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Gardening Resolutions For The New Year · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, and more. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we'll discuss anything that has to do with growing plants
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, well look who's back folks. Good morning, good evening,
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  Speaker 2: good afternoon, Garden America. I think that's yeah, says right here,
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  Speaker 2: Garden America. Nothing's changed. Happy new year. We are into
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. John Magnasco is back. I'm back, I'm
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  Speaker 2: Brian Maine. John's phone is feeding back. But hey, that's
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  Speaker 2: a great way to start the new year. Tiger Palafox, John, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't want you to miss the old
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  Speaker 3: year that much, so I don't think anybody heard that
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  Speaker 3: really really, but I used to do that with my computer.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we are here sitting in the studio twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: HOPEFU you had a good holiday season. Been a minute, it.
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  Speaker 3: Has, hasn't it? You know what I miss I miss
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  Speaker 3: missed me? I know that. Oh of course I miss
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  Speaker 3: both of you guys. But what what used to happen
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen anymore is writing the wrong year on checks.
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  Speaker 3: You know what that is? Yeah? Yeah, because everybody wrote
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  Speaker 3: checks and it took like two or three weeks before
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  Speaker 3: you started getting the right year.
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  Speaker 4: Just think about all those things that you used to
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  Speaker 4: keep track of so much that you have no clue
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  Speaker 4: of anymore. Like the date is one of those things.
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  Speaker 4: Like you don't write the date very often anymore, and
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  Speaker 4: your phone has it, so you don't wake up in
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  Speaker 4: the morning and think today is January.
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  Speaker 2: Everywhere you look fief days, the date in the time
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  Speaker 2: is right there. Yeah, no matter where you want to know, no,
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  Speaker 2: like there's no real reason for you to retain that knowledge.
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  Speaker 3: I have to admit, though, that I just storted a calendar. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because I like calendar still. I got over my dead calendar. Those.
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  Speaker 3: I have to have the squares so I can write it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can't use the one on the phone. I know
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  Speaker 3: it's there.
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  Speaker 2: I know if you go shopping for whatever, I know
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  Speaker 2: whether I'm grocery shopping or home deeople whatever. I put
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  Speaker 2: my list in my phone Dana's old school. My wife
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  Speaker 2: Dan old school. I go to write it down on
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  Speaker 2: a piece of paper with a pen. We go to
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  Speaker 2: the store. When you buy something, she checks it off
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, just put in your phone it's right there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I want to even have they even have like a
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  Speaker 4: thing in your phone that lets you write the notes
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  Speaker 4: and then check them off as you do them.
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  Speaker 3: Right, wow, you know Shandon's sent I do the shopping.
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  Speaker 3: She sends me a list. Right, I opened the list.
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  Speaker 3: The first item on the list is at the top
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  Speaker 3: in bold.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because it's like the title, it's you think
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  Speaker 4: that's the most important thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, I never get that. She'll say, where's the chicken?
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  Speaker 3: It was it bold? At I said, I didn't. I
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  Speaker 3: got everything else, you know. Uh, thanks for all the
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  Speaker 3: the New Year's wishes from our listeners all over the world. Right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I went. We have our our buddy in Costa Rica
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  Speaker 3: sent us a note. Right. We got one from Australia,
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  Speaker 3: one from Canada, one from uhstam our buddy in Pakistan.
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  Speaker 2: We've always been real big down Under, you know that, right,
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  Speaker 2: they've been big No down Under Australia. You're popular in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: So so you've always been big down Unders. What I'm
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, that's the term used, you know, down
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  Speaker 2: Under Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, going, I have no idea what you're
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  Speaker 3: even talking about, what I'm talking about. I know both
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  Speaker 3: sides of your comments right now.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah listening to Yeah, happy, happy to everyone
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  Speaker 4: and those who with about the country too.
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  Speaker 2: For the past couple of weeks, we weren't here. People
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  Speaker 2: active on our Facebook page, people active on the website.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate sharing photos.
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  Speaker 3: How much swet did you guys gain over the house?
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  Speaker 3: So much? So many cookies, so many trees. I was
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  Speaker 3: real careful food.
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  Speaker 2: We made a I found this online on the Billy
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  Speaker 2: Graham website. His wife Ruth had this, this recipe for
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  Speaker 2: a pumpkin pie cream cheese and and nutmeg and cinnamon.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, We've got to make this, and we
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  Speaker 2: did and it was good. It was better than advertised.
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  Speaker 2: Did you and you know what very little sugar?
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  Speaker 3: Did you buy a crust or did you make we
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  Speaker 3: bought We bought a crust, but did you use a
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  Speaker 3: gram cracker? We had to cook it. We cooked it.
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  Speaker 2: Actually it wasn't It wasn't pre cooked or pre made,
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  Speaker 2: so it was scratch. Oh wow, okay, and it came
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  Speaker 2: out really good.
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  Speaker 3: So speaking of that, you know what I learned to
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  Speaker 3: make sugar is you know, one of our holiday traditions
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  Speaker 3: is we always make homemade ravioli. And this year my
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  Speaker 3: wife trying to make it's it's the whole thing to
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  Speaker 3: do ravioli. It takes two days, right, because you have
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  Speaker 3: to make the pasta. Then you got to make the philly, right,
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  Speaker 3: you got to get.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of your ingredients are in there and sew
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  Speaker 2: it back up again. It's a whole yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 2: whole process.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's there's a press that you do that in.
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  Speaker 3: But my wife tried using her mixer. You know it's
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  Speaker 3: got all these attachments and things on it, and it
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  Speaker 3: made the pasta do too sticky. Oh yeah, So she
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  Speaker 3: added flour and and nothing was working. It was just
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  Speaker 3: coming out sticky. And my wife says, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: my son Jesse was there helping, and she goes, I
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  Speaker 3: can't do anymore. That's it. I've had enough. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: well what are we going to do? And she goes,
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  Speaker 3: she goes, you got to make new pasta. Do and
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  Speaker 3: I go, We'll make it, and she goes, no, you
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  Speaker 3: made it. I said, all right, tell me what to
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  Speaker 3: do and she laid on the couch and said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, do this. Make a hole in the
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  Speaker 3: center of the flour, add two eggs and and then
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  Speaker 3: I got to use the pasta maker and run it
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  Speaker 3: through through there and it was fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it takes a little while to get to
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  Speaker 2: hang it. How did you do it so it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: sticky the second time around? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what the prof was. Yeah. Everything was
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  Speaker 3: done by hand instead of putting it in a so
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  Speaker 3: the mixer is what creates the mix, right, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: doing it by hand came out perfect.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's funny about that is there was a
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  Speaker 4: show recently, I can't remember what streaming surf it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was on and something about cooking with chemistry or
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  Speaker 4: something of that sort of title. But I mean the
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  Speaker 4: show had a whole storyline, but the idea that your
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  Speaker 4: whether you melt butter or whether you use cold butter,
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  Speaker 4: or whether you add wet ingredients to the dry ingredients
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  Speaker 4: at these certain times can change your whole meal all together.
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  Speaker 4: Is really interesting because you know with pasta, like you say, like,
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  Speaker 4: there's a process and if you don't follow that process,
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  Speaker 4: it could be stick, or it could be dry, or
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  Speaker 4: you know, certain things can happen, and it's all because
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  Speaker 4: of the chemistry of the foods working together that create
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  Speaker 4: some of those those issues, like could be starchy or
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  Speaker 4: whatever it is. It's it's fascinating that somebody, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we get fascinated by who was the
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  Speaker 4: first person that din avocado, cut it open and then
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  Speaker 4: ate it because it was probably like an apple, because like,
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  Speaker 4: let's be real, when you pick an avocado off a tree,
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  Speaker 4: it's never really always right the first time.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and then somebody's like, well if we wait
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  Speaker 3: a little longer, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, so what you're talking about, it's all trial and error.
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  Speaker 2: It could be one hundred times over before they go,
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  Speaker 2: ah ah, this is what we did wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I thought we would do today
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  Speaker 3: that would be kind of fun for our listeners is
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  Speaker 3: let us know what's some of your New Year's gardening resolutions? So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what do you want to do resolution? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what do you want to do this year? Or what
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  Speaker 3: do you want to avoid doing that you did last year.
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  Speaker 3: We might share some of ours, but let us know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so start thinking about that, share him in the chat,
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  Speaker 4: and then we can start bringing them on on the show.
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  Speaker 2: As we see the lists and those of you on
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  Speaker 2: show live. I mean, we appreciate you listening on biz Talk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go to our wave a web page, don't we John,
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  Speaker 2: or a Facebook page or something going on. Go to
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  Speaker 2: our I'm kidding, go to our Facebook page. Every Saturday morning,
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  Speaker 2: eight o'clock on the West Coast eleven o'clock Eastern time zone.
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  Speaker 2: be part of the chat and you can hear us
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  Speaker 2: live and take part and see some great visuals.
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  Speaker 3: That's where about visuals this year too, a lot more.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're on biz talk also, you can always
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  Speaker 4: go to our Facebook and send us a message. If
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  Speaker 4: you's a problem to watch the show on an answer,
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  Speaker 4: we can share it in the next week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: And John at Gardinamerica dot com still works for all
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  Speaker 2: those questions and comments and and tidbits of information that
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  Speaker 2: you're yearning for. We're going to yearn more questions so much,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna hear it. I want to hearn more this year.
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  Speaker 3: Starts in the subject John, I'm yearning. Yeah, Hey, I
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  Speaker 3: got this information from one of our actually from Lisa,
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  Speaker 3: are one of our faithful listeners in reading, and she
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  Speaker 3: pre ordered an item. And I wanted to know if
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  Speaker 3: you were going to have these at your store, Tiger,
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  Speaker 3: because I talked to my wife about it. She says, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that sounds like it would be cool. The firefly petunia.
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  Speaker 3: Are you guys going to carry those? I am not
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  Speaker 3: familiar with it. Okay, it almost sounds unbelievable, Brian, look
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  Speaker 3: at Can you post a picture? Yeah, let's post a picture,
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  Speaker 3: So go ahead. You know what's unique about the fire
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  Speaker 3: fly petunia, Brian? It does when you touch it, it
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  Speaker 3: glows at night. It lights up at night. That is,
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  Speaker 3: it's been genetically engineered, genetically modified to glow at night.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Do you remember the story a few years
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  Speaker 3: ago where they've been trying to work with Christmas trees
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  Speaker 3: to get them to light up. Yes, this is I
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  Speaker 3: guess part of that research. And I think Lisa told
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  Speaker 3: me that she ordered hers on Wayside Gardens. Now thirty
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  Speaker 3: dollars is kind of expensive for a petunia. Forty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: This is what it's on the light Bio website. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but you're paying for all that genetic engineering. That's the beauty.
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  Speaker 3: It just sounds interesting. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Three for forty dollars you get three small firefly petunias
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  Speaker 4: in a forty five million meter plantable paper pos.
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  Speaker 3: Is there good? Are there good images on there that
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  Speaker 3: we can share?
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  Speaker 2: I am, I'm working on perfect. Hey, we're close to
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  Speaker 2: a break. I know we have to get to the
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  Speaker 2: quote of the week and all sorts of by the
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  Speaker 2: business it is. I was gonna say open phones. That
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  Speaker 2: is so yesteryear. No, we are no guest today. We
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  Speaker 2: are the guests. So whatever's on your mind here, Facebook Live, questions, comments,
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  Speaker 2: shoot them to us. And again I'm Brian Maine, John
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  Speaker 2: Begnasco Tucket, Pello Fox. Welcoming those twenty twenty five to
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  Speaker 2: BIS Talk Radio. Welcome to the show. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: take a break for you BIS Talk Radio back after
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  Speaker 2: these messages.
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  Speaker 3: Do stay with us.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: We are back from the break, a very quick break
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook Live. Those on Bistalk Radio. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: supporting our listeners or advertisers and those who do support
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  Speaker 2: Garden America as we venture into a new year. Twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. Quote of the week, Brian, The quote of
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  Speaker 2: the week is from hell Borland, who is a garden
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  Speaker 2: writer that we've quoted before, sure, and he said that
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  Speaker 2: year's end is neither an end nor a beginning, but
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  Speaker 2: a going on with all the wisdom that experience can
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  Speaker 2: instill in us. Always moving forward, right yep, finish the
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  Speaker 2: race strong. What was your favorite article in the newsletter
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  Speaker 2: this week?
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  Speaker 3: Brian, I would say my favorite article was, well, the
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  Speaker 3: one that was actually attached to the picture that we
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  Speaker 3: talked to me.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, especially now that I've learned how you're
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  Speaker 2: doing that, because I'm going to play around with that
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  Speaker 2: appen when you send me the link I thought you
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  Speaker 2: were going to ask me like highlights of articles last
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  Speaker 2: year at twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Four, Well, you can comment on that whenever you want.
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  Speaker 2: I save all the newsletters in a folder, do you Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Because you know why I like to harken back. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a harkening kind of guy. I will harken back now
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  Speaker 2: and then after.
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  Speaker 3: I yearn.
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  Speaker 4: I'm stuck on that vir so I shared a link
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  Speaker 4: to Oh there it is, okay, I see, yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: it's to the actual website for the product, and so
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  Speaker 4: they can go on there and see it's a white petunia,
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  Speaker 4: which is really kind of, you know, pretty neat.
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  Speaker 3: But then the leaves, the leaves are the ones that
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  Speaker 3: light up, right, I didn't read I think it is.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right though from the pictures. But so Lisa,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, heard us talking about this and said
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  Speaker 3: she got fifteen percent off. Yeah, so that's why she
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  Speaker 3: got a deal.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: But do you did you look into it? John?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: Is it you know, is it something that like in
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  Speaker 4: the early evening glows because the sunset and it charged
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  Speaker 4: it like a like a glow in the dark sticker
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  Speaker 4: or does it stay glowing all night because the actual
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  Speaker 4: bioluminescence in the plant?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of chemistry is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not really positive, but I believe it is
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  Speaker 3: from the like the bioluminescence that's in plankton. I know
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  Speaker 3: that's what they were working.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, that makes sense, so that you have to
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  Speaker 2: disturb it though, in order for it to glow.
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  Speaker 3: To kick to kick up all them with molecules or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Like bioluminescence. You know, the reason why you see it
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  Speaker 4: in the waves is because it's constantly stirring. Or if
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  Speaker 4: a boat goes through the ocean, you'll see the trail
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  Speaker 4: of bioluminescence the ocean. Ocean doesn't just low by itself.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm wondering, like what anyway, I think that's part
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  Speaker 3: of it. It's not solar or you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like well, like the glow in the dark sticker,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like you put a light on it glows,
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  Speaker 4: but then it fades over time.
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  Speaker 2: But wait a second, if I was going to research this, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what comes to mind and correct me if
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  Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But tomato hornworms don't they glow in the
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  Speaker 2: dark with.
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  Speaker 3: A with a black light, right, with a black light, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to have a black light, but you don't need a
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  Speaker 3: black light if there's still something going on to deal
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  Speaker 3: with there's something going on. But if you have a
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  Speaker 3: black light, A lot of things glow in the dark,
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  Speaker 3: like your clothes, right, it depends on the color what
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  Speaker 3: you're wearing obviously, Yeah, But I mean, like if you've
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  Speaker 3: got something white that's been washed with what is it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it bleach or something makes it glow? Are you
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  Speaker 3: familiar with luminol? Luminol sounds familiar. Use lumino.
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  Speaker 2: When they go to a crime scene, they turn the
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  Speaker 2: lights off, and then they turn the light on and
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  Speaker 2: they can see blood. If somebody is trying to do
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  Speaker 2: a good job cleaning up a messy scene, they can
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  Speaker 2: still find the blood and there's still a lot of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I used to know someone that would when they
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  Speaker 3: checked in a hotel, would use one of those signs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shows up a lot of things. Hey, we caught
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  Speaker 2: up on any comments and questions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a lot of people talking about some
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  Speaker 3: of their resolutions. John and Newport Beach says that his
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  Speaker 3: number one resolution is not too over water. That's a
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  Speaker 3: very good resolution. You know, that's something I've my whole
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  Speaker 3: life I have problem with. I don't I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I rarely would have a plant dye from neglect or underwater.
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  Speaker 3: Good over watering. But yeah, I've wrought it.
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  Speaker 2: That's a natural instinct, right, give it some water. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I love about the weather we've had. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds so dramatic dense fog advisory for
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  Speaker 2: the script's ranch area last couple of weeks. So I
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  Speaker 2: go out all the plants. I watered maybe a week,
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  Speaker 2: week and a half ago, maybe two weeks. Everything's still moist,
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  Speaker 2: everything's doing well. Have not had to bring out the hose.
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  Speaker 2: So why Tiger and I love this time of year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they can go yeah, so so long without having
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  Speaker 3: to be on.
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  Speaker 2: T keep an eye on it, obviously to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that there's no telltale signs of death.
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  Speaker 3: This is a good time of here, though, to kill
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  Speaker 3: something from overwatering, because, as you're saying, it's just not
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  Speaker 3: going to dry out. You know, the days are shorter too,
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  Speaker 3: though they are getting longer now. Yeah, but it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a long process. Missed you at the Winter Solstice party.
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  Speaker 3: I came late. Really, I didn't see you. I was
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: there till midnight.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I tiding get there till one fifteen. That's why stay
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: till four. But I don't think it was as good
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: as previous years.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: John wants to know if those moisture meters that you
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: stick in the soil are reliable. I would say yes
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: and no, depends on what you know. You're right, but
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the I think if you have to rely on a
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: moisture meter that it's you already have a problem. Yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: because you just need you know, I can look at
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I can walk by a plant. We don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: have that many indoor plants, but the few we do have,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: you know, my wife takes care of and I can
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: walk by a plant and I go, you know that
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: plant needs water. Yeah, because you can look at the leaf. Absolutely,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you know, the leaf loses some of its shine, some
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: of its glow, It wilts a little bit, and you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: your con trouble is when it loses its luster, then
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: you got a problem. If you if you touch the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: soil with your finger and it feels damp at all,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you don't need to water. And the general rule of
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: thumb is if you're not sure whether the plant needs water,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: don't because it's more likely to come back from from
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: uh being underwater than it is O.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, this is a very bad time of
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the year for hydrangels. Right, Well, it's not bad. They
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: just go dorm but well, that's basically what I'm saying
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is mine looks mine's dormant, but it almost looks like death.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it's supposed to just be stick.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: So here's my point. My point is for those people wondering,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: you know, don't don't worry. Certain plants are supposed to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: look that way.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: And then here's the hard thing about our mild temperature areas.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And John probably goes through this every year with his roses.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Is in southern California. We don't always go dormant. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the plants do look like death they have. I'm dealing
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: with this customer right now in del Mar. She's in
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: del Mar. She's got these iceberg roses planted against her house. Okay,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: so and the house has a big balcony okay, and
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: she's frustrated because they're plagued with mildew. They're not looking healthy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: There's there, the blooms are not doing well. And I'm like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: there's not a lot I can do for you. I mean,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: number one, this plant should be going dormant, so anything
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I do fertilized treat you're not going to see results.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: In number two, it might even be detrimental to a degree.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's like you push out growth when it shouldn't.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: And then number two, I go this area that you have,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I'm planted in aren't even conducive to the plant, like
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: a rose should not be planted in the shade against
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: your house. Dense foliage growing within itself. So you're you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: these problems are all happy.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You gonna take a quick break. We're gonna we're gonna
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: pick up on this being this time of the year,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: especially in San Diego.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Got more problems after the break.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: We do, huh So again, thank you for tuning in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. We're going to take a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: quick break for our friends on bistalk Radio. This is
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Garden American.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Checking out Facebook people. We are back within five seconds
• 20:20
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• 20:28
  Speaker 2: dormant talk and as you mentioned, Tiger, a great point
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: here in San Diego, Southern California, warm weather plants are
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: supposed to go dormant, but a lot of times, yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: they just don't. They don't because of the weather, because
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: of the heat and the changing of the temperatures.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: And so this customer has these roses in these areas,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: which are not really great to have these roses in
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: these area to begin with. And then she's comparing them
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: to iceberg roses on her complex property that are in
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: full sun, good airflow and all of that kind of stuff,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: and they are looking good right now, planted in the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: proper place, right and they you know, so she's like,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: she's frustrated. I go, I get your frustration, but there's
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: a lot of things happening here. And then again southern California,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: when things don't go dormant and then you know, like
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: John's plants will go dormant way before del Mar plants
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: will go dorm it, and that'll be different than you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Mission Valley.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like real estate location, location location.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: So it's tough here in southern California because we don't
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: have the blatant, you know, seasons that other places do.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: There's different things that cause dormancy. One would be day length,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: which will be the same whether you're on the coast
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: or inland. Another is cold, which will be more effective,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: or that it'll be colder inland than it is on
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the coast. So you have that and then the other
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: is is fertilizing, which you can control in both locations.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: And then the last that I can think of would
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: be let you know, reduce water and let a plant
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: rather than deadhead because you're dead heading all year, let
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: it go to seat. So once the rose sets hips,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: it goes Okay, I'm done. I'm going to take a rest,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: smoke a cigarette. I'll wait till next s breed, right yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: so yeah, but I mean, you know, yeah, I have
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm cutting cutting back some of the roses
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that I have in pots now and others that I
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: had fertilized earlier in the year, like say, I think
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it was August. I maybe gave him a good good
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: fertilizing August or September. Some of those are growing and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: pluming right now, and it's wonderful. But then to compare
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that one to the other one that's not is unfair, right, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: like why why is this one not doing well? You know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I we didn't quite finish our moisture meter talk, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I had meant to do this, but you know, Paula
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: mentions that she uses one on houseplants and it can
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: be effective, you know, and she does make a good
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: point she says, you know, sometimes it feels dry on top,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: but it's wet down below, right, Yeah, so so yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I guess what I wanted to finish saying was it's
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: all right to use one of those moisture meters on
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: houseplants like that. But then Tanya says that she tries
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: using them on cactus and succulents and it doesn't work.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And part of the reason is because of the soil,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the type of soil that you're using. It's not really soil,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: it's a loose, gritty material, and so it's probably not
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: good for that. You know, almost would probably always say dry. Right,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: So the moisture meter for like a cactus in succulent mix, yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it might tell you that it needs water when it
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: really doesn't. Yeah, it'd always be the fact that they
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: retain worsture. Anyway, In my Cactus and Succulent book, Brian
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I mentioned just putting a beach pebble on your cactus,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: are succulent in the pot and not on the on
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the soil, not on yours, not on the beach pebble, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: you know those black beach pebbles, And if you pick
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: that up and look at the underside of it. If
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the underside is moist, it doesn't need water, and you
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: can use that as a moisture meter. When that's dry,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: completely dry, you can water if you want. But again,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: the thing uses is one of those black ones. Yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: get right. The top will be gray and dry. You
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: look underneath, it'll be a black right. Yeah. I love
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: having Tiger as an interpreter. Conclusion, what John is telling you? Yeah, no, no,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that's I appreciate that because he does listen to what
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I say. Just and he thinks of his mind. Here's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: how people would understand that. So how are we doing?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: We are we caught up? But we miss anybody well.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Leonara says that her resolution might be negative, but she
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: already sees no rain and tomatoes are growing and she's
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: worried about a potential drought. Mm hmm. You know I
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: would say, Leonard, don't worry. Yeah, no, where is she
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: getting the idea that there might be don't be happy? Well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: what's the problem of a druk? Where would you get
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the potential drought? I mean, that's all you ever hear?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: You have? We just had two years of the heaviest
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: strain I can remember in California and in they're talking,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: you know, we have to conserve water.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it's you know, when there
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: is a drought. Obviously, we don't want to just have
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: water out of our hose running down the street. But
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: if if you're growing your plants properly and you're not
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: just wasting water, yeah, there's nothing more you can do
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: water when you need to walk, Yeah, and you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: and then that's the other thing too, is and they went,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: you know, the water authority went through this whole thing
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: because they started saying, okay, everybody needs to remove lawns,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: they need to remove their landscape and all this stuff.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Right that was maybe like ten years ago, fifteen years ago.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: They started touting all that, and so everybody did and
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: they put in synthetic turf, and they put in gravel
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: and all this other stuff. And we looked like Arizona
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and those companies loved it, and they loved it. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: then they found the problem was is now we started
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: actually superheating our homes and our neighborhoods and everything else,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and like wait a minute, whait wait, wait, we need
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: to tell people not just do that, but also plant
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: with you know, plants that maybe don't require a lot
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: of water, or we still need trees, we still need
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: plants because those are also beneficial to us by cooling
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: our areas, providing shade, softening, you know, the evaporation of soil,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: increasing soil life. Because that was the other thing too,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: is we had all kinds of runoff, you know, because
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: we everybody putting gravel and everything, and next thing, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: we have all this runoff, which is another problem in it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Have you been to the back of the building here,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: there's a beautiful grass area. Yeah, wonderful. I take a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: walk through or three times a day. Smells good, freshly,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: mode shoes off, go through it. Yeah you know, I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: set up a sprinkler, run through that. But the lawn
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: looks really good.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have a tendency to be cynical,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: but I would say, yeah, you know, you know, you're
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: so funny stuff. But I would say a general rule
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of thumb is that any recommendation you get from the government,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: either federal or local state, regarding the environment, the opposite
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: is probably the best course to take. I would agree. Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you know, getting rid of your lawns was to me,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: was one of the stupidest things like Tiger's saying that. Yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: it makes no sense, especially when you think of the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: amount of water that's used for residential use in the state.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It's a very small percent that's total residential use, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: then a smaller percent of that that goes to the landscape. Yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: so if we had no landscapes whatsoever, you know, you
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: could maybe save two to three percent of water. Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: so what's the point. Yeah, anyway, we don't want to
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: start the year off on a negative note, so we'll
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: just forget that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I mean, you know, growing tomatoes,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: growing tomatoes, you know, being that is one thing you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: going into a dry winter is you know, you have
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: this thing you're going to start plants. And this is
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the challenge that people do when they start them outside
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: or in their beds, is you know, it's tough. It's
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: much easier to start plants inside, control the environment a
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: little bit better, and move them out when you know
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: that they're ready, because it's tough starting plants outside because
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: you're it could be hot, it could be cold, it
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: could be wet, it could be dry.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I just moved outside was do you
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: remember I think it was maybe a month ago. Now,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: we had the show where I brought in the rose cuttings. Yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the rose cuttings. One of those is it got so
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: big and full of roots that I put it outside
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: in a one gallon container.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: No.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Now, now the last time you did that, you did
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: you moved some outside and put them straight.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Into one gallery. And then you also had a group
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: that you put into a four inch or something liners
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: and then so to see if it made a different.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: How are they all doing They're all doing this thing
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: all the same? Yeah? Okay? Cool? And now though going
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: that was was that in December or was that in
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: November that you did that? This first part of the December?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, So now we're in January a little cooler. Do
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: you think you're seeing the same results?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, but we are. We are in a weird Yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: it's beautiful right now. So well it's not cold. You know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I remember my days in the retail gardens center. This
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: is the time yere people come in and they go,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I need to buy some bogan va, some hibiscus marigolds. Yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: and you know it's going to get cool, yes, Southern California.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: It's break timing, all right, Oh, all right, I know
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: we come back after the break, Brian.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Keeping our train of thought here on Garden America and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: those on Facebook Live. Have a lot of conversations back
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and forth between our viewers and listeners.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Which have some resolutions will go after the break.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: We bring people together. We're going to take a break
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: for BizTalk Radio. Brian Main, John Begnasco, Tiger Palafox. Here
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: it is Garden America first show of twenty twenty five.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say this one time and after Monday
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: no more.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Happy New Year from Garden America.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
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• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Tiger the books of those on BIS Talk Radio. We
• 31:23
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• 31:26
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• 31:28
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• 31:30
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• 31:33
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• 31:37
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• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and every week. Back to the resolutions, John, we discussed
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: pride to the break.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Carlyn Huntington Beach has a good resolution. Her resolution is
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: not to give a beautiful don't give up that's our
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: gardening resolution. Just keep trying.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: We wasn't one of our rules. Once until you've killed
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: a plant three times, don't say you can't grow it. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a hefty project I'm going to take
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: on this year, which is kind of like not I
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: wouldn't say my resolution, but it is. My goal is
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: so behind our new poolhouse that we built, I was slow.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: It's all done. It's all done.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we have this sloped area and I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: need to build some retaining walls and terrace it a
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: little bit and you know, plant it out. And that
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: is a goal that I have for this year by yourself. Yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: probably is to get that done in the next twelve months.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes. It's going to be a project.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Well, realistically, in twelve months, have you figured out how
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: much time you'd have to dedicate in terms of twice
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a week, three times a week, a little bit every day.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: It's not so much the time, it's going to be
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: more the just your attitude. Yeah, really, you know, just
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you know, the added of getting it done and all that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be very hard.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: You look at it as kind of a pain. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: wish it didn't have to do it? Or is there
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a tinge of excitement that boy, this is going to
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: be great once you.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Know, I want to do it, Okay, I want to
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: do it. Yeah, so I'm excited. But you know, with
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the kids and with stuff, I mean just finding the
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: free time in the week.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Kids still live in the house with you guys, I know, right,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you would think by nine years old they would move
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: off on their own.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Well, no, Sotashie's how old? Fourteen case she should be
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: out on her own with a job, and the should
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: at least be engaged.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: And my wife was only two years older, Yeah exactlysha
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Isaac's nine.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's he contributing? I know that, so I ask
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: him every day at least get a job? Yeah something?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Paper rout kids have paper routes anymore? No, I don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: think you know what that is? Such a lot, that is.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I remember ten years old, getting up, you know, four
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning folding papers that deliver them to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a buddy's garage. She had a big garage, and we'd
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: go out. You did do a paper, I did, absolutely,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I never did a pain and then go home, take
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: a shower and go to school.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It was fun.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I remember one time, though, this is terrible, there was
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a local paper in Pacific Beach called The Sentinel. It
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't a big paper, but it was community oriented. So
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: at the end of the month, you would meet at
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: an elementary school or someplace in the district manager. You
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: turn in your money. Then he'd give you a check
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: or the money for the month. Right, you turn in,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: You would turn in your money. Well you got you collected?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, then you would collect from all your subscribers.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: He would give you back something.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll never forget his name. His last name was Pocklington.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And one month I got six dollars and fifty cents
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and I said, I'm done. Yeah that No, what are
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Well? You know the cost and this and that and everything.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, do you know how much you gave him?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I probably gave him probably at that point.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is back in the sixties, maybe fifty sixty bucks.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you got back is what you got? That's fair.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I didn't think so, but anyway, million Pom O'Brien. Yes.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: She says that her New year resolution is to stop
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: buying plants because she has so many. Actually, she said
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it was her New Year's resolution. She broke it yesterday.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I don't see how that's possible. She got too.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: The only thing that should limit you to buying plants
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: or any material like that is space.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's why she made the resolution.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So what plants are you tired of taking care
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of that you could give to somebody or you know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: look at it that way.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: You can't you grow up and move out? You know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: how often do you give plants to anyone? People upstairs?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Now?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And then yeah? Really? Yeah? You know?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: So that is something funny is when I go to
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: a customer's house and they talk about changing things up.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll look at areas and they'll have a you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: pittismorlam Wheeler's Dwarf or some star jasmine or you just
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: real basic stuff and not that it's bad, it's just
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: kind of more basic and they want to spruce things up,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: and I'll say, well, you know, we got to pull
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: these out and make room for something new, and instantly
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you know, like I don't know, they've
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: been there, and I don't want to. I don't want
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: to just kill it's looking good or it's doing okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: and I go, but that's the only way you're gonna
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: have to get something new. That's the only way we're
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: gonna be able to freshen up the look or you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: and then the other thing too, is that's the only
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: way I'm going to achieve your landscape goals because they'll
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: bring me a picture and they'll want a Mediterranean garden,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: or they'll want a tropical garden, or you know, they'll
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: want a California native garden.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And you know, I was at someone's house and what
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: was it. It was king palms.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: They had king palms in their backyard and they wanted
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: a more California native landscape. And I was like, okay,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: no problem, will we'll do this with this and I'm
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: gonna and I'm gonna pull these out and they were
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: looking beautiful and they're like why you know, because I'm like, you.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Want this look. If I leave these, you're always.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Going to have this this doesn't fit look, because you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: that's like wearing a Hawaiian T shirt with dressed slacks.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't work.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I've seen it done, but you're right, it doesn't work. Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, it's like it's like, this is
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: not a place. What did your photoshop this into this picture? Yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: it doesn't belong here. But on the other on the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: other side of the coin, that can understand, you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it's like.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't nothing wrong with it. You know, it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: been there forever. Yeah, so so could you You got
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to make rooms sometimes? Who was it Lily who just
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: said about the buying plants?
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Millie, Milly Milli and the poem?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so Millie, like, you know, make some room. So
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: here's what's not like what Brian just said, what's not
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: working for you anymore in your yard?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Take it out.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Here's something I have these two king poms. I want
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to keep them.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: What you know, Milli has a good collect excuse me, Brian,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: but she's got a good collection of plants too. It's
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: not just like petunias and marria. She's got a lot
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: of unusual plants.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Did Does customer have a theme around the already existing
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: king palms?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like it backs up to it. It works a canyon,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: so it's already very native looking.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: So it works.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Could is there a way to change the look that
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: would still incorporate the King palms that are there.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: No, it's because king poms are not native and they're
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: very tropical. This isn't like a Mediterranean fan palm or
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: a pie. I could work with a Pygmy day palm
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: or a Mediterranean fan because they actually do look a
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: little bit more native.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But king palm, No, Yeah, it doesn't work.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: They planted. Somebody planted them obviously at some point in time.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have problems with that, just because you
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: mentioned king palms, and they're really desirable poems. They are,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: they are, and they're and they don't do that well
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: inland either, do much better on the coast.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: The house is in Pacific Beach, so it would be
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: like if you said you had kenty as you were
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: going to pull out.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just like, I don't know. We are
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: getting very close to or break. We've got news coming
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: up for BIS Talk Radio. Hey, those on Facebook Live
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: people back chatting with one another as we head into
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the new year. Actually we're in the new year, twenty
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: twenty five. It is always good to reconnect. So here's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: what's happening at Bistalk Radio. News coming up, and we've
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: got a small break ahead. We're back at six minutes
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: after on Bistalk Radio. For those on the Facebook Live
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: just hang in there. We'll come back even sooner. It
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: has Garden America our first show of twenty twenty five.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Brian Main, John Beg Nasco, Tugie Pella Fox. We're coming
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: back very shortly.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Stay with us. We are back.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It is our two for Bistalk Radio. One Long Can
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You was fantastic fun show here on Facebook Live. It
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: is that time when we get back to your resolutions,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: your questions, your comments here on Facebook Live.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: John Yeah, our friend Lilah and Powae said that her
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: resolution is to get help, to get help boy, get
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: in line.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: For that one, she came to the realization she can't
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: do it by herself anymore. You know, I've come to
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: that realization too. So far, I haven't gotten the help
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I need, but I'm thinking more about it. You know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: you get to a certain age and I don't know
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: if it's supposed to happen this way, but it's like
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: one month you're fine, nothing has changed. In the next month,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: it's like where am I? Well, you went through this
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: when you were a kid between one and six, didn't
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: you like, well, that's just because I didn't. I didn't
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: understand cause and effect until I was six. Yeah, right, Well,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: when you don't know where you are, what's better the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: cause of it? No, my memory is getting so bad.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's just really, you know what, mine is getting better.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. The names I remember, the places we build,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the things I see that when I was younger, Oh.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I remember all that. I'm just remembering, like, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I'll be working out in the garden and say, oh,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I got to go get a big potting soil, and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: you know, which is one hundred feet away, and halfway there,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I forget where I'm going. You know why, because you
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: have too many things going on all at once in
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: your brand.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, right, That's what I was hoping,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: because you're thinking about the potting soil, but in the meantime,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: you're thinking about probably a dozen things at the same time.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Tonight tomorrow, Shannon got to do this the kids, And
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: then that's true.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You know, Hey, look, I can remember being in high
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: school walking into a room and forgetting why I went
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: You know, we all do that. You know why am
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I in here?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And then you start to wonder. Oh my gosh, really,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: do you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Do you have a.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Comment that you're going to mention John? Did you or
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: did you forget? Because there's a there's a subject that
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: when you do years and then I'll do mine. Okay, Well,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Veronica said that she got three plumeria cuttings for Christmas
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and she wants to know what to do with them,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: especially this time of the year, especially at this time
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: of the year. The water right, right, So what I
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: would do in Tiger You might have some ideas too,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: but I would put them in either cactus mix or
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: a fast draining soil like fifty percent pearl lighte with
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: potting soil. I would probably moisten the soil first and
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: then let it dry out for a day or two.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Then I would put the cuttings in that pot and
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: with a steak because there's no route. Yeah yeah, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: they'll fall over easily. But then you don't need any
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: more water, I would say.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And the pearl light to make sure it's draining right.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Probably till spring, right, yeah, yeah, you don't want it
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to hold moisture because the cuttings will if they're cold
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: and wet.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Look, it has been so cold and damp and fog
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: lately that my plumeria the pot it's still moist, it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not touching it, yeah, because it's retaining whatever morest
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: was there before winter.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: And then you know what John mentioned about staking it
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: or stabilizing the plant, because that's also critical because, like
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: he said, there's no roots on it right now, it
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: will begin to set roots as it warms up. And
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: the last thing you want is during that, you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: time where it's just setting those small roots, for it
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: to fall over because you break those roots and then
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: it just stresses and it resets the whole growth again
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: that you want to make sure that that plant is
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: good and stable because during the time that it's setting
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: roots is when you're probably going to have a little
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: bit of a rainstorm, little windstorm, and you just don't
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: want it to fall over and then break those roots
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: and then have to restart again.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And by the way, this might be a good time
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: to remind people this is a good subject. If you
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: go to our YouTube channel back in was it October
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: when we had the remote from the Primeria show in
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Ballabua Park all that information I'm sure we touched upon that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: If you can find that on YouTube. Just go to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: our YouTube page and click and go through all the
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: various shows and you'll find that and probably get an
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: answer to that and more.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, no, that's a good thing to do.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I would keep them out of the direct cold because
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you know John, you know, he when he planted his
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: on his slope, you know, you would think they're on
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a slope, so they're not. They're not at the base
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: of a hill, you know, so you get that cool
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: air just flowing downwards. Not only would I think that,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I did think, yeah, you know, you know, they were
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: in a well draining area, but that cold really snapped
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: those So when they're the new cuttings, keep them close
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: to the house, keep them protected. You'll be more likely
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: to be able to protect them in the case that
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: there is a cold snap and you don't have that
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: that frost problem or anything like that, depending on where
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: you're at.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Our friends in San Diego, Bill in a Lane, bought
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: the ac Infinity rooting. Yeah, that little greenhouse. Yeah yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: they said they had seen it in my garage. I
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: told them how well it worked, and they said, after
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: sixteen days they have thirty two out of forty of
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: their cutting still green and half of those have roots.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: How about that these are roses also, right right. Eline's
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: also the president of the Dahlia Society in San Diego.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's just so hard to root roses period,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: but especially in the winter, and to get that kind
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: of luck, it's it's amazing. So anyone who didn't hear
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: that show, if you go on Amazon just like ac
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Infinity rooting box. And I think the important thing is
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that heating pad that's on the bottom right, which you love.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I do, I do. I will put it on my
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: back when I go to bed.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I noticed you got some thanks jotting the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: root on your back, So thank you for answering that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: So one of the subjects I saw on the chat
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: right there was just the people, like you know, Johnan
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: mentioned asking for help or or getting some help in
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: the yard. And this is something that's a challenge for
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: some people, is allowing somebody to come in and help
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: them do things right. Like it's personal. It is, it is,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you know, whether it's clean up and weed or trim
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: things back. Sometimes it's a financial thing, you know, And
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I get that, you know, but but.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: You'll you'll make.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Your your life a lot better for you if you
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: do allow for some help and also allow for mistakes
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: to be made, meaning, you know, unless you're going to
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: be there, and I don't by no means you want
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: to hire a company and then micro manage them. But
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: you know, if you have seedlings coming up, tell them
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: don't weed this area, stay away from here.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, tape it off whatever.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: It may be.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: If you don't want them to prune something, you know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: make sure you convey that to them. Don't just assume
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: they're going to know, but but do allow them to
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: come in and do the things that you don't want
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: or need to do. If you've got a big lawn
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: and you know your weekend is dedicated to mowing the lawn,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: bring in a company, let them mow the lawn, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: you can now plant new flowers, weed the beds that
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you want, trim the plants that you want, do that
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff, because you know, a lot of the
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: discussion is, you know, knowing your limits of what you
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: can do in the garden, and that is a good
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: start is by allowing someone to come in and help
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: you out with those And you know, this is something
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: that it's a it's a funny topic. But you know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was, but they mentioned family
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: worked in the garden for me bringing my kids out,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: and I do that. I bring them out and teach
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: them how to plant things, teach them how to trim
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: things and stuff like that. But that is something that
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I feel like this generation needs, is they need the
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: they need the grandparents to work with them on doing
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: those because I feel my generation, the people my age,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: we were not big gardeners. I think, you know, the
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: the Boomer generation was taught by their parents how to garden,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: and then they didn't want to. So then you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: they knew it, but they didn't necessarily do it. So
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: then my generation lost out on that, carrying on the
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: torch of how to plant a garden, how to take
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: care of a garden. And now you know, the new
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: generation doesn't have anybody to teach them at and you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: like we're talking about the reason why I think a
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: lot of people why gardening shows are so popular is
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: because people just don't know how to do it, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: you're looking for the resources on how to find out how.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: To do it, you know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I it goes back in years before Strike started doing
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the show when I lived in Pacific Beach and I
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: would go to home deep when I would just buy
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: whatever I thought looked good. No, and I had had
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a four door cars, so I'm shoving stuff in the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: back seat, and I would go home and I would
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: plan it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Did I plan it in the right area?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, But you know what, ninety percent of
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: what I planted grew because I watered, I fertilized, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't overly protective, but kept an eye on it. Now,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: maybe it was just luck, but I got no training.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever told me, you know. And I did make
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: one mistake though. On my driveway had a driveway with
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: a little small area, probably like four feet wide, and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I went and bought four or five palms, queen palms,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: and I planted him in a row right next to
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: each other. Duh, what do you think is gonna happen
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: when those things start to grow and spread out?
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: You're gonna move?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly Three would have been enough at the time, But
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: just little things like that. So, yeah, Tiger, you're right.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I never got a kny, you know. And then one
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: time I started to learn a lot and Bruce Asakawa
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: told me, now you're dangerous because now you know a
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: And it was Bruce, the one who she used to
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: see about certain plants that they thrive on benignly nine neglect.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: You're right, and we on that note, we're going to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: take a break back after these messages on BISK talk media.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're back testing one, two, three hot mic. Yes, indeed,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: John got some more questions and topics to discuss.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Do it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Let's get one, isn't it?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I was uh a bill in a lane where we
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: were just chatting about their success with rooting cuttings and
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: they said that, you know, next they're going to try
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: it with Delia cuttings. But when they were at my house,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: this reminds me of a topic I wanted to bring
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: up with you, Tiger, because I don't know the answer
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: to this. But they saw a bottle of round up,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: and when rose growers see round up, yeah, it's like
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you know, you know that kills roses. It used to
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: be that you would spray round up and if the
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: wind was blowing at all, it would go right to
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: the roses and it would either kill them or really
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: just stort the foliage. Yeah. But anyway, they mentioned that,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: and I I am and you know, obviously I'm not
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: going to spray it on my roses and keep it away.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: It's for other areas of the property. But one of
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the things I was thinking, I looked at the label
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: to see what persone of glyphis state it was, and
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: it was a different chemical. And so I'm wondering why
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: they changed the chemical and do you know, does it
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: work the same? Is it still a systemic or you
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: can't remember the chemical they replaced it with.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: No, Okay, so I can't remember who I was talking
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: with about this, But they changed it obviously because glycip
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: had such a bad name. Nobody wanted to rise. So
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: at first off, when all the problem came out, it
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: was rounded, rounded, rounded brown was the name. And then
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: people started changing it to glyciphate. So now people started
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: getting savvy to it because it was another products us
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: exactly right. But you know, the the products that they
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: changed it to are are actually worse than glycipate, because.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Well, what I'm wondering is that do you know, and
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: you maybe you don't know, but what it affect rose
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: is the same way as that did me. Is it
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: a product that maybe is safer to use around roses.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, because I mean, you still don't
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: want to spray it on the roses. But the other
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: was like certain death. Take a rose. You're kind of like, yeah,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: you can live or die. Let me try this test,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: just test it on it. Yeah, I mean the Nazis
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: did death, right. So the the new roundup is flu
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: as of pop but all salt. It's a new thing.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Step out of the car, sir, you're slurring your work well.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: And the problem is is that so so glycifate and
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: all of its badness was an effective product and it
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: did a good job, and it was a nerd when
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: it went into the soil. So meaning if you dropped
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: the bottle of glacifating to the ground near any roots,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: it actually didn't kill.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: The plant, right, It would only kill through leaves. Yeah,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: through foliage and even people we got spray up to
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: trunks on trees and not heard them and not heard
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: the tree.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: If you're if your rose was dormant and you accidentally
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: sprayed it, let's see, I don't know about that.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: You did it absorbed through the stem. Yeah. I think
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: that roses were just especially sensitive, Yeah, more so than
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: anything so so.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: But the problem with these new products that are in
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: round up from what I've heard, is that they go
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: into the soil. So now especially careful spraying around your plants,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: because it can go into your soil and it can
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: affect the surrounding plants.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Didn't you have to be in that meeting at the
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: headquarters when they're going to change the you know, the
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: ingredients or this.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Or that, Well, I wondered, but it's in the name
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: right there. You saw one of the products was tea salt.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Anytime you add salt right into the soil, that create
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: a problem. And would you change the pH to a
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: degree by adding salt.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: It depends on whether it's alkaline or acidic salt.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: But nonetheless, like anytime you put salt into a into
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: a product, you're you're creating a a bad situation for soil.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: That's why we stay That's why we say stay away
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: from you know, chemical fertilizers. That's why we you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: you know you you talk about you know, beach cities
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: and you know their their soils are very salty and
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: things like that, and things get burned and all that
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: because anytime you add salt to the soil you're creating
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: a problem where glyciphate and all of its badness, it
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: was pretty much just a folier kill. It went into
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: the soil, didn't affect it the plants down below. So
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: so I think that the new recipe is actually worse,
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: and I think that they changed it to get away
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: from the glycipate name.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Now, I think I saw roundup pro is a. Is
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: that the old formula?
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they still use that, okay, and you still
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: can get glycipate, but I know that the round up
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: product that you buy on the shelves for consumers, they
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: did switch the recipe.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Our friend Tony in Connecticut says that she thinks that
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: any herbicide's not good for roses, and it's probably true.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: One of the problems used to be with mulches that
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: they had used wheat killer son two four D wheat
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: killers because that would stick around and you would put
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: that around your plants and roses especially it would affect them. Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: That was to keep in the mulch the weeds controlled, right,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Like that would kill the weed seeds and things like
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: that in mulches.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So she also points out that seven is another
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: chemical that they keep changing the ingredients.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: On well, especially in California, A lot of people will
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: still see it on the shelf, but it's not the
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: same formulation, like you said, like the percentage changes a lot,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: like some you know, a lot of times in Texas
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: and Arizona you can find it full strength, but in
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: California it's like one percent or whatever it is.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I remember it was on a lot in California the
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: original seven Chemical and one of the companies came up
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: with a replacement product they call date. Do you remember that.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't think that went over
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: much to.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: No and I mean it just went It goes back
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: to kind of the marketing in the sense of people.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you know, as soon as people see something
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: and they say they hear it's bad, you know, they
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: stop using it, which you know, I mean, do your research.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you guys always talk about Bruce
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: that labels the law, and it's the truth. I mean,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you know, if you use a product and you use
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: it improperly, you're gonna have problems. But if you do
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: use it properly, you should be you know, they, especially
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: in California, they do a lot of I think they're
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: overly cautious, right, like you know on what they release
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: and what they allow you.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: To do ridiculously. I think it was Carla wants to
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: know if tiffenbaki are hard to grow. It's got two
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: that are dead or dying house plants.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean as houseplants are outside outside,
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: they'd be very difficult. I'm thinking, I'm like, I don't
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: think they will grow outside in Costa Rica, no problem,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: So I'm just growing everyone.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the you know, there's new varieties of
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: all kinds of plants, and I think there's been some
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: improvements on deefen baki over the years. I'm not sure,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: but my experience with them is that they are high
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: light plants.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say that because people get
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: the mistake that an indoor plant requires little light.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Right, And on deefen Bakia especially, they've got big leaves.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: So if one leaf falls off, that's a lot, right,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, a big part of the plant is missing.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: And also they need to be dry. They need to
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: be on the dry side. Yeah, and it's hard to
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: do that inside sometimes.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is break time again. We have two more
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: segments after this one, so uh hey, hang in therelet's
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: get some business done. Next segment is a longer one,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: the final segment a shorter one. As always, same format,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: same show, Brian Main, John Magnascar at Tacking Pala, Fox
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Garden America. We are breaking for our friends on biz
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Talk read.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: All right, we're back here we are.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: The conversation continues. We've covered a lot of areas today.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Not bad for coming back after two dry weeks.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know Tiger janis in Brentwood. Our good
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: friend points out that fusillate is a product that you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: can use on roses and it'll like it'll kill grass
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: and not herm okay, so it's selective. Yeah, yeah, because
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Tony was saying any herbicide was bad and uh and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking of that, but yeah, fusilate will kill
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: grass and not hurt the roses.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard that has to do with the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: cell structures of the plants that they're able to identify
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of herbicides that you know, will kill like
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: a broad leaved weed. But then you can use it
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: in your fescue lawn and not hurt the lawn. And
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: you know, the the the herbicides that you can use
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: to kill grass out of ice plants and in different
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: things like that, and sometimes I mean, you know, it's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: kind of like we talk a lot about pyrethrins and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: spinosa and BT and you know, different herbicides and or
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: not in different pesticides. And it's a matter of being selective.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: So that way you you hurt what you don't want,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: but then you don't worry about all the other things.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: So if you use very selective products, you're you're you're
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: being you'll you'll you're being a bit more careful than
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: if you just use those all purpose ones.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I think you're gonna say you always hurt
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: the ones you love.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: I think the worst the worst things on the market
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: for consumer are those like round up three sixty five
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: or those uh herbicide year long, because I mean people
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: spray them and you know that's going straight into the soil.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: And I mean, we were just talking about our memory
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: or no, somebody in the child was talking about their
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: memory fading. And you know, I mean, if if John
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: you went and sprayed round up three sixty five in
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: an area because you're like, you know what, I'm just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: gonna kill all the weeds here, and I don't want
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: to take care of it anymore.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: What's to say? In six months? You go, you know
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: what that looks? He looks so beautiful.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go plants all my roses in there, and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: next thing, you know, your roses die and you're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: that's right.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: I can't even remember where I planted bulbs. What did
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: you have for dinner last night? What did I have?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I had a cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese. That
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: was your dinner? Yeah?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: No, winner, he looked so good. My gosh, Well, at
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: least you could remember.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: That, yeah, exactly so well. If you would ask me breakfast,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: that would have been different. But dinner, of course I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: could remember that. That sounded like breakfast to me. But
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: what do I know?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: There was a question a while back, John for you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: from it. I think it was from Dana, but it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: might have been someone else. Could you tell the difference
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: between store bought pasta and Shannon's?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Oh that was oh, you know, absolutely yeah it. If
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: you make your own pasta noodles, it's unbelievable. It would
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: be like store bought Tomali's fory just making your own. Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Also, our buddy Kevin in Idaho wants to know. Do
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: you ever cut roses and put them in a bouquete,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: bring him into the house, or you just leave them
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: outside all the time?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Rarely do you do that? Rarely do I bring them?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: See I do when I when I have a couple
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: of two or three times I'm not in the house.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: What's that I'm not in the house. I'm outside working
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: with them, and I like to see them out there.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: But when will you be allowed to go back into
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: We we brought this topic up once before about how
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't like to cut roses, and one of our
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: listeners was pointed out very nicely that she likes to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: cut them and give them to people so they can
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: enjoy them.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I know, and I was thinking, you know, I bring
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: him into the house. I should be more like that,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: put them in the kitchen, and especially the ones that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: have nice fragrance. I tell Danna, look what I did
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, looks at me and goes what you
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: did for me? We're talking about I.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Had a rose. One of my rose is one of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: the first ones I created with a polyantha called Gwen Cleary,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: and there's virtually no scent to Polyantha roses, but this
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: one was so strong that somebody told me that they
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: cut a bouquet, put it in the kitchen, walked into
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: the house, and the whole kitchen smell was so fragrant.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: That's nice. I know in that rose is virtually extinct.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: So I was able to get one plant, and I'm
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: trying to get some cuttings. Airloin Roses said that they'd
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: be happy to look at producing it again, So I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: think it's one of the best roses I ever did.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Is there a strongest fragrance rose? There's the James Alexander
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Gamble Fragrance Award that the American Rose Society gives out,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: and I think there's about I haven't kept up to date,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: but I think there's about thirty roses of all time
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: that have made that list. Would mister Lincoln be in there?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Mister Lincoln's there, Double Delight, Double Delight.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: But but I'm sure that that is not necessarily on
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: the strength. It's probably more also the actual fragrance itself,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Like it's a it's a great fragrance. No, it's well yeah,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: or is it the No, it's the strength, the strength,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: like these are the most most Yeah.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Do you have a mister Lincoln rose. I don't think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I'm I'm not sure if I did.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe a nice fragrant rose.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Did I give you one?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: You give me chryst imperial. Yeah, let's look into that.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: You know, back when I had a smaller yard, any
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: rose that you could buy at the store, I didn't have.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I matter of fact, I used to give presentations called
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: roses my neighbor doesn't grow, because my philosophy always was,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: if my neighbor grows it, I'll go I'll go. No,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: go next door and look at it. If I want
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: to see it, I'm going to grow something he doesn't grow.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: So but now with three acres, I can pretty much
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: grow anything I want. It's like, if your neighbor has
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: a lemon tree, there's no reason for you to have
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: a lemon try go pick the lemons, just make friends.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Is there any reason for anyone to have a lemon tree?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, here we go, and let me tell you why.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: I'm thank you. You have two and a half minutes. Okay, Well,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: there was lemon tree on my property that I brought
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: back a myer lemon which a lot of peo, Like right, yeah, okay,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: right now it's probably got one hundred and fifty lemons
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: on it. And you know, Shandon told me to pick
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: some lemons. Go out there, pick four lemons. They've been
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: in the pantry for months. Now, go pick four more. Right,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: that's why people bring all their lemons to work.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, big bags, because it's not it's not
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: a fruit or something that you're going to consume every
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: day or you know, like it's not like an apple.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: It's not like here's the point is, Yeah, when do
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: you use a lemon except for cooking? Or so? I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: need to plant other citrus on my property, right, so
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I go and get citrus trees and plant them, and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: what do I have? Three more lemon trees?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah? One was because I got a lemon that was
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: very similar to the one that we saw in Mentone, France.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Do you remember, Yeah? Is that the place where the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: swap meat was?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: No, that was down south. What was that lemon called?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: You guys always talked about it, the Mentone lemon. The
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Mentone lemon was a variety of the Genoa lemon.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I got a couple of rare lemon varieties
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: and now they're starting to fruit too. But you know,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: it'll be nice to have something else, you know, something
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: you could eat, make lemonade in the summertime. My neighbor
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: across the street likes the lemons, so I said, you know,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: every now and then she'll say, can I have a lemon?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: And I give her a five gallon kin bucket full
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: of lemons. I said, please come pick.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Whatever correlation between you know, the name lemon and when
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you get a car that's no good, the association which
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that sour okay? Really yeah, shower like it's a bad car.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: It's a sour car.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I like sour. Well, you know, the the lemon tree
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: is very pretty, Brian, it's a song, and the lemon
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: flowers sweet. But the fruit of the porlamon Triny loprez,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: it's impossible to epez lemon tree. You're stating facts. No,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: it's a lemon. This is lemon tree. Peter, Paul and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Mary might have done it too. I have a friend
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: in the Rose Society who I won't mention her name,
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  Speaker 3: but she used to date Trinie Lopez.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, he was big in the early sixties, mid sixties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think he did. It was did he do if
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  Speaker 2: I had a hammer, if I had a HANDI so
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  Speaker 2: did Peter Paul and Mary? Right, they both kind of
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  Speaker 2: did the same. I think Peter Paul and Mary.
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  Speaker 3: Wrote it right. But back in the the either that
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  Speaker 3: or they always sang Bob Dylan song pod.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was singing Bob Dylan songs and making hits
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  Speaker 2: out of songs.
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  Speaker 3: That he wrote. Yeah that could actually be sunk. Let
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  Speaker 3: me hear Let me hear those words, Bob if they're sunk. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: with a pleasant voice, speaking of Bob Dylan. This I
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  Speaker 3: guess a movie. Oh yeah, one knew, but yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't something like something like a total unknown if
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  Speaker 3: a complete unknown that comes out of one of his songs,
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  Speaker 3: the complete unknown like a rolling stove got about a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin said that I should eat eat more fish. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you need lemon. You don't have enough. You don't have
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  Speaker 3: enough mercury in your system. You could use lemons. You
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  Speaker 3: won't get any scurvy. Right, No, we we.
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  Speaker 2: Cooked salmon early last week and lemon no target soft enough,
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  Speaker 2: just lemon.
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  Speaker 3: Linna says. She freezes the juice and in ice cube
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  Speaker 3: trace and she can use it later on. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people will do that, just added to their water.
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  Speaker 3: You give that a bad idea.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Tony says that that movie is great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hearing good reviews too. Yeah, it's a young guy
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  Speaker 2: does a great Bob Dylan complete unknown huh, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't have to watch it. Hey, it's break time. One
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  Speaker 2: messages like that, look at other people that have hung
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  Speaker 2: in their ways from beginning to the end. A couple
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  Speaker 2: of people left them, went up the aisles. But then
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  Speaker 2: last year, yeah, still they were still waiting two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I call it. Patience. Nicely done. I love
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  Speaker 3: our listeners. Brian absolutely Carla points out lambs or limes, limes,
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  Speaker 3: limes worse, are worse? Yeah, you know, not only are
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  Speaker 3: they worse. I have an allergy to limes. Really and
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  Speaker 3: for for I think it was before Christmas. It was
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  Speaker 3: my wife's business Christmas. No No, it was our Bible
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  Speaker 3: study Christmas party. Anyway, people came over and I made
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  Speaker 3: a a drink, kind of a punch with different fruits
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  Speaker 3: and things, and and one part of the ingredients was
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  Speaker 3: to squeeze the lime in it. And it'd been so
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  Speaker 3: long since I'd used limes, like years, that I thought,
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  Speaker 3: you know, oh, I can just go ahead and squeeze it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: this is now going on six weeks later, and I
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  Speaker 3: still have the rash from the squeezing the lime.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I thought you were going to say you had
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  Speaker 2: a cut on your finger when you squeezed it the
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  Speaker 2: juice got into your cut.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that would hurt anything. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: it's evolved and devolved into just kind of a rough area,
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  Speaker 3: rough area skin. But the reason I did that because
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  Speaker 3: I knew it was allergic to limes. But I always
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  Speaker 3: thought it was strictly a photophidodermatitis, that it had to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: be activated by the sunlight. But apparently not anymore. I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: think that's overthinking it. The photosynthesis of the photocytist or
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: the lemons during the noontime of the day on a Monday.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think are we up to date? Anybody
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  Speaker 3: Dana wants lemons though, So just so you know, you
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  Speaker 3: might be going home with a five dollon bucket of
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  Speaker 3: lemons next room. I mean, I mean two or three
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  Speaker 3: not bad. Well, you know there's that I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I think it might have been a friend of Lance
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  Speaker 3: Walheims wrote a book on cooking with Myer lemons. Do
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  Speaker 3: you remember that. I don't know if it was Lance.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know well with someone anyway, but I have
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  Speaker 3: that recipe book, so maybe I should look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't there really really old lementry up in Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles some place? There's even a plaque around it. Been
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  Speaker 2: there since what was that nineteen oh six or something?
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  Speaker 3: It was like the oldest citrus and it was in
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: UC Davis or something. Was it a lemon or an orange?
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember the I think what you guys may
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  Speaker 3: be thinking of is that that one hotel up there
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: are the original Washington Naval Orange tree. Yeah, maybe that.
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  Speaker 3: There were three that came to this country from somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in South America, Brazil or somewhere, and they were planted
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  Speaker 3: and two of them are still alive. It's like that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: light bulb in England that's still burning. I like Tony's comment,
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  Speaker 3: I cannot keep mister Lincoln alive in my garden. I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: buy one almost every year. Why why why? You know
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  Speaker 3: Tony should try maybe the perennial variety instead of the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: annual mister. You know, mister Lincoln is extremely fragrant, but
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  Speaker 3: it does have mildew problems and in cooler climates, you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a problem. Even in California. I would say maybe
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  Speaker 3: along the coast, you know, you'd have to watch out
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: for milto. Somebody said it was in Riverside. Yeah, citrus
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about right, right, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Paula said, I was gifted two orchids and VA to
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: keep them healthy. That is something that I've started last
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  Speaker 4: year as there was an area in my yard where
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: it was a bit protected, and so I put a
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: mister system that is attached to my irrigation system. In
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: all my orchids that I kind of collect over the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: year that go out of bloom, I just throw them
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: there and not throw them, but set them there. And
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  Speaker 4: if they survive and they flower again, great, and if
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: they don't, oh so be it. But it's fun to have,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: like I've got, yeah, I've got or kids.
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  Speaker 3: I got failings. I got bromeliads over there. I even
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: put this cardboard plant what's it called, that was inside
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: and not doing so well, so I took it out.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: There was like, if it makes it, it makes it.
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  Speaker 3: It's my little, uh indoor plant hospital. You see a
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Jarwinian care system on those plants. Yes, survival now uh
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: failing osi orcids you can't put there though they won't
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: they won't survive. Well, I don't know, we'll see they're there.
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  Speaker 3: I've got one outside that I put in a planner
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  Speaker 3: that you know, it's one of the ones that you
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: know it's gonna get thrown out because it's lived. It's usefulness.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'll live it's usefulness. And I put it in a
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: planner with some ferns and it actually was growing and
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: put out a new bloom spike. But now, even though
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: it's right up against the house, it's the leaves are
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: turning kind of that purply y color that you know
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: they're going to fall off and die pretty soon.
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  Speaker 4: And it's only going to get worse in the next
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: couple of months. Right, It's kind of like if it's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: doing it now, it won't last for the next few months.
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  Speaker 3: I like what you're doing though. Good luck. Yeah, you
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: don't see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice to have that space because we always have
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: those indoor plants that sometimes struggle, but.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Our fake houseplants are doing well. I noticed the Ficus
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: benjamina behind you did lose a few leaves though, Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: They're at the bottom. It's a really natural look.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it turned my camera rather people to be
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: able to see. I think that would looks pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: The uh, yeah it does because they used real wood
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: to glue the leaves, all the leaves on. Yeah, that thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny when we walk in here and I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: see leaves on the ground on that and I leave them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to do with that thing. Okay,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: about a minute to go, guys, Just like that. Wow,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: failing through today it was.
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  Speaker 3: A it was a fast show, you know. Yesterday I
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: talked to my cousin for the first time in a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: long time, cousin I grew up with, and it was
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: the longest phone call of my entire life. Yeah, I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: look at your phone. Look gets that counted down the time?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Three hours? Really? Yeah, that's a cool conversation, A good conversation. Well, yeah,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably the first time and maybe maybe
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: six or seven years I talked to him. Wow, but
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: you know, catch up on Yeah, so it was amazing
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: how good my memory was. But we did talk about memory,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: and I said, you know what, you can call me
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: next month and we can have another long conversation because
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll remember any of this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guys, that's it for the first show twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Next week, Ornamental Grasses.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Ornamental Grasses next week. Kevin has an idea too. He
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: says he wants to see a show on organic gardening
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: and which fertilizers and herbicides are good to use.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll file that away. Thank you so
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: much for tuning into this first show. Hope you had
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: a good holiday season, Christmas and New Year's everything going
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  Speaker 2: We are back next week. No, we're not going to
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• 1:18:33
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