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Sharri | 10 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Long shry.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, and make sure you stick around for your
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Speaker 2: horoscope later in the show. No, we're not actually going
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Speaker 2: to do that here now. Last night I spoke to
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Speaker 2: you just into Nampagen per Price, of course, about what's
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Speaker 2: going on in Alice Springs with.
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Speaker 1: The curfew, but also the need to.
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Speaker 2: Look beyond just knee jerk band aid responses to problems
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Speaker 2: in indigenous communities and start doing something to actually stop
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Speaker 2: them at the cause. And today, on the third day
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Speaker 2: of curfew in the troubled town, reports that a major
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Speaker 2: brawl has erupted outside a local supermarket. Police confirmed that
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Speaker 2: they made multiple arrests after the group was seen fighting
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Speaker 2: with various weapons.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is all a bit like a weed.
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Speaker 2: You can rip the top off it and it'll looked
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Speaker 2: like it isn't there. But unless you actually pull out
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Speaker 2: at the roots, take it out roots and all, it's
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Speaker 2: simply going to grow back. That's what will happen in
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Speaker 2: Alice Springs and it's what keeps happening in indigenous communities
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Speaker 2: across the country. This is what Senator Price had to
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Speaker 2: say to me last night.
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Speaker 3: This labor government, the Albanezer government, the territory government want
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Speaker 3: to maintain Aboriginal people on welfare on dependent on governments
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Speaker 3: instead of allowing them to stand on their own two
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Speaker 3: feet and creating real jobs out on communities, not a
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Speaker 3: jobs program, but actually opening up for economic development opportunities
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Speaker 3: in remote communities so that there's not this double standard
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Speaker 3: going on. You know, if life got better out of communities,
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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have the influx of people in our towns, know,
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Speaker 3: using the services well.
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Speaker 2: The Australian Today reported on an essay Senator Price has
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Speaker 2: written for its sixtieth anniversary Collectors Edition magazine, which will
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Speaker 2: be published this Saturday, in which he calls for an
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Speaker 2: advancement movement in Indigenous affairs, whereby Indigenous people who are
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Speaker 2: on welfare would do the jobs in their communities that
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Speaker 2: are currently filled by fly in, fly out workers to
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Speaker 2: quote meet the standards other Australians are expected to meet.
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Speaker 2: She writes in the essay, we can continue along the
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Speaker 2: separatist road that sees Indigenous Australians as irrevocably damaged by
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Speaker 2: settlement and wants to keep Aboriginal culture stuck in time
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Speaker 2: like a museum piece. Traditional culture is romanticized by those
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Speaker 2: who do not live it. While reinvention of culture has
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Speaker 2: become an industry in the name of reconciliation for the
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Speaker 2: purpose of political influence. This separatist way forward leaves negative
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Speaker 2: parts of Indigenous culture alone to grow and fester, things
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Speaker 2: like cultural violent payback, arranged marriage and apportioning tragedies and
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Speaker 2: mishaps to sorcery, all of which are anathema to modern culture.
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Speaker 2: This is a view that lowers standards for Indigenous Australians.
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Speaker 2: This has been the strategy of decades of government agencies
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Speaker 2: and academic activists, and yet they fail to draw the
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Speaker 2: obvious connection between this approach and the failure to make
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Speaker 2: up much ground on closing the gap spot on. This
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Speaker 2: has been the problem with Indigenous affairs policy for decades.
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Speaker 2: No one is willing to do what is right what
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Speaker 2: is difficult, because it's either too hard or it means
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Speaker 2: facing hard truths about what is going on in Indigenous communities.
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Speaker 2: Hard truths like the fact that Aboriginal women are thirty
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Speaker 2: four times more likely to be hospitalized with violence related
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Speaker 2: injuries and six times more likely to die from them.
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Speaker 2: Hard truths like the fact that Indigenous children are eight
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Speaker 2: times more likely to suffer abuse or neglect the non
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Speaker 2: Indigenous children. Hard truths like the fact that the rates
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Speaker 2: of sexual assault reported to police in twenty twelve among
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Speaker 2: Indigenous children age zero to nine in New South Wales, Queensland,
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Speaker 2: South Australia and the Northern Territory were two to four
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Speaker 2: times higher than rates among Nonindigenous children. And yet we
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Speaker 2: keep talking about Australia Day a Native Title and truth
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Speaker 2: and treaty and all these other things that do very
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Speaker 2: little to materially change the lives of Indigenous people for
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Speaker 2: the better. Now. I've used this line before, but the
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Speaker 2: closest many inner city lefties who claim to care about
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Speaker 2: Indigenous issues have actually been to an Indigenous person is
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Speaker 2: when they see them on the footpath from their BMW's.
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Speaker 2: They say they are, but they don't. You know, if
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Speaker 2: they really cared, they'd be talking about these issues, the
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Speaker 2: root issues that lead to violence and disruption in places
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Speaker 2: like Alice Springs and lifelong cycles of welfare. I sometimes
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Speaker 2: feel like I'm shouting into the abyss saying this, but
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Speaker 2: Indigenous affairs needs hard action and tough decisions, not virtue
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Speaker 2: signaling talk. God knows we've had enough of that. We
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Speaker 2: have nothing to show.
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Speaker 4: For it.
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Speaker 1: Now, there's probably been a little bit of.
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Speaker 2: Concern in the New South Wales greyhound racing industry of
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Speaker 2: late that perhaps the bad days were back. Of course,
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Speaker 2: last time the industry found itself in trouble in twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 2: then Liberal Premier Marke Baird tried to.
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Speaker 1: Ban the sport.
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Speaker 5: He said the industry would not be economically viable in
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Speaker 5: the long term, it would still lead to the slaughter
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Speaker 5: of thousands of healthy dogs and lie baiting would likely
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Speaker 5: to continue. Now, when confronted with those facts, the only
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Speaker 5: humane response is to close that industry down and do
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Speaker 5: it in a way that we work with every single
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Speaker 5: stakeholder with order, with respect, and ensuring we minimize the consequences.
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Speaker 2: And well we all know how that went. Three months later,
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Speaker 2: after facing massive political heat, particularly from within in his
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Speaker 2: own coalition, that ban was gone.
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Speaker 5: Now the feedback that I have received, my cabinet colleagues,
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Speaker 5: MPs across government have received from the community is yes,
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Speaker 5: they were horrified by the findings in the Special Commission
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Speaker 5: of Inquiry of what was going on in the industry,
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Speaker 5: but they have also said why did you not give
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Speaker 5: the industry one last chance? That is what they have
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Speaker 5: said consistently again and again. So it's clear in hindsight
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Speaker 5: as we reflect on this, well we got it wrong.
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Speaker 2: He certainly did get it wrong, and then three months
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Speaker 2: after that Bad's premiership was over. It was one of
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Speaker 2: the most extraordinarily moronic, unilateral decisions I've seen a politician make,
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Speaker 2: and ultimately, of course he.
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Speaker 1: Paid the price.
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Speaker 2: So I guess it's no great surprise that Labor New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Premier Chris Mins today ruled out banning greyhound racing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to be.
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Speaker 2: A complete idiot to open that can of worms again. Now,
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Speaker 2: the reason all of this was potentially back on the
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Speaker 2: table is because the governing body's former chief Vet Pender report,
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Speaker 2: which was sent to Greyhound Racing New South Wales in
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Speaker 2: June that claimed rehoming rates had been inflated, dogs were
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Speaker 2: racing too much, causing too many injuries, and that they
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Speaker 2: were left to quote unquote live out their miserable post
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Speaker 2: racing lives in industrial kennels. Now, some of the allegations,
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Speaker 2: including those relating to veterinary care, warranted further investigation. According
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Speaker 2: to a response by Greyhound Welfare and.
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Speaker 1: Integrity Commission g wick As it's called.
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Speaker 2: That was tabled in state parliament yesterday, but it also
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Speaker 2: dismissed others as wrong, including that hundreds of dog deaths
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Speaker 2: had been hidden. That's the Integrity Commission saying that, not
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Speaker 2: the industry itself, and the chief executive of greyhound Racing
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Speaker 2: New South Wales resigned yesterday. Now I know not everyone
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Speaker 2: is that interested in greyhound racing. In fact, the vast
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Speaker 2: majority of people probably aren't. And older Claire, as many
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Speaker 2: viewers would know that I have owned racing greyhounds and
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Speaker 2: I still have one. But you see the issue is
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Speaker 2: that because greyhound racing isn't as popular as horse racing,
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Speaker 2: it makes it an easy target for activists and ultimately
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Speaker 2: an easy sacrificial lamb for state governments to offer up
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Speaker 2: to the animal activists to make them shut up. But
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Speaker 2: they won't shut up. Racing should be as safe as
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Speaker 2: absolutely possible in all its forms, but like anything in life,
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Speaker 2: it does come with risks. Animal welfare should always be paramount.
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Speaker 2: But don't think that if you hand over greyhound racing
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Speaker 2: because well it's pretty small, who really cares that it'll
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Speaker 2: save horse racing from being next.
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Speaker 1: Because it will be next.
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Speaker 2: It's the same reason I argued so strongly against jumps
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Speaker 2: racing being banned in South Australia because it's a win
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Speaker 2: for animal activists.
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Speaker 1: It just emboldens them.
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Speaker 2: And again I'll declare that I have jumps horses that
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Speaker 2: run in Victoria, because of course that's the only place
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Speaker 2: that still runs jumps races in this country. And speaking
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Speaker 2: of South Australia, they ran an inquiry into greyhound racing
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Speaker 2: last year and appointed an inspector this year. Premier Peter
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Speaker 2: Malinowskis has said that the industry has two years to
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Speaker 2: clean itself up, otherwise it faces the prospect of no
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Speaker 2: longer being able to enjoy the social license and the
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Speaker 2: government support that is required for it to be able
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Speaker 2: to operate. In other words, it could be banned now.
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Speaker 2: Having been involved in the racing industry both horses and dogs,
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Speaker 2: as an owner and a journalist, I can assure you
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Speaker 2: that the vast majority of people adore their animals. That's
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Speaker 2: why they go into racing in the first place. Activist
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Speaker 2: elites don't like racing, and they certainly don't like greyhound
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Speaker 2: racing because it's largely a working class pursuit and the
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Speaker 2: only thing that inner City. Green's voters hate more than
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Speaker 2: hard working people in the suburbs is those people enjoying themselves.
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Speaker 1: But believe me, if.
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Speaker 2: Greyhound racing is sacrificed at the altar of animal activism,
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Speaker 2: more dominoes will fall. Also tonight, a second group of
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Speaker 2: both people intercepted at our border this week and sent
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Speaker 2: back home. Plus the Sydney River has become the latest
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Speaker 2: target in the left pursuit to rewrite history. And the
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Speaker 2: Australian Defense Force gets a new chief, but will he
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Speaker 2: be able to reshape our work adf Well. It's been
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Speaker 2: revealed by the Daily Telegraph that under this Labor government,
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Speaker 2: more than two three hundred asylum seekers flew into Australia
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Speaker 2: in May. Now that's the highest monthly number since Albanizi
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Speaker 2: took office two years ago. The majority of arrivals have
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Speaker 2: been from China, followed by Vietnam, Columbia and India, and
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Speaker 2: then from Palestine. One hundred and nineteen people have applied
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Speaker 2: for protection visas from there. Let's bring in our panel
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Speaker 2: to discuss former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and
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Speaker 2: former Labor Senator Graham Richardson Graham, the numbers are as
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Speaker 2: high as they've been in two years. My assumption, I
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Speaker 2: don't know what yours is, but my assumption is that
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Speaker 2: after n Z YQ and all the other things that
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Speaker 2: have happened, you've had boats that have reached the shore.
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Speaker 2: We've always known that the vast majority of a salem
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Speaker 2: seekers come by plane, but they've looked at us now
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Speaker 2: and gone, gee, Australia is a soft touch.
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Speaker 1: Let's give it a go. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I think you know.
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Speaker 7: It's a sort of case of bring back Scott Morrison,
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Speaker 7: who can at least lay claim to having stopped the
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Speaker 7: boats because he did. Look, I don't think there's any
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Speaker 7: nice way to handle this, and I don't believe that
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Speaker 7: we should give any support to cure jumpers, no support whatsoever.
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Speaker 7: So as far as I'm concerned, you can be as
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Speaker 7: tough as you like. I don't think we should sink
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Speaker 7: the motes, but I certainly think we should stop them.
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Speaker 2: Well, Michael, of the eighty thousand rejected asylum seekers in
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Speaker 2: Australia eighty thousand, only eleven have actually left the country.
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Speaker 1: Eleven.
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Speaker 8: Mate, it seems like there'll be a while before the
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Speaker 8: eighty thousand are leaving. Look, here's the problem. There are
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Speaker 8: more than fifty million people worldwide the uns AT a
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Speaker 8: few years ago who were refugees looking for somewhere else
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Speaker 8: to live. The truth is probably more than a million
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Speaker 8: people would prefer to live somewhere else. They want to live.
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Speaker 8: That's why you know, nine ten eleven million have crossed
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Speaker 8: the southern border into America from Mexico. Because of the
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Speaker 8: tyranny of distance, is harder for people to get here.
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Speaker 8: But if the truth be known, Caleb, there would be
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Speaker 8: millions of people who would like to make their way
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Speaker 8: to Australia. And if they find a way to get
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Speaker 8: here and then can use a legal system which they
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Speaker 8: can to delay their deportation if they fail to win
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Speaker 8: citizenship or asylum, they're going to do it. And as
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Speaker 8: you say, and everybody, every Australian knows, labor a week
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Speaker 8: on these issues. They always have been. And yeah, as
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Speaker 8: Richo said, you know, Abbott and Dudden got it right.
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Speaker 8: And you know, Dan Teene impresses me as a bloke
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Speaker 8: who's got the courage to do something about this. You
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Speaker 8: cannot have an open door policy. It destroys people's confidence
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Speaker 8: in the immigration process.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the strength of the border force
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Speaker 2: has been under question as well. And as I said before,
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Speaker 2: we've actually had boats reached the shore under this government
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Speaker 2: in the last year or so. And we saw a
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Speaker 2: story I think it might have been last week where
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Speaker 2: one boat that was turned back. Well the boat wasn't
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Speaker 2: turned back. They actually took the boat away, destroyed it
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Speaker 2: and gave them a speedboat to go back to Indonesia.
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Speaker 2: You know, here's a gift to go and do more
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Speaker 2: people smuggling.
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Speaker 1: How good can it get? Now?
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Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram's parent company Meta has announced that it
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Speaker 2: will be removing more posts that attack Zionists.
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Speaker 1: But there is a catch.
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Speaker 2: It'll only be done and the term is used to
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Speaker 2: describe Jewish and Israeli people in a general context, not
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Speaker 2: when it involves supporters of Zionism as a political movement. Graham,
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Speaker 2: it feels like they're having a bet each way here.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's too wellb each way for sure. I wouldn't
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Speaker 7: have that kind of restriction. I think the reality is
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Speaker 7: that we've all been called Zionists at times because anyone
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Speaker 7: associated with support with the State of Israel is labeled
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Speaker 7: that way. That's just a fact. Now, Well, I accepted
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Speaker 7: the label a long time ago.
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Speaker 1: So I don't care, Michael. Your response, well.
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Speaker 8: At least it's a start, that's what i'd say. At
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Speaker 8: least it's a start. You know, Big Tech have been
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Speaker 8: incredibly slow on these issues. They've just started, right, They've started,
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Speaker 8: and you know what they need to understand is that
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Speaker 8: the language of the left is to attack, oh, the
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Speaker 8: st of Israel, the Israeli government or Zionists. They never
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Speaker 8: use their taught don't use the word Jews. Don't say
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Speaker 8: we hate Jews, because you'll get into trouble like those
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Speaker 8: people did on October eight in Sydney. So they use
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Speaker 8: these synonyms. Oh, we're just against Zionism, we're against net Yahoo. No,
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Speaker 8: these people basically hate Jews. They are hard left racists.
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Speaker 8: And the sooner Big Tech works that out, the better, mate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The only thing that does consume me a bit about
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Speaker 2: censorship with Facebook is we've seen how they've used it before,
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Speaker 2: and of course when they during the Voice campaign, for instance,
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Speaker 2: we're deciding that stuff that was patently true, including comments
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Speaker 2: by our own creedline, were deemed to be misinformation and
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Speaker 2: disinformation and they wouldn't post it. I do worry a
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Speaker 2: little bit Michael that sometimes, you know, they like to
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Speaker 2: say that they're doing the right thing and this is
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Speaker 2: probably an easy win for them, but sometimes their application
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Speaker 2: of these kind of rules is pretty cluster.
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Speaker 8: Mostly it's like cluster. But there's start. They're starting, mate,
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Speaker 8: they're starting to get to the they can see where
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Speaker 8: the center of rationality is and they're starting to move
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Speaker 8: towards it. It'll take come a long time though.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 2: The New South Wales Premier Chris Mindsey, of course announced
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Speaker 2: today that the retail trade ban on Anzac Day will
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Speaker 2: be extended. So it used to be until one pm.
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Speaker 2: Now it'll go for the entire day as of next year.
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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say earlier.
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Speaker 4: Creeping commercialization of Anzac Day over a prolonged period of
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Speaker 4: time to the detriment of the importance of the day.
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Speaker 4: There's many things that divide up our community in New
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Speaker 4: South Wales and Australia, and the truth of the matter
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Speaker 4: is the nation's national day is Anzac Day.
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Speaker 2: Here here and Grahamipendercolum for News dot com dot Au
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Speaker 2: today about this, basically saying that you know, I hope
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Speaker 2: this might be a moment for some people who've lost
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Speaker 2: connection to Anzac Day. To stop and think because because
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Speaker 2: they can't go shop anymore, to stop and think, hang on,
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Speaker 2: this is a really important day for our nation, and
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Speaker 2: to take stock of why it's an important day for
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Speaker 2: our nation because we are now closer to global conflict
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Speaker 2: than we have been in a long time, and that
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Speaker 2: makes Anzac Day more important than it has ever been.
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Speaker 7: It does.
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Speaker 9: See.
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Speaker 7: I think that the distinction is that Australia Day is
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Speaker 7: a holiday, whereas Anzac Day is a holiday that means something,
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Speaker 7: that has something behind it. There's a raison deetra for
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Speaker 7: Anzac Day that I think we can all stand up
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Speaker 7: and salute. And so I'm a great fan of Anzac Day.
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Speaker 7: Always will be Australia Day. I never mind another day.
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Speaker 2: Off, Well, who doesn't mind another day on? But this
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Speaker 2: ought to go national?
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Speaker 8: Markele, Well it should And look can I say this
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Speaker 8: about this fellow Chris Mins. He seems to understand what
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Speaker 8: most politicians don't. Most politicians think, I've got to spend
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Speaker 8: more money on health than the next person, more money
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Speaker 8: in education. I'm going to build bigger roads, I've got
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Speaker 8: to have more bridges, et cetera. Center spending the public's
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Speaker 8: money and expect them to be grateful for spending their
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Speaker 8: hard earned taxes. This guy Mins seems to understand that
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Speaker 8: the success, the key to a successful politician is for
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Speaker 8: the electric to think he thinks what I think.
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Speaker 1: Yes, his values, his views.
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Speaker 8: In other words, its culture. It's why the left hate
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Speaker 8: culture wars, keep saying everything the culture war because they
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Speaker 8: don't want to talk about culture because they know the
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Speaker 8: moral massive working middle class heavily influenced by these cultural issues,
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Speaker 8: like the disgraceful voice trying to divide the country by race.
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Speaker 8: So Men's comes along and he taps into a very
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Speaker 8: important element of the Australian psyche, which is that many
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Speaker 8: Australians alive today, or our parents or our grandp parents
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Speaker 8: have fought for democracy and liberty which doesn't come for free.
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Speaker 8: And Mince taps into this and says, I'm not afraid
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Speaker 8: to say what he has said today. This will build
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Speaker 8: him an enormous cultural support base in the electorate which
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Speaker 8: is traditionally this area is traditionally, as we know, not
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Speaker 8: Labour's are and not their strength. This is an outstanding
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Speaker 8: cultural move by this fellow and it will endear him
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Speaker 8: to so many people in New South Wales and around
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Speaker 8: the country who understand that Anzac Day is probably the
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Speaker 8: most important day in the Australian calendar. Mate.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, now, very quickly before we move on. Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: returned to the campaign trail today. He challenged President Biden
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Speaker 2: to another debate at his Florida rally.
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Speaker 10: Let's do another debate this week so that sleepy job
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Speaker 10: Biden can prove to everyone all over the world that
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Speaker 10: he has what.
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Speaker 1: It takes to be president. That wasn't the only thing
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Speaker 1: he challenged him to.
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Speaker 2: The former president has sit his sites on a game
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Speaker 2: on the golf course.
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Speaker 10: In the debate, Slippy Joe also declared that he wanted
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Speaker 10: to test his skills and stamina against mine on the
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Speaker 10: golf course. Can you believe this? I'm also officially challenging
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Speaker 10: Crooked Joe to an eighteen hole golf match right here.
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Speaker 1: Ah, how good.
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Speaker 2: We've only got thirty seconds, Michael. But Trump says will
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Speaker 2: give a million dollars to charity of Biden's choice if
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Speaker 2: he can win.
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Speaker 8: He won't need to because Biden wanting stick. If Biden's
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Speaker 8: a six handicapper made, I'm Bryson de Chamba.
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Speaker 2: Seriously, Graham Richardson, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 1: Now. I don't know about you, but this constant.
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Speaker 2: Push to reduce speed limits is really getting on my nerves.
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Speaker 2: Cars are safer than they have ever been, so surely
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Speaker 2: we should actually be able to drive faster than we
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Speaker 2: ever have, or at the very least we can have
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Speaker 2: the same speeds.
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Speaker 1: But we have knut councils.
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Speaker 2: They keep trying to impose a ghostlow and the latest
21:12
Speaker 2: is Sydney City Council, which has decided that fifty kilometer
21:16
Speaker 2: in our streets across much of its area will be
21:18
Speaker 2: cut to forty kilometers an hour. And of course they
21:21
Speaker 2: say it's just about making everything safer, particularly for pedestrians.
21:25
Speaker 2: But something tells me it's all an effort to discourage
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Speaker 2: people from using their cars. Joining me now as founder
21:32
Speaker 2: of car Expert Paul marriage Paul am I right, is
21:36
Speaker 2: this all just an effort to stop people from using
21:39
Speaker 2: their cars and I don't know, make them get on
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Speaker 2: bikes instead.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely, And that is what's happening in Melbourne at the moment.
21:46
Speaker 11: They have put bike lanes everywhere. There is gridlock all
21:50
Speaker 11: around Melbourne. They do not want you driving your car
21:53
Speaker 11: in and around the city, and they portray it as
21:55
Speaker 11: pedestrian safety, but ultimately, when are we actually going to
21:58
Speaker 11: put it onto a pedestrian to watch where they're going,
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Speaker 11: because there's no risk of getting hit by a car
22:03
Speaker 11: if you're actually watching where you're going.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a very fair point.
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Speaker 2: But in forty kilometers an hour. Seriously, I'm not much
22:10
Speaker 2: of a runner, but I could. Well, you know, maybe
22:13
Speaker 2: if I was you, Saint Bolt, I could run.
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Speaker 1: That bakes to it. But you know, at some.
22:16
Speaker 2: Points you feel like maybe I should just get out
22:19
Speaker 2: of my car and walk, and of course that's what
22:21
Speaker 2: they want you to do. The reality is that Australia
22:26
Speaker 2: is a car nation because it's a big nation and
22:29
Speaker 2: it has urban sprawl. Now I'm not sure if it's
22:31
Speaker 2: still the case, but Adelaide used to be, per capita,
22:35
Speaker 2: one of the biggest.
22:36
Speaker 1: Urban sprawls in the world.
22:39
Speaker 2: We know how big Melbourne and Sydney are in terms
22:42
Speaker 2: of their urban sprawls. People need a car to get around.
22:45
Speaker 2: It's just the reality of life in a country like Australia.
22:49
Speaker 2: And instead of acknowledging that, governments and councils keep putting
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Speaker 2: the speed limit down and punishing you because you dare
22:57
Speaker 2: to live out in the suburbs but work in the
22:59
Speaker 2: city and have to go through these suburbs that are
23:02
Speaker 2: included in some we like the city of Sydney.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 11: And I mean you look at the cost of living pressures.
23:09
Speaker 11: A lot of people have to travel longer distances to
23:12
Speaker 11: get into the city and that'll mean catching countless changes
23:16
Speaker 11: on public transport. And people don't even want to be
23:19
Speaker 11: on public transport at the moment, so driving is the
23:21
Speaker 11: only option, and they just make it harder and harder
23:23
Speaker 11: and more and more expensive to operate a vehicle to
23:26
Speaker 11: the point where you have no choice but to hand
23:29
Speaker 11: your vehicle in and this sort of guys of pedestrian safety. Ultimately,
23:33
Speaker 11: we just need to call it for what it is,
23:36
Speaker 11: and that is having less vehicles in the city. And
23:38
Speaker 11: if that's what it is, just say it that way.
23:40
Speaker 11: We don't need to just keep putting pressure on drivers.
23:42
Speaker 11: But already have enough pressure as it is at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, so what about the alternative, which of course is cycling.
23:48
Speaker 2: They want you to get on your bike and ride
23:50
Speaker 2: into work. And as you said before, Melbourne's put in
23:52
Speaker 2: all these bike lanes, there's all these bike lanes they
23:55
Speaker 2: have here in Sydney thanks to the illustrious Lord Mayor
23:58
Speaker 2: Clover Moore, who seems to be impossible to unseat. Are
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Speaker 2: is anyone actually using these things?
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Speaker 11: Well, they're definitely not in Melbourne and it is so
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Speaker 11: cold out here at the moment.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone.
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Speaker 11: Same person if you're riding a bicycle, But you have
24:14
Speaker 11: to think of the logic of a bicycle. A bicycle
24:16
Speaker 11: is fine if you don't really need to be doing
24:18
Speaker 11: anything at the end of your journey, but if you
24:20
Speaker 11: need to be carrying things, if you're buying something, a
24:23
Speaker 11: bicycle is virtually pointless. And to be honest, I don't
24:25
Speaker 11: want to be on a bicycle when there's a distracted driver.
24:28
Speaker 11: And this is the issue they're having with pedestrians. If
24:30
Speaker 11: you have a distracted driver and you get cleaned up
24:32
Speaker 11: on a bicycle, it is going to hurt. It is
24:35
Speaker 11: the last place I'd want to be.
24:36
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure, and I don't know whether there's
24:38
Speaker 2: data to bear this out. I'm not sure that making
24:41
Speaker 2: people drive slower actually makes the roads any safer, because
24:44
Speaker 2: of course they say that, Well, it means if you
24:46
Speaker 2: have a crash you as the driver, will be safer
24:49
Speaker 2: because it will be lower impact and whatever else. But
24:52
Speaker 2: I would have thought that it would just make drivers
24:54
Speaker 2: more frustrated, which makes them more likely to do silly
24:58
Speaker 2: things that they otherwise wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: On the road.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely correct, and that's the thing. You can reduce the
25:05
Speaker 11: speed limit to the point where you're doing two kilometers
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Speaker 11: an hour, then it's safe for everyone, but then no
25:10
Speaker 11: one gets anywhere and you end up with very frustrated drivers.
25:13
Speaker 11: So ultimately, you need accountability for drivers to watch what
25:16
Speaker 11: they're doing. You need accountability for pedestrians to watch what
25:19
Speaker 11: they're doing, and then you would have no reason why
25:21
Speaker 11: the two would ever need to interact. But ultimately that
25:24
Speaker 11: is very hard to clamp down on, very hard to
25:26
Speaker 11: educate people on, and they're just taking the easy approach
25:29
Speaker 11: that they also earn money off on speed cameras as well,
25:32
Speaker 11: so it is just a cyclical thing for the government.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
25:36
Speaker 2: Well, look, I think you should be able to drive
25:37
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty everywhere and have open speed limits
25:40
Speaker 2: on the highways. But you know I'm never going to
25:42
Speaker 2: get that, am I Poor marriage. Thank you so much
25:44
Speaker 2: for your time. Well, coming up the Sydney River has
25:46
Speaker 2: become the latest victim in the Leafs pursuit to rewrite history. Plus,
25:50
Speaker 2: the Australian Defense Force has a new chief.
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Speaker 1: What's he going to do? We'll discuss that after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back Caleb bond In for Shari this week. Well,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four has been the year of the left
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Speaker 2: attempting to rewrite history. First it was the Health Department's
26:09
Speaker 2: work move to rename it Serious Building because the name
26:12
Speaker 2: was apparently associated with the first Fleet. Then there was
26:16
Speaker 2: a push to rename Latrobe University because of its namesakes,
26:20
Speaker 2: links to Victoria's colonial history and quote genocidal violence. And
26:25
Speaker 2: today we learned have yet another idiotic proposal to rename
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Speaker 2: an Australian landmark, Sydney's Cooks River.
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Speaker 1: It's the latest victim.
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Speaker 2: Now the Government backed Cook's River Alliance is unhappy with
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Speaker 2: the name's connection to obviously Captain Cook and has proposed
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Speaker 2: that it be changed to its traditional indigenous name. Let's
26:45
Speaker 2: bring in our panel to discuss this and more. Joining
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Speaker 2: me now is Liberal MP Keith Wallahan and Sky News
26:51
Speaker 2: contributor Roco Lecano. Keith, I don't know how many times
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Speaker 2: I have to say this right, And every time they
26:58
Speaker 2: go after these activists go after a statue of Captain Cook,
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Speaker 2: I always bring up the fact that he was dead
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Speaker 2: nine years before the first fleet rocked up in this country.
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Speaker 2: Why do they always get so upset about Captain Cook?
27:16
Speaker 2: He was a navigator and explorer. He wasn't involved in
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Speaker 2: the colonization of Australia, for heaven's sake.
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Speaker 12: You're absolutely right. And when you think about the man
27:29
Speaker 12: that was Captain Cook, there was so much to admire
27:31
Speaker 12: about him. He was someone who appreciated art and science
27:36
Speaker 12: and was fascinated by nature and it was an explorer.
27:39
Speaker 12: So there's a lot to admire about him. But in
27:42
Speaker 12: terms of renaming landmarks and rivers, there is an enormous
27:46
Speaker 12: amount of cost and confusion, and the onus is on
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Speaker 12: those who want to seek a change. There must be
27:53
Speaker 12: a really compelling reason, and there must also be widespread
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Speaker 12: community support for that to occur, and from what I've
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Speaker 12: read about this proposal, those conditions are just not there.
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Speaker 1: Oh and rock.
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Speaker 2: It goes back to what I was saying in Ladatorial
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Speaker 2: at the top of the show, which is that we
28:09
Speaker 2: always talk about these things when it comes to indigenous
28:12
Speaker 2: policy that do nothing to improve anyone's life. I mean, oh,
28:17
Speaker 2: you could rename Cook's River to anything you absolutely wanted.
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Speaker 2: Is he going to do anything for a single Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: person in the country.
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Speaker 6: No, No, absolutely not. I mean I don't see. It's
28:28
Speaker 6: like they want to wave a magic wand will change
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Speaker 6: the name of a river or a landmark and all
28:33
Speaker 6: of a sudden, the problems with substance abuse, school truancy
28:37
Speaker 6: and what's going on, and Alice Springs will magically disappear.
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Speaker 6: And you also mentioned Caleb the ignorance of history. I
28:44
Speaker 6: mean Captain Cook as well as what Keith mentioned being
28:48
Speaker 6: an explorer and someone who loved science, he actually preserved
28:51
Speaker 6: a lot of Aboriginal artifacts, spears and the like, which
28:54
Speaker 6: are preserved at Cambridge. So and we wouldn't know what
28:57
Speaker 6: we know about Aboriginal culture and heritage. People at Captain
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Speaker 6: Cook didn't preserve those things.
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Speaker 2: Yep, Captain Cook was a great man and they keep
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Speaker 2: demonising him because these people don't actually understand the history
29:09
Speaker 2: that they claim to be prattling on about. Now, the
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Speaker 2: Australian Defense Force has a new leader. Admiral David Johnston
29:15
Speaker 2: officially stepped up to the role as chief at a
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Speaker 2: ceremony in Canberra today, here is what he had to say.
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Speaker 13: My role is to ensure that the ADF is ready
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Speaker 13: now and into the future, able to protect our nation
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Speaker 13: security through our strategy of denial now Keith.
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Speaker 2: Under the former ada of Chief Angus Campbell, we saw
29:38
Speaker 2: an array of work initiatives. Only recently that the ADF
29:42
Speaker 2: job application forms included. You know, you had to put
29:45
Speaker 2: your pronoun and your sexuality if you were aspiring to
29:49
Speaker 2: be a soldier. Do you expect that any of that
29:51
Speaker 2: is going to change after i'mder sorry, I should say
29:54
Speaker 2: Admiral David Johnston.
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Speaker 12: I listened to his changeover speech and there was some
30:00
Speaker 12: very important parts to it, none more important than his
30:04
Speaker 12: acknowledgment that our greatest are set in the Defense Force
30:07
Speaker 12: are our people. But let's not forget that the full
30:09
Speaker 12: time defense force of about sixty thousand is short five thousand,
30:14
Speaker 12: so for every twelve ADF personnel around the country, there's
30:17
Speaker 12: one missing. And that should be his number one priority
30:21
Speaker 12: is attracting and retaining the best people that we can
30:24
Speaker 12: who are willing to put their hand up to fight
30:27
Speaker 12: and if required, die for us. It is a job
30:29
Speaker 12: like no other. And that's where the Chief of Defense
30:32
Speaker 12: Force should focus his attention on the first day, is
30:36
Speaker 12: making sure that that gap of five thousand is bridged
30:39
Speaker 12: as soon as possible.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the idea of his staff to
30:43
Speaker 2: be perfectly Frank Rockholm in the resources the declining numbers,
30:48
Speaker 2: as Keith has just talked about, it's a hell of
30:51
Speaker 2: a task to bring us back from that. But what
30:55
Speaker 2: sort of change can we actually expect because it has
30:58
Speaker 2: to be cultural in parts, but it also has to
31:01
Speaker 2: be systemic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And as Keith was saying, we need to get
31:08
Speaker 6: people in there actually want to fight and who want
31:10
Speaker 6: to defend this country. And when we have surveys on
31:13
Speaker 6: at the moment, which I think there was a survey
31:15
Speaker 6: out last year by the IPA that less than fifty
31:18
Speaker 6: percent of Australians would have been prepared to lay down
31:20
Speaker 6: the life for their country in the event of a war,
31:23
Speaker 6: there's a big job to be done and that he's
31:26
Speaker 6: got a lot of work to do if he wants
31:28
Speaker 6: to recruit the people who we need because we're heading
31:31
Speaker 6: into very dangerous waters. I mean, with China getting more
31:33
Speaker 6: belligerent by the day, this is the critical time. This
31:37
Speaker 6: is a critical time for a change over the head
31:39
Speaker 6: of defense.
31:40
Speaker 2: Force certainly is now just Cindra Allen's governments in Victoria
31:44
Speaker 2: is planning to fast track a trial that would involve
31:47
Speaker 2: ankle bracelets being slapped on some of the states.
31:49
Speaker 1: Worth youth offenders.
31:51
Speaker 2: The Queenslide opposition leader David Chris Fooley had already unveiled
31:55
Speaker 2: a policy much the same that would have underage offenders
31:58
Speaker 2: tried as adults in Queensland for serious crimes. I mean
32:03
Speaker 2: something has to be done, Keith. And I know that
32:07
Speaker 2: putting an ankle bracelet on someone probably doesn't stop crime necessarily,
32:12
Speaker 2: but at least it's something.
32:16
Speaker 12: Well, it's treating the symptoms and not the cause. Labor
32:19
Speaker 12: weakened here in Victoria the bail laws in March and
32:22
Speaker 12: since then we have seen an explosion in youth crime.
32:25
Speaker 12: So ankle bracelets aren't going to cut it. They need
32:28
Speaker 12: to restrengthen the bail laws. But they're reluctant to do
32:31
Speaker 12: that because it's an admission of failure. So they're more
32:34
Speaker 12: worried about the political optics rather than keeping Victorian safe.
32:39
Speaker 12: And can I say that as a Victorian. I'm a
32:41
Speaker 12: federal member, and this is largely a state issue. My
32:44
Speaker 12: office is constantly receiving feedback and emails and calls from
32:48
Speaker 12: people who have had break ins on their street or
32:51
Speaker 12: their neighbor have been broken into, mostly by young offenders
32:54
Speaker 12: who feel like there are no consequences for them. So
32:57
Speaker 12: this is on labor and they need to be held
32:59
Speaker 12: to account for it.
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Speaker 2: The thing I've never understood, Roco, is that it's very
33:03
Speaker 2: rare for a government to lose an election on a
33:07
Speaker 2: tough on crime agenda.
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Speaker 1: Why haven't we seen more of it?
33:13
Speaker 6: Look, there is that's right culor the responsibilities of a
33:16
Speaker 6: state government for law and order, schools, hospitals and infrastructure,
33:21
Speaker 6: and if you look at Victoria, they're failing on all four.
33:24
Speaker 6: And obviously there have been polls coming out which suggests
33:29
Speaker 6: that the government needs to crack down, which is very
33:32
Speaker 6: interesting considering that not all that long ago, injecting rooms
33:35
Speaker 6: near schools were seen as a as an option for
33:37
Speaker 6: reducing crime. So you have to wonder where this this
33:40
Speaker 6: government's priorities lie.
33:42
Speaker 2: And just very quickly to France, you know we've got
33:44
Speaker 2: months of gridlock lying ahead after no party captured a
33:48
Speaker 2: majority in their chaotic election where we obviously saw an
33:51
Speaker 2: unexpected surge for the left in their second round of voting. Keith,
33:56
Speaker 2: how do you expect things are going to unfold?
33:59
Speaker 12: It's too to tell. But what we do see from
34:02
Speaker 12: the results in France is that there has been a
34:05
Speaker 12: shift from anti semitism largely on the right, to now
34:09
Speaker 12: anti semitism on the left. It exists on both spectrums
34:13
Speaker 12: of politics, but we're seen it more and more in
34:16
Speaker 12: the left. And I was disturbed to hear some of
34:18
Speaker 12: the comments by some of the candidates are now members
34:21
Speaker 12: in the French Parliament, even legitimizing the attack on the
34:25
Speaker 12: seventh of October, and that is really quite worrying for
34:29
Speaker 12: people of Jewish faith in France and Rocco.
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Speaker 2: You've written about exactly this point, haven't you.
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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, Keith, you alluded to some of those quotes.
34:40
Speaker 6: I mean, I can read some of them. You know.
34:44
Speaker 6: One was from Mellan Sean, who's the trotsky I head
34:47
Speaker 6: of Franz Sanmbaudi said that Jews trained dogs to rpe
34:51
Speaker 6: Palestinian women. I mean, these are the kind of comments
34:54
Speaker 6: that are being made, and we also have to look
34:57
Speaker 6: the president of Emanuel Macron with his vanity projec that his
35:00
Speaker 6: presidency has become. I mean he has to he has
35:03
Speaker 6: to share some of the blame for this. I mean
35:05
Speaker 6: he tried to demonize the le Penn's hard right and
35:11
Speaker 6: all he's ended up doing is is empowering extremists on
35:14
Speaker 6: the left.
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Speaker 1: And we've got gridlock.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Keith Wallahan, Roco Leocano, thank you so much
35:19
Speaker 2: for your time. Well coming up, World leaders are in Washington,
35:22
Speaker 2: d C. For NATO's annual summit. We'll get the latest
35:25
Speaker 2: plus a second group of both people intersept that at
35:28
Speaker 2: our border this week and sent back home. Don't go away. Well.
35:36
Speaker 2: Leaders from all around the world are in Washington, d
35:38
Speaker 2: C right now for NATO's annual summit, where the Ukraine
35:42
Speaker 2: War is of course at the center of discussions and
35:45
Speaker 2: Defense Minister Richard Marles is set to announce a new
35:47
Speaker 2: aid package for Ukraine, whilst US President Joe Barden has
35:51
Speaker 2: committed to providing Ukraine with five new strategic air defense
35:55
Speaker 2: systems to bolster their fart against Vladimir Putin. Here's what
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Speaker 2: he had to say.
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Speaker 14: The United States, Germany, the Netherlands, Romania and Italy will
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Speaker 14: provide Ukraine with the equipment for five additional strategic defenses.
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Speaker 14: To make no mistake, Ukraine can and will stop.
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Speaker 2: Putin's a bit shaky, but it's amazing what he can
36:19
Speaker 2: do with a teleprompter. Joining me now is Strategic Analysis
36:23
Speaker 2: Australia director and Sky News contributor Michael Schubridge. Michael, what
36:28
Speaker 2: do you make of the developments, particularly in relation to
36:32
Speaker 2: Ukraine in terms of this aid. It's a hell of
36:35
Speaker 2: a lot of aid that has been provided to Ukraine
36:37
Speaker 2: so far, there's more to come.
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Speaker 1: Where does it end?
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it ends with Putin failing to meet
36:45
Speaker 9: his war objectives, which is dismembering Ukraine and toppling the government.
36:51
Speaker 9: So it is good to see some positive news out
36:54
Speaker 9: of this Washington NATO summit that has extra patriot missile
36:58
Speaker 9: defense systems and some shorter range ones as well. Obviously,
37:02
Speaker 9: the Russian missile strike on Ukraine's largest children's hospital shows
37:07
Speaker 9: this is essential for the civilians as well as the
37:09
Speaker 9: Ukrainian military. But I think a bigger issue on every
37:13
Speaker 9: other leader's mind at that NATO meeting is when Biden
37:17
Speaker 9: projects certainty and strength in the US contribution. It's hard
37:22
Speaker 9: for them to even see certainty in him staying the
37:25
Speaker 9: Democrat residential candidate over the next few months.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, and of course there's no talk anymore, certainly not
37:34
Speaker 2: in the short term the Ukraine will itself join NATO.
37:39
Speaker 2: That has been rejected at this point in time. So
37:42
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how these things develop. What
37:44
Speaker 2: else are we expecting to come out of this summer.
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm prepared to be underwhelmed yet again by the
37:51
Speaker 9: Australian contribution to Ukraine. Now, the rumored package is three
37:56
Speaker 9: large three D printers for printing spares. That's handy, But
38:00
Speaker 9: the Australian Army is retiring its M one Abrams tanks
38:03
Speaker 9: because it's getting the new model it could give them
38:06
Speaker 9: and a training package to Ukraine. And it's doing the
38:09
Speaker 9: same with attack helicopters that are European. But remember the
38:13
Speaker 9: last helicopters the Australian military retired, the defense bureaucrats cut
38:17
Speaker 9: up and bury it. So I would love to see
38:20
Speaker 9: Richard Miles do the right thing by Ukraine, but I
38:23
Speaker 9: doubt we'll see that. The other thing I think we're
38:26
Speaker 9: seeing is President Duda of Poland is saying the sensible
38:29
Speaker 9: thing NATO members shouldn't be clapping themselves on the back
38:33
Speaker 9: for a lot of them meeting two percent of GDP
38:36
Speaker 9: on defense. They need to be spending three percent. And
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Speaker 9: I think Richard Miles should bring that message back home here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he certainly should, but whether he does is another
38:47
Speaker 2: matter entirely.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Now, while we're talking of the Albanezy government, I was
38:51
Speaker 2: talking before about national borders and the way things are going.
38:55
Speaker 2: And you know, in just one week a second group
38:59
Speaker 2: of boat people have been intercepted by authorities and sent
39:03
Speaker 2: back to Indonesia. I mean, it seems pretty clear that
39:06
Speaker 2: people smugglers are starting to change their tactics.
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Speaker 1: They think that we are a soft touch.
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Speaker 2: That's the message that they received from the High Court
39:16
Speaker 2: decision and boats being able to hit land, which they
39:20
Speaker 2: did last year. The Albanezy government doesn't seem to have
39:23
Speaker 2: really updated the twenty thirteen sovereign Borders program for the
39:27
Speaker 2: modern world.
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Speaker 9: Yes, you can see that rising pressure. And I don't know,
39:33
Speaker 9: I'm a little bit skeptical about this policy that the
39:36
Speaker 9: government has of when a legal boat rivals turn up,
39:40
Speaker 9: if their boats aren't any good, we give them new ones.
39:42
Speaker 11: See.
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Speaker 9: I kind of think they could drive a whole different
39:46
Speaker 9: kind of influx of people looking for new boats free
39:48
Speaker 9: as a free gift from the Australian government. And the
39:51
Speaker 9: other concern I have you mentioned the new Chief of
39:54
Speaker 9: Defense for is having to deal with that collapsing recruitment problem. Well,
39:58
Speaker 9: the nave's having trouble putting it ships and boats. To see,
40:01
Speaker 9: that's going to create porous borders for us. So David Johnstone,
40:05
Speaker 9: that new chief, he needs to show that he's not
40:08
Speaker 9: just going to do what he's done for the last
40:10
Speaker 9: six years as Vice Chief, and he needs to address
40:13
Speaker 9: some of the challengers that have been staring him in
40:15
Speaker 9: the face in his previous job.
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Speaker 1: Quite right.
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Speaker 2: Another story I mentioned earlier in the show, but remaining
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Speaker 2: on the border theme, was that the Daily Telegraph had
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Speaker 2: revealed today that under the current government, in the month
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Speaker 2: of May you had twenty three hundred asylum seekers that
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Speaker 2: flew into Australia by plane, which is the highest month
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Speaker 2: on record since the government came to power. Again, it
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Speaker 2: just seems like we have sent a message to the
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Speaker 2: world that we're open for business and our borders a
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Speaker 2: porous and so many of these people who fly in
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Speaker 2: and claim asylum turn out not to be asylum seekers,
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Speaker 2: but very few of them get sent home.
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Speaker 9: Well, I remember a Christie Kennearly when she was a
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Speaker 9: Labor Senator, being deeply critical of the then government for
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Speaker 9: dropping the ball on illegal arrivals by air. But I
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Speaker 9: haven't seen the alberan Easy government do anything new or effective.
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Speaker 9: And you've got to think the combination of large numbers
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Speaker 9: of arrivals by air that then claim asylum after they're
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Speaker 9: off the plane and in Australia, combined with what looks
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Speaker 9: like a more porous border, that's going to make immigration
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Speaker 9: and illegal arrivals a radioactive issue for the Alberansi government.
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Speaker 9: They really need to start investing in both these areas.
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Speaker 2: Most definitely, Michael Shubridge a pleasure as always. Well after
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Speaker 2: the break, no one can understand why Biden is so
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Speaker 2: desperate to stay in the race, But we might have
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Speaker 2: just figured out why don't go anywhere. I'll tell you
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Speaker 2: after the break.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether you caught this on the Kenny Report,
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Speaker 2: which of course is being hosted at the moment by
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Speaker 2: Steve Price. Pauline Hanson tried to do an interview in
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Speaker 2: front of a Mary Poppins statue and this is what happened.
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Speaker 15: I'm in Marava, Steve, and I've got to tell you this.
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Speaker 15: We're setting up to do the film here. So our
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Speaker 15: staffer came from the council and told me that I
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Speaker 15: can't film here next to Mary Poppins because they're apolitical,
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Speaker 15: and told me I shouldn't be here. I told them,
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Speaker 15: get lost. I'm doing the interview here. They said, we're
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Speaker 15: going to bring the police up. Please turn a and
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Speaker 15: you see a confrontation here, you know what's happening with
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Speaker 15: it because Mary Poppins is apolitical and I shouldn't be
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Speaker 15: actually doing.
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Speaker 9: The interview here.
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Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake, reason four thousand, five hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty six to abolish councils right there. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's go over to the US. Joe Biden's Democratic aids
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Speaker 2: are desperately trying to carve a path forward for the
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Speaker 2: US president, and of course, in the wake of these
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Speaker 2: multiple catastrophic public performances, he's had the Debate, of course
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Speaker 2: chief among them. But a recent piece by The Wall
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Speaker 2: Street Journal was highlighted a potential reason as to why
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Speaker 2: the Democrats are still going to battle for their frail
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Speaker 2: president Now. Currently, Joe Biden has an estimated one million
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Speaker 2: US dollars in the war chest for this year's campaign,
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Speaker 2: but apparently the rules specify that if Biden drops out
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Speaker 2: before the Democrats formally make him their norminee at the
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Speaker 2: National Democratic Convention in August, they're no more than two
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars sorry if any campaign funds can be transferred
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Speaker 2: to another candidate. So it's no wonder Biden is so
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Speaker 2: desperately keeping on to discuss this and much more is
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Speaker 2: Brianna Aligneman, elections correspondent for the Federalist Brianna, what do
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Speaker 2: you make of this theory?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's definitely plausible as an explanation why
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Speaker 16: Biden has yet two step down. But I don't think
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Speaker 16: that Biden has any plans to step down, especially when
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Speaker 16: you know that you know, the one hundred million dollars
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Speaker 16: that he has in his war chest that can go
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Speaker 16: to the DNC, and the DNC is not stupid. They
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Speaker 16: will spend that money wisely to target where were they
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Speaker 16: residential nominee is So I think this is just Biden
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Speaker 16: being defined and not wanting to leave his post. And
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Speaker 16: the best part is we wouldn't even need to have
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Speaker 16: this conversation if Democrats didn't subvert the you know, actual
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Speaker 16: democracy that they want to talk about and allow a
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Speaker 16: real primary to happen a few months ago. But they didn't.
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Speaker 16: They wanted to silence anyone, including Dean Phillips who was
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Speaker 16: a Democrat challenging Biden for the nomination and said Joe
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Speaker 16: Biden's not all their mentally. They didn't allow him to
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Speaker 16: really have a fair primary challenge because they didn't want
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Speaker 16: to address these problems head on. And now they find
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Speaker 16: themselves in a rock and a hard place because they
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Speaker 16: have no choice but to address these issues.
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Speaker 2: And this is the shard and forraud every little right
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Speaker 2: like they coveted up for so long, the American media
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Speaker 2: coveted up for so long, even though it was so
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Speaker 2: obvious to everyone in long come to the debate, and
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Speaker 2: it is absolutely obvious to everyone, and they have to
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Speaker 2: do something if they want to win this election. There's
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Speaker 2: no two ways about it.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is extreme damage control mode right now. You know,
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Speaker 16: they thought that they could hide Biden. You know, they
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Speaker 16: can hide them from the press. He rarely takes questions.
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Speaker 16: He is the president. And I think what four decades
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Speaker 16: that has given the least amount of media interviews, yet
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Speaker 16: he prides his administration on being, you know, one of
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Speaker 16: transparency that we don't actually get. Back in February, Republicans
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Speaker 16: were concerned when the Robert Herbert word came out that
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Speaker 16: said that Biden was basically forgetting things and not cognitively
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Speaker 16: or not all cognizant, and Democrats refuse to release the tape.
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Speaker 16: In fact, Mary Garland, our attorney general, is being held
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Speaker 16: in contempt of Congress because he's refusing to release the tapes.
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Speaker 16: If they weren't damning like we know they are, they
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Speaker 16: would release them. But instead they're trying to run defense
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Speaker 16: and create this bubble around Joe Biden to really prevent
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Speaker 16: him from being kind of, you know, shot down any
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Speaker 16: more than he already is now.
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Speaker 2: Of course, they know that they will be in big
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Speaker 2: trouble if Biden goes to the election. Trump will just
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Speaker 2: walk all over him like he did at the debate. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, if you want to win this election, you've
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Speaker 2: got to get some votes from somewhere, right, And this
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Speaker 2: legislation that's being proposed in the US today that would
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Speaker 2: require a voter to prove that they are a citizen before.
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Speaker 1: Registering to vote.
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Speaker 2: You've written a brilliant piece in The Figuralist about the
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Speaker 2: democrats somewhat redundant position on this bill. But why do
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Speaker 2: you think they might be so hell bent against it
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Speaker 2: when Biden's doing so badly.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, Democrats benefit from loose election security laws, not just
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Speaker 16: with non citizen voting, but for instance, you know you'll
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Speaker 16: get unmanned, absentee ballid drop boxes right where people can
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Speaker 16: just drop a ballot and nobody knows who's dropping it off.
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Speaker 16: They benefit from that. It's why they spend millions of
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Speaker 16: dollars to change your race in Wisconsin so that they
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Speaker 16: could reverse a ruling that said those ballot drop boxes
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Speaker 16: are illegal. And when it comes to non citizen voting, Democrats,
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Speaker 16: especially Biden, keep saying that it's already illegal. Well, so
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Speaker 16: is speeding. But if you don't get caught, you actually
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Speaker 16: get in trouble. Right, And in the United States voter
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Speaker 16: registration form, you just sign a box that says I'm
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Speaker 16: a citizen and then sign your name right, so our
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Speaker 16: free and for elections hinge on the honor system. And
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Speaker 16: Democrats want you to believe that that's enough to make
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Speaker 16: other Americans feel safe and secure, but it's not. And
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Speaker 16: so the legislation you mentioned would be give an enforcement mechanism.
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Speaker 16: You sign that box saying your citizen prove it. There
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Speaker 16: is nothing wrong with that, and the fact that Democrats
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Speaker 16: are opposed to it is concerning.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's terribly convenient when you've had millions of people
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Speaker 2: pouring over the southern border, illegal bigrants pouring over the
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Speaker 2: southern border out of the bid administraction, isn't it.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, And it's really funny. You know, Joe Biden has
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Speaker 16: led in almost as many illegal immigrants as Ellis Island
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Speaker 16: did over sixty years legally, to just give you the
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Speaker 16: scope of how bad our immigration system is. And Democrats
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Speaker 16: will tell you, well, illegals don't really vote, it's rare.
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Speaker 16: Fifteen hundred illegal immigrants were accidentally registered to vote in
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Speaker 16: California at twenty eighteen and the state wouldn't even.
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Speaker 14: Have caught it.
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Speaker 16: The guy went to the state, they ignored him. So
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Speaker 16: we went to a local newspaper and said, they're ignoring me.
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Speaker 16: But this is what's happening, right. So the fact that
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Speaker 16: we have all this proof that Democrats don't care when
47:47
Speaker 16: it does happen actually support non citizens voting in local elections.
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Speaker 16: It leads credence to the idea that Democrats are doing
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Speaker 16: this on purpose.
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Speaker 2: Now, they did actually manage to get the president upright
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Speaker 2: and in front of a telly prompter for his NATO
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Speaker 2: convention speech today. What did you make of it?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, this is an opportunity for Biden to
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Speaker 16: try and calm fears, and I don't think it did that.
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Speaker 16: The reason being, Biden didn't make any serious guests during
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Speaker 16: his speech, but he was reading off a teleprompter. That's
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Speaker 16: how Biden has done this past four years, is reading
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Speaker 16: off a teleprompter, reading off note cards, having predetermined questions
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Speaker 16: given to him, so he has prep time for an answer.
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Speaker 16: He is not good on his feet, and a president
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Speaker 16: has to be good on his feet because when they
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Speaker 16: go meet with world leaders, they're not given the upper hand.
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Speaker 16: World leaders want to have the upper hand themselves, and
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Speaker 16: so Joe Biden can't actually handle that scenario. So I
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Speaker 16: think he's actually doing a press conference tomorrow in the
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Speaker 16: United States. I'm hoping that that'll give us a better
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Speaker 16: opportunity to see where he's at.
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Speaker 2: Now, you've only got ten seconds here, Brienna but a
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Speaker 2: golf playoff between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. A million
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Speaker 2: dollars to charity. If Biden wins, the Charities of the
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Speaker 2: USA Gettes sent halo.
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Speaker 16: Look, Joe Biden couldn't even ride a bicycle, He can't
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Speaker 16: walk process stage, and he can't walk down a flight
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Speaker 16: of stairs, So I don't really know if you'd fare
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Speaker 16: well in the golf match.
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Speaker 2: A Brianna Lineman, thank you so much for your time. Look,
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Speaker 2: I'm a pretty ordinary golfer, and I reckon even I
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Speaker 2: could do better than Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: And that's saying something. That's all we've got time for tonight.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned now.
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Speaker 2: James Murray is up next with Paul Murray Live