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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece, a loving father of four
- 0:15Speaker 1: seemingly ambushed on his way home one evening on an
- 0:19Speaker 1: isolated road. Why did that happen? Why does his little
- 0:25Speaker 1: girl still say boom boom, Daddy's on the ground. The
- 0:31Speaker 1: other stunning tragedy is that his little girl, age two,
- 0:36Speaker 1: was actually stripped in the car seat in the back
- 0:39Speaker 1: of the suv when daddy was murdered. But in the
- 0:44Speaker 1: last days a stunning twist in the case. I Nancy Grace,
- 0:49Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
- 0:52Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation, and Sirius XM one eleven. First
- 0:56Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this. Who killed Jerry
- 1:00Speaker 1: Bride again? Questions have been raised in the media over
- 1:03Speaker 1: whether his ex wife, Shanna Gardner Fernandez, was somehow involved.
- 1:08Speaker 1: They had a contentious divorce and custody battle, but did
- 1:11Speaker 1: reach a settlement before his death. Police have not named
- 1:15Speaker 1: anyone as a suspect. Do you think that Jared's ex
- 1:17Speaker 1: wife has something to do with this? I'm not comfortable
- 1:21Speaker 1: saying yes definitely unless there's evidence to back that up.
- 1:25Speaker 1: But I believe her actions since his murder have been
- 1:29Speaker 1: very suspicious and they don't sit well with me you
- 1:32Speaker 1: we're hearing our friends at Inside Edition along with victim
- 1:37Speaker 1: to thirty three years old, a devout Mormon trying the
- 1:42Speaker 1: best he can to raise his children along with his
- 1:47Speaker 1: knee bride. Why would anyone want to gun him down
- 1:52Speaker 1: on a remote one way road with his little daughter
- 1:57Speaker 1: Becksley in the backseat. In the last hours, As I
- 2:01Speaker 1: mentioned to you, focus has been now pinpointed on his
- 2:06Speaker 1: ex wife, who of course declares her innocence, as does
- 2:11Speaker 1: her lawyer. With me an all star panel to make
- 2:15Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now, but two special
- 2:17Speaker 1: guests joining us Jared's wife, his now widow, Kirsten Brightigan.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, and you can find
- 2:28Speaker 1: her at Justice for Jared B. Kristen, it must seem
- 2:35Speaker 1: surreal to even hear the word widow attached to your name.
- 2:41Speaker 1: It is you know, I just took my daughter to
- 2:44Speaker 1: her annual exam and on the farms you have to
- 2:49Speaker 1: check that box and that that was very difficult to do. Guys,
- 2:53Speaker 1: Kirsten is raising two little children and I don't know
- 3:00Speaker 1: how you do it every day. Also, Jared has two
- 3:05Speaker 1: older children from his first marriage, and that is the X.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Somehow focus is now attached to with me, Rebecca Rosenberg,
- 3:15Speaker 1: Fox News Digital crime reporter, author of At Any Cost,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and you can find her at Rebecca fey Rosenberg dot com. Rebecca,
- 3:22Speaker 1: it's so wonderful to have you with us, because I
- 3:26Speaker 1: tell you, I am stunned at what we are learning now.
- 3:30Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to our cut from
- 3:32Speaker 1: crime online dot com. The Florida ex wife of murdered
- 3:36Speaker 1: Microsoft manager Jared Bridigan denied having an affair that ended
- 3:40Speaker 1: their marriage, but her former personal trainer, who says he
- 3:45Speaker 1: was her one time lover, contradicted her claim in an
- 3:48Speaker 1: interview with Fox News Digital. As a Christmas gift in
- 3:51Speaker 1: late twenty fourteen, Bridigen bought his then wife, Shanna Gardner Fernandez,
- 3:56Speaker 1: a package of training sessions, but the fitness instruct you
- 4:00Speaker 1: said their relationship turned romantic just weeks later. Okay, her
- 4:05Speaker 1: weightlifting lover now says they were an item before the divorce,
- 4:13Speaker 1: before that divorce was final. Now you know what to you,
- 4:17Speaker 1: Rebecca Rosenberg, having an affair does not a murder make
- 4:24Speaker 1: and if that's your only evidence, you're up the creek
- 4:27Speaker 1: without a paddle. But what makes this really concerning is
- 4:32Speaker 1: the lying about it. When you are in the middle
- 4:35Speaker 1: of a homicide investigation, that is the time not to lie,
- 4:42Speaker 1: because that makes it seem so much more nefarious. Rebecca,
- 4:47Speaker 1: listen again to our forensic crime online. The former personal trainer,
- 4:50Speaker 1: said Shannah Gardner for Nandez, whose family owns the multimillion
- 4:54Speaker 1: dollar papercraft company called Stamping Up, told him that she
- 4:58Speaker 1: and brit Again were separated for months when their sessions
- 5:00Speaker 1: allegedly took an unprofessional turn. The instructor, who asked that
- 5:04Speaker 1: his name be with hel to protect his privacy, said quote,
- 5:08Speaker 1: they weren't really speaking. They were living in opposite ends
- 5:10Speaker 1: of the house. She said she had grown up Marmon
- 5:13Speaker 1: and didn't want that anymore. Bride Again, on the other hand,
- 5:17Speaker 1: remained a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ
- 5:19Speaker 1: of Latter day Saints. Rebecca Rosenbarre, there's so much happening
- 5:23Speaker 1: right now on the Bride Again investigation. I want to
- 5:25Speaker 1: start with the affair again. You know, half the people
- 5:29Speaker 1: on the jury, if there ever is a jury, will
- 5:31Speaker 1: have had an affair at some point in their life,
- 5:32Speaker 1: whether they cheated on a boyfriend or a girlfriend, a
- 5:35Speaker 1: husband and X, or they may have been a victim
- 5:39Speaker 1: of their loved one having an affair. That again does
- 5:43Speaker 1: not a murder make, but lying about it, if in
- 5:47Speaker 1: fact she did lie about it in a homicide investigation
- 5:52Speaker 1: regarding the father of her two children, that's a big deal. Yes, Nancy,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I think that really is the point. I mean, again,
- 5:59Speaker 1: this is this is seven years ago that this allegedly happened.
- 6:03Speaker 1: And like you said, people have affairs all the time. Well, Rebecca,
- 6:07Speaker 1: I certainly hope not all the time. And in fact,
- 6:11Speaker 1: I'm going to call my husband and the break and
- 6:13Speaker 1: make sure he's at work where he's supposed to be alone. Okay,
- 6:17Speaker 1: go ahead, But I do think that if you and
- 6:21Speaker 1: I in the article, I included a quote from a
- 6:23Speaker 1: long time Manhattan homicide prosecutor who said, that is really
- 6:30Speaker 1: really troubling, especially when she's represented by a criminal defense attorney,
- 6:34Speaker 1: to give a public interview and make a statement that
- 6:40Speaker 1: you know that is allegedly not true. It could be
- 6:43Speaker 1: so easily proven as false because there's another party there
- 6:47Speaker 1: who says that this, you know, that's happened. So I
- 6:51Speaker 1: think that's kind of you know, it's just it just
- 6:54Speaker 1: is not a good look to Kirsten Bright again. This
- 6:57Speaker 1: is Jared's wife, his current wife. He had an EXI
- 7:02Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about right now, that reportedly cheated,
- 7:07Speaker 1: had a sex affair with a personal trainer. I don't
- 7:11Speaker 1: give a flying fig if she had an affair, but
- 7:14Speaker 1: lying about it, if in fact she did lie about
- 7:16Speaker 1: it when you were in the middle of a homicide investigation,
- 7:18Speaker 1: that changes everything in my mind, Kristen, Did he know
- 7:22Speaker 1: she cheated during the marriage, if in fact she did, Yes,
- 7:26Speaker 1: Jared had always told me when I had asked him
- 7:29Speaker 1: about the divorce, that he had found emails and screenshots
- 7:37Speaker 1: of sexually explicit messages and photos between the two of them,
- 7:42Speaker 1: and he had told me that he confronted her about it,
- 7:45Speaker 1: and that's when things unraveled. It was not before they
- 7:48Speaker 1: were not separated before, according to Jared. According to Jared,
- 7:53Speaker 1: it happened after he found those and that's what initiated
- 7:56Speaker 1: Shanna filing for divorce in February with me, you know, Kirsen, Rebecca,
- 8:03Speaker 1: don't move, but I've got to go to a shrink.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me, renowned psychoanalysts joining us out
- 8:10Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. Never like a business there, Doctor Bethany
- 8:14Speaker 1: Marshall dot com and star of a new Netflix show,
- 8:17Speaker 1: Bling Empire. Doctor Bethany, I really don't know a nice
- 8:22Speaker 1: way to put this. Why are people so stupid? First
- 8:24Speaker 1: of all, you have an affair, but then you exchange
- 8:28Speaker 1: text messages and send explicit photos from your phone that
- 8:33Speaker 1: your spouse can just look at. I mean, doctor Bethany,
- 8:37Speaker 1: every time I turn around, my children are like two monkeys.
- 8:40Speaker 1: They're constantly They even either have my iPad or my
- 8:44Speaker 1: phone or am I whatever in their hand. They know
- 8:46Speaker 1: all the codes and they're like all over it. I
- 8:49Speaker 1: couldn't keep a secret from them if they had to.
- 8:51Speaker 1: But to number one, have the affair, because you're gonna
- 8:55Speaker 1: get caught. But number two make it so easy and
- 8:58Speaker 1: so hurtful for the spouse to find out. That's the
- 9:01Speaker 1: last thing I want to do is look at my
- 9:03Speaker 1: husband's fine and say, some other woman's breasts on there
- 9:06Speaker 1: are really any breasts on there, but especially some other
- 9:09Speaker 1: woman's breasts. Absolutely, it shows lack of empathy, lack of
- 9:12Speaker 1: conform who whoa, whoa whoa? Slow down? Okay, lack of
- 9:16Speaker 1: empathy right there, You're so right. I mean, I don't
- 9:21Speaker 1: ever want to hurt David, my husband, And the last
- 9:23Speaker 1: thing I would do is leave something out for him
- 9:26Speaker 1: to find that I know would hurt him. But you know, Nancy,
- 9:30Speaker 1: people who have affairs do ultimately leave something out so
- 9:35Speaker 1: that they are found out. It happens all the time.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Here's an interesting thing about affairs. When a person has
- 9:42Speaker 1: an affair, it's not because they love the object of
- 9:45Speaker 1: the affair or they want to be with that person.
- 9:49Speaker 1: They like how that person makes them feel. They're creating
- 9:53Speaker 1: an experience with that person. Oh, dear Lord and him.
- 9:56Speaker 1: And when you start with the experience, it's sex. Okay,
- 10:01Speaker 1: I mean really, Doctor Bethany, I know you're the expert,
- 10:05Speaker 1: but let me just jump in. Could somebody do something
- 10:08Speaker 1: to surprise me, Like, the man has a midlife crisis,
- 10:13Speaker 1: no offense, Joe Scott Morgan. The man has a midlife
- 10:16Speaker 1: crisis and he runs out with the secretary or in
- 10:20Speaker 1: a case I covered where the mom was ultimately murdered
- 10:24Speaker 1: with the clerk at G and C. You know, Jackie.
- 10:27Speaker 1: They start the exercising and the tanning and the new
- 10:30Speaker 1: haircut and the sports car, and they start taking vitamins.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I know it's clich shaped. But don't look at me
- 10:36Speaker 1: like that, Jackie. It happens, and he actually starts the
- 10:40Speaker 1: affair with the checkout lady at the G and C.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And here the wife. If it's true, She says it's not,
- 10:48Speaker 1: but the trainer says it is. She starts personal training
- 10:51Speaker 1: and then starts an affair with the trainer. I mean,
- 10:56Speaker 1: surprise me just once I'm through with my tirade, Bethany, Okay,
- 11:03Speaker 1: there are no surprises. It was a sex affair. She
- 11:08Speaker 1: was becoming a new person with him. She was getting tattoo,
- 11:11Speaker 1: she was working out, she was bulking up. Do you
- 11:13Speaker 1: see the pictures of her. I mean, she went on
- 11:16Speaker 1: a journey to become a new person, a highly sexualized,
- 11:21Speaker 1: eroticized person. And who is she going to do it
- 11:24Speaker 1: with the personal trainer? You know that the idea that
- 11:28Speaker 1: she wanted to experience herself is something different does seem
- 11:33Speaker 1: to link back to the fact that she grew up
- 11:35Speaker 1: in a very religious Mormon family. Oh, I was just
- 11:39Speaker 1: waiting for you to blame the Mormons. Okay, here's the
- 11:43Speaker 1: other thing, though. Listen to Kirsten Branegan. She's in the
- 11:47Speaker 1: middle of trying to solve this horrific tragedy. This torn
- 11:52Speaker 1: her family apart, and now the affair the ex wife
- 11:57Speaker 1: had with the trainer has become an issue Time Stories
- 12:14Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Christian Bright again again. I don't care
- 12:22Speaker 1: who sleeps with who, doesn't matter unless it touches on
- 12:26Speaker 1: a homicide investigation. And to lie you said, now what
- 12:32Speaker 1: seven years later, still lying about it while we are
- 12:36Speaker 1: trying to solve a murderer? Are you surprised? I'm not.
- 12:41Speaker 1: From my experience, things are never what they seem with Shanna.
- 12:48Speaker 1: So if what Jared told me is true, if what
- 12:51Speaker 1: the trainer has now said is true, I am not
- 12:54Speaker 1: surprised that she denies it. Let's talk about what the
- 12:57Speaker 1: trainer is now saying. Rebecca rosenburr Um Fox and He's
- 13:02Speaker 1: digital crime reporter author has been on this case from
- 13:06Speaker 1: the beginning. What is the trainer actually saying. We are
- 13:10Speaker 1: not staying the trainer's name because he does not want
- 13:13Speaker 1: his name out there. We've already got one dead body.
- 13:16Speaker 1: What is he saying exactly, Rebecca, He just said that
- 13:20Speaker 1: when he met that her husband had purchased he had
- 13:24Speaker 1: been husband had purchased these sessions. They started in an affair,
- 13:29Speaker 1: but he thought that they had been separated for a
- 13:32Speaker 1: very long time beforehand, and so he didn't realize she
- 13:37Speaker 1: was still in a relationship with him. But family members
- 13:40Speaker 1: and I'm sure Kristen can Land on this Um told
- 13:43Speaker 1: Fox that that simply wasn't true. They only separated right
- 13:48Speaker 1: before the divorce in February twenty fifteen. So Um, and
- 13:53Speaker 1: he said that he actually, you know, at a certain point,
- 13:57Speaker 1: was like, you know, I told her she's got to
- 13:59Speaker 1: kind of go do her own thing now because she
- 14:02Speaker 1: just has too much going on with this split, and
- 14:08Speaker 1: it wasn't really good for them to pursue that relationship
- 14:11Speaker 1: at that time. Okay, who said, what can you say
- 14:14Speaker 1: that again? And he's Chiner ex wife and Jared, will
- 14:21Speaker 1: you tell me that one more time? Yea. So the
- 14:23Speaker 1: trainer said that they dated for a few months, but
- 14:28Speaker 1: at a certain point he told her that, you know,
- 14:32Speaker 1: they had to take a break because she was so
- 14:34Speaker 1: distracted by this acrimonious split from Jared Brittigan now dating
- 14:41Speaker 1: and my mind, Rebecca Rosenberg means you go out for
- 14:43Speaker 1: dinner in a movie. Were they having sex during the
- 14:47Speaker 1: merits before the divorce? According to the trainer, yes, they
- 14:52Speaker 1: she also started teaching classes. He said. After he trained her,
- 14:57Speaker 1: she started teaching classes at the same where he worked out,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and they remained friendly even after they broke up. Jesscot
- 15:06Speaker 1: Morgan joining me, professor forensic Jacksonville State University, author of
- 15:10Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star of an
- 15:13Speaker 1: incredible news series, Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan on iHeart
- 15:19Speaker 1: Joe Scott again. I can't say it enough. I couldn't
- 15:23Speaker 1: care less who's sleeping with who, not my concern. My
- 15:27Speaker 1: concern is how it touches on a murder investigation. Jared
- 15:32Speaker 1: Brynigan was ruthlessly murdered. For any listener or viewer that
- 15:39Speaker 1: forgot the circumstances, please give me a nutshell. Joe Scott
- 15:45Speaker 1: as to what happened to Jared just thirty three years old,
- 15:49Speaker 1: four children to raise the night he left his ex
- 15:54Speaker 1: wife's home, dropping the two older children off. When I
- 15:59Speaker 1: say older, they're not that old. Bexley two at the
- 16:03Speaker 1: time and London just six months at the time. Their
- 16:08Speaker 1: dad is murdered. He's Joe Scott leaving the two older
- 16:14Speaker 1: children aged either twins at the excess, and driving. I
- 16:20Speaker 1: guess about a twenty minute drive home to Kristen who
- 16:24Speaker 1: is with us today and the two babies. And there's
- 16:28Speaker 1: a one way road you take it from there, Joe
- 16:31Speaker 1: Scott one way road, and you know, very very narrow,
- 16:35Speaker 1: and it's it's a familiar area he runs. He runs
- 16:39Speaker 1: this route, you know, relatively often because you know he's
- 16:44Speaker 1: he has to interact with the X with his children.
- 16:48Speaker 1: And he is going down this road, tree Line Street,
- 16:51Speaker 1: and he comes across debris in the roadway, which was
- 16:54Speaker 1: actually at tire. I think, what's still a rom attached
- 16:58Speaker 1: to I remember seeing an I mentioned this, yes, and
- 17:01Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? You know, you
- 17:03Speaker 1: can't drive over this thing. You're gonna have to get
- 17:05Speaker 1: out of the vehicle and remove it from the roadway,
- 17:09Speaker 1: because first off, you'll tear up your car. And he
- 17:12Speaker 1: sounds like a really decent guy. He's probably kind of
- 17:14Speaker 1: guy that wouldn't want anybody else to hit this thing.
- 17:16Speaker 1: As he's out of the car, he's gunned down right
- 17:19Speaker 1: there with the baby in the back seat. Gunned down,
- 17:22Speaker 1: not robbed, not sex assaulted, not carjact. The person was
- 17:27Speaker 1: lying in wait for him to come by the tire
- 17:31Speaker 1: in the middle of the road to make him get
- 17:32Speaker 1: out because you couldn't get around it on the one
- 17:35Speaker 1: way road. This is an ambush murder. Kathleen Murphy joining
- 17:40Speaker 1: me high profile family lawyer out of North Carolina at
- 17:44Speaker 1: NC Domestic Law dot com. Kathleen Murphy. When a murder
- 17:49Speaker 1: case rears his ugly head, and that's the time when
- 17:53Speaker 1: you start telling the truth about your background, about everything
- 17:57Speaker 1: to do with you as it relates to the murder victim. Again,
- 18:01Speaker 1: could somebody have an affair that surprises me? Not the secretary,
- 18:06Speaker 1: the assistant, the cashier at the vitamin supplement store, the
- 18:11Speaker 1: personal trainer. It doesn't make a murder, but I mean
- 18:16Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy. It certainly doesn't help that she lied about it.
- 18:19Speaker 1: It doesn't help that she lied about it, and it
- 18:20Speaker 1: makes me believe that she's also lied to the courts
- 18:24Speaker 1: in the civil section too, because in the civil trial
- 18:26Speaker 1: where they had their custody matters, she put a lot
- 18:29Speaker 1: of information in pleading on a regular basis, and like
- 18:32Speaker 1: Kristen had reported earlier, on one hand, she would agree
- 18:36Speaker 1: to something and they would end up in court because
- 18:38Speaker 1: she's not a person of her word. And Nancy, I
- 18:41Speaker 1: also have to add to what Joe Scott Morgan said,
- 18:44Speaker 1: this particular area, it was an ambush because to the
- 18:47Speaker 1: right of the tire is a sign that's right in
- 18:51Speaker 1: the road, and to the left of the tire trees.
- 18:54Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot go past it without getting out of
- 18:57Speaker 1: your carm. So with respect to an affair, it is
- 19:02Speaker 1: an indication of character. It is an indication if she's
- 19:04Speaker 1: lying to the police and she's lying about other things.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Another major development and Kristen Bridigan, this is Jared's wife
- 19:13Speaker 1: joining us, the mother of his two children, trying to
- 19:16Speaker 1: put her life back together and solve the murder of
- 19:19Speaker 1: her husband. Take a listen to our cut forty nine,
- 19:23Speaker 1: Katie Jeffrey's first Coast news in the national media. Though
- 19:27Speaker 1: there has been much speculation about Bridigan's acrimonious divorce from
- 19:31Speaker 1: his first wife, Shana Gardner Fernandez, one story claimed that
- 19:35Speaker 1: she asked a local tattoo artist about someone who could quote,
- 19:39Speaker 1: shut him up and quote. In an interview with our
- 19:41Speaker 1: news partners at the Florida Times Union, she called the
- 19:44Speaker 1: implications that she was involved sensationalistic and inaccurate, and she
- 19:48Speaker 1: felt threatened by the scrutiny Kirsten Bridigan. The thought that
- 19:53Speaker 1: there is now a tattoo artist stating that your husband's
- 19:58Speaker 1: ex was looking for someone to quote shut him up.
- 20:03Speaker 1: That has got to stab you to the core. Yeah,
- 20:07Speaker 1: you know, I am so grateful that he came forward
- 20:09Speaker 1: because to me, that's huge. There's been people that said, oh,
- 20:14Speaker 1: people say things like this when they're getting divorced. I've
- 20:17Speaker 1: had several friends get divorced and none of them have
- 20:19Speaker 1: said something like that. And on top of it, in
- 20:22Speaker 1: her interview, she also says that her criminal law defense
- 20:26Speaker 1: attorney was referred to her by several friends, and she
- 20:29Speaker 1: even like hints at, you know, we run in different circles,
- 20:34Speaker 1: almost trying to make it seem sketchy, like Jared was
- 20:37Speaker 1: involved in some sketchy circles. But when you think about it,
- 20:41Speaker 1: I'm like, none of my friends would be able to
- 20:43Speaker 1: refer us to a criminal defense attorney. So yeah, we
- 20:47Speaker 1: do run in different circles. They are very different. What
- 20:49Speaker 1: does that mean to you? Kirsten Bright again and she
- 20:52Speaker 1: said you run in different circles. I took that as
- 20:57Speaker 1: an attempt to doubt on what Jared may had been
- 21:02Speaker 1: involved in or who he ran with, which is just
- 21:05Speaker 1: insane to me if you knew Jared, and that's why
- 21:08Speaker 1: I'm trying to help people know who he was. He's
- 21:12Speaker 1: not involved in anything like that. He's the goofiest, most
- 21:15Speaker 1: fun loving man. And so to try and throw that
- 21:19Speaker 1: out there, but then at the same time say that
- 21:21Speaker 1: her friends, multiple friends, referred her to a criminal defense attorney.
- 21:25Speaker 1: I think that flipped on her and wasn't what she
- 21:28Speaker 1: may have wanted that to be. Kathalie Murphy, we're a
- 21:31Speaker 1: high profile family lawyer joining us out of North Carolina,
- 21:35Speaker 1: but also familiar with this area. Jump in regarding the
- 21:41Speaker 1: location of the shooting death. So, Nancy, this is my hometown.
- 21:44Speaker 1: This is where my siblings still lived to this day,
- 21:48Speaker 1: and it is not a busy road. When Jared dropped
- 21:53Speaker 1: his children off at his ex wife's house, he literally
- 21:58Speaker 1: drove down very quiet roads, their back roads, and he
- 22:03Speaker 1: drove through a one way access road to get to
- 22:08Speaker 1: an exit ramp to get on a highway if you will,
- 22:13Speaker 1: to cross over that made your highway to get to
- 22:17Speaker 1: his side of town. And so for this to be
- 22:21Speaker 1: considered non personal would be very unusual. It was personal.
- 22:27Speaker 1: There's nobody out there at that time, in my experience,
- 22:33Speaker 1: it's very quiet, and it is a one way road
- 22:37Speaker 1: and it's secluded, and I don't understand why it would
- 22:42Speaker 1: not be something that was specifically targeted as to Jared. Well,
- 22:47Speaker 1: obviously in my mind it was. Guys. I want to
- 22:50Speaker 1: focus falling up on what we have just heard from
- 22:53Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy. I want to focus back on telling a
- 22:59Speaker 1: tattoost And I believe Rebecca Rosenberg she was in the
- 23:03Speaker 1: middle of getting her genitals pears Is that correct? Yeah,
- 23:06Speaker 1: it's very odd. Actually, she filed to divorce on February
- 23:10Speaker 1: twenty third, and then went into this tattoo parlor the
- 23:14Speaker 1: next day and got a genital piercing and the staffer
- 23:20Speaker 1: who worked there, but it was so noteworthy because she
- 23:23Speaker 1: didn't have any tattoos yet, she didn't have any other
- 23:27Speaker 1: unusual piercing, and she went straight for this kind of
- 23:30Speaker 1: extreme pierceing that normally people get after having these other ones.
- 23:36Speaker 1: It was just kind of unusual, almost like she was
- 23:38Speaker 1: going through some sort of transition, I guess. And genital
- 23:40Speaker 1: parsing is something you work up too normally, I think,
- 23:43Speaker 1: if you ever work up to it at all. But
- 23:45Speaker 1: I don't think usually people get just that piercing, so
- 23:48Speaker 1: he noted it as being quite unusual graduate to general piercing.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Not judging, don't care what I care about. It's what
- 23:54Speaker 1: she said reportedly to the tattoo artists. You know, this
- 23:58Speaker 1: is reminding me of doctor Bethany. It's reminded me of
- 24:01Speaker 1: tot Mom Casey Anthony, who had Italian the Italian fries
- 24:06Speaker 1: for the Sweet Life. I think it was ladolsha Vita
- 24:10Speaker 1: tattooed on her arm while her two year old taught girl,
- 24:14Speaker 1: Kayley was missing translation murdered by her. Do you remember that, Nancy?
- 24:21Speaker 1: I remember it. Not only that, not only the Sweet
- 24:24Speaker 1: Life tattooed on her body, dancing on a stripper pole,
- 24:29Speaker 1: buying the low cut outfits and lingerie at the local target.
- 24:34Speaker 1: I think she stole her roommate, I think check book
- 24:38Speaker 1: in order to make that a good memory. Yeah, your
- 24:40Speaker 1: baby's missing, and what do you want to push out
- 24:43Speaker 1: bras in a case of beer? Okay, that's right. So
- 24:46Speaker 1: what I am seeing with Shanna is this dramatic personality transformation.
- 24:52Speaker 1: It really is typical of what we see with women
- 24:56Speaker 1: who have a borderline personality disorder. I was just waiting
- 24:59Speaker 1: for you to say she a personality disorder, that's not insanity.
- 25:04Speaker 1: But think about it. Think about it that people of
- 25:07Speaker 1: borderline personality have both cleaning and rejecting behavior. Because she
- 25:13Speaker 1: probably stalked him during the divorce, she was preoccupied with him,
- 25:17Speaker 1: but she's also rejecting him, lying, taking him to court
- 25:22Speaker 1: for every little till somebody's jumping in. Is that Rebecca?
- 25:28Speaker 1: Now this is Kathleen. When I see litigation at this level,
- 25:33Speaker 1: I really have to equate a lot of litigation at
- 25:36Speaker 1: this level to personality disorders. It is very significant as
- 25:42Speaker 1: a red flag that this heavy litigation, that she was
- 25:45Speaker 1: engaged and he was responsive mainly is indicative of that
- 25:49Speaker 1: personality disorder that you're discussing. Okay, you know what, guys,
- 25:54Speaker 1: I really appreciate all the info about the personality disorder,
- 25:58Speaker 1: but unless it rises to a mental defect or insanity,
- 26:02Speaker 1: which is a defense at trial, don't care. I don't
- 26:06Speaker 1: care if she was a narcissistic and thought only about herself.
- 26:09Speaker 1: I don't care if she was histrionic, which means you're
- 26:11Speaker 1: a drama queen or a king. All the pathological liar,
- 26:15Speaker 1: a sex a blah blah. What matters is a father
- 26:22Speaker 1: four is dead on a remote highway, and now the
- 26:28Speaker 1: ex wife seemingly is caught and a really big fat
- 26:33Speaker 1: lie again not about having sex with somebody else during
- 26:37Speaker 1: the marriage, but about credibility, because if you're lying during
- 26:44Speaker 1: a homicide investigation, that is a big red flight. I mean,
- 26:49Speaker 1: Doctor Michelle Dupree, a forensic pathologists medical examiner, author of
- 26:54Speaker 1: Homicide Investigation Field Guide, Doctor Dupree, I have reason to
- 26:59Speaker 1: believe that bright Agan, Jerry bright Agan, was shot at
- 27:03Speaker 1: close range. This wasn't a like an accidental shooting inside
- 27:09Speaker 1: a car, which has happened in the past. This was targeted.
- 27:15Speaker 1: How can I tell if it was close range as well?
- 27:18Speaker 1: There's a couple of plays stancy and one, of course,
- 27:20Speaker 1: as we look at the actual wound itself, we look
- 27:22Speaker 1: at any gunshot residue that may be on the clothing.
- 27:25Speaker 1: We looked for signs that the weapon was within a
- 27:28Speaker 1: certain distance from that person, and we can tell that
- 27:31Speaker 1: again by the wound and by the gunshot residue that
- 27:33Speaker 1: may be on the clothing. But the really interesting thing is,
- 27:36Speaker 1: and you've said it, you know this was targeted. I
- 27:39Speaker 1: mean someone had to know his route. This is a
- 27:42Speaker 1: remote area It's a little bit of an unusual way
- 27:44Speaker 1: to go home. The tire was obviously staged and placed
- 27:48Speaker 1: them in the road that he would get out and stop.
- 27:50Speaker 1: He was shot almost immediately as he got out, and
- 27:53Speaker 1: he was shot several times. This is up close and personal.
- 27:56Speaker 1: This was intentional. I'm also thinking about the affair with
- 27:59Speaker 1: the trainer during her marriage to Jared. Maybe she's lying
- 28:02Speaker 1: about it because it makes her look bad. Okay, I
- 28:05Speaker 1: can understand that. But once you get into the homicide
- 28:08Speaker 1: investigation stage, that changes things for me. It's no longer
- 28:13Speaker 1: a time that you can continue a facade again. She
- 28:18Speaker 1: says that didn't happen. The lover has come forward and said, oh, yes,
- 28:24Speaker 1: it did. I want to talk about something else, Jackie,
- 28:27Speaker 1: would you please play Katie Jefferies from First Coach and
- 28:31Speaker 1: News one more time. In the national media, though there
- 28:34Speaker 1: has been much speculation about Bridigan's acrimonious divorce from his
- 28:38Speaker 1: first wife, Shana Gardner Fernandez, one story claimed that she
- 28:42Speaker 1: asked a local tattoo artist about someone who could quote,
- 28:45Speaker 1: shut him up, and quote. In an interview with our
- 28:48Speaker 1: news partners at the Florida Times Union, she called the
- 28:50Speaker 1: implications that she was involved, sensationalistic and inaccurate, and she
- 28:55Speaker 1: felt threatened by the scrutiny, according to the tattoo artist.
- 29:00Speaker 1: He states she told us her life could just be
- 29:05Speaker 1: better if if he could just quote shut up, and
- 29:09Speaker 1: asked us if we knew anybody that could quote shut
- 29:13Speaker 1: him up end quote. Also, I did not take it
- 29:17Speaker 1: at the time as anything nefarious. In hindsight, I can
- 29:21Speaker 1: see how that can be taken differently now to Dr
- 29:26Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoanist. You know, and all the years I
- 29:30Speaker 1: have been with my husband David, I've never once ever
- 29:35Speaker 1: threatened to do him harm, much less something like this.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I think that's a very thin line when you're at
- 29:42Speaker 1: the point you're actually wishing your husband or your ex
- 29:46Speaker 1: to be quote shut up her ex husband, Nancy, it
- 29:51Speaker 1: does cross to me a very thickcline of amorality hatred
- 29:56Speaker 1: towards him. To me, when she says something like this,
- 29:59Speaker 1: it's shows first of all, that she feels she's above
- 30:02Speaker 1: everybody else, she can say whatever she wants with impunity.
- 30:06Speaker 1: It tells me that she is preoccupied with him, wanted
- 30:10Speaker 1: him gone, that her his very presence on this earth
- 30:15Speaker 1: was unbearable. To her, that's why people commit domestic homicide.
- 30:19Speaker 1: The fact that the other person is alive is unbearable
- 30:22Speaker 1: because it makes them feel all kinds of feelings lost,
- 30:26Speaker 1: bad feelings about themselves, rage, jealousy, the feeling the other
- 30:30Speaker 1: person has a better life than they have. But why
- 30:33Speaker 1: the she was the one that was shaving, didn't she
- 30:35Speaker 1: started the whole divorce? Yeah, I see. I think sometimes
- 30:38Speaker 1: people cheat because they're trying to seek revenge on the
- 30:43Speaker 1: other person for imagine slights and injuries. So if I
- 30:46Speaker 1: have this crazy sex affair and I document it for
- 30:50Speaker 1: you to see, I'm going to show you that I'm
- 30:52Speaker 1: better than you. I'm desirable to another person. You may
- 30:56Speaker 1: not desire me and the way I want, but I'm
- 30:58Speaker 1: going to demonstrate that this a fair person desires me.
- 31:02Speaker 1: I'm sure he did desire her. I'm sure it was
- 31:05Speaker 1: a perfectly nice person. She just sounds really unstable him.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace Rebecca Rosenberg joining us from
- 31:30Speaker 1: Fox needs a digital According to the tattoo parlor employee,
- 31:35Speaker 1: they the two of them, tattoo employee and ex wife
- 31:40Speaker 1: go to dinner at a Jacksonville restaurant called The Flying Iguana,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and at that time she was talking about her divorce.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Told the employee her life would quote be better if
- 31:53Speaker 1: bride could just shut up, and did we know anyone
- 31:57Speaker 1: that could quote shut him. She also complained that Brian
- 32:03Speaker 1: again was trying to quote take all her money, Isn't
- 32:09Speaker 1: it true? Rebecca Rosenberg and the ex wife comes from
- 32:12Speaker 1: a very very wealthy family. Yes, she comes from a
- 32:16Speaker 1: prominent family in Utah that has a papercroft company called
- 32:21Speaker 1: stamping Up. One report estimated that it has revenue of
- 32:26Speaker 1: one hundred million a year. And her parents had always
- 32:31Speaker 1: supported them until he finished school, until Jared Britigan finished school.
- 32:36Speaker 1: They financially supported them, helped them buy their first two homes.
- 32:40Speaker 1: They have always supported Shanna. She has lived off the
- 32:44Speaker 1: money from that business. So I think at the very
- 32:47Speaker 1: beginning when they began their divorce, there was a lot
- 32:51Speaker 1: of wrangling over her possibly pain, alamony, this, you know,
- 32:55Speaker 1: back and forth. So that was definitely a concern of
- 32:58Speaker 1: hers because I don't think he was working yet at
- 33:01Speaker 1: that point. And I just do want to add one thing,
- 33:04Speaker 1: you know, I think with she Ana, what you're seeing
- 33:07Speaker 1: is a lot of suspicious things that are piling up,
- 33:11Speaker 1: you know, it's not just you know, you take each
- 33:15Speaker 1: of these things in isolation, it's a little less noteworthy.
- 33:20Speaker 1: But when you look at you know, a lot of
- 33:22Speaker 1: sort of odd behaviors, like she was, you know, always
- 33:26Speaker 1: speaking poorly of and to the school. There was just
- 33:30Speaker 1: so much acrimony there. And then after the murder, she
- 33:36Speaker 1: requested his death certificate from his widow, which is just
- 33:42Speaker 1: a very odd thing to do, uh and totally unnecessary.
- 33:47Speaker 1: And and had also demanded that Kirsten Britigan give her
- 33:55Speaker 1: the children's library book school library books that were at
- 33:58Speaker 1: her house. I think it was less than two weeks
- 34:00Speaker 1: after the murder, claiming the librarian had existed on getting
- 34:05Speaker 1: them bath, which is just kind of absurd. What librarian
- 34:09Speaker 1: is in just an on getting library books back from
- 34:12Speaker 1: to children who just tragically lost their father. So I
- 34:16Speaker 1: think some of these details are just adding up where
- 34:19Speaker 1: investigators are kind of focusing on Shanna because of these behaviors.
- 34:26Speaker 1: Let's talk about forensics, what their remains forensics. Take a
- 34:31Speaker 1: listen to our friends at wj XT. So it looks
- 34:35Speaker 1: like someone purpocifically set out to kill Jared Brad Again, Yes,
- 34:41Speaker 1: it does look that way. That's what evidence is leading
- 34:43Speaker 1: us to believe investigators processed to that tire, sent bullet
- 34:48Speaker 1: casings to a ballistics lab, and they are still looking
- 34:51Speaker 1: for this Ford F one fifty scene in the area
- 34:54Speaker 1: around the time of the crime. What kind of digital
- 34:57Speaker 1: footprint is there? Are their phone records, so their GPS
- 35:01Speaker 1: or there's searches that might play into this case. So
- 35:07Speaker 1: all I can say is there's a lot of forensic
- 35:09Speaker 1: evidence that we're going through. I can't get specific with it, okay,
- 35:14Speaker 1: jos got Morgan, Professor Forensics, Joe Scott. The first thing
- 35:19Speaker 1: I would do forensically, of course, once I process the
- 35:22Speaker 1: scene is get cell phone data for everyone connected to
- 35:28Speaker 1: the victim, including his current wife, his ex wife, known associates,
- 35:34Speaker 1: because I'd want to know who, if anyone, they were
- 35:38Speaker 1: calling back and forth the day of the murder. At
- 35:42Speaker 1: the time of the murder. I would also want to
- 35:45Speaker 1: know the movements of the cell phones and any nav
- 35:49Speaker 1: system within these people's cars, not just the ex wife,
- 35:52Speaker 1: but the current wife, everyone connected to Jerry Bridigan. And
- 35:58Speaker 1: what if anything would that show me, excluding the possibility
- 36:02Speaker 1: of a burner phone. Go ahead, Yeah, when you look
- 36:06Speaker 1: at this, the watchword for this is specificity, and for me,
- 36:11Speaker 1: I think that the electronic footprint is important. However, remember
- 36:15Speaker 1: what we just heard. She said that there is a
- 36:18Speaker 1: lot of forensic evidence. There's another type of footprint, and
- 36:22Speaker 1: that other print that I'm interested in right here, if you,
- 36:25Speaker 1: like Kathleen was mentioning, this is kind of a tree
- 36:28Speaker 1: lined area. It's a tight area. And if you look
- 36:30Speaker 1: at this from a military standpoint, this is what the
- 36:34Speaker 1: military refers to from an ambush perspective as a choke point.
- 36:38Speaker 1: That means, you got it. There's precision here in Nancy.
- 36:40Speaker 1: It's narrowed down. You put an obstacle in the road
- 36:43Speaker 1: and the person has no other choice but to go
- 36:47Speaker 1: around it, pick it up, do whatever. If they are
- 36:51Speaker 1: laying in weight, which we have to assume they were,
- 36:53Speaker 1: that truck is not necessarily visible where they standing over
- 36:57Speaker 1: in the bushes. Do we have footprints there that could
- 37:00Speaker 1: lead you back to a specific person, say, if it's
- 37:03Speaker 1: a male, he's wearing a size ten and a half
- 37:05Speaker 1: boot or something like that. And I'd also be very
- 37:09Speaker 1: interested when you talk about precision, because this goes to planning.
- 37:12Speaker 1: This is not some kind of hair on scare on
- 37:14Speaker 1: kind of event I'd like doctor Duprie had mentioned range
- 37:18Speaker 1: of fire. I'd like to know about the shot grouping
- 37:21Speaker 1: on his body. They just talked about multiple gunshot wounds,
- 37:24Speaker 1: but I'd like to know where the placement of those
- 37:27Speaker 1: rounds were. Let's say, you know, from a military perspective, again,
- 37:31Speaker 1: two in the chest, one in the head. You know
- 37:33Speaker 1: where exactly was he shot? And also earwitnesses. Now we
- 37:37Speaker 1: have the baby in the back of the seat, you know,
- 37:39Speaker 1: the back seat. Unfortunately, God bless her. She's saying, I heard,
- 37:43Speaker 1: you know, boom, boom, boom. But what did the neighbors here?
- 37:46Speaker 1: Was it a quick succession like you would think precision
- 37:49Speaker 1: is associated with this? Was there shouting screaming? Was there
- 37:52Speaker 1: only one shout, one scream? Or where there multiple people screaming?
- 37:56Speaker 1: Because if somebody is doing this, they are purposed, they
- 37:59Speaker 1: are they know what they're doing. They're bold enough to
- 38:02Speaker 1: take a tire and throw this thing out in the
- 38:05Speaker 1: middle of the road. What else did they do? In
- 38:08Speaker 1: planning and sometimes in forensics, the planning, as detailed as
- 38:12Speaker 1: it is, that can be the one place where you
- 38:14Speaker 1: catch the individual. What happened to Jared Bride? Again, take
- 38:18Speaker 1: a listen to our cut eight our friend Jim Murray
- 38:23Speaker 1: at Inside edition two three goat. These are the last
- 38:28Speaker 1: images at Microsoft executive Jared bridagaan goating on his young
- 38:32Speaker 1: children before he was viciously shot to death in an ambush.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Now mystery surrounds who was behind the assassination on the
- 38:40Speaker 1: father of four in this upscale neighborhood in Jacksonville Beach, Florida.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Jared Bridagan was driving home with his two year old
- 38:48Speaker 1: daughter strapped in her car seat when police say he
- 38:50Speaker 1: stopped his vehicle to remove a tire left in the road.
- 38:54Speaker 1: That's when he was gunned down at close range, right
- 38:56Speaker 1: in front of his daughter. Police believed the tire was
- 38:59Speaker 1: left in the middle of the street to lure him
- 39:02Speaker 1: out of his car. Whoever did this is just vile
- 39:05Speaker 1: and cowardly. I spoke to Jared's heartbroken widow Irison. Investigators
- 39:10Speaker 1: say it appears this was a hit or an ambush. Yeah,
- 39:13Speaker 1: that is how it appears. If you have information or
- 39:16Speaker 1: think you have information, please dial eight sixty six eight
- 39:21Speaker 1: four five tips eight six six eight four five eight
- 39:25Speaker 1: four seven seven. SHANEA. Fernandez and her attorney deny that
- 39:31Speaker 1: Fernandez has any involvement in Jared Brightigan's murder. No one
- 39:35Speaker 1: has been charged or named a person of interest by police.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Goodbye Frien