positive. And
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: in some way it just seems like it's a negative
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: around the board that could realistically keep this team from
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: doing anything.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: It's it's not a fun watch, what a series.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm being so negative right now, but I'm just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: trying to have hope and I keep getting roadblocks.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: I totally no, I'm totally with you. It's yeah, this team's,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: this seem's lack of just pure fundamentals has been maybe
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: the most frustrating part of the season outside of like
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: what we've seen from cal or lack thereof. And yeah,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: to your point, like that's not something that's going to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: get better, and frankly, it might even get worse here
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 9: over you know, the coming weeks, because like, look, you know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: Cole Jefferson has been fantastic defensively.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: For the most part.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 9: He's definitely been far better than than JP Crawford there.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 9: But he's really going through it offensively right now, especially
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: over the last six weeks. And I think at a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 9: certain point, especially because you've made such a heavy investment
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 9: in this guy, you know, you have to have the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: conversation about sending him down and letting him figure things
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 9: out in a less pressurized environment, even though that your
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: team would technically get worse because you're you know, likely
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: moving JP Crawford back to shortstop and then when Brendan
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: Donovan gets back, I guess moving him to to you know,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 9: back to third where before he got hurt.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: He was not particularly good over there either. So yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: it's possible the.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 9: Defense gets even worse here over the coming weeks. And
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: you know that that's just kind of the give and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 9: take of this roster.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Like even you know, back when.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: We were previewing this season and back when we were
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: talking about this team as a World Series contender, you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: the defense was was a major issue that that stuck out.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: But you know, they weren't a good defensive team last
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: year and they.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Were eight outs away from the World Series.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: The thing though, was that, you know, last year, you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: were able to counteract that by you know putting together
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: you know, really you know, a competent offense in an
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: offense that was dominant at times, especially over that that
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: late stretch from you know in September, and you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: the pitching staff obviously this year, you know, you're not
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  Speaker 9: really getting the offense, so you're not able to just
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  Speaker 9: kind of mask those deficiencies that you have, and so
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  Speaker 9: it's putting those issues under more of a spotlight this year.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, frankly it's it's leading to losses. And
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  Speaker 9: it's not just the defense, by the way, when I
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  Speaker 9: talk about fundamentals, it's base running errors. It's very simple
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  Speaker 9: mistakes that this team makes on a constant basis, and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: it goes from you know, frankly, your star players all
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  Speaker 9: the way down to you know, the the fringe minor
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  Speaker 9: leaguers that have filtered in and out of this club.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last thing here for you tied Dan Gonzalez with
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  Speaker 2: us here Jackson felt in for Greg Bell Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: us a little bit on Flamine Sealston. It brought promoted
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: to double A Arkansas. Is this kid someone to watch
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: when it comes to possible trades for that bullpen arm
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: you talked about, or is he a legitimate part of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the Mariner's future after considering what we've seen now as
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  Speaker 2: well with cold Emerson's emergence at shortstop.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, my guess is that of the best prospects the
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  Speaker 9: Mariners have, he would be at the top of the
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  Speaker 9: list of the guys that are most likely to be traded.
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  Speaker 9: It's just again like for who, right, That's that's the question,
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  Speaker 9: because it is hard to see a future, at least
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: an immediate future for Selzen. And this is coming from
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  Speaker 9: you know, people that I've talked to that are smarter
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  Speaker 9: than I, particularly in the you know, the prospect circuit,
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  Speaker 9: you know, because there are some questions about if he
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  Speaker 9: can stick up the middle and if he can even
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: stay on the dirt. Frankly, there is some thoughts that
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  Speaker 9: he could wind up in a corner outfield spot eventually,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: which could actually you know, lead to a more clear
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  Speaker 9: path for.
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  Speaker 5: Him to playing time in Seattle.
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  Speaker 9: It's just obviously like what Cole Young's doing right now,
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  Speaker 9: he likes he looks like your second basement in basement
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: of the future. And cold Emerson, well, obviously there's been
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: struggles this year. Cole Emerson's going to be your shot,
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  Speaker 9: your shortstop in twenty twenty seven, and and you know,
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  Speaker 9: hopefully there are no issues that that put his ability
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  Speaker 9: to do that beyond twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Seven, you know, in questions.
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  Speaker 9: So, yeah, Sulston's kind of a just a tough fit
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  Speaker 9: right now, just to see, like, you know, in a
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  Speaker 9: year or two times.
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  Speaker 5: That's not to say that like they couldn't make.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: It work eventually, but it's it's been real nice to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: see what he's done this year, you know, because like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: he had really struggled to stay on the field for
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: his first couple of.
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  Speaker 5: Years in the organization.
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  Speaker 9: He's finally stayed healthy this year and you know, in
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: hi A, he finally just started crushing the ball. I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: think he had a twenty five game his streak or
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: something like that that he was on for a while there.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: You know, ends up slashing three, fourteen, four, nine, five,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: thirty four and high a one forty one WRC plus.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: Like he very much earned this promotion to out of LA.
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  Speaker 9: It'll be interesting to see how he, you know, how
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: he adjusts.
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  Speaker 5: To that league.
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  Speaker 9: It's been a mixed bag with with some Mariners hitting
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: prospects over the years going to Arkansas, going to Dickie
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  Speaker 9: Stevens Park, where for you know, a couple of guys
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  Speaker 9: that's been you know, it's taken a little bit of
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  Speaker 9: a time for for them to get into the swing
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: of things there. Others have just hit the ground running,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: like Michael o' royal last year. So we'll see what
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  Speaker 9: the case is for Saliston.
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  Speaker 5: But he is a you know, a.
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  Speaker 9: Fascinating prospect who you know, really hit both sides.
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  Speaker 5: Of play.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, you know, and you know, at one point was
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  Speaker 9: considered to be, you know, one of the better international
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 9: prospects out there. Certainly a lot of upside there. Just yeah, again,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: very curious to see what his future ultimately would look
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: like in Seattle. And I do you know think that,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: like the mayors did trade from their top ten prospects
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  Speaker 9: group this summer, that he's probably at or near the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: top of the list, probably along with you know, Las
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: World Montes, maybe Johnny Farnlo, guys like that.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Ty, you posted about it this morning. I posted about
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: it this morning. Have you bought your Avengers Doomsday tickets yet?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: So I gotta get with my buddy on that. Actually,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: we gotta we gotta get on that.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Suit some done with you.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: I'm hopping on a call with my buddy to get
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: that done. But yeah, that trailer trailer was U was
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to it.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I got my ticket, so I'll let you go by
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  Speaker 2: years and then hop on that call with your buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the visit, my friend.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for having me appreciate it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Tie Dane Gonzalez. You can follow on social at ty
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  Speaker 2: Softy Maller back by the way from his trip to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I think he went to about four different locations in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: his Northwest staycation. He went over to montanaa. We saw
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: some young Clydesdale's his wife. That's amazing vacationing on the coast.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many different places of vacation over
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. The Softy's back will be
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: with Hugh Millin and myself at three o'clock later today.
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  Speaker 3: Jaxon putting in those extra miles today.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big day post World Cup for sure, Jess,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: And I know you're double dipping as well. You got Mariners.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: You're gonna heading out to teamo wol Park a.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Little later on be bothering those guys for the.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: First of the three games series, Marriers hosting the Reds.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some texts here, Jess, what
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: do you guts on the Tacoma Dodge text line today?
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  Speaker 4: Well, of the major subjects we covered was World Cup, obviously,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: but we also talked about the Mariners, and we're gonna
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: start with that this coming in from the two five
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: to three. I'm so tired of every season hearing we
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: need to get a bat. That's a huge load of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: bea and the Ems have bats. They just need those
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: bats to do what they're supposed to do. They have
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Julio cal Naylor, Randy Young, Cole Jung has been using
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: his bat.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cole Young is probably your best player right now
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: across the board.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: We've been saying that for a couple of weeks now, Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: So, but I mean the reality is like, no, the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Marriors should not need a bat, all things being equal
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: and all things being logical. But the problem is is
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: that Cal isn't hitting. Julio isn't I mean he was
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: obviously now back from his concussion, but one for eight
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: on Saturday and Sunday. The Marritors need a bat because
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: of the players not performing to their level. So regardless
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: of they shouldn't need a bat, regardless of shouldn't, they
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: do need it if they want to go on a run.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But as Tidian Gonzalez said, there's just not a big
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: bat available to trade a Ryan Sloan for. That just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't meant And I think that was actually a
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: really good conversation that you have with ty Dan Gonzalez,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: because you do have to look at reality. Okay, yes,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: you want them to make a move, and let's you know, say,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I know that this two five to three is not
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: very happy hearing that, But.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: What can you do?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: And that That's what Justin and Jerry always have to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: toy with when it comes around this time of year
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: as we lead up to the trade deadline.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Right because if you if you have to listen, if
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: there is the best player on the worst team, is that,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: if that's still a platoon player, then what are we doing?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: You know, if that guy's not available, then you obviously
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: make that move. But if that guy doesn't exist to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: actually put this team into a decent offensive place, then
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: exactly what are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: What else we got?
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  Speaker 3: I'm from the four two five.
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  Speaker 4: This was also a part of the conversation that we've
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: been having on their defense, and the four to two
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: five says MD improves by putting Julio in right field
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: and making Victor the everyday center fielder like he basically
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: played his whole life, unlike putting Donovan at second young
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: hat shortstop and moving Emerson down until the September call ups.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not with that.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not with the down move.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you just gotta because then then you're encroaching
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: into the territory that we've seen so many Mariners go
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: in before where hey, you bring a guy up and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: it looks like, all right, he's here for good, this
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: is his big break, and then you just obliterate his
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: confidence by sending him back down. You gotta let the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: kid work through his problems. You gotta give him time
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: and eventually he'll figure it out. But I mean Cole Young, right,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Cole Young figured it out. It took twenty twenty six
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: to figure it out, but he had time to work
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: through that. You gotta give Colt Emerson the same track
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: that you did Cole Young, because clearly it can pay off.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, I just like, I mean, Kelnick
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: is the first one that comes to mind. But if
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: we want to go in the way back machine, you
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: can go back to Dustin.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Ackley, actly Zanino. I mean, the list goes on. The
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: idea was brought up way too early, and then he
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: had that game of back and forth and it killed
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: his confidence. So I just don't want that to happen
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: again to a guy like cold Emerson, that we have
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: such high hopes.
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  Speaker 4: I also don't think it's necessary right now, Like I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: just really don't. Here we go two, five, three, those
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: are when now moves we can't rely on our shortstop
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: when now moves, or that we can't rely on our
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: shortstop and third baseman hitting in the hundred's batting average. Sorry,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: I sometimes the voice to text. I should have read
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: that beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's all good.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: But yeah, if you can't rely on your infielders to rake,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: then it becomes a problem.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I think. Is what that for?
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  Speaker 5: Two?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in general like that, that's kind of goes
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: back to that's why we need to add some mean
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: you're not going to I think move away from the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Emerson Young You're obviously not moving away from nailor JP
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Crawford's now at third, and I think JP Crawford at
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: third is worth keeping his bat in the lineup. And
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: unless you were able to if if a Heinio Sorez
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: deal was on the table this year, if that was
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: available for this year like it was last year, that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: seems to be a pretty clear Okay, there you go.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: But if if ty Dane Gonzalez is right that a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Swreres type move isn't there and isn't available, then yet,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the question for for Justin and Jerry is what's the
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: best move you can make if that's a bullpen arm
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: and that means giving up a feline Selliston that he
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: talked about. Then Okay, clearly something needs to improve. So
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: this team can get away from fifty to fifty where
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: they're at right now and cut what a concept? Fifty
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: four percent sure would be nice right now if the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Maritors were winning fifty four percent of their games?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: What's next? Y, yes, Stephen Stevens, let's go into soccer
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: because we have a Sounders question from the two five
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: three Jackson. Are Sounder's going to make a move during
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: the transfer window and what are they going to do
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: about offense?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Right now? Morris and Perreira are major liabilities.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Same, I means kind of the same thing as the Mariners,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Like they have money. Their general manager, Craig Wibele has
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: been adding soccer is an MLS specifically is a little
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: bit crazy. We have all these different terms for money.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: It isn't just in one big pot like in a
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: salary cap. There's what's called general allocation money and targeted
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: allocation money GAM and TAM and DP spending. It's absolutely
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: that's designated players spending. Folks don't get that in your
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: head that it's anything other than that. When I say
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: DP spending, but listen, they have money to spend, gam
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: money to spend. They need offense. Would love to see
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Craig Wible go out and make a maybe not massive move,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: but go out and bring in it, you know, for
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: what Ty said, right, platoon player, The Sounders need a
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: platoon forward because they need somebody to come in and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: inject some offensive life into this team after I mean,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I refuse to mention what happened last week. It was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: maybe the worst worst defeat I've ever seen from the Sounders.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: And now they have games at Austin on Wednesday at
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: five point thirty and then at Philadelphia at four thirty
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: on Saturdays. So hopefully we get more offense than against Portland.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That the game of which we do not speak. We'll
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: just go with that. Yeah, Yeah, okay, one more, yes,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: one more? Well, I wanted to get this one in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: from the four two five. You did a fantastic job
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: covering the World Cup. You guys did a fantastic job
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: covering the World Cup.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: And thank you for doing it.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: And if people don't know how hard our crew, we
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: should include Travis in this as he ran. Travis Muger
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: ran the majority of what was going on in the studio,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: and we had our host Jackson and Anders, and then our
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: analysts Danny and Brad. That was a lot and I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: feel like you guys met it with Bill Force and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: we are proud of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I appreciate that four two five.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks to Brad Evans. Danny Jackson joined us earlier in
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: the show. Check out the podcast in case you missed it.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Also Pete Fewing, Steve Zachawani you mentioned, and and I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: hosted the games. Jeff White and Terry Ryan are engineer's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: amazing job by them. I know we always joke about Terry,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: but man, the work that Terry Ryan put in over
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: this last two months has been amazing. And then Travis Muger.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Travis was epic on all levels, and Mike Shacker from
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: down in Portland who helped that as well. The entire
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: World Cup team we had over these last six weeks
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: was brilliant. So thank you so much.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'd loved listening to it.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: It was one of those things and as someone.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Who is you know, I would be transparent about a
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: casual soccer fan, but I did enjoy the World Cup
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  Speaker 4: and I would.
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  Speaker 3: Go oh, my guys are on, My guys are on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope everybody enjoyed. And now we'll see what
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: that does for soccer moving forward for sure over the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: next few months here in MLS action. All right, we'll
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: get a break here, we'll wrap up the show. We
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: got Ian Fornest coming in for cross talk, Jackson Feltz
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: in for Greg Bell more coming up Sports Radio at
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM, Jackson Felts in for Greg
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  Speaker 2: Bell ten to twelve. Thanks for joining us here today
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  Speaker 2: nine three point three kjr FM, leading into the I
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• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: right now for a little cross talking and how you doing,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Buddy good? How are you good? I'm good. It's overretty tired.
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  Speaker 1: Are you done?
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  Speaker 2: We're very tired. Yeah, the last like I'll be able
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  Speaker 2: to tell everybody about it about you know, months from now,
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  Speaker 2: after it's all calmed down and cool down. But like
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  Speaker 2: the last five days of my life has been as
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  Speaker 2: crazy as I think any period ever leading into the
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  Speaker 2: final and everything else going on. I'm ready for because
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  Speaker 2: you had a game on that's right, Well, was that
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  Speaker 2: really a game. No, I've refused to acknowledge that it
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  Speaker 2: even exists. I mean, that's that's the worst sounder game
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I think it's the worst scheduling I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen. To be honest with you, really on a
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  Speaker 2: Thursday game, Well it was no lead up.
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  Speaker 10: You you made a point. I don't want to interrupt you.
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  Speaker 10: You made a great point earlier. I thought the MLS
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  Speaker 10: did itself a massive disservice by if there was any
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  Speaker 10: kind of MLS promotion and I watched I mean, hell,
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  Speaker 10: you know, because I was texting you and Anders the
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  Speaker 10: whole time. I watched a lot of soccer with the
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  Speaker 10: last month and a half. I can't remember one time
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  Speaker 10: going on now. Maybe maybe Fox and FIFA jarge charge
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  Speaker 10: him so much. I don't know. But you've got to
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  Speaker 10: find a way if you're they're moronic commissioner, who's right
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  Speaker 10: up there with Manford, You've got to find a way
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  Speaker 10: to ride that wave. And I mean, god, how easy
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  Speaker 10: would have been to do like a big old hype
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  Speaker 10: promotional video for the MLS show Messy Well they places
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: for them, they put that out there, But they put
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: that out there at the end last Thursday it's the
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  Speaker 10: excitement of the tournament was early, it wasn't late. And
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  Speaker 10: and then I don't know what our team does our
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  Speaker 10: team ever market or advertise themselves. Yeah, I mean besides
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  Speaker 10: all due respect your show, like your show on Tuesdays.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean they do, and I think you know
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  Speaker 2: they do than they do. Yeah, well, the Maryors do
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: more than they do, and I and the Marriors don't
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  Speaker 2: have to. The Seahawks do more than they do, and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: they don't have to. Like the Sounders missed it, I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: on that game. Honestly, I'm in sport now. I was
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: all off a little bit last week. That game last
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Thursday snuck up on me. That should never happen, like
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  Speaker 2: Sounders missed. MLS missed golden opportunities because we just had
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  Speaker 2: a phenomenal How many weeks was it, Jackson was six
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: way six weeks phenomenal, six weeks of socd Well, how
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: do you not like if it's not ticket, if it's
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Fox National as a league, how do you not invest
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: money in running advertisements during game saying find your local team?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: MLS soccer dot com. You know, you know, hey, this
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: this doesn't end, but you do that. I think the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: official date of this their whole like the whole campaign.
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  Speaker 2: You'll love this. The tagline of the campaign is thanks World,
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  Speaker 2: will take it from here, and you have David Beckham
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the commercial say thanks world, will
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  Speaker 2: take it from here and Messi's on there. But again
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  Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it only comes at
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  Speaker 2: the very very end, Like you needed the consistency through
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: the whole tournament.
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  Speaker 10: And we never got that the messaging too. I saw
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: stat today that I think MLS was like what fifth
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: or sixth most in terms of minutes played by their
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  Speaker 10: players in the World Cup, ahead of Argentina's professional league,
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  Speaker 10: Like a bunch of leagues that are that had teams
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  Speaker 10: in the finals. Now we all know why because a
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 10: lot of guys playing Premier League and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 10: But but nevertheless, yeah, like market that, like market that,
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  Speaker 10: Like I just thought they just missed, Like because everyone's
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 10: because this is everyone in the country's doing the same
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  Speaker 10: show and talk about the same stuff. We don't one
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: of the after shocks. You know what, how can soccer
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  Speaker 10: build on it? Blah blah blah, all those things. Well,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 10: the opportunity was there and you.
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  Speaker 2: Miss, Yeah, you just miss. And I think you will
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  Speaker 2: see like a two thousand and three thousand jump in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: places like Columbus and Orlando and cities. Cities will see
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: minor jumps. I think for the Sounders, you used to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: have the crowd of forty thousand people every game and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: it was just consistent. Forty k COVID brings that down
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: to about thirty and now you're kind of right around
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: thirty for most games. The idea was, all right, last
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: time the World Cup was in the United States, it
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: spawned this entire league. Can it get us back to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: forty and then we get good attendance for that Portland game,
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  Speaker 2: really good attendance, and it was loud, it was energetic,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of energy. Sure, but then you
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: go out and five to one does not inspire people
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  Speaker 2: to go do season tickets. Why was frustrated?
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  Speaker 10: Why would you even I think more importantly, like optionally
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  Speaker 10: lost there. Why would you even go back? Yeah, like
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  Speaker 10: if you went to that game and now here's the problem.
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  Speaker 10: I think this is an issue too. This is I've
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: been I've been I've hated this about the Sounders since
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 10: day one. They spent they did the Portland Trailblazers playing
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 10: in the old Memorial Coliseum mistake. They basically never had
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 10: tickets for anybody beside season ticket holders early years of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: the franchise. Sound remember the Sounders did that. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 10: people like our family, which was a soccer family. Kids
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  Speaker 10: were playing like high level soccer and traveling and all
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  Speaker 10: that stuff. We never went to games. Well, you lost
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  Speaker 10: a whole generation of fans, and that was a massive mistake.
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  Speaker 10: Adrian doesn't make a lot of mistakes. That was a
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  Speaker 10: big mistake. I remember having that conversation with on the air.
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  Speaker 10: So even though you're thirty or forty thousand that went
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: to the Thursday game, the same people, it's not nobody knew.
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  Speaker 10: It's it's nobody knew, like that's it. The means it
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  Speaker 10: might be a few, but honestly, it's really the same
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  Speaker 10: old crowd. You can't do that. You've got to expand
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  Speaker 10: your your crowd. But I just I, you know, we
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  Speaker 10: had such a great event. By the way, you guys
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  Speaker 10: did a hell of a job you and the crew,
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  Speaker 10: and Andrews did a hell of a job, Travis producing it.
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  Speaker 10: You guys did a great job. It's such a weird
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: tournament in the sense that it just it's so good.
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  Speaker 10: It's great early and then it just kind of peters
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  Speaker 10: out a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bit together. The four favorites going into the whole
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: thing were the final four.
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  Speaker 10: And the blast game was such a dud, like just
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 10: an absolute snooze, wasn't the but Anders team embarrassed itself.
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  Speaker 10: I'm gonna blast them today, will be fun.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not here.
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  Speaker 3: We're you ever gonna get a red card? At least
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: you did it with that kind of fashion.
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  Speaker 10: Well what do you mean he got he got a
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  Speaker 10: red card because of the first terrible Well, yeah that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 10: was the first yellow.
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  Speaker 2: In the second yellow, no, I mean the second one
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: would have been would have been just.
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  Speaker 10: Bitched it the official because Argentina was a bunch of whining,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: sniveling brats, is what happened.
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  Speaker 2: And they and then he got They got what they deserved.
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  Speaker 2: It pisses me off. It piss me off because I
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: had money off. I see, I see what else? A
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: good number in front of a big plush. We're gonna
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: do a.
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  Speaker 10: Little thing all week with Corbyn Smith leading up to
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  Speaker 10: training camp which starts on Saturday. Uh seahawk wise one
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 10: o'clock mullywop minus one today and then we'll get in
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: a little bit of the World Cup some other stuff.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if I'll make it the dumb I'm
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: waiting for some stats, some actual numbers. I've got some
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: guy working on it for me. The dumbest thing you're
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: gonna hear after the World Cup is George Kittle and others.
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  Speaker 2: All the field should be grass. Cool.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's a that's a smart move because all
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 10: those pristine grass fields that only had games on them,
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  Speaker 10: not even training sessions.
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  Speaker 2: That would work in the NFL. Nope. Places in Seattle
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  Speaker 2: where it rains all the time. You have to read
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: you the grass over and over and over. After football
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: and MLS changing their calendar, Yeah, wouldn't work, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: The MLS is that next year, right, Yeah, twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight is the first? When is a twenty seven season?
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  Speaker 6: Sorry?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, we we do. We do a five month season
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  Speaker 2: starting in February and then and then it resets after that.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird. Yeah, really weird. In Fornest twelve to
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  Speaker 2: three coming up, Thanks so much, Jackson feltz In for
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