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Tim Beard - BOOK - Look Twice · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Eight o five Here fifty five CARCEV talk station. Happy Friday, Eve.
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  Speaker 1: I've been excited about this time all morning. I noticed
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  Speaker 1: on the rundown my guest this time. He's on the
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  Speaker 1: phone right now, Tim Beard. He's a gentleman, has three
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  Speaker 1: decades plus of experience in public and private sectors. Recruited
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  Speaker 1: by the CIA and the Director of Operations Clandestine Service. Parenthetically,
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  Speaker 1: Tim conducted and managed extremely sensitive clandesteine operations around the
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  Speaker 1: globe for the US government overseas postings multiple countries, Asia
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  Speaker 1: and the Middle East. Served as an on active duty
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  Speaker 1: in the US Marine Corps as an industry officer, and
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  Speaker 1: thank you for your service to our country, Sir, attaining
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  Speaker 1: the grade of Captain. He retired from the CIA, founded
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  Speaker 1: a global intelligence and risk mitigation consulting company where he
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  Speaker 1: assists clients and achieving strategic and tactical objectives in high
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  Speaker 1: pressure en environments under complex circumstances, which we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about right now. Welcome to the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: carse Morning Show. Tim Beard, author of Look Twice, Your
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  Speaker 1: Guide to Staying Safe in an Unsafe World, Volume one. Tim,
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  Speaker 1: good to hear from you today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much, buying for having me on. I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Timing couldn't be better in terms of societal issues going on,
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  Speaker 1: set as they may be. But I was at the
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  Speaker 1: eye doctor yesterday and I'm sitting in the office little
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  Speaker 1: you know, where they put you, and they wait for
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  Speaker 1: the doctor to come in. I look up and there's
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  Speaker 1: one of those door braces hanging on the wall in
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  Speaker 1: cases gun fire in the hallway. You slide that brace in,
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  Speaker 1: you lock it in place so they can't get the
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  Speaker 1: door in. I'm looking at that, and I'm going, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I understand the justification for it, but what a sorry
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  Speaker 1: commentary on life that we even need those. But apparently
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  Speaker 1: my eye doctor's clinic talk to you, that is something
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  Speaker 1: you might want to have in place because you've prepared.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that the basis of look twice, like, measure twice,
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  Speaker 1: cut once, look twice, sir?
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  Speaker 2: It is. And that's the thing, first of all I
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  Speaker 2: want to say to your audience is security is not hard.
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  Speaker 2: They can do this, but it comes to doing the fundamentals,
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  Speaker 2: the basics, the right stuff every time, and it comes
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  Speaker 2: to planning and preparation before something happens. That's how the
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  Speaker 2: work that I did, for example, before I retired from
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  Speaker 2: the agency. When you're out doing the work, you have
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  Speaker 2: to plan and plan and plan because something's going to
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  Speaker 2: go wrong. But at least then you have a plan
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  Speaker 2: to fall back on so you can adjust. And I
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  Speaker 2: cover a lot of that in the book series. There's
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  Speaker 2: actually three books. The first one's out now, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was getting ready asking about volumes two and three. We'll
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  Speaker 1: wait for those. But in the initiation, of course my insect,
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  Speaker 1: you break it down into environments like, for example, safe
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  Speaker 1: at home and work. What you need to prepare for
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  Speaker 1: at home probably a lot different than if you're going
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  Speaker 1: out to the supermarket, the grocery store, or you're traveling.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with what some of the points you
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  Speaker 1: bring up in how to stay safe at work? We need,
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  Speaker 1: I guess we need to be first aware of the
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  Speaker 1: concept that we need to think about our safety and
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost. I think that may be the biggest challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Although in the home and work, what are some vulnerabilities
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  Speaker 1: that my listeners should be focused on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, for example, with the workplace, you want to know
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  Speaker 2: what you got, So in the book I talk about
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  Speaker 2: assessing your workplace you know, do you have a security
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  Speaker 2: force there? What's the nature of the industry? Do you
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  Speaker 2: have clients come to your workplace? Or if a visitor
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  Speaker 2: shows up? Is that of a warning sign right there?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's supposed to be coming here. People don't, They don't
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  Speaker 2: visit here. If if somebody is coming, what is you know?
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  Speaker 2: Is it do you sell? Do you sell children's toys
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  Speaker 2: or are you selling pharmaceuticals? What is the nature of
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  Speaker 2: the business. That's going to be an important piece for
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  Speaker 2: assessing that. So that's one thing. The other thing, too,
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  Speaker 2: is that if you do have a problem, you want
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  Speaker 2: to plan ahead while you're calm, while you don't have
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  Speaker 2: adrenaline pouring through your body and you start making bad decisions.
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  Speaker 2: So the standard one that we use, which DHS pushes
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  Speaker 2: is run, hide, fight. So if something does happen, you
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  Speaker 2: want to plan for this in advance. You need to
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  Speaker 2: know where you're going to run to. That's the first
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  Speaker 2: thing you want to do. You want to get away.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you going to run to? You want to
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  Speaker 2: plan and say I'm going to run down the street there,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to run over here, I'm going to keep
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  Speaker 2: going until I'm out of the way until I'm out
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  Speaker 2: of where I'm not going to be observed, but also
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  Speaker 2: where I'm not going to be in the line of gunfire.
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  Speaker 2: So you want to be behind a building, behind a
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  Speaker 2: very thick wall, and I'm not talking drywall, I'm talking concrete,
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  Speaker 2: thick concrete. The second piece of that is hide. If
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  Speaker 2: for some reason you can't get away, you can't run,
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  Speaker 2: which is certainly what you want to do, then you
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  Speaker 2: need to hide. Well. Most people as a kid, they played,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hide and seek. Well, while you're calm, while
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking clearly, find three, four or five really really
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  Speaker 2: good places that you can hide, that you can get
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  Speaker 2: to in your workplace, because then you're less inclined to
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  Speaker 2: make errors. You're going to choose pretty bad spots if
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  Speaker 2: you're stressed out and the adrenaline's poorn through your body
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  Speaker 2: and you're you know, facing a difficult situation. So figure
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  Speaker 2: those places out in advance. Nowhere you're going to go.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's getting the mindset right. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: of course, if you have to, and no one wants
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  Speaker 2: to have to do this, if you have to fight,
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  Speaker 2: fight like your life depends on it, and that would
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  Speaker 2: be the last option. That's something you can do for work.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Now, considering you're talking about looking place and
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  Speaker 1: being prepared and being safe, if you are stuck with
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  Speaker 1: that option, does that also not require some advanced preparation?
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  Speaker 1: Can you even fight? How will you fight? If you're
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  Speaker 1: in a desperate situation. I appreciate you're probably going to
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  Speaker 1: resort to whatever you got around you, but if you
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  Speaker 1: think ahead of time. Me being a support of the
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  Speaker 1: Second Amendment and the owner of multiple firearms, I know
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  Speaker 1: where I'm going to do and what I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do in terms of fighting back. I'm prepared to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But not everybody's in that position, sir, Yeah, and that.
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  Speaker 2: Is that is tough. I know. I've worked, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: in the public and private sectors. Some of the private
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  Speaker 2: sector places I consulted in the energy industry in Texas
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  Speaker 2: after I retired, and even though it was Texas, there
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  Speaker 2: were a lot of places where firearms were strictly prohibited
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  Speaker 2: from even the property. You could not have that there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big Second Amendment guy as well, having a marine,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't have firearm certain places. A lot of workplaces,
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  Speaker 2: even if they are pro Second Amendment, let you leave
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  Speaker 2: it in your car. They won't let you bring it
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  Speaker 2: into the workplace. And so that's where you have to
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  Speaker 2: as I said, and initially, you have to know what
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  Speaker 2: kind of a security force is present. There is the
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  Speaker 2: security force if you even have one at your company.
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  Speaker 2: Are they carrying radios which means they're there for insurance compliance,
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  Speaker 2: they're there to observe and report, or are they carrying firearms?
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  Speaker 2: And are they you know they would be trained and
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  Speaker 2: licensed by the state, But are you going to put
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  Speaker 2: your life in their hands? Those are things where you
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  Speaker 2: want to know in advance what you're looking at so
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  Speaker 2: you don't get surprised when the moment of truth comes.
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  Speaker 1: Tim Beard, the author of the book we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: Look Twice. Your guide to is Staying Safe in an
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  Speaker 1: Unsafe World, Volume one. You know, I always struggle with that.
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  Speaker 1: If your employer says you are prohibited from bringing a
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  Speaker 1: firearm into work, it seems to me as a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: they must take on the role of guaranteeing your safety
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  Speaker 1: because they've taken away the first and best choice for
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  Speaker 1: many people, the great equalizer. And if you get crazies
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  Speaker 1: coming into the room, as we know can happen from
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  Speaker 1: time to time, hence the purpose of your book. And
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  Speaker 1: they don't provide you adequate security to repel those crazies.
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  Speaker 1: They have put you in a I think an unsupportable position,
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  Speaker 1: and there's.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of legal discussion about that. I am not
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  Speaker 2: an attorney like you are, but there has been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of discussion about is that is the company liable
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  Speaker 2: if they have to provide a safe environment for you
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  Speaker 2: to work in. At one point I want to make
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  Speaker 2: on that too. When we talk about getting ahead of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff, some people say, well, my workplace isn't really
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  Speaker 2: a problem. But what happens is people bring problems from
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  Speaker 2: home into their workplace. For example, say they have a
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  Speaker 2: partner and they're separated, they're strange from them. The partner
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  Speaker 2: is going to know that they're at work. That's a
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  Speaker 2: place they can find them. And this is why the
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  Speaker 2: company needs to be aware of this in advance and
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  Speaker 2: say hey, we don't allow it. Visitors. If that partner
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  Speaker 2: shows up and says, hey, I just want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to them. One, you don't know if they have a
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  Speaker 2: weapon on them. Two. A lot of times that may
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  Speaker 2: have been their intention when they came there, but that
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  Speaker 2: can degrade because emotions get involved, and if the person
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  Speaker 2: is predisposed to violence, they may become violent with the
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  Speaker 2: person they want to talk to and other collateral folks
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  Speaker 2: around that that's a problem, and that's why a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times you don't accept visitors at work. You know,
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  Speaker 2: keep those problems at home. People don't realize that it's
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  Speaker 2: it's something that's It can also be the problem employee.
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  Speaker 2: The employee that after something happens, everyone knows it's been
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  Speaker 2: reported to HR fifty times and they haven't done anything
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  Speaker 2: about it. Most companies they know somebody in the company
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  Speaker 2: that has been difficult and just you need to keep
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  Speaker 2: If you see something, you need to keep reporting that.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise they'll say, well, there was no data, there was
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  Speaker 2: nothing we could do about it because no one ever
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  Speaker 2: said anything. The little things about getting ahead of the problems,
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  Speaker 2: that's throughout the book. One of the major themes I
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  Speaker 2: have is about mitigating risk. And the term I used
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  Speaker 2: avoid avoid avoid sounds simple, but if you apply those
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  Speaker 2: concepts it will really help.
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  Speaker 1: It'll help, but maybe not work in all circumstances. I'm
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  Speaker 1: chuckling a little bit, Tim Beard, author of Look Twice,
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  Speaker 1: Volume one, Because you do have a full section on
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  Speaker 1: transportation awareness. One of the subject matters you deal with
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  Speaker 1: his road rage. I personally had to experience the only
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  Speaker 1: time I ever had to pull out my concealed carry
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  Speaker 1: that I thought it was actually going to have to
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  Speaker 1: use it. This guy, who ultimately turned out to have
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  Speaker 1: been whacked out on heroin and fentanyl or heroin and
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  Speaker 1: meth amphetamine. I think it was literally tried to kill me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with his truck on the highway and I tried
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  Speaker 1: to get out of the way I was up. I
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  Speaker 1: zipped up to one hundred and twenty miles an hour
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  Speaker 1: trying to escape him, and every time I did, I
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  Speaker 1: ended up running into traffic. He pit maneuvered me in
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  Speaker 1: an on ramp, tried he rammed me multiple times. He
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  Speaker 1: clearly wanted to kill me. So finally, when my car
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  Speaker 1: became disabled, you know, I had my gun on my
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  Speaker 1: open the car door. I'm ready for him to being
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  Speaker 1: attacking me, and he had ended up walking across the street.
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  Speaker 1: But there I was stuck in that very situation. I
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  Speaker 1: was prepared because I had a gun. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think average run of the mill, every day people should
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  Speaker 1: be thinking about when it comes to dealing with issues
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  Speaker 1: of driving or riding on subways even.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and then let me mention Brian, there were a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things you mentioned there that I would choose
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  Speaker 2: to do differently. When you said your speed's kept going
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  Speaker 2: higher and higher than what you end up doing, is
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  Speaker 2: you run the risk of causing additional problems. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: you could hit somebody or something. What I would tend
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  Speaker 2: to do, I would reduce my speed, but you got
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  Speaker 2: to keep moving.
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  Speaker 1: I started, I started with that. I cut out a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the details. I started with that approach, and
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  Speaker 1: he got in front of me. He wouldn't let me proceed,
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  Speaker 1: and I figured he was going to try to come
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  Speaker 1: out of his truck and kill me. I drive a little,
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  Speaker 1: tiny two seater sports car. He was in a big
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  Speaker 1: King cab F three point fifty or something. So I
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  Speaker 1: was out gun, outsized, and of course dealing with traffick nditions.
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  Speaker 1: But there I was presented with that a situation where
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  Speaker 1: I was faced with that, you know, eminent apprehension of
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  Speaker 1: grievous bodily harm. So if I read the book, may
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  Speaker 1: be able to look approach it differently. But that's the
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing that Tim wants you to think about.
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  Speaker 1: Tim Beard name of the book, Look Twice Your Guide
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  Speaker 1: to Staying Safe in an Unsafe World. Volume one, what's
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  Speaker 1: going to be attacked in Volumes two and three when
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  Speaker 1: they come out, Tim real Quick.
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  Speaker 2: Volume two covers it's Look Twice Your Guide is staying
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  Speaker 2: safe with tech, travel and natural disasters. I have a
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  Speaker 2: big section in there about safe tech. I talk about fraud,
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  Speaker 2: craud prevention, business travel, vacation travel, learning a new city.
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  Speaker 2: When you go to a new place, how do you
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  Speaker 2: tackle that city pretty quickly? Look Twice. The third volume,
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  Speaker 2: Look Twice your Guide when danger comes to you at
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  Speaker 2: home and overseas. And that one I talk about civil
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  Speaker 2: unrest and how to get you and your loved ones
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  Speaker 2: out of harm's way. I talk about that. That one's
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  Speaker 2: going to be very very important right now. Self Defense
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  Speaker 2: I talk about what happens when you get cornered. You'll
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  Speaker 2: certainly appreciate that portion because I talk about weapons selection.
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  Speaker 2: I talk about a bunch of different things involving self defense,
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  Speaker 2: a little chapter on medical response because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't think about that, but it's important. And then
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  Speaker 2: overseas travel and leving. I have a major section on that.
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  Speaker 2: Your your audience can find more information at Tim Beard
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  Speaker 2: author dot com. That's Tim B. E A R D.
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  Speaker 2: Like it sounds author dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we gave you the benefit of the doubt, Tim,
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  Speaker 1: we've given an opportunity for my listeners get a copy
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  Speaker 1: of your book right now. It's already on my blog
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  Speaker 1: page fifty five krs dot com. My listeners know that
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  Speaker 1: one your links are right there. Tim Beard, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your service to our country long standing, and your
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  Speaker 1: ongoing service to the community by giving us this valuable information.
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  Speaker 1: It's been wonderful talking with you today.