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EP 44 | They Took A Brand New Caravan on the Gibb River Road · Off Grid Down Under by MDC

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_06: In the middle of the tunnel, it's completely black like darkness.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_06: If you turn your torch off, you can't see a single thing.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_06: You're not looking at the red dirt and the white sand and the blue water, and you see it in a photo, it looks like that in real life.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_04: So, what you're saying is you don't have to laugh at it.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_04: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Off-Grid Down on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_04: Today, joining me as three people everyone must know by now.
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  SPEAKER_04: Illustrious Wayne Chevist on the end there.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Steve.
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  SPEAKER_04: In all his bearded glory, Rolly Heath.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Steve.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_04: Plenty of bearded glory, and the lovely Mandy Heath.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_06: Thanks for having us back.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_04: Two of our most accomplished travelling MDC owners, I think, in history.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_04: And you guys have been so busy.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having us back.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: And been doing a little bit since we last spoke with you.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_04: Last time you're on the show, you're literally about to leave.
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  SPEAKER_04: The van was brand new.
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  SPEAKER_04: The gold class.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: And you had your route all mapped out, rarer and a go.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_04: How was it?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_04: It was unreal.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_06: It was.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_06: It was so good.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: The best time, like you think people post holidays at like overseas, the male dives, which is like it's pretty, but when you're travelling and getting to a destination, you just pull up after day and you can look out the water and just light a fire, crack a beer, and go, how good is this?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nothing better.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: How's the serenity?
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we did just under 13,000 kilometres from when we last spoke to you guys.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, straight up the guts of Queensland, across the territory in a big hurry, and then took our time getting through the WA like side of the border to Broome and then worked your way back.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_04: That's right, because you're heading across to meet uh B and Chris at Daily Waters.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was an interesting night, as they always are.
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  SPEAKER_04: First night of Eva.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_04: Margarita's work.
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  SPEAKER_04: For those of you that haven't met B, she is brand new.
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  SPEAKER_04: She is a personality to behold, and so much fun.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And Chris is a great guy.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_04: They've we've travelled with them and been to a lot of events with them, and and they're very central uh to the MDC community.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_06: And we had a little Freckle fart along for the ride as well.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_06: So Freckle is better give him a mention.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_04: Now you've got to share the story about how they how they entertain Freckle when they go out.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yes.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, so when um when when B needs to go out and Chris isn't home to babysit Freckle, they put our YouTube episodes on and Freckle sits on the couch and watches us.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_06: And it's so funny when we do see him in person because Rolly talks and he just like looks and runs up to him like, I know you, I know you.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_04: You ought to talk about a close-knit community.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it doesn't get any more business.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, when your dogs like you know when your dogs know the voices, it's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, you headed off uh Lake Argyll, Bungle Bungles, Broom, Gibb, Cunanara.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we did it all.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: We we crammed, we were six weeks, and um the first main stop was Lake Argyll, which we hired a Barbie boat, took the dog out with us as well, and spent the day on the lake exploring, um, barbecuing.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: We may have had a couple of beverages while we're exploring as well.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um swimming with the crocodiles.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, did you fly the Jolly Roger?
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_04: It would have been applicable.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_06: Actually, we we did a reel to um what's the song from uh Gilligan's Island?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_06: Gilligan's Island, yeah.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, yes.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so not friggin' in the riggin.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and from there we went to the Bungle Bungles, which we did the helicopter flight over because we've done the walks in before, and we thought we'll we'll treat ourselves because we don't have the boys with us, we'll do the helicopter, which was unreal.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like seeing it all from the sky makes it look even more spectacular when you walk through it.
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  SPEAKER_04: It is a breathtaking landscape, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you just had to remind yourself that you were actually looking at it because you're like up high in the helicopter and you're looking down, and you could be mistaken, you're just looking at a photo, and it's like, oh no, hang on, I'm actually looking at it.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_06: Like it was just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, incredible experience.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, did it all go to plan or did it take on its own life as you travelled?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we we we pretty much went to plan.
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  SPEAKER_02: We just had to chop and change because it was the times where no one was traveling much because of the price of fuel.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the first like half of the trip we didn't see too many other travellers, and the campgrounds were empty, so we could just do what we wanted to.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: Even a broom was quite quiet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then once we started heading across the gib back, it started picking up a bit more, you know, get a bit busy at the campgrounds.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: But it pretty much all went to plan, and then we had a few days where we just knew we'll have these up our sleeve to do extras that we wanted to do, and we we fitted in pretty well.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like we got to the Han River camp and we thought we'll stay here for a few more days because it's quite nice and we could do that, so yeah.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: Just on that, a bit you said some a lot of the places were very quiet.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_04: Do you think the current fuel and economic uh climate has kept a few people from travelling?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_06: I think so.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think at that time it did, and then it started getting busier again.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, but at that original start of our trip, it was very quiet, and it was definitely the fuel prices because we were paying like fuel stations where we'd paid previously maybe two dollars a litre, we were paying three three twenty a litre.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, but we planned that we thought we're gonna go anyway, support these communities, they need us there, they need the travellers and everyone to come through and and spend their money because that that's what they rely on, and we were just happy in the end to go, okay, it's gonna be what it is, and just do it.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, well, you yeah, you're there, yeah.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_04: It's you know, it costs more to pull the pin and go home than it does to continue on, in for a penny, in for a pound, they say.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_06: It is what it is, just carry on.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_04: So when like heading there, what were the highlights getting uh there?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_06: Like if you had to pick two or three absolute must-do's I would say James Price Point 100%.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_06: Um, because we did this route with our boys, but we didn't actually stay at James Price Point itself.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_06: Um we stayed at Quandong Point, which is just south of there.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um but no, that you just come up over that hill and that red, like you've seen photos of it, it's like such a contrast, like the red dirt and the white sand and the blue water, and you see it in a photo, it looks like that in real life.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_06: It is just such a pretty photos don't do it.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it's a free camp, so you can just pull up, light a fire, and you can be there for I think it's seven days, something like that.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, really good spot.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_06: And bless you, wait.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Luckily enough, travelling in the vans that we travel in off grid of like we can just pull up there and not have to any any worries, like the beer's still cold on the fourth day.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: We could run the run the air con during the day if Mandy needed to have a quick nap because she had too many margaritas the night before.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that's beats up.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: It is it is one of those beautiful spots of the world, and that's as you know, that's where I met my wife.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_04: So it's funny at Lake Argo.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_04: It's funny how you mentioned that, say run the air conditioning because Mandy might have a headache.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: Compare how far that's come from your trip around Australia with a soft floor.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, and three kids.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_06: If you have a headache, it's just to suck it up, mother cover and carry on.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_06: There's no rest for the wicked when you've got three of them in tow.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_04: But in terms of comfort, so that over the over the seven years I've known you guys, that is like what you've gone through.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Come leaps and bounds the whole industry compared to where it used to be, like swags, tents, trailer tents, and then you know the MDC brought out the first hybrid, which was like complete luxury, to now like we're travelling the gold class AC 17, which is just total luxury.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it is it is pretty special.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's well, I'm gonna have to have a word to Vaughan because now Mandy won't take anything less.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so I don't want to give Goldie back, I've named her, so I think that means something when you name something.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_04: That's mine now.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_04: You might be fostering, but once once you give the dog a name, it's it's got a name.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you had three nights in broom before hitting the dirt.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: And what was what did you get up to in broom?
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_04: How'd you prepare the the van before sort of pointing it at the grip?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_06: We had a lovely long lunch at one of the breweries there, didn't we?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_06: There's a theme going on here, I think.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_06: Benefacts, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nice beer.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was lovely.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_06: So yeah, that was to take freckle in there, so be and Chris were happy to spend uh spend a few beers there.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we had a bit of a bit of a maintenance issue with our car.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: We had a flat battery, so I had to do a battery change out in Broom.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: But for the van, like we've done lots of dirt roads and and rough roads with our previous vans, and we had you know all the confidence in the world that this van was going to handle it the same.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it was pretty much a good look over, make sure wheel nuts are tight, bearings were right, um, brakes were adjusted right, and you know, I gave the seals a wipe over some silicon spray, and off we went.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pretty much that was it.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_04: And I guess with with the the amount of travel you've done and experience, it just gets uh easier every time, uh, doesn't it?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_06: It just becomes habit, really.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it becomes part of your pack up.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_04: You kind of just do a few little extra things as you're packing up because you know you're heading off, so yeah, just it's got it's got to be better being elite at off-road camping than being an elite athlete.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think so.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: What you can eat and drink as an elite camper is a completely different, more enjoyable diet.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll we were hanging tomahawk steaks on the side of the Han River cooking up, and we had like fancy bottles of wine.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: We called it our fancy night dinner.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: We set our table, we had fairy lights going between the two vans, and we sat under the table with gum leaves hanging off the side of it, and bottles of wine in wine chillers and yeah, no sausage hangers in our camp, that's for sure.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um and like we ate like kings that night and and drank like them for a little bit too.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_04: But so what you're saying is you don't have to rough it.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, definitely not.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_04: Never these days, never these days.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_04: I I can't remember the last time I roughed it camping.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I really can't.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: I genuinely have memory of that.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_04: So it's yeah, it's a whole lifestyle change when you get into uh uh well-equipped off-road caravans, and it's something to experience, and even if you don't have previous experience or a family, family legacy of caravanning, people like Rolly and Mandy and other people in the MDC community, which we have access to through the owner groups, we are all going to help you through transitioning and getting into that journey yourself because we were all back there once upon a time where we didn't know anything.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, and back then we probably didn't have much help.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, and that's a lot of my stuff's all self-taught because there wasn't anyone to help, you know, so you just worked it out yourself as you went along and you put them in the memory bank and you continue growing that memory bank on what you need to do, so yeah.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_04: And that's that's the way you can teach your kids critical thinking, problem solving out on the road, camping, away from there's no Kmart or you know McDonald's, McDonald's or anything.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_04: You have to figure out how to eat, yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_04: So that's that's a skill every young child should grow up with, and I think Gen X was probably the last generation to grow up free late free range having to work everything out as they went.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Look, us millennials that grew up in the territory were pretty free.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, well that's different.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: That's different, like yeah, you know.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: I was nearly 30 when I got my first Xbox, so yeah.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's fair.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's that's how it is.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_04: So you've done the gib before, uh, you know, back in 2017 what it was was the kids with a soft floor.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: How did it feel second time around with a bigger bigger van, the latest in technology and four-wheel drive?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_04: How was it this time?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_06: Really nice to revisit some of those places we went with the kids.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_06: Like that was fun going back to those places and just remembering them being there.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but yeah, definitely going from the soft floor to the gold class was a couple of steps up, just with the convenience, like pull up, Rolly press a button, and it's leveled.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_06: Um, like with the soft floor, you had to find absolutely level ground to get your tent out and make everyone comfortable.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_06: So the boys swear motors.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_06: So the boys aren't like sleeping in a hole because they were on the floor in their swags.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and yeah, just everything is at your fingertips in these vans.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_06: It's just all never packing up with wet canvas.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_06: Ever again.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: But even like your lunch stops, you just pull up and manny jump inside and I do me a little walk around, and 10 minutes she'd be back outside with like chicken strips done out in the air fryer and no wraps for lunch, and off we go again.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was just can be so easy.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's rough.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's terrible.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's the hard line.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Don't tell anyone we do have an air fryer.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, don't.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't like to admit that.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and if we're making you jealous at home, you should be.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_04: But remember, you can do this too.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_04: You just gotta want it.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_04: So, what are the must stop places along the Gibb?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_04: Where do you absolutely think everyone should stop and check it out?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_06: Tunnel Creek is just amazing.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_06: It was one of um Jackson's favourite places when we took them around.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_06: Um, because it's it's an adventure to get in there, like you have to walk up and over boulders and like you're crouching down, and there's water, and then there's no water, and you know, freshwater crocodiles.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_06: There's crocodiles in the water, and then at one point in the middle of the tunnel, it's completely black, like darkness.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_06: If you turn your torch off, you can't see a single thing.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_06: So it's um, yeah, definitely not for the faint-hearted, I suppose.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_06: Like I've heard people have had panic attacks in the middle of it because you know they're thinking, Oh my god, there's a crocodile and it's dark and I can't see.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_06: But yeah, we just love that adventurous stuff.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_04: I've seen people have those panic attacks over the glow worms and the glow worm tone.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_04: Same sort of thing.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_04: Freshwater crocodiles aren't too bad, especially if you're feeling snacky.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you stand on them, they but yeah, they're fine.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: At at Lake Argyle, I don't think I obviously, you know, you know where I grew up in Kakadu, there's some big saltwater crocodiles up there, and I don't think I've ever seen freshwater crocodiles as big as I did.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's some big ones in there.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, massive.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: There was a three-meter one actually at Fruit Bat Falls once.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_04: They had to shoe it away.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_04: At the beginning of the season, of course.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_06: Well, if you can shoe them away, they're salty.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_04: And then I think the the same year there was a um olive python that was even bigger.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: It was just, yeah, it's incredible what you see out in the tracks and around water.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_04: So, did anything go sideways?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_04: Any creek crossings, mud, bogs mechanically, other than the battery?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_06: No, it was uh all pretty good.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um we had like the first half of the road was pretty good, um, and then the second half was pretty bad.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like they'd had a heap of rain, and people had been driving on the road, which made it really rutted, and then after we got through that bit, it was real quite rocky and dusty and and a lot of corrugations.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: But um, it was just the usual, let the tires down, drive to conditions.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I I played with the airbag system on the van a bit just to to see for myself how it worked, and dropped a few PSI out, added a few PSI just to see how it handled, and sort of come to a conclusion that if you knock a couple of PSI out of the airbags, it did ride better, and you just had to adjust your driving to it.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if that's a a thing that you should do or not, but I just wanted to play with it for my own interests, and yeah, so well that's the thing with any any off-road driving.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_04: If you're getting into the rough stuff, lower and and slower.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so you lower your tire pressures.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_04: Obviously, in this case, it was also airbag pressures, so you allow for for more fluid travel of of the suspension, lengthen the footprint of your tire and on your car, and you do that and combine various speeds until it feels comfortable.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so if your teeth aren't falling out of your head, you're probably not rattling bolts out of your equipment, which is yeah, it's a smart way to do it.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_04: So, like traveling west to east from Broom to Cunanura, is that the right way direction to do it?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's the right way, but we just like we wanted to make like the end of the trip something special, so we knew we'd end up at El Cuestro station, which is quite you know iconic.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's got some beautiful walks.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_06: It's like a little oasis.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: The waterfalls being through and we did a big dinner at the steakhouse there, which was quite um elaborate.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but but we thought that can be the finish because otherwise, if we went all the way across and then you got to broom and then you got to drive all the way back home, yeah.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's sort of like you lose that bit of a shine off the end of the trip.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: So we thought we'd get to Cunningar, I get to like uh El Cuestro, finish the trip sort of roughly there, and you know, we wake make our way home.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: But then we'd had such a good time that me and Chris and us travelled together pretty much all the way back to Julia Creek before we had to split off our different ways.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it um it was really that would keep it entertaining.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, it was awesome.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_04: There's not a quiet night in there at all, I would imagine.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: We had a few quieter nights because the time change sort of mucked us up, but like we're gonna be able to do that once we got into a time, broom time is amazing.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_06: I'd uh I'd move to broom just for broom time, it's so chill over there.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_06: It is that kind of place, isn't it?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_04: It's a beautiful little spot of the world as well.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and the fishing is amazing.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_04: You'd yeah, you'd never get me to stop fishing long enough to do anything else other than sleep and eat the fish.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, oh absolutely magic.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_04: Now, the big question, you left for this trip in a brand new gold class, AC 17C.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_04: And what do you think about a larger van off-road on tracks like you did, like the Gibb River Road and whatnot?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_04: How do you how suited was it?
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was worried, like that's what the whole it was good that we could do the testing because we've always had a hybrid and I've always wanted the pop-top because we like to go to remote camp spots and I thought a high van would hinder that.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: But we got into like some pretty tight spots on creeks and camped and without too much drama at all.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like it wasn't us thinking like, oh, we're too high, we're gonna it's just like I just watched that low branch there, and you look at it and like oh no, we got under it, no worries at all.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just yeah, it didn't really hinder it at all.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: So to my like I was really concerned about that and yeah, it didn't bother at all.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: That was that was one of the reasons that you bought your XL 15E wasn't want the high clearance and yeah, the too much length.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_06: And we weren't sure whether we were ready for a full van, so it was just yeah, so nice of it after it.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_06: Then we were able to take Goldie for the ultimate test home and um just try her out, I suppose, to see if we were ready.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_06: So yeah.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_04: But that's that's the journey for many people though, is those stepping stones from either a soft floor, hard floor, then a hybrid, and then once fallen in love with the lifestyle and able to you know boot the kids out of the van, go into something a little bit more mum and dad focused, and really enjoy it.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: And and it really does make a difference because look, let's face it, some days are a bit long, and any road like the g the Gibb, the level of concentration, watching out for sharp things, yeah, watching out for lunatics in plenty of those in GQ patrols coming the other way.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, it it's tiring, but uh finish at the end of the day comfortable.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_04: Now you've got a beautiful bed, air conditioning, easy to cook, yeah, it just makes a huge difference.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it does make a big difference, especially on them travel days where you are doing the miles.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: You can just pull up and you don't even have to set up outside, you can just walk inside.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: You've got you know, induction cook top to cook on, you've got microwaves, you know, sit on the lounge and watch TV if you want.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, and that's it.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_04: There's I guess there's a line where it it it feels like an endurance event and then it crosses over into a touring event.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I'm I'm sure there was days that the soft floor felt like an endurance event.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yes.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_06: There were days when it's like you go to bed and you're like, oh, we have to pack up tomorrow, like, oh, and you just like not sleep because you're just thinking about the next day.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, it's good.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_04: I and it it's it's been fun to to bear witness to that change in the lifestyle of not only for yourselves, but all of us.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_04: I remember the early days with MDCs, you go off and you know, the travel was a four-wheel drive action trip with a hard floor, and it was just go, go, go all day.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_04: You've got six minutes to get that set up before we lose the light.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay, let's cook dinner, eat, do a cooking segment, all right, pack up, go to bed.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_04: No thanks.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_04: Not anymore.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_04: So Raleigh, you did you did your homework on the airbag suspension.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_04: Obviously, we're fortunate enough to have the expertise of of Mark with the airbag man suspension and that.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_04: How did you find that overall?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_04: Everything from undulating road bends uphill, downhill, I think it would be better, actually.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: It really surprised me.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it would have been a lot like a lot more movement because I know when we went from leaf springs to coil.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like you have that little bit of a rock in them with independent suspension.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought the airbags may have been a little bit different again, but it seemed to ride really good.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: And like as you know, coming up through central Queensland, there's a lot of whoop-de-doos and melonhole country, and you do hit a lot of them that come up quite quickly, and it just sort of followed along behind it, just rode the the um the road pretty well.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: So and knowing the corrugations, I reckon, yeah, if anyone's looking at airbags for their caravan, it's I reckon it's gotta be 100% better than anything else out there to handle the corrugations because we'd even leave like we'd leave stuff on the bed or a computer on the bench and just pull up and nothing, nothing would move.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: It was just yeah, we thought, oh, we've got to do this, we've got to do this.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: We keep forgetting to prep like cupboards and stuff, and we'd we'd never turn the dust reduction fan on because we're not used to having it because our previous fans had always been so good with the dust sealing, so we never turned that on, we had no dust, and we we didn't get in that routine where most people do okay, I've got to pack this way tightly, I've got to you know make sure everything's tied down because we never had to worry about it, and we still don't have to because it nothing like moved.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think Mandy left a jar of um sesame oil on the kitchen bench that fell off, so that was it.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it was sitting on top of the kitchen bench.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_06: It's my fault because it didn't move away.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_04: Well, next I was gonna ask you that like obviously you've had the XL uh 15 previously, and what was the difference?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_04: I think you've probably explained the difference very, very well.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's plush, yeah.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_04: I guess it's like small plane travel at low altitude versus 36,000 feet smooth as silk.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, and that's a good way to put it.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_04: More legroom.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_04: Definitely rightfully so.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: Raleigh was worried you wouldn't go back to a hybrid after this.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's gonna be a bit hard, I reckon.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_06: So we may have to have a few discussions.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: I think pressure may be brought to bear.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think so.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: You know, just remember what he drinks.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, go for the week, mate.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_04: Horov horizontal fall seaplane, right?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: You've wanted to do this since 2017 lap, and I think uh it wasn't in the budget back then.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: Now, what was it like doing at this time?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: Give us the give us the oil, the good and the bad.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: It was the best.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_06: It was absolutely the best day, yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_06: Just the flight over, even like it was a two-hour flight to get there.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, it was an hour there and an hour 45 back, I think.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they cut straight across the Derby Sound to get there, and then we followed the coastline home that afternoon with the sunset was unreal.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: But just what you fly over, you see, and you can understand the magnitudes of them tides up there, like that big floodway, it just the way the water moves, it's like crazy.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then when we landed, and that's the first time we've both been on a seaplane.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Landed on the water, and you they pulled up and we were straight on the boats, like there's no one here, this hardly ever happens.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get you on the boats and get you over there, and we were there for a good 45 minutes before any other boats come near us.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_06: I think we went back and forward through that gap probably ten times, and it was so much fun.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_06: But oh, you had to hang on to everything, like we're worried we're gonna drop our phone overboard trying to film and hang on, and it gets quite bumpy in the middle.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: The force of that water, it's yeah, and but even once we settle down and stopped doing the you know the extreme rushes going through the falls, and you sort of toured around the outsides and looked at the cave systems and like the waterways, it was unreal.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_06: Like, and our guide was very knowledgeable, wasn't he?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_06: He had a lot of information um and it was a lot of fun, like it wasn't boring.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_06: He was just yeah, it was just a really good day.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_06: And we had a beautiful feed of barramundi and salad back on the boat, and then we actually went swimming with sharks.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_06: So you're in like a little cage, and they they bring the um sharks into the cage, and you can like look at them through the cage, don't nurse sharks.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: But we did have one bull shark beside you when you're gonna be able to do it.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you're not welcoming, yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's one of them things I'd say, like there's iconic place places for people to go to in Australia.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: You've got Cape York, Airs Rock, um, like Steep Point, Western Australia, places like that.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: This is definitely one of them places put on your list.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, it's you if you can get there and afford to do it, definitely do it because it's yeah, it's a hundred percent worth every cent you spend.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: That entire northwest region is filled with those magical spots.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's just huge.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: There's so much and so much great terrain to cover, and and I keep going back to the fishing.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well it's uh the the lap that Larry and I did, we had a we had a soft floor at the time, but we uh stayed at Cape La Vik and we extended there for a week.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_03: So Cape La Vik uh bush camp like beachside camp.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, we were meant to be there for a week, we extended for another week, and then we went, uh now we have to leave.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we did the same up there.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: We were spoken we went into camp at up at Cape La Vik for two days and we ended up there for 16.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we were pulling a hundred whiting off the beach every day.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we caught like 34 squid one at one afternoon.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_06: It was just like and there's just turtles just cruising by and dolphins like the it's just insane.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, must do this spot.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Must definitely a must do.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: It should be on everyone's bucket list, yeah.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: And and look, if you're in WA or you've travelled some of these areas, put your put your comments below and your advice on other areas that people must go and check out because obviously, you know, we can't get everywhere.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_04: We'll try.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_04: So if you've got some great places to suggest, do it in the in the uh comments below and share your experience with other people.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: So for someone who is thinking, oh yeah, I want to do that, I want to go do the Gibb River Road.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_04: That don't look too hard.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_04: What do they need to know?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_04: What what do they put on their list?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_06: I'd say to join the Gibb River Road Facebook page, like they have a page, so and people have been on there recently, so you can be reading comments that that they put on there yesterday, so you can get real time road conditions and things like that.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_06: That's really handy.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so you can kind of find people who are traveling a bit in front of you and you can see what they're saying, so you kind of know what you're up against.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: And even conditions of waterfalls, like wet seasons are different, so some have more water some years, some like run longer, some you know, they may not even run at all in certain years.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_06: So you do a big hike in there and then there's no water running down the waterfall, it's a little bit disappointing.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_06: In all its glory, so um, there's a lot more water this year as far as waterfalls than when we went with the boys.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_06: Um, yeah, but as far as your car and everything, and just plan it.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Just yeah, get your car prepped, you know, good tyres, definitely a must and spares.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, no know where you want to go, research the area, go make a plan.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: I want to be here, I want to be here, but don't go every day like give yourself a few a few days for different things because sometimes you know you get to a spot and you think I might stay an extra day, which is that what we did.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: We planned we're gonna be away for so many days, and then on the end of that plan, we had seven days free.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: And as we would decide to stay somewhere longer, we we took off them days of that we had free.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I think by the time we got back to the Queensland border, we had one day stout house leaving.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I think about my first experiences travelling around Australia, I'm obviously older than than most of the people we talk to in in the podcast, but the thing that really stands out to me is just vehicles alone, how much more reliable and capable an off-the-showroom four-wheel drive is to do this sort of thing.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_04: Because I think a lot of people still get stuck in the old mindset that of the 80s series days where or whatever where you had to add, add, add, and virtually have a comp truck to head off and do these things when in actual fact a two-inch lift, frontal protection, and a snorkel, that's all you need.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: We'll get you, yeah.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not the the main roads aren't too bad, like they're corrugated, they're rudded, but you can drive to conditions on that.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's the when you want to go off the off tracks to the to get into the like the really nice camp spots, but you're doing that in first gear crawling, you know, you're not you're not trying to climb um gunshot or you know, rolling the through the tally track, you you can just crawl through it with low speed and have have no damage done at all.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_04: And you you think about how capable like say any of the stock dual cab ute now, they nearly all come with a ri a difflock.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_04: And if you do a two-inch lift and a snorkel on one of those, and you're prepared to put a good set of tires on, you can drop down to 10 or 12 psi, there's not much you can't drive with it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you don't have to have 33s, 35s, and four inches of lift, and it's amazing, and they're all come with enough power now, like my the dual cab diesel ute now have more horsepower or equal horsepower to my last V8 Commodore Ute.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's true.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, a bit more.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's eight kilowatts more, and five times the torque.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_04: So they're not underpowered, and with four drive gearing and whatnot, they will crawl just about everywhere.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_04: So, and that's the thing, if if you want to do this, there's there's a little bit to learn, and there's plenty of plenty of good content around to learn it about tire pressures, driving over rocks and sand, corrugations and all that sort of stuff.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_04: So you can get quite well educated and you don't have to spend a squillion dollars.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you put that money in the fuel tank and get out and see some of these places.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly right, yeah.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so what of all the things that oh sorry, what is the best time of year to go?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: That's one thing for sure.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_04: When you can.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: When you can, pretty much, at least if you're doing it, you're seeing it.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_02: But like we've done it, we did May this year, which was really good because it was early, there was hardly any people, the waters like the waterfalls were pumping.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um the temperature was quite good.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um most days were like 30, 32s, nights got down to 22, um, so it wasn't too bad.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but and previously we did it in July, um, which was a big wet that year, so a lot of the falls were still going, but there was definitely a lot more water this time.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and try to avoid school holidays because that's when you get most of your families with kids in schools that trying to you know plan around their holiday time.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_06: But yeah, it gets quite busy, yeah.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_04: Fair enough.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_04: All right, well, around the fire.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_04: Now, this is this is where life gets interesting.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_04: You're well known in this community for your camp cooking.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_04: You've just done a a cooking master class at the Ipswich show, which was oh my god, I experienced pork crackling that I would order by the kilo and eat nothing but that crackling.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: It was amazing, and then eating the pork.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: I had the same pork crackle about three hours after you did, cold from the fridge, and I would buy it by the kilo as well.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_04: So and so, yeah, you did a masterclass in cooking and managed to turn that also into a fundraiser, which was pretty good.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_04: How was that for you?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: That was a pretty sort of up there in front of people.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was a new experience for us.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like obviously, you know, we do a lot of the charity cooks with the MDC owners group at the Bash and stuff, and um, we love doing it.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: We also run our own charity event up at Cape Parmesan for the Black Dog.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but this was the first time we've actually been approached to come and do demonstration cooking, and um it was yeah, it was really enjoyable.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_06: We had a lot of people come up and say g'day and re- Once the nerves shook off like after the first show, it's just like probably to present yourself to people and and talk to people, and then Raleigh's trying to cook and talk and explain what he's doing, so yeah, it was um it was very different, but once we got the nerves of that first one off, we were fine.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because we couldn't obviously get to the big red bash this year because of the flooding, and then we normally raise money for royal flying doctors.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: I reached out to Daniel uh Easton, the admin of the MDC Os R Owners group, and said, I'm gonna be doing some cooking, I'm gonna have a lot of food left over.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: How about we just try and make some money for the Royal Flying Doctors on the Saturday night?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do a dinner for everybody that's gonna be there.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so he said, Yep, I'll get it organised with the um guys at Royal Flying Doctors, and that's what we did.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_04: And it was absolutely delicious.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_04: It's yeah, I and here you're cooking for us here at the at the master.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is gonna be the very excited about this.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: This will be our biggest cook yet.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: This is 250 head, so the up until now, 180's been my limit, or the biggest I've done.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, this will be pretty, pretty out there.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: So, what's what's the plan?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_04: What's on the menu?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_04: What have you got put together?
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: The menu is we call it our piggy platter.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll do um Mandy does an un unreal fried rice.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna do the fried rice with fire rice with um a pulp pork taco with coleslaw, and I'm gonna have six-hour hung ribs over the fire, pork ribs, pork ribs, and topped up with dirty steak strips.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: So there'll be whole sirloins hung on the fire for about four hours and then I'll reverse sear them on the fire.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: If you're not here, it should be you.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I've got sixty whole um pork loin ribs, uh, 12 whole sirloins.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_06: It's gonna look pretty impressive all hanging around big as you pit.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna eat between now then.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'm getting ready.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_04: This is just absolutely unreal.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_04: So, what's next on the radar for you guys?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I'd noticed you actually have been talking to the duck um who has the radio shows on 2GB, top bloke.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_04: So he's got some things lined up for you.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're doing our fundraiser at Cape Parmesan in October for the long weekend for the black dog, and then uh been talking to him, he's been um helping promote that on his radio show.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then next year he's keen to get us down there for one of his fundraising events to do some cooking at the I think it's the Blue Lagoon Um Caravan Park.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, we'll be definitely talking to him about that.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: But our plan going forward is we want to get back on the road full time.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: So 2018, we're gonna like try and take a bit of this cooking stuff on the road and um just try and live out of the van, travel as much as we can and see more of the country and yeah, just see how it goes, pretty much.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I can assure you folks that if you're looking to to cater a camping event, uh an outdoor lifestyle thing, these guys are so worth giving the call because this is something you're so passionate about, and that passion always the end result is amazing food, a good time, it's a such a lifestyle thing.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: How do people contact you if they're interested in having you on board for an event?
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they can just check out on our Facebook page, which is just memories not money or Instagram's the same, or we've got a website www.memoriesnot money.com.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um shoot us a a message on there or email memories not money2015 at gmail.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: So well there you go, folks.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um hopefully our institute marketing department will put those contact details below for you.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Get on the MDC Oz RV owners group and just say, hey Rolly, help me.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Come and cook for me, Rolly.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so yeah, and yeah, look, amazing experience, uh so worth doing.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh any guests that you have at your function will be so grateful that uh you got these guys involved.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_04: Again, thank you guys, thank you, Wayne.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's as always it's a pleasure to spend time with you both.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_04: It's been great following you, your adventures, and I really hope we can keep you in the goal class.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_04: Fingers crossed.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_04: Because yeah, I can imagine not wanting to learn that.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, to you guys at home, thanks for watching.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_04: We appreciate you checking out our our weekly podcast.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, don't forget to check out all the other videos on our YouTube channel or the masterclass and set up pack up videos, everything you need to make your MDC ownership a wonderful experience.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_04: And if you're not already on our owner groups, chatting to these guys myself, get on there, get into it, and join our MDC community.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for watching.