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10-7 H4: Cam Cleeland Joins, Gregg Bell Audio & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Your home for the Huskies proudly presents our weekly visit
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  Speaker 1: with the Dogs color commentator, Cam Cleland.
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  Speaker 2: Hallelujah, purple rain, let's go!
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  Speaker 1: Brought to you by Warrior Injury Law, battle tested. Now
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  Speaker 1: here's Chuck in the morning with the former Husky tight
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  Speaker 1: end on Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, once a week, Cam Cleland, voice of the Dogs,
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  Speaker 3: joins us here Wednesdays at 9.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Cam. Man, these Wednesdays, Chuck, they're coming fast and furious.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Aren't they? It's getting faster. Yeah. It's like
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  Speaker 2: we're getting older or something. How do we slow this
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  Speaker 2: down a little bit? I know. You got any theories?
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  Speaker 2: I guess we could try to petition the government for
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  Speaker 2: two Tuesdays. That's fair. I mean, it's hump day. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everybody likes hump day, right? It's the middle of the week, right?
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  Speaker 2: Hump day! Allegedly. Let's see, right?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we only have one Wednesday a month. So it
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  Speaker 3: feels like we don't come across Wednesdays, but in the
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  Speaker 3: hump of the month, it's the 15th of every month.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the best time of year, right? Arguably,
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  Speaker 2: come on. This is the greatest month in the entire calendar, right?
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  Speaker 2: Without question. We've got MLB. Basketball starting. Sorry, basketball. You're there.
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  Speaker 2: You're in the conversation. Football. College football. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is the greatest month in sports. Yeah, without question. Hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. NHL. Absolutely. Runaway winner. Greatest month.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, October is the king and queen of our calendar year.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: You know, as we get ready for Friday night against
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  Speaker 3: the Iowa Hawkeyes, forgive me. When you see me in person,
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  Speaker 3: you can slap me if you would like. But I
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  Speaker 3: hope you're not offended by this. I know you bleed purple.
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  Speaker 3: I know that you love your choice and your alma
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  Speaker 3: mater and everything else. But I tell you what, if you,
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  Speaker 3: where you would have made sense in any other program.
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  Speaker 2: In America, an Iowa Hawkeye. I know where you're going.
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  Speaker 2: I could see you being an Iowa Hawkeye. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think of that? Yeah. Well, it's because you're quoting
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  Speaker 2: the George Kittles here, aren't you? I mean, that's my
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  Speaker 2: spirit animal for a young tight end.
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  Speaker 3: Well, tight end university and also just kind of the
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  Speaker 3: mentality that they play with. I mean, that just, to me,
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  Speaker 3: you were a phenomenal Husky. You'll always be a Husky,
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  Speaker 3: but you could have been a good Hawkeye, too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Hawkeyes were solid even back at the time. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fair thing. I do believe it's the Midwest.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of gives you that. No, I've been there.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine. I say that as it's fine. I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm a bigger fan of the West Coast, but it's good.
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  Speaker 2: It's good. No, but I think that's a... That's an
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  Speaker 2: honest opinion. It's a solid take on that one. Just
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  Speaker 2: because it's a little more tight in you now, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a big fan of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it certainly has turned into that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how do you do that? I mean, how is every
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  Speaker 3: program in America not studying how Iowa develops and finds
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  Speaker 3: its tight ends? I mean, they're not even like first round.
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  Speaker 3: They don't even have to be like first round draft picks.
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  Speaker 3: George Kittle, I think, was a third round draft pick.
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  Speaker 3: What is it about the secret sauce in Iowa City
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  Speaker 3: that they're just cranking out a tight end every year
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  Speaker 3: that clicks in the national football league? Have you been
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  Speaker 3: able to figure it out?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think what's obvious to me, I get it,
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  Speaker 2: because Kurt Ferentz doesn't allow a tight end to be
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  Speaker 2: a stand-up guy. Is that about as clear as I
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  Speaker 2: can get? You actually have to be physically tough. And
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  Speaker 2: of course, Iowa, and we'll talk about, we can talk
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  Speaker 2: about the stats all day. Just look at Iowa right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Hank Brown is 832 yards in the air.
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  Speaker 2: They don't throw, they just, that's not how they're built.
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  Speaker 2: They're not built that way. They're built for physicality, built
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  Speaker 2: to run the football. And oh, by the way, these
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  Speaker 2: guys are really athletic. They're athletic guys that are physical,
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  Speaker 2: intimidating blockers and you put on George Kittle film and
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, that's exactly, I know I have a
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  Speaker 2: bro crush on that kid, but he's just that good
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  Speaker 2: because he doesn't come off the field. And that's how
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  Speaker 2: I feel about Baron at Washington right now. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's why he's in my eyes, not just because he
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  Speaker 2: wears 85 and he's a ginger. I mean, that just
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  Speaker 2: falls into place for me, but he, he, he stays
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  Speaker 2: on the field. He's great on the outside. He can
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  Speaker 2: block down the field and catch the ball. And I
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  Speaker 2: love Decker too. The touchdown was great down the sideline
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  Speaker 2: deck does a great job, but Baron is better. at
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  Speaker 2: blocking and that's physicality and physical football wins. And we're not,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything that's new is that you have to,
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  Speaker 2: you have to do a great job with it. And
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  Speaker 2: Iowa does, I mean, they're going to come in and
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  Speaker 2: they're going to want to run the football all over
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  Speaker 2: the place. That's how heavy they are. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: DeGraff did have a nice little tap dance down the
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  Speaker 3: line on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: How about that tackle effort by USC?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was, that was, I think that was, that
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  Speaker 3: was a pushing effort. Just a couple of, I think
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  Speaker 3: it was a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: You're it. Okay. You're it. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: That gets taught a lot in practice, doesn't it? Football
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  Speaker 3: practice that you just want to just like a shove
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  Speaker 3: a guy to a ground rather than wrap and tackle.
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  Speaker 2: We can't hit like we used to. Do you remember?
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  Speaker 2: I ever used to watch NFL crunch course before every
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  Speaker 2: game in high school. That's they put you in jail
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  Speaker 2: now for what we used to be able to watch.
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  Speaker 2: So we got to, we got to calm it down
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Cleland with us, voice of the dogs, right here
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  Speaker 3: for his Wednesday conversation. And I do want to speak more, certainly,
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  Speaker 3: about the Iowa game, especially the Friday night spectacle that it's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be.
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  Speaker 3: But let's spend a little bit of time on that
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  Speaker 3: USC game because I don't know if the dogs outplayed USC,
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  Speaker 3: but certainly it looked like they were in great position
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  Speaker 3: to win this game, and it didn't happen. Where do
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  Speaker 3: you go with your analysis on why it didn't happen?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it just comes down to they made
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  Speaker 2: more plays in the moment. They made some critical errors,
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  Speaker 2: some massive penalty errors that when I say they, USC,
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  Speaker 2: to put Washington up on that 21-10 situation, you felt
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  Speaker 2: really good about it. But it just came down to
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  Speaker 2: looking at really, you know, your, what were you, 0
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  Speaker 2: for 14, 13 on third downs. That's not successful yet.
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  Speaker 2: those things can be quite pivotal. But you had some
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  Speaker 2: success in moments. And I think the easy thing to
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  Speaker 2: do right now, Chuck, and this is me getting on
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  Speaker 2: a soapbox for a minute, the easy thing to do
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  Speaker 2: is throw quarterbacks under the bus. And I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: exhausted of it in football analysis. I think it's cheap.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's lazy. And I think it's easy to
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  Speaker 2: do when you look at quarterback play. And you have
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  Speaker 2: to have a full spectrum of schemes. You know, you're
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  Speaker 2: Daman Williams is the second leading rusher. He has over
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  Speaker 2: 1300 yards. He is everything for this offense. Everything without
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  Speaker 2: Daman Williams, this Husky offense would probably be dead last in,
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  Speaker 2: in all of college football, because I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: the backups are. I've never seen them play. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's easy to look at what demands inefficiencies are and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: he can't see. Well, yeah, he's five, 10. All right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: These are things you have to do. So you design
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  Speaker 2: the offense around it. You make adjustments. But mistakes in
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line, jumping off sides, putting yourself in second
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  Speaker 2: and 15, second and 20, holding calls in situations, miss blocks.
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  Speaker 2: We have 15 sacks on the season. Iowa comes into
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  Speaker 2: the game, I think they have four. Okay, 15 sacks
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  Speaker 2: for DeMond Williams is unacceptable. And that's not just on him.
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  Speaker 2: That's not. That's on a protection scheme, and that's on
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  Speaker 2: an inability to run the football because your top two
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  Speaker 2: backs are hurt. And now you're down to a freshman,
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  Speaker 2: which Bonner looked better. Counter runs were great. We adjusted
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  Speaker 2: well with some very good counters on the backside because
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  Speaker 2: we overload one side, pull a tight end, kick out.
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  Speaker 2: He did very, very well. But for DeMond to be
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  Speaker 2: sacked 15 times tells me one of two things. He
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  Speaker 2: can't find his answers. Nobody's getting separation in the secondary
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  Speaker 2: because they're not quite as easy always to just say
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  Speaker 2: it's on the receivers. But it's a scheme. It's how
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  Speaker 2: you run your routes. how defenders defend you. And then
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  Speaker 2: I think demand is in a turmoil field. This is
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  Speaker 2: just me again. I'm again, I'm watching film. I think
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  Speaker 2: he says, I got to win from the pocket. That's
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  Speaker 2: the way it gets me to the NFL. That's what
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  Speaker 2: it does in the NFL. True. Very true. But in college,
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  Speaker 2: when you're a better athlete and you're faster than everybody,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you just be better than everybody. And that's, that's
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  Speaker 2: what it takes. So I think he's has inner turmoil,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of what to do and I can
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  Speaker 2: see it, but, that's the part of growth and where
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  Speaker 2: he continues to get better. But I just think it's
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  Speaker 2: really easy to just throw him under the bus and
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't like it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the abuse he's taken in the pocket, I've
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  Speaker 3: said this a couple of times this week, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think Jed's reluctant to have him be a bigger
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  Speaker 3: part of a designed running attack. And yet he's taken
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  Speaker 3: so much abuse in the pocket. How much more could
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  Speaker 3: he take? I mean, I'm not talking about running them
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  Speaker 3: between the tackles or doing the, diving over the top
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  Speaker 3: of the line on goal line, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'd get him outside more. I think you can.
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  Speaker 3: Protect yourself if you're rolling outside or you're moving the
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  Speaker 3: pocket and giving yourself more space in order to take
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  Speaker 3: advantage of your athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: What is your response to that? Well, he's got 50.
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  Speaker 2: He's the leading attempts. He's 53 carries on the season.
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  Speaker 2: He leads the team in rushes, attempts. I look at...
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  Speaker 2: just have to speak from just from what what I
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  Speaker 2: see and what I need to do or or when
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  Speaker 2: I look at a good athlete I try to amplify
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  Speaker 2: it and what what it looks like to me is
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  Speaker 2: he needs faster answers and you know if your offensive
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  Speaker 2: line and teams are blitzing and they I've said this
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  Speaker 2: all year from the start is that we're very susceptible
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  Speaker 2: to a and b gap blitzes that means center pressure
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  Speaker 2: center pressure is on the left and right of the guard.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've said it so many times. And teams
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  Speaker 2: have now, on the blueprint, is that that's where they
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  Speaker 2: bring pressure on DeMond. Because it squeezes the vision of him,
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  Speaker 2: and it shortens the pocket. Great pockets are always formed
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  Speaker 2: in a U shape, where you sustain... the centers and
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  Speaker 2: the guards, and then the tackles get depth and create
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  Speaker 2: a U pocket. We get interior pressure quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Is that on DeMond Williams or is that on protection scheme?
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  Speaker 2: And is that on execution by the guys up front?
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you guys kind of, my answer is about
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  Speaker 2: very simple. You have to get better up front. And
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  Speaker 2: number two is I will want to see him. I
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  Speaker 2: personally want to see ball out of his hand faster.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to see, intermediate intermediate throws that are
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  Speaker 2: five and six yards and not 12 and 13 yards
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  Speaker 2: and for those are high high level throws high level
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  Speaker 2: throws and i'm in the last times i've watched football
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  Speaker 2: and broadcasted football and been around football only seen a
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  Speaker 2: couple quarterbacks are great at it one he was number
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  Speaker 2: nine and you get to see him do it in
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  Speaker 2: atlanta now there's not a lot of throwers that have
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  Speaker 2: high percentage throws down the field at plus 10 yards
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  Speaker 2: and are consistently successful with it, especially when your vision
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  Speaker 2: is trapped and you're trying to be somebody you're not.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not critical of the design of the offense
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  Speaker 2: or anything. I just think all of them are all
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  Speaker 2: searching for what works really well right now. And Coach
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  Speaker 2: Fish is doing an amazing job trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: what will be successful in his system. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: they're not trying. They're doing everything they can. And the
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  Speaker 2: answers have to be execution more, in my opinion, Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: not just design. Anybody can drop play. But you have
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  Speaker 2: to execute it and start to really make sure DeMond
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  Speaker 2: has higher success now. Because he's really our offense, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to tell it to you. He's it. That's
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  Speaker 2: what you have. It's weird that Atlanta added number nine
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  Speaker 2: to their lineup, and now the offense looks great. Weird. Weird.
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  Speaker 2: Not like we would have ever suggested that. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: why put a guy like that that can throw the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Why would you even consider that for a year and
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  Speaker 2: a half? Have a great running game, right? Just put
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  Speaker 2: a good running back behind and have an unbelievable quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Why do that? Cam Cleland is with us.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so what does it mean to get Landon
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  Speaker 3: Hatchett back and some of these other shakeups that Jed's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to implement on the offensive line? It means a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Because experience is a big deal and Landon has a
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  Speaker 2: ton of it. And that means, and he also has
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  Speaker 2: a body and a shape when we mean center gravity, physicality, size.
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  Speaker 2: And I like Colt and Colt's done a good job,
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  Speaker 2: but at the center position, it wasn't his true, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: his true position. So Landon brings a ton of knowledge
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  Speaker 2: of protection experience, how to help on both sides, how
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  Speaker 2: to climb to the second level. to get to the
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  Speaker 2: Mike linebacker, to get to the linebackers on second level blocks,
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  Speaker 2: his combination ability with his footwork, you know, center of
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  Speaker 2: gravity for a center. I know that sounds like an
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  Speaker 2: oxymoron a little bit, but you have to have not,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason why the guys like Kelsey
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  Speaker 2: were amazing centers and Olin Krutz was a hall of
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  Speaker 2: famer and all of those things, because they're not huge.
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  Speaker 2: They're not, they're six foot six, one Landon's listed at six, three,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably closer to six, two, but he's, he intelligent. solid,
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  Speaker 2: all those things are important at the center position because
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  Speaker 2: it's the anchor. The anchor is what controls everything in
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  Speaker 2: the middle and we need to shore that up and
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  Speaker 2: him coming back is a big deal. I think now
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  Speaker 2: in our guard position, I think if you can keep,
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  Speaker 2: now I don't know if Jed, now remember in the
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  Speaker 2: second half, he kept John Mills at left tackle the
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  Speaker 2: entire second half. Cody was out. Now that tells me
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  Speaker 2: that there were some things that they were looking at
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  Speaker 2: and said, Hey, we had success right before the second
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  Speaker 2: half with that group. We're going to stay with it.
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  Speaker 2: And that meant Gary and slid over. And then he
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  Speaker 2: had champ champs making a little bit, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: too many mental errors right now, too many mental errors,
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  Speaker 2: too many. Now, I don't know if that's just because of, of,
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  Speaker 2: of things. He's just still at the games too fast
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  Speaker 2: for him, but the experience is there. However, this needs
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  Speaker 2: to get set up. Whoever needs to solidify those two
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  Speaker 2: guard positions, that, Needs to lock in. Like, mentally, you
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  Speaker 2: need to lock in.
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  Speaker 3: You gave us a Benji Olsen impersonation last week. Do
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  Speaker 3: you have an Olin Krutz impersonation as well?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have one? You know, no. He's from Hawaii, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they are. We're from the island.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is. You want a mixed plate? That's it.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, prepare for.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Olin was... You just... two, two things. Don't, don't,
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  Speaker 2: don't make Olin angry. And, um, uh, just, yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. That's, it's, it was, it was, he
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  Speaker 2: was one hell of a dude, man. Uh, one hell
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  Speaker 2: of a football player. I'll tell you what. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: prepare yourself for burn Brostick next week. Practice, uh, practice.
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  Speaker 2: Even better, even better, even better. All right, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about the Iowa Hawkeyes then.
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  Speaker 3: So we know we're going to get a physical brand
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  Speaker 3: of football from them. We know they're going to try
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  Speaker 3: to run the football. We know they're going to play
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  Speaker 3: stout defense. So what's the game plan for beating a
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  Speaker 3: team that is pretty much that simple and yet very
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  Speaker 3: good at executing that simple game plan?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to make a lot of mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to have to beat them. I guess I
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  Speaker 2: could say that in a lot of confidence. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they don't give up a lot of sacks. They don't
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  Speaker 2: turn the ball over. They're going to run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to play, try to carry 10 play drives.
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  Speaker 2: That's one thing that the Husky defense had. They had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of long drives that they gave up, sustaining
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  Speaker 2: drives to SC. Those chewed up a ton of clock,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of that's on the offense. We're going
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  Speaker 2: three and out and getting out quick. And then giving
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  Speaker 2: the ball back to your defense. So getting off the
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  Speaker 2: field is premium. For us to be successful, we have
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  Speaker 2: to be at least 50% on third down going into
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  Speaker 2: Friday night. Now, whatever the weather is supposed to be,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen reports where it could be a little dreary. However,
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  Speaker 2: that means if it changes what we have to do
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  Speaker 2: on the ground, I'll be honest, I don't have a
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: lot of confidence right now that we're going to be
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: a 200-yard rushing team. But can we get to 100?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Can we simplify it a little bit? Sure. But you're
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: going to have to beat them, and you have to
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: beat them with precision. That means mistake-free football. Don't turn
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the ball over. And you're going to get in these ugly–
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, an Iowa game is 16-13, 18-15. That's an
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Iowa football game. That's just what Iowa does. They bring
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you into that. You ever seen a– I mean, that's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: how they design. It's how Kurt Ferentz loves to play football.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It's old. It's just– Let's go out in the cornfield
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: and let's line up in the dirt. And this is
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: how he wants to play. So let's just match it,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: but play better mistake-free football. Don't have penalties on third
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: downs that are procedure penalties, false starts, mentally sharp. And
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: let's make a couple big plays like Decker's big play.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: If you've got to have a little trickeration and throw
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: a ball over the top, and Dez has got to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: throw a touch, then great. Whatever we've got to do.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: A couple big plays, and that should be good enough,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and let's get a couple turnovers on defense. Do you
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: like the Friday night thing or no? Hate it. Hated
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it ever since. I'll stay this until the day I die.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Friday nights for high school football. It's horrible. Horrible. College football,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it's a massive disservice to what they've done Friday nights. Horrible. Well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: you'll make the best of it, though. Anybody that likes
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Friday Night Football just means they're late. Yeah. Hey, I
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: have to do it. Yeah. We have to accept it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: We're just on the outside. We're just media people, Chuck.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: We just do our job, right? But we just do
• 17:56
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• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Friday.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: High school football, Friday Night Lights, man. I hear you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I hear you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I hear you.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Well, have a great time on Friday, despite your hatred
• 18:10
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• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And we will talk to you again next week. Wonderful.
• 18:15
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• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I had a couple buddies who were listening from outside
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• 19:00
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• 19:05
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• 19:08
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• 19:14
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• 19:16
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• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Mixon's not here, and yet that's not, I mean, the
• 19:36
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• 19:39
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• 21:20
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• 21:32
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• 21:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:47
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• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Um, let's talk about Seahawks 49ers. Uh, it turns out
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon's not going to be a Seahawk. Uh, after
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: all he failed his physical, very bizarre story. I mean,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Houston people at Houston still don't really know how to
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: describe the Joe Mixon year, a year ago. that he
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: was not available with an injury that they thought that
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: at some point during the season he would be, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: he just never became available. To this day, they say
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: it's a freak thing, and yet they won't explain what was.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Freakish about it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I'm very curious now, maybe even more so now that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: he's not going to be a Seahawk.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Right. Like, okay, well, what's the story then?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Now that maybe you didn't want to tell tales out
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of school, but now I really want to know what is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It about the foot That was so... I mean, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: get his foot is injured.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: He can't play football anymore because you need two good
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: feet to play running.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Back in the National Football League. You don't say. Right?
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: But when people that have been around football injuries their
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: entire lives are like, he can't play.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: It's freakish. And I don't know what else to say
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: about it. Oh, yeah, you've scratched my curiosity. You better
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: believe it. What the hell?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Did he take his sock off here and he had
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: 14 toes? Toes just started sprouting out? I mean, is
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: it a perfect V? Did it get split down the middle?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, what? Did he step on a waffle iron
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like Michael Scott? The office?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, George Foreman grilled. And so now there's no longer
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a bunion? I mean, what on earth happened that's so
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: crazy and strange about Joe Mixon's foot injury?
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: The nature of the way it's being talked about is
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: so weird because now I'm thinking like, oh, is this
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: just kind of a cover-up for something else that's going on?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: May be in play you know what i mean where
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: like it's obviously not a big enough deal to where
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: he thinks he can play again and he wants to
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: come in and work out for a team does he
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: or was.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: He like you really want me to play okay the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: seahawks called him is what you're saying and then just tried.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: To fake it just like okay i'll fake the can
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: i fake my way through the the physical it's a
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: pretty nice paycheck yeah i don't know Because he finished
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: last season telling everybody, I'm done. I will never play again.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And then he didn't get signed, and there wasn't any
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon talk in the offseason. And then all of
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a sudden, obviously the Seahawks, to quote Mike McDonald, we
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: need running backs.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're down running backs.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: And then his name pops up in conversations, and next
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: thing you know, he's coming in for a physical, which
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: he does not pass. So I don't know if he
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: got that phone call from John, and it was just like, yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I can play. I can come try out. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: You're going to fly me out to Seattle? What kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: of hotel are you putting me up in? Why not? Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Get a free drink out of it. Free meals. Yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. Weird story.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: It is weird because remember going into last year, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: you mentioned this kind of the fantasy angle, because I
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: remember it was a whole thing when people were drafting
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: their teams. It's like, okay, we know he's not ready
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: to start the season, but- there wasn't anything about him
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: missing the whole season.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: It was like, okay, maybe a few weeks here and
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: there would be like, if he comes back mid season,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: I get a, you know, first or second round running back.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Did I get to draft in the 10th round or whatever?
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: But it just never formulated. And we never really heard
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: anything about it. I remember them asking D'Amico Ryan's like
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: every week, what's the status of Joe Nixon or Joe Mixon?
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: And he was like, not playing this week. And that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: basically it. I'm just, I'm so curious why it reminds
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: me of the Sam Donald unique butt injury, why they
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: were so hiding.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Like why hide it? Just tell us what's going on. Well, I,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, He wasn't a Seahawks for very long. The
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Texans are the ones that have hit him. What is happening? Anyway,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: no Joe Mixon. He's not going to be a Seahawks
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: or a running back room. We'll have Robert Henry Jr.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: In it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Greg told us at 7.05 that he expects Henry to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: get some reps, to get some carries this Sunday against
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the San Francisco 49ers.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: No, it's not anything. It's not a running back room
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that we're doing any bragging about. If we got caught
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: in a bar and Chicago, Illinois, we're not going to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: get in an argument with a Bears fan over who's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: got the better running back room at this point. Or Atlanta, Georgia,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: we're not going to dare whisper we've got a better.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Running back room. We're not going to go there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: But as I mentioned before, I mean, Christian McCaffrey last
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: year averaged 3.1 yards per carry against us over the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: course of three games. Can Emmanuel Wilson and company give
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: us 3.1 yards per carry?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Can we match that? I think so. I think so. Yeah.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I think we can get that done, especially if Shahid
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: has a couple nice little carries.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: That would be nice.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: But maybe the running back room was not the reason
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: we lost two weeks ago. Maybe the running back room
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: was not the reason that we struggled somehow against the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Chargers in the fourth quarter. Maybe there's a bigger issue
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: at hand. I asked Greg Bell at 7.05, all right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: so how do you practice to commit fewer mistakes?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Bad penalties.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Well, just don't be stupid. Don't headbutt someone 15 yards
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: away from the play. Don't rodeo throw somebody out of
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: bounds through the white border of the sideline. And don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: even touch the quarterback on third and 24. I mean,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: those are the three most galling penalties of all of them.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: A two-yard pass on third and 24 and Derek Hall's
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: hitting the quarterback. You shouldn't even touch him. Selfish plays,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: as McDonald calls it. The players' union has really champed
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: out on coaches being able to fine players for stupid plays.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: But those are finable offenses. That's not even close to
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: a 30-23 game if they don't have seven personal fouls
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: and four drive-extending penalties for the Chargers. I don't think
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: this is as bad as it looked just because it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: so preventable.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I hope that is the case. I don't think it's
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: a trend. I don't think that that's this defense's reputation.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know why there was so much extracurricular activity.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And frankly, I would think they're going to be more
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: fired up for the 49ers than they were against the Chargers.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So if there is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: If there is a risk of playing after the whistle,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: you would think it would come this week. I just
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: hope that it wasn't a week spent taking the sting,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: taking the venom out of the fangs to make sure
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: that you don't commit penalties on Sunday and it takes
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: away some of the aggression. Because we're going to need both.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: We absolutely have to play smarter football. Absolutely can't give
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: the 49ers seven extra first downs.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And yet.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they're going to have to play their utmost aggressiveness against
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: this opponent because you know you're going to get their
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: 10 out of 10 effort. 49ers have a fan base
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: known for eating brie and tying their sweaters around their
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: necks when they go to the game and drinking Chablis.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But that football.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Team that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch have put together,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that is one physical unit. So you're going to get
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: punched in the mouth and you better be able to
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: punch back without over-punching.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: You remember the DK Metcalf conversation when he was committing
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: a lot of these personal foul penalties after the whistle?
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: And it was very much the same thing of, hey,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: I don't want to take that edge away from him
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: as a player, but you can't be hurting your team
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: as much as you are right now. I don't feel
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: like the Seahawks have any of those players that are
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: prone to that often.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I agree a thousand percent.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: So I tend to think this is more of a, hey,
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: It was some weird situations, some over refereeing in situations
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: as well. I don't think Nicky Manwari is the type
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: of guy to have that be a trend with him.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Even Devin Witherspoon, who's a very vocal. physical player, he's
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: not had any issues with this in the past. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: I don't think this is a huge trend for the
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Seahawks moving forward.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see them as having that reputation. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: think it's something that can be curbed. But, I mean,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: we're just in an era of where guys really want
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to celebrate themselves.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And guys really don't ever want to be disrespected. So
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: if you marry that with a little extracurricular activity and
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: an officiating crew that's trying to set the tone, then
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you can have an ugly game like that. Because it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: not like the Seahawks were the only team getting hit
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: with 15-yard penalties on Sunday.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It was the most penalized week in a long time. Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the Chargers had just as many. Right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And some bad ones themselves. I mean, that just has
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to be cleaned up. It has to be cleaned up
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: without taking your aggression away from you because you know
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: you are in for a battle on Sunday afternoon.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Can't wait. All right, coming up next, we'll close out
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the show with one last thing. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: All right, final segment of our show here on this
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: hump day.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: As we go around the room for one last thing, Anders,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you know you get us started.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: What do you got over there? I know I'm not
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: normally a hot take guy. You kind of can. You
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: can be. Okay, that's fair, fair. I have a potential
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: hot take here. Okay. Fantasy hockey is the best fantasy
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: sport to play. Well, he left me a little parched there. Oh,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Wrong segment. This is not thirst for Hearst.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think I love fantasy football and I
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: love fantasy in general, period. I try and play as
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: much as I can with any sport, to be honest.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: Fantasy baseball can be a ton of fun, too. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: like the aspect of fantasy hockey that it's an 84-game
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: schedule now, so you don't play every day, but you
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: also don't play just one game a week like you
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: do in fantasy football. There's a ton of strategy involved with, A,
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: your goalies, because obviously it's not just one goalie starting
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: every game. You're swapping them out, trying to figure out
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: who you want, what kind of value you get there.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Sometimes your team plays twice a week. Sometimes your team
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: plays four times a week. Are you willing to sacrifice
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: a player that plays only twice but is one of
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: your better players? To get someone who plays four times
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: for that one week. There's just so many different aspects
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: to it that are so much fun to watch. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: it's really honestly, it's taken my interest in the NHL
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: a long way because when the Kraken came, I watched
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Kraken games and was kind of done with it. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: as soon as I started playing fantasy hockey, kind of
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: by accident, because Ian Furness had me join his league
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: pretty randomly one year. And I've been just completely on
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: board ever since because I'm watching other games and I'm realizing, huh,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: there are more fun teams to watch than the Seattle Kraken.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's fun. I've tried to play twice.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I think I've abandoned it once within three days and
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the second time within three hours.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: It's a grind. I don't know.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: It just won't hook me. It just will not hook me.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Like fantasy football did like immediately. As soon as I
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: heard about fantasy football, and this is going back to.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: 1989, for goodness sake. I'm like, I'm in. Yeah. You know?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And baseball, I think, is just extraordinary. And I don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: understand why people do the... It's just so much work.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's no more work than fantasy football. Yeah, no.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: But it is more work because you're not just... You
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: don't have to know just the skill players. You kind
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: of have to know the pitchers and the hitters on
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: every team. Where in the National Football League, it's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: as much work because all you've got to know is
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the receivers, tight ends, quarterbacks, and running backs. So from
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that standpoint, it's more work. But actual work during the
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: course of a week?
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: No.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: No more work than football. Fantasy hockey and probably basketball.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: I've never done basketball. We should do basketball. We should
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: do basketball.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Kid, have you ever done fantasy basketball? I've been doing
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: it for... Do you like it? Love it. Better than
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: fantasy football? That's a good discussion. Maybe a topic for
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: another day. I've never done it. I mean, almost did
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: it one time.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I will say that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, I would assume it's similar
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: to hockey because, again, you can play twice a week
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: or you can play four games in a week.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: So in the league I'm in, you have all your players, right?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: You get to pick one game throughout the week. Oh,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: if you, so yeah, those games matter more. Oh, it's,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: it's more of a challenge. You can't just like, Oh,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I get to start my guy. You have to pick
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: a specific game and let's say he's sick or something.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: You can suspend it and use another game, but you
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: have to be paying attention.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. I like it. I see. Yeah, it is.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: It's, I think, I agree with you. I don't think
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: fantasy baseball is a ton of work at all because
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: you play almost every day. But you don't have to
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: do all this strategy about playing more games, playing less
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: games and all that stuff. So anyways, that's just my
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: take for the day.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It's a bad one.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: But you know what?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It's your one last thing. That's fine. That's fair. Kid,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: what's your one last thing?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if you guys have been paying
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: attention to any of the news. The Vikings are signing
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: wide receiver Odell Beckham. And in my head, I'm like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: my guy, it's time to... It's time.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: It was time.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: His last best year, I would say, was with the Rams,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and then unfortunately he hurt his knee.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: He was in the Super Bowl.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: They did win, but it just sucks because that was
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: at his peak.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You got to see him play.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Really, really good football with Sean McVay, and now he's
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: just grasping at straws. It's just like, dude, you were
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: on the Giants, and you weren't even useful there. No
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: discredit to him, and now you're going to the Minnesota Vikings,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: who have a, I would say, better wide receiver unit.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's not. He's just a body. And I don't think...
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: A body at this point. In need of a bag.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Well, based on his comments over the summer, yeah, probably.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: So I think he... Just hang it up, Odell. You
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: had a great career.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you doing this will take away from
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: your greatness, but there's no point, in my opinion.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Well, he was great, but for a very short period
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: of time. He does not go down as a great
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: football player. And it shows you how difficult it is.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about how hard it was for all
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the rest of us To, you know, that wanted to
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: play high school sports and then into college sports and
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: then had the dream. Think about how hard it is
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to get there. Then think about how hard it is
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to become great. And then the hardest of them all.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: To stay great.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: To stay great for a long period of time. Man,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: those Hall of Famers. Yeah, they deserve all that pomp
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: and circumstance.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they really do.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Odell, even though he got off to a
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame start, not anywhere close. I'm going to
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: close with this. I brought this up earlier in the show.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: We got some great feedback on our text line that
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I wish we could have shared.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We didn't have the time. But I mentioned, should the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Mariners go after Ronald Acuna Jr. this offseason? Maybe now's
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the time to do that. His value's down.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: He's got two team options for the next two years
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: of just $ 17 million that won't chase off John Stanton.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: His trade value is lowest it's been all his career.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: so that won't scare off Justin or.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Jerry, I would think. But he is a jerk.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: He is a guy that does not— he picks and chooses
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: when he wants to hustle, and.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: We don't like players like that. Nobody likes players like that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: That said, he is just so incredibly talented.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: If you had the right manager to get him going,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: would you roll the dice on a potential 10 out
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: of 10 talent and then hiring the right manager slash
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: coaching staff to get the most out of him in
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a two-year stretch where he would be playing for his
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: only huge contract of his career.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I just looked it up.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what is Ronald Acuna's trade value? I didn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: have time to dig deeper into it. But I found
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: this story from Atlanta, from Bleacher Report in Atlanta. A
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Ronald Acuna Jr. trade is the reset that the Atlanta
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Braves desperately need. This was written July 9th, 2025.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Last year. That was last year. But he had a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: really good year, by the way.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: So his value might be, trade-wise, lower than ever. It
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: might be the time. Imagine if you just got that
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: breaking news today that Ronald Acuna was a Mariner.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I'd love it. What kind of reaction that you would
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: have to it? Absolutely love it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some sweet and sour to it, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling that would be a That would
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: charge some energy into this offseason right off the bat.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at 6 a.m.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell and Jessamyn Neck, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.