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- 0:23Speaker 1: Good eating everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports
- 0:26Speaker 1: and say, my name is Scott Morgan Rohner saying mad mon,
- 0:28Speaker 1: great show. We have lined up today and we're talking
- 0:32Speaker 1: about aj Hanch Okay, check makes a houseman, answer man.
- 0:36Speaker 1: This guy played some serious chess today. I know Joe
- 0:40Speaker 1: Ellis was playing a little bit of poker and you know,
- 0:43Speaker 1: you know, but I'll tell you a j Hinch was
- 0:45Speaker 1: playing more than poker. He was playing chess and everything
- 0:48Speaker 1: like that. Let me introduce a crew real quick, can't.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Danley welcome back, Thanks, glad to be here. And jbll
- 0:54Speaker 1: Is back, Welcome back, Joe what's going on? And George
- 0:58Speaker 1: Icorn second of two, Hey, what's going on? Good to
- 1:01Speaker 1: be part of the show. Well, won't take very long
- 1:04Speaker 1: to figure out these topics. Okay, we're gonna talk about
- 1:06Speaker 1: what the Tigers did today, talk a little justin Verlander
- 1:10Speaker 1: as well, talk about Pete Rose and the Raiders were
- 1:13Speaker 1: Devonte Adams because he he's looking to be traded. I'm
- 1:17Speaker 1: going to get the crew an opportunity to find out
- 1:18Speaker 1: exactly where he should go. And then we're going to
- 1:22Speaker 1: talk a little bit of Nascar in the Olympics, a
- 1:24Speaker 1: little bit, so I have a little bit thread out
- 1:25Speaker 1: and everybody has parting shots as well. But that said,
- 1:28Speaker 1: let's get to it, and that will go to mister
- 1:31Speaker 1: detroitter Teorg drake Horn. The Detroit Tigers shot the Houston
- 1:35Speaker 1: Astros with a five to two win Manute may Park
- 1:38Speaker 1: to advance to the American League champion I'd like to
- 1:41Speaker 1: take Championship Seria the American League Division Series. Andy Bonnie's pinchhit,
- 1:46Speaker 1: bases loaded, clearing double off Astros closer Josh had proved
- 1:53Speaker 1: to be the difference maker. This is detroit first trip
- 1:56Speaker 1: to the Alds since twenty fourteen. They'll face Cleveland Guardians
- 2:01Speaker 1: and this ends houston seven year strict of reaching the Alcs.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Only the New York Kkenes generally wish it. They would
- 2:09Speaker 1: have done it a few times. But the Tigers did it,
- 2:11Speaker 1: and aj hint out smarted his little team. You're not
- 2:13Speaker 1: going to start off with George some thoughts.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it was quite amazing and the magical Tigers
- 2:21Speaker 2: month of well now it's three months August, September, October continues.
- 2:26Speaker 2: So they came from behind. They scrap there, their scrappy team,
- 2:31Speaker 2: their their team that you like you alluded to plays
- 2:34Speaker 2: a chess match with their pitching and just timely hitting
- 2:39Speaker 2: from guys nobody's ever heard of. These are youngsters, most
- 2:42Speaker 2: of them. Matt Verling is the only one with some
- 2:45Speaker 2: playoff experience. But yeah, I did not think they would
- 2:48Speaker 2: be able to go there, down there and win the
- 2:51Speaker 2: next two, I mean the first two and close out.
- 2:54Speaker 3: But they did. So.
- 2:57Speaker 2: You just if you're amazed by you look at the
- 2:59Speaker 2: l roster of the Tigers and you.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Say, why are they here? Well, they're here.
- 3:03Speaker 2: They got a good manager, a good coaching staff, and
- 3:07Speaker 2: they're playing some great ball right now.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Joe, listen. It's utterly impressed of what they've done since
- 3:14Speaker 4: August eleventh. You know, they've just played a different type
- 3:18Speaker 4: of baseball. And I believe I've said it here. I
- 3:21Speaker 4: know I've said it a cubfidential. You know, it reminds
- 3:24Speaker 4: me of the mid ninety Yankees, where they built the
- 3:27Speaker 4: team around their farm system. They have a good manager,
- 3:30Speaker 4: and when you do that and you have a good
- 3:33Speaker 4: core young guys, you start winning. You know, the Cubs
- 3:38Speaker 4: they were the same situation. They had two winning years
- 3:40Speaker 4: in a row. They haven't gotten where they want to be,
- 3:42Speaker 4: but the Tigers are, you know, got a little bit
- 3:46Speaker 4: further ahead. There were the playoffs they want. They beat
- 3:49Speaker 4: the Astros, which is phenomenal. It was a down year
- 3:52Speaker 4: for Houston anyway, though. I mean, they had a fight
- 3:54Speaker 4: with everything they had just to make the playoffs after
- 3:56Speaker 4: a horrible start. They were in the same as they've
- 4:00Speaker 4: been previous years. They had a lot of injury issues
- 4:02Speaker 4: this year, but that doesn't take anything away from Detroit.
- 4:06Speaker 4: They played masterfully. Of the two games they're pitching was phenomenal.
- 4:11Speaker 4: School ball is amazing. I'm glad the Yikes don't have
- 4:15Speaker 4: to face them, although I don't understand why we don't
- 4:17Speaker 4: face them since then a lower seed, why they don't
- 4:20Speaker 4: go to New York. I'm glad we don't, although I
- 4:24Speaker 4: would have been able to go to the game on
- 4:25Speaker 4: Wednesday in Detroit, So I am disappointed at the same time.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think, Candy.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Let's face it, in the playoffs you need to be hot,
- 4:37Speaker 5: and Detroit's been. Like JB said, Detroit's been hot since
- 4:41Speaker 5: August whatever, what August eighth, eleventh. I mean, you know,
- 4:47Speaker 5: they started off the year real kind of slow slumpish,
- 4:52Speaker 5: you know, not as good, and they turned the heat on.
- 4:55Speaker 5: And it's about being hot at the right time, and
- 4:59Speaker 5: that's what he's doing right now. They're playing, you know,
- 5:02Speaker 5: and they're playing very loose like they're young something. Most
- 5:05Speaker 5: of them are young. They you know, they haven't necessarily
- 5:08Speaker 5: been there before. They have nothing to lose because most
- 5:11Speaker 5: people wrote them off at the trade deadline, much less,
- 5:17Speaker 5: you know, being here now where they're at, so everything
- 5:23Speaker 5: to gain, nothing to lose.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Well to say, how's money, too candy, because I'm going
- 5:27Speaker 1: to tell you right now after double Day would be
- 5:30Speaker 1: turning over in the grave if you saw the way
- 5:32Speaker 1: the Tigers are playing ball with all these opening openers,
- 5:36Speaker 1: Because while you can't do it through one hundred and
- 5:39Speaker 1: sixty two game season, they certainly found a way with
- 5:41Speaker 1: the quality of pitching that they have to at least
- 5:44Speaker 1: get through a couple of months and I'm sure they'll
- 5:45Speaker 1: figure out the pitching situation later. So kind they're around
- 5:48Speaker 1: the house money, they're playing chess and aj Hinch is
- 5:51Speaker 1: winning the chess game and he ended up doing it
- 5:54Speaker 1: against the Astros. Can you imagine that every Astro fan
- 5:57Speaker 1: feels like the aj Hinch just walked out a minute
- 6:00Speaker 1: made part and how smarter them beat them? Okay, and
- 6:04Speaker 1: guess what the Tigers are going on and the Houston
- 6:08Speaker 1: Astros are staying home. That to me has to be
- 6:11Speaker 1: agonizing for the city of Houston. It really really does.
- 6:15Speaker 1: But it is what it is, all right, Let's stay
- 6:17Speaker 1: on the Houston team just a little bit. Justin Verlander,
- 6:21Speaker 1: who didn't make the wild card roster, you know, will
- 6:25Speaker 1: become a free agent this year. But I guess the
- 6:30Speaker 1: question I should ask for you guys is this, Okay,
- 6:36Speaker 1: what do you think he'll wind up? George, would you
- 6:38Speaker 1: have any idea should he leave the Astros?
- 6:43Speaker 2: Well, the only place that he would end up is
- 6:45Speaker 2: a team that could win at all. I mean, he
- 6:47Speaker 2: probably would want to go to a team that's a contender, obviously,
- 6:51Speaker 2: and those teams may or not be the may or
- 6:55Speaker 2: may not be the ones that are in the playoffs
- 6:57Speaker 2: right now. I don't think the Yankees would take him.
- 7:00Speaker 2: They have such a high payroll already, and I don't
- 7:04Speaker 2: think that Detroit would would be interested. And the reason
- 7:07Speaker 2: I give you on that one is because of the
- 7:10Speaker 2: fact that they're on a pretty austere program right now
- 7:13Speaker 2: with Scott Harris and the owner, Chris Ilicch.
- 7:16Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're they're showing you what they're doing.
- 7:19Speaker 3: They're they're they're winning with young kids.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Although JV coming back would have a very nostalgic turn
- 7:26Speaker 2: and could very well help, I'm not sure they want
- 7:29Speaker 2: to spend the money on a pitcher that's in his forties.
- 7:32Speaker 2: But that being said, there are teams out there. I mean,
- 7:36Speaker 2: look what happened with Baltimore. They got bounced again. You
- 7:38Speaker 2: know they're out already in the first round. I mean Houston,
- 7:42Speaker 2: I I mean, he likes it there, but I don't
- 7:44Speaker 2: know if they're gonna want to bring him back.
- 7:47Speaker 3: You know, he should only have a one year deal.
- 7:50Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's gonna be crazy enough to give
- 7:51Speaker 2: him two years at his age, But I guess you
- 7:54Speaker 2: never know. I hate, I hate to answer around your question,
- 7:58Speaker 2: but quite frankly, I don't know who at this point
- 8:01Speaker 2: would want him.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Let's break down the numbers for Verlander. This year. He
- 8:06Speaker 1: was five. He had a five and six record, He
- 8:08Speaker 1: had seventy four strikeouts, and he also looking at a nine.
- 8:12Speaker 1: He pitched ninety and a third inning five point four
- 8:14Speaker 1: eight or run average at seventeen starts. So obviously, if
- 8:18Speaker 1: they were going to sign Kent and Maaida, give me
- 8:21Speaker 1: a break. You mean to tell me that they wouldn't
- 8:23Speaker 1: even bring Justin Verlander back Kent to Mayata people, Okay,
- 8:27Speaker 1: this guy didn't even make the roster and they had
- 8:30Speaker 1: to bury him in the bullpen just because obviously they
- 8:33Speaker 1: spent money on free agency with him and that wasn't why.
- 8:36Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think he should go back
- 8:38Speaker 1: to Detroit. You don't, Candy, what do you think?
- 8:43Speaker 5: Listen, he's forty one years old. He says he's not ready,
- 8:47Speaker 5: but let's face it, he actually was is a pending
- 8:51Speaker 5: free agent after failing to trigger a conditional twenty twenty
- 8:55Speaker 5: five option in his contract by not reaching one hundred
- 8:58Speaker 5: and forty innings in twenty two twenty four. He earned
- 9:01Speaker 5: eighty six point six million dollars over the past two
- 9:06Speaker 5: seasons via a contract he signed with the New York
- 9:10Speaker 5: Mets prior to the twenty twenty three campaign. So is
- 9:14Speaker 5: he willing to take a pay cut because I don't
- 9:16Speaker 5: know anybody that's going to pay him forty three million
- 9:20Speaker 5: dollars for a one year when you're forty one years
- 9:23Speaker 5: old you all this year? You only pitched how many innings?
- 9:29Speaker 5: Most most of the teams that I've seen are going
- 9:33Speaker 5: and not all because some don't have the deep payrolls
- 9:36Speaker 5: that some of the teams do. Some there's no way
- 9:41Speaker 5: they could afford that, No way they could afford it.
- 9:46Speaker 1: JB.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Listen, I can't see him going anywhere except back to Houston.
- 9:51Speaker 4: I can't see how anybody else would want him. You
- 9:54Speaker 4: look at the teams that are contenders, how he fits
- 9:58Speaker 4: in at the beginning of the year with any of them.
- 10:00Speaker 4: I don't see for the money he'd want. You know,
- 10:05Speaker 4: I'm not a huge fan of Erland or never happened,
- 10:09Speaker 4: but I think if he wants to continue pitching, it'll
- 10:12Speaker 4: be at Houston.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, all right, one thing, we're going to
- 10:17Speaker 1: talk about the passing of Pete Rose, and we're going
- 10:18Speaker 1: to turn a real station break with Candy And obviously
- 10:21Speaker 1: the big news in baseball is a passing of Pete Rose.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I understand that he ended up dying of cardio vascular
- 10:27Speaker 1: disease and there was a little diabetes involved. But the
- 10:30Speaker 1: big question here is does he belong in the Hall
- 10:32Speaker 1: of Fame? You know, all start off with you child.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Listen. I mean Pete Rose is the old time hit leader, right.
- 10:40Speaker 4: You know. The fact that he got banned from the
- 10:42Speaker 4: game for gambling has nothing to do with his hits.
- 10:46Speaker 4: You know, he he was spouting. We don't have any
- 10:49Speaker 4: what year he was suspended, but it's been a long time.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I think it was, right.
- 10:57Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what twenty five years, thirty five years.
- 11:01Speaker 4: I mean, they could have inducted him into the Hall
- 11:04Speaker 4: of Fame. He's not going to get on the job
- 11:06Speaker 4: in baseball. You can't argue that he has the old
- 11:09Speaker 4: time number of hits. You know, he was great for
- 11:13Speaker 4: the game, whether you liked him or hated him. You know,
- 11:16Speaker 4: the man played hard. He was the epitome of a
- 11:22Speaker 4: tough player. And you know, I don't think he was
- 11:25Speaker 4: the best hitter in the game. I think longevity is
- 11:28Speaker 4: why he has the most hits. But he is the
- 11:31Speaker 4: hit leader. You know, nobody has more hits than I've
- 11:33Speaker 4: ever and that's the record. I don't think that'll ever
- 11:36Speaker 4: be broken. The way these guys hit right now, you know, so,
- 11:40Speaker 4: and to have him put in now it's so distasteful.
- 11:44Speaker 4: MLB as usual, you know, does things wrong and it's horrible.
- 11:50Speaker 4: He won't be able to see himself get in there
- 11:52Speaker 4: and enjoy it. And you know, I think it was
- 11:56Speaker 4: on the Levatard Show when he was asked, you know,
- 12:01Speaker 4: do you what happens if you get into the Hall
- 12:03Speaker 4: of Fame posthumously? And he said, I don't care to
- 12:07Speaker 4: want it. It doesn't benefit me or you know, anybody
- 12:11Speaker 4: to get in. So I'm with him. I mean, this
- 12:13Speaker 4: was horrible. He should have got in while he was alive.
- 12:16Speaker 4: There's a there's a group of people that should be
- 12:18Speaker 4: in there right now. That is it. And you know
- 12:21Speaker 4: it comes down to just horrible decisions and horrible marketing,
- 12:27Speaker 4: and you know, people thinking that they're better than what
- 12:31Speaker 4: they are.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, let's go to the tent room for
- 12:35Speaker 1: a term of George Robert Ordell. We're talking Pete Rose dead.
- 12:39Speaker 1: We also lost the Kemmy moved Tumble to a brain
- 12:42Speaker 1: tumor at age fifty eight, and another they lost, Yeah
- 12:45Speaker 1: we did. And rest in peace to Pete Rose and
- 12:48Speaker 1: to Kimmy mud Tumble and the wonder about the Keimmy
- 12:50Speaker 1: mood Tumble. This guy's a little bit. Not only was
- 12:52Speaker 1: he a great player, but a great humanitarian as well.
- 12:55Speaker 1: So you know, you talk about what he did in
- 12:58Speaker 1: Africa and the playing this kuy new what defense is
- 13:01Speaker 1: all about. I can't say anything about today's NBA, but
- 13:04Speaker 1: thanks Robert for bringing that up. We really appreciate, all right,
- 13:07Speaker 1: George Pete, does he belonged in the Hof?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Well, you know, thirty five years. He lived in purgatory
- 13:14Speaker 2: thirty five years. And like you said, JB, he does
- 13:18Speaker 2: not want it. He said that many times now, Bud Selig.
- 13:22Speaker 2: If you go back to the early two thousands, he
- 13:25Speaker 2: offered Rose a chance for reinstatement, but Rose refused because
- 13:30Speaker 2: there were a lot of conditions tied to it. He
- 13:32Speaker 2: had to come clean, no more casino appearances, no more gambling.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Of course, had to give a lot of things.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Up, and Pete said no. He said no.
- 13:42Speaker 2: So he was offered by Sealing an opportunity, you know,
- 13:47Speaker 2: to start overt And again that condition may or may
- 13:52Speaker 2: not have helped him to get into the Hall of Fame,
- 13:55Speaker 2: because the commissioner doesn't control of the Hall of Fame.
- 13:58Speaker 2: The writers and the brought casters and you know, the
- 14:01Speaker 2: committees and all.
- 14:01Speaker 3: That do that. But does he belong there?
- 14:04Speaker 2: Yes, he does belong there, and now that he has passed,
- 14:07Speaker 2: I don't care what he said. I mean, I care,
- 14:10Speaker 2: but I don't think it matters if he didn't want
- 14:13Speaker 2: to or he said he didn't want to, because I'm
- 14:15Speaker 2: sure members of his family and his ardent.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Fans would want him in there, and it's up to
- 14:23Speaker 3: the committees. I don't think they're going to put him in.
- 14:26Speaker 2: But I do support that Scott, I wish, I wish
- 14:29Speaker 2: he would be in the hall.
- 14:30Speaker 5: Now do you think, Candy, I'm gonna disagree. I don't
- 14:36Speaker 5: think he belongs. I think his record belongs, his name,
- 14:41Speaker 5: that he did all those hits back in oh He
- 14:46Speaker 5: signed an agreement back in the day to be placed
- 14:50Speaker 5: on Baseball's ineligible list in nineteen eighty nine after an
- 14:55Speaker 5: investigation found him found he gambled on Cincinnati Rudd's games
- 14:59Speaker 5: as an manager of the club. The band meant he
- 15:02Speaker 5: couldn't go into the Pro Baseball or be associated with it.
- 15:07Speaker 5: He knew that he signed that agreement. Right, Yes, he
- 15:13Speaker 5: is the all time hits leader that can be in there.
- 15:16Speaker 5: But should he I don't. I don't agree with it.
- 15:20Speaker 5: I do not agree with that that he is a
- 15:25Speaker 5: life he's on the lifetime ban list. There are other
- 15:29Speaker 5: people that are on this lifetime ban list that are
- 15:32Speaker 5: still not in there as well. If if we say
- 15:38Speaker 5: we have rules and then we start breaking them, we
- 15:42Speaker 5: break them for everybody. I mean, his record, yes, should
- 15:46Speaker 5: be in there as part of the history of the Hall.
- 15:49Speaker 5: But should he I don't. I don't believe he should.
- 15:52Speaker 5: But that's my personal opinion. I know I differ from
- 15:57Speaker 5: a lot of you, but I don't believe he He
- 16:05Speaker 5: gambled on the game that he played. And we've seen
- 16:10Speaker 5: how many rookies in the NFL that have banned been
- 16:14Speaker 5: banned for games for so long because of the same thing.
- 16:19Speaker 5: And where do you stop, Like, I'm sorry, I you know,
- 16:26Speaker 5: it's a Hall of Fame that you're supposed to look
- 16:31Speaker 5: up to those people, And what does it say that
- 16:33Speaker 5: we're looking up to somebody that did something that was
- 16:37Speaker 5: that he knew was wrong at the time he did it.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Well, I think what all of you are missing out
- 16:43Speaker 1: on is that Okay, number one, Okay, Pete Rose would
- 16:49Speaker 1: sign autographs on induction weekend to try to make money
- 16:54Speaker 1: on those autographs. Jeez, Pete, you could go out there
- 16:57Speaker 1: and make money any other time in Cooper, but not
- 17:00Speaker 1: that you think you're showing any remorse for what you
- 17:04Speaker 1: had done. And he's and he had a book signing
- 17:08Speaker 1: based on what he had done, admitting that he went
- 17:11Speaker 1: out there to profit off of this particular book based
- 17:15Speaker 1: on what he had done. So for fifteen years you
- 17:18Speaker 1: kept lying to us, right, and all of a sudden
- 17:20Speaker 1: you admitted that you've made this mistake, if for no
- 17:24Speaker 1: other reason. I don't know about you, guys, but I
- 17:26Speaker 1: penalize lying big time over anything. Yes, we know about
- 17:30Speaker 1: the forty two hundred, the obviously the hit record forty
- 17:34Speaker 1: two fifty six, another record that will never be broken,
- 17:38Speaker 1: Cal Rippins irons Man's Drink either and I can think
- 17:42Speaker 1: of a lot of them, but that one and Joe
- 17:43Speaker 1: Demagio's fifty six Gamer. And you know we also know
- 17:47Speaker 1: that Rose Plate probably I think the most amount of
- 17:49Speaker 1: games ever. Pete. You know, the reality is you had
- 17:52Speaker 1: opportunities in front of these commissioners to show some sort
- 17:55Speaker 1: of remorse, but obviously common sense didn't take over. And
- 17:59Speaker 1: you everybody knows that that notice is on every clubhouse,
- 18:03Speaker 1: but he decided to do it anyways, and gamble Man
- 18:07Speaker 1: going out there and bending on his own team. I
- 18:10Speaker 1: think I was you can't do that, so you know
- 18:12Speaker 1: what I get it. I think if I remember right
- 18:15Speaker 1: in Cooperstown, they acknowledge records, they just don't have a
- 18:18Speaker 1: plaque up there for them. So it's not like you're
- 18:21Speaker 1: leaving out important information. You're not giving the guy an
- 18:24Speaker 1: opportunity to have a plaque there, which means everybody. And
- 18:27Speaker 1: when you think out how many people get inducted into
- 18:29Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, there aren't that many. If you
- 18:32Speaker 1: get a seventy four point eight percent vote, Okay, guess
- 18:36Speaker 1: what you're waiting another year. They don't round up in
- 18:39Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. They just don't do it. So Joe,
- 18:43Speaker 1: you're right, from a numeric standpoint, he belongs there. But
- 18:47Speaker 1: Bart Giamonti, Dandam and two other commissioners had a chance
- 18:52Speaker 1: to do it, and he didn't. Never showed remorse. That's
- 18:56Speaker 1: the biggest issue I have with the whole thing. So well, anyways,
- 19:00Speaker 1: let's go out there and give Candy station break.
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- 20:36Speaker 1: Back to you, Scott, she talked too fast. She learned
- 20:39Speaker 1: it from me. Please don't learn everything from me. I mean,
- 20:43Speaker 1: I know I'm king of the road when I have
- 20:44Speaker 1: a lead foot. And you know, I got to give
- 20:46Speaker 1: Candy credits. She'll never drive as fast as I do
- 20:48Speaker 1: on the interstate. But I've been known, you know, once
- 20:51Speaker 1: she sees slow drivers down here, I've taught her you
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- 20:59Speaker 1: And even if I have to take the NASCAR approach,
- 21:01Speaker 1: And by the way, I will have a NASCAR topic
- 21:03Speaker 1: count here tonight. By the way, you know, she's learned
- 21:06Speaker 1: a lot from me. But there you go. You have
- 21:08Speaker 1: it at the bottom. And Joe Ellis obviously is a
- 21:11Speaker 1: big part of what we're doing with Sideline Sports as well.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Worked on a lot of projects in the past with them.
- 21:15Speaker 1: We're gonna be I need to work on a few
- 21:17Speaker 1: more as well. All right, So now let's change the
- 21:22Speaker 1: sport anyways over to the National Football League. Las Vegas
- 21:26Speaker 1: Raiders wide receiver Davonte Adams wants to be traded, so
- 21:31Speaker 1: best landing spots, mister Ellis.
- 21:34Speaker 4: So, I mean, obviously the best landing spot would be
- 21:37Speaker 4: Kansas City, but that will never happen. The Chiefs and
- 21:40Speaker 4: the Raiders, I can't foresee them making a trade being
- 21:43Speaker 4: in the same division and hating each other. That leaves
- 21:47Speaker 4: two other spots in my mind, the Jets or New Orleans.
- 21:50Speaker 4: Back to his old buddies, Derek Carr Aaron Rodgers. I
- 21:54Speaker 4: don't see how he helps the Jets. The Jets have
- 21:56Speaker 4: more than enough talent on the offense. They don't have
- 22:01Speaker 4: that star receiver. They have good receivers, but they don't
- 22:04Speaker 4: have a star receiver. I think he'd fit in really
- 22:07Speaker 4: good there and that would elevate their offense. But I
- 22:12Speaker 4: don't know how long it's going to take this to
- 22:13Speaker 4: be done. I can see this drag it out a
- 22:15Speaker 4: few weeks because of the salary cap and teams try
- 22:19Speaker 4: to save money, and I try to pay them. All
- 22:20Speaker 4: this extra money going for them right away, well.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Part of them might do, depending on what the Raiders'
- 22:25Speaker 1: compensation as well. Do you want to give up a
- 22:28Speaker 1: second round pick for this guy if somebody's willing to
- 22:31Speaker 1: pull me up a second round or it gets done
- 22:33Speaker 1: a little quicker and then the established player too, So
- 22:36Speaker 1: it'll definitely be interesting, all right, Georgia, do you.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Think, well, I know one team's not coming to the
- 22:42Speaker 2: Detroit Lions because they obviously feel very confident with their
- 22:47Speaker 2: roster right now on their receiving cor Yeah, I mean
- 22:53Speaker 2: you say the Jets JB Okay, Yeah, well look what
- 22:57Speaker 2: happened they lost to Denver, right yep, So.
- 23:03Speaker 3: I still think he may end up in the Jets uniform.
- 23:06Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going to depend upon you know, teams
- 23:09Speaker 2: that they have enough money, teams that have enough value
- 23:13Speaker 2: okay to offer the Raiders. I mean it's a tough situation.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I don't I'm not a big fan of guys holding out.
- 23:21Speaker 2: I never was before the Detroit Lions used to have
- 23:24Speaker 2: guys holding out all the time under a different regime.
- 23:28Speaker 2: But you know, Adams he's got to play. I mean,
- 23:30Speaker 2: he is a very gifted athlete, good receivers, solid credentials.
- 23:34Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this situation with the Las Vegas Raiders.
- 23:38Speaker 2: They continue to have problems, you know, even finishing five hundred,
- 23:44Speaker 2: let alone trying to make a playoffs. But there are
- 23:48Speaker 2: several teams that could use him.
- 23:51Speaker 3: I just don't know who's.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Gonna have the money in order to afford him and
- 23:55Speaker 2: want to give up. You mentioned draft choices, Well, draft
- 23:59Speaker 2: choices can be always given up. You just don't want
- 24:02Speaker 2: to give up high, high draft choices, as we learned
- 24:05Speaker 2: what the Rams and the Lions and that incredible.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Trade that time. But I'll tell you what, Like I said,
- 24:10Speaker 3: I'm a fan. I mean, he's talented guy. He needs
- 24:13Speaker 3: to be playing.
- 24:14Speaker 2: He needs to be suiting up and playing, and you know,
- 24:16Speaker 2: get off this, you know, get off the schneide and
- 24:19Speaker 2: start getting into the action here in twenty four.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Do you think Candy.
- 24:25Speaker 5: Well, George, I will tell you that he is. He
- 24:28Speaker 5: does have a hamstring injury, so that will hamper a
- 24:32Speaker 5: lot of teams going after him. He basically teams need
- 24:37Speaker 5: thirteen and a half million dollars salary cap room. Kansas
- 24:41Speaker 5: City does not have it. They only have around ten million,
- 24:44Speaker 5: so they can't the Jets. The Jets have right now
- 24:49Speaker 5: sixteen point eight million to spare. However, things would become
- 24:54Speaker 5: more complex if Edge Rusher has seen Reddick reports to
- 24:57Speaker 5: the team all that haven't been the updates with him.
- 25:01Speaker 5: He would be reuniting with Aaron Rodgers, who he spent
- 25:04Speaker 5: I think it was eight or nine years with on
- 25:08Speaker 5: Green Bay. They were forced to reckon with. You know,
- 25:13Speaker 5: he could go to the Steelers, now that would be
- 25:16Speaker 5: kind of interesting Cowboys, I don't think. So there was
- 25:21Speaker 5: talk possibly Washington.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Now.
- 25:26Speaker 5: I know you guys all wouldn't like this and don't
- 25:28Speaker 5: want me to bring this up, but there is a
- 25:29Speaker 5: chance he could come to Green Bay. Christian Watson has
- 25:32Speaker 5: been injury prone. It'd be really nice to have a
- 25:35Speaker 5: veteran receiver. And the Packers actually have fourteen point two
- 25:42Speaker 5: million in cap space, so they'd have enough space for him.
- 25:46Speaker 5: Now do they want to bring on someone that also
- 25:49Speaker 5: has a hamstring injury. I do not know, but those
- 25:53Speaker 5: are some different options that I think would be interesting.
- 25:56Speaker 5: I'd bring as a Packer fan. He was, he was good,
- 26:00Speaker 5: so I could see him in Jordan Love, you know,
- 26:05Speaker 5: picking apart some defenses out there, so.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Well, he may he may have doubted Jordan Love before,
- 26:12Speaker 1: but now he sees that Jordan Love become a pretty
- 26:13Speaker 1: good quarterback. So I don't think it's as far as
- 26:16Speaker 1: fetch as you think that it is. Aaron Rodgers readion
- 26:19Speaker 1: with the Jens would be all right, But I'm more
- 26:20Speaker 1: along the lines of show on this one. I think
- 26:22Speaker 1: New Orleans is a better spot for Derek Carr. He
- 26:26Speaker 1: bear in mind, went to Vegas because a car. He
- 26:28Speaker 1: really did, so, now, obviously to have him go back
- 26:31Speaker 1: to New Orleans with car, to me would make the
- 26:33Speaker 1: most sense. So if I were going to place anybody
- 26:36Speaker 1: in a particular order, I would actually say New Orleans first,
- 26:41Speaker 1: find a way to make it work with the Jets,
- 26:43Speaker 1: and I would tend to go with Green Bay as
- 26:45Speaker 1: the third option. I'm not so sure about the realistic
- 26:49Speaker 1: possibility with the other one, but that would be my
- 26:51Speaker 1: order as well. So nevertheless, the party is over for
- 26:57Speaker 1: Devonte Adams in last Vegas. All right, So we're gonna
- 27:02Speaker 1: shave gears a little bit and they're pun intended. You
- 27:04Speaker 1: better believe there is. NAT's kind of announces that there's
- 27:08Speaker 1: gonna be a race in Mexico City in twenty twenty five,
- 27:11Speaker 1: and it will be the first points race outside of
- 27:13Speaker 1: the USA in sixty seven years, and it will be
- 27:17Speaker 1: at the Auto Drone on June fourteenth, fifteenth weekend. So
- 27:21Speaker 1: Candy start off with this one. What do you think
- 27:23Speaker 1: about NASCAR going to Mexico City.
- 27:25Speaker 5: I think they're following all the suits of all the
- 27:27Speaker 5: major sports that are trying to grow their brand internationally
- 27:31Speaker 5: and like not just having things here in the US.
- 27:34Speaker 5: So that's why they're, you know, gonna expand out there.
- 27:39Speaker 5: Good for them, you know, everybody's doing it. They're trying
- 27:45Speaker 5: to get international fan bases, they're trying to drum up
- 27:50Speaker 5: more revenues, you know, different place to market their brand.
- 27:58Speaker 5: And IMSA does you know Lamon? So they're out there,
- 28:03Speaker 5: why not NASCAR going more international?
- 28:06Speaker 1: Don't give me starting on? Lamon says, you know, darn well,
- 28:08Speaker 1: that's on my bucket list next year. I've done the
- 28:11Speaker 1: roll Age twenty four, I've done stee Ring twelve, and
- 28:14Speaker 1: I'm aching to get to Lamont. But yeah, it'll be
- 28:16Speaker 1: interesting to go to Mexico City. Obviously it's proven grow
- 28:19Speaker 1: with the NFL. I think as Baseball played a game
- 28:23Speaker 1: down in Major League Baseball played a game in Mexico City,
- 28:26Speaker 1: So yeah, why not NASCAR? And I don't know much
- 28:28Speaker 1: about the Autodrome, but evidently they must feel it's worthwhile.
- 28:32Speaker 2: So what do you think, George, Well, yeah, I agree
- 28:37Speaker 2: for all the same reasons that Candy mentioned. I mean,
- 28:39Speaker 2: the product is the important thing here, and the audience
- 28:45Speaker 2: is so crucial, especially in motorsports, and NASCAR has always
- 28:50Speaker 2: been the king of the road, and they have packed
- 28:54Speaker 2: places in Kansas and Bristol and Daytona Beach in Las
- 28:58Speaker 2: Vegas or wherever they've gone on Miami, you know, and
- 29:02Speaker 2: these other tracks that are historic. But you know, Darlington
- 29:05Speaker 2: and Richmond and Indianapolis, so I mean, you know, but
- 29:10Speaker 2: those days are.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Not here any longer.
- 29:14Speaker 2: You can look at a lot of the races and
- 29:16Speaker 2: you'll see empty seats for NASCAR, and that never used
- 29:20Speaker 2: to be the case. And I know, Scott, you've been
- 29:22Speaker 2: covering motorsports a long long time like I have. And
- 29:25Speaker 2: I mean they even went so far in Michigan at
- 29:28Speaker 2: the Speedway to take grand stands away so it wouldn't
- 29:32Speaker 2: look so obvious. So this is a great opportunity for
- 29:37Speaker 2: NASCAR and again to showcase their product, to expand a
- 29:41Speaker 2: little bit. Mexico City is one of the cities, as
- 29:44Speaker 2: you talked about earlier, that's been open to sports, you know,
- 29:49Speaker 2: baseball and football, especially coming there the NHL hockey.
- 29:53Speaker 3: You know, they go to the other venues.
- 29:55Speaker 2: But I do think that NASCAR is trying to make
- 29:59Speaker 2: an inroad there. I don't blame them at all. Plus,
- 30:01Speaker 2: you know, you know, maybe they're trying to draw more
- 30:04Speaker 2: Hispanic fans too as well, you know South American fans,
- 30:09Speaker 2: which I know they have a lot of, but they
- 30:11Speaker 2: want to do more of that. So yeah, I think
- 30:13Speaker 2: it's a It is a money grab, but it's a
- 30:15Speaker 2: sense of exploring new options and new experiences for those fans.
- 30:20Speaker 3: Especially that we travel to Mexico City for the race.
- 30:23Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think gel NASCAR
- 30:25Speaker 1: is going on in Mexico.
- 30:26Speaker 4: So, Mexico City is the sixth larger metropolitan area in
- 30:31Speaker 4: the world. It has more people than New York City.
- 30:36Speaker 4: If you have an event there and you know it's
- 30:39Speaker 4: a sports league, why would it you If you can
- 30:42Speaker 4: draw interest in a bigger city population the New York City,
- 30:46Speaker 4: it's a no brainer. Do it at a second, and
- 30:49Speaker 4: if you can expand your market, So it's all about
- 30:52Speaker 4: making money and bringing in new fans, so that's a
- 30:56Speaker 4: no brainer. I don't blame them. I would do it
- 30:58Speaker 4: in a second. I mean, I just hope, unlike the NFL,
- 31:01Speaker 4: which has a tendency to go play games at different
- 31:04Speaker 4: stadiums and the field is never right and it becomes
- 31:07Speaker 4: dangerous for the players. I hope that the track there
- 31:11Speaker 4: is good and it's safe for the drivers. I hope
- 31:14Speaker 4: they don'll follow the NFL lead with that.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where you're going with this one. That
- 31:18Speaker 1: field in Brazil was outright diss that horrible.
- 31:22Speaker 4: It really was.
- 31:23Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm all for it as well. But the
- 31:25Speaker 1: thing I like, well, what NASCAR is doing, and not
- 31:26Speaker 1: only are they going to Mexico City with the side
- 31:29Speaker 1: of the city, but also think about the fact that
- 31:31Speaker 1: NASCAR is willing to put a race in the La
- 31:33Speaker 1: Coli Seeum, and I think that's a great event in itself.
- 31:37Speaker 1: That'd be a bucket list too. I'm going to get
- 31:39Speaker 1: to the La Coleenseum one way or the other, whether
- 31:41Speaker 1: it's a Wolverines or whether it's a NASCAR event, although
- 31:45Speaker 1: I still have other things they need to do before
- 31:46Speaker 1: we get out there. But nevertheless, Mexico City, what do
- 31:51Speaker 1: you have to lose? The fact, what do you have
- 31:52Speaker 1: to gain? A lot of this called money? Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 31:56Speaker 1: So now we're going to flip over from NASCAR. We're
- 31:58Speaker 1: going to talk about the Winter Olympics, So we're going
- 32:00Speaker 1: to go a little ways out for this one. Salt
- 32:02Speaker 1: Lake City was awarded the twenty thirty four Winter Olympics.
- 32:05Speaker 1: It hosted the event in two thousand and two. Joe,
- 32:08Speaker 1: we'll go back to you. Great to return back to
- 32:10Speaker 1: Salt Lake City.
- 32:13Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's one of those things as
- 32:16Speaker 4: long as they have the facilities for it. You know,
- 32:19Speaker 4: from what I've read and learned, having the Olympic Games
- 32:23Speaker 4: is a trade on a city and area financially, so
- 32:28Speaker 4: a lot of it depends on what resources they have
- 32:30Speaker 4: there from the last time they had the games, so
- 32:33Speaker 4: that they're not putting a lot of money that they
- 32:35Speaker 4: don't have into it, because generally it is a losing proposition,
- 32:41Speaker 4: which is why a lot of these countries don't bid
- 32:43Speaker 4: for the Olympics anymore like they used to. It used
- 32:46Speaker 4: to be a huge moneymaker. That's sort of changed. I
- 32:49Speaker 4: don't know where the change happened in history, but it's
- 32:53Speaker 4: completely different than what it used to be. So but
- 32:56Speaker 4: I think Salt Lake City just had it recently in
- 32:59Speaker 4: the early two thousand, so a lot of the facilities
- 33:01Speaker 4: may just need minor upgrading. So it should be a
- 33:04Speaker 4: slab dug for them.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you a question, Joe. Yeah, you
- 33:08Speaker 1: know one of the few cities that actually they actually
- 33:12Speaker 1: made money off the summer Olympics. How about Los Angeles
- 33:18Speaker 1: when Peter you Broth was running again. He subsequently became
- 33:21Speaker 1: commissioner of Major League Pafall. Peter you Brought actually made
- 33:25Speaker 1: money off the LA Olympics. Of course, like you said,
- 33:27Speaker 1: a lot of the facilities are in place. And I
- 33:30Speaker 1: was actually there for the nineteen eighty four Olympics and
- 33:32Speaker 1: stay with my late cousin Terry, and we bought tickets
- 33:34Speaker 1: a couple events and then he showed me around the area.
- 33:37Speaker 1: So Peter you Brought is one of the few people
- 33:39Speaker 1: that actually made money. Otherwise, You're right, Unless you have facilities,
- 33:42Speaker 1: you got to start building them. Nobody's making money out
- 33:44Speaker 1: of Just want to throw Peter you Brought out there?
- 33:47Speaker 1: All right, George, what do you think?
- 33:49Speaker 4: Well?
- 33:50Speaker 2: I had the privilege of going to the Olympics in
- 33:52Speaker 2: nineteen eighty in Lake class Ed with my wife, and
- 33:55Speaker 2: that was a truly remarkable experience, as we know, the
- 33:58Speaker 2: miracle on ice Olympics, and that's the type of scene
- 34:03Speaker 2: I like. I like it there because it's a smaller city,
- 34:07Speaker 2: smaller venue. But it's never going to happen again because
- 34:10Speaker 2: the Olympic Olympics have gotten too big, two overstaffed, two overpopulated,
- 34:16Speaker 2: larger delegations, which is not a bad thing from many
- 34:20Speaker 2: countries around the world.
- 34:22Speaker 3: But Lake Plaston did a terrific job.
- 34:25Speaker 2: And then in nineteen eighty three I took a preview
- 34:27Speaker 2: trip with ABC Sports to visit Sarajevo and they also
- 34:32Speaker 2: did a.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Really nice job.
- 34:33Speaker 2: But we know what happened after that with the war,
- 34:36Speaker 2: a terrible war in Yugoslavia. So getting back to Utah, Yeah,
- 34:42Speaker 2: Mitt Romney the former Republican presidential candidate. But Mitt Romney,
- 34:48Speaker 2: he wasn't one at the time, but he was the
- 34:50Speaker 2: like you mentioned Peter, you broke did a great job
- 34:52Speaker 2: in Atlanta, in La Mitt did a great job in
- 34:55Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. Those were very successful games. And I
- 34:58Speaker 2: think what you're going to see here now is they're
- 35:00Speaker 2: going to go back to these cities that had it before.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Because you cited all the costs involved, the money involved,
- 35:07Speaker 2: and you mentioned Joe about the infrastructure. Salt Lake City
- 35:11Speaker 2: has a lot of that still.
- 35:13Speaker 3: There, which is great. They might have to build a
- 35:15Speaker 3: few things, but we don't know yet.
- 35:17Speaker 2: But I'm glad it's back in the US, and of
- 35:20Speaker 2: course it's back in Los Angeles. The next Summer Games
- 35:22Speaker 2: are going to be in LA so the USA has
- 35:25Speaker 2: got two of them coming up. But yeah, they're very expensive,
- 35:29Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, everything from security to you know, the
- 35:32Speaker 2: police protection and all the things that have to go
- 35:35Speaker 2: with barbed boyer and it's terrible, I mean, but it's
- 35:38Speaker 2: needed because of the threats and terrorism stuff, so a
- 35:41Speaker 2: lot of extra money has spent more than it ever
- 35:44Speaker 2: was before. It is a costly venture, but my heart says, yes,
- 35:49Speaker 2: I'm happy for the US getting the Winter Games again.
- 35:53Speaker 1: So let me ask everybody out there, and Candy, you
- 35:55Speaker 1: know you can't research this one because you're smart enough
- 35:57Speaker 1: to probably do it. What to don't put nothing past her.
- 36:01Speaker 1: She's really doing good when it comes to research. I've
- 36:03Speaker 1: never seen anybody's research is so well on the fly.
- 36:07Speaker 1: What to US city? What two US cities actually hosted
- 36:12Speaker 1: the Olympic Games where the US wanted gold medal in hockey?
- 36:18Speaker 1: Anybody wanted to take a guess?
- 36:19Speaker 4: I know the answer.
- 36:21Speaker 3: What about you saw Valley?
- 36:24Speaker 4: What is Lake Classic?
- 36:27Speaker 1: Yeah? Ye, Squall Valley in Lake Plastic.
- 36:29Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know the first one. That must have
- 36:31Speaker 4: been way back.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's okay, Joe, I give you credit. I mean,
- 36:35Speaker 1: you know you were. I mean, George is the oldest
- 36:38Speaker 1: one on the panel. I'm the second oldest, and you know,
- 36:40Speaker 1: I'm not going to designate agents for the remainders. But
- 36:44Speaker 1: I remember when I was in Lake Tahoe though many
- 36:46Speaker 1: years ago, and I've been there a couple of times.
- 36:48Speaker 1: He never been to Lake Tahoe. It's a great place
- 36:50Speaker 1: to go, awesome out there, scenerial, but yeah, I don't
- 36:54Speaker 1: think that a lot of the Squall Valley facilities back
- 36:57Speaker 1: then when they had it or there, But just going
- 36:59Speaker 1: to that part of the country around Lake Tahoe and
- 37:02Speaker 1: going to Squad Valleys on label, yeah, I get Squad
- 37:04Speaker 1: Valley and then you had and then you obviously had
- 37:07Speaker 1: a big placid. Of course, George was doing reports when
- 37:09Speaker 1: I was doing when I was working at WXYZ And yeah, So, Katie,
- 37:14Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about Salt Lake.
- 37:17Speaker 5: So Salt Lake City, Utah, will host the twenty thirty
- 37:21Speaker 5: four Winter Olympics, which will take place from February tenth
- 37:24Speaker 5: through the twenty sixth. The Para Olympic Winter Games will
- 37:28Speaker 5: follow in the same venues from March tenth to the nineteenth.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Salt Lake City will be the fifth city to host
- 37:36Speaker 5: multiple Winter Olympics and the first singular city host since
- 37:41Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. It is the fifth Winter Olympics held
- 37:48Speaker 5: in the United States, which I thought was very interesting
- 37:52Speaker 5: that it's only been that many in the in the US.
- 37:57Speaker 5: Good for them, I mean I have a feeling there
- 38:00Speaker 5: a museum there and stuff like that that they're saying,
- 38:04Speaker 5: there's a countdown clock already going. They're gonna have you know,
- 38:11Speaker 5: some of your basic your alpine skiing, your figure skating.
- 38:16Speaker 5: What else did they say they were going to host
- 38:19Speaker 5: their and snowboarding? Uh, they were selected back in July
- 38:26Speaker 5: as the host city. Ah, good for them. I think
- 38:30Speaker 5: it's always exciting when it's here in the US. But
- 38:36Speaker 5: good for them. Good for them, I mean I think
- 38:39Speaker 5: that they won't have as much cost because I think
- 38:41Speaker 5: they will use some of the same old venues even
- 38:44Speaker 5: though they, you know, are how old.
- 38:47Speaker 3: I think.
- 38:50Speaker 5: I just think it's it's cool because it's not it's
- 38:56Speaker 5: not a place that has a lot of other sports
- 38:59Speaker 5: so to have to come there and to have to
- 39:03Speaker 5: have the Olympics as cool, Well.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I've been to Salt Lake City before.
- 39:08Speaker 1: I ended up seeing the Utah Jazz. I think played
- 39:11Speaker 1: like one or two games over there at the old
- 39:14Speaker 1: Salt Palace. I think it was torn down and they
- 39:16Speaker 1: built another place out there. I think it was in
- 39:18Speaker 1: Delta Center. I don't know what they're calling it now. Nevertheless,
- 39:21Speaker 1: I sold games there. I even saw hockey game there.
- 39:24Speaker 1: It's like a tripa a type of AHL game over there.
- 39:27Speaker 1: And it was actually on a segment when I was
- 39:29Speaker 1: taking this long drive around the country to knock off
- 39:32Speaker 1: the remaining states I had so I can hit the
- 39:34Speaker 1: forty eight and then I would target Alaska and Hawaii
- 39:38Speaker 1: later on. So Salt Lake City to me is ideal.
- 39:41Speaker 1: But let's not forget Okay, here in the National Hockey League,
- 39:45Speaker 1: the Utah Hockey Club will be making its debut. So
- 39:49Speaker 1: now you're going to have the National Hockey League out
- 39:52Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, and you have the Utah Jazz
- 39:56Speaker 1: and they've got I believe they have an MLS team,
- 39:58Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and they're lobbying for Major League Baseball.
- 40:01Speaker 1: So like Vegas, Salt Lake is slowly becoming an area
- 40:06Speaker 1: where they may attract a lot more Major League sports
- 40:08Speaker 1: than they have. And let's not forget about the University
- 40:11Speaker 1: of Utah. You two have obviously been great for many
- 40:14Speaker 1: many years as well. Don't sell the youth short. So
- 40:18Speaker 1: it'll be pretty good. I think they'll they'll be well
- 40:20Speaker 1: equipped to handle it. And again, if you've never been
- 40:23Speaker 1: to Lake Tahokota Squad Valley, it's a beautiful place in
- 40:27Speaker 1: Utah as well. So all right, well it's time for
- 40:29Speaker 1: party shots. So you know, Joe, go ahead and lead off.
- 40:33Speaker 4: So Major League Baseball, as usual, makes millions of mistakes.
- 40:38Speaker 4: They don't know how to run a league. Last week,
- 40:43Speaker 4: there was a hurricane in the Southeast. The Mets contacted
- 40:48Speaker 4: the Commissioner's office on Sunday to try and get the
- 40:51Speaker 4: games moved to Monday and Tuesday, to have a doubleheader
- 40:55Speaker 4: or one of the days and play on Monday, so
- 40:56Speaker 4: that this way they get all their games down in Atlanta.
- 41:00Speaker 4: Major League Baseball contacted the Braves and they kind of
- 41:04Speaker 4: sat on. It never happened, and sure enough, the Mets
- 41:07Speaker 4: played a game on Tuesday night at Atlanta. Wednesday, was
- 41:11Speaker 4: postponed around four pm Central time. Mets had to get
- 41:15Speaker 4: to Milwaukee get out of the hurricane so that they
- 41:18Speaker 4: could fly. Got to Milwaukee Elite Thursday, played our Friday,
- 41:24Speaker 4: played over the weekend, went back to Atlanta for a
- 41:28Speaker 4: double header on Monday. Game one was a phenomenal game,
- 41:31Speaker 4: went back and forth. The Mets won on our Francisco
- 41:34Speaker 4: Lindor home run of the ninth inning, and they got
- 41:37Speaker 4: into the postseason and the Braves followed up at one game two,
- 41:41Speaker 4: and the Diamondbacks got shut out of the playoffs because
- 41:45Speaker 4: nine times out of ten, I would say seventy percent
- 41:47Speaker 4: of double headers are split. And all the teams had
- 41:51Speaker 4: to do was win one game and they were in
- 41:52Speaker 4: and the Diamondbacks were out. Now the Braves had to
- 41:56Speaker 4: fly all the way out west to San Diego, and
- 42:00Speaker 4: as you can see from last night and tonight, they
- 42:02Speaker 4: just don't have any life in them. They're getting their
- 42:05Speaker 4: blank kicked a little bit different from the Mets. They're
- 42:09Speaker 4: playing up, but I don't know, I'm shocked that they're
- 42:12Speaker 4: they're doing as well with the Brewers. But the Mets
- 42:15Speaker 4: are just a hot team right now. And it's a
- 42:17Speaker 4: close game of Brewers could still take this one, but
- 42:20Speaker 4: the Mets are released given them a little bit of
- 42:22Speaker 4: a fight and have a chance to close out the
- 42:24Speaker 4: Brewers if they close out the game. But MLB Baseball,
- 42:27Speaker 4: you affected three teams with this horrible decision. You've got
- 42:30Speaker 4: to step in. You know, it was a hurricane. You
- 42:33Speaker 4: know people's lives are at risk. Yeah, you just messed up.
- 42:38Speaker 4: You know, the Braves rotation, the Mets rotation. Yet the
- 42:41Speaker 4: Diamondbacks got kept out of the playoffs because of it. It
- 42:44Speaker 4: was just a horrible situation and it was like there
- 42:47Speaker 4: was no foresight to it. When you know, all you
- 42:49Speaker 4: have to do is turn on the weather channel. I'm
- 42:51Speaker 4: sure it was there.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Well, sounds pretty good, Joe, all right, Georgia party shot.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Well, my partying shot.
- 43:00Speaker 3: It's going to be the Detroit Lions.
- 43:02Speaker 2: They had a bounce back win last Monday, as you
- 43:04Speaker 2: guys know, and Monday night.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Football and you know all the hoopla that goes along
- 43:10Speaker 3: with that.
- 43:10Speaker 2: But more important to that was a welcome home and
- 43:14Speaker 2: back in good good standing with Detroit and it was overdue.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Was Calvin Johnson.
- 43:21Speaker 2: As we know, he's in the Football Hall of Fame
- 43:23Speaker 2: in Canton, Ohio and the Lions have been trying working
- 43:28Speaker 2: with him over the last year or two years, maybe
- 43:31Speaker 2: trying to bring him back into the fold. As you know,
- 43:34Speaker 2: it was a very messy scene where they wanted money
- 43:37Speaker 2: back from him from his contract that he signed, and
- 43:42Speaker 2: you know, it just got into a really bad situation.
- 43:45Speaker 2: But Monday vindication happened. It wasn't a long ceremony, but
- 43:50Speaker 2: it was a very nice one. There was alumni night
- 43:53Speaker 2: for Detroit Lions, so they brought back Eric Kipple and
- 43:57Speaker 2: all kinds of great players of course, you know Stephen
- 44:00Speaker 2: Toegan and Momas Brown and you know Billy.
- 44:04Speaker 3: I don't know if Billy was there, but Sanders was there.
- 44:07Speaker 2: It was a great ceremony and uh a short and sweet,
- 44:11Speaker 2: but they welcome to him into the o Lion's family
- 44:14Speaker 2: again and honored him by heading into the Pride of
- 44:18Speaker 2: the Lions.
- 44:19Speaker 3: So it was a good thing. It was.
- 44:21Speaker 2: The crowd was into it. It was very nice ceremony
- 44:24Speaker 2: and welcome home Calvin Johnson. That's my parting shot.
- 44:28Speaker 1: I will turn over to Candy, but before we do, though,
- 44:34Speaker 1: I don't want to forget this. Robert Ordell thinks that
- 44:37Speaker 1: maybe the bear should get a wide receiver at Devonte
- 44:40Speaker 1: Annam's for Caleb who knows? Maybe, all right, go ahead,
- 44:43Speaker 1: I'm got to get that.
- 44:44Speaker 5: In my parting shot is in the realm of college football.
- 44:50Speaker 5: The n C two A has made a boatload of money,
- 44:56Speaker 5: and yet we still have refs making bad calls. We
- 45:00Speaker 5: still can't get calls right, or we don't have cameras
- 45:05Speaker 5: at the right angles to get all of the right
- 45:10Speaker 5: right angles to see everything. So let's face it, if
- 45:15Speaker 5: anybody caught the end of the Miami Virginia Tech game,
- 45:20Speaker 5: was it a touchdown or wasn't it a touchdown? Was
- 45:22Speaker 5: it a catcher or not a catch? In the Minnesota
- 45:26Speaker 5: and Michigan game, were they off sides or were they
- 45:30Speaker 5: not off sides? They have now appealed, not appealed, but
- 45:33Speaker 5: they have now gone the Big Ten has gone to
- 45:36Speaker 5: the n C two A to change where the refs
- 45:39Speaker 5: are gonna stand. Come on, we've been playing football for
- 45:42Speaker 5: how many years? Why is it taking now them to
- 45:45Speaker 5: change some of these rules. Why can't they have cameras,
- 45:49Speaker 5: more cameras. Let's face it, some of these cameras these
- 45:52Speaker 5: days can catch so many different angles that why is
- 45:55Speaker 5: it coming down to this now, come on n C
- 45:58Speaker 5: two A, get it together, get better.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Graphically. I think we're searching for a miracle there.
- 46:06Speaker 4: Anyways, quick question before we go on this weekend in
- 46:10Speaker 4: the NFL kind of similar to Candy's point, I've never
- 46:14Speaker 4: heard this before. Maybe I just missed it in all
- 46:16Speaker 4: the NFL games I've watched. I multiple times I heard, uh,
- 46:21Speaker 4: you know, the call was changed because of replay assist.
- 46:25Speaker 4: Has anyone ever heard that before about replay assist story
- 46:28Speaker 4: a game? Because multiple occasions I heard that over this weekend.
- 46:35Speaker 3: I've never heard those words used.
- 46:37Speaker 4: Like okay, because it happened multiple times and I it
- 46:42Speaker 4: wasn't a challenge or anything. It was what was the
- 46:45Speaker 4: spot of the ball? I forgot what the other one was.
- 46:49Speaker 4: It may have been a turnover that was overturned or something,
- 46:52Speaker 4: and it was, you know, they said, you know, because
- 46:56Speaker 4: of replay assists, and I've never heard that. I'm like,
- 46:59Speaker 4: since when did that going to affect it? Where were
- 47:01Speaker 4: they going to tell us?
- 47:03Speaker 5: It says NFL replay officials assist on field officials with
- 47:08Speaker 5: game administration, including rules and penalty application, and helping with
- 47:12Speaker 5: the clock. An NFL replay operator ironically gets earns a
- 47:17Speaker 5: salary of fifty almost fifty eight thousand dollars a year.
- 47:22Speaker 2: Yeah, every every every game, as you guys know, has
- 47:25Speaker 2: the replay official aside and he sits in the pass box.
- 47:30Speaker 4: Yeah. It was just very interesting because I've never heard
- 47:34Speaker 4: like on a spot or anything like that where you know,
- 47:37Speaker 4: they made it specifically where they said, oh, the replay
- 47:40Speaker 4: assist official made the call Like that was just weird,
- 47:45Speaker 4: you know, because it's usually the guy on the field
- 47:48Speaker 4: that does it, or less the coach challenges it, and
- 47:51Speaker 4: you know that's up.
- 47:51Speaker 1: To the coach. I've never heard of it, so well,
- 47:56Speaker 1: I'm hearing it from you folks. First, I don't know,
- 47:59Speaker 1: haven't know. I'm gonna go to a party shot somewhat
- 48:02Speaker 1: related to candy, at least with the Michigan anyhow, the
- 48:05Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines hold about the Minnesota gold Golfers. I score
- 48:10Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty four on Saturday improve their record
- 48:12Speaker 1: of four and one. We're still undefeated in the Big Ten.
- 48:15Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to seeing what they're gonna do
- 48:18Speaker 1: in its first road game versus the Washington Huskies, a
- 48:24Speaker 1: title rematch of Washington Huskies and a big ten. I'm
- 48:28Speaker 1: still trying to get used to it. I'm trying to
- 48:32Speaker 1: get used to all of these matchups that and anything.
- 48:34Speaker 1: But you've got Michigan State against Oregon. We've had USC
- 48:38Speaker 1: against Wisconsin, We've had USC against Michigan my goodness almost
- 48:42Speaker 1: we have a very big geography problem. But that's the
- 48:46Speaker 1: nature of the day. So we'll see what the Wolverine's
- 48:48Speaker 1: gonna do under sharone more. They know that they have
- 48:51Speaker 1: a lot of things that get cleaned up. The quarterback
- 48:53Speaker 1: play isn't the greatest right now, but you admit I
- 48:58Speaker 1: like link Martindale, Martinlough, the defensive coordinator. He was a
- 49:02Speaker 1: good pickup from the Giant. So let's see what the
- 49:04Speaker 1: Wolverines do this weekend. I'm also looking forward to the
- 49:07Speaker 1: fact that I have a sports free weekend and don't
- 49:10Speaker 1: have to do anything except get caught up on some
- 49:12Speaker 1: things around the house and get a few other things done.
- 49:15Speaker 1: So kind of looking forward to a little bit. So
- 49:18Speaker 1: with that said, this does conclude this edition of the
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- 49:24Speaker 1: is going to take us home.
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- 53:13Speaker 1: And this is your Wednesday Night crew for the Sports Exchange,
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- 53:18Speaker 1: this show goes back to the eighties when George, I,
- 53:22Speaker 1: Corny and I were doing it on terrestrial radio. My gosh,
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- 53:28Speaker 4: Started with that one.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Yeah, otherwise, you know, but it's been a while. We
- 53:34Speaker 1: picked it up, brought it back and going nowhere. Of course,
- 53:37Speaker 1: now we have a tradition every once in a while
- 53:39Speaker 1: they take the day. I'll find somebody to come in here. Now.
- 53:42Speaker 1: I do want to give a little kudos to Jennifer
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- 53:48Speaker 1: I encourage you to go ahead and promote your shows
- 53:51Speaker 1: as well because you do a good job. And I
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- 53:58Speaker 1: she was with you for a little while, but without you,
- 54:01Speaker 1: Candy would have her dig with the girls. And you
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- 54:36Speaker 5: no matter how many chicks we have, we're always and
- 54:39Speaker 5: we're chicks talking sports. We talk a little bit. This week.
- 54:43Speaker 5: We talked a little bit nil, a little bit of college,
- 54:46Speaker 5: a little bit of football. We had heard about Pete Rose,
- 54:51Speaker 5: so we you know, dedicated a little bit to Pete.
- 54:54Speaker 5: I think we're going to delve more into the nil
- 54:57Speaker 5: situation when we were talking about the un quarterback that
- 55:02Speaker 5: you left the program because he didn't get what he
- 55:05Speaker 5: supposedly was promised. So I think we're going to talk
- 55:07Speaker 5: a little bit more about that. So anyone that's interested
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- 55:18Speaker 1: And also on next week's edition of one hundred on
- 55:22Speaker 1: Inside the Pics, and I had an opportunity to ask
- 55:25Speaker 1: a FAU football coach, Tom Herman about the transfer portal,
- 55:28Speaker 1: so stay with us for that one. He talks about
- 55:31Speaker 1: how the transfer portals helped them out. Obviously, when you're
- 55:33Speaker 1: a mid major compared to a major, it affects you
- 55:37Speaker 1: differently because the nil resources and so forth. The one
- 55:41Speaker 1: thing that a mid major can offer players is at
- 55:44Speaker 1: least the opportunity to play a little bit quicker. But
- 55:46Speaker 1: that's just the way this whole NCAA business works out.
- 55:49Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one thing. I continue to have
- 55:52Speaker 1: a great run with the Miami Hurricanes as we really
- 55:54Speaker 1: enjoy going to those games as often as we can.
- 55:57Speaker 1: So there are a great media distribution parent we have
- 55:59Speaker 1: a lot of them. I just wanted to make those
- 56:01Speaker 1: final references as well. So but that's that. That doesn't
- 56:04Speaker 1: conclude this edition of the Sports Change on behalf of
- 56:07Speaker 1: Candy Aplin, George Iicorn, J. B Ellis. My name is
- 56:10Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, rot the Motor City Man. Well, thank you
- 56:12Speaker 1: for joining us, and we'll see you next week at
- 56:14Speaker 1: this time. Good night, everybody, Every great weekend.