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Embracing Fear Through Imagination: Insights from 'Attack of the Monster Pickles' · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:01
  My
• 4:01
  name
• 4:02
  is
• 4:02
  Sarah
• 4:02
  Elizabeth
• 4:03
  Graves
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  I'm
• 4:04
  here
• 4:04
  with
• 4:04
  my
• 4:04
  son.
• 4:07
  And
• 4:08
  together
• 4:08
  we
• 4:08
  wrote
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  a
• 4:09
  book.
• 4:09
  Called
• 4:10
  Monster
• 4:11
  Attack
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  of
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  Monster
• 4:12
  Pickles.
• 4:14
  Attack
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  of
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  Monster
• 4:16
  Pickles.
• 4:16
  What
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  great
• 4:17
  title.
• 4:18
  Sarin.
• 4:18
  Parker,
• 4:19
  thank
• 4:19
  you
• 4:20
  for
• 4:20
  joining
• 4:20
  me
• 4:20
  on
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  adventures
• 4:21
  in
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  heart
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  children's
• 4:23
  book
• 4:23
  authors.
• 4:24
  For
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  listening
• 4:25
  audience,
• 4:25
  we're
• 4:26
  going
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  have
• 4:27
  Sarah,
• 4:27
  Sarah
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  Parker
• 4:28
  answer
• 4:29
  some
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  our
• 4:29
  questions.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:31
  throughout
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  interview,
• 4:32
  Sarah
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  and
• 4:34
  Parker,
• 4:34
  whatever
• 4:34
  you
• 4:35
  feel
• 4:35
  comfortable
• 4:36
  in
• 4:36
  talking
• 4:37
  about,
• 4:37
  please
• 4:38
  do
• 4:38
  that.
• 4:39
  And
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  just
• 4:40
  so
• 4:40
  everyone
• 4:40
  knows,
• 4:41
  Parker
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  is.
• 4:42
  You're
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  10
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  now,
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  Parker.
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  You're
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  in
• 4:45
  grade
• 4:47
  12.
• 4:50
  Yeah.
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  He
• 4:52
  just
• 4:52
  graduated
• 4:52
  fourth
• 4:53
  grade.
• 4:53
  So
• 4:53
  he's
• 4:53
  going
• 4:54
  into
• 4:54
  fifth
• 4:54
  grade.
• 4:55
  Congratulations,
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  Parker,
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  on
• 4:56
  graduating
• 4:57
  grade
• 4:57
  four.
• 4:58
  That's
• 4:58
  fantastic.
• 4:59
  We
• 4:59
  have
• 4:59
  a
• 5:00
  weird
• 5:00
  system
• 5:00
  here
• 5:01
  where
• 5:01
  we
• 5:01
  live
• 5:01
  where
• 5:01
  they
• 5:02
  end
• 5:02
  elementary
• 5:03
  at
• 5:03
  fourth
• 5:03
  grade.
• 5:04
  So
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  he's
• 5:04
  going
• 5:04
  into
• 5:04
  middle
• 5:05
  school
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  next
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  year.
• 5:05
  That's
• 5:06
  why
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  said
• 5:06
  mentioned
• 5:07
  graduated.
• 5:08
  Right.
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  Because
• 5:09
  my
• 5:09
  grandson
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  is
• 5:10
  just
• 5:10
  graduated
• 5:11
  grade
• 5:11
  six.
• 5:12
  Okay.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:14
  that's.
• 5:14
  So
• 5:14
  it's
• 5:15
  kindergarten
• 5:15
  to
• 5:16
  six.
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  Is
• 5:16
  elementary
• 5:17
  where
• 5:17
  I
• 5:17
  live?
• 5:17
  That's
• 5:18
  what
• 5:18
  I'm
• 5:18
  used
• 5:18
  to.
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  But
• 5:19
  they
• 5:19
  had
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  graduation
• 5:20
  ceremony
• 5:20
  and
• 5:21
  everything
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  for
• 5:21
  him
• 5:21
  in
• 5:21
  fourth
• 5:22
  grade
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  because
• 5:22
  we
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  have
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  middle
• 5:23
  school,
• 5:23
  which
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  is
• 5:24
  five,
• 5:24
  six,
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  then
• 5:25
  a
• 5:26
  junior
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  high,
• 5:26
  which
• 5:26
  is
• 5:27
  seven,
• 5:27
  eight.
• 5:28
  Yeah.
• 5:28
  And
• 5:28
  ours,
• 5:28
  junior
• 5:29
  high
• 5:29
  is
• 5:29
  seven,
• 5:30
  eight,
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  nine.
• 5:31
  Oh,
• 5:31
  okay.
• 5:32
  Yeah.
• 5:33
  So
• 5:33
  there
• 5:33
  we
• 5:33
  go.
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  The
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  first
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  thing
• 5:35
  I'd
• 5:35
  like
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  ask
• 5:36
  both
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  you
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  is
• 5:38
  what
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  does
• 5:38
  it
• 5:38
  mean
• 5:38
  to
• 5:39
  be
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  children's
• 5:39
  book
• 5:40
  author?
• 5:42
  Oh,
• 5:42
  what
• 5:43
  does
• 5:43
  it
• 5:43
  mean
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  be
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  children's
• 5:43
  book
• 5:44
  author?
• 5:44
  Do
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  have
• 5:45
  an
• 5:45
  answer?
• 5:47
  Parker's
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  a
• 5:48
  little
• 5:48
  bit
• 5:48
  shy,
• 5:49
  so
• 5:49
  he's
• 5:49
  nodding
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  shaking
• 5:50
  his
• 5:50
  head
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  over
• 5:51
  here
• 5:52
  for
• 5:52
  me.
• 5:52
  I've
• 5:53
  always
• 5:53
  wanted
• 5:53
  to
• 5:54
  be
• 5:54
  an
• 5:54
  author
• 5:54
  my
• 5:54
  whole
• 5:55
  life.
• 5:55
  I'm
• 5:55
  now
• 5:56
  middle
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  aged,
• 5:57
  coming
• 5:57
  out
• 5:57
  with
• 5:58
  my
• 5:58
  first
• 5:58
  book.
• 5:58
  But
• 5:59
  life
• 5:59
  takes
• 5:59
  detours
• 6:00
  along
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  way.
• 6:01
  But
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  do
• 6:01
  remember
• 6:03
  having
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  this
• 6:04
  sense
• 6:04
  of
• 6:05
  looking
• 6:05
  at.
• 6:05
  It
• 6:06
  was
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  children's
• 6:06
  picture
• 6:07
  book.
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  wish
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  remembered
• 6:08
  which
• 6:08
  one,
• 6:08
  but
• 6:08
  I
• 6:09
  don't.
• 6:09
  But
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  was
• 6:10
  looking
• 6:10
  at
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  book
• 6:11
  and
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  was
• 6:11
  thinking
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  myself,
• 6:13
  there's
• 6:13
  people
• 6:14
  behind
• 6:14
  these
• 6:14
  books.
• 6:14
  Somebody
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  writes
• 6:15
  these
• 6:15
  books.
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  And
• 6:16
  I
• 6:16
  had
• 6:16
  this
• 6:17
  thought
• 6:17
  of,
• 6:18
  that's
• 6:18
  who
• 6:18
  I
• 6:19
  am.
• 6:19
  I'm
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  writer.
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  was
• 6:21
  five,
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  want
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  say,
• 6:22
  okay,
• 6:23
  somewhere
• 6:23
  around
• 6:23
  kindergarten
• 6:24
  age.
• 6:25
  So
• 6:26
  debuting
• 6:27
  with
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  children's
• 6:27
  picture
• 6:28
  book,
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  feel
• 6:28
  is
• 6:29
  like
• 6:29
  coming
• 6:29
  full
• 6:29
  circle
• 6:30
  for
• 6:30
  me
• 6:30
  because
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  first
• 6:31
  book
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  looked
• 6:32
  at
• 6:32
  when
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  realized
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  wanted
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  be
• 6:33
  an
• 6:34
  author
• 6:34
  was
• 6:34
  a
• 6:35
  children's
• 6:35
  picture
• 6:35
  book.
• 6:37
  And
• 6:37
  Parker,
• 6:38
  why
• 6:38
  did
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  want
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  become
• 6:39
  a
• 6:39
  children's
• 6:39
  book
• 6:40
  author?
• 6:41
  I'll
• 6:41
  tell
• 6:41
  them
• 6:42
  this.
• 6:42
  Tell
• 6:42
  them
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  story
• 6:43
  about
• 6:43
  how
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  came
• 6:43
  up
• 6:43
  with
• 6:43
  the
• 6:44
  book.
• 6:44
  Maybe
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  book
• 6:45
  idea.
• 6:48
  So
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  think
• 6:48
  it
• 6:48
  was
• 6:48
  something.
• 6:49
  You
• 6:49
  were
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  bed
• 6:50
  and
• 6:50
  you
• 6:50
  heard
• 6:50
  noises
• 6:51
  in
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  kitchen.
• 6:52
  Is
• 6:52
  that
• 6:53
  true?
• 6:54
  Yes.
• 6:55
  Then
• 6:55
  what
• 6:55
  happened?
• 6:56
  Mommy
• 6:57
  came
• 6:57
  in
• 6:57
  and
• 6:58
  I
• 6:58
  tried
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  help
• 6:58
  him
• 6:59
  get
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  sleep
• 7:00
  by
• 7:00
  telling
• 7:01
  him
• 7:01
  what
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  noises
• 7:01
  actually
• 7:02
  were,
• 7:02
  of
• 7:02
  course.
• 7:03
  Which
• 7:03
  just
• 7:03
  like
• 7:03
  the
• 7:04
  mom
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  book,
• 7:04
  he
• 7:05
  did
• 7:05
  not
• 7:05
  believe
• 7:05
  me.
• 7:07
  So
• 7:08
  then
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  tried
• 7:09
  something
• 7:09
  different.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  asked
• 7:10
  him,
• 7:10
  what
• 7:10
  do
• 7:11
  you
• 7:11
  think
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  sounds
• 7:12
  are?
• 7:12
  And
• 7:12
  what
• 7:12
  did
• 7:12
  you
• 7:13
  say?
• 7:15
  Yeah,
• 7:15
  he
• 7:15
  said,
• 7:15
  creepy
• 7:16
  Pickles.
• 7:16
  So
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  changed
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  title
• 7:18
  to
• 7:18
  Monster
• 7:18
  Pickles
• 7:19
  because
• 7:19
  there
• 7:19
  is
• 7:19
  a
• 7:20
  creepy
• 7:20
  book
• 7:20
  series.
• 7:21
  Creepy
• 7:22
  crayon,
• 7:22
  creepy
• 7:22
  pair
• 7:22
  of
• 7:23
  underwear.
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  think
• 7:23
  it
• 7:24
  starts
• 7:24
  with
• 7:24
  creepy
• 7:24
  carrots.
• 7:25
  Our
• 7:25
  publisher
• 7:26
  suggests
• 7:26
  we.
• 7:27
  We
• 7:27
  not
• 7:27
  use
• 7:27
  creepy
• 7:28
  title
• 7:28
  Creepy
• 7:29
  for
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  reason.
• 7:30
  So
• 7:30
  we
• 7:30
  did.
• 7:30
  But
• 7:30
  he
• 7:30
  did
• 7:31
  say
• 7:31
  creepy
• 7:31
  pickles
• 7:32
  originally.
• 7:32
  But
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  thought
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  answer
• 7:33
  was
• 7:34
  so
• 7:34
  funny
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  weird,
• 7:34
  like
• 7:35
  pickles,
• 7:35
  really,
• 7:36
  Sarah.
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  for
• 7:38
  Parker,
• 7:38
  was
• 7:39
  that
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  inspiration
• 7:40
  to,
• 7:41
  like.
• 7:42
  Then
• 7:42
  how
• 7:42
  did
• 7:42
  you
• 7:42
  say,
• 7:43
  oh,
• 7:43
  my
• 7:43
  goodness,
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  think
• 7:44
  this
• 7:44
  would
• 7:44
  be
• 7:45
  a
• 7:45
  great
• 7:45
  story
• 7:46
  for
• 7:47
  a
• 7:47
  children's
• 7:47
  book.
• 7:48
  Tell
• 7:48
  us.
• 7:48
  Yeah,
• 7:48
  I
• 7:49
  didn't
• 7:49
  at
• 7:49
  first.
• 7:50
  My
• 7:50
  thought
• 7:50
  was,
• 7:50
  what
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  weird
• 7:51
  answer.
• 7:52
  Yeah.
• 7:52
  So
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  just
• 7:53
  asked
• 7:53
  them
• 7:53
  more
• 7:54
  questions.
• 7:54
  Pickles.
• 7:54
  Why
• 7:55
  pickles?
• 7:55
  What
• 7:56
  are
• 7:56
  these
• 7:56
  pickles
• 7:56
  about?
• 7:56
  What
• 7:57
  are
• 7:57
  these
• 7:57
  pickles
• 7:57
  doing?
• 7:58
  And
• 7:58
  as
• 7:58
  you
• 7:58
  started
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  answer
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  questions,
• 8:00
  that's
• 8:00
  when
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  story
• 8:01
  started
• 8:01
  to
• 8:02
  emerge
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  we
• 8:03
  Eventually,
• 8:03
  I
• 8:04
  think
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  was
• 8:04
  probably
• 8:04
  Mommy
• 8:05
  that
• 8:05
  had
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  idea,
• 8:06
  let's
• 8:06
  turn
• 8:06
  this
• 8:06
  into
• 8:06
  a
• 8:07
  book.
• 8:07
  Because
• 8:07
  it
• 8:08
  seemed
• 8:08
  like
• 8:08
  a
• 8:08
  really
• 8:08
  fun
• 8:09
  story.
• 8:09
  So
• 8:10
  did
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  start
• 8:11
  sit
• 8:11
  down
• 8:11
  and
• 8:13
  write
• 8:13
  together
• 8:13
  at
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  kitchen
• 8:14
  table
• 8:15
  or
• 8:15
  go
• 8:15
  get
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  notebook
• 8:16
  or
• 8:16
  how
• 8:17
  did
• 8:17
  you
• 8:17
  get
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  story
• 8:18
  started?
• 8:19
  Do
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  remember
• 8:19
  any
• 8:20
  of
• 8:20
  that,
• 8:20
  sweetheart?
• 8:23
  Yeah,
• 8:23
  we
• 8:23
  came.
• 8:23
  He
• 8:24
  originally
• 8:24
  came
• 8:24
  up
• 8:24
  with
• 8:25
  this
• 8:25
  idea.
• 8:25
  I
• 8:26
  want
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  say
• 8:26
  he
• 8:26
  was
• 8:26
  in
• 8:26
  kindergarten.
• 8:27
  If
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  look
• 8:28
  back
• 8:28
  at
• 8:28
  my
• 8:28
  spreadsheet
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  the
• 8:30
  timeline
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  querying
• 8:30
  agents,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  can
• 8:31
  probably
• 8:31
  give
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  an
• 8:32
  exact
• 8:32
  date,
• 8:33
  but
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  was.
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  want
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  guess
• 8:34
  he
• 8:34
  was
• 8:34
  around
• 8:34
  a
• 8:35
  kindergarten.
• 8:36
  Yeah.
• 8:36
  Sometimes
• 8:37
  when
• 8:37
  people
• 8:37
  ask
• 8:38
  him
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  question,
• 8:38
  he
• 8:39
  doesn't
• 8:39
  quite
• 8:39
  remember.
• 8:40
  But
• 8:40
  I.
• 8:40
  I
• 8:41
  just
• 8:41
  started
• 8:41
  writing
• 8:41
  down
• 8:41
  his
• 8:42
  ideas.
• 8:42
  I'd
• 8:42
  ask
• 8:42
  him,
• 8:43
  okay,
• 8:43
  what
• 8:43
  are
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  pickles
• 8:44
  doing?
• 8:44
  What
• 8:44
  do
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  pickles
• 8:45
  do
• 8:45
  next?
• 8:45
  Tell
• 8:46
  me
• 8:46
  more
• 8:46
  about
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  pickles.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  would
• 8:47
  just
• 8:47
  start
• 8:47
  writing
• 8:48
  down
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  ideas,
• 8:48
  remember?
• 8:50
  And
• 8:50
  then
• 8:50
  we
• 8:51
  originally
• 8:51
  had
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  draft
• 8:52
  that
• 8:53
  didn't
• 8:53
  look
• 8:53
  anything
• 8:54
  like
• 8:54
  what
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  book
• 8:55
  looks
• 8:55
  like
• 8:55
  now,
• 8:55
  which
• 8:56
  is
• 8:56
  probably
• 8:56
  pretty
• 8:57
  common
• 8:57
  for
• 8:57
  many
• 8:57
  writers.
• 8:58
  Yes.
• 8:59
  But
• 8:59
  then
• 8:59
  one
• 8:59
  day,
• 9:00
  Orion's
• 9:01
  voice
• 9:01
  popped
• 9:01
  into
• 9:01
  my
• 9:02
  head.
• 9:02
  So
• 9:02
  he's
• 9:02
  one
• 9:02
  of
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  main
• 9:03
  characters
• 9:03
  in
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  book,
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  he's
• 9:04
  actually
• 9:04
  the
• 9:05
  narrator
• 9:05
  in
• 9:05
  telling
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  story.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  once
• 9:06
  his
• 9:07
  voice
• 9:07
  popped
• 9:07
  into
• 9:07
  my
• 9:08
  head,
• 9:08
  then
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  story
• 9:08
  kind
• 9:09
  of
• 9:09
  wrote
• 9:09
  itself,
• 9:09
  but
• 9:10
  I'd
• 9:10
  keep.
• 9:10
  So
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  did
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  Words.
• 9:12
  But
• 9:12
  he
• 9:12
  did
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  ideas.
• 9:13
  He
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  idea
• 9:14
  guy.
• 9:14
  So
• 9:15
  I
• 9:15
  would
• 9:15
  run
• 9:15
  my
• 9:16
  drafts
• 9:16
  by
• 9:16
  him
• 9:16
  and
• 9:17
  say,
• 9:17
  is
• 9:17
  this
• 9:17
  what
• 9:17
  you
• 9:18
  want?
• 9:18
  Is
• 9:18
  this.
• 9:18
  Are
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  pickles
• 9:19
  doing
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  things
• 9:19
  that
• 9:20
  you're
• 9:20
  imagining?
• 9:20
  Those
• 9:21
  kind
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  things.
• 9:21
  Do
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  like
• 9:22
  where
• 9:22
  this
• 9:22
  is
• 9:22
  going?
• 9:22
  That
• 9:22
  kind
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  thing?
• 9:23
  Mommy
• 9:23
  would
• 9:24
  draft
• 9:24
  it,
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  then
• 9:24
  he
• 9:25
  would
• 9:25
  give
• 9:25
  his
• 9:25
  seal
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  approval
• 9:27
  or
• 9:28
  not.
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  wrote
• 9:28
  our
• 9:28
  first
• 9:29
  children's
• 9:29
  book
• 9:29
  with
• 9:30
  my
• 9:30
  oldest
• 9:30
  granddaughter.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  similar
• 9:33
  in
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  way
• 9:33
  that
• 9:34
  her
• 9:34
  and
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  did
• 9:34
  a
• 9:35
  lot
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  adventures
• 9:35
  together
• 9:36
  in
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  Rocky
• 9:36
  Mountains.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  ultimately,
• 9:38
  it
• 9:39
  was
• 9:39
  her
• 9:39
  idea
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  said,
• 9:40
  we've
• 9:40
  done
• 9:41
  so
• 9:41
  many
• 9:41
  adventures.
• 9:42
  Can
• 9:42
  we
• 9:42
  turn
• 9:43
  them
• 9:43
  into
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  children's
• 9:44
  book?
• 9:44
  And
• 9:45
  so
• 9:45
  there
• 9:46
  was
• 9:46
  a
• 9:46
  farmer's
• 9:46
  market
• 9:47
  where
• 9:48
  we
• 9:48
  were
• 9:48
  living,
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  we
• 9:49
  went
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  purchased
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  notebook,
• 9:51
  and
• 9:51
  then
• 9:52
  we
• 9:52
  started
• 9:52
  writing
• 9:52
  our
• 9:53
  story.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:54
  then
• 9:54
  from
• 9:55
  there,
• 9:55
  it
• 9:55
  was
• 9:55
  interesting
• 9:56
  because
• 9:56
  every
• 9:57
  Saturday,
• 9:57
  we'd
• 9:58
  go
• 9:58
  and
• 9:58
  write
• 9:58
  the
• 9:59
  story.
• 9:59
  And
• 9:59
  then
• 10:00
  eventually
• 10:01
  we
• 10:01
  got
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  story
• 10:01
  done.
• 10:02
  But
• 10:02
  then
• 10:03
  we
• 10:03
  had
• 10:03
  so
• 10:03
  many
• 10:03
  other
• 10:04
  ideas.
• 10:04
  Our
• 10:05
  book
• 10:05
  is
• 10:05
  full
• 10:06
  of
• 10:06
  about
• 10:07
  38
• 10:07
  different
• 10:08
  stories,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  it.
• 10:09
  Oh,
• 10:10
  wow.
• 10:10
  Yeah.
• 10:10
  Yeah.
• 10:11
  All
• 10:11
  sit.
• 10:11
  All
• 10:12
  stemmed
• 10:12
  from
• 10:13
  sitting
• 10:13
  down
• 10:13
  and
• 10:14
  putting
• 10:15
  ideas
• 10:15
  down
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  paper.
• 10:16
  So
• 10:16
  it's
• 10:16
  nice
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  you,
• 10:17
  as
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  mother,
• 10:18
  can
• 10:18
  take
• 10:18
  those
• 10:19
  ideas
• 10:19
  from
• 10:20
  Parker
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  then
• 10:21
  put
• 10:22
  them
• 10:22
  down
• 10:22
  on
• 10:22
  paper.
• 10:23
  So
• 10:23
  that's
• 10:23
  fantastic.
• 10:24
  Yeah.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  it's
• 10:25
  great
• 10:25
  bonding
• 10:26
  time.
• 10:26
  I'm
• 10:26
  sure
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  found
• 10:27
  that
• 10:27
  with
• 10:27
  your
• 10:27
  granddaughter,
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  was
• 10:28
  a
• 10:29
  project
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  we
• 10:29
  were
• 10:29
  working
• 10:30
  on
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  doing
• 10:30
  together.
• 10:31
  Absolutely.
• 10:32
  This
• 10:32
  question,
• 10:33
  Sarah,
• 10:33
  is
• 10:33
  for
• 10:34
  you.
• 10:34
  So
• 10:35
  I'm
• 10:35
  just
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  little
• 10:36
  bit
• 10:36
  curious
• 10:36
  on
• 10:38
  when
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  started
• 10:39
  this
• 10:39
  journey.
• 10:40
  Parker
• 10:40
  just
• 10:41
  graduated
• 10:41
  grade
• 10:42
  four.
• 10:42
  You
• 10:42
  said
• 10:42
  you
• 10:42
  started
• 10:43
  the.
• 10:43
  Started
• 10:44
  this
• 10:44
  journey
• 10:44
  when
• 10:45
  he
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  kindergarten.
• 10:46
  So
• 10:46
  about
• 10:46
  four
• 10:46
  years
• 10:47
  ago.
• 10:47
  Yeah.
• 10:48
  Did
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  start
• 10:49
  formulating,
• 10:50
  or
• 10:50
  do
• 10:50
  you
• 10:51
  have
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  book
• 10:52
  business
• 10:52
  plan
• 10:53
  for
• 10:53
  this
• 10:53
  book?
• 10:55
  We
• 10:55
  have
• 10:55
  a
• 10:56
  marketing
• 10:56
  plan,
• 10:57
  if
• 10:57
  that's
• 10:57
  what
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  mean
• 10:57
  by
• 10:58
  business
• 10:58
  plan.
• 10:59
  Okay.
• 11:00
  But
• 11:00
  this,
• 11:01
  us
• 11:01
  being
• 11:01
  new
• 11:01
  to
• 11:02
  this,
• 11:02
  it's
• 11:02
  a
• 11:02
  trial
• 11:02
  and
• 11:03
  error
• 11:03
  process
• 11:03
  of
• 11:04
  trying
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  figure
• 11:04
  out
• 11:04
  what
• 11:05
  works
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  what
• 11:05
  doesn't.
• 11:06
  We
• 11:06
  have
• 11:06
  done
• 11:06
  a
• 11:07
  bunch
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  school
• 11:07
  visits.
• 11:08
  Parker
• 11:08
  got
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  chance.
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  really
• 11:10
  wanted
• 11:10
  this
• 11:10
  book
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  come
• 11:10
  out
• 11:11
  before
• 11:11
  he
• 11:11
  graduated
• 11:12
  fourth
• 11:12
  grade
• 11:13
  so
• 11:13
  he'd
• 11:13
  get
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  share
• 11:13
  it
• 11:13
  with
• 11:13
  his
• 11:14
  school,
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  he
• 11:14
  did
• 11:14
  get
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  chance
• 11:15
  to
• 11:15
  do
• 11:15
  that.
• 11:16
  Oh,
• 11:16
  cool.
• 11:16
  Yeah.
• 11:17
  So
• 11:17
  that
• 11:17
  was
• 11:17
  super
• 11:18
  fun.
• 11:18
  And
• 11:18
  then
• 11:19
  because
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  book
• 11:20
  came
• 11:20
  out
• 11:20
  May
• 11:20
  1,
• 11:21
  our
• 11:21
  publisher
• 11:22
  actually
• 11:22
  chose
• 11:22
  that
• 11:23
  date
• 11:23
  because
• 11:23
  she
• 11:23
  was
• 11:24
  thinking
• 11:24
  that
• 11:24
  we'd
• 11:25
  be
• 11:25
  able
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  do
• 11:25
  school
• 11:25
  visits
• 11:26
  at
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  end
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  year
• 11:26
  when
• 11:27
  teachers
• 11:27
  needed
• 11:28
  people
• 11:28
  to
• 11:28
  come
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  fill
• 11:29
  in
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  extra
• 11:30
  time
• 11:30
  after
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  teachers
• 11:31
  have
• 11:31
  finished
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  curriculum,
• 11:32
  that
• 11:32
  kind
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  thing.
• 11:33
  Okay.
• 11:33
  But
• 11:33
  she
• 11:34
  may
• 11:34
  not
• 11:34
  have
• 11:34
  realized,
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  didn't
• 11:35
  know
• 11:35
  enough
• 11:35
  to
• 11:36
  tell
• 11:36
  her,
• 11:36
  because,
• 11:36
  again,
• 11:37
  Being
• 11:37
  new
• 11:37
  at
• 11:37
  this,
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  didn't
• 11:38
  know
• 11:39
  how
• 11:39
  long
• 11:39
  it
• 11:40
  even
• 11:40
  set
• 11:40
  up
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  school
• 11:41
  visit
• 11:41
  or
• 11:41
  when
• 11:42
  I'd
• 11:42
  get
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  arc,
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  advanced
• 11:43
  reader
• 11:43
  copy
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  be
• 11:44
  able
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  chair
• 11:44
  and
• 11:45
  that
• 11:45
  kind
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  thing.
• 11:46
  So
• 11:46
  we
• 11:46
  didn't
• 11:46
  really
• 11:47
  get
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  chance
• 11:47
  to
• 11:48
  visit
• 11:49
  more
• 11:49
  elementary
• 11:50
  schools
• 11:50
  than
• 11:50
  just
• 11:50
  his.
• 11:51
  But
• 11:51
  we
• 11:51
  had
• 11:51
  been
• 11:52
  visiting
• 11:52
  daycares
• 11:53
  like
• 11:53
  that
• 11:53
  run
• 11:54
  summer
• 11:54
  camps
• 11:54
  during
• 11:54
  the
• 11:55
  summer.
• 11:55
  Oh,
• 11:56
  great
• 11:56
  idea.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:57
  oftentimes
• 11:58
  since
• 11:58
  it's
• 11:58
  summer,
• 12:00
  they
• 12:00
  have
• 12:00
  older
• 12:01
  kids
• 12:01
  as
• 12:01
  well,
• 12:01
  not
• 12:02
  just
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  little
• 12:02
  kids.
• 12:03
  So
• 12:03
  preschool
• 12:03
  through
• 12:04
  elementary.
• 12:04
  And
• 12:04
  so
• 12:05
  that's
• 12:05
  who
• 12:05
  we've
• 12:05
  been
• 12:05
  presenting
• 12:06
  to.
• 12:06
  So
• 12:07
  that's
• 12:07
  been
• 12:07
  super
• 12:07
  fun.
• 12:08
  The
• 12:08
  marketing
• 12:09
  plan
• 12:10
  doesn't
• 12:10
  necessarily
• 12:11
  translate
• 12:12
  into
• 12:12
  a
• 12:13
  sales
• 12:13
  plan,
• 12:13
  is
• 12:13
  that
• 12:14
  correct?
• 12:14
  And
• 12:14
  what
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  mean
• 12:14
  by
• 12:15
  that
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  most.
• 12:16
  I've
• 12:16
  done
• 12:16
  some
• 12:17
  school
• 12:17
  visits.
• 12:18
  Of
• 12:18
  course,
• 12:18
  children
• 12:19
  aren't
• 12:19
  carrying
• 12:19
  20
• 12:20
  bucks
• 12:20
  in
• 12:20
  their
• 12:20
  pockets
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  write
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  book.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:23
  tell
• 12:24
  us
• 12:24
  how
• 12:26
  you
• 12:26
  see
• 12:26
  your
• 12:27
  marketing
• 12:27
  plan
• 12:28
  developing
• 12:29
  into
• 12:30
  sales.
• 12:32
  Yeah,
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  is
• 12:33
  an
• 12:33
  excellent
• 12:33
  question.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  again,
• 12:35
  being
• 12:36
  new
• 12:36
  at
• 12:36
  this,
• 12:36
  I'm
• 12:36
  not
• 12:37
  entirely
• 12:37
  sure
• 12:37
  because
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  did
• 12:38
  do
• 12:38
  the
• 12:39
  research.
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  looked
• 12:40
  at
• 12:40
  other
• 12:40
  authors
• 12:40
  launch
• 12:41
  plans
• 12:41
  and
• 12:42
  what
• 12:42
  they
• 12:42
  do
• 12:42
  to
• 12:43
  market
• 12:43
  books.
• 12:43
  And
• 12:43
  so
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  wrote
• 12:44
  everything
• 12:44
  down.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  am
• 12:45
  again,
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  trial
• 12:46
  and
• 12:46
  error
• 12:47
  process
• 12:47
  trying
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  figure
• 12:48
  out
• 12:48
  what
• 12:48
  works.
• 12:48
  I've
• 12:49
  done
• 12:49
  things
• 12:49
  like
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  have
• 12:49
  an
• 12:50
  author
• 12:50
  newsletter.
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  actually
• 12:51
  had
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  newsletter
• 12:52
  previous
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  this,
• 12:53
  but
• 12:53
  that's
• 12:54
  because
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  also
• 12:54
  have
• 12:55
  a
• 12:55
  side
• 12:56
  gig,
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  guess
• 12:56
  you
• 12:56
  call
• 12:57
  it.
• 12:57
  Okay.
• 12:57
  As
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  freelance
• 12:58
  writer.
• 12:59
  It
• 12:59
  was
• 12:59
  connected
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  that,
• 13:00
  but
• 13:00
  I've
• 13:01
  morphed
• 13:02
  it
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  little
• 13:02
  bit
• 13:03
  into
• 13:03
  being
• 13:03
  more
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  the
• 13:04
  author
• 13:04
  newsletter.
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  was
• 13:05
  hoping
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  use
• 13:06
  some
• 13:07
  of
• 13:07
  my
• 13:07
  freelance
• 13:08
  writing
• 13:08
  to
• 13:08
  promote
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  book,
• 13:09
  but
• 13:09
  so
• 13:10
  far
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  hasn't
• 13:10
  gone
• 13:11
  anywhere.
• 13:11
  I
• 13:12
  think
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  may
• 13:12
  be
• 13:12
  because
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  lot
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  times
• 13:14
  publications
• 13:14
  don't
• 13:15
  want
• 13:15
  you
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  sound
• 13:15
  too
• 13:16
  much
• 13:16
  like
• 13:16
  you're
• 13:16
  promoing
• 13:17
  your
• 13:17
  work.
• 13:18
  I've
• 13:18
  tried
• 13:18
  to.
• 13:18
  I've
• 13:19
  tried
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  come
• 13:19
  up
• 13:19
  with
• 13:19
  topics
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  were
• 13:20
  maybe
• 13:20
  tangential,
• 13:21
  but
• 13:21
  so
• 13:22
  far
• 13:22
  I've
• 13:22
  only
• 13:22
  had
• 13:22
  a
• 13:23
  couple
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  those.
• 13:23
  Get
• 13:24
  accepted
• 13:25
  as
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  freelance
• 13:25
  writer,
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  have
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  send
• 13:26
  out
• 13:26
  pitches.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  send
• 13:27
  out
• 13:27
  pitches
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  different
• 13:28
  publications,
• 13:29
  different
• 13:29
  editors.
• 13:30
  Sometimes
• 13:30
  you're
• 13:30
  working
• 13:30
  with
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  same
• 13:31
  person,
• 13:31
  but
• 13:32
  it
• 13:32
  can
• 13:32
  be
• 13:32
  hit
• 13:32
  or
• 13:32
  miss,
• 13:33
  what
• 13:33
  they
• 13:33
  need
• 13:33
  at
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  time
• 13:34
  or
• 13:34
  what
• 13:34
  they
• 13:34
  want
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  accept.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:35
  that
• 13:36
  was
• 13:36
  unique,
• 13:36
  I
• 13:36
  think,
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  my
• 13:37
  marketing
• 13:37
  plan.
• 13:38
  Let's
• 13:38
  see
• 13:39
  what
• 13:39
  else
• 13:39
  is
• 13:39
  in
• 13:39
  my
• 13:40
  marketing
• 13:40
  plan.
• 13:40
  Well,
• 13:40
  I
• 13:40
  noticed
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  had
• 13:41
  you
• 13:42
  offer
• 13:42
  variations
• 13:43
  of
• 13:43
  school
• 13:44
  visits.
• 13:44
  The
• 13:44
  only
• 13:45
  thing
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  didn't
• 13:45
  see,
• 13:46
  and
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  again,
• 13:48
  as
• 13:48
  I've
• 13:48
  interviewed
• 13:49
  children's
• 13:49
  book
• 13:50
  authors,
• 13:50
  there's
• 13:50
  different
• 13:51
  ways
• 13:51
  that
• 13:51
  people
• 13:52
  approach
• 13:52
  it,
• 13:52
  but
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  didn't
• 13:53
  see
• 13:53
  any
• 13:54
  prices
• 13:54
  listed.
• 13:55
  Yeah,
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  don't
• 13:56
  see
• 13:56
  it
• 13:57
  as
• 13:57
  A
• 13:57
  revenue
• 13:57
  source.
• 13:58
  I
• 13:59
  do.
• 14:00
  Again,
• 14:01
  that
• 14:01
  was
• 14:01
  one
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  things
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  was
• 14:02
  trying
• 14:02
  to
• 14:03
  feel
• 14:03
  out.
• 14:04
  So
• 14:05
  as
• 14:05
  far
• 14:06
  as
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  schools
• 14:07
  that
• 14:07
  we're
• 14:07
  going
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  now,
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  summer
• 14:08
  daycare
• 14:09
  camps,
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  really
• 14:10
  don't
• 14:11
  have
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  budget
• 14:11
  for
• 14:12
  author
• 14:12
  visits
• 14:13
  because,
• 14:13
  as
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  can
• 14:13
  imagine,
• 14:14
  daycares
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  preschools
• 14:15
  and
• 14:16
  whatnot,
• 14:16
  they're
• 14:16
  all.
• 14:16
  They're
• 14:17
  operating
• 14:17
  on
• 14:17
  very
• 14:17
  limited
• 14:18
  budget
• 14:18
  budgets.
• 14:19
  They're
• 14:19
  not
• 14:19
  public.
• 14:20
  So
• 14:20
  those
• 14:21
  of
• 14:21
  us
• 14:21
  parents
• 14:21
  who
• 14:22
  know,
• 14:22
  we
• 14:22
  pay
• 14:22
  a
• 14:22
  lot
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  money
• 14:23
  for
• 14:23
  our
• 14:23
  kids
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  go
• 14:24
  there,
• 14:25
  but
• 14:25
  unfortunately,
• 14:26
  that
• 14:26
  money
• 14:26
  doesn't
• 14:26
  actually
• 14:26
  really
• 14:27
  go
• 14:27
  that
• 14:27
  far.
• 14:27
  It
• 14:28
  pays
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  staff,
• 14:28
  it
• 14:29
  pays
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  teachers,
• 14:29
  so
• 14:29
  there's
• 14:30
  not
• 14:30
  a
• 14:30
  whole
• 14:30
  lot
• 14:30
  extra
• 14:31
  for
• 14:31
  that.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:32
  I
• 14:32
  have
• 14:32
  been
• 14:32
  doing
• 14:33
  those
• 14:33
  visits
• 14:33
  for
• 14:34
  free
• 14:34
  with
• 14:35
  the.
• 14:35
  What's
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  word
• 14:36
  I'm
• 14:36
  looking
• 14:36
  for?
• 14:37
  As
• 14:37
  long
• 14:37
  as
• 14:37
  they
• 14:38
  agree
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  distribute
• 14:39
  our
• 14:39
  order
• 14:39
  form.
• 14:40
  Of
• 14:40
  course,
• 14:40
  we're
• 14:41
  not
• 14:41
  making
• 14:41
  much
• 14:41
  money
• 14:42
  on
• 14:42
  the
• 14:42
  cost
• 14:42
  of
• 14:42
  each
• 14:43
  book.
• 14:43
  Right.
• 14:44
  So
• 14:44
  it's.
• 14:45
  That's
• 14:45
  not
• 14:45
  really
• 14:45
  paying
• 14:45
  for
• 14:46
  itself
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  that
• 14:46
  way.
• 14:47
  But
• 14:47
  we're
• 14:47
  having
• 14:47
  fun
• 14:47
  and
• 14:48
  we're
• 14:48
  learning,
• 14:48
  so
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  see
• 14:49
  it
• 14:49
  as
• 14:49
  a
• 14:49
  learning
• 14:49
  opportunity.
• 14:50
  Okay.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  then
• 14:51
  when
• 14:51
  we
• 14:51
  start
• 14:52
  approaching
• 14:52
  elementary
• 14:53
  schools
• 14:53
  in
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  fall,
• 14:54
  public
• 14:54
  schools
• 14:55
  generally
• 14:55
  have
• 14:55
  bigger
• 14:55
  budgets,
• 14:56
  although
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  never
• 14:57
  know,
• 14:57
  for
• 14:58
  author
• 14:58
  visits.
• 14:58
  And
• 14:58
  so
• 14:59
  then
• 14:59
  we'll
• 14:59
  try
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  start
• 14:59
  offering
• 15:00
  money,
• 15:00
  because
• 15:01
  one
• 15:01
  of
• 15:01
  the
• 15:02
  things
• 15:02
  that
• 15:02
  my
• 15:03
  publisher
• 15:03
  did
• 15:03
  tell
• 15:04
  me
• 15:05
  is
• 15:05
  that
• 15:06
  if
• 15:06
  you
• 15:06
  offer
• 15:06
  author
• 15:07
  visits
• 15:07
  for
• 15:07
  free,
• 15:08
  you're
• 15:08
  undercutting
• 15:09
  other
• 15:09
  authors
• 15:10
  because
• 15:10
  authors
• 15:11
  do
• 15:11
  this
• 15:11
  as
• 15:11
  a
• 15:11
  business.
• 15:12
  And
• 15:12
  of
• 15:13
  course,
• 15:13
  when
• 15:13
  you
• 15:14
  go
• 15:14
  and
• 15:14
  visit
• 15:14
  schools,
• 15:15
  because
• 15:15
  you're
• 15:15
  not
• 15:16
  really
• 15:16
  making
• 15:16
  that
• 15:16
  much
• 15:17
  money
• 15:17
  off
• 15:17
  each
• 15:18
  book
• 15:18
  and
• 15:18
  you
• 15:18
  really
• 15:19
  can't
• 15:19
  account
• 15:19
  for
• 15:19
  how
• 15:20
  many
• 15:20
  books
• 15:20
  you'll
• 15:20
  sell
• 15:21
  anyway,
• 15:21
  like
• 15:22
  you
• 15:22
  were
• 15:22
  saying
• 15:22
  earlier,
• 15:23
  your
• 15:23
  target
• 15:23
  reader
• 15:24
  is
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  kid,
• 15:25
  but
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  kid
• 15:25
  doesn't
• 15:26
  necessarily
• 15:26
  have
• 15:26
  20
• 15:27
  bucks
• 15:27
  on
• 15:27
  them
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  buy
• 15:27
  a
• 15:28
  book.
• 15:28
  Absolutely.
• 15:29
  We've
• 15:29
  had
• 15:29
  great
• 15:29
  reception
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  book.
• 15:30
  The
• 15:31
  kids
• 15:31
  have
• 15:31
  been
• 15:31
  super
• 15:31
  excited.
• 15:32
  Almost
• 15:33
  everywhere
• 15:33
  we
• 15:33
  went,
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  kids
• 15:34
  have
• 15:34
  started
• 15:34
  took
• 15:35
  up
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  chant
• 15:35
  of,
• 15:36
  read
• 15:36
  it
• 15:36
  again,
• 15:36
  read
• 15:37
  it
• 15:37
  again.
• 15:37
  Nice,
• 15:38
  Nice.
• 15:39
  But
• 15:39
  you
• 15:40
  know
• 15:40
  how
• 15:40
  that
• 15:40
  translates
• 15:41
  into
• 15:41
  going
• 15:41
  home
• 15:41
  and
• 15:41
  saying,
• 15:42
  mommy,
• 15:42
  Daddy,
• 15:42
  buy
• 15:43
  me
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  book.
• 15:43
  You
• 15:44
  never
• 15:44
  know.
• 15:44
  And
• 15:44
  plus,
• 15:45
  you're
• 15:45
  not
• 15:45
  making
• 15:45
  that
• 15:45
  much
• 15:45
  per
• 15:46
  book.
• 15:46
  Anyway,
• 15:46
  to
• 15:47
  your
• 15:47
  question,
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  probably
• 15:49
  will
• 15:49
  revise
• 15:49
  my
• 15:50
  website
• 15:50
  because
• 15:50
  I
• 15:51
  always
• 15:51
  did
• 15:51
  have
• 15:52
  in
• 15:52
  mind
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  idea
• 15:53
  of
• 15:53
  charging.
• 15:53
  What
• 15:54
  I'll
• 15:54
  do
• 15:54
  is
• 15:55
  I'm
• 15:55
  gonna.
• 15:56
  I'll
• 15:56
  do.
• 15:56
  I'll
• 15:57
  do
• 15:57
  two
• 15:57
  things
• 15:57
  for
• 15:58
  you.
• 15:58
  I'll
• 15:59
  send
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  a
• 15:59
  link
• 15:59
  to
• 16:00
  podcast
• 16:00
  episode
• 16:01
  28.
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  did,
• 16:01
  where
• 16:02
  we
• 16:02
  actually
• 16:02
  talked
• 16:03
  about
• 16:04
  paid
• 16:05
  and
• 16:05
  unpaid
• 16:06
  visits
• 16:06
  and
• 16:06
  how
• 16:06
  to
• 16:07
  go
• 16:07
  setting
• 16:07
  it
• 16:07
  up.
• 16:08
  And
• 16:08
  in
• 16:08
  that
• 16:09
  link,
• 16:09
  you'll
• 16:09
  find
• 16:10
  one
• 16:10
  of
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  children's
• 16:12
  book
• 16:12
  authors
• 16:12
  that
• 16:12
  I
• 16:13
  interviewed.
• 16:14
  She
• 16:14
  has
• 16:15
  done
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  best
• 16:16
  job
• 16:16
  I've
• 16:16
  ever
• 16:17
  seen
• 16:17
  of
• 16:17
  setting
• 16:18
  up
• 16:18
  her
• 16:18
  website
• 16:19
  to
• 16:20
  reflect
• 16:21
  on
• 16:21
  cost
• 16:22
  of
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  school
• 16:23
  visit.
• 16:23
  So,
• 16:24
  yeah,
• 16:24
  I
• 16:24
  would
• 16:24
  love
• 16:24
  that
• 16:24
  link.
• 16:25
  Thank
• 16:25
  you.
• 16:25
  It'll
• 16:25
  just
• 16:26
  help
• 16:26
  you
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  give
• 16:27
  you
• 16:27
  some
• 16:27
  guidance
• 16:27
  and
• 16:28
  then
• 16:28
  you
• 16:28
  can
• 16:28
  take
• 16:28
  it.
• 16:28
  Yeah.
• 16:29
  Because
• 16:29
  that's
• 16:30
  mostly
• 16:30
  what
• 16:31
  I've
• 16:31
  been
• 16:31
  doing
• 16:31
  is
• 16:32
  just
• 16:32
  looking
• 16:32
  at
• 16:32
  other
• 16:32
  children's
• 16:33
  book
• 16:33
  author
• 16:33
  websites
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  seeing
• 16:34
  how
• 16:34
  they
• 16:34
  do
• 16:35
  it.
• 16:35
  But
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  did
• 16:36
  come
• 16:36
  across,
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  think
• 16:37
  it
• 16:37
  was
• 16:38
  a
• 16:38
  blog
• 16:38
  maybe,
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  read,
• 16:39
  where
• 16:40
  one
• 16:40
  of
• 16:41
  the
• 16:41
  children's
• 16:41
  book
• 16:41
  authors
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  talking
• 16:42
  about
• 16:43
  how
• 16:43
  if
• 16:43
  you
• 16:44
  don't
• 16:45
  include
• 16:45
  prices
• 16:45
  on
• 16:46
  your
• 16:46
  website,
• 16:46
  some
• 16:47
  authors
• 16:47
  don't,
• 16:47
  so
• 16:47
  you
• 16:48
  kind
• 16:48
  of
• 16:48
  have
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  feel
• 16:48
  it
• 16:48
  out
• 16:49
  what
• 16:49
  works.
• 16:49
  But
• 16:50
  this
• 16:50
  particular
• 16:51
  author,
• 16:51
  I
• 16:51
  don't
• 16:52
  remember
• 16:52
  the
• 16:53
  name,
• 16:53
  but
• 16:53
  I'm
• 16:53
  pretty
• 16:53
  sure
• 16:53
  it
• 16:54
  was
• 16:54
  a
• 16:54
  blog
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  was
• 16:54
  reading,
• 16:55
  mentioned
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  if
• 16:55
  you
• 16:56
  don't
• 16:56
  offer
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  prices
• 16:57
  on
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  website,
• 16:58
  in
• 16:58
  her
• 16:58
  experience,
• 16:59
  people
• 17:00
  will
• 17:00
  just
• 17:00
  pass
• 17:00
  you
• 17:00
  by
• 17:01
  because
• 17:01
  they
• 17:01
  don't
• 17:02
  want
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  ask
• 17:02
  and
• 17:03
  then
• 17:03
  be
• 17:03
  like,
• 17:03
  that's
• 17:03
  too
• 17:04
  much.
• 17:04
  They
• 17:04
  want
• 17:05
  an
• 17:05
  idea
• 17:05
  of
• 17:05
  what
• 17:05
  is
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  investment
• 17:06
  here.
• 17:07
  I
• 17:07
  think
• 17:07
  if
• 17:07
  you
• 17:08
  publish
• 17:08
  a
• 17:08
  price
• 17:09
  and
• 17:09
  then
• 17:09
  you
• 17:10
  could
• 17:10
  have
• 17:10
  some
• 17:10
  flexibility,
• 17:11
  for
• 17:11
  sure.
• 17:12
  Yeah.
• 17:12
  And
• 17:12
  that's
• 17:13
  what
• 17:13
  I
• 17:13
  was
• 17:13
  thinking.
• 17:13
  Put
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  price
• 17:14
  on
• 17:14
  there,
• 17:15
  but
• 17:15
  then
• 17:15
  maybe
• 17:15
  like
• 17:15
  an
• 17:16
  asterisk
• 17:16
  or
• 17:16
  something
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  says
• 17:17
  for
• 17:18
  schools
• 17:18
  on
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  tight
• 17:18
  budget
• 17:19
  or
• 17:19
  whatnot,
• 17:20
  there's
• 17:20
  discounts
• 17:21
  available.
• 17:21
  Something
• 17:22
  like
• 17:22
  that.
• 17:22
  Yeah.
• 17:22
  I'll
• 17:23
  send
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  link.
• 17:24
  So
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  want
• 17:24
  to
• 17:24
  talk
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  about
• 17:25
  your
• 17:25
  publishing
• 17:26
  approach
• 17:26
  because
• 17:26
  you've
• 17:27
  talked
• 17:27
  about
• 17:27
  your
• 17:27
  publisher
• 17:28
  several
• 17:29
  times
• 17:29
  now.
• 17:29
  There's
• 17:30
  indie
• 17:31
  publishing,
• 17:31
  which
• 17:32
  is
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  act
• 17:32
  as
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  publisher.
• 17:34
  There's
• 17:34
  self
• 17:35
  publishing,
• 17:35
  where
• 17:35
  you
• 17:35
  get
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  hybrid
• 17:36
  publisher,
• 17:37
  and
• 17:37
  then
• 17:37
  there's
• 17:38
  traditional
• 17:38
  publishing,
• 17:39
  where
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  publisher
• 17:40
  actually
• 17:41
  takes
• 17:42
  on
• 17:42
  all
• 17:42
  the
• 17:43
  responsibility
• 17:43
  of
• 17:44
  your
• 17:44
  book.
• 17:44
  Tell
• 17:45
  us
• 17:45
  about
• 17:45
  your
• 17:45
  publishing
• 17:46
  approach.
• 17:47
  Okay,
• 17:47
  I
• 17:48
  am
• 17:48
  going
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  talk
• 17:48
  about
• 17:48
  that,
• 17:49
  and
• 17:49
  I
• 17:49
  would
• 17:49
  love
• 17:49
  to
• 17:49
  talk
• 17:49
  about
• 17:50
  that,
• 17:50
  but
• 17:50
  Parker
• 17:50
  is
• 17:51
  tapping
• 17:51
  me
• 17:51
  on
• 17:51
  the
• 17:52
  shoulder.
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  think
• 17:52
  he
• 17:52
  wants
• 17:53
  to
• 17:53
  say
• 17:53
  something.
• 17:54
  Oh,
• 17:54
  sure.
• 17:54
  Fire
• 17:55
  away,
• 17:55
  if
• 17:55
  that's
• 17:56
  okay.
• 17:56
  Yeah,
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  know.
• 17:57
  Absolutely.
• 17:59
  What's
• 17:59
  up,
• 17:59
  buttercup?
• 18:01
  Oh,
• 18:01
  I
• 18:02
  think
• 18:02
  he
• 18:02
  lost
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  thought.
• 18:03
  Sorry.
• 18:03
  Oh,
• 18:03
  okay.
• 18:04
  Yeah.
• 18:05
  You
• 18:05
  know
• 18:05
  what,
• 18:05
  Parker?
• 18:06
  Jump
• 18:06
  in
• 18:06
  anytime.
• 18:08
  Yeah,
• 18:09
  just
• 18:09
  interrupt
• 18:10
  us.
• 18:10
  It's
• 18:10
  okay.
• 18:11
  Yeah.
• 18:11
  So
• 18:11
  we
• 18:12
  ultimately
• 18:12
  went
• 18:12
  with
• 18:12
  hybrid
• 18:13
  publishing,
• 18:14
  and
• 18:15
  that
• 18:15
  took
• 18:16
  a
• 18:16
  long
• 18:16
  time
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  come
• 18:16
  to
• 18:17
  that
• 18:17
  decision.
• 18:17
  Because
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  thing
• 18:18
  about
• 18:18
  hybrid
• 18:19
  publishing
• 18:19
  is
• 18:20
  that
• 18:20
  it's
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  middle
• 18:21
  ground
• 18:21
  between
• 18:22
  self
• 18:22
  publishing
• 18:22
  and
• 18:23
  traditional
• 18:23
  publishing.
• 18:24
  But
• 18:24
  you
• 18:24
  still.
• 18:25
  The
• 18:25
  middle
• 18:25
  ground
• 18:25
  part
• 18:26
  is
• 18:26
  that
• 18:26
  like
• 18:26
  self
• 18:27
  publishing,
• 18:27
  you're
• 18:27
  taking
• 18:28
  on
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  risk.
• 18:28
  You're
• 18:28
  fronting
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  money,
• 18:29
  in
• 18:29
  other
• 18:29
  words.
• 18:30
  Yes,
• 18:30
  but
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  hybrid
• 18:31
  publisher
• 18:31
  does
• 18:32
  everything
• 18:32
  a
• 18:32
  traditional
• 18:33
  publisher
• 18:33
  does
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  terms
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  finding
• 18:35
  you,
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  illustrator,
• 18:36
  working
• 18:36
  with
• 18:37
  them,
• 18:37
  designing
• 18:37
  the
• 18:38
  book
• 18:38
  formatting.
• 18:38
  It,
• 18:39
  getting
• 18:39
  it
• 18:39
  uploaded
• 18:39
  and
• 18:40
  distributed
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  all
• 18:40
  the
• 18:41
  sites
• 18:41
  and
• 18:41
  all
• 18:41
  that
• 18:41
  kind
• 18:41
  of
• 18:42
  thing,
• 18:42
  which.
• 18:43
  All
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  that
• 18:43
  learning,
• 18:44
  trying
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  learn
• 18:44
  all
• 18:45
  that
• 18:45
  felt
• 18:45
  really
• 18:45
  daunting
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  me,
• 18:46
  especially
• 18:47
  since
• 18:47
  I
• 18:47
  don't
• 18:48
  personally
• 18:48
  know
• 18:49
  any
• 18:49
  illustrators
• 18:49
  and
• 18:50
  didn't
• 18:50
  know
• 18:50
  how
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  go
• 18:50
  about
• 18:50
  finding
• 18:51
  them.
• 18:51
  So
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  was
• 18:51
  also
• 18:51
  a
• 18:52
  crucial
• 18:52
  kind
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  piece
• 18:53
  of.
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  did
• 18:54
  take
• 18:54
  almost
• 18:54
  three
• 18:55
  years,
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  wanna
• 18:56
  say,
• 18:56
  trying
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  find
• 18:57
  an
• 18:57
  agent
• 18:57
  for
• 18:57
  the
• 18:58
  book.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:59
  as
• 18:59
  we
• 18:59
  probably
• 18:59
  all
• 19:00
  know,
• 19:00
  that
• 19:00
  is
• 19:00
  super
• 19:01
  difficult.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:02
  I've
• 19:03
  heard
• 19:03
  on
• 19:03
  average
• 19:03
  this
• 19:04
  day,
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  used
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  be
• 19:04
  like,
• 19:05
  on
• 19:05
  average
• 19:05
  three
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  five
• 19:06
  years.
• 19:06
  Now
• 19:07
  it's
• 19:07
  taking
• 19:07
  an
• 19:07
  average
• 19:08
  of
• 19:08
  five
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  10
• 19:08
  years
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  find
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  right
• 19:10
  agent.
• 19:11
  But
• 19:11
  I
• 19:11
  was
• 19:11
  getting
• 19:11
  a
• 19:12
  lot
• 19:12
  of
• 19:12
  what
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  like
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  call
• 19:13
  glowing
• 19:13
  rejections,
• 19:14
  in
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  sense
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  would
• 19:15
  actually
• 19:15
  get
• 19:16
  responses
• 19:16
  back
• 19:17
  from
• 19:17
  agents
• 19:17
  that
• 19:18
  were
• 19:18
  saying
• 19:18
  things
• 19:18
  like,
• 19:18
  great
• 19:19
  idea
• 19:19
  or
• 19:20
  wonderful
• 19:20
  book.
• 19:20
  I
• 19:21
  even
• 19:21
  got
• 19:21
  one
• 19:21
  that
• 19:21
  said,
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  know
• 19:22
  you'll
• 19:22
  be
• 19:23
  successful
• 19:23
  with
• 19:23
  this
• 19:24
  book,
• 19:24
  but
• 19:25
  not
• 19:25
  for
• 19:25
  me.
• 19:25
  Agents
• 19:26
  have
• 19:26
  their
• 19:26
  particular
• 19:27
  lists.
• 19:27
  They
• 19:28
  have
• 19:28
  their
• 19:28
  list,
• 19:28
  and
• 19:28
  it
• 19:28
  has
• 19:29
  to
• 19:29
  fit
• 19:29
  into
• 19:29
  their
• 19:29
  list.
• 19:30
  And
• 19:30
  so
• 19:30
  they're
• 19:30
  looking
• 19:30
  for
• 19:31
  particular
• 19:31
  things.
• 19:32
  So
• 19:32
  it
• 19:32
  doesn't
• 19:33
  necessarily
• 19:33
  mean
• 19:33
  that
• 19:34
  you
• 19:34
  wrote
• 19:34
  a
• 19:34
  bad
• 19:34
  book.
• 19:35
  It
• 19:35
  just
• 19:35
  means
• 19:35
  you
• 19:35
  haven't
• 19:36
  found
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  right
• 19:36
  person
• 19:36
  yet.
• 19:37
  But
• 19:37
  Parker
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  getting
• 19:38
  older,
• 19:39
  and
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  really
• 19:39
  wanted
• 19:40
  this.
• 19:40
  Like
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  had
• 19:41
  said
• 19:41
  before,
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  really
• 19:41
  wanted
• 19:42
  him
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  have
• 19:42
  this
• 19:42
  before
• 19:43
  he
• 19:43
  graduated
• 19:44
  from
• 19:44
  elementary
• 19:44
  school.
• 19:44
  And
• 19:45
  that
• 19:45
  was
• 19:45
  happening
• 19:46
  when
• 19:46
  I'd
• 19:46
  made
• 19:47
  the
• 19:47
  decision
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  pursue
• 19:48
  the
• 19:48
  hybrid
• 19:48
  publishing.
• 19:49
  He
• 19:49
  was
• 19:50
  going
• 19:50
  into
• 19:50
  fourth
• 19:50
  grade,
• 19:51
  so
• 19:51
  this
• 19:51
  was
• 19:52
  his
• 19:52
  last
• 19:52
  year,
• 19:52
  his
• 19:53
  last
• 19:53
  chance
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  do
• 19:53
  that.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  I
• 19:54
  knew
• 19:54
  even
• 19:54
  if
• 19:54
  I
• 19:55
  did
• 19:55
  find
• 19:55
  an
• 19:55
  agent
• 19:56
  tomorrow,
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  traditional
• 19:57
  publishing
• 19:58
  processes
• 19:58
  are
• 19:59
  also
• 19:59
  super
• 19:59
  slow.
• 20:00
  Like,
• 20:00
  even
• 20:00
  after
• 20:00
  they
• 20:01
  buy
• 20:01
  your
• 20:01
  book,
• 20:01
  it
• 20:01
  can
• 20:02
  take
• 20:02
  two
• 20:02
  years
• 20:02
  for
• 20:02
  it
• 20:03
  to
• 20:03
  come
• 20:03
  out.
• 20:04
  But
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  already
• 20:04
  knew
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  publisher.
• 20:05
  I'd
• 20:06
  worked
• 20:06
  with
• 20:06
  her.
• 20:06
  She's
• 20:07
  actually
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  one
• 20:07
  who
• 20:07
  taught
• 20:08
  me
• 20:08
  how
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  write
• 20:08
  children's
• 20:09
  books.
• 20:09
  Because
• 20:10
  before,
• 20:10
  I'd
• 20:10
  been
• 20:11
  working
• 20:11
  on
• 20:11
  novels
• 20:12
  and
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  kind
• 20:12
  of
• 20:12
  thing,
• 20:12
  and
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  never
• 20:13
  had
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  idea
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  write
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  children's
• 20:14
  book
• 20:15
  until
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  had
• 20:15
  a
• 20:15
  kid.
• 20:16
  And
• 20:16
  then
• 20:16
  we
• 20:16
  were
• 20:16
  reading
• 20:17
  children's
• 20:17
  books
• 20:17
  all
• 20:18
  the
• 20:18
  time.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:18
  he
• 20:18
  would
• 20:18
  do
• 20:19
  things
• 20:19
  that
• 20:19
  would
• 20:19
  prompt
• 20:19
  ideas
• 20:20
  on
• 20:21
  that
• 20:21
  kind
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  thing.
• 20:22
  But
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  had
• 20:22
  no
• 20:22
  idea
• 20:22
  how
• 20:22
  to
• 20:22
  write
• 20:23
  children's
• 20:23
  books.
• 20:23
  So
• 20:23
  she
• 20:24
  taught
• 20:24
  me
• 20:24
  how
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  write
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  book.
• 20:25
  She
• 20:25
  also
• 20:25
  edited
• 20:26
  this
• 20:26
  particular
• 20:26
  book
• 20:27
  several
• 20:27
  times.
• 20:27
  I
• 20:28
  work
• 20:28
  with
• 20:28
  a
• 20:28
  few
• 20:28
  other
• 20:28
  editors,
• 20:29
  too,
• 20:29
  just
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  make
• 20:30
  sure
• 20:30
  it
• 20:30
  was
• 20:31
  in
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  best
• 20:31
  shape
• 20:31
  it
• 20:32
  could
• 20:32
  be
• 20:32
  before
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  tried
• 20:33
  to
• 20:33
  publish
• 20:33
  it
• 20:33
  for
• 20:34
  sure.
• 20:34
  So
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  already
• 20:34
  knew
• 20:35
  her.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:35
  so
• 20:36
  she
• 20:36
  told
• 20:36
  me.
• 20:36
  She
• 20:37
  was
• 20:37
  like,
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  can
• 20:37
  have
• 20:37
  your
• 20:37
  book
• 20:38
  out
• 20:38
  in
• 20:38
  six
• 20:38
  months.
• 20:40
  So
• 20:40
  I'm
• 20:40
  like,
• 20:40
  all
• 20:41
  right,
• 20:41
  let's
• 20:41
  do
• 20:41
  it.
• 20:42
  Fantastic.
• 20:43
  For
• 20:43
  me,
• 20:43
  it
• 20:43
  was
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  perfect
• 20:44
  blend
• 20:45
  of,
• 20:46
  you
• 20:46
  know,
• 20:46
  self
• 20:47
  publishing
• 20:47
  in
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  sense
• 20:48
  that
• 20:48
  we
• 20:48
  can
• 20:48
  turn
• 20:49
  this
• 20:49
  around
• 20:49
  really
• 20:49
  fast.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  I
• 20:50
  also
• 20:51
  had
• 20:51
  some
• 20:51
  input
• 20:52
  in
• 20:52
  it
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  you
• 20:52
  wouldn't
• 20:53
  necessarily
• 20:53
  get
• 20:54
  from
• 20:54
  a
• 20:54
  traditional
• 20:54
  publisher,
• 20:55
  like,
• 20:57
  oh,
• 20:57
  you.
• 20:58
  Parker's
• 20:58
  chiming
• 20:59
  in
• 20:59
  over
• 20:59
  here.
• 20:59
  He
• 20:59
  says
• 21:00
  he
• 21:00
  has
• 21:00
  a
• 21:00
  book
• 21:00
  idea.
• 21:01
  What's
• 21:01
  your
• 21:01
  book
• 21:01
  idea?
• 21:02
  Oh,
• 21:03
  he's
• 21:03
  going
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  tell
• 21:03
  me
• 21:04
  later.
• 21:05
  Parker
• 21:05
  always
• 21:06
  has
• 21:06
  ideas.
• 21:06
  I'll
• 21:06
  say,
• 21:07
  I'll
• 21:07
  save
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  thought.
• 21:08
  But
• 21:08
  he's
• 21:08
  full
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  them
• 21:09
  all
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  time.
• 21:09
  Ideas.
• 21:11
  But
• 21:11
  anyway,
• 21:12
  we
• 21:12
  had
• 21:12
  some
• 21:12
  input
• 21:13
  in,
• 21:13
  like,
• 21:14
  the
• 21:14
  illustrations,
• 21:14
  which
• 21:15
  was
• 21:15
  super
• 21:15
  cool.
• 21:15
  We
• 21:16
  got
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  pick
• 21:16
  from
• 21:16
  a
• 21:17
  portfolio
• 21:18
  which
• 21:18
  illustrator
• 21:19
  style
• 21:19
  we
• 21:19
  like
• 21:19
  the
• 21:20
  best.
• 21:20
  And
• 21:20
  how
• 21:20
  many
• 21:21
  illustrators
• 21:22
  were
• 21:22
  presented
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  you
• 21:23
  or
• 21:24
  styles?
• 21:24
  They
• 21:25
  presented
• 21:25
  the
• 21:26
  whole
• 21:26
  list,
• 21:26
  but
• 21:26
  then
• 21:26
  they
• 21:27
  made
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  suggestion
• 21:28
  of
• 21:28
  three
• 21:28
  that
• 21:29
  would
• 21:29
  be
• 21:29
  probably
• 21:29
  best
• 21:30
  for
• 21:30
  our
• 21:30
  book.
• 21:30
  And
• 21:31
  then
• 21:31
  they
• 21:31
  had
• 21:31
  those
• 21:32
  three
• 21:32
  illustrators
• 21:33
  give
• 21:33
  us
• 21:33
  samples,
• 21:34
  like,
• 21:34
  of
• 21:34
  what
• 21:35
  our
• 21:35
  pickles
• 21:35
  would
• 21:35
  look
• 21:35
  like
• 21:36
  and
• 21:36
  our
• 21:36
  main
• 21:36
  character
• 21:37
  would
• 21:37
  look
• 21:37
  like.
• 21:37
  And
• 21:38
  from
• 21:38
  there,
• 21:38
  we
• 21:38
  chose
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  one
• 21:39
  that.
• 21:39
  That
• 21:40
  we
• 21:40
  ended
• 21:40
  up
• 21:40
  with.
• 21:41
  Okay.
• 21:41
  But
• 21:42
  what
• 21:42
  was
• 21:42
  also
• 21:42
  cool
• 21:43
  was
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  we
• 21:43
  got
• 21:43
  to
• 21:44
  go
• 21:44
  through
• 21:44
  rounds
• 21:45
  of
• 21:45
  pictures,
• 21:46
  so
• 21:46
  we
• 21:46
  got
• 21:46
  to
• 21:47
  put
• 21:47
  input.
• 21:47
  He
• 21:48
  would
• 21:48
  make
• 21:48
  the
• 21:48
  illustrations
• 21:49
  all
• 21:49
  on
• 21:49
  his
• 21:49
  own,
• 21:50
  but
• 21:50
  then
• 21:50
  when
• 21:50
  we
• 21:51
  looked
• 21:51
  at
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  illustrations,
• 21:52
  we'd
• 21:52
  say,
• 21:52
  this
• 21:52
  is
• 21:52
  what
• 21:53
  we
• 21:53
  like,
• 21:53
  or
• 21:53
  this
• 21:53
  is
• 21:53
  what
• 21:53
  we
• 21:54
  don't
• 21:54
  like.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:54
  then
• 21:55
  they'd
• 21:55
  make
• 21:55
  revisions
• 21:56
  on
• 21:57
  both
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  sketches
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  then
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  colored
• 21:58
  art
• 21:58
  after
• 21:59
  that.
• 21:59
  And
• 21:59
  of
• 21:59
  course,
• 21:59
  with
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  traditional
• 22:00
  publisher,
• 22:01
  you
• 22:01
  don't
• 22:01
  get
• 22:01
  any
• 22:01
  say
• 22:01
  in
• 22:01
  any
• 22:01
  of
• 22:02
  that.
• 22:02
  As
• 22:02
  soon
• 22:02
  as
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  sell
• 22:03
  them
• 22:03
  your
• 22:03
  manuscript,
• 22:04
  it's
• 22:04
  gone.
• 22:04
  And
• 22:05
  Parker,
• 22:05
  did
• 22:05
  you
• 22:05
  like
• 22:06
  doing
• 22:06
  that?
• 22:06
  Did
• 22:07
  you
• 22:07
  like
• 22:07
  being
• 22:07
  involved
• 22:08
  in
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  illustration
• 22:09
  and
• 22:09
  picking
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  right
• 22:10
  one?
• 22:11
  Yes.
• 22:12
  You
• 22:12
  did.
• 22:12
  You
• 22:12
  loved
• 22:12
  it?
• 22:13
  Oh,
• 22:14
  yeah.
• 22:15
  In
• 22:16
  fact,
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  would
• 22:17
  say
• 22:17
  that
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  probably
• 22:18
  the
• 22:18
  most
• 22:18
  exciting
• 22:19
  part
• 22:19
  of
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  process,
• 22:20
  because
• 22:21
  every
• 22:21
  time
• 22:21
  they
• 22:21
  would
• 22:22
  send
• 22:22
  us
• 22:22
  example
• 22:23
  illustrations,
• 22:23
  I
• 22:23
  would
• 22:23
  show
• 22:24
  them
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  him,
• 22:24
  and
• 22:24
  you
• 22:24
  could
• 22:24
  just
• 22:25
  see
• 22:25
  his
• 22:25
  eyes
• 22:25
  light
• 22:25
  up
• 22:26
  with
• 22:26
  excitement
• 22:26
  because
• 22:27
  here
• 22:27
  was
• 22:27
  his
• 22:27
  story
• 22:28
  that
• 22:28
  somebody
• 22:28
  else
• 22:29
  was
• 22:29
  bringing
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  life
• 22:30
  in
• 22:30
  their
• 22:30
  imagination.
• 22:30
  And
• 22:31
  that's
• 22:31
  one
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  those
• 22:31
  factors
• 22:32
  that's
• 22:32
  really
• 22:32
  super
• 22:32
  cool
• 22:33
  about
• 22:33
  writing
• 22:33
  picture
• 22:34
  books.
• 22:34
  See
• 22:34
  it
• 22:34
  come
• 22:35
  alive
• 22:35
  on
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  page
• 22:36
  like
• 22:36
  that.
• 22:36
  And
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  noticed
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  gave
• 22:37
  your
• 22:38
  illustrator
• 22:38
  credit
• 22:39
  at
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  back
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  your
• 22:40
  book.
• 22:40
  So
• 22:41
  tell
• 22:41
  us
• 22:41
  that
• 22:42
  experiences,
• 22:43
  because
• 22:43
  sometimes
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  illustrator
• 22:45
  will
• 22:45
  get
• 22:45
  a
• 22:46
  name
• 22:46
  mentioned,
• 22:47
  but
• 22:47
  not
• 22:47
  much
• 22:47
  credit.
• 22:48
  You
• 22:49
  actually
• 22:49
  put
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  picture
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  illustrator
• 22:51
  with
• 22:52
  you
• 22:52
  and
• 22:52
  Parker
• 22:53
  in
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  book.
• 22:53
  Tell
• 22:54
  us
• 22:54
  about
• 22:54
  that
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  why
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  did
• 22:55
  that.
• 22:56
  To
• 22:56
  be
• 22:56
  100%
• 22:57
  honest,
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  wasn't
• 22:58
  us.
• 22:59
  That
• 22:59
  was
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  publisher.
• 23:00
  I
• 23:01
  never
• 23:01
  knew
• 23:01
  that
• 23:01
  was
• 23:01
  even
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  do
• 23:02
  or
• 23:02
  don't
• 23:03
  like.
• 23:03
  It
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  question
• 23:04
  they
• 23:04
  Took
• 23:04
  care
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  all
• 23:05
  that.
• 23:05
  The
• 23:05
  book
• 23:06
  designer.
• 23:06
  Because
• 23:06
  we
• 23:06
  had
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  book
• 23:07
  designer
• 23:07
  in
• 23:08
  addition
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  an
• 23:08
  illustrator
• 23:09
  and
• 23:09
  they
• 23:10
  did
• 23:10
  all
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  that.
• 23:11
  Okay.
• 23:12
  It
• 23:12
  was
• 23:13
  A.I.
• 23:13
  Oh,
• 23:15
  Parker
• 23:15
  says
• 23:15
  it
• 23:16
  wasn't
• 23:16
  us,
• 23:16
  it
• 23:16
  was
• 23:16
  A.I.
• 23:17
  no,
• 23:17
  we
• 23:17
  had.
• 23:17
  We
• 23:18
  had
• 23:18
  a
• 23:19
  human
• 23:19
  legitimate
• 23:20
  book
• 23:20
  designer.
• 23:21
  Excellent.
• 23:21
  To
• 23:21
  answer
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  your
• 23:22
  question,
• 23:22
  even
• 23:23
  though
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  really
• 23:23
  didn't
• 23:24
  have
• 23:24
  say
• 23:24
  in
• 23:24
  that,
• 23:25
  I'm
• 23:25
  glad
• 23:25
  he's
• 23:25
  there
• 23:26
  because
• 23:26
  I
• 23:26
  think
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  illustrators,
• 23:27
  they
• 23:27
  do
• 23:28
  a
• 23:28
  big
• 23:28
  part
• 23:28
  of
• 23:28
  bringing
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  story
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  life.
• 23:30
  They're
• 23:30
  telling
• 23:30
  stories
• 23:31
  through
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  pictures
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  same
• 23:32
  as
• 23:32
  we're
• 23:32
  telling
• 23:32
  it
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  manuscript.
• 23:34
  And
• 23:34
  there
• 23:34
  are
• 23:35
  definitely
• 23:35
  some
• 23:35
  images
• 23:36
  in
• 23:36
  there
• 23:36
  that
• 23:36
  really
• 23:37
  help
• 23:37
  tell
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  story.
• 23:38
  The
• 23:38
  final
• 23:38
  image
• 23:39
  in
• 23:39
  the
• 23:39
  book,
• 23:39
  I
• 23:39
  won't
• 23:40
  spoil
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  because
• 23:40
  it
• 23:41
  gives
• 23:41
  away
• 23:42
  what's
• 23:42
  going
• 23:42
  on
• 23:42
  in
• 23:42
  the
• 23:43
  whole
• 23:43
  book.
• 23:43
  But
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  final
• 23:44
  image
• 23:44
  I
• 23:44
  did
• 23:45
  specifically
• 23:45
  ask
• 23:46
  for,
• 23:46
  but
• 23:47
  it
• 23:47
  is
• 23:47
  an
• 23:47
  example
• 23:48
  of
• 23:49
  how
• 23:49
  important
• 23:49
  illustrations
• 23:50
  are
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  helping
• 23:51
  to
• 23:52
  tell
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  story.
• 23:52
  I'm
• 23:53
  glad
• 23:53
  he's
• 23:53
  there.
• 23:53
  I
• 23:54
  want
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  talk
• 23:54
  a
• 23:54
  little
• 23:54
  bit
• 23:55
  about
• 23:55
  your
• 23:55
  website
• 23:55
  and
• 23:56
  your
• 23:56
  website
• 23:56
  development.
• 23:57
  So
• 23:58
  as
• 23:58
  a
• 23:59
  self
• 23:59
  published
• 23:59
  author,
• 24:00
  did
• 24:00
  you
• 24:01
  launch
• 24:01
  your
• 24:01
  website
• 24:02
  before
• 24:03
  or
• 24:03
  after
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  published
• 24:04
  your
• 24:04
  book
• 24:05
  or
• 24:05
  exactly
• 24:06
  at
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  same
• 24:06
  time?
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  had
• 24:09
  launched
• 24:09
  it
• 24:09
  before
• 24:10
  because
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  wanted
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  have
• 24:11
  everything
• 24:11
  set
• 24:12
  up
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  ready
• 24:12
  to
• 24:13
  go.
• 24:14
  So
• 24:14
  it
• 24:14
  was
• 24:15
  launched
• 24:16
  in
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  sense
• 24:16
  that
• 24:16
  it
• 24:17
  was
• 24:17
  online
• 24:17
  and
• 24:17
  you
• 24:18
  could
• 24:18
  see
• 24:18
  it.
• 24:18
  But
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  did
• 24:19
  certainly
• 24:19
  fiddle
• 24:20
  with
• 24:20
  things,
• 24:20
  especially
• 24:21
  after
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  had
• 24:22
  an
• 24:22
  arc
• 24:22
  and
• 24:22
  after
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  had
• 24:23
  a
• 24:23
  cover.
• 24:23
  Because
• 24:23
  in
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  beginning
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  didn't
• 24:24
  even
• 24:24
  have
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  cover.
• 24:25
  So
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  was
• 24:26
  putting
• 24:26
  things
• 24:26
  on
• 24:26
  there
• 24:27
  that
• 24:27
  was
• 24:27
  like
• 24:27
  va.
• 24:28
  Just
• 24:28
  as
• 24:28
  a
• 24:28
  placeholder.
• 24:29
  Absolutely.
• 24:31
  And
• 24:31
  I'm
• 24:31
  continually
• 24:32
  fiddling
• 24:32
  with
• 24:33
  it,
• 24:33
  especially
• 24:33
  not
• 24:34
  necessarily
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  design
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  it,
• 24:35
  but
• 24:35
  the
• 24:36
  information
• 24:37
  as
• 24:37
  I
• 24:38
  figure
• 24:38
  things
• 24:38
  out
• 24:38
  and
• 24:39
  learn
• 24:39
  about
• 24:39
  what's.
• 24:40
  Especially
• 24:40
  with
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  marketing,
• 24:41
  what's
• 24:41
  working
• 24:41
  and
• 24:42
  what's
• 24:42
  not
• 24:42
  working.
• 24:42
  I'm
• 24:43
  always
• 24:43
  fiddling
• 24:44
  with
• 24:44
  things.
• 24:45
  You've
• 24:45
  used
• 24:45
  your
• 24:46
  name
• 24:46
  as
• 24:47
  the.
• 24:48
  For
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  website
• 24:49
  name.
• 24:51
  Yeah,
• 24:51
  that
• 24:51
  was
• 24:51
  a
• 24:52
  time
• 24:52
  thing.
• 24:53
  Okay.
• 24:54
  Because
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  have
• 24:54
  a
• 24:55
  full
• 24:55
  time
• 24:55
  job
• 24:56
  as
• 24:56
  well
• 24:56
  as
• 24:56
  this
• 24:56
  and
• 24:57
  my
• 24:57
  full
• 24:57
  time
• 24:57
  job
• 24:58
  is
• 24:58
  being
• 24:58
  a
• 24:58
  teacher.
• 24:59
  So
• 24:59
  teaching
• 25:00
  during
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  school
• 25:01
  year.
• 25:02
  Definitely.
• 25:03
  We
• 25:03
  also.
• 25:03
  Teachers
• 25:04
  also
• 25:04
  do
• 25:04
  things
• 25:04
  in
• 25:04
  the
• 25:05
  summer
• 25:05
  in
• 25:05
  terms
• 25:05
  of
• 25:06
  course
• 25:06
  planning
• 25:06
  and
• 25:06
  whatnot.
• 25:07
  But
• 25:07
  definitely
• 25:07
  during
• 25:07
  the
• 25:08
  school
• 25:08
  year.
• 25:09
  A
• 25:09
  around
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  clock,
• 25:10
  labor
• 25:10
  intensive
• 25:11
  kind
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  a
• 25:12
  job
• 25:12
  because
• 25:12
  you're
• 25:13
  always
• 25:13
  class
• 25:13
  prepping
• 25:14
  or
• 25:14
  grading
• 25:14
  something.
• 25:17
  Oh,
• 25:18
  Parker.
• 25:18
  Parker
• 25:19
  finally
• 25:19
  remembered.
• 25:20
  Sorry.
• 25:20
  Hold
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  thought.
• 25:21
  Sure.
• 25:22
  Parker
• 25:23
  finally
• 25:23
  remembered
• 25:23
  what
• 25:24
  he
• 25:24
  wanted
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  say.
• 25:24
  He
• 25:24
  said
• 25:25
  he
• 25:25
  wants
• 25:25
  these
• 25:25
  pickle
• 25:26
  books
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  actually
• 25:26
  be
• 25:26
  a
• 25:27
  trilogy.
• 25:27
  So
• 25:27
  he
• 25:27
  has
• 25:27
  an
• 25:28
  idea
• 25:28
  for
• 25:28
  three
• 25:28
  books.
• 25:29
  Oh,
• 25:29
  fantastic.
• 25:30
  And
• 25:30
  so
• 25:30
  he
• 25:30
  was
• 25:30
  saying
• 25:31
  he.
• 25:31
  He
• 25:31
  came
• 25:31
  up
• 25:32
  with
• 25:32
  an
• 25:32
  idea
• 25:32
  for
• 25:32
  the
• 25:33
  second
• 25:33
  book.
• 25:33
  That's.
• 25:34
  You
• 25:34
  said
• 25:34
  what
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  red
• 25:35
  vegetable
• 25:36
  Is
• 25:36
  there
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  specific
• 25:37
  red
• 25:37
  vegetable?
• 25:40
  A
• 25:41
  pepper.
• 25:41
  Okay,
• 25:42
  you
• 25:43
  can't.
• 25:43
  Okay,
• 25:43
  so
• 25:44
  we're
• 25:44
  working
• 25:44
  on
• 25:44
  it.
• 25:44
  We're
• 25:45
  working
• 25:45
  on
• 25:45
  manuscript
• 25:46
  number
• 25:46
  two.
• 25:46
  It's
• 25:46
  in
• 25:46
  process.
• 25:47
  Excellent.
• 25:48
  But
• 25:48
  anyway,
• 25:49
  so
• 25:49
  long
• 25:50
  story
• 25:50
  short,
• 25:51
  and
• 25:51
  because
• 25:51
  I'm
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  teacher
• 25:52
  during
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  school
• 25:53
  year,
• 25:53
  that
• 25:54
  was
• 25:54
  also
• 25:54
  a
• 25:54
  reason.
• 25:55
  Sorry,
• 25:55
  I'm
• 25:55
  hopping
• 25:55
  back
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  forth
• 25:56
  between
• 25:56
  ideas.
• 25:57
  But
• 25:57
  that
• 25:57
  was
• 25:57
  also
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  reason
• 25:58
  why
• 25:59
  I'm
• 25:59
  not
• 26:00
  sure
• 26:00
  in
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  future
• 26:01
  whether
• 26:01
  I
• 26:01
  would
• 26:02
  ever
• 26:02
  choose
• 26:02
  May
• 26:02
  1st
• 26:03
  as
• 26:03
  a
• 26:03
  launch
• 26:03
  date
• 26:04
  again.
• 26:05
  Because
• 26:05
  my
• 26:06
  semester
• 26:06
  was
• 26:06
  ending
• 26:07
  at
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  same
• 26:07
  time
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  book
• 26:08
  was
• 26:08
  launching.
• 26:09
  So
• 26:09
  I
• 26:09
  was
• 26:09
  trying
• 26:09
  to
• 26:10
  do.
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  teach
• 26:10
  college.
• 26:11
  So
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  was
• 26:11
  trying
• 26:11
  to
• 26:12
  do
• 26:12
  like
• 26:12
  finals
• 26:12
  week
• 26:13
  stuff
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  launch
• 26:13
  a
• 26:14
  book
• 26:14
  at
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  same
• 26:14
  time.
• 26:15
  And
• 26:15
  that
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  really
• 26:15
  crazy.
• 26:16
  Making
• 26:17
  short
• 26:17
  answer
• 26:17
  to
• 26:17
  your
• 26:18
  question
• 26:18
  is
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  plan
• 26:19
  on
• 26:20
  making
• 26:20
  him
• 26:20
  a
• 26:20
  website.
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  just
• 26:21
  haven't
• 26:22
  gotten
• 26:22
  to
• 26:22
  it
• 26:22
  yet.
• 26:23
  Okay,
• 26:23
  so
• 26:23
  you're
• 26:23
  thinking
• 26:24
  of
• 26:24
  going
• 26:25
  to
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  monster
• 26:27
  pickle
• 26:27
  brand
• 26:28
  website,
• 26:29
  Something
• 26:30
  that's.
• 26:30
  More
• 26:30
  on
• 26:30
  brand
• 26:31
  with
• 26:31
  the
• 26:31
  pickle
• 26:31
  story?
• 26:32
  Because
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  would
• 26:33
  say
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  don't
• 26:34
  know
• 26:34
  that
• 26:34
  my
• 26:34
  website
• 26:34
  reflects
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  monster
• 26:35
  pickle
• 26:36
  idea,
• 26:36
  but
• 26:36
  it
• 26:37
  does
• 26:37
  reflect
• 26:37
  me
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  my
• 26:38
  branding.
• 26:39
  But
• 26:39
  of
• 26:40
  course,
• 26:40
  the
• 26:40
  monster
• 26:40
  pickle
• 26:41
  book
• 26:41
  was
• 26:41
  Parker's
• 26:42
  idea.
• 26:43
  So
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  think
• 26:43
  his
• 26:44
  website
• 26:44
  will
• 26:45
  look
• 26:45
  more
• 26:45
  like
• 26:45
  that
• 26:46
  book
• 26:46
  belongs
• 26:46
  on
• 26:46
  it,
• 26:47
  if
• 26:47
  that
• 26:47
  makes
• 26:47
  sense
• 26:48
  in
• 26:48
  terms
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  monster
• 26:49
  kind
• 26:49
  of
• 26:49
  stuff.
• 26:49
  And
• 26:50
  I
• 26:50
  don't
• 26:50
  know
• 26:50
  Monster
• 26:51
  pickles
• 26:51
  specifically
• 26:52
  because
• 26:52
  he
• 26:52
  does
• 26:53
  have
• 26:53
  ideas
• 26:53
  for
• 26:53
  other
• 26:53
  books
• 26:54
  also,
• 26:54
  but.
• 26:55
  But
• 26:55
  it
• 26:56
  will
• 26:56
  have
• 26:56
  more
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  that
• 26:56
  kind
• 26:57
  of
• 26:57
  feel
• 26:57
  to
• 26:57
  it,
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  think.
• 26:58
  So
• 26:59
  let's
• 26:59
  talk
• 26:59
  about
• 26:59
  character
• 27:00
  development.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  know
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  had
• 27:02
  talked
• 27:02
  about
• 27:03
  your
• 27:03
  main
• 27:03
  character
• 27:04
  is
• 27:05
  Orion
• 27:05
  Sinclair,
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  monster
• 27:07
  hunter.
• 27:08
  That's
• 27:08
  a
• 27:08
  neat
• 27:08
  thing.
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  also
• 27:09
  noticed
• 27:10
  that,
• 27:10
  Parker,
• 27:11
  you're
• 27:11
  one
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  the
• 27:12
  characters
• 27:12
  in
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  book.
• 27:15
  Yep.
• 27:17
  But
• 27:17
  I
• 27:17
  noticed
• 27:17
  in
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  book
• 27:18
  Parker
• 27:18
  doesn't
• 27:19
  have
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  name
• 27:20
  because
• 27:21
  the
• 27:21
  story.
• 27:21
  Is
• 27:21
  told
• 27:21
  in
• 27:22
  second
• 27:22
  person.
• 27:23
  Going
• 27:23
  through
• 27:23
  this
• 27:24
  for
• 27:24
  aspiring
• 27:25
  children's
• 27:25
  book
• 27:26
  authors
• 27:26
  to
• 27:26
  understand
• 27:27
  why
• 27:27
  people
• 27:28
  do
• 27:28
  certain
• 27:28
  things.
• 27:29
  If
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  expand
• 27:29
  on
• 27:30
  that,
• 27:30
  talk
• 27:30
  about
• 27:30
  the
• 27:31
  main.
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  think
• 27:31
  though,
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  can
• 27:32
  actually
• 27:32
  expand
• 27:33
  on
• 27:33
  that
• 27:33
  without
• 27:34
  giving
• 27:34
  away
• 27:34
  the
• 27:34
  ending.
• 27:35
  Okay.
• 27:36
  But
• 27:36
  the
• 27:36
  idea
• 27:36
  is
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  Orion
• 27:38
  is
• 27:38
  telling
• 27:38
  the
• 27:39
  story
• 27:39
  and
• 27:39
  he's
• 27:40
  telling.
• 27:40
  He's
• 27:41
  narrating
• 27:42
  to
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  main
• 27:43
  character
• 27:44
  who
• 27:44
  doesn't
• 27:44
  have
• 27:44
  a
• 27:45
  name
• 27:45
  because
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  second
• 27:45
  person.
• 27:46
  So
• 27:46
  it's
• 27:47
  always
• 27:47
  you
• 27:47
  this
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  you
• 27:48
  that.
• 27:49
  But
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  idea
• 27:50
  is
• 27:50
  that
• 27:50
  he's
• 27:51
  teaching
• 27:51
  this
• 27:52
  boy
• 27:52
  who's
• 27:52
  afraid
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  go
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  sleep
• 27:53
  because
• 27:53
  of
• 27:54
  these
• 27:54
  scary
• 27:54
  sounds.
• 27:55
  He's
• 27:55
  hearing
• 27:55
  what
• 27:55
  to
• 27:56
  do
• 27:56
  about
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  scary
• 27:57
  sounds
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  how
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  overcome
• 27:58
  his
• 27:58
  fear.
• 27:59
  But
• 27:59
  you
• 27:59
  do
• 27:59
  learn
• 28:00
  who
• 28:00
  Orion
• 28:00
  actually
• 28:01
  is
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  the
• 28:02
  end
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  book.
• 28:03
  Let's
• 28:03
  talk
• 28:03
  about
• 28:04
  your
• 28:04
  theme
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  bit.
• 28:05
  So
• 28:05
  describe
• 28:06
  without
• 28:07
  Giving
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  ending
• 28:08
  away.
• 28:08
  Describe
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  theme
• 28:09
  of
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  book.
• 28:11
  Obviously,
• 28:11
  we've
• 28:12
  been
• 28:12
  talking
• 28:12
  about
• 28:12
  how
• 28:13
  in
• 28:13
  the
• 28:14
  case
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  this
• 28:14
  book,
• 28:15
  it
• 28:16
  came
• 28:16
  from
• 28:16
  a
• 28:16
  real
• 28:16
  life
• 28:17
  situation
• 28:18
  with
• 28:18
  Parker.
• 28:19
  So
• 28:19
  talk
• 28:20
  to
• 28:20
  us
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  bit
• 28:20
  more
• 28:21
  about
• 28:21
  that
• 28:21
  whole
• 28:22
  theme.
• 28:23
  Yeah,
• 28:23
  so
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  theme
• 28:24
  is
• 28:24
  really
• 28:25
  using
• 28:25
  imagination.
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  like
• 28:26
  to
• 28:27
  say
• 28:27
  using
• 28:27
  imagination
• 28:28
  as
• 28:28
  your
• 28:28
  superpower,
• 28:29
  but
• 28:29
  it's
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  idea
• 28:29
  of
• 28:29
  using
• 28:30
  your
• 28:30
  own
• 28:30
  imagination
• 28:31
  to
• 28:31
  overcome
• 28:31
  your
• 28:32
  fears.
• 28:32
  Which
• 28:32
  is
• 28:32
  why
• 28:32
  we
• 28:33
  have
• 28:33
  these
• 28:33
  kind
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  silly
• 28:34
  villains
• 28:34
  that
• 28:35
  are
• 28:35
  monster
• 28:35
  pickles.
• 28:36
  Monster
• 28:36
  pickles
• 28:36
  aren't
• 28:37
  really
• 28:37
  speaking
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
  life.
• 28:38
  Hopefully
• 28:38
  that
• 28:39
  didn't
• 28:39
  spoil
• 28:39
  anything.
• 28:39
  But.
• 28:40
  So
• 28:40
  it's
• 28:40
  all
• 28:41
  in
• 28:41
  an
• 28:41
  imaginative
• 28:42
  kind
• 28:42
  of
• 28:42
  bedtime
• 28:43
  battle.
• 28:43
  But
• 28:44
  he's
• 28:44
  using
• 28:44
  his
• 28:44
  imagination
• 28:45
  to
• 28:45
  overcome
• 28:46
  his
• 28:46
  fears.
• 28:47
  So
• 28:47
  that's
• 28:47
  really
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  main
• 28:48
  message
• 28:48
  there.
• 28:49
  But
• 28:49
  that
• 28:50
  was
• 28:50
  also
• 28:50
  inspired
• 28:51
  by
• 28:51
  real
• 28:51
  life
• 28:52
  experience
• 28:52
  because
• 28:53
  Parker,
• 28:54
  for
• 28:54
  most
• 28:54
  of
• 28:55
  his
• 28:55
  childhood
• 28:55
  has
• 28:56
  slept
• 28:56
  with
• 28:56
  toys
• 28:57
  that
• 28:57
  he's
• 28:57
  used
• 28:58
  his
• 28:58
  imagination
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  try
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  bring
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  life
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  combat
• 29:01
  his
• 29:01
  fears.
• 29:02
  Yeah,
• 29:02
  he
• 29:03
  says
• 29:03
  literally
• 29:03
  all
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  his
• 29:04
  childhood.
• 29:06
  No,
• 29:06
  that's
• 29:07
  fantastic.
• 29:08
  No,
• 29:08
  I
• 29:09
  don't
• 29:09
  think
• 29:09
  so.
• 29:09
  Because
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  wouldn't
• 29:10
  have
• 29:10
  had.
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  don't
• 29:11
  know.
• 29:12
  I'd
• 29:12
  have
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  think
• 29:12
  on
• 29:12
  that.
• 29:13
  But
• 29:14
  that's
• 29:14
  true.
• 29:15
  I
• 29:15
  got
• 29:15
  him.
• 29:15
  Parker
• 29:16
  is
• 29:16
  actually
• 29:16
  named
• 29:16
  after
• 29:17
  Spider
• 29:17
  Man.
• 29:17
  Here's
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  little.
• 29:18
  Oh
• 29:19
  side.
• 29:20
  That's
• 29:20
  where
• 29:20
  his
• 29:20
  name
• 29:21
  comes
• 29:21
  from.
• 29:21
  As
• 29:22
  you
• 29:22
  can
• 29:22
  tell
• 29:22
  by
• 29:22
  our
• 29:23
  background
• 29:23
  here,
• 29:23
  Daddy
• 29:24
  is
• 29:24
  really
• 29:24
  into
• 29:25
  superheroes.
• 29:26
  Actually,
• 29:26
  believe
• 29:26
  it
• 29:26
  or
• 29:27
  not,
• 29:27
  he.
• 29:27
  My
• 29:27
  husband
• 29:28
  likes
• 29:28
  to
• 29:28
  say
• 29:28
  that
• 29:28
  was
• 29:29
  not.
• 29:29
  Not
• 29:29
  actually
• 29:29
  his
• 29:30
  idea.
• 29:30
  I
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  just
• 29:31
  for
• 29:31
  fun
• 29:31
  one
• 29:32
  day
• 29:32
  running
• 29:32
  through
• 29:32
  like
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  superhero's,
• 29:34
  like,
• 29:34
  mundane
• 29:34
  names,
• 29:35
  like
• 29:35
  their
• 29:35
  secret
• 29:35
  identity
• 29:36
  names
• 29:36
  and
• 29:37
  thinking,
• 29:37
  wouldn't
• 29:37
  it
• 29:37
  be
• 29:37
  fun
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  name
• 29:38
  Parker
• 29:39
  after
• 29:39
  a
• 29:39
  superhero?
• 29:40
  And
• 29:40
  I
• 29:40
  said,
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  could
• 29:41
  have
• 29:41
  been
• 29:41
  out
• 29:42
  loud,
• 29:42
  Clark.
• 29:43
  Yeah,
• 29:44
  he
• 29:44
  could
• 29:44
  have.
• 29:45
  But
• 29:46
  when
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  said
• 29:46
  Peter
• 29:46
  Parker,
• 29:47
  I
• 29:47
  was
• 29:47
  like,
• 29:47
  parker.
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  really
• 29:48
  like
• 29:49
  that
• 29:49
  name.
• 29:49
  Let's
• 29:49
  use
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  one.
• 29:50
  That's
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  great
• 29:50
  name.
• 29:51
  That
• 29:51
  is
• 29:51
  a
• 29:51
  great
• 29:51
  name.
• 29:52
  Ironically,
• 29:52
  his
• 29:53
  favorite
• 29:53
  superhero
• 29:54
  is
• 29:54
  Batman.
• 29:54
  But
• 29:55
  I'm
• 29:55
  not.
• 29:56
  I
• 29:56
  don't
• 29:56
  know
• 29:56
  about.
• 29:56
  You
• 29:57
  would
• 29:57
  have
• 29:57
  ended
• 29:57
  up
• 29:58
  being
• 29:58
  Bruce
• 29:58
  or
• 29:58
  Wayne
• 29:59
  or
• 29:59
  something.
• 30:01
  But
• 30:01
  Parker
• 30:02
  was
• 30:02
  my
• 30:02
  favorite.
• 30:02
  Alfred,
• 30:03
  isn't
• 30:03
  it?
• 30:03
  Alfred
• 30:04
  is
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  butler.
• 30:05
  Yeah,
• 30:06
  yeah,
• 30:06
  Alfred's
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  butler.
• 30:07
  Okay.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  We
• 30:09
  have
• 30:09
  a
• 30:10
  joke
• 30:10
  in
• 30:10
  my
• 30:10
  house
• 30:11
  that
• 30:11
  I.
• 30:11
  What?
• 30:11
  Parker
• 30:12
  asked
• 30:12
  me
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  do
• 30:12
  things
• 30:13
  as
• 30:13
  kids
• 30:13
  ask
• 30:13
  their
• 30:14
  mother,
• 30:14
  can
• 30:14
  you
• 30:14
  get
• 30:14
  me
• 30:14
  a
• 30:15
  drink?
• 30:15
  Can
• 30:15
  you
• 30:15
  get
• 30:15
  me
• 30:15
  a
• 30:16
  snack?
• 30:16
  And
• 30:16
  I'm
• 30:16
  like,
• 30:16
  what
• 30:17
  am
• 30:17
  I,
• 30:17
  Alfred?
• 30:18
  There
• 30:19
  you
• 30:19
  go.
• 30:20
  So
• 30:20
  I
• 30:20
  want
• 30:20
  to
• 30:21
  talk
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  you
• 30:21
  about
• 30:21
  the.
• 30:22
  How
• 30:22
  your
• 30:22
  book
• 30:23
  formats
• 30:24
  support
• 30:24
  your
• 30:24
  theme.
• 30:25
  Because
• 30:25
  what
• 30:25
  I
• 30:26
  loved
• 30:26
  is
• 30:26
  you.
• 30:27
  You
• 30:27
  did
• 30:28
  something
• 30:28
  different.
• 30:28
  And
• 30:29
  I
• 30:29
  know
• 30:29
  I'm
• 30:30
  not
• 30:30
  giving
• 30:30
  anything
• 30:30
  away.
• 30:31
  Explain
• 30:32
  to
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  audience
• 30:32
  how
• 30:33
  you
• 30:33
  set
• 30:33
  up
• 30:33
  your
• 30:34
  layout
• 30:35
  for
• 30:35
  your
• 30:35
  rules.
• 30:36
  Because
• 30:36
  Your
• 30:36
  rule
• 30:37
  page
• 30:37
  is
• 30:37
  different
• 30:38
  from
• 30:39
  the.
• 30:39
  About
• 30:39
  the
• 30:40
  first
• 30:40
  seven
• 30:40
  pages
• 30:41
  in
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  book.
• 30:41
  And
• 30:41
  then
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  get
• 30:42
  to
• 30:42
  rule
• 30:43
  number
• 30:43
  one.
• 30:43
  Explain
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  us
• 30:44
  how
• 30:45
  you
• 30:45
  came
• 30:45
  up
• 30:45
  with
• 30:46
  that
• 30:46
  whole
• 30:47
  layout
• 30:47
  idea.
• 30:48
  Yeah.
• 30:49
  So
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  idea
• 30:50
  is
• 30:51
  again,
• 30:51
  that
• 30:51
  Orion
• 30:52
  is
• 30:52
  teaching
• 30:52
  the
• 30:53
  main
• 30:53
  character
• 30:53
  how
• 30:53
  to
• 30:53
  deal
• 30:54
  with
• 30:54
  the
• 30:54
  monster
• 30:54
  pickles.
• 30:55
  So
• 30:55
  he's
• 30:55
  going.
• 30:56
  This
• 30:56
  list
• 30:56
  of
• 30:56
  things
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  do.
• 30:57
  In
• 30:58
  my
• 30:58
  original
• 30:58
  imagining
• 30:59
  of
• 30:59
  the
• 30:59
  book,
• 31:00
  this
• 31:00
  is
• 31:00
  where
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  rules
• 31:01
  actually
• 31:01
  came
• 31:01
  from.
• 31:02
  The
• 31:02
  final
• 31:02
  scene
• 31:02
  in
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  book
• 31:03
  was
• 31:03
  going
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  have
• 31:05
  a
• 31:05
  notebook
• 31:05
  or
• 31:06
  something
• 31:06
  sitting
• 31:06
  on
• 31:07
  the
• 31:07
  nightstand
• 31:07
  where
• 31:07
  he
• 31:07
  was
• 31:08
  writing
• 31:08
  this
• 31:08
  down.
• 31:09
  The
• 31:10
  main
• 31:10
  character
• 31:10
  in
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  book.
• 31:11
  So
• 31:11
  that's
• 31:11
  where
• 31:11
  that
• 31:11
  came
• 31:11
  from.
• 31:12
  It's
• 31:12
  like
• 31:12
  step
• 31:12
  one,
• 31:13
  step
• 31:13
  two.
• 31:13
  This
• 31:13
  is
• 31:14
  how
• 31:14
  you
• 31:14
  fight
• 31:14
  the
• 31:14
  pickles.
• 31:15
  But
• 31:15
  I
• 31:16
  don't
• 31:16
  know,
• 31:16
  it
• 31:16
  might
• 31:16
  give
• 31:16
  something
• 31:17
  away,
• 31:17
  but
• 31:17
  we
• 31:17
  might
• 31:18
  do
• 31:18
  that
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  book
• 31:18
  two.
• 31:20
  I
• 31:20
  have
• 31:20
  an
• 31:21
  idea
• 31:21
  of
• 31:21
  putting
• 31:21
  together
• 31:21
  a
• 31:22
  monster
• 31:22
  manual.
• 31:23
  Great
• 31:23
  idea.
• 31:24
  The
• 31:25
  actual
• 31:25
  layout
• 31:25
  itself
• 31:26
  was
• 31:26
  that
• 31:26
  you
• 31:27
  guys
• 31:27
  throwing
• 31:28
  ideas
• 31:28
  around
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  then
• 31:29
  going
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  the
• 31:30
  illustrator?
• 31:31
  Yeah.
• 31:32
  You
• 31:32
  mean
• 31:32
  the.
• 31:33
  How
• 31:33
  the
• 31:33
  pictures
• 31:33
  are
• 31:33
  laid
• 31:33
  out
• 31:33
  in
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  book?
• 31:34
  Yeah,
• 31:34
  because
• 31:34
  you
• 31:35
  actually
• 31:35
  put
• 31:35
  the
• 31:35
  rule
• 31:36
  number
• 31:36
  one
• 31:37
  or
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  rules
• 31:37
  in
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  box.
• 31:39
  Oh,
• 31:39
  yeah.
• 31:39
  No,
• 31:40
  that
• 31:40
  was
• 31:40
  something
• 31:40
  that
• 31:41
  the.
• 31:41
  I
• 31:41
  think
• 31:41
  the
• 31:42
  book
• 31:42
  designer
• 31:43
  did
• 31:43
  that
• 31:43
  part.
• 31:44
  Okay.
• 31:44
  Because
• 31:44
  the
• 31:45
  illustrator,
• 31:45
  when
• 31:46
  we
• 31:46
  saw
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  illustrations,
• 31:47
  they
• 31:47
  didn't
• 31:47
  have
• 31:47
  any
• 31:47
  words
• 31:48
  on
• 31:48
  them
• 31:48
  at
• 31:48
  first.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:49
  then
• 31:49
  at
• 31:49
  one
• 31:50
  point
• 31:50
  in
• 31:50
  the
• 31:50
  process,
• 31:50
  we
• 31:51
  would
• 31:51
  see
• 31:51
  little
• 31:51
  notes
• 31:52
  on
• 31:52
  there
• 31:52
  from
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  book
• 31:53
  designer
• 31:53
  saying,
• 31:53
  this
• 31:54
  is
• 31:54
  going
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  be
• 31:54
  in
• 31:54
  the
• 31:55
  margin.
• 31:55
  Move
• 31:55
  this
• 31:55
  over,
• 31:56
  or
• 31:56
  things
• 31:57
  like
• 31:57
  that.
• 31:57
  And
• 31:58
  then
• 31:58
  eventually,
• 31:59
  when
• 31:59
  we
• 31:59
  saw
• 31:59
  everything
• 32:00
  finally
• 32:00
  together,
• 32:01
  that's
• 32:01
  when
• 32:01
  they
• 32:01
  put
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  words
• 32:02
  in,
• 32:02
  because
• 32:03
  some
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  words
• 32:03
  are
• 32:04
  graphic
• 32:04
  and
• 32:04
  like
• 32:04
  you
• 32:05
  said,
• 32:05
  some
• 32:05
  are
• 32:05
  in
• 32:05
  boxes.
• 32:06
  So
• 32:06
  I
• 32:06
  think
• 32:07
  that
• 32:07
  was
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  book
• 32:07
  designer
• 32:08
  that
• 32:08
  did
• 32:08
  all
• 32:08
  of
• 32:09
  that.
• 32:09
  Yeah.
• 32:09
  Great.
• 32:10
  And
• 32:10
  in
• 32:10
  terms
• 32:10
  of
• 32:11
  what
• 32:11
  the
• 32:11
  book
• 32:11
  looks
• 32:11
  like
• 32:11
  and
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  illustrations,
• 32:12
  we
• 32:13
  didn't
• 32:13
  really
• 32:13
  tell
• 32:13
  them
• 32:14
  too
• 32:14
  much
• 32:14
  about
• 32:14
  what
• 32:14
  to
• 32:15
  do.
• 32:15
  It
• 32:15
  was
• 32:15
  more
• 32:15
  just
• 32:16
  a.
• 32:16
  They
• 32:17
  did
• 32:17
  it,
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  then
• 32:18
  they
• 32:18
  gave
• 32:18
  it
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  us
• 32:19
  and
• 32:19
  said,
• 32:19
  do
• 32:19
  you
• 32:19
  like
• 32:19
  it
• 32:20
  or
• 32:20
  not?
• 32:20
  Do
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  want
• 32:20
  us
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  change
• 32:21
  it?
• 32:21
  And
• 32:21
  we
• 32:21
  would
• 32:21
  put
• 32:22
  our
• 32:22
  input
• 32:22
  in
• 32:22
  that
• 32:23
  way
• 32:23
  after
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  fact.
• 32:25
  Talk
• 32:25
  to
• 32:25
  us
• 32:25
  a
• 32:26
  little
• 32:26
  bit
• 32:26
  more
• 32:26
  with
• 32:27
  your
• 32:27
  teaching
• 32:27
  background.
• 32:28
  Talk
• 32:28
  to
• 32:28
  us
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  little
• 32:29
  bit
• 32:29
  more
• 32:29
  about
• 32:30
  the
• 32:30
  central
• 32:30
  teaching
• 32:31
  or
• 32:31
  lesson
• 32:32
  through
• 32:32
  this
• 32:33
  book.
• 32:34
  What
• 32:35
  do
• 32:35
  you
• 32:35
  think?
• 32:35
  You
• 32:35
  want
• 32:35
  to
• 32:36
  talk
• 32:36
  about
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  imagination
• 32:37
  part
• 32:37
  of
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  book?
• 32:38
  The
• 32:38
  theme
• 32:38
  of
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  book.
• 32:39
  What
• 32:40
  lesson
• 32:40
  do
• 32:41
  you
• 32:41
  want
• 32:41
  other
• 32:41
  children
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  get
• 32:42
  out
• 32:42
  of
• 32:42
  the
• 32:42
  book,
• 32:42
  Parker?
• 32:44
  To
• 32:44
  fight
• 32:44
  their
• 32:45
  fear.
• 32:46
  Yeah.
• 32:47
  Because
• 32:47
  that
• 32:47
  was
• 32:47
  your
• 32:47
  idea,
• 32:48
  Right.
• 32:48
  Because
• 32:48
  that's
• 32:49
  what
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  do.
• 32:49
  Your
• 32:49
  fears.
• 32:52
  I
• 32:52
  used
• 32:53
  a
• 32:53
  weight
• 32:53
  blanket.
• 32:55
  Oh.
• 32:56
  He
• 32:57
  says
• 32:57
  that
• 32:57
  he
• 32:57
  goes
• 32:58
  to
• 32:58
  sleep
• 32:58
  at
• 32:58
  night
• 32:58
  with
• 32:59
  a
• 32:59
  weighted
• 32:59
  blanket.
• 32:59
  It
• 33:00
  helps.
• 33:00
  He
• 33:00
  did
• 33:00
  have
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  lot
• 33:01
  of
• 33:01
  nightmares
• 33:01
  when
• 33:02
  he
• 33:02
  was
• 33:02
  Younger.
• 33:02
  Okay.
• 33:03
  The
• 33:03
  weighted
• 33:03
  blanket
• 33:04
  seemed
• 33:04
  to
• 33:04
  help.
• 33:04
  But
• 33:05
  also,
• 33:05
  like
• 33:05
  I
• 33:06
  said
• 33:06
  earlier,
• 33:06
  toys.
• 33:07
  Like
• 33:07
  a
• 33:07
  super
• 33:08
  cape.
• 33:08
  You
• 33:08
  think
• 33:08
  of
• 33:08
  your
• 33:09
  weighted
• 33:09
  blanket
• 33:10
  as
• 33:10
  a
• 33:10
  super
• 33:10
  cape.
• 33:14
  Oh,
• 33:15
  he's.
• 33:15
  He
• 33:15
  says,
• 33:15
  I
• 33:16
  don't
• 33:16
  know
• 33:16
  if
• 33:16
  you
• 33:16
  can
• 33:16
  hear
• 33:16
  him.
• 33:16
  It
• 33:16
  says
• 33:17
  he's
• 33:17
  too
• 33:17
  heavy
• 33:17
  for
• 33:17
  that.
• 33:18
  Oh,
• 33:18
  okay.
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  want
• 33:19
  to
• 33:20
  talk
• 33:20
  to
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  now
• 33:20
  that
• 33:21
  I
• 33:21
  know
• 33:21
  you've
• 33:21
  got
• 33:21
  some
• 33:22
  other
• 33:22
  ideas
• 33:23
  formulating
• 33:24
  in
• 33:24
  your
• 33:24
  brains
• 33:25
  about
• 33:25
  other
• 33:26
  books.
• 33:27
  Give
• 33:27
  us
• 33:27
  some
• 33:28
  insight
• 33:28
  into
• 33:29
  your.
• 33:29
  How
• 33:30
  you
• 33:30
  now
• 33:30
  are
• 33:31
  developing
• 33:31
  these
• 33:32
  ideas
• 33:32
  together
• 33:33
  as
• 33:33
  a
• 33:33
  mother
• 33:33
  and
• 33:34
  son
• 33:34
  team.
• 33:36
  Yeah.
• 33:36
  So
• 33:37
  mostly
• 33:37
  it's.
• 33:38
  Parker,
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  write
• 33:39
  ideas
• 33:39
  down
• 33:39
  in
• 33:39
  your
• 33:39
  notebook.
• 33:40
  Right.
• 33:40
  Do
• 33:40
  you
• 33:41
  want.
• 33:41
  Do
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  want
• 33:41
  to
• 33:41
  say
• 33:41
  something
• 33:41
  a
• 33:42
  little
• 33:42
  bit
• 33:42
  about
• 33:42
  that?
• 33:42
  What's
• 33:43
  your
• 33:43
  part
• 33:43
  in
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  process?
• 33:45
  Make
• 33:45
  the
• 33:45
  book.
• 33:46
  She
• 33:46
  adds
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  words
• 33:47
  and
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  illustrator
• 33:48
  draws
• 33:48
  it.
• 33:50
  But
• 33:50
  he
• 33:50
  collects
• 33:51
  ideas.
• 33:51
  He
• 33:51
  just
• 33:52
  like
• 33:52
  mommy
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  daddy
• 33:53
  are
• 33:53
  writers
• 33:53
  also.
• 33:54
  Okay.
• 33:56
  We
• 33:56
  have.
• 33:56
  We.
• 33:57
  We
• 33:57
  get
• 33:57
  giddy
• 33:58
  at
• 33:58
  back
• 33:58
  to
• 33:58
  school
• 33:58
  shopping
• 33:59
  time
• 33:59
  because
• 33:59
  it's.
• 34:00
  Oh,
• 34:00
  the
• 34:00
  notebooks
• 34:00
  are
• 34:00
  out.
• 34:02
  But
• 34:03
  anyway,
• 34:03
  so
• 34:04
  he's
• 34:04
  got
• 34:04
  his
• 34:04
  own
• 34:04
  stash
• 34:05
  of
• 34:05
  notebooks
• 34:05
  and
• 34:06
  he
• 34:06
  keeps
• 34:06
  his
• 34:06
  ideas
• 34:07
  in
• 34:07
  them.
• 34:07
  And
• 34:07
  then
• 34:08
  he
• 34:08
  comes
• 34:08
  to
• 34:08
  me
• 34:08
  and
• 34:08
  says,
• 34:09
  mommy,
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  got
• 34:09
  an
• 34:09
  idea
• 34:10
  for
• 34:10
  a
• 34:10
  story.
• 34:10
  Here's
• 34:11
  what
• 34:11
  we
• 34:11
  should
• 34:11
  do.
• 34:12
  And
• 34:12
  then
• 34:13
  we
• 34:13
  go
• 34:13
  from
• 34:13
  there.
• 34:13
  That's
• 34:14
  a
• 34:14
  great
• 34:14
  process.
• 34:15
  Fantastic.
• 34:15
  Good
• 34:16
  for
• 34:16
  you,
• 34:16
  Parker.
• 34:17
  Excellent.
• 34:18
  What's
• 34:18
  your
• 34:18
  idea
• 34:18
  for
• 34:18
  a
• 34:19
  story?
• 34:19
  He
• 34:19
  says
• 34:19
  he
• 34:19
  has
• 34:19
  an
• 34:20
  idea
• 34:23
  of
• 34:23
  what?
• 34:23
  Monster
• 34:23
  pickles.
• 34:25
  Okay,
• 34:25
  that.
• 34:25
  But
• 34:26
  another.
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  want
• 34:28
  to
• 34:28
  do
• 34:28
  that.
• 34:29
  I
• 34:29
  told
• 34:29
  you
• 34:30
  about
• 34:30
  that.
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  told
• 34:31
  you
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  did
• 34:32
  want
• 34:32
  to
• 34:32
  make
• 34:32
  a
• 34:33
  graphic
• 34:33
  novel
• 34:33
  about
• 34:34
  the.
• 34:35
  But
• 34:35
  also
• 34:35
  I
• 34:35
  have
• 34:35
  a
• 34:36
  different
• 34:36
  idea.
• 34:37
  Okay.
• 34:38
  Is
• 34:38
  it
• 34:39
  like
• 34:39
  you're.
• 34:39
  He
• 34:39
  has
• 34:39
  an
• 34:40
  idea
• 34:40
  for
• 34:40
  a
• 34:40
  middle
• 34:40
  grade
• 34:41
  novel.
• 34:41
  That
• 34:41
  sounded
• 34:42
  pretty
• 34:42
  cool.
• 34:42
  Is
• 34:43
  it
• 34:43
  like
• 34:43
  that
• 34:43
  one?
• 34:44
  Venture
• 34:45
  Base.
• 34:45
  Okay.
• 34:46
  Since
• 34:46
  he's
• 34:47
  like
• 34:47
  super
• 34:47
  into
• 34:47
  superheroes
• 34:48
  and
• 34:48
  mommy
• 34:49
  is.
• 34:50
  I
• 34:50
  want
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  say
• 34:50
  for.
• 34:51
  I'm
• 34:51
  talking
• 34:51
  about
• 34:51
  myself
• 34:52
  in
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  third
• 34:52
  person.
• 34:52
  Like
• 34:53
  most
• 34:53
  parents
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  just
• 34:54
  noticed.
• 34:54
  Been
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  fantasy
• 34:55
  reader,
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  want
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  say,
• 34:57
  for
• 34:57
  at
• 34:57
  least
• 34:57
  half
• 34:58
  my
• 34:58
  life.
• 34:58
  So
• 34:59
  I
• 34:59
  always
• 34:59
  like
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  weave
• 35:00
  in
• 35:00
  magical
• 35:00
  elements
• 35:01
  into
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  stories
• 35:02
  that
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  write.
• 35:02
  So
• 35:03
  this
• 35:03
  is
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  magical
• 35:05
  idea
• 35:06
  for
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  middle
• 35:07
  grade.
• 35:07
  But
• 35:07
  it
• 35:07
  involves
• 35:08
  comics.
• 35:08
  So
• 35:09
  one
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  things
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  he
• 35:10
  said
• 35:10
  he
• 35:10
  wants
• 35:10
  to
• 35:10
  do
• 35:10
  when
• 35:11
  he
• 35:11
  grows
• 35:11
  up
• 35:11
  is
• 35:11
  write
• 35:12
  graphic
• 35:12
  novels.
• 35:13
  Oh,
• 35:14
  nice.
• 35:14
  Yeah.
• 35:15
  He
• 35:15
  also
• 35:15
  wants
• 35:15
  to
• 35:16
  make
• 35:16
  toys
• 35:17
  and
• 35:17
  make
• 35:17
  videos.
• 35:18
  It's
• 35:18
  nice
• 35:18
  that
• 35:19
  you
• 35:19
  guys
• 35:19
  have
• 35:19
  started
• 35:20
  this
• 35:20
  when
• 35:20
  he's
• 35:21
  so
• 35:21
  young.
• 35:22
  Yeah.
• 35:23
  It's
• 35:23
  also
• 35:23
  super
• 35:24
  cool
• 35:24
  that
• 35:24
  we
• 35:24
  have
• 35:24
  these
• 35:24
  tools
• 35:25
  available
• 35:25
  now
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  we
• 35:26
  didn't
• 35:26
  before
• 35:26
  because
• 35:27
  like
• 35:27
  I'd
• 35:27
  said
• 35:27
  before,
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  wanted
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  write
• 35:30
  books
• 35:30
  since
• 35:30
  I
• 35:31
  was
• 35:31
  5.
• 35:31
  I
• 35:32
  would
• 35:32
  say
• 35:32
  I
• 35:32
  can't
• 35:33
  pin.
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  remember
• 35:33
  the.
• 35:33
  Remember
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  memory,
• 35:35
  but
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  can't
• 35:35
  pinpoint
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  age.
• 35:36
  Exactly,
• 35:36
  exactly.
• 35:37
  But
• 35:37
  none
• 35:38
  of
• 35:38
  this
• 35:38
  option
• 35:39
  to
• 35:39
  self
• 35:39
  publish
• 35:40
  or
• 35:40
  hybrid
• 35:40
  publish
• 35:41
  or
• 35:41
  any
• 35:41
  of
• 35:41
  those
• 35:41
  things.
• 35:42
  We
• 35:42
  used
• 35:42
  to
• 35:43
  have
• 35:43
  something
• 35:43
  called
• 35:43
  vanity
• 35:44
  presses,
• 35:44
  but
• 35:44
  they
• 35:44
  were
• 35:44
  not
• 35:45
  hybrid
• 35:45
  publishing
• 35:46
  and
• 35:46
  something
• 35:46
  totally
• 35:47
  different.
• 35:47
  So
• 35:48
  just
• 35:48
  for
• 35:48
  anybody
• 35:49
  who's
• 35:49
  not
• 35:49
  clear
• 35:49
  about
• 35:49
  hybrid
• 35:50
  publishing,
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  wanted
• 35:50
  to
• 35:51
  make
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  clear
• 35:51
  because
• 35:52
  it's
• 35:52
  not
• 35:52
  a
• 35:52
  vanity
• 35:53
  press.
• 35:53
  It's
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  legit.
• 35:54
  It's
• 35:54
  a
• 35:54
  legit
• 35:54
  way
• 35:54
  to
• 35:54
  get
• 35:55
  something
• 35:55
  published.
• 35:56
  But
• 35:56
  what's
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  question?
• 35:58
  Get
• 35:58
  a
• 35:59
  lion's
• 35:59
  name.
• 36:01
  Yeah.
• 36:02
  Dark
• 36:02
  side
• 36:03
  Son.
• 36:04
  No.
• 36:05
  Yeah,
• 36:05
  he's.
• 36:05
  He's
• 36:06
  asking.
• 36:06
  He's
• 36:06
  talking
• 36:07
  about
• 36:07
  superheroes.
• 36:07
  So
• 36:08
  Darkseid
• 36:08
  is
• 36:08
  one
• 36:08
  of
• 36:09
  the
• 36:09
  main
• 36:09
  villains
• 36:09
  in
• 36:09
  D.C.
• 36:10
  and
• 36:10
  he
• 36:10
  has
• 36:11
  a
• 36:11
  son
• 36:11
  named
• 36:11
  Orion.
• 36:12
  But
• 36:12
  honestly,
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  didn't
• 36:13
  get
• 36:13
  it
• 36:14
  from
• 36:14
  anywhere.
• 36:14
  It
• 36:14
  just
• 36:14
  popped
• 36:15
  in
• 36:15
  my
• 36:15
  head.
• 36:16
  Sometimes
• 36:16
  inspiration
• 36:17
  just
• 36:17
  strikes
• 36:17
  like
• 36:17
  that.
• 36:18
  Absolutely.
• 36:18
  Yeah.
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  was
• 36:19
  having
• 36:19
  a
• 36:19
  tough
• 36:19
  time
• 36:20
  actually
• 36:20
  writing
• 36:20
  the
• 36:21
  story
• 36:21
  before
• 36:21
  because
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  don't.
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  don't
• 36:22
  know.
• 36:22
  Are
• 36:23
  you
• 36:23
  familiar
• 36:23
  with
• 36:23
  the
• 36:24
  children's
• 36:24
  picture
• 36:24
  book?
• 36:25
  It's
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  series
• 36:25
  called
• 36:25
  Stinky
• 36:26
  Face.
• 36:26
  I
• 36:26
  think
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  first
• 36:27
  ones
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  love
• 36:27
  use
• 36:28
  Stinky
• 36:28
  Face.
• 36:28
  There's
• 36:29
  like
• 36:29
  a
• 36:29
  good
• 36:30
  night.
• 36:30
  Stinky
• 36:31
  face.
• 36:31
  I
• 36:31
  want
• 36:31
  to
• 36:31
  say.
• 36:32
  No,
• 36:32
  I'm
• 36:32
  not
• 36:32
  familiar
• 36:33
  with
• 36:33
  that.
• 36:33
  Okay.
• 36:33
  That
• 36:33
  was
• 36:34
  one
• 36:34
  of
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  books
• 36:34
  I
• 36:34
  read
• 36:34
  to
• 36:35
  him
• 36:35
  when
• 36:35
  he
• 36:35
  was
• 36:35
  a
• 36:35
  kid.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  in
• 36:36
  this
• 36:36
  book,
• 36:36
  the
• 36:37
  character.
• 36:38
  That's
• 36:39
  true.
• 36:39
  You
• 36:39
  are
• 36:39
  still
• 36:39
  a
• 36:40
  kid.
• 36:40
  Yeah,
• 36:41
  I
• 36:41
  meant
• 36:41
  a
• 36:41
  younger
• 36:41
  kid.
• 36:42
  We
• 36:42
  were.
• 36:42
  When
• 36:42
  he
• 36:42
  was
• 36:43
  little,
• 36:43
  I
• 36:43
  was
• 36:43
  reading
• 36:44
  Ralph
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  Farting
• 36:45
  Dog
• 36:45
  to
• 36:46
  my.
• 36:47
  This
• 36:48
  is
• 36:48
  a
• 36:48
  board
• 36:48
  book
• 36:48
  though.
• 36:49
  So
• 36:49
  it
• 36:49
  was.
• 36:49
  It
• 36:50
  had.
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  would
• 36:50
  say
• 36:51
  it
• 36:51
  would.
• 36:51
  Had
• 36:51
  as
• 36:51
  many
• 36:51
  words
• 36:52
  as
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  typical
• 36:52
  picture
• 36:53
  book,
• 36:53
  but
• 36:53
  it
• 36:53
  was
• 36:54
  designed
• 36:54
  as
• 36:54
  a
• 36:54
  board
• 36:54
  book.
• 36:55
  So
• 36:55
  when
• 36:55
  he
• 36:56
  was
• 36:56
  really
• 36:56
  little.
• 36:56
  But
• 36:56
  anyway,
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  main
• 36:57
  character
• 36:58
  in
• 36:58
  this
• 36:58
  story,
• 36:59
  she
• 37:00
  says
• 37:00
  something
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  beginning
• 37:00
  of
• 37:01
  the
• 37:01
  story,
• 37:01
  I
• 37:01
  love
• 37:01
  you,
• 37:02
  my
• 37:02
  son,
• 37:03
  or
• 37:03
  something
• 37:03
  like
• 37:04
  that.
• 37:04
  And
• 37:04
  he
• 37:04
  says,
• 37:04
  what
• 37:04
  if
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  was
• 37:05
  a
• 37:05
  giant
• 37:05
  gorilla?
• 37:06
  And
• 37:06
  he.
• 37:06
  And
• 37:06
  she
• 37:07
  said,
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  would
• 37:07
  feed
• 37:07
  you
• 37:08
  bananas
• 37:08
  and
• 37:08
  I
• 37:09
  would
• 37:09
  still
• 37:09
  love
• 37:09
  you.
• 37:09
  That
• 37:10
  kind
• 37:10
  of
• 37:10
  thing.
• 37:10
  And
• 37:10
  at
• 37:10
  one
• 37:11
  point,
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  title
• 37:12
  comes
• 37:12
  from
• 37:12
  at
• 37:12
  one
• 37:12
  point
• 37:13
  in
• 37:13
  the
• 37:13
  story
• 37:13
  where,
• 37:14
  you
• 37:14
  know,
• 37:14
  what
• 37:14
  if
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  was
• 37:14
  a
• 37:15
  stinky?
• 37:16
  I
• 37:16
  only
• 37:16
  vaguely
• 37:16
  remember
• 37:17
  it,
• 37:17
  but
• 37:17
  what
• 37:17
  if
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  was
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  stinky.
• 37:18
  Whatever.
• 37:18
  And
• 37:19
  she
• 37:19
  said,
• 37:19
  I
• 37:19
  would
• 37:19
  give
• 37:20
  you
• 37:20
  a
• 37:20
  bath.
• 37:23
  But
• 37:23
  it's
• 37:23
  always
• 37:23
  this
• 37:23
  kind
• 37:23
  of
• 37:24
  what
• 37:24
  if
• 37:24
  kind
• 37:24
  of
• 37:24
  thing.
• 37:25
  And
• 37:25
  so
• 37:25
  my
• 37:26
  original
• 37:26
  draft
• 37:27
  was
• 37:27
  like
• 37:27
  that
• 37:27
  because
• 37:28
  Parker
• 37:29
  would
• 37:29
  actually
• 37:29
  say
• 37:29
  things
• 37:29
  to
• 37:30
  me
• 37:30
  like,
• 37:30
  what
• 37:30
  if
• 37:31
  this
• 37:31
  happened?
• 37:31
  And
• 37:32
  that
• 37:32
  happened?
• 37:33
  And.
• 37:33
  But
• 37:33
  the
• 37:34
  draft
• 37:34
  wasn't
• 37:34
  working.
• 37:35
  Plus
• 37:35
  it
• 37:35
  sounded
• 37:35
  a
• 37:36
  little
• 37:36
  bit
• 37:36
  too
• 37:36
  much
• 37:37
  like
• 37:37
  these
• 37:37
  other
• 37:37
  authors
• 37:38
  stories.
• 37:38
  And
• 37:39
  Orion
• 37:39
  just
• 37:39
  popped
• 37:39
  in
• 37:40
  my
• 37:40
  head
• 37:40
  one
• 37:40
  day.
• 37:40
  And
• 37:40
  he
• 37:40
  popped
• 37:41
  in
• 37:41
  my
• 37:41
  head
• 37:41
  one
• 37:41
  day
• 37:41
  with
• 37:41
  a
• 37:41
  name
• 37:42
  and
• 37:42
  a
• 37:42
  voice.
• 37:43
  And
• 37:43
  then
• 37:44
  it
• 37:44
  just
• 37:44
  Wrote
• 37:44
  itself.
• 37:46
  Create
• 37:46
  his
• 37:46
  design.
• 37:47
  Did
• 37:47
  you
• 37:47
  do
• 37:47
  that?
• 37:48
  No,
• 37:48
  that
• 37:49
  was
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  illustrator.
• 37:49
  You
• 37:49
  mean
• 37:50
  what
• 37:50
  he
• 37:50
  looked
• 37:50
  like?
• 37:50
  Yeah,
• 37:51
  that
• 37:51
  was
• 37:51
  the
• 37:51
  illustrator.
• 37:52
  I
• 37:53
  didn't
• 37:53
  have
• 37:53
  any
• 37:53
  idea
• 37:54
  for
• 37:54
  what
• 37:54
  Ryan
• 37:54
  would
• 37:54
  look
• 37:55
  like.
• 37:56
  Yes,
• 37:57
  he
• 37:57
  was.
• 37:57
  Yes.
• 37:59
  But
• 37:59
  using
• 37:59
  Indiana
• 38:00
  Jones
• 38:00
  is
• 38:00
  the
• 38:00
  copyright
• 38:01
  violations.
• 38:01
  Yes.
• 38:03
  In
• 38:03
  terms
• 38:03
  of
• 38:04
  when
• 38:05
  you
• 38:05
  started
• 38:05
  out
• 38:06
  on
• 38:06
  your
• 38:07
  children's
• 38:07
  book
• 38:08
  authorship
• 38:08
  journey
• 38:09
  and
• 38:10
  we
• 38:10
  talked
• 38:10
  about
• 38:11
  your
• 38:12
  business
• 38:12
  plan.
• 38:12
  But
• 38:13
  what
• 38:13
  I'd
• 38:13
  like
• 38:13
  to
• 38:13
  talk
• 38:13
  to
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  about
• 38:14
  is
• 38:14
  what
• 38:15
  you
• 38:15
  had
• 38:15
  in
• 38:16
  mind
• 38:16
  for
• 38:16
  success.
• 38:17
  So
• 38:17
  what's
• 38:18
  your
• 38:19
  vision
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  success
• 38:20
  for
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  book?
• 38:20
  That
• 38:21
  is
• 38:21
  a
• 38:21
  great
• 38:21
  question
• 38:22
  because
• 38:22
  I
• 38:23
  think
• 38:23
  probably
• 38:23
  all
• 38:24
  debut
• 38:24
  authors.
• 38:24
  I
• 38:25
  had
• 38:25
  a
• 38:25
  much
• 38:25
  bigger
• 38:26
  vision
• 38:26
  than
• 38:26
  maybe
• 38:27
  reality.
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  thought
• 38:28
  I
• 38:29
  wanted
• 38:29
  to
• 38:29
  sell
• 38:29
  5,000
• 38:30
  copies
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  I
• 38:31
  arrived
• 38:32
  at
• 38:32
  that
• 38:32
  number
• 38:33
  by
• 38:33
  figuring
• 38:34
  out
• 38:34
  like
• 38:34
  what
• 38:34
  the
• 38:35
  book
• 38:35
  cost.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:36
  so
• 38:36
  I'd
• 38:36
  have
• 38:36
  to
• 38:36
  cover
• 38:36
  the
• 38:37
  cost
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  book
• 38:38
  since
• 38:38
  I.
• 38:38
  Since
• 38:38
  I
• 38:39
  paid
• 38:39
  for
• 38:39
  it
• 38:39
  like
• 38:40
  you
• 38:40
  would
• 38:40
  with
• 38:40
  self
• 38:40
  publishing.
• 38:42
  And
• 38:42
  then.
• 38:42
  And
• 38:43
  I
• 38:43
  wanted
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  make
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  money
• 38:43
  back
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  then
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  wanted
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  make
• 38:45
  a
• 38:45
  profit
• 38:45
  on
• 38:45
  top
• 38:45
  of
• 38:46
  it
• 38:46
  so
• 38:46
  we
• 38:46
  could
• 38:46
  do
• 38:46
  it
• 38:46
  again.
• 38:47
  That's
• 38:47
  where
• 38:47
  I
• 38:47
  came
• 38:48
  up
• 38:48
  with
• 38:48
  the
• 38:48
  5,000
• 38:49
  copies
• 38:49
  number.
• 38:50
  But
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  think
• 38:50
  at
• 38:50
  this
• 38:50
  point
• 38:51
  I'll
• 38:51
  be
• 38:51
  happy
• 38:51
  if
• 38:51
  I
• 38:52
  get
• 38:52
  a
• 38:52
  thousand
• 38:52
  copies.
• 38:54
  Most
• 38:54
  books
• 38:55
  don't
• 38:55
  sell
• 38:55
  more
• 38:55
  than
• 38:55
  500,
• 38:56
  so.
• 38:56
  That's
• 38:57
  right.
• 38:57
  They
• 38:57
  say
• 38:57
  the
• 38:57
  lifetime
• 38:58
  of
• 38:58
  a
• 38:58
  book
• 38:58
  is
• 38:59
  between
• 38:59
  105
• 39:00
  copies.
• 39:01
  And
• 39:01
  that's
• 39:01
  why
• 39:01
  I
• 39:02
  always
• 39:02
  ask
• 39:02
  about,
• 39:03
  do
• 39:03
  you
• 39:03
  have
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  business
• 39:04
  plan?
• 39:04
  Because
• 39:05
  a
• 39:05
  lot
• 39:05
  of
• 39:05
  times
• 39:05
  I'm
• 39:05
  finding
• 39:06
  that
• 39:07
  everybody
• 39:08
  has
• 39:08
  this
• 39:09
  passion
• 39:09
  to
• 39:09
  bring
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  children's
• 39:10
  book
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  market.
• 39:12
  It's
• 39:12
  to
• 39:13
  your
• 39:13
  point,
• 39:14
  Sarah,
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  nice
• 39:15
  thing
• 39:16
  about
• 39:16
  these
• 39:16
  hybrid
• 39:17
  publishers,
• 39:18
  and
• 39:19
  they
• 39:19
  do
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  great
• 39:19
  job.
• 39:20
  I've
• 39:20
  interviewed
• 39:21
  a
• 39:21
  ton
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  children's
• 39:22
  book
• 39:22
  authors
• 39:23
  and
• 39:23
  a
• 39:23
  lot
• 39:24
  of
• 39:24
  them
• 39:24
  have
• 39:24
  used
• 39:24
  these
• 39:24
  hybrid
• 39:25
  book
• 39:25
  publishing
• 39:27
  people.
• 39:28
  The
• 39:28
  only
• 39:28
  thing
• 39:29
  is
• 39:29
  that
• 39:29
  they
• 39:30
  get
• 39:30
  you
• 39:30
  to
• 39:31
  a
• 39:32
  beautiful
• 39:32
  book.
• 39:33
  Publish,
• 39:33
  distributed.
• 39:35
  But
• 39:35
  after
• 39:35
  that,
• 39:36
  generally
• 39:36
  the
• 39:37
  marketing
• 39:37
  and
• 39:37
  sales
• 39:38
  part
• 39:38
  of
• 39:38
  it
• 39:39
  is
• 39:40
  entirely
• 39:40
  up
• 39:40
  to
• 39:41
  you.
• 39:42
  Yeah.
• 39:42
  And
• 39:42
  I'm
• 39:42
  also
• 39:43
  wondering.
• 39:43
  I
• 39:43
  love
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  hybrid
• 39:44
  publisher
• 39:45
  that
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  work
• 39:45
  with.
• 39:45
  And
• 39:45
  like
• 39:46
  I.
• 39:46
  I
• 39:46
  said,
• 39:46
  I
• 39:47
  chose
• 39:47
  her
• 39:47
  company.
• 39:48
  She
• 39:49
  has.
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  keep
• 39:49
  calling
• 39:50
  her
• 39:50
  a
• 39:50
  she,
• 39:50
  but
• 39:50
  she's
• 39:51
  not
• 39:51
  one
• 39:51
  person.
• 39:51
  She
• 39:52
  has
• 39:52
  an
• 39:52
  entire
• 39:52
  team
• 39:53
  of
• 39:53
  people
• 39:53
  that
• 39:53
  work
• 39:53
  with
• 39:53
  her,
• 39:54
  some
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  them
• 39:54
  that
• 39:54
  are
• 39:55
  coming
• 39:55
  from
• 39:55
  the
• 39:55
  big
• 39:55
  five
• 39:55
  publishers.
• 39:56
  So
• 39:56
  they
• 39:56
  know
• 39:56
  what
• 39:57
  they're
• 39:57
  doing.
• 39:57
  And
• 39:58
  I.
• 39:58
  That's
• 39:58
  what
• 39:59
  I
• 39:59
  really
• 39:59
  wanted.
• 40:00
  I
• 40:00
  didn't
• 40:00
  want
• 40:00
  to
• 40:00
  try
• 40:01
  to
• 40:01
  figure
• 40:01
  out,
• 40:01
  like
• 40:01
  I
• 40:01
  said
• 40:02
  earlier,
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  whole
• 40:03
  self
• 40:04
  publishing,
• 40:05
  everything
• 40:05
  that
• 40:05
  goes
• 40:05
  into
• 40:06
  that,
• 40:06
  especially
• 40:06
  with
• 40:06
  a
• 40:07
  kid's
• 40:07
  book.
• 40:07
  Book.
• 40:08
  But
• 40:08
  it
• 40:08
  was
• 40:09
  not
• 40:09
  cheap.
• 40:09
  Sure.
• 40:10
  No.
• 40:11
  So
• 40:11
  my
• 40:12
  main
• 40:12
  goal,
• 40:12
  that
• 40:13
  was
• 40:13
  really
• 40:13
  just
• 40:13
  to
• 40:14
  make
• 40:14
  my
• 40:14
  money
• 40:15
  back.
• 40:15
  I
• 40:15
  don't
• 40:16
  know
• 40:16
  at
• 40:16
  this
• 40:16
  point
• 40:16
  if
• 40:17
  we'll
• 40:17
  do
• 40:17
  that.
• 40:18
  We'll
• 40:18
  see.
• 40:18
  We're
• 40:19
  just
• 40:19
  at
• 40:19
  the
• 40:19
  beginning.
• 40:20
  But
• 40:20
  I
• 40:20
  don't
• 40:20
  even
• 40:20
  have
• 40:20
  sales
• 40:21
  numbers
• 40:21
  at
• 40:21
  this
• 40:21
  point.
• 40:22
  They
• 40:22
  told
• 40:22
  me
• 40:23
  I
• 40:23
  will
• 40:23
  have
• 40:24
  my
• 40:24
  first
• 40:24
  set
• 40:25
  of
• 40:25
  sales
• 40:25
  numbers
• 40:25
  in
• 40:26
  August.
• 40:27
  So
• 40:27
  I
• 40:27
  don't.
• 40:27
  I
• 40:27
  can't
• 40:28
  even
• 40:28
  tell
• 40:28
  how
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  book's
• 40:29
  doing
• 40:29
  at
• 40:29
  this
• 40:29
  point.
• 40:29
  All
• 40:30
  I
• 40:30
  know
• 40:30
  is
• 40:30
  the
• 40:30
  people,
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  feedback
• 40:31
  I'm
• 40:31
  getting
• 40:32
  from
• 40:32
  in
• 40:32
  person
• 40:32
  events.
• 40:33
  Feedback.
• 40:33
  But
• 40:34
  that
• 40:34
  feedback
• 40:34
  has
• 40:34
  been
• 40:35
  wonderful.
• 40:35
  So
• 40:35
  I.
• 40:36
  I
• 40:36
  redefined
• 40:37
  my
• 40:37
  definition
• 40:38
  of
• 40:38
  success.
• 40:39
  Be
• 40:40
  like,
• 40:40
  you
• 40:40
  kids
• 40:40
  are
• 40:41
  loving
• 40:41
  this
• 40:41
  book.
• 40:41
  They.
• 40:42
  They
• 40:42
  think
• 40:42
  it's
• 40:43
  funny.
• 40:43
  I
• 40:44
  think
• 40:44
  it
• 40:44
  has
• 40:44
  a
• 40:44
  positive
• 40:45
  message
• 40:45
  of
• 40:45
  using
• 40:46
  your
• 40:46
  imagination
• 40:46
  to
• 40:46
  overcome
• 40:47
  your
• 40:47
  fears.
• 40:49
  Yeah,
• 40:50
  that's
• 40:50
  the.
• 40:50
  Parker
• 40:51
  says
• 40:51
  you
• 40:51
  just
• 40:51
  need
• 40:51
  to
• 40:51
  make
• 40:51
  people
• 40:52
  know
• 40:52
  about
• 40:52
  it.
• 40:52
  That's
• 40:53
  that.
• 40:53
  Sorry,
• 40:53
  I
• 40:53
  keep
• 40:53
  repeating
• 40:54
  what
• 40:54
  he's
• 40:54
  saying,
• 40:54
  but
• 40:54
  that's
• 40:55
  because
• 40:55
  I'm
• 40:55
  not
• 40:55
  sure
• 40:56
  if
• 40:56
  his
• 40:56
  microphone
• 40:56
  is
• 40:57
  working
• 40:57
  the
• 40:58
  whole
• 40:58
  time
• 40:58
  or
• 40:58
  if
• 40:58
  he's
• 40:59
  putting
• 40:59
  his
• 40:59
  hand
• 40:59
  over
• 40:59
  his
• 41:00
  mouth.
• 41:00
  Are
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  a
• 41:01
  Trekkie
• 41:01
  by
• 41:01
  chance?
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  love
• 41:02
  Star
• 41:02
  Trek.
• 41:03
  Have
• 41:03
  you
• 41:03
  ever
• 41:04
  seen
• 41:04
  the
• 41:04
  spoof
• 41:05
  movie
• 41:05
  Galaxy
• 41:06
  Quest?
• 41:07
  I
• 41:07
  love
• 41:07
  Galaxy
• 41:08
  Quest.
• 41:08
  Do
• 41:08
  you
• 41:08
  know
• 41:08
  in
• 41:09
  that
• 41:09
  movie
• 41:09
  where
• 41:09
  Sigourney
• 41:10
  Weaver's
• 41:10
  character
• 41:11
  is
• 41:11
  always
• 41:11
  repeating
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  computer?
• 41:14
  And
• 41:14
  that's
• 41:15
  like
• 41:15
  her
• 41:15
  official
• 41:15
  job
• 41:16
  is
• 41:16
  to
• 41:16
  repeat
• 41:16
  whatever
• 41:17
  the
• 41:17
  computer
• 41:17
  says?
• 41:17
  I
• 41:17
  feel
• 41:17
  like
• 41:18
  that's
• 41:18
  what
• 41:18
  I'm
• 41:18
  doing
• 41:18
  right
• 41:18
  now.
• 41:20
  I'm
• 41:20
  repeating
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  computer.
• 41:22
  I
• 41:22
  want
• 41:22
  to
• 41:22
  talk
• 41:22
  to
• 41:22
  you
• 41:23
  about
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  role
• 41:23
  of
• 41:23
  writing.
• 41:24
  Dig
• 41:24
  a
• 41:25
  little
• 41:25
  deeper
• 41:25
  into
• 41:26
  because,
• 41:27
  like,
• 41:27
  it's
• 41:27
  interesting
• 41:28
  how
• 41:28
  you're
• 41:28
  both.
• 41:28
  Now
• 41:29
  that
• 41:29
  Parker's
• 41:30
  got
• 41:30
  a
• 41:30
  book
• 41:31
  that
• 41:31
  he
• 41:31
  writes
• 41:31
  in
• 41:32
  and
• 41:32
  his
• 41:32
  ideas
• 41:33
  down
• 41:33
  in.
• 41:34
  How
• 41:34
  are
• 41:35
  you
• 41:35
  now?
• 41:36
  Are
• 41:36
  you.
• 41:37
  Is
• 41:37
  there
• 41:37
  any
• 41:37
  formal
• 41:38
  plan
• 41:38
  with
• 41:38
  that?
• 41:39
  Do
• 41:39
  you
• 41:39
  guys
• 41:39
  set
• 41:40
  aside
• 41:40
  any
• 41:41
  time
• 41:41
  during
• 41:42
  the
• 41:42
  week
• 41:43
  and
• 41:43
  write
• 41:43
  and
• 41:44
  take
• 41:44
  Parker's
• 41:45
  ideas
• 41:46
  and
• 41:46
  start
• 41:47
  creating
• 41:47
  dialogue
• 41:48
  or
• 41:48
  a
• 41:48
  story?
• 41:50
  We
• 41:50
  have
• 41:51
  not
• 41:51
  done
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  yet.
• 41:52
  We
• 41:52
  definitely
• 41:52
  need
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  do
• 41:53
  that.
• 41:53
  We
• 41:54
  need
• 41:54
  to
• 41:54
  have
• 41:54
  a
• 41:54
  regular
• 41:54
  routine
• 41:55
  of
• 41:55
  it.
• 41:55
  It
• 41:56
  has
• 41:56
  been
• 41:56
  a
• 41:56
  thought
• 41:56
  in
• 41:57
  my
• 41:57
  brain.
• 41:58
  You
• 41:58
  did
• 41:58
  that
• 42:00
  Dead
• 42:00
  Rails.
• 42:01
  And
• 42:01
  I
• 42:01
  was
• 42:01
  going
• 42:01
  to
• 42:01
  make
• 42:02
  my
• 42:02
  own
• 42:02
  story
• 42:03
  of
• 42:03
  Dead
• 42:04
  Rails.
• 42:05
  My
• 42:05
  own
• 42:05
  Dead
• 42:06
  Rails
• 42:06
  story.
• 42:07
  Dead
• 42:07
  Rails
• 42:08
  is
• 42:08
  a
• 42:08
  Roblox
• 42:08
  game.
• 42:08
  He's
• 42:09
  very
• 42:09
  into
• 42:09
  playing
• 42:09
  Roblox.
• 42:10
  Okay.
• 42:12
  Yeah.
• 42:12
  But
• 42:12
  I
• 42:13
  do
• 42:13
  think
• 42:13
  that
• 42:13
  we
• 42:13
  need
• 42:13
  to,
• 42:14
  because
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  feel
• 42:16
  like
• 42:16
  we
• 42:16
  could
• 42:17
  easily
• 42:17
  fall
• 42:17
  into
• 42:17
  the
• 42:18
  trap
• 42:18
  that
• 42:18
  has
• 42:19
  pretty
• 42:19
  much
• 42:19
  been,
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  would
• 42:20
  call
• 42:20
  my
• 42:21
  trap
• 42:21
  my
• 42:22
  entire
• 42:22
  writing
• 42:22
  life,
• 42:22
  which
• 42:23
  is,
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  have
• 42:24
  these
• 42:24
  ideas.
• 42:25
  But
• 42:25
  then
• 42:25
  if
• 42:25
  you
• 42:25
  don't
• 42:26
  actually
• 42:26
  schedule
• 42:26
  time
• 42:27
  to
• 42:27
  sit
• 42:27
  down
• 42:28
  and
• 42:28
  make
• 42:28
  the
• 42:29
  ideas
• 42:29
  into
• 42:29
  something,
• 42:30
  they
• 42:30
  never
• 42:30
  really
• 42:31
  come
• 42:31
  into
• 42:31
  fruition.
• 42:32
  So
• 42:32
  I
• 42:32
  think
• 42:33
  we
• 42:33
  need
• 42:33
  to
• 42:33
  do
• 42:33
  that.
• 42:34
  It's
• 42:34
  always
• 42:35
  a
• 42:35
  little
• 42:35
  bit
• 42:35
  tricky
• 42:36
  because
• 42:36
  life
• 42:37
  getting
• 42:37
  so
• 42:37
  busy
• 42:38
  between
• 42:39
  him,
• 42:39
  him
• 42:39
  being
• 42:40
  a
• 42:40
  kid
• 42:40
  and
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  things
• 42:40
  he
• 42:40
  has
• 42:41
  to
• 42:41
  do
• 42:41
  for
• 42:41
  school
• 42:41
  and
• 42:41
  then
• 42:42
  me
• 42:42
  being
• 42:42
  a
• 42:42
  teacher
• 42:43
  and
• 42:43
  things
• 42:44
  change
• 42:44
  from
• 42:45
  one
• 42:45
  moment
• 42:45
  to
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  next.
• 42:46
  I
• 42:46
  think
• 42:46
  we
• 42:46
  need
• 42:46
  to
• 42:47
  do
• 42:47
  that.
• 42:47
  It
• 42:47
  did
• 42:47
  receive
• 42:48
  cause
• 42:48
  I'd
• 42:48
  like
• 42:48
  to
• 42:49
  segue
• 42:49
  into.
• 42:50
  You
• 42:50
  were
• 42:51
  an
• 42:51
  aspiring
• 42:52
  author
• 42:52
  over
• 42:52
  the
• 42:53
  last.
• 42:53
  Wow.
• 42:54
  Like
• 42:54
  you
• 42:54
  said,
• 42:54
  maybe
• 42:55
  lifetime.
• 42:56
  Yeah,
• 42:56
  lifetime.
• 42:58
  Four
• 42:58
  decades.
• 42:59
  I'm
• 42:59
  almost
• 42:59
  five
• 42:59
  decades
• 43:00
  old,
• 43:00
  so
• 43:00
  probably
• 43:01
  about
• 43:01
  four
• 43:01
  and
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  half
• 43:02
  decades.
• 43:02
  Four
• 43:02
  and
• 43:02
  a
• 43:02
  half
• 43:03
  decades.
• 43:04
  So
• 43:04
  what
• 43:04
  advice
• 43:05
  do
• 43:05
  you
• 43:05
  have
• 43:06
  for
• 43:06
  aspiring
• 43:06
  children's
• 43:07
  book
• 43:07
  authors?
• 43:09
  I
• 43:09
  think
• 43:09
  my
• 43:10
  biggest
• 43:11
  barrier,
• 43:11
  I
• 43:12
  did
• 43:12
  mention
• 43:12
  the
• 43:12
  time
• 43:13
  thing
• 43:13
  because
• 43:13
  just
• 43:14
  like
• 43:14
  the
• 43:14
  apple
• 43:15
  does
• 43:15
  not
• 43:15
  far
• 43:15
  fall
• 43:15
  far
• 43:16
  from
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  tree.
• 43:16
  So
• 43:16
  just
• 43:17
  like
• 43:17
  my
• 43:17
  son,
• 43:17
  I
• 43:18
  always
• 43:18
  have
• 43:18
  a
• 43:18
  gazillion
• 43:19
  ideas
• 43:19
  at
• 43:19
  once.
• 43:20
  And
• 43:20
  then
• 43:20
  trying
• 43:20
  to
• 43:20
  figure
• 43:21
  out
• 43:21
  which
• 43:21
  one
• 43:21
  am
• 43:21
  I
• 43:21
  actually
• 43:21
  going
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  pursue
• 43:22
  at
• 43:22
  this
• 43:22
  moment
• 43:23
  has
• 43:24
  been
• 43:24
  a
• 43:24
  problem.
• 43:24
  But
• 43:25
  my
• 43:25
  biggest
• 43:25
  barrier
• 43:26
  has
• 43:26
  just
• 43:26
  been
• 43:26
  fear.
• 43:27
  When
• 43:27
  I
• 43:27
  was
• 43:27
  younger,
• 43:28
  I
• 43:28
  used
• 43:28
  to
• 43:28
  be
• 43:28
  painfully
• 43:29
  shy.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:30
  so
• 43:30
  it
• 43:30
  didn't
• 43:30
  feel
• 43:31
  safe
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  be
• 43:31
  visible.
• 43:32
  In
• 43:32
  fact,
• 43:33
  even
• 43:33
  now,
• 43:34
  part
• 43:34
  of
• 43:34
  being
• 43:34
  an
• 43:35
  author,
• 43:35
  I
• 43:35
  love
• 43:35
  the
• 43:35
  idea
• 43:36
  of
• 43:36
  sitting
• 43:36
  down
• 43:36
  and
• 43:37
  writing
• 43:37
  the
• 43:37
  stories
• 43:37
  and
• 43:38
  creating
• 43:38
  the
• 43:38
  stories.
• 43:38
  But
• 43:39
  you
• 43:39
  can't.
• 43:39
  Like
• 43:40
  we
• 43:40
  said
• 43:40
  before,
• 43:40
  you
• 43:40
  can't
• 43:41
  just
• 43:41
  do
• 43:41
  stop
• 43:41
  there.
• 43:42
  You
• 43:42
  have
• 43:42
  to
• 43:42
  go
• 43:42
  market
• 43:43
  them.
• 43:44
  But
• 43:44
  putting
• 43:44
  myself
• 43:45
  out
• 43:45
  there
• 43:45
  is
• 43:45
  not
• 43:46
  natural.
• 43:47
  It's
• 43:47
  just
• 43:47
  that
• 43:48
  fear
• 43:48
  of
• 43:48
  being
• 43:48
  visible
• 43:48
  and
• 43:49
  fear
• 43:49
  of
• 43:49
  being
• 43:49
  seen.
• 43:51
  So
• 43:51
  how
• 43:51
  would
• 43:51
  you
• 43:52
  talk
• 43:52
  to
• 43:52
  aspiring
• 43:53
  authors
• 43:53
  about
• 43:54
  getting
• 43:54
  over
• 43:54
  that?
• 43:55
  Yeah,
• 43:55
  so
• 43:56
  I
• 43:56
  actually
• 43:56
  talk
• 43:57
  to
• 43:57
  my
• 43:57
  college
• 43:57
  students
• 43:58
  about
• 43:58
  this
• 43:58
  all
• 43:58
  the
• 43:59
  time.
• 43:59
  And
• 43:59
  it's
• 43:59
  that
• 44:00
  piece
• 44:01
  where
• 44:03
  you
• 44:03
  have
• 44:03
  to
• 44:03
  understand
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  writing
• 44:05
  isn't
• 44:05
  actually
• 44:05
  a
• 44:06
  solo
• 44:06
  activity.
• 44:07
  For
• 44:07
  example,
• 44:08
  when
• 44:08
  I
• 44:08
  went
• 44:08
  to
• 44:09
  college,
• 44:09
  I
• 44:10
  even
• 44:10
  though
• 44:10
  I
• 44:10
  knew
• 44:11
  I
• 44:11
  wanted
• 44:11
  to
• 44:11
  be
• 44:11
  a
• 44:11
  writer
• 44:11
  and
• 44:12
  in
• 44:12
  particular
• 44:12
  write
• 44:13
  fiction,
• 44:13
  I
• 44:14
  write
• 44:14
  nonfiction
• 44:14
  also,
• 44:14
  but
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  really
• 44:15
  wanted
• 44:15
  to
• 44:15
  write
• 44:15
  fiction.
• 44:16
  I
• 44:16
  didn't
• 44:17
  major
• 44:17
  in
• 44:17
  creative
• 44:17
  writing.
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  majored
• 44:19
  in
• 44:19
  criminal
• 44:19
  justice
• 44:19
  because
• 44:20
  at
• 44:20
  the
• 44:20
  time
• 44:20
  I
• 44:20
  thought
• 44:21
  I
• 44:21
  wanted
• 44:21
  to
• 44:21
  write
• 44:21
  mysteries.
• 44:22
  And
• 44:22
  so
• 44:22
  I
• 44:22
  thought,
• 44:22
  okay,
• 44:23
  that
• 44:23
  will
• 44:23
  teach
• 44:23
  me
• 44:23
  what
• 44:24
  I
• 44:24
  could
• 44:24
  write
• 44:24
  about.
• 44:25
  But
• 44:25
  the
• 44:26
  thought
• 44:26
  that
• 44:26
  was
• 44:26
  in
• 44:26
  my
• 44:27
  head
• 44:27
  was
• 44:29
  I
• 44:29
  can
• 44:29
  just
• 44:29
  do
• 44:30
  it
• 44:30
  myself.
• 44:30
  Nobody
• 44:31
  has
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  look
• 44:31
  at
• 44:31
  these.
• 44:31
  I'll
• 44:32
  read
• 44:32
  books
• 44:32
  on
• 44:32
  writing.
• 44:33
  I
• 44:33
  can
• 44:33
  just
• 44:33
  do
• 44:33
  it
• 44:33
  myself.
• 44:34
  But
• 44:34
  it
• 44:34
  was
• 44:34
  really
• 44:34
  fear
• 44:35
  talking.
• 44:35
  Cause
• 44:35
  I
• 44:36
  was
• 44:36
  afraid
• 44:36
  of
• 44:36
  anybody
• 44:37
  looking
• 44:37
  at
• 44:37
  my
• 44:37
  work
• 44:38
  and
• 44:38
  then
• 44:38
  judging
• 44:38
  it
• 44:38
  or
• 44:39
  criticizing
• 44:39
  it.
• 44:40
  So
• 44:41
  what
• 44:41
  I
• 44:41
  try
• 44:41
  to
• 44:41
  tell
• 44:42
  people
• 44:42
  all
• 44:42
  the
• 44:42
  time
• 44:42
  is
• 44:43
  how
• 44:43
  crucial
• 44:43
  feedback
• 44:44
  really
• 44:44
  is
• 44:45
  to
• 44:45
  the
• 44:45
  writing
• 44:46
  process.
• 44:46
  And
• 44:47
  I
• 44:47
  know
• 44:47
  it's
• 44:47
  scary
• 44:48
  and
• 44:48
  I'm
• 44:48
  not
• 44:48
  sure
• 44:48
  it
• 44:49
  ever
• 44:49
  doesn't
• 44:49
  become
• 44:50
  scary.
• 44:50
  You
• 44:50
  can
• 44:51
  get
• 44:51
  used
• 44:51
  to
• 44:51
  it.
• 44:52
  But
• 44:52
  even
• 44:52
  though
• 44:52
  at
• 44:52
  this
• 44:53
  point
• 44:53
  in
• 44:53
  time,
• 44:53
  I've
• 44:53
  been
• 44:54
  a
• 44:54
  professional
• 44:54
  writer
• 44:55
  with
• 44:55
  the
• 44:55
  freelance
• 44:56
  with
• 44:56
  the
• 44:56
  articles
• 44:57
  for
• 44:57
  about
• 44:57
  five
• 44:58
  years
• 44:58
  now,
• 44:58
  so.
• 44:58
  And
• 44:59
  different
• 44:59
  editors
• 44:59
  every
• 44:59
  time,
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  am
• 45:00
  always
• 45:00
  scared
• 45:01
  when
• 45:01
  I
• 45:01
  send
• 45:02
  it
• 45:02
  in,
• 45:02
  even
• 45:03
  if
• 45:03
  it's
• 45:03
  an
• 45:03
  editor
• 45:03
  I've
• 45:03
  worked
• 45:04
  with
• 45:04
  before,
• 45:04
  but
• 45:05
  those
• 45:05
  editors
• 45:05
  work
• 45:05
  with
• 45:06
  it
• 45:06
  and
• 45:06
  they
• 45:06
  polish
• 45:06
  it.
• 45:06
  And
• 45:07
  if
• 45:07
  there's
• 45:07
  revisions,
• 45:08
  it
• 45:08
  makes
• 45:08
  it
• 45:08
  so
• 45:09
  much
• 45:09
  better
• 45:09
  than
• 45:09
  it
• 45:09
  was
• 45:10
  before,
• 45:10
  because
• 45:11
  none
• 45:11
  of
• 45:11
  us
• 45:12
  can
• 45:12
  actually
• 45:12
  write
• 45:12
  alone
• 45:13
  in
• 45:13
  the
• 45:13
  sense
• 45:13
  that
• 45:14
  we
• 45:14
  can't
• 45:14
  be
• 45:15
  100%
• 45:15
  objective
• 45:16
  about
• 45:16
  our
• 45:16
  own
• 45:16
  work
• 45:16
  because
• 45:17
  it's
• 45:17
  in
• 45:17
  our
• 45:17
  head.
• 45:18
  So
• 45:18
  for
• 45:18
  aspiring
• 45:19
  authors,
• 45:20
  are
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  suggesting
• 45:22
  they
• 45:22
  join
• 45:23
  a
• 45:23
  writers
• 45:23
  group
• 45:24
  or
• 45:24
  something?
• 45:25
  Yes,
• 45:25
  something.
• 45:25
  Something
• 45:26
  where
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  get
• 45:26
  used
• 45:27
  to
• 45:27
  feedback.
• 45:27
  You
• 45:28
  can
• 45:28
  hear
• 45:28
  that.
• 45:28
  Okay.
• 45:29
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  Work
• 45:30
  with
• 45:30
  editors
• 45:31
  and
• 45:31
  just
• 45:32
  understand
• 45:32
  that
• 45:33
  it
• 45:33
  is
• 45:33
  scary.
• 45:34
  And
• 45:34
  that's
• 45:35
  normal.
• 45:35
  That
• 45:36
  feeling
• 45:36
  is
• 45:36
  normal.
• 45:37
  So
• 45:37
  it
• 45:38
  does
• 45:38
  become
• 45:38
  crucial
• 45:39
  to
• 45:39
  understand.
• 45:39
  First
• 45:40
  of
• 45:40
  all,
• 45:40
  it's
• 45:40
  normal
• 45:41
  and
• 45:41
  it's
• 45:41
  part
• 45:42
  of
• 45:42
  the
• 45:42
  process,
• 45:43
  but
• 45:43
  it's
• 45:43
  necessary
• 45:45
  because
• 45:45
  you
• 45:45
  need
• 45:45
  feedback
• 45:46
  from
• 45:46
  others.
• 45:47
  And
• 45:47
  I'm
• 45:47
  glad
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  realized
• 45:48
  that
• 45:49
  at
• 45:49
  some
• 45:49
  point,
• 45:49
  because
• 45:50
  my
• 45:50
  writing,
• 45:51
  as
• 45:51
  I
• 45:52
  said
• 45:52
  before,
• 45:52
  I
• 45:52
  thought
• 45:52
  I
• 45:52
  could
• 45:53
  write
• 45:53
  on
• 45:53
  my
• 45:53
  own.
• 45:53
  Just.
• 45:54
  I'm
• 45:54
  going
• 45:54
  to
• 45:54
  write
• 45:54
  in
• 45:54
  secret.
• 45:55
  I'm
• 45:55
  just
• 45:55
  going
• 45:56
  to
• 45:56
  read
• 45:56
  all
• 45:56
  these
• 45:56
  writing
• 45:56
  books
• 45:56
  and
• 45:57
  write.
• 45:57
  And
• 45:58
  that
• 45:58
  does
• 45:58
  work
• 45:58
  to
• 45:59
  a
• 45:59
  certain
• 45:59
  degree,
• 45:59
  but
• 46:00
  not.
• 46:00
  It's
• 46:00
  like
• 46:00
  night
• 46:01
  and
• 46:01
  day
• 46:01
  once
• 46:01
  you
• 46:01
  get
• 46:02
  feedback
• 46:02
  and
• 46:02
  you.
• 46:02
  So
• 46:03
  have
• 46:03
  you
• 46:03
  joined
• 46:04
  any
• 46:04
  type
• 46:04
  of
• 46:04
  writers
• 46:05
  group?
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  used
• 46:07
  to
• 46:07
  belong
• 46:07
  to
• 46:07
  a
• 46:07
  writer's
• 46:08
  group
• 46:08
  for
• 46:08
  about
• 46:09
  10
• 46:09
  years,
• 46:11
  but
• 46:11
  we
• 46:11
  moved.
• 46:12
  Okay.
• 46:13
  And
• 46:13
  with.
• 46:13
  Again,
• 46:13
  with
• 46:14
  life
• 46:14
  happening
• 46:14
  and
• 46:14
  being
• 46:15
  a
• 46:15
  parent
• 46:15
  and
• 46:15
  having
• 46:15
  Parker,
• 46:16
  it's
• 46:16
  hard
• 46:16
  to
• 46:17
  figure
• 46:17
  out
• 46:17
  how
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  fit
• 46:18
  that
• 46:18
  in.
• 46:18
  But
• 46:18
  it
• 46:19
  has.
• 46:19
  It
• 46:19
  has
• 46:19
  been
• 46:19
  something
• 46:20
  I've
• 46:20
  been
• 46:20
  thinking
• 46:20
  about.
• 46:20
  And
• 46:21
  actually,
• 46:21
  it
• 46:22
  goes
• 46:22
  back
• 46:22
  to
• 46:22
  your
• 46:22
  marketing
• 46:23
  question,
• 46:24
  because
• 46:25
  one
• 46:25
  of
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  things
• 46:25
  I've
• 46:26
  been
• 46:26
  thinking
• 46:26
  about
• 46:26
  is
• 46:27
  that
• 46:27
  as
• 46:27
  we
• 46:27
  are
• 46:27
  getting
• 46:28
  out
• 46:28
  there
• 46:28
  and
• 46:28
  doing
• 46:29
  stuff,
• 46:31
  I'm
• 46:31
  meeting
• 46:32
  other
• 46:32
  children's
• 46:32
  book
• 46:33
  authors.
• 46:34
  And
• 46:34
  I've.
• 46:35
  One
• 46:35
  of
• 46:35
  the
• 46:35
  things
• 46:35
  that
• 46:35
  I've
• 46:36
  heard
• 46:36
  in
• 46:36
  terms
• 46:36
  of
• 46:36
  marketing
• 46:37
  the
• 46:37
  book
• 46:37
  is
• 46:37
  that
• 46:37
  collaborations
• 46:38
  are
• 46:39
  super
• 46:39
  helpful.
• 46:40
  And
• 46:40
  so
• 46:41
  I've
• 46:41
  been
• 46:41
  keeping.
• 46:41
  Taking
• 46:42
  people's
• 46:42
  contact
• 46:42
  information
• 46:43
  and
• 46:43
  whatnot,
• 46:44
  and
• 46:44
  I
• 46:44
  haven't
• 46:44
  done
• 46:44
  anything
• 46:45
  with
• 46:45
  this
• 46:45
  idea
• 46:46
  yet.
• 46:46
  But
• 46:46
  I
• 46:46
  do
• 46:46
  plan
• 46:46
  to
• 46:47
  create
• 46:47
  a
• 46:48
  group
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  those
• 46:48
  of
• 46:49
  us
• 46:49
  who
• 46:49
  are
• 46:49
  writing
• 46:49
  children's
• 46:50
  books
• 46:51
  and
• 46:51
  then
• 46:51
  for
• 46:51
  critique.
• 46:52
  Partners.
• 46:52
  Yes,
• 46:53
  but
• 46:53
  also
• 46:54
  marketing
• 46:54
  partners
• 46:54
  in
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  sense
• 46:55
  that
• 46:55
  we
• 46:55
  can
• 46:55
  help
• 46:55
  promote
• 46:56
  each
• 46:56
  other's
• 46:56
  books
• 46:56
  and
• 46:57
  do
• 46:57
  events
• 46:57
  together
• 46:57
  and
• 46:58
  that
• 46:58
  kind
• 46:58
  of
• 46:58
  thing.
• 46:58
  Great
• 46:58
  idea.
• 46:59
  Great
• 46:59
  idea,
• 47:00
  Parker.
• 47:00
  Parker
• 47:01
  wants
• 47:01
  to
• 47:01
  share
• 47:01
  a
• 47:02
  book
• 47:02
  idea.
• 47:04
  What's
• 47:04
  the
• 47:04
  book
• 47:05
  idea,
• 47:05
  Parker?
• 47:07
  Okay.
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  don't
• 47:08
  think
• 47:08
  they
• 47:08
  know
• 47:08
  who
• 47:08
  Ethan,
• 47:09
  you
• 47:09
  and
• 47:09
  Liam
• 47:09
  are,
• 47:09
  but
• 47:10
  these
• 47:10
  are
• 47:10
  friends
• 47:10
  of
• 47:10
  Parker's.
• 47:11
  Okay.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:12
  I
• 47:12
  don't
• 47:12
  know
• 47:12
  if
• 47:13
  you
• 47:13
  can
• 47:13
  tell
• 47:14
  the
• 47:14
  three
• 47:14
  Musketeers.
• 47:15
  Like
• 47:15
  adventure.
• 47:16
  Yeah,
• 47:16
  yeah.
• 47:16
  Because
• 47:16
  he
• 47:17
  said
• 47:17
  he
• 47:17
  wants
• 47:17
  them
• 47:17
  to
• 47:17
  go
• 47:17
  on
• 47:18
  adventures.
• 47:19
  Terrific.
• 47:20
  Our
• 47:20
  illustrator
• 47:21
  actually
• 47:21
  drew
• 47:21
  the
• 47:22
  main
• 47:22
  character
• 47:22
  in
• 47:23
  the
• 47:23
  book,
• 47:24
  it
• 47:24
  looks
• 47:24
  like
• 47:24
  Parker.
• 47:26
  And
• 47:26
  that
• 47:26
  was
• 47:27
  intentional.
• 47:27
  I
• 47:27
  did
• 47:28
  not
• 47:28
  ask
• 47:28
  for
• 47:28
  that.
• 47:28
  That
• 47:29
  was.
• 47:29
  The
• 47:29
  illustrator
• 47:29
  did
• 47:30
  it
• 47:30
  on
• 47:30
  their
• 47:30
  own.
• 47:31
  But
• 47:31
  he.
• 47:32
  When
• 47:32
  he
• 47:32
  gave
• 47:32
  us
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  example
• 47:33
  for
• 47:33
  the
• 47:33
  main
• 47:34
  character,
• 47:34
  he
• 47:35
  just
• 47:35
  took
• 47:35
  it
• 47:35
  from
• 47:35
  Parker's
• 47:36
  pictures,
• 47:36
  and
• 47:36
  we
• 47:36
  were
• 47:36
  like,
• 47:37
  we
• 47:37
  love
• 47:37
  it.
• 47:37
  Go
• 47:37
  with
• 47:37
  it.
• 47:38
  That's
• 47:38
  pretty
• 47:38
  cool.
• 47:39
  Our
• 47:39
  main
• 47:40
  character,
• 47:41
  her
• 47:41
  name
• 47:41
  is
• 47:41
  Caboose,
• 47:42
  the
• 47:42
  Rocky
• 47:43
  Mountain
• 47:43
  Bear.
• 47:44
  And
• 47:44
  Caboose
• 47:45
  starts
• 47:45
  with
• 47:45
  a
• 47:45
  K,
• 47:46
  and
• 47:46
  that's
• 47:47
  named
• 47:47
  after
• 47:48
  my
• 47:48
  oldest
• 47:48
  granddaughter,
• 47:49
  Kira.
• 47:50
  Okay.
• 47:51
  So
• 47:51
  that's
• 47:51
  how
• 47:51
  we
• 47:51
  came
• 47:52
  up
• 47:52
  with
• 47:52
  that.
• 47:52
  But
• 47:55
  there's
• 47:55
  no
• 47:55
  resemblance.
• 47:58
  So
• 47:58
  I
• 47:58
  want
• 47:59
  to
• 47:59
  have
• 47:59
  you
• 47:59
  talk
• 47:59
  a
• 48:00
  bit
• 48:00
  about
• 48:00
  encouragement
• 48:01
  for
• 48:02
  readers.
• 48:03
  So
• 48:03
  tell
• 48:03
  us
• 48:03
  why
• 48:04
  children's
• 48:05
  book
• 48:05
  readers
• 48:06
  should
• 48:06
  purchase
• 48:06
  your
• 48:06
  book.
• 48:08
  Sure.
• 48:09
  Because
• 48:09
  it's
• 48:09
  a
• 48:09
  good
• 48:09
  book.
• 48:09
  Fargo
• 48:10
  said
• 48:11
  that's
• 48:12
  important.
• 48:12
  Yeah,
• 48:13
  yeah.
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  think,
• 48:14
  like
• 48:14
  we've
• 48:15
  said
• 48:15
  before,
• 48:15
  I
• 48:15
  think
• 48:15
  that
• 48:16
  message
• 48:16
  is
• 48:16
  really
• 48:16
  important
• 48:17
  and
• 48:17
  really
• 48:17
  powerful.
• 48:18
  And
• 48:18
  probably
• 48:18
  if
• 48:18
  we
• 48:19
  do
• 48:19
  end
• 48:19
  up
• 48:19
  doing
• 48:19
  two
• 48:20
  other
• 48:20
  Pickles
• 48:20
  books,
• 48:20
  they'll
• 48:21
  all
• 48:21
  have
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  same
• 48:21
  kind
• 48:21
  of
• 48:21
  idea
• 48:22
  of
• 48:22
  using
• 48:22
  your
• 48:23
  imagination
• 48:23
  as
• 48:24
  your
• 48:24
  superpower.
• 48:26
  And
• 48:26
  it
• 48:26
  has
• 48:26
  laser
• 48:27
  eyes.
• 48:27
  Parker
• 48:27
  says
• 48:29
  that's
• 48:29
  important,
• 48:30
  but
• 48:30
  it's
• 48:30
  also.
• 48:31
  It's
• 48:31
  also
• 48:32
  silly
• 48:32
  and
• 48:32
  funny.
• 48:33
  And
• 48:33
  I
• 48:33
  think
• 48:34
  that
• 48:34
  humor
• 48:35
  is
• 48:35
  a.
• 48:36
  I
• 48:36
  don't
• 48:36
  know
• 48:36
  if
• 48:37
  the
• 48:37
  right
• 48:37
  word
• 48:37
  is
• 48:37
  a
• 48:37
  good
• 48:37
  way,
• 48:38
  but
• 48:38
  it's
• 48:38
  an
• 48:38
  effective
• 48:39
  way,
• 48:39
  a
• 48:39
  helpful
• 48:39
  way
• 48:40
  to
• 48:40
  combat
• 48:41
  something
• 48:41
  that's
• 48:42
  scary.
• 48:42
  Bedtime
• 48:43
  fears,
• 48:43
  fear
• 48:43
  of
• 48:44
  the
• 48:44
  dark
• 48:44
  kind
• 48:44
  of
• 48:44
  thing.
• 48:45
  And
• 48:45
  we
• 48:45
  didn't
• 48:46
  want
• 48:46
  to
• 48:46
  write
• 48:46
  a
• 48:46
  scary
• 48:46
  book,
• 48:47
  even
• 48:47
  though
• 48:47
  it's
• 48:47
  a
• 48:47
  book
• 48:48
  about
• 48:48
  monsters.
• 48:48
  Our
• 48:48
  monsters
• 48:49
  are
• 48:49
  silly.
• 48:49
  They're
• 48:50
  not
• 48:50
  scary.
• 48:51
  So
• 48:51
  it's
• 48:52
  like
• 48:52
  using
• 48:52
  humor
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  overcome
• 48:53
  your
• 48:53
  fears.
• 48:53
  And
• 48:54
  you're
• 48:54
  illustrating
• 48:55
  a
• 48:55
  good
• 48:55
  job
• 48:55
  in
• 48:56
  creating
• 48:56
  those
• 48:56
  illustrations.
• 48:57
  Yeah.
• 48:57
  Yeah.
• 48:57
  That's
• 48:58
  why
• 48:58
  we
• 48:58
  picked
• 48:58
  them.
• 48:59
  Yeah.
• 48:59
  We
• 48:59
  liked
• 48:59
  his
• 49:00
  examples.
• 49:01
  Absolutely.
• 49:01
  It
• 49:02
  actually
• 49:02
  reminds
• 49:03
  me
• 49:03
  of
• 49:03
  those
• 49:03
  old
• 49:05
  Frankenstein
• 49:05
  movies,
• 49:06
  the
• 49:06
  black
• 49:06
  and
• 49:07
  white
• 49:07
  ones
• 49:07
  from
• 49:07
  the
• 49:07
  1940s
• 49:08
  or
• 49:09
  whatever.
• 49:09
  Yeah.
• 49:09
  And
• 49:10
  that
• 49:10
  actually
• 49:11
  was
• 49:11
  part
• 49:11
  of
• 49:11
  the
• 49:11
  inspiration
• 49:12
  for
• 49:12
  what's
• 49:13
  going
• 49:13
  on
• 49:13
  in
• 49:13
  the
• 49:13
  story.
• 49:14
  It's
• 49:14
  like
• 49:14
  a
• 49:14
  B
• 49:14
  sci
• 49:15
  fi
• 49:15
  movie.
• 49:15
  And
• 49:16
  I
• 49:17
  came
• 49:17
  up
• 49:17
  with
• 49:17
  the
• 49:17
  title,
• 49:18
  but
• 49:18
  the
• 49:18
  title
• 49:19
  was
• 49:19
  inspired
• 49:20
  by
• 49:20
  one
• 49:21
  of
• 49:21
  those
• 49:21
  old
• 49:21
  black
• 49:22
  and
• 49:22
  white
• 49:22
  movies,
• 49:22
  was
• 49:23
  called
• 49:23
  Attack
• 49:23
  of
• 49:23
  the
• 49:23
  Killer
• 49:24
  Tomatoes.
• 49:24
  Ah.
• 49:25
  And
• 49:26
  the.
• 49:26
  If
• 49:26
  you
• 49:26
  look
• 49:27
  closely
• 49:27
  at
• 49:27
  the
• 49:27
  pictures,
• 49:28
  the
• 49:28
  illustrator
• 49:29
  actually
• 49:29
  put
• 49:29
  an
• 49:29
  Easter
• 49:29
  egg
• 49:30
  in
• 49:30
  there.
• 49:30
  The
• 49:30
  posters
• 49:31
  on
• 49:31
  the
• 49:31
  boy's
• 49:31
  door
• 49:32
  are
• 49:32
  showing
• 49:33
  that
• 49:33
  movie.
• 49:34
  That's
• 49:34
  so
• 49:35
  cool.
• 49:35
  Yeah,
• 49:36
  I
• 49:36
  love
• 49:36
  it.
• 49:36
  That's
• 49:37
  great
• 49:37
  to
• 49:37
  know
• 49:37
  for
• 49:38
  aspiring
• 49:38
  children's
• 49:39
  book
• 49:39
  authors
• 49:39
  is
• 49:40
  you
• 49:40
  can
• 49:40
  always
• 49:40
  put.
• 49:40
  A
• 49:41
  little
• 49:41
  rubber
• 49:42
  stamp
• 49:42
  and
• 49:42
  some
• 49:43
  stuff
• 49:43
  in
• 49:43
  there.
• 49:43
  Yeah.
• 49:44
  Waldo
• 49:44
  kind
• 49:44
  of
• 49:45
  thing.
• 49:45
  I'm
• 49:45
  not
• 49:45
  sure
• 49:46
  anybody
• 49:46
  would
• 49:47
  know
• 49:47
  that.
• 49:47
  It's
• 49:47
  an
• 49:47
  old
• 49:48
  black
• 49:48
  and
• 49:48
  white
• 49:48
  movie,
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  I'm
• 49:49
  not
• 49:49
  sure
• 49:49
  anybody
• 49:50
  with
• 49:50
  that,
• 49:50
  but
• 49:51
  yeah.
• 49:52
  So
• 49:52
  final
• 49:52
  thoughts.
• 49:53
  Is
• 49:53
  there
• 49:53
  something
• 49:54
  you'd
• 49:54
  you
• 49:55
  and
• 49:56
  Parker
• 49:56
  would
• 49:56
  like
• 49:56
  to
• 49:57
  share
• 49:57
  that
• 49:58
  maybe
• 49:58
  I
• 49:58
  didn't
• 49:59
  ask
• 49:59
  the
• 49:59
  question
• 50:00
  and
• 50:00
  how
• 50:01
  we
• 50:01
  can
• 50:01
  help
• 50:01
  readers
• 50:02
  or
• 50:02
  aspiring
• 50:03
  authors?
• 50:04
  Disney
• 50:05
  needs
• 50:05
  to
• 50:05
  hire
• 50:06
  me.
• 50:06
  He
• 50:06
  says
• 50:07
  Disney
• 50:07
  needs
• 50:07
  to
• 50:07
  hire
• 50:08
  him.
• 50:08
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  This
• 50:09
  kid
• 50:09
  is
• 50:09
  full
• 50:09
  of
• 50:10
  imagination.
• 50:10
  Yeah.
• 50:11
  Actually
• 50:11
  something
• 50:11
  that
• 50:12
  I
• 50:12
  didn't
• 50:12
  mention
• 50:13
  is
• 50:13
  that
• 50:13
  Parker
• 50:14
  has
• 50:14
  adhd.
• 50:15
  And
• 50:15
  the
• 50:15
  reason
• 50:15
  why
• 50:15
  I
• 50:16
  mentioned
• 50:16
  a
• 50:16
  lot
• 50:16
  of
• 50:16
  times
• 50:17
  kids
• 50:17
  who
• 50:17
  are
• 50:18
  neurodiverse,
• 50:19
  they
• 50:19
  get
• 50:19
  left
• 50:20
  behind
• 50:20
  or
• 50:21
  the
• 50:21
  thought
• 50:22
  could
• 50:22
  be
• 50:22
  there
• 50:22
  where
• 50:23
  they
• 50:23
  might
• 50:23
  not
• 50:23
  be
• 50:23
  as
• 50:24
  successful
• 50:25
  as
• 50:25
  somebody
• 50:25
  who
• 50:25
  is
• 50:26
  a
• 50:26
  neurotypical
• 50:27
  I
• 50:27
  think
• 50:28
  is
• 50:28
  what
• 50:28
  it's
• 50:28
  called.
• 50:29
  So
• 50:29
  one
• 50:30
  of
• 50:30
  the
• 50:30
  messages
• 50:30
  that
• 50:31
  we
• 50:31
  have
• 50:31
  as
• 50:32
  authors
• 50:32
  and
• 50:32
  creating
• 50:33
  things
• 50:33
  together
• 50:33
  is
• 50:34
  this
• 50:34
  idea
• 50:34
  that
• 50:34
  doesn't
• 50:35
  have
• 50:35
  to
• 50:35
  hold
• 50:35
  you
• 50:35
  back.
• 50:35
  You
• 50:36
  can
• 50:36
  be
• 50:36
  just
• 50:36
  as
• 50:36
  successful
• 50:37
  as
• 50:37
  anybody
• 50:37
  else.
• 50:38
  Absolutely.
• 50:39
  And
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  can
• 50:39
  tell
• 50:40
  by
• 50:40
  your
• 50:40
  creativity,
• 50:41
  Parker,
• 50:42
  it's
• 50:42
  fantastic.
• 50:44
  I
• 50:44
  want
• 50:44
  to
• 50:44
  thank
• 50:45
  you
• 50:45
  so
• 50:45
  much
• 50:45
  for
• 50:45
  being
• 50:45
  a
• 50:46
  guest
• 50:46
  on
• 50:46
  the
• 50:46
  Adventures
• 50:47
  in
• 50:47
  the
• 50:47
  Heart
• 50:47
  of
• 50:47
  Children's
• 50:48
  Book
• 50:48
  Authors
• 50:49
  podcast.
• 50:49
  Your
• 50:49
  your
• 50:50
  generosity
• 50:51
  of
• 50:51
  time
• 50:51
  and
• 50:52
  your
• 50:52
  insights.
• 50:53
  And
• 50:53
  I
• 50:53
  thank
• 50:53
  you,
• 50:53
  Parker,
• 50:54
  for
• 50:54
  sharing
• 50:55
  from
• 50:55
  a
• 50:55
  10
• 50:55
  year
• 50:55
  old's
• 50:56
  eyes.
• 50:57
  It's
• 50:57
  so
• 50:57
  important
• 50:58
  that
• 50:58
  that
• 50:58
  be
• 50:59
  shared
• 50:59
  because
• 51:00
  you're
• 51:00
  talking
• 51:00
  through
• 51:01
  the
• 51:01
  eyes
• 51:01
  of
• 51:01
  the
• 51:02
  people
• 51:02
  that
• 51:02
  we
• 51:02
  hope
• 51:02
  will
• 51:03
  read
• 51:03
  our
• 51:03
  book.
• 51:04
  So
• 51:04
  I
• 51:04
  just
• 51:04
  love
• 51:04
  that
• 51:05
  part.
• 51:05
  We
• 51:06
  promise
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  provide
• 51:07
  our
• 51:07
  audience
• 51:08
  with
• 51:08
  links
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  Sarah's
• 51:10
  website
• 51:10
  and
• 51:11
  all
• 51:11
  her
• 51:12
  social
• 51:12
  media
• 51:12
  links.
• 51:13
  And
• 51:13
  if
• 51:13
  you've
• 51:13
  enjoyed
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  episode,
• 51:15
  please
• 51:16
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• 51:16
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• 51:17
  to
• 51:18
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• 51:18
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• 51:18
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• 51:19
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• 51:20
  And
• 51:20
  feel
• 51:20
  free
• 51:21
  to
• 51:21
  share
• 51:21
  this
• 51:21
  episode
• 51:22
  with
• 51:22
  anyone
• 51:22
  who's
• 51:23
  inspired
• 51:24
  or
• 51:24
  enjoys
• 51:24
  hearing
• 51:25
  about
• 51:25
  Sarah
• 51:27
  and
• 51:27
  Parker's
• 51:28
  book,
• 51:29
  the
• 51:29
  Attack
• 51:29
  of
• 51:30
  the
• 51:30
  Monster.
• 51:31
  Pickles,
• 51:33
  thank
• 51:33
  you
• 51:33
  so
• 51:33
  much
• 51:34
  for
• 51:34
  having
• 51:34
  us.
• 51:34
  This
• 51:34
  was
• 51:34
  fun.
• 51:35
  My
• 51:35
  pleasure.