Latest / Brian Thomas / Smither-"Vent" - The Police are Just Following the crime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Smith, welcome back to the program, my friend. Love having
- 0:02Speaker 1: you on the show.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me on, Brian. I really appreciate it,
- 0:06Speaker 2: and I'm excited to come on. Let me just you know,
- 0:10Speaker 2: chime in on all the people who continue to pray
- 0:12Speaker 2: for you and pray for you, know as you go
- 0:16Speaker 2: through the chemo treatment, you know, full complete healing.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Thanks what we're praying for, right, Thank you, man.
- 0:22Speaker 2: I'll take a bad to have you back.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'll just take a break in the growth of it.
- 0:26Speaker 1: You know, I got five years out of the last one.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I appreciate the prayers the last time around, and I'll
- 0:31Speaker 1: take all I can get this time. And it just
- 0:33Speaker 1: it's really a glorious and grand thing for me just
- 0:36Speaker 1: to have to know that there are actually people in
- 0:38Speaker 1: this world who care enough about me to send a
- 0:40Speaker 1: prayer my way. Man, that's truly a life's miracle and
- 0:43Speaker 1: it does get me by. Thank you very much, Christopher.
- 0:45Speaker 1: It's also great having you as a friend. There's another
- 0:47Speaker 1: one in life's little miracles.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Oh well, I agree, man, that is that is a
- 0:53Speaker 2: shared feeling between us. So we just gotta we just
- 0:56Speaker 2: got to keep pushing through life because it is very complicated,
- 1:00Speaker 2: not easy for anyone. Yeah, period, not easy for anyone. Yeah.
- 1:04Speaker 2: I heard you had some questions this morning about our petition.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Oh yeah, real quick, missip James called. It's the petition
- 1:10Speaker 1: to get at least seven council members to thumbs up
- 1:14Speaker 1: or thumbs down on hiring and firing of the chief
- 1:16Speaker 1: of police and the fire chief. I get it all
- 1:18Speaker 1: day long. With what happened to Chief Washington, what happened
- 1:21Speaker 1: to Chief Fiji, fired for no reason, with swirling question
- 1:25Speaker 1: marks behind the scene. City Manager Long apparently has the
- 1:27Speaker 1: sole authority to do that, So why not get council involved?
- 1:31Speaker 1: First off, he wants to know why seven as opposed
- 1:34Speaker 1: to simple majority? And the other thing, will it impact
- 1:37Speaker 1: the collaborative Agreement at all by putting this in place,
- 1:40Speaker 1: assuming people sign the petition and vote for it.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Boy, The second one is a layup a though this
- 1:46Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the Collaborative Agreement, and this
- 1:51Speaker 2: notion that it does right is being placed and put
- 1:54Speaker 2: out there by missus Irish Rowley. So she's suggesting that
- 2:00Speaker 2: us bringing more transparency to the hiring and firing of
- 2:06Speaker 2: police and fire chiefs in the future has anything to
- 2:10Speaker 2: do with the collaborative agreement. Let me make a quick
- 2:13Speaker 2: point here. Two points. Number one, why would we want
- 2:17Speaker 2: one sole person making the decision about who's hired and
- 2:22Speaker 2: who's fired in the City of Cincinnati Related to those
- 2:25Speaker 2: two positions. Number two, the city manager herself cannot be
- 2:31Speaker 2: terminated without seven members of council saying yes. So it
- 2:36Speaker 2: is the exact same process that she affords herself right
- 2:40Speaker 2: now in her current position. And so the question, the
- 2:44Speaker 2: second question is they're nine members of council, and why
- 2:47Speaker 2: you say seven out of nine is because to get
- 2:51Speaker 2: to seven it tells you there's something egregious going on.
- 2:55Speaker 2: If it were five or four, five to four, like
- 2:57Speaker 2: in the Senate they say we want sixty votes at
- 3:00Speaker 2: a fifty here, it just says it's a heavier lift
- 3:03Speaker 2: here to say, you've got to get those two extra
- 3:06Speaker 2: members of council out of nine to say, whatever is
- 3:08Speaker 2: happening related to that fire chief or police chief's employment,
- 3:13Speaker 2: it's serious, serious enough for seven to say, hey, you're
- 3:17Speaker 2: going to lose your job or not lose your job
- 3:20Speaker 2: in this case. If you can imagine, the city manager
- 3:23Speaker 2: comes before council is saying it, I want to fire
- 3:26Speaker 2: the fire chief, and I want you don't think I've
- 3:28Speaker 2: ever said this. The reason, my speculation, not a fact,
- 3:31Speaker 2: of why I believe the fire chief was terminated is
- 3:35Speaker 2: this simple. The mayor wanted his own fire chief. Remember
- 3:41Speaker 2: this fire chief was hired by John Cranley, and politicians
- 3:44Speaker 2: get a little you know, They're like, I want my
- 3:46Speaker 2: own people, I want my own administration around me. So
- 3:50Speaker 2: they instead of going to Chief Washington and saying, hey,
- 3:54Speaker 2: Chief Washington, we want to change horses here, right, they
- 3:57Speaker 2: just went to him and just violently fired him without cause.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Now that speculation, but I don't think the public appreciates
- 4:06Speaker 2: that fire Chief Washington was hired by the previous administration.
- 4:11Speaker 2: He was left over. He had only served two years,
- 4:15Speaker 2: and I think this mayor wanted him out. It's that simple.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And because the mayor has the power to recommend termination
- 4:25Speaker 2: of the city manager, he or she holds tremendous power
- 4:29Speaker 2: over the executives. And so he says, I want this
- 4:32Speaker 2: person out, and that city manager goes and does the bedding,
- 4:36Speaker 2: the bidding of the mayor. I think that's how it
- 4:39Speaker 2: ultimately played out.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Well at Boss Consernt the time in this segment, I
- 4:42Speaker 1: just have to observe. You know a question mark was
- 4:43Speaker 1: Chief Washington doing a poor job? If it was a
- 4:46Speaker 1: poor job, then there was a reason to fire him.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So what's wrong with leaving him in place if he's
- 4:51Speaker 1: doing a good job. And I would say it's really
- 4:53Speaker 1: damn childish to just do it because I want my
- 4:56Speaker 1: guy Lord Talk Station thirty two if you have ker
- 5:01Speaker 1: City Talk Station Bran Thomas with Christopher Smith and doing
- 5:04Speaker 1: that Smithervan thing. Christopher, you got the floor, my brother?
- 5:07Speaker 1: What else is going on?
- 5:09Speaker 2: Well, this is let's just stay with this just for
- 5:11Speaker 2: a quick sertin because citizens can sign the petition. You know,
- 5:16Speaker 2: sometimes we say what can we do? You know, how
- 5:20Speaker 2: can I put it together and help? And right now
- 5:23Speaker 2: we need citizens in Cincinnati to come and sign the petition.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And so there there are three locations. One is Dale
- 5:31Speaker 2: High Barber's four roh to Greenwell Avenue. The owner there
- 5:37Speaker 2: is Victor Fabreau. He lives in Price Hill, but he's
- 5:40Speaker 2: the barber there. You can he has the petition, you
- 5:42Speaker 2: can sign it. Dave Backer Auto, he has the petition.
- 5:47Speaker 2: There's there are city people that work there. They have
- 5:50Speaker 2: the petition. And then Jim and Jack on River Road
- 5:53Speaker 2: people can come in and sign the sign the petition.
- 5:56Speaker 2: And so the question is, and we have a lot
- 5:59Speaker 2: of other people that petitions in their hands and they're
- 6:02Speaker 2: running around and they're collecting signatures. I want to just
- 6:05Speaker 2: explain that signing the petition doesn't even say whether you
- 6:08Speaker 2: support the issue. It means you believe in democracy and
- 6:11Speaker 2: you believe in November that citizens have the right to
- 6:15Speaker 2: say yes or no. You know, sometimes what happens here
- 6:18Speaker 2: is what democrats tend to do in our city is
- 6:21Speaker 2: say don't sign, don't sign, don't sign. Some of them
- 6:24Speaker 2: are communists, right. The reality of it is is signing
- 6:28Speaker 2: the petition doesn't say yes, I support the issue. This
- 6:31Speaker 2: is the beginning of citizens engaging in their process to
- 6:35Speaker 2: petition their government saying we'd like to see this issue
- 6:38Speaker 2: on the ballot. So it's not even about sorting out
- 6:41Speaker 2: whether you like it or not. Do you agree that
- 6:43Speaker 2: we have the right to petition our government to place
- 6:46Speaker 2: the issue on the ballot. And the issue is simply
- 6:49Speaker 2: as saying we don't want this power vested in the
- 6:52Speaker 2: city manager. Why do we want a consultant? And I'll
- 6:56Speaker 2: end with this part of it having the power to
- 6:59Speaker 2: influence the city manager on who to hire and fire
- 7:03Speaker 2: in the police department without us knowing about it.
- 7:06Speaker 1: You're talking about Iris Rawlings, correct, I'm.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Saying we have somebody working very closely, We have the
- 7:12Speaker 2: mayor who can put influence on the city manager, and
- 7:16Speaker 2: none of the other people that we've elected have any
- 7:19Speaker 2: insight to say yes or no to it. I think
- 7:22Speaker 2: we have a problem here and this has nothing to
- 7:25Speaker 2: do with the collaborative agreement, And the only reason someone
- 7:30Speaker 2: would assert that is they're attempting to assert race into
- 7:34Speaker 2: this discussion. Let me remind the public that Chief Washington,
- 7:37Speaker 2: Michael Washington, who was terminated, is a black American.
- 7:41Speaker 1: This is.
- 7:43Speaker 2: A lot of people don't even know that Chief Washington
- 7:46Speaker 2: is a black American. So when people say, well, this
- 7:49Speaker 2: has everything to do with the collaboraive agreement and Chief
- 7:52Speaker 2: Fiji is a white female, right, the reality that we
- 7:57Speaker 2: don't care about you and I and you're listening artists,
- 7:59Speaker 2: We don't care about what the gender is with the
- 8:02Speaker 2: race of the verson. We're talking about the process, and
- 8:05Speaker 2: we're saying we don't want any city manager in the
- 8:08Speaker 2: future to solely have the power to make this decision,
- 8:12Speaker 2: and us, the taxpayers when Chief Washington settles this lawsuit
- 8:17Speaker 2: Brian Thomas by the end of the year, prior to
- 8:20Speaker 2: this even being voted on, he's going to get at
- 8:23Speaker 2: a minimum, in my estimation, five million, and he probably
- 8:27Speaker 2: will get north of ten million if they go to trial,
- 8:30Speaker 2: because the lower court has already said you had no
- 8:33Speaker 2: cause to fire him. Chief Fiji is going through the
- 8:37Speaker 2: administrative process, so she hasn't started her litigation, so her
- 8:41Speaker 2: litigation might go on for three years. But Chief Washington
- 8:44Speaker 2: will be settled this year. He's already three years in
- 8:47Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, and it's going to be a massive settlement
- 8:50Speaker 2: for a decision a city manager made without the Board
- 8:54Speaker 2: of Trustees, the nine members of council. Thank you for
- 8:57Speaker 2: allowing me to stretch out on that since a citizen
- 9:00Speaker 2: called in an after that. When we come back, brother,
- 9:02Speaker 2: I do have some very hot topics with a lot
- 9:05Speaker 2: of energy and out. You know. Part of it is
- 9:07Speaker 2: the traffic stops study that was just dropped like a
- 9:12Speaker 2: grenade in the middle of our community.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be from Campaign zero, a project of
- 9:18Speaker 1: we the protesters inquid started in the talk station, the
- 9:26Speaker 1: fifty five Krosite talk station, continuing the Smitherman pivoting over
- 9:30Speaker 1: to the topic Christopher Smithvan again, you have the floor.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Let's talk about this survey that was done suggesting the
- 9:36Speaker 1: Cincinni Police Department or I guess races because of the
- 9:39Speaker 1: breakdown of traffic stops. Go ahead and have at it,
- 9:42Speaker 1: my friend.
- 9:43Speaker 2: First, let me be clear, straight out of the gate,
- 9:46Speaker 2: our Cincinnati Police Department is one of the best run,
- 9:52Speaker 2: the best diverse, the most diverse by race and gender
- 9:57Speaker 2: in the city of Cincinnati. There is no department right
- 10:02Speaker 2: in the city that has the level of diversity Black Americans,
- 10:06Speaker 2: White Americans, Latino Americans, women, men, Asian, you name it,
- 10:12Speaker 2: We've got it.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Yep.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Right, there is no department. So the reality of it
- 10:17Speaker 2: is there are black American police officers who are also
- 10:23Speaker 2: out there doing stops.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Yep.
- 10:28Speaker 2: And to assert that those Black Americans, I'm gonna get
- 10:32Speaker 2: to the white too, but get to assert that the
- 10:34Speaker 2: Black Americans are racist because they're pulling a car over
- 10:39Speaker 2: is insane. Meaning our officers are out there doing their job.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Number two, our white officers who are stopping cars, which
- 10:49Speaker 2: is what we want them to do. It's called proactive policeing.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Somebody is rolling through, they don't have a license plate,
- 10:56Speaker 2: or they're driving fifty or sixty or sixty five mile
- 11:00Speaker 2: an hour bond Hill right down Reading Road into Rose Line,
- 11:04Speaker 2: jumping in and out of car. If you want a
- 11:07Speaker 2: safe place, a safe zone where our children are crossing
- 11:12Speaker 2: the crosswalk going across deal over on the other side,
- 11:16Speaker 2: or California who are catching the bus on either side,
- 11:20Speaker 2: you gotta slow traffic down. And the bond Hill Community
- 11:23Speaker 2: Council has been requesting that the police come and do
- 11:27Speaker 2: that kind of traffic control in their business district. Roseline
- 11:32Speaker 2: has been requesting that the police come places like Price
- 11:36Speaker 2: Hill on Warsaw full of prostitution, full of drug trafficking,
- 11:41Speaker 2: the McDonald's and the Kroger's at the top right over
- 11:44Speaker 2: by seating an elder. They've been requesting that the police come.
- 11:48Speaker 2: This methodology. You and I don't know anything about what
- 11:52Speaker 2: this group is, who they are, who paid for it,
- 11:55Speaker 2: how they came up with their numbers. It is insane
- 11:58Speaker 2: to just drop a report like this and say, hey man,
- 12:02Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Police Department are racist. But here's the motivation.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Here's the motivation. The motivation is to secure more contracts
- 12:10Speaker 2: with the city. The motivation is to push the agenda
- 12:15Speaker 2: that the Collaborative Agreement and all these other things that
- 12:18Speaker 2: that we've we've been through. We are on the other
- 12:21Speaker 2: side of We've got to make sure we bring it
- 12:23Speaker 2: back in order to justify spending more and more and
- 12:26Speaker 2: more money on things like that. That's where we are.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Well, that's where these NGOs come from. You know, where
- 12:34Speaker 1: you don't have a genuine problem, you create one. Let
- 12:36Speaker 1: we learned from the Southern Property Law Center they were
- 12:39Speaker 1: paying KKK members to gin up and to talk about
- 12:46Speaker 1: you know, racist acts and violent acts and to be
- 12:49Speaker 1: warned about them. They were paid to do that. Those
- 12:52Speaker 1: I mean, they wouldn't have allegations if it wasn't for
- 12:54Speaker 1: a paycheck coming from one of these outside entities. Was
- 12:57Speaker 1: once you know, oh my god, they are the you know,
- 12:59Speaker 1: the gold standard for identifying hate groups. Well it turns
- 13:02Speaker 1: out there wasn't really a whole lot of hate there,
- 13:03Speaker 1: so they'd pay to make some up.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I really ploy that the Sentinels, who are an organization connected,
- 13:14Speaker 2: will speak out very publicly about their brothers and sisters
- 13:19Speaker 2: who are in law enforcement and literally hold a press conference.
- 13:23Speaker 2: It's been my dream that the Sentinels get a voice
- 13:26Speaker 2: here and say this is absolutely unacceptable and wrong. Okay,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but I'm sharing with you. The motivation is money, the
- 13:34Speaker 2: motivation is power, the motivation is politics. Right, we want
- 13:39Speaker 2: to move into the November election in Cincinnati, gin up
- 13:43Speaker 2: black Americans who are by the way, Brian Thomas, requesting
- 13:48Speaker 2: that the police come into their neighborhoods. This suggestion that
- 13:52Speaker 2: the small percentage of criminals that are in our city
- 13:56Speaker 2: black or white, right, that the super majority of US
- 13:59Speaker 2: black and white Latino Asian male or female aren't getting
- 14:03Speaker 2: up every day right now driving into work. They're listening
- 14:05Speaker 2: to us as they drive into work every single day.
- 14:08Speaker 2: They are law abiding citizens. And those law abiding citizens
- 14:12Speaker 2: are calling the police and wanting them to come in.
- 14:16Speaker 2: I bet that wasn't a part of any of it.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Meaning it's not just about traffic stops, it's about the
- 14:21Speaker 2: community coming together. Brian Thomas, I served as the vice
- 14:24Speaker 2: mayor for a long time, and they the community council
- 14:27Speaker 2: say we would like the police to come in and
- 14:30Speaker 2: aggressively police this area. I guarantee you there was no
- 14:34Speaker 2: connection between the stops and those resolutions that are coming
- 14:38Speaker 2: from our community councils, Meaning they were requested to come
- 14:42Speaker 2: in and do those stops to slow down traffic so
- 14:45Speaker 2: our children aren't being run down in the middle of
- 14:48Speaker 2: the street. Or there's gun violence like we saw in
- 14:51Speaker 2: Millville drive through boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
- 14:54Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom boom this weekend. Or the
- 14:56Speaker 2: twenty five year old Yale Right who was killed right
- 15:00Speaker 2: in villages of roll Hill, Michael Smith died age twenty five.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Boom boom boom boom boom shot down. Guess what the
- 15:07Speaker 2: community did. The community rally together, we want safe streets,
- 15:10Speaker 2: get the gun down. They did that this weekend.
- 15:12Speaker 1: They did.
- 15:12Speaker 2: They're requesting that the police come into roll Hill, right,
- 15:17Speaker 2: So if they're doing the study, why don't they say
- 15:20Speaker 2: community requested increased presence of police. That then justifies why
- 15:26Speaker 2: they're there.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Yes, they didn't.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Do that, they justifies it. I was the chair of
- 15:31Speaker 2: Law and Public Safety, Dude, I'm telling you, the community
- 15:34Speaker 2: councils are texting, emailing and requesting the police. So now
- 15:39Speaker 2: the police come, they do a study like this that
- 15:42Speaker 2: the police officers are doing what the community wants, and
- 15:45Speaker 2: then they say, hey, man, this is racist. It's not.
- 15:48Speaker 2: The community is requesting that they be there.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Yes, well, boss, you see he's got a lot pent up.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Let's bring Christopher back for a little bit more. We
- 15:55Speaker 1: have one more segments seven forty seven right now, if
- 15:58Speaker 1: you five K City Talk Teation and get in touches. Yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 1: fifty five KARCB Talk station. By the time us was
- 16:02Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman to do when the last segment in the smith
- 16:05Speaker 1: event before we get to money, Monday's Brian James uf
- 16:07Speaker 1: the top of the air and it is Christopher more
- 16:08Speaker 1: on this alleged bias and police pullover reports we received.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I know you mentioned the Sentinel president and Centinel Police
- 16:16Speaker 1: Association Stuart Isaac, who is the president. He said, I've
- 16:18Speaker 1: been told about the information. There's some questions to it
- 16:21Speaker 1: being inaccurate. The numbers might be skewed, he acknowledged. Apparently,
- 16:24Speaker 1: City manager Long said, well, we got it, and we're
- 16:26Speaker 1: gonna have to hire an external expert who can do
- 16:28Speaker 1: their own independent review because the city wasn't involved, nor
- 16:31Speaker 1: was the police department involved. Apparently even excluded Iris Roy
- 16:35Speaker 1: believe it or not, in doing this report. So she says,
- 16:38Speaker 1: you know that doesn't we need to provide a thoroughfare
- 16:40Speaker 1: in full picture, and ask all the naysayers and those
- 16:43Speaker 1: most critical of us. Isaac said, you know, those most
- 16:46Speaker 1: critical of us, just allow the process, like any investigation,
- 16:48Speaker 1: to come to fruition before we start taking a diving
- 16:51Speaker 1: leap off the cliff and accuse us of doing some
- 16:53Speaker 1: things that maybe we have not done at all. So
- 16:57Speaker 1: sounds to me like he's like, no way, don't take
- 16:59Speaker 1: it at phase five. Let's have someone legitimately review this
- 17:02Speaker 1: because it was apparently a biased outside campaign. Zero NNGO.
- 17:07Speaker 1: I guess, go ahead, Chris.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that the president is making a comment.
- 17:11Speaker 2: We need real clarity here. And the point is the
- 17:14Speaker 2: only reason you and I are talking about it is
- 17:17Speaker 2: that the Cincinnati Inquirer did a hit piece on it.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, So we wouldn't be discussing it right
- 17:22Speaker 2: now if it wasn't in the public domain. So let's
- 17:25Speaker 2: go to the Inquiry and ask their editorial board stop
- 17:28Speaker 2: writing about things before you have all of the information.
- 17:31Speaker 2: The problem is they drop the grenade and then walk away.
- 17:35Speaker 2: They don't put all the disclaimers that you just put
- 17:37Speaker 2: out there about the study. There's going to be an investigation.
- 17:41Speaker 2: We don't really know who's behind it. Do they do
- 17:43Speaker 2: a follow up report and tell us all of that information.
- 17:46Speaker 2: It's just an unfair report. And the police department and
- 17:50Speaker 2: law enforcement all across the country they're under political power,
- 17:54Speaker 2: like political shooting at them, saying not literally but sometimes
- 17:58Speaker 2: literally that I'm saying politically speak Tivley, and being a
- 18:01Speaker 2: police officer is the toughest job right now. They're being
- 18:05Speaker 2: asked to do so much, so many different ways that
- 18:08Speaker 2: their heads are spinning on a swivel out there. I'm
- 18:11Speaker 2: just saying, this was the wrong time for us to
- 18:14Speaker 2: be pushing back right now. I'm looking at fifty two
- 18:16Speaker 2: neighborhoods right and we've got it. We had a dead
- 18:19Speaker 2: body on Yarmouth yarnmorth Over in bond Hill last weekend
- 18:24Speaker 2: and that's in a playground, kind of basketball area, kind
- 18:27Speaker 2: of tucked off of reading road. Dead body. We got
- 18:30Speaker 2: a dead body that I just talked about over on
- 18:33Speaker 2: Villages of row Hill mckil smith, Gy. Today's twenty five.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Here's the most Here's the most troubling part about the report,
- 18:39Speaker 2: and then I'll close my mouth about it, is that
- 18:42Speaker 2: if we ask ourselves in Cincinnati. We'll say Cincinnati is
- 18:45Speaker 2: forty eight or forty nine percent African Americans. Okay, so
- 18:48Speaker 2: then if we ask ourselves where's the crime happening? Where
- 18:52Speaker 2: is it? That's the big question, is the crime happening?
- 18:55Speaker 2: And Mouth Adams, Hey, Mouth Adams, welcome to the party.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Fifty of your cars were broke it into. But you
- 19:01Speaker 2: guys voted for this administration. This is who you voted for.
- 19:04Speaker 2: That's a nice little commercial for them. Right it's now
- 19:07Speaker 2: heading into Mount Adam. Fifty of your cars were hit.
- 19:10Speaker 2: All at the same time. My point to you is
- 19:12Speaker 2: that we have to understand that the crime levels in
- 19:16Speaker 2: Row Hill, or crime levels that are happening in Warsaw
- 19:21Speaker 2: and Price Hill. I'm giving those two examples that we
- 19:24Speaker 2: want our police going to those hot spots, so we
- 19:27Speaker 2: expect them to be deterring crime. And it might be
- 19:30Speaker 2: that disproportionately in Cincinnati they are detaining or arresting black
- 19:35Speaker 2: Americans or white Americans in those two neighborhoods as an example,
- 19:40Speaker 2: if that's where the crime is, I'm frustrated that it's
- 19:44Speaker 2: almost like, hey man, you're doing something that's really bad,
- 19:46Speaker 2: when the reality of it is, like I said, the
- 19:49Speaker 2: neighborhoods are requesting the police to come there, and they're
- 19:52Speaker 2: really just following the crime. That's what we want cops
- 19:55Speaker 2: to do. Leave all this other stuff alone, so that
- 19:58Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you and I are
- 20:00Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the bottom line.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Period period and officer presence, an officer in arrests decrease crime.
- 20:08Speaker 1: It's no, the word gets out if you commit something,
- 20:10Speaker 1: don't commit a traffic violation. Make sure your car's got
- 20:13Speaker 1: license plates on it, you know, all the normal things.
- 20:16Speaker 1: You know what, I've joked about this before. You know,
- 20:18Speaker 1: I hear about you know, driving while black, and I
- 20:20Speaker 1: appreciate that might be a phenomenon from time to time,
- 20:23Speaker 1: and I know was much more pervasive back in the day.
- 20:25Speaker 1: But you know what, I get pulled over in the
- 20:26Speaker 1: middle of the night. Why because I'm going to work
- 20:28Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning. If you're out of
- 20:30Speaker 1: the street at three o'clock in the morning, they're gonna
- 20:31Speaker 1: figure out a way to pull you over. And oh, look,
- 20:34Speaker 1: Thomas white guy got pulled over because he didn't have
- 20:36Speaker 1: a front license plate on. That was when you had
- 20:38Speaker 1: to display one. Was that trip really necessary? Well, you
- 20:41Speaker 1: know what, you let me go because it wasn't drunk,
- 20:44Speaker 1: and I think that's what he guy expected. You know,
- 20:46Speaker 1: that's policing, active policing, and word gets out. Don't commit
- 20:51Speaker 1: crimes and don't be an idiot, and especially don't engage
- 20:53Speaker 1: in gun violence in any neighborhood period, or you will
- 20:56Speaker 1: get arrested. It's about time arrest because that's the most
- 20:58Speaker 1: important leg of the criminal justice system.