Latest / 'Bone Up' / Abaloparatide approved
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to Bone Up, the podcast all
- 0:04about bones, how we make them, why we break them
- 0:07and if we fully understand them. I'm David Armstrong.
- 0:11Hi and I'm Richie Abel and over this series we're
- 0:15going to be exploring osteoporosis, bones, what
- 0:18we know and what we're yet to discover and we
- 0:21hope you will join us on the journey. So for
- 0:24anyone keen to learn more about our infrastructure
- 0:27of calcified collagen, this is bone up hello
- 0:46and welcome to a special mini episode of bone
- 0:58up We had a mini episode last year, Richie, when
- 1:02we were able to talk about a new drug, romacizumab.
- 1:06And like London buses, you don't get a new drug
- 1:09for 10 years and then two come along at once
- 1:12because we're here today to talk about abaloperatide,
- 1:16which has been approved for use in the UK just
- 1:19within the last week. So exciting times in the
- 1:23world of osteoporosis treatments. The whole bone
- 1:28research field just seems to go from strength
- 1:31to strength, and it's resulting in a lot of new
- 1:33treatments for patients. I guess for you listeners
- 1:37at home, the most important question you might
- 1:39want to get the answer to today is, what are
- 1:42the treatment guidelines for Avaloparatide? Well,
- 1:46the UK's National Institute for Clinical Excellence,
- 1:51NICE, have issued a statement just within the
- 1:54last week saying that they... Recommend the baloperitide
- 1:58for patients who are at very high risk of fracture.
- 2:03Postmenopausal women at very high risk of fracture.
- 2:06Very high risk is defined, of course, according
- 2:09to the FRAC score and the NOG guidance as patients
- 2:13who are at least 60 % above the treatment threshold.
- 2:19And in practical terms at the clinic, that's
- 2:21usually patients who've had new vertebral fractures.
- 2:25Because we know from, well, almost all the podcasts
- 2:28we've done in the last few years, that there's
- 2:30a lot of focus now on new vertebral fractures
- 2:32as identifying patients at really high risk who
- 2:35we want to treat as quickly and as early as possible
- 2:38with the strongest possible drug. So that's what
- 2:41we're looking at here. We're looking at a sort
- 2:44of a high end drug for the worst patients, which
- 2:46is great news. If you prescribe a patient then.
- 2:51How will they take the drug and how long will
- 2:53they take it for? Well, this is one of the red
- 2:57list medicines. In other words, you have to come
- 2:59to the hospital to get it and be supervised by
- 3:01a consultant. It's an injectable treatment like
- 3:04many new medicines. You will inject yourself
- 3:07with it once a day for 18 months. If that sounds
- 3:12rather like teriparatide that you inject for
- 3:1524 months and romosuzumab that you inject for
- 3:1712 months, well then it fits very much into the
- 3:20paradigm in that area. And after you've finished
- 3:24the 18 -month treatment, then you will have to
- 3:26switch to one of the other drugs, to one of the
- 3:29anti -resorptive drugs which prevents bone loss.
- 3:33So David, you have a lot of treatments available
- 3:35to you now to discuss and to prescribe to your
- 3:39patients. How do you think Abalaparatide is going
- 3:42to fit into the clinic? Have NICE been able to
- 3:45give any information about the organization and
- 3:49funding etc? No I think that's something that
- 3:52many of us as sort of UK bone experts are talking
- 3:56about and are working on at the moment. And we
- 4:00will need to see just how it fits into the clinic.
- 4:03There's no doubt that there has been a paradigm
- 4:05shift in the last three to five years on how
- 4:07we deal with very high risk patients. And lots
- 4:11of clinics now will have been set up with fast
- 4:13track clinics and clinics just for vertebral
- 4:16fractures to get these patients in and get them
- 4:19seen. So it will no doubt sit alongside teriparatide
- 4:23and rumosuzumab for those groups of patients.
- 4:28It doesn't have to be kept in the fridge. That
- 4:30might offer some advantages to some groups of
- 4:32patients. And as I say, the course lasts for
- 4:3518 months rather than 12 or 24. And that may
- 4:39influence some choice as well. There's some suggestion
- 4:42that you may not get just as high calcium levels
- 4:45in the blood as you get sometimes as a side effect
- 4:47with teriparatide. But apart from those sort
- 4:50of feelers, we're really not just quite certain
- 4:53yet how it will fit in. how it will be funded
- 4:57in different areas. But, you know, that's a nice
- 4:59thing to be able to talk about. It's good fun
- 5:01to be able to talk about how we get a new drug
- 5:03to the patients and how we get funding for it.
- 5:06Much better that than having, you know, having
- 5:09no new drugs available. I sort of mentioned there
- 5:13briefly in passing about drugs that sort of build
- 5:16bone, drugs that remove bone. Just remind us
- 5:19where this sort of drug fits then in that category.
- 5:22Richie, is this a drug that builds bone or a
- 5:24drug that removes bone? A balaparotide is classed
- 5:29as an anabolic agent, which means that it builds
- 5:32bone. The simple explanation is that a balaparotide
- 5:38improves bone mineral density and bone mass by
- 5:43stimulating bone cells. And obviously, if you
- 5:46improve density and mass, a bone is going to
- 5:48be better able to resist a fracture when somebody
- 5:50has a triple fall. complex explanation is that
- 5:58abalaparotide works by mimicking a natural hormone
- 6:02in our bodies. And that's parathyroid hormone.
- 6:06Parathyroid hormone is very important for regulating
- 6:09calcium in our bodies. So you can see straight
- 6:13away how this hormone is going to be important
- 6:14for a disease like osteoporosis, which is fundamentally
- 6:18a loss of calcium and a loss of bone. And basically
- 6:22the medicine will travel to a patient's bone
- 6:25cells bind with receptors on the cell surface,
- 6:29like a docking station. And once a baliparotide
- 6:33docks with a bone cell, it will trigger a set
- 6:36of chemical reactions inside the cell that stimulate
- 6:39its activity. And regular listeners, you'll know
- 6:42that there's two really important types of bone
- 6:45cells, osteoblasts, which form new bone, and
- 6:48osteoclasts, which resorb old and damaged bone.
- 6:52And normally in a healthy adult, the osteoclasts
- 6:55take away the damaged bone, the old bone and
- 6:58the osteoblasts replace it. And in somebody with
- 7:00osteoporosis, there's an imbalance. The osteoclasts
- 7:04take away too much bone and the osteoblasts don't
- 7:07put back enough. Well, abalaparatide resets that
- 7:11imbalance by stimulating the osteoblast cells
- 7:15a lot more than the osteoclast cells. And in
- 7:19their clinical trials, when they tested the drug,
- 7:21They measured biomarkers in the blood to see
- 7:24how big that effect was. What they reported is,
- 7:28is that abaloparatide increases osteoblastic
- 7:31bone formation markers by about 80%, and the
- 7:36bone resorption markers are only increased by
- 7:38about 20%. By improving the formation over the
- 7:42resorption, you get a net gain in bone mineral
- 7:46density and bone mass, which is... essentially
- 7:49what's going to prevent the fractures. That's
- 7:53exciting and I find patients love to hear how
- 7:55drugs actually work because as much as anything
- 7:57it's an incentive to persevere with the drug
- 8:01if you understand how it's working. That of course
- 8:05is okay in the laboratory or at the science level.
- 8:08We have evidence that it actually works of course
- 8:12in humans and that it does increase bone mineral
- 8:15density. and that it does reduce fracture. Isn't
- 8:18that right? If you follow these things, there
- 8:22was a study published, it must be maybe seven,
- 8:25eight years ago now, called the ACTIV study,
- 8:28which specifically compared abaloparatide to
- 8:32patients who weren't getting any drug and also
- 8:35looked at some patients getting teriparatide.
- 8:38Do you want to let us know just the headline
- 8:40findings from that in terms, Richie? Did it work
- 8:44in terms of reducing fractures? So the headline
- 8:47then is that the treatment greatly reduced the
- 8:51chance of a postmenopausal woman with osteoporosis
- 8:55sustaining a fracture. The people recruited into
- 9:00the trial were all women between 49 and 86 years
- 9:03old. They were all defined as being at high risk.
- 9:07Essentially, like you were saying earlier, they
- 9:09had very low bone mineral density and they'd
- 9:12either suffered a fracture or they were over
- 9:1465 years old. And as you say, the drug was compared
- 9:17to a placebo. The study showed that in the balaparotide
- 9:24patients, they increased their bone mineral density
- 9:29by about 12 % in the lumbar vertebrae. and about
- 9:334 % at the hip in comparison to the patients
- 9:37who didn't take any treatment. And this was associated
- 9:41with a really big reduction in the risk of fracture.
- 9:43The patients who took a balaparatide had about
- 9:47an 88 % reduction in the risk of fracture in
- 9:52the vertebrae and about a 69 % reduction in risk
- 9:57of a major osteoporotic fracture. And of course,
- 9:59that includes fractures like hip fractures. which
- 10:03are the ones which really devastate lives and
- 10:06cause a lot of death. Great results from the
- 10:08trial. You need to get back to us then in six
- 10:13months or 12 months to see where this will actually
- 10:16fit into your clinics. Some of the great things
- 10:19that have happened in the last few years in terms
- 10:22of osteoporosis treatment have allowed us to
- 10:24develop these fast -track clinics where we get
- 10:27patients with vertebral fractures in as quickly
- 10:29as possible to get them new drugs. So it's great
- 10:32that we have those sort of clinics and those
- 10:35sort of channels already set up where people
- 10:38are getting teriparatide or romosuzumab or sometimes
- 10:42denosumab. So those are already set up. I'm quite
- 10:45certain abaloparatide will fit into that clinic.
- 10:48Exactly where it fits in yet, I don't think we're
- 10:50absolutely certain. How it will compare with
- 10:53teriparatide or romosuzumab, I don't think we're
- 10:55absolutely certain. But we're certainly excited
- 10:57about this and we're excited to see the benefits
- 11:01that it will offer patients. Brilliant. We better
- 11:04leave it there. Thank you for joining, listeners.
- 11:07Bye -bye. See you in the next episode. Bye now.