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What We Do In The Shadows S3 with Laura Montgomery · The Art of Costume Podcast

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We have a friend who's a working really hard to be nausea for
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Halloween but she's kind of stuck.
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Any like tips from the pro herself?
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Well, what she stuck on? Probably the beginning Hello,
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and welcome to the art, accosting, blogcast Imo's with
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joy glass, and I'm Spencer Williams.
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Hey, Lizabeth, happy Halloween, happy Halloween.
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Are you ready? Oh my gosh, you can be visiting
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me in like, three days. So, excited almost there.
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I feel like I'm on the plane already.
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Have to pick you up so late, I don't know.
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Are you gonna tell me what you're going to be for
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Halloween? Mia.
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Maybe. Maybe.
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Not. Should I tell you like, what
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realm of costume? It is.
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Yes, it's Marble. Okay.
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That could be anything exactly. I'm being Loki.
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I'm telling everyone. I am very proud of my Loki
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costume. Good.
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I just keep hoping that you'll tell me.
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Maybe it will. Maybe we're matching.
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Maybe, maybe not. Who knows?
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I don't even know. Well, it's Halloween time,
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Elizabeth. And this is Is an episode.
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I really, really looking forward to.
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What are we watching today? I am so excited for what we're
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watching this week. We watched season, 3 of what we
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do in the shadows. My favorite vampires.
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It's her favorite show. We call each other like every
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Thursday and talk about the episodes all of her friends
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watch it. It's like watch parties across
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the country, it's so good. I know, I'm like this fills the
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place. I can't Game of Thrones left
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behind. Hey and I just feel very like I
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feel very Guillermo I just want to be a vampire so bad like
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fleas I mean they would suit it was CEO maybe?
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Yes I don't know. I just want to be nausea.
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That's like right well we need to get some tips because our
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friend of isil is trying to be nausea and she doesn't know
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where to start. So if only we had someone to
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help us with that. So I think I'll do a quick
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little summary of the season so far and then you could do our
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fax go for it. Okay, so for season 3 of what we
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do in the shadows and for those of you that live under a rock
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and haven't seen the show, this is what we do.
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In the shadows is set in Staten Island.
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It follows the lives of three, traditional vampires nand or
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Laszlo. Nausea, Colin Robinson and an
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energy vampire and Guillermo Hernandez familiar, who is
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actually just recently. Turned into bodyguard after
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Guillermo slaughtered, a majority of the local powerful.
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Vampires, the Supreme Council has been forced to point nand or
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nausea. Lazo and Colin as the new
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vampiric counsel for the American Eastern Seaboard and a
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vampire's decide to make your mode their bodyguard.
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Season 3, follows the vampires as they make their spooky
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transition into working 9 to 5 life.
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Yeah, that's I don't really know us how to summarize the show.
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I mean, I think that's perfect so far if you haven't watched
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it, it's on. Hulu.
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Go watch it. It's not that hard.
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Go watch it. Come on every Thursday.
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And this week is the season finale.
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So It together. I know.
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So ready. You can just like binge it for
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your spooky Halloween week and you'll be set.
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Are you ready to go behind the Wardrobe?
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I am this amazing. Amazing.
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Season 3 wardrobe was brought to us by costume designer, Laura
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Montgomery, you might know her from her work in spiral, this
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earlier this year and Spencer, I think I'm just going to end
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behind the Wardrobe there. Because guess who we have today?
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Well, I know I'm really excited. We have special guest.
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Laura Montgomery with us to the block at.
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Hi guys, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
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Oh my gosh, we have been talking about this episode for like
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months now, like, well, into Fourth of July, a long, long
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time. You're so excited to have you.
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So you went from being the assistant costume designer to a
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costume designer for this. Susan, how excited were you?
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I was probably as excited as Guillermo would be if they said
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to him. We're going to make you a
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vampire. I love that so much power
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responsibility. All the decision making, it's
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all mine. Well this season has been so
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much fun and the costumes have been really incredible.
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So far. So I'm excited to talk about
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them on the other side of our break.
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Are you guys ready to jump into this?
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Let's do it. I'm so excited.
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So excited. I wanted to talk to you about
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kind of like the research in the background work.
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You do behind each of the three more, traditional vampires, you
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know? Lazlo's, kind of he's from
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England. Nausea kind of has a Greek root
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to her and Nan Dora. He's Iranian K just kind of walk
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us through kind of all the back of research you do through my
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favorite. Three vampires sure.
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I mean this show it's great because there's so much
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flexibility it's not a period show where it's like this show
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is happening in 1865 and so you have to be really specific
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because even you know, throughout the 1800s there are a
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Different women's fashion and even men's fashion as well, but
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the skirt shape will change a little bit and then a little
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bit, and the bustle will change. And then there's no bustle.
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But because they're vampires were kind of, we can be a little
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bit loosey-goosey about it. So, Laszlo is it Victorian
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ish-200? He has a frog coat but it's a
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little bit of like, you know, it's a little bit Goliath, like
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some punk, Rave goth influences. Has.
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And then no idea, it's kind of like, you know, we're taking the
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best bits of the Victorian period, like that mutton leg
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sleeve that we do a lot on her that only existed for a few
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years actually, like we see it a lot because I think it's, you
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know, it looks great, and it's helpful for us because it's
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really, it's come back in fashion right now.
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So I'm able to, I, you know, I do that mutton leg sleeve.
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It looks good. I think it looks good right now
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because people are seeing it in clothing and on Ways and I'm
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able to buy some contemporary pieces that have that, you know,
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that thing going on. I don't know what's going to
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happen when we go back to minimalism.
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I don't have to think, stock up on everything now and then for
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her skirt shape, it's kind of, you know, will play around with
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it and it can be about what looks good on her for nand.
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Or I really wanted to do more research into kind of Persian
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culture. We know that he's from the
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Persian area in the 1400s. And so, So, it was a lot of this
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season last season. I did a lot of online research.
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It was the pandemic, so pretty much everything was closed.
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Right? This year, I was able to go to a
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couple of museums. We have an Islamic Museum in
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Toronto called the icon and right now they have an
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exhibition on which is so there's an array, Nyan epic poem
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called the shahnameh which was written.
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I think around 1000 ad I work for me.
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Now, a PC, that's too old, but then in the 1400s Persian pings
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were like, oh this poem is amazing with commission, all of
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these portraits of it illustrating the stories in this
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poem. And so they have this exhibition
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on now which are all the illustrations of the poem.
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And so even if they're, you know what, people in the 1400s
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thought people 400 years before that would have dressed, as it's
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still kind of has the stamp of the 1400s.
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So those images are really helpful to get A ideas for his.
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I'm actually just talking about season for now I'm realizing
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because I did not go to this Museum before season 3 but it
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was already on that code. Looking at different Silhouettes
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for him and shapes. That would give him more of like
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more of an Asian feel more of a middle-eastern feel than a
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European feel. Right?
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It's so interesting. I love seeing like both of these
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different cultures like portrayed through each of them.
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It's really exciting to see them bring like their own traditional
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dress to, you know, each Episode even if it's light and you know,
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not very different each week but you can still see it and I love
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that. It's very fun.
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Thanks. Yeah.
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It's I mean, it's little things we have to use what we have in
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stock already, but with him the images that you were showing
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just taking the hat and putting it on an angle at the top,
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that's something that I took from the paintings and doing
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that neckline on him. That's the crossover neckline.
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That's something that we haven't done before.
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But I was seeing a lot of that in reference.
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Yeah, that's really interesting. I didn't even noticed a cross
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before. Or I'm staring at a look, so
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cool. One character.
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I really want to talk about is calling Robinson.
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He really seems to have updated his wardrobe.
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Now that he's part of the Vampira Council, was this like a
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conscious decision? Well, it was definitely a
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conscious decision. To kind of level him up a little
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bit. Not really motivated by the
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vampiric council but just because you know I think partly
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being the one contemporary the Pyre.
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I just wanted to give him a little bit more love and
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attention but what also deserves it?
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Yeah and then it was hard to figure out like we did have a
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lot of information about his backstory so he was wearing a
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lot of like kind of 90s stuff and it was really all about the
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color palette but then learning this season that he's
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celebrating his hundredth birthday the way all the other
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vampires are kind of stuck in their periods of Being Human for
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him. I was like, okay, what if he's
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stuck in the period where he was He's a young man, that's when he
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would have been really like, paying attention to clothing
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styles into fashion. So, for him, that was kind of
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like, the late 40s, early 50s. So I went to this Custom Tailor
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in Toronto who does kind of specialty doesn't contemporary
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builds, but he does a lot of like specialty period tailoring
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and we got some suits done for him.
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That had all of those elements of that vintage tailoring and so
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you wouldn't know it, but Mark is quite the little Fashionista.
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And so he loved all of it. Yeah he like looks so good.
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There's you can definitely tell that that fit is there because
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like just when he first shows up and that like tansu I was like,
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oh Colin Robinson. Look at you being so snazzy.
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Yeah, it was like the Duke of Windsor meets Cary Grant and we
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kind of out. Those were a lot of the images.
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I was pulling, I love that. But yeah, his color palette is
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still like the same con Robinson, though.
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Like he's not changing his colors, he's just Taylor.
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Hang it up a little bit. Yeah, another character that
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return the season and I believe, is one of your favorite
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characters was the guide played by Christian Kristen Schaal.
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I love her character. Walk us through her background a
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little bit because it's kind of hard for me to pinpoint, but I
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love it. And I especially love her
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episode 3 look, or maybe it's for with the, like, bird on her
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head. It's brilliant.
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I'm obsessed with it. She is, bitch.
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She was like, our kind Avant-garde fashionista.
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She only had one costume in season one and it was very kind
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of like it was Modern silhouette but then she had the French
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Hood. So we're like okay, she's old
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but she is also kind of modern and edgy.
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And so for her I used a lot of fashion influences, it was a lot
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of Alexander McQueen, Gareth Pugh the Galata kind of like
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dark edgy and so Yeah, that's what we did for her.
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The Hat that's inspired by McQueen.
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We were going to do it anyway but then the episode where she
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was flying. Like obviously she needed a bird
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have for that. Obviously the race.
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She is obsessed with the Ravens. Yes, I love her because she you
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have that balance of like she's definitely keeping up with like
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what fashion is today. But she's like, I like my
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fashion from how many hundreds of years ago to it's a perfect
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blend of the two. Go there.
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That's a good character. I'm so glad she's back.
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So, like you were saying before about bringing more of the
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Middle Eastern, influences, tune and, or these workout pants,
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certainly seem to be one of those things.
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You got a lot of influence for. Can you please talk about these?
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Because these are like incredible.
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I'm obsessed with them. They're so good.
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Oh hey, thanks it will, it's a traditional Persian sport.
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Art called. Okay.
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It has, I don't know, which is the correct name.
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There's, it's zorkin. A are polygons and it's been
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practiced for. I think hundreds of years and
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they still people still practice it today, and they still wear
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these shorts for it. And so we had the script he was
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working out. I didn't say he was shirtless in
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the script, I'm not sure. I decided he needed to be
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shirtless. Obviously, I mean, and I
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thought, you know, I didn't want to put him in regular gym where
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it was like, what would nand or work out.
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And okay, maybe something he's exercised in previously and so
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getting these pants. I have, there's a Persian girl
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who works on our team and so I'd found them online and I was
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like, where can I get them? And she got me in contact with.
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So I tried a bunch of different routes one, are the guy who does
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our visual effects is also Persian.
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So he tried because I would email people and they wouldn't
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email me back. So then I would get someone to
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To email the Canadian, zorkin a foundation in Farsi and through
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that. I was able to find one guy who
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lent us a vest? He met us in a parking lot and
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he was like, yes I will. I will rent you this vest for
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$200, but these were a shop that custom makes them in Tehran.
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So I got to choose the style. I choose the color gave the size
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this bit of back and forth about the size kids in centimeters and
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he was like, really this size. I was like, really this size And
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then they got made. I was the whole time.
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I was telling everyone like, you know, these pants.
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I hope these pants are coming but we're also going to have
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backups because until they were in our hands, it felt like, is
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this really going to happen? And so they were made and then I
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think and then I handed it over to Gold Bihar who was able to
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communicate in Farsi. Because you know, she had a
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friend who was coming who picked them up and then, you know, we
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had to pay in Real or whatever the currency is, but they got
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picked up, they were hand-carried here, we got them
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and I still when I was holding them, I still couldn't believe
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was like this happened. Wow, it's a crazy story.
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That's like a whole journey for them but it's so worth it.
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I can't even imagine this episode without it this like
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quick little like 15-second spot I needed it.
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Apparently people on Twitter are really appreciating that they're
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authentic yeah that's Witter. Read it, it's everywhere.
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Laura I'm telling you full disclosure Laura and I have
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spoken about this before. So for Elizabeth, I brought you
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some photos just so you could see some like other references.
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Oh my gosh, that's so cool. They are like exit.
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I love that. I love the detail.
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You put into that. They're exactly really cool.
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I love that. Isn't it amazing?
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That it hasn't changed. So I found the sport and then
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when you Google Persian wrestling, Will you end up on
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the iron Sheikh, who had like admittedly?
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His costume was a bit of a mash-up.
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He's got like the Palestinian thing happening.
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Like it was, it was the 80s. Not the most.
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Truly sensitive time, but he is, I think he is pretty good.
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But yeah, it's just so amazing. The images that I found that
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were much colder the style of the pan.
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The design of the pant has stayed really consistent, which
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I think is so beautiful. Yeah, I love that.
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You don't get to see that very often.
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Oh, and it just it, it just made the Episode.
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So real to like of course named or would wear that to the gym.
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I can't imagine you know him in gym shorts at all like it was so
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perfect and it just it was so funny.
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But also like beautiful all the same time I was like this is
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Peak costume design right here, I'm obsessed with it.
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All right, one of my favorite scenes was when Noggin and or go
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to confront the young vampires. And I love this because the
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younger vampires clearly have a way to different aesthetic from
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the two of them. What was like the process of
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like choosing what they would look like in comparison to
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nausea and and or it was a lot of fun.
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So we got this script. And in the script it said 20s
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vampires. And so first we had to clarify
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like are these vampires in their 20s or vampires from the 1920s.
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Oh my God. Totally.
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That's what I would have thought actually.
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Yeah. And I was like, no, it's a in
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their twenties. Okay, cool.
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And then it was kind of a process.
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It worked out. It was very, it was very
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serendipitous, I think that people in their 20s now are
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dressing in clothing from the 90s because I was like okay
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these vampires are probably not just recently turned they've
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been around for a while so they probably were turned in the 90s,
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but we were able to make them look really contemporary.
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And really now because that's what's happening in fashion
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right now, so it was a lot of just, a lot of really kind of
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trend and that's something. We never get to do on this show
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and something I try to avoid doing anyway, because if you do
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trendy it just it gets dated really fast.
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But for these guys, it was a lot of recalling.
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What I wore in high school, especially Ashley the girl with
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the plaid pants of the vest over something, all the layers, Wes,
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I mean, he's Timothy Shalem, a meets River Phoenix.
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There's really like this kind of an overlap there.
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Meets Jordan Catalano. Right.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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I love their like 90s aesthetic. They brought to, it was so fun
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and I've last time we spoke Laura.
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It was funny. You said the show isn't really
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trendy in a sense of fashion, but then you see these vampires
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and like, Elizabeth and I perked up a little bit more, like, way
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way way. Who are they?
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What are they wearing something? And I'm like, oh, I might like
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her pants and like, I might need that in my wardrobe.
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All right, so startling. So we got a new character this
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season, which I thoroughly loved Gail.
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She is such an interesting character and what was it like
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getting create like a whole new character for what's already
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established? That's always a lot of fun.
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And that was, you know, I eat of course has a lot of ideas and
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has her own really, you know, like big and warm and
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charismatic personality. We already know with the
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vampires. Got the vampire story, the
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werewolves. We try to separate them from the
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vampires. We do a lot more earth.
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Tones on the lots of fur shearling 's because essentially
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they're dogs. So going with, you know, the
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fuzzier textures on Gail and then just thinking about her
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influences. Like, this is a woman who lives
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in Staten Island. And she's a big Bob, Seger fan,
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she is Probably little bit kinky.
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Like there's something going on. She dates vampires she's into
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werewolves like I love her especially because she, it
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seemed like she hadn't like grown up since, like the 80s,
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like, still wearing her vant. He's like still, like I can rock
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and roll. Everything's great, Laura.
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Have you ever seen Twilight before speaking from to Twilight
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fans? Well, one and a half.
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I should say. A half.
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Yeah, I did watch the first Twilight movie and I hadn't read
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the books and it was a good experience because I watched it
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in a theater and I was not, I was not a fan.
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I will say, I thought it was pretty ridiculous but I washed
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it in the theater when you're like 400 a probably opening
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weekend. And so it was a packed theater
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full of people like rabid fans who were so excited and it was
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fun to be in that environment. Elizabeth And I was like, you
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know, they knew what was going on and they were applauding when
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certain characters of come on this screen and I was like,
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okay, I guess. And so, you know, but I thought
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it was quite the whole thing was quite overwrought.
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Yeah, totally. I mean, that's totally it for
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yet this scene I can't tell you what this scene did for me
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seeing nand or and like this ridiculous red coat running and
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playing kickball like well, Did you have to, like, take that
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into consideration when creating their costumes that there can be
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playing kickball? Because Nando's coat is not for
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kickball, but yet it worked so well.
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It was so funny to me. Thanks for all of them.
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That was a big consideration. We built all of their, well, the
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vampires costumes, except for Guillermo and Colin, and Fern,
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and or definitely is a consideration to do a coat
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instead of a cape. Because before, whenever we've
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seen him outside, he's never, Hot doesn't have a single coat
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in his closet, it's always been capes, right?
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But it was a double that of, you know, I didn't think that a cape
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would function very well for kickball.
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But then also just keeping them warm, we had this kid.
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We didn't know that it was going to be this snowy.
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That was kind of like a freak. Snowstorm that night.
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Oh, wow. Which funnily enough when it
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snows, it's actually warmer. So temperature wise it was
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better than if it had been snowing, but I did want to be
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able to keep the cast warm. So we've built in all kinds of
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like warm layers into that coat. And then for Nadia to usually I
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don't pay as much attention to the bottom of her spirits
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because in television, you know, it's a lot of cowboy shots like
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we just we see a lot of head and shoulders and there isn't a lot
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of you know, knees down but it was scripted that you know she's
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going to be picking up her skirt and kicking the ball and I knew
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I was like okay this is one time when we're going to see it.
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So she has, you know, we did the pleading and the bustle and a
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matching petticoat with ruffles. So that she would have like
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she'd have to pick up a lot of layers.
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And and then for all of them we did really warm coats that you
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know, look because that's the trick to vampires aren't
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supposed to feel the cold but our human cast, do feel the
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cold. So we have to make it look like
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I just you know, through this on.
23:50
But meanwhile you know and laszlo's jacket, I can see in
23:53
this picture looks a little bit puffy because I know there are
23:56
layers of like wool lining and it's extra, it's not just a
24:01
regular frog. It's made for winter and it's
24:03
made to keep them warm and the same with Nadia's as well.
24:07
We put a lot of layers of like, I think we used polar fleece in
24:11
the end as a lining, so funny. But talking about my favorite
24:17
episode, was actually the casino with the vampires go to.
24:22
I only remember, what nausea said, like the mecca of
24:25
something like Atlantic City. Yeah.
24:27
You would think that they were going to like the coolest place
24:29
on Earth and it's like Atlantic City.
24:32
So funny animal print, lots of sparkles sequins so perfectly
24:38
tacky. That's like that's how I would
24:40
describe it. It's just like such perfect
24:43
tackiness that. I like love it so much.
24:45
Can you just walk us through the casino?
24:48
Yeah, I mean, the script had three, the description was three
24:51
words and I was all we needed was Atlantic City finest,
24:57
perfect done. Stamped.
25:02
That. I mean, so Nadia and Lazo is
25:05
just gold. That Matt himself is obsessed
25:08
with that rhinestone jacket. It's so good.
25:12
I was trying to find a good photo but I couldn't find one,
25:14
but it's so good. It's great.
25:16
He even wore it for our like, marketing Stills.
25:20
It's so heavy, but it's stretchy and its really comfortable.
25:23
And as soon as he put it on, he just kind of, you know, when he
25:25
likes something he has these little moves that he does.
25:28
And even this season he was like who, but we still have that
25:31
jacket right? Right?
25:37
It's so good. And then, yeah, for the rest of
25:40
the cast, I don't think Charmaine has ever worn
25:42
anything. That's not a leopard print that
25:45
was just established for season. It was leopard on Leopard on
25:47
Leopard and so we just lean in really hard into the animal
25:51
print for her so good. I was laughing the entire time
25:55
and like you and I had just spoken the week before and I was
25:59
like, oh my gosh, like, I can't believe that we already did the
26:01
interview because If they want to do it all over again,
26:03
centered around this episode that's you're going to feel that
26:08
way after you see some of the I don't know what number it is
26:12
that I mean this podcast is airing and you will have seen
26:14
all of them but I have a personal favorite episode and
26:17
that's the commander joining the cult and wait until you see it,
26:21
guys. It's like it's beyond.
26:24
Oh my gosh. Don't say that to me right now.
26:26
I'm gonna I'm gonna be okay. I'm just upset again.
26:31
It's a costume. Dream like we can't keep making
26:35
you duties podcast with it. You'll just get an email from
26:40
us. Once again, I don't have better
26:43
things to do, so I'm another character that gets quite the
26:49
Wardrobe. Upgrade is Guillermo his little,
26:52
like, security detail suits and the bandolier, I'm just like, oh
26:57
my gosh, he's getting way too into this.
27:00
I love it. All you still work.
27:02
With Harvey is great because she always has really good ideas as
27:05
well and he'll know, kind of like just how to pinch and style
27:09
things but with him it was introducing the waistcoat, which
27:12
you've never done before. So he's has one in the wool and
27:16
he has one in leather, which is a little bit tougher.
27:18
And that one has the bandolier that goes across the back, which
27:21
is removable. He has a cargo pant that tucks
27:24
into his boot now. So it's like we need cargo, it
27:27
goes into a combat and the glitz little Starling things like he's
27:31
got his glove. Love's, which there's something
27:33
really creepy about a glove and a rolled up sleeve, right?
27:37
And it's very tough, like when he does that kind of Parkour
27:40
thing and he flips himself into the air Dock, and he's got his
27:43
sleeves rolled up in his gloves on.
27:46
I, I love that look, but I guess that's not true.
27:49
I never thought about that. Like a rolled up sleeve and a
27:51
glove like that just says, serial killer to me, I know his
27:55
business, I love that. He's like, he has like that hard
27:59
Van Helsing vampire Hunter athletic, but Unlike the first
28:03
episode, he's still wearing his fuzzy sweater as he's cutting, a
28:06
burger with a fork and knife like we still like that cuddly
28:09
Guillermo in there, just like when he's, you know, when he's
28:13
not on job, I guess that's what that there were.
28:16
They shot a lot for that scene. And I watched it so many times
28:21
because it just yeah, the knife and the fork and then he has his
28:24
drink and he has the little straw and it's just so like
28:28
small and precise and it's just a very sweet.
28:32
Eat. It's fine.
28:35
Dining, another excellent scene is vampiric Council handing out,
28:42
Justice and style. I loved about the white robes
28:45
were back. How it, like, how much fun did
28:48
you have making this? They look so good in white.
28:51
Oh, thanks. Harvey.
28:53
Had the best when we are fitting his robe.
28:55
I think he said, he'd heard it from Jennifer Aniston.
28:58
He said, if it's white, make it tight, That's like good and no,
29:06
that's great. Yeah, it was just it was a lot
29:09
of fun because we didn't have to do the council.
29:12
Like the dancer I was we knew we were going to use the dancer
29:14
robes that have been worn in season 1 by purse, like, taken
29:19
Jemaine and Johnny and all of the other Superstar vampires who
29:23
I, we never got to meet actually.
29:26
Oh no, no, that was all it's edited seamlessly but Basically,
29:32
except for the three vampires from the movie, all of the super
29:36
famous ones, they should just shock them against like a green
29:40
screen, and then they pop them in.
29:42
So, when we shot, it is one of my favorite things of, like, all
29:45
time. It's so good.
29:48
I have yet to touch Tilda Swinton.
29:50
I'm still waiting anyways. It just broke my heart.
29:57
Yeah, don't think less of me. No no, no.
30:02
I have like this weird fantasy of all these like vampire
30:05
Avengers in the same room together?
30:08
Yes. No, it was all.
30:10
I think they did their own little bit separately but you
30:13
could never tell it was great. And I love nausea and and ORS.
30:18
Robes this year, because again, they feel kind of like personal
30:21
to them. Did you make them a little bit
30:24
different from the other ones? Yeah, definitely.
30:27
So we had thankfully, we had all the fabric left over because we
30:30
had to buy like hundreds and hundreds of yards.
30:32
As of all this different white, your card, and so foreign, and
30:35
oars, and Nadia's both it was, you know, because they were
30:39
getting them, custom made by the race, I figured, okay, they
30:42
would probably give them some, maybe the race would read their
30:44
minds, or maybe they would be able to collaborate on the
30:47
design. So for nand, or it was, you
30:49
know, giving him that good strong shoulder that he likes
30:52
with the cape and there's a lot of hand embroidery on it and the
30:57
beaded, like the crystal beading as well.
30:59
We did that by hand and for Nadia Is doing her, beautiful
31:03
sleeve. Incorporating the cape, I love
31:06
the tassels or made by hand. We have an amazing textile
31:09
artist. Metal is Brian.
31:10
Who does she makes beaded ridicules?
31:13
So she did a lot of the beating and embroidery and for not it
31:17
was just a mix of like she gets her big sleeve.
31:20
I started I found some images of those the Chinese Cloud callers.
31:23
So I really liked that idea for for the Yoke of her garment.
31:29
And then we did a new version. We have that computer Here at
31:32
Council the V symbol which you see the dancers wear them as
31:36
pendants. It was actually painted on the
31:38
floor as well in the first season and that symbol comes up
31:41
a lot, but guide, where is it? She's got a little stick pin of
31:45
the V when she is not in Council and when they're having their
31:50
like in 305 and they have their Council meetings, she has a
31:54
larger one, which is based on the order of Merit, it's the V
31:57
that's put on a ribbon. And so we did like a gold-toned
32:01
V. Symbol for where these robes and
32:04
Gamma has it as well. On the, on the corner there.
32:07
It's going to see it. I love it, though.
32:09
That's such a cool little note. Now, it's going to stick out to
32:12
me. So then also we have a return
32:15
character Derek. I love his outfit because it is
32:18
very like Hot Topic. I know because I shop at Hot
32:22
Topic, but then also, like, I feel like he just watched like
32:25
Interview with a Vampire or something, so, he's like, that's
32:27
just what you wear. And like, he just picked
32:30
anything. He felt like with similar to
32:32
that, That in a Hot Topic, he was, he was our first fitting of
32:36
the Season actually, and he was so much fun.
32:40
I was sketching out his costume because we built the jacket
32:44
because there were a few considerations.
32:45
Like he had to because he gets burned in the well of sunlight
32:49
later, he had to be it have some of his arms exposed.
32:53
So I wanted the length of that kind of like blade jacket.
32:58
It's a good way to put it. Yeah.
33:00
And but without this lie, Lives. And we actually had to make two
33:03
of them because there was a stunt where he gets dragged and
33:06
so we wanted to be able to have a double for the stunts in case
33:09
something happened to it. But it was just, I mean, this
33:12
show because it's such a ridiculous show and it's a
33:15
comedy you can kind of throw all of the details that things and
33:19
it doesn't get over the top like who would want to put gold
33:23
buttons and a shiny leather and then add red piping and
33:26
epaulettes like every stupid detail and a I'll shirt and but
33:33
it's not a long sleeve, you know?
33:35
So we, you know, the short sleeve and then the plaid pants,
33:37
and I just had so much fun even sketching out his costume.
33:40
I was laughing as I was doing it and just like making it more and
33:44
more. So that I gave him a skull
33:46
topped cane at one point. I just didn't work with the
33:50
manacles but he was. And that his second look to is
33:53
really. That was where we got a little
33:55
bit like Bram Stoker's Dracula. He had the glasses and the top
33:58
pad and yes Totally. And I love the little race and
34:06
their little costumes too. I believe they say, they were
34:09
two helmets just to make them look scarier, which is
34:11
hilarious. But I'm obsessive those little
34:14
guys also, well, thanks, you have those?
34:17
They cast dancers and so you might if you watching and you'll
34:21
notice they're kind of in the background doing these acrobatic
34:24
things like when they're when Nadia and laws or getting not
34:27
even and or getting fitted for their robes, one of them is
34:30
doing a back bridge with a pin cushion.
34:32
A on her stomach. Just like, walking through the
34:34
frame. It's so good.
34:39
So ends up being a lawyer for like a hot.
34:42
Second fails miserably, but it was still hilarious.
34:46
And I love his idea. What a lawyer looks like, like,
34:48
of course, this is what he would wear, what a British Barrister.
34:54
It's so funny to me the wig the boat just everything's right.
34:59
Everything's perfect. One of my favorite like Anthony
35:02
who plays Sean Anthony at a manic is so funny and he comes
35:07
in and he's like, you know, regular guy lovely person.
35:11
He puts on the Sean costumes, which are, you know, just kind
35:15
of like, not the ugliest clothing, we can find but pretty
35:18
much and he looks at it, he's like, Yep, this is great.
35:24
He goes over to take the photo and then he kind of he gets in
35:27
the pose, which is, you know, he'll pull this, this kind of
35:30
lunches over and he screws. Is up his face or like okay
35:33
there Sean. And for this I just felt like
35:38
the slicked hair and yeah, Sean is a lot of fun actually, so
35:42
hilarious. So at the time of this
35:44
recording, we've only seen about a little over half the season.
35:48
So I don't really know what's coming up next but we know it's
35:51
going to be really awesome. I will say we just saw episode 6
35:55
and when I pulled the bearing out of the ground, I was like
35:58
please. Let's get some like Baron robes,
36:00
haven't seen it yet but Hoping they like, give him like some
36:04
fake body. So I could see his costumes.
36:06
She's, I'm reading her face. She's like, mmm, no, no, maybe
36:11
maybe that would happen in a late.
36:13
Everyone loves the baron. Everyone loves Doug Jones, maybe
36:16
in a future season. Okay.
36:18
I'm Gonna Keep Holding On To hope before we let you go.
36:23
This to off-the-cuff questions. Are you a horror fan?
36:27
Like when you came into this to do like horror or did it just
36:30
kind of you're just going with it?
36:32
It I wouldn't say I'm not a huge horror fan.
36:37
I've always been into like if its gory no thank you but I've
36:41
always been really into vampires in terms of the scary stuff that
36:45
was never really my bag but vampire movies always and things
36:50
like like Buffy level of. Yeah that's that's about my
36:56
speed Human Centipede kind of things.
36:59
No, not for me. That's fair like Plastics or
37:04
movies like you know, Rosemary's Baby anything, you know if it if
37:07
it looks good I will definitely watch it and of course interview
37:11
with him but Empire the hunger all of those really amazing
37:14
classic vampire things. Yeah we're big a partner, it's
37:18
over here. We just watched Bram Stoker's
37:21
Dracula, a couple episodes back and or maybe it was last episode
37:25
and we absolutely loved it Elizabeth.
37:28
You know it's one of her favorites.
37:30
Eiko is Is. I mean, it's the Pinnacle of
37:34
costuming, I think. Yeah.
37:36
So and it's so unexpected. What she does with those
37:40
costumes are still be and then like, we could have a whole
37:43
podcast. I'm sure about the cell.
37:45
Her work is just so beautiful. It is.
37:48
And so unique, like, it looks like her work, you always know
37:50
it's hers but if it's the story so well.
37:54
Yeah, truly it's really beautiful.
37:56
Really inspiring last random question.
37:59
We have a friend. Well, you know, if we'll use
38:01
this on the podcast, We have a friend who's working really hard
38:05
to be nausea for Halloween but she's kind of stuck.
38:08
Any like tips from the pro herself?
38:11
Well, what she stuck on? Probably the beginning probably
38:17
where to get everything. The tips I've seen, I mean the
38:22
Fabrics she does a lot of printed fabric.
38:25
So if you, I would say if she was black as a base, a black
38:28
skirt with a petticoat. So you want a petticoat under
38:30
the skirt to get the Illness of the skirt.
38:33
We don't usually we don't course it Natasha just because you
38:38
know, it's uncomfortable we don't have to she's a vampire.
38:41
It's 2021 she can do whatever she wants, she probably lost the
38:44
course it a long time ago. If she does a like a black skirt
38:50
and big shoulders in terms of the hair.
38:54
Nadia has two wigs. That I think are great.
38:57
There's what are they called? There's something Kitty and
39:02
Kitty. Okay.
39:04
Well I'll have to look that up. I can't remember the person
39:08
because we when she has the two buns on her head, right?
39:11
Kind of braid buns. It's like the inverse.
39:13
Princess Leia buns. Yeah.
39:16
And the one that she wears for the First Council, where the
39:19
it's like two horns on her head, with the long curls, that's what
39:22
that wig is called horny Kitty freely.
39:27
So if she did horny Kitty with big shoulders, High neckline,
39:33
which were starting to modify a little bit.
39:35
You'll see that in 310. We open up her neckline.
39:38
Very exciting. I know how so scandalous.
39:44
A lots of rings, big, gold earrings, perfect taking notes
39:49
for her. Well, Laura, this is been so
39:53
much fun. We're at the end, just like any
39:56
parting words. I know you're coming back for
39:57
season 4, so I'm really excited to see what you have coming up.
40:02
Future. Oh, thanks.
40:03
Are we just finished shooting our first week?
40:06
And so, yeah, I'm a little, I'm a little bit, kind of days from
40:13
from this page will be back for the first week.
40:15
But no, you guys have to let me know what you think of the last
40:18
four episodes of the Season. I'm dying to see the cult
40:21
episode. I haven't seen it yet.
40:23
I saw the dailies and we were shooting it, but I'm really
40:25
excited to see how it comes together.
40:27
One of my absolute absolute favorite guest stars is in it.
40:31
I was a huge fan of her, the show that she was on when I was
40:36
younger and my gosh, don't do this to me because she is a
40:40
superstar like I don't know, I was fangirling out over her big
40:44
time and she she does a really good job but foot not fair.
40:48
I should just pause the interview and then we'll just
40:50
like it. Leave the file and we'll come
40:51
back in a couple weeks. Well, thank you so much.
40:56
This is been so much fun. Thanks, this was such a tree.
41:00
I love getting to here. All that behind the scenes and
41:04
disease has been so much fun and the costumes make it all the
41:08
better. I so agree.
41:11
We'll have to have you back next season like for sure anytime I
41:16
love to die with, I'm a huge fan to so when I get to talk about
41:20
the show, it's great, amazing. Well thank you, thank you.
41:45
That was so much fun. I love getting to talk to her.
41:48
Oh my gosh, I am obsessive Laura Montgomery.
41:51
She's just so cool. She's so cool.
41:53
She's so sweet. And I love the like all these
41:57
little details she's adding to each of the characters.
42:00
I feel like just every season And she's like, okay I'm here to
42:04
kick it up a notch, right? It's just like such Pinnacle
42:08
like storytelling through costume designing too because
42:10
you know, I feel like regular people who aren't like obsessive
42:14
costume design like us, they watch the show and I just see,
42:17
like three traditional vampires, you know, and then Colin
42:21
Robinson, but then like we see like, oh, like Laszlo has this
42:25
Victorian influence. Victorian ish, as Laura said,
42:29
are like in Andorra has like that, Iranian Roots, you know,
42:33
type to it. So, it's like I love all those
42:35
little details. I think it's so cool.
42:37
I agree. I think it's amazing.
42:40
And I, especially nand, or I loved her talking about his, you
42:44
know, Middle Eastern, Iranian influences.
42:47
Because I'm real like that, just like it gives you so much more
42:49
depth to the character, right? And then when it's converted
42:52
into like that white vampiric Council robes were like you
42:56
still see like the influence in their robes you know the first
42:59
time you see it you just see white robes and assume they all.
43:02
They're all the same but they're not.
43:03
They're tailored to their character which is so cool.
43:06
I'm so glad she's on season four to.
43:08
I can't wait to see what's next. She keeps teasing us even during
43:12
the break she was given us some like low key details.
43:15
And I'm like, can I have to sit on this for entire year?
43:20
I was like I can't wait that long come on and season for
43:24
coming out. Christmas 2021 I would like to
43:27
see it need to know this information.
43:32
Well, this is so much fun, and, you know, this is ending our
43:36
spooky season, so we're going forward, you know, you and I
43:40
still have a Halloween party coming up this weekend.
43:42
So do we did over for us but over for you guys via podcast, a
43:48
spooky season is coming to a close.
43:52
I'm not quite ready to leave spooky season though.
43:55
And in my mind, sci-fi is the next best thing.
43:59
Right? Next week, we're watching.
44:02
First element, Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Spencer's, favorite
44:07
movie, this is, you know, side from Lord of the Rings because I
44:12
don't consider that one movie. That's three, great.
44:14
Brilliant movies, that make the ultimate best movie, The Fifth
44:18
Element. This is the Standalone greatest
44:20
movie of all time. In my opinion, I love that
44:22
movie, so good, and it is just the greatest costume design.
44:27
It is incredible. I I'm so excited.
44:31
I I can't wait for this episode to come out.
44:34
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