Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Garrett Olin, CIO of Shasta Community Health Center
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- 0:28Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Health Care
- 0:30podcast recorded live at the 9th annual health
- 0:32IT Digital Health and RCM conference. I'm joined
- 0:35today by Garrett Olin, CIO at Shasta Community
- 0:38Health Center. Garrett, to get us started, can
- 0:40you please share a little bit about yourself,
- 0:42your background, and your role at your organization?
- 0:44Oh, sure. Yeah. As you said, I'm with,
- 0:47Shasta Community Health Center, in Redding, California. It's
- 0:50in Northern California.
- 0:52My background, I've been a chief information officer
- 0:55for 30 years or so. Also oversee the
- 0:59quality and informatics
- 1:01for the organization.
- 1:02We're a federally qualified health center
- 1:05and outpatient clinics.
- 1:07We have 8 throughout Shasta County.
- 1:10We do primary care, dental, behavioral health,
- 1:13podiatry,
- 1:14chiropractic,
- 1:15optometry,
- 1:17a little bit of everything.
- 1:19Okay.
- 1:20So AI adoption is exploding in health care.
- 1:22In your view, what's the most significant or
- 1:24promising application of this technology right now, and
- 1:27how is this informing your organization's, innovation strategy?
- 1:32So it is exploding.
- 1:35The most significant or promising,
- 1:38you know, some of the the vendors here
- 1:40being able
- 1:41to use AI in imaging,
- 1:44detecting, you know, cancer or tumors or
- 1:48brain bleeds and and what have you. I
- 1:50think that's that's
- 1:52pretty, pretty impressive
- 1:55for ourselves. You know, we're looking at it
- 1:57and other ways that we can being outpatient
- 2:00clinics,
- 2:01how we can
- 2:02make our providers more efficient, you know, reduce
- 2:05the pajama time, things like that.
- 2:08Being able to increase patient access, patient engagements,
- 2:13and just, you know, trying to
- 2:15to get better patient outcomes overall.
- 2:18So on a daily basis, health care leaders
- 2:20like yourself are managing,
- 2:22greater volumes of data and more device ac
- 2:24across a growing number of care settings and
- 2:26populations.
- 2:28In this complex environment, what clinical data integration
- 2:30tools or practices are you seeing drive improvements
- 2:33in patient outcomes and operations?
- 2:34And do you have an example or 2
- 2:36you can share?
- 2:37Yeah. I don't have a data integration tools
- 2:40per se, but a practice you know, we're
- 2:42looking at health equity. You know, we serve
- 2:44an underserved population,
- 2:45and health equity is always on our mind.
- 2:48And
- 2:49one of the things that we have tried
- 2:51and, and it's showing great improvement for patient
- 2:54outcomes, as far as getting screening, cancer screenings,
- 2:57things like that,
- 2:59instead of using,
- 3:01just interpretation
- 3:02services
- 3:03is actually hiring native language speakers,
- 3:07and doing outreach to get them into the
- 3:09clinic, scheduling appointments, getting their screenings done, things
- 3:13like that.
- 3:14We've actually increased our scores from, you know,
- 3:17patients being maybe
- 3:1955, 60% compliant into the high seventies.
- 3:23So coming from, an FQHC
- 3:26with an underserved population,
- 3:28you know, how would you say
- 3:31especially in your role, like, how does your
- 3:33outlook
- 3:34on, you know, new upcoming technologies differ from
- 3:37that of maybe somebody from a larger health
- 3:39system? Like, what additional challenges or I mean,
- 3:42are there things you see that maybe excite
- 3:44you in somebody, like, coming from an organization
- 3:47like yours that might not be as exciting
- 3:49or might be, you know what I mean,
- 3:50different to someone from one of those bigger
- 3:52organizations?
- 3:53Yeah. Obviously, you know, the the bigger organizations
- 3:56for for us, we're about a $75,000,000,
- 3:59you know, budget organization,
- 4:01not a lot of resources,
- 4:03whether it's human or cap or money. Right?
- 4:05Financial.
- 4:07But
- 4:08what excites me is
- 4:09with some of these technologies,
- 4:12I can see how we can improve patient
- 4:15outcomes. Mhmm. Mhmm.
- 4:17One of the things that we're looking at,
- 4:19we just aren't quite there yet, is
- 4:22using AI. You know, we get a new
- 4:24patient in.
- 4:26We want their health records Mhmm. Wherever they
- 4:28come from. And it might be a 500
- 4:29page PDF. Right. Right. Right. Right. The clinician
- 4:32is not going to take the time to
- 4:34look through that document.
- 4:35But using AI,
- 4:38we can summarize what's in there Right. And
- 4:40give the clinician, put that into the EHR
- 4:43as a note Mhmm. Of here's their medical
- 4:45history
- 4:46that maybe has their late their their
- 4:48most recent
- 4:49labs,
- 4:50diagnostics, etcetera. Mhmm. And it gives them a
- 4:53quick overview that they can look at Mhmm.
- 4:56Before they see the patient. Mhmm. And instead
- 4:59of scheduling that 1 hour appointment,
- 5:01maybe we can get it done in 30
- 5:03minutes
- 5:03Right. Which will help patient access. Right? Because
- 5:06now we can see more patients if that's
- 5:08the case. Right. And, hopefully,
- 5:11that can,
- 5:13again, help in patient outcomes in the long
- 5:15term.
- 5:17Can you talk a little bit more about
- 5:18how,
- 5:19technology
- 5:20and AI or other tools might, you know,
- 5:23help that underserved community, like, with the social
- 5:25determinants of health and kind of, you know,
- 5:27help these underserved communities in ways that it
- 5:29might not in, like, a traditional setting?
- 5:32Yeah. Well, we also have a street medicine
- 5:33program. So,
- 5:35you know, talking about interpretation services and things
- 5:38like that, you know, we have our clinicians
- 5:40go out into the woods to the camps.
- 5:42Right? Mhmm. But we have some patients that
- 5:45are are deaf. Mhmm. But using technology interpretation
- 5:49services with an iPad that has cellular services
- 5:52Right. We can now bring an ASL interpreter
- 5:55Right. With video online to That's awesome. Yeah.
- 5:59That connection with the patient and be able
- 6:02to communicate with them in the field. So
- 6:04That's really cool. That's really cool.
- 6:07So how can health care leaders and organizations
- 6:10better support their IT and clinical teams, you
- 6:13know, as they carry out some of these
- 6:14innovation efforts? And, you know, what are some
- 6:16of the common pitfalls here?
- 6:18So I think the the biggest thing is
- 6:20to manage expectations.
- 6:22Mhmm. Right? Mhmm.
- 6:24The the common pitfall, I think, is scope
- 6:26creep.
- 6:27Right? Because we start with, you know, here's
- 6:30our goal, and
- 6:32as we approach it, they keep moving the
- 6:34goalposts. Mhmm.
- 6:35And managing the expectations,
- 6:38you know, with the clinicians
- 6:39on the the business side of things,
- 6:42understanding that, you know, maybe
- 6:45we we have to do this piecemeal. Right?
- 6:47Phase 1, phase 2, etcetera.
- 6:49And it's gonna take some time because
- 6:52there's you always have projects that you're working
- 6:54on, and then there's always something that comes
- 6:56up that is a priority due to some
- 6:59regulation change or what have you. Right.
- 7:02And it may take you away from that
- 7:03project for a little bit, and, and then
- 7:06you have to come back to it again.
- 7:07So just managing those expectations of, you know,
- 7:11are we making progress?
- 7:12And, you know, don't don't move the goalpost.
- 7:15Just, you know, let's let's complete this step
- 7:17and then start the next.
- 7:20So, you know, again, being from an FQHC
- 7:22in your role, do you feel like some
- 7:25of the challenges that go along with that
- 7:26force you to be, you know, maybe more
- 7:28creative and more innovative than, you know, people
- 7:32in your in your similar role, like other
- 7:33larger organizations?
- 7:35Oh, I think so. You know,
- 7:37having having few resources, right, is we have
- 7:40to think
- 7:41of innovative ways,
- 7:43alternate ways to get something done Mhmm. Or
- 7:46negotiate a really good contract. Right. Right. Right.
- 7:49And and we've done that too for for
- 7:51some vendors.
- 7:53You know, we've had some contracts cut
- 7:5667%
- 7:57just so we could just so we could
- 7:59afford to put it in. Right?
- 8:01So we're always, you know, thinking of
- 8:05how can we, you know,
- 8:07we we want the whole pie, but if
- 8:08we can't get the whole pie, how big
- 8:10of a piece can we do Right. With
- 8:12what we have now? Right. And then maybe
- 8:15we have to wait a year and we
- 8:16get the rest of it next year's budget.
- 8:18Right?
- 8:19And like I say, just kinda
- 8:21do what we can Mhmm. And then do
- 8:23the next phase later. So, you know, you
- 8:25said you've been in your role for, what,
- 8:2730 years? Well, I've been a CIO for
- 8:2930 years. Okay. I've been with Shasta Community
- 8:31Health Center for just over a year. Okay.
- 8:34Okay. So in in your years of experience,
- 8:36if you were to talk to, you know,
- 8:38younger leaders in health care or, you know,
- 8:39emerging leaders, you know, what would be your
- 8:41top piece of advice,
- 8:43you know, as they prepare for further advancements
- 8:45in technology
- 8:47and greater demands for care?
- 8:49I think the greatest advice I can give
- 8:51is is never stop learning. Mhmm. Right? You
- 8:53have to be a lifelong learner, be curious,
- 8:56be
- 8:57adaptable
- 8:58because, you know, I I I look at
- 9:01it as,
- 9:02again, right,
- 9:04with the resources that we have Mhmm.
- 9:07I'm always trying to think ahead of what
- 9:09are we gonna do in the future Mhmm.
- 9:11And
- 9:12expect that you're not going to get what
- 9:15you really need. Mhmm. So think of how
- 9:17you can find those alternatives.
- 9:19Right. So I'm
- 9:21always open to talk to vendors. Right? Because
- 9:23I never know who may give me a
- 9:25call or come across my path.
- 9:27And that has actually helped us in in
- 9:29so many different ways. So Mhmm.
- 9:32In
- 9:33my various careers, if you will, because I've
- 9:36been in different industries
- 9:37that that being open to to listen, learn,
- 9:41and and just be prepared that Mhmm. When
- 9:43the time does come, you you can pull
- 9:45the trigger to do that project because you've
- 9:48prepared yourself for that. Mhmm.
- 9:51Well, Garrett, I really appreciate you sharing your
- 9:53expertise,
- 9:54today. Do you have any final thoughts you'd
- 9:56like to leave with our listeners?
- 9:58If you haven't attended, you should come to
- 9:59Becker's conference. It's awesome.
- 10:01All right. Awesome. Well, thank you so much
- 10:03for joining us today on the Becker's healthcare
- 10:04podcast, and you have a lovely rest of
- 10:05your day, sir. Thank you. Thank you.