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  Speaker 3: Let's get things started with college football and my Ducks
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  Speaker 3: and Dante Moore here in first off, there's.
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  Speaker 2: Go time, that's wrongs.
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  Speaker 3: As I said last night, Oregon has been waiting for
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  Speaker 3: this moment to redeem themselves after what Ohio State did
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  Speaker 3: to them at the Rules Bowl last year in the
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  Speaker 3: first iteration of the College football twelve team playoff. Embarrassed themselves.
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  Speaker 3: It was embarrassing for them, It was embarrassing for Dan Lanning.
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  Speaker 3: They got smoked at the Rose Bowl and they were
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  Speaker 3: the number one overall team in the country. They had
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  Speaker 3: not lost a game, they had already beaten Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: and last week, well a couple of weeks ago, it
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  Speaker 3: was James Madison who they started off this year's tournament,
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  Speaker 3: the twelve team tournament we have now in college football. Well,
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  Speaker 3: James Madison wasn't exactly the team they were looking to
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  Speaker 3: start with to get the revenge Tour underway, but it
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  Speaker 3: was a good warm up, almost like a scrimmage at times,
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to the like long layoff they had last
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  Speaker 3: year before taking on Ohio State. So my Ducks came
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  Speaker 3: out in this game today night. They were shot out
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  Speaker 3: of a cannon and Chip Kelly was still the head coach.
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  Speaker 3: With their up tempo offense, the Chain Gang couldn't keep
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  Speaker 3: up with them. At first, it was brilliant against that
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  Speaker 3: aggressive pin your ears back Texas Tech defense use their
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  Speaker 3: aggressiveness against them and get the all out quick. They
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  Speaker 3: looked unstoppable. It was like the quick quack car wash
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  Speaker 3: Chain And then David Bailey sacked Dante More and they
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  Speaker 3: had to settle for a field goal. Texas Tech gets
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  Speaker 3: it back, tries their own up tempo offense and all
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  Speaker 3: it did for them was lead to a punt quicker.
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  Speaker 3: The Ducks get the ball back, convert a fourth and
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  Speaker 3: two at midfield to Kenyon Sadiq, and then tried a
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  Speaker 3: fourth and one play to run it and they got
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  Speaker 3: stopped again by that great Texas Tech defense. Now, Oregon's
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  Speaker 3: defense pretty damn good as well, as a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people found out today. They got Tech to go three
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  Speaker 3: and out, and while Oregon only had three points at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the first quarter, they ran twenty five place.
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  Speaker 3: They controlled the clock even with how good Texas Tech's
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  Speaker 3: defense is. But Oregon's defense is no sloush And on
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  Speaker 3: the second play of the second quarter, true freshman Brandon
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  Speaker 3: Finny gets that first pick. Nobody talking about how good
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  Speaker 3: Oregon's defense is. This was their moment to shine a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. Not Morton's in the quarterback for Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 3: That was just his fifth pick all season long, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a bad one. Now, Texas Tech in that
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  Speaker 3: front seven, they look like a damn NFL team out there,
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  Speaker 3: like on All Madden Mode, that type of thing. It
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  Speaker 3: honestly looks like the Red Raiders would beat the Las
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  Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders right now.
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  Speaker 4: The Raiders suck.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not, that's disrespectful. It is, But the Las
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  Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders are also trying to lose and tank for
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  Speaker 3: the number one pick to get Fernando Mendoza. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about him in a little bit. Oregon's best play, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: in the first half was a fake punt, and it
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  Speaker 3: was a great fake like Meg Ryan's fake in when
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  Speaker 3: Harry met Sally rip Rob Reiner. That fake punt works
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  Speaker 3: so well. I'm like, hey, why not do that fake
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  Speaker 3: punt thing on first down, second down, third down two?
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  Speaker 3: That's Oregon's best offense so far. But they get it
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  Speaker 3: to Tech's two and they're going for it. After all,
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  Speaker 3: if you're willing to do that at midfield, you can't
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  Speaker 3: not go forward. At the two yard line, David Bailey
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  Speaker 3: bats down Dante Moore's pass rolling to his right that
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  Speaker 3: had no chance again. Bo I was especially upset at
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  Speaker 3: this point because my breakfast burrito that I ordered arrived
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, and I wanted to be celebrating
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  Speaker 3: the feast with a touchdown, not a turnover on downs
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  Speaker 3: at the goal line. I have to emotionally eat to
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  Speaker 3: handle stressful games like this. Organ eventually gets the ball
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  Speaker 3: back though, as Finny recovers a fumble by Tech, but
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  Speaker 3: of course they have to settle for a field goal.
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  Speaker 3: They at least didn't try to go forward again. Texas
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  Speaker 3: Tech defense is the best that I have seen. I
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  Speaker 3: texted my buddy at one point, I can't believe how
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  Speaker 3: good this d is.
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  Speaker 2: That's not sexual.
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech defense has organ and Dante Moore completely shook
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  Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage in that first half where
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  Speaker 3: he's trying to read their defense pre snap during the
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  Speaker 3: snap too, and instead he's taken the foot ball off
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  Speaker 3: of his face on some of these miscues on shotgun
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  Speaker 3: snaps like it was unbelievable. Texas Tech and that defense,
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  Speaker 3: I can't say enough about them, but I can talk
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  Speaker 3: about Organs defense too, because the second best defense might
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  Speaker 3: be Organs against Texas Tech's offense. The Ducks are up
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  Speaker 3: six to nothing at the half. Oregon at the ball
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  Speaker 3: for twenty two minutes, Texas Tech just eight minutes. It
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  Speaker 3: took me longer than those eight minutes to eat that
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  Speaker 3: big ass breakfast burrito. I got so out of nowhere
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  Speaker 3: at the half. Third Eye Blind and old ass Stephen
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  Speaker 3: Jenkins is performing. It's not just his third eye, his
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  Speaker 3: mind's eye that's blind anymore, though he's old enough where
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he can see for reels. Love him.
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  Speaker 3: The deep cuts from Third Eye Blind, especially in the
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  Speaker 3: first two albums Elite, They of course played semi Charmed
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  Speaker 3: life though, because it's like their most catchy song, even
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  Speaker 3: though it's actually about uh, crystal meth. Do you want
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  Speaker 3: to get hot? Yeah, it's you.
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  Speaker 4: You want to cook crystal meth.
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  Speaker 3: This stat is crazier than doing crystal meth. Dan Lanning
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  Speaker 3: is forty one and one when leading at the half,
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  Speaker 3: now forty two in one. The second half starts and
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  Speaker 3: the Red Raiders offense looks like the Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Raiders on the Raiders suck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad.
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  Speaker 3: Mateo ooy Young La Young Concrete they call him. He
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  Speaker 3: rips the ball away from that statue under center for
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  Speaker 3: Tech and Morton and they have it at the six
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  Speaker 3: and the first offensive play they run, they get their
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  Speaker 3: first touchdown Jordan Davison. Ducks are up thirteen to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Here's something though, that had me furious.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now I'm getting very irritated.
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  Speaker 3: Organ gets the ball back and they go for it
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  Speaker 3: on fourth and two at Tech's forty six. Dante Moore
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  Speaker 3: throws a pick to Ben Roberts. Why even go for that?
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  Speaker 3: You're up two scores, it's thirty to nothing, your defense
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  Speaker 3: is lights out. You can stop them. You can get
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  Speaker 3: the ball back with a new set of downs. Right
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  Speaker 3: about there, Dan Lanning, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: The kids are playing their tail and the countess are
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  Speaker 4: screwing it up.
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  Speaker 3: We've gotta have some situational awareness time and score and
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  Speaker 3: field position in big games. Dan Lanning's decision making has
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  Speaker 3: been questioned before by others and even himself. He apologized
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  Speaker 3: in the first half were not getting more points and
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  Speaker 3: just taking the chip shot field goals. But Tech they
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  Speaker 3: had three first downs in their first drive in the
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  Speaker 3: third quarter, after having three first downs total in the
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  Speaker 3: first half alone. I had already ordered my victory Sunday
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  Speaker 3: on door dash. Yes, I followed up the big aspirrito
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  Speaker 3: with the Sunday let me eat. Okay, it's fine, Why.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you take a taste of the drink?
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  Speaker 4: There?
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  Speaker 3: That too, you are opening the door, though, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning, by making that move, you are opening the
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  Speaker 3: door for the game to flip momentum wise. Luckily, Tech
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  Speaker 3: throws a pick in the end zone on a jump ball,
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  Speaker 3: and Finny has another pick their true freshman at corner,
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  Speaker 3: and that pretty much all but sealed it for Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: as they kicked another field goal that was sixteen to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And then they smoked Baron Morton once more before it
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  Speaker 3: was over by a player named Blake Purchase. Somebody tweeted
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  Speaker 3: this out quote. For Texas Tech to end up having
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  Speaker 3: their season ended by a dude named Purchase sacking their
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  Speaker 3: quarterback is peak irony.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning, by the way, then called a time out,
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  Speaker 3: ran up the score a little bit or maybe I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, was working on his team and not so
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  Speaker 3: much worried about your team. You don't want him to
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  Speaker 3: score again. Stop him. Your defense is pretty damn good,
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech. You want to try out plays on that
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  Speaker 3: defense maybe and show that you're ready for the next opponent.
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  Speaker 3: It's a physical football game out there. Like, let me
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  Speaker 3: get this straight. Last week, people were upset with Oregon
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  Speaker 3: or were doubting them because they gave up some scores
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  Speaker 3: late after the game was out of hand against James Madison,
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  Speaker 3: and now they're mad at Oregon for running through the
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  Speaker 3: tape and continuing to play hard up sixteen nothing. Y'all
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  Speaker 3: are just gonna look to criticize anything with them. I
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  Speaker 3: don't understand it. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive. I am
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  Speaker 3: wearing an Oregon Ducks hat, but you know, what Texas
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  Speaker 3: Tech coach Joey McGuire said postgame quote, I hope Dan
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  Speaker 3: Lanning wins the whole damn thing. They didn't seem too
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  Speaker 3: bothered by it, So it looks like me and my
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  Speaker 3: ducks got the last laugh here, mister peepers. It was
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  Speaker 3: so annoying at duck Hunt, that dog laughing at you
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  Speaker 3: every time you missed the ducks out there. All right,
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  Speaker 3: enough of my ducktails. Time to get to Oregon's next opponent.
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  Speaker 3: And we found out pretty early who would be as
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana Hoosers beat down h Hoosiers. The Omama Crimson
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  Speaker 3: tiede lost thirty eight two three at the Rose Bowl
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  Speaker 3: as Fernando Mendoza went fourteen of sixteen passing with three touchdowns. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't even that close. This was complete domination. And
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  Speaker 3: what's crazy about this is Indiana became the first team
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  Speaker 3: in the twelve team playoff with a bye to not
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  Speaker 3: loseo oh, they won, all right? Indiana was not rusty
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State, Texas Tech, what's your excuse this season? This
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  Speaker 3: year's second year the twelve team playoff, Indiana had all
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  Speaker 3: that time off too. What was Oregon's excuse last year,
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  Speaker 3: or Georgia's or Boise States or Arizona States by teams
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  Speaker 3: were zero and six in the twelve team playoff format
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  Speaker 3: in the quarterfinals until Indiana came in and said, f
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  Speaker 3: you're by say bye to eddieone that is playing us.
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  Speaker 3: The first half of that ballgame, they're just so stout
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  Speaker 3: up front. They force you into mistakes and eventually they're
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  Speaker 3: going to capitalize on them. They were balanced on the
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  Speaker 3: offensive side eighty six yards rushing, ninety three yards passing
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  Speaker 3: for Indiana. Beautiful balance, and they're up seventeen to nothing
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  Speaker 3: in the first half after a slow start because of
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  Speaker 3: Bama mistakes, not converting on a fourth down the Ty
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  Speaker 3: Simpson fumbled in the first half. They just they wait
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  Speaker 3: for you to beat yourself, and while you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: get by their defense, good luck. They're going to force
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  Speaker 3: you into those mistakes. Eventually. The thing with them is,
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  Speaker 3: and it's a little bit terrifying because that first game
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  Speaker 3: Oregan played at Austin against Indiana, when everybody realized, oh
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  Speaker 3: is Indiana Hoosiers are for real? Kurt Signetti is a monster,
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  Speaker 3: a different type of monster. They are a machine out
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  Speaker 3: there with their precision, with their attention to detail, and
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  Speaker 3: just making mistake free football out there. That touchdown to
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  Speaker 3: Becker from Mendoza a thing of beauty after the Ty
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  Speaker 3: Simpson fumble, and Mendoza in the red zone has been
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  Speaker 3: well perfect, I guess perfect. Yeah, he hasn't had a
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  Speaker 3: turnover and he was perfect in this game as well.
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  Speaker 3: They come out of the half after being up by
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  Speaker 3: seventeen nothing. Some people are trying to make the example
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  Speaker 3: of oh, you know, this is analogous to what happened
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  Speaker 3: in the opening round. Bama was down seventeen to nothing
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  Speaker 3: to Oklahoma. This is not Oklahoma, this is Indiana. This
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  Speaker 3: is different. They get a stop, they get the surat touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: and Bama is down twenty four to nothing. Now you're
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  Speaker 3: down twenty four to nothing and you're Bama and they
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  Speaker 3: ended up getting into a goal line situation where they
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  Speaker 3: settled for a field goal. That's a little bit soft.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, you're down twenty four to nothing, you
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  Speaker 3: have to score touchdowns? Are you just trying to put
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  Speaker 3: some lipstick on this pig and not get totally shut out?
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  Speaker 3: You didn't want to be thirty eight to zero, thirty
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  Speaker 3: eight to three looks so much better out there. I
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  Speaker 3: cannot stand when coaches do this. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with Kaitlyn Deborr now, but coaches that
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  Speaker 3: will just do enough to try not to lose too
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  Speaker 3: poorly instead of trying to win the football game. Not
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  Speaker 3: to channel herm Edwards here or anything, but back to
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  Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti. The guy scares the hell out of me.
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Knight would have loved him. He's a monster and
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  Speaker 3: he's created one now at Indiana. Kurt Signetti is that
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  Speaker 3: evil movie villain in a sports movie that sucks, but
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  Speaker 3: it also sucks playing him, Like I've already seen my
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  Speaker 3: Ducks loosed him once at home. Signetti is out there
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  Speaker 3: chasing perfect. They're looking to destroy you, crush your souls
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  Speaker 3: along the way. I think when they showed that stealth
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  Speaker 3: bomber that flew over the stadium at the Rose ball
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  Speaker 3: at the half like he was in it and gave
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  Speaker 3: his players a thumbs up like, Okay, we're up seventeen,
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  Speaker 3: we can do better. They did went in thirty eight
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  Speaker 3: to three. So I just don't know what they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: do against this Indiana ball club because they're now proving
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  Speaker 3: it on the big stage. Last season, it was well,
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  Speaker 3: they got bounced early in the playoff, but that was
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  Speaker 3: just year one with Signetty. I mean, this team won
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  Speaker 3: three or four games the year before he came to Indiana,
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  Speaker 3: and now they look like one of the blue bloods
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden. It's incredible. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not hearing a damn thing from Notre Dame fans
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  Speaker 3: who are saying, see, Alabama didn't belong, They shouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: been here, they shouldn't have been in this spot. Look,
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  Speaker 3: Alabama at least won a game in the playoff. They
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  Speaker 3: beat Oklahoma Indiana. I don't know if anybody's beating them.
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  Speaker 3: There's no shame in losing to Signetti and this Indiana team.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. They're trying to go like Ohio State went
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  Speaker 3: last season, just buzzsaw through the playoffs. They're going for
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  Speaker 3: chainsaw their leather face out there. That's how scary this
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  Speaker 3: team is. But Notre Dame, you have no argument. Stop stop.
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  Speaker 3: I know Bama had three losses, they still had a
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  Speaker 3: much better win against Georgia. What was your best win?
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  Speaker 3: Your best win was two losses? Close losses to Miami
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  Speaker 3: and to Texas A and M and then Miami. Well
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  Speaker 3: they've won two games already in the playoffs, including beating
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  Speaker 3: Texas A and M.
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  Speaker 5: Who beats you. You don't get to talk dead men,
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  Speaker 5: tell no tales. That's how this works. You're out. I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to hear peep for mister peepers.
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  Speaker 3: How's this dog's name? By the way, and duck hunt
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  Speaker 3: or Notre Dame fans right now, I'm sorry. You don't
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  Speaker 3: get a leg to stand on. The argument doesn't hold water.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to say you should have been in
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  Speaker 3: over JMU and Tulane, fine, there's a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: that should have been in over them by you can
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  Speaker 3: make a case too. The twelve team playoff is still flawed.
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  Speaker 3: But just because now Bama finally lost and you want
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  Speaker 3: to dance on their grave and say we were better
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  Speaker 3: on that team by what metric? Because you had one
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  Speaker 3: less loss. You also didn't play an SEC schedule. You're
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  Speaker 3: still picking and choosing who you want to play every season.
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  Speaker 3: You won't join a conference. Yes, you play the ACC
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  Speaker 3: teams and you lost to the best one you played.
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't understand the Golden domer stuff. It
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  Speaker 3: is infuriating to see how many people will bend the
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  Speaker 3: knee in this whole USC Notre Dame debate, which we
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  Speaker 3: got into a little bit last night as well. It's tired.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: resurgence coming from? Where he's had three forty point games
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• 18:48
  Speaker 4: is how much do you get it? Both in general
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: as far as in actually being able to play games
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: and play his minutes, and then the quality of it
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: right like he is shooting more and that is scary.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: He's that was my favorite part of what he said
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: over the weekend, like he's never had to do this before.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: He's never been on teams that required him to play
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: like this for his team to succeed. You know, like
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: all those San Antonio Spurs teams. We why didn't come
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: into the NBA being asked to be a bucket? And
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: even when he got to the point where he wasn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: All Star this it was a Finals MVP before he
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: was an All Star, right, And like those teams had
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: future Hall of famers on it that were still capable
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: in very different ways of charying offense. He came into
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the league with Ten Duncans, Tony Parker, monug nobody, those
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: three dudes very different. Even LaMarcus Audridge was on the
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: San Antonio Spurs before any of those dudes left the team, right,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Kawhi took the mantles playing the right way. We hear
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: that term a lot, and it's not that he's not
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: playing the right way now, but he's playing in a
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: way that if you want wins, this is how you
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: get them. And I think it's a huge credit to him.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It's a huge credit to that team that they still
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: care enough to try and make something of what was
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: an awful start to their season, and now they've gone
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: from an F team to a C minus team, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: that should scare people because the rest of the Western
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Conference no one's you know, in terms of like the
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: top six or the top ten. The Clippers are going
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: to be relevant and as long as they avoid any
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: more rakes to.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Step on, yeah, injury rakes as well. We know how
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it goes with the Clippers. Unfortunately, what about the other
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: team in Los Angeles where the Lakers I believe have
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: lost four of their last five and look like one
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: of the worst defenses in the league over the last month. Now,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: while the Brooklyn Nets have been one of the best,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the Lakers have dropped to bottom three or somewhere in
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: that range. And a lot of people, of course, it's
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: low level, it's surface level. They say, well, Lebron's back,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: they're not winning anymore. What's the big picture of you
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: on this Lakers team and Lebron and if he and
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Luca doncies because you've been tracking his net rating going
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: back to last season and just how things have changed
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: since he's gotten older with Lebron, but can he work
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: with Luca and can he still be a winning, impactful
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: player on this Lakers team.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. It's like, you know, you got people
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: who were super happy to vote for Lebron James as
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: an MVP candidate. We're an All NBA candidate because they
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: see what he's doing, they see what he's doing at
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the age that he's doing it, and they see the
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: team that he plays for, and they want to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: attached to that, and you know that's goal. Like Lebron
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: is still a good basketball player. He's still a great
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: basketball player. He's still able to make shots, to make
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: passes and don't call Luke Bournette like Lebron can do
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: those things. Is it leading to advantages in games? That's
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing that I looked at last year. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: couldn't say that two years ago when Darvin Ham was
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: coaching the team. Lebron being on the floor still led
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the Lakers to wins as far as you know, outscoring
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: opponents while he's on the floor, Like that's an objective measure.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I broke it down every way that I could before Luca.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: After Luca got there in the playoffs, like the Lakers
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: were not a winning team with Lebron on the floor,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: but they were when Lebron was off the floor, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: so like, they were not good this time last year.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: They were outscored by seventy seven points, even though they
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: had a record that was four games over five hundred
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: at this point last year. Them starting fifteen and five
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: was huge, but it also established where the Lakers were
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: best as a team, and that was with Luca and
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Austin playing off of each other. Those two dudes complement
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: each other in a way that we are not seeing
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the same synergy when it's just Luca and Lebron, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: they have to figure that out because the Lakers are
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: at their works this season as far as line ups
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: with Luka Doncic on the floor with one other guy,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: They're at their works when it's Luka and Lebron. They're
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: at their best when it's Luca and Austin. We saw
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: a version of the Lakers that was really good. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you can talk about their schedule, you can talk about whatever.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I've seen. The Lakers lose some bad teams and lose
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: some good teams. Okay, so it's Lebron. We have to
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: be able to say two things at once. Lebron is
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: still a good basketball player, Okay, Well, Lebron is not
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: a player that the Lakers at this time are playing
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: their best basketball with while he's on the floor. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: if that doesn't change, then the Lakers are going to
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: continue to slip in the sandwich.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: NBA reporter extraordinaiy La Murray from The Athletic is joining
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: us here. I'm at a Moslin in for big Ben
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Maller on Fox Sports Radio at La Murray, the U
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: was where you find him on x SO law. Why
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: do I feel like we could be days away from
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Giannis Adnakompo trade? It just feels inevitable. He used to
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: being asked about it. He likes to deflect. He likes
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: to say I'm here, but that doesn't mean he's going
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: to be here within the next couple of months. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: they just lost to the Washington Wizards. How do you
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: see this playing out in Milwaukee right now?
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's not the first time that they
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: lost to the Wizards either, you know, And it's I
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: don't want to disrespect the Wizards, because the thing about
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: the Wizards bad team with a bad record, but they
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: have thrones on that team, and they have they have
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: guys who if you're not prepared to play as well
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: as you need to play as if it's of any
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: average team, then they will beat you and it will
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: feel embarrassing. And Doc Rivers pointed that out when they
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: lost on New Year's Eve. Doc said they did not
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: deserve to win the game. I have another team that
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I cover in LA where I've heard the very similar
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: way of saying things like that, And so I don't
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: look at Giannis being a guy who gets traded in
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: the matter of days like this is something where you know, January,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: it's going to change lives in the NBA. So how
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: well the Bucks play is going to have a big
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: impact on the viability of Giannis staying there. But also
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's not up to Giannis all the time. It's not
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: even up to the Bucks. Like the Bucks can say
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: they're open to something, but if the appropriate deal isn't there,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: then that's it. You have a bunch of these editors
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and visital you know, companies who covered a sport of basketball,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: and they're giving you a tap dozen trades they'd like
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: to see. They'd like to see him because they want
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: to be GM's. Like, the reality is John Horst has
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: his job, and his job isn't to trade Giannis. His
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: job is to find way to have the Bucks be
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: good and we'll see how January goes in that endeavor.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Well, one of the teams that people have talked about
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: trying to make a move for you, honest, would be
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in Atlanta and they got a guy in Trey Young. Well,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think would be included in that trade package.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what Milwaukee would want that for. But
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: it seems like trace days are numbers in the atl
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Do you see it like that? Obviously there's a contract
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: decision coming up.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what And Adam, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: really appreciate you let me do this while I take
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: my busser ride home from me good Like. I feel
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: like when it comes to someone like Trey, he din
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: had some situation because hardn't played well, he hasn't played well,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been available. This team has arguably been better
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: without him, even though this team is not good enough, Dude,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: just say hey, we don't play trade may be good,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: and I think that's a scary thing for the Hons.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: It's definitely unsettling for Tree Young. I think the best
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: thing about very Young is the fact that he had
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: in the player ups, so he doesn't get traded, or
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: he gets traded to some place he doesn't like. He
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: controls at least a year of his teacher in terms
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: of that. But I think the most simple thing with
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Tray is more teams would want him if he was
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: still playing at the level that he should be in
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: terms of the days of his career that he did.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: And that's just not happening. He's he's always been a
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: guy who is shooting is more dangerous because of his range,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: not necessarily because of his efficiency. He's small, so you're
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: never going to be good defensively with him on the floor.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: And now that float that such a weapon for him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: He's not beating guys, he's not scoring like you shoot,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: and all these things make it to where he's a
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: lot closer to the average point guard. If he ran
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: up all the storry point guards at him. There's story
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: our closed to average is very young. Instead of a
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: guy who you know gets into the All Star Game
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: or someone gets hurt.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not high on my list anymore. A lot
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: of the advanced numbers say he's getting worse with his
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: efficiency too, right.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And and that's and that's the thing It's like very
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: young BA balions Ray has always been some guy who
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: can three eight offense for himself, for his teammates, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: as the shooting of efficiency has been fined from everywhere
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: and the turnovers zone necessarily get better, and now he's
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: a guy there's Atlanta have so many other guys who
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: can play with small in their games and three offense
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: well at leasts Stray kind of in a weird spot,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and Flint snyders of uh, there's other guys. They don't
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: necessarily need him to go. But if he's going to
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: go forward, you got the balls. He's not versatile fires
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and seems have to acknowledged that it may be so
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: excited for a very young string. Why aren't you giving
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: up to get your young on your team and then
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: say that your team is better. That is very difficult
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: watching the configure right now.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, the show is better when La Murray is on
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: at La Murray v NU covers the NBA for the
• 29:14
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• 29:19
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• 29:23
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• 29:26
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• 29:28
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• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I'm at a Mosland in for Big Ben Malor, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: you might know I also work for the Clippers. You
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: might know I love the NBA and on nights like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: this where Kawhi Leonard goes for forty five and has
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: twenty points in the fourth quarter, and while he's thirty
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: four years of age, he's had three forty point games
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: in the last ten days. He's on a crazy heater
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: like we've never seen before. I gotta talk some NBA
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: with you, guys, and I even have a Draymond Green
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: story for next hour we'll get into because I'm getting
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: sick of him. But I'm sick of all the changes
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: they continue to make to try to fix problems, imaginary
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: ones that don't actually exist. Evening Commission, I'm looking at you,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Adam Silver. The NBA is once again trying to curb tanking.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: There's too many teams losing now to be fair that
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Utah Jazz tonight. I mean they were playing third stringers
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: and G League guys, and who am I thinking of?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Lloyd Markinen was out, everybody was out. Ace Bailey was out,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Keyantay George was out. If this was Charles Barklay being
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: asked in that game they play who you play for?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: They could do that with me and I can go
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: pretty deep with NBA rosters and even I don't know
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: who some of those guys were tonight for the Utah Jazz,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and this whole story of tanking kind of centers around them.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: The reasoning by the NBA is, well, the Utah Jazz
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: got fined multiple times, I think last season for tanking
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and they eventually got Ace Bailey out of it. They
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: had guys sitting out games that were not technically hurt
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: or they couldn't I don't know, verify it with independent doctors.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: John Collins miss half the season marketing it, missing a
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: ton of games, and they got fined. Danny Aingel's son
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: is the GM there. He's the president of basketball operations.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: They were up to some funny business. They wanted to lose.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: They wanted to try to get a top pick in
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the draft, and they're not the only team to do this.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: But the problem is they already made changes to the
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: draft lottery odds. This probably goes back five years now
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: where they flattened out the odds of the top where
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: there was a time where if you were the worst
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: team in the NBA, you had like a twenty five
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: percent chance of having the number one overall pick. The
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: odds the odds were pretty good. Now they've flattened them
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: out a little bit where if you finish top three,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: you each have a seventeen percent chance. They're trying to
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: take away the incentive of tanking. They don't want teams
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: at the end of the season trying to lose, like
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: it's that episode of South Park with the Little League
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Baseball going on. But here's the problem. What's happened is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: some of the worst teams aren't getting top draft picks.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: For instance, last season, instead of it being the Washington
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Wizards or the Brooklyn Nets or the Utah Jazz, instead
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: of them owning the top picks, they went to San Antonio,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: they went to down Dallas, and people were thinking there's
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: some conspiracy theory. The NBA was helping out Nico Harrison,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: who's now fired because he got Luka Doncic to a
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: big market with the Lakers, so they gave him the
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: number one pick. Yeah, I don't think that was the case,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you know how I know that he got fired anyways,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was in on anything with the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: commissioner with the NBA where he put his reputation on
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the line like that, because he'll forever be known as
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest dumbasses ever. I'm sorry, but it's true.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Nico Harrison, like you dumb ass what he did with
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, that should have been a fine. Well, the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: NBA is finding teams for tanking. That's one of those
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: trades that you can never live down. But because teams
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that were better and weren't tanking ended up with top picks,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: and you get Cooper Flag going to a team in
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Dallas that actually, if they could ever get healthy, they're
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: decently set up. Kyrie Irving I think might be back
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: in the next month off the ACL. We'll see. It
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: could depend on how they play moving forward and if
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: they're competitive enough. Anthony Davis, Yeah, he's he's hurt a lot.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Some probably call him what's that name they called mister Glass,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: But they're good when he's available. Why are they getting
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the top pick? These other teams that were much worse,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: that had better odds didn't get top picks. They didn't
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: get that generational player. They didn't get Dylan Harper like
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: san Antonio did. San Antonio has had top picks the
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: last three years, Wemby, Stefan Castle, Dylan Harper, and now
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: look at him. They beat OKC three times in twelve days.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: They look like their next or they're now. But all
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: these other teams that we're losing intentionally into institutional tanking.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean players out there on the court aren't playing hard.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: You just don't put the best players out there, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: that's how you get away with it. But what it
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: does is the undesired effect by the commissioner is it
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: makes these teams go, well, we didn't get a top
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: pick this time, we'll get back in the draft lottery
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: again and have another year of trusting the process and
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: tanking because we thought we were going to get a
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: top pick. Oh, we didn't get it, so I guess
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: we'll tak again. That's what happens. That's what's happening with
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Brooklyn even though they've been winning lately. That's what's happening
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: with the Washington Wizards. Those teams didn't end up getting
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the picks. They thought they were going to get because
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: the NBA already flattened the odds, so they have worse
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: odds of getting them. So it keeps them in take
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: mode and in the same cycle over and over again.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: That's kind of an issue. But the NBA also trying
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: to fix this. It doesn't make sense. There are some
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: teams that just aren't good decision makers. They aren't trying
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: to tank. They just suck because they suck. You can't
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: confuse every team that sucks with tanking. That's not how
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: it works. Like the Charlotte Hornets, they don't suck because
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: they're trying to get a higher draft pick. They suck
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: because Michael Jordan was in charge for years. They didn't
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: draft well enough. And LaMelo ball is a circus at
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: times doing Pete Merovich like stuff out there, and I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: not sure, as people would say, he even knows what
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the score is. Is he winning basketball player or not.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: They have young guys who are learning, like Conkin Nipple,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: like Brandon Miller. They have to take their lumps intentionally tanking.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: That's not what this is. You're trying to solve sports basically,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: is what the NBA is saying. We can't have any
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: bad teams. No, that's sports. That's how it works. Teams
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: make bad decisions, they have to live with it. If
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: you try to fix this imaginary problem and try to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: make every team competitive, you're likely gonna have some effects
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: that you didn't see coming where you create something far worse.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: The whole idea of tanking is an overblown issue, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: teams are starting to learn, like the Wizards and the
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets, who have been playing their worst guys to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: get a higher draft pick, that it doesn't always work
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: out that way since they flattened out the odds. So
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: eventually they might say, well, what's the point of tanking,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: doesn't guarantee you the top pick anyways, let this process
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: play out. They just changed things five years ago. Don't
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: try to change anything again. We don't need to take
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: away teams' abilities to top ten protect picks and all
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: these things. Because here's the deal. The Utah Jazz this season,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a team that was already fined for tanking last year, Well,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: they have a first round pick that is top eight protected.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: It has to finish top eight for them to hold
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: on to that pick, otherwise it goes to the Oklahoma
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: City thunder. That's a problem, so they're incentivized to lose
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to hold on to that pick, and maybe that's some
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: of what we saw tonight with why they played so
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: few guys, legitimate NBA players against the Clippers. The league
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: doesn't like that, especially in early January. They don't want
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: teams tanking this early. And I'm not saying that's necessarily
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: what Utah was doing, but they got busted last season.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: The NBA wants to stop it from happening again, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: they could create something far worse if they're not careful.