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90 Day Fiance B90 S8 E14: Prepare for Immediate Descent; Single Life S5 E6 The Art of Breadcrumbing · 90 Day Book Club

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SPEAKER_00: The 90 Day Book Club is meant for entertainment purposes only and contains adult language.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the 90 Day Book Club.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm your host.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Jen.
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SPEAKER_00: I wromance for my day job, and in my spare time I talk about reality TV because if I don't, my political rage will consume my entire body.
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SPEAKER_00: This week I'm doing another combo episode of Before the 90 Days.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: Episode 14, Prepare for Immediate Descent and the Single Life Season 5, Episode 6, The Art of Bread Crumbing.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: At the end of the show, we'll scrub our brains with a little chat about books.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: No Laura and BeerCon this week, so I'm gonna start with Elise and Josh.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: It felt like this was a very Elise and Josh-centered episode.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: Um much is made of her possible sinus infection the morning after she arrives in Sydney and immediately is taken out to the bar for who knows how many drinks, but then it's never mentioned again after this after this morning.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: But apparently Josh did good.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: He took care of her all night, her coughing and shivering.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: She calls him such a good boy.
1:39
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm a needy bitch.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: I need my man to attend to me like a fucking golden retriever chasing a ball.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Joshua does that.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough, me too.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: I like I like to be a little bit attended to as well.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: When I'm sick, bring me smoothies.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: Bring me toast, not with vegemite on it.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: I like peanut butter and banana.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, she hates Vegemite.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: She's never heard of it.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, she tries it, but she doesn't like it.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: I feel like her never having heard of Vegemite is a little bit unbelievable.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: I feel like Vegemite is Australia 101, isn't it?
2:26
SPEAKER_00: But whatever.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: I I don't I don't love it.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: They go to the beach and she says, oh my god, the guys with the speedo things.
2:36
SPEAKER_00: I can't, I can't, because in other countries besides America, we do see a lot of men at the beach with small like speedo swimwear in America.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: Men generally don't do that.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: And Josh calls them budgie smugglers, which if you watch below deck, you've heard that point.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, can I say something not related to books or 90 day right now?
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Nobody's mad enough about below deck down under the current season.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Nobody's angry enough that it's not actually down under.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: It's called below deck down under, but we're in caravan in the Caribbean.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: If I want to see the Caribbean, I'll watch below deck the original.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: If I want to see the Mediterranean, I watch below deck Met.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: What is going on?
3:27
SPEAKER_00: I've heard a few comments here and there about oh yeah, it's down under, but it's not really down under.
3:32
SPEAKER_00: Why?
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Why?
3:35
SPEAKER_00: I come to below deck down under for the incredible scenery and the sea life, the marine life, not just Captain Jason.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: I love Captain Jason.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, don't call it below below deck down under.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: It's a travesty and nobody's upset about it.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, that's all.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: That's all I have to say about that.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: On the beach, Josh covers Elise with a towel so that she can change into her bikini one section at a time.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: Why didn't you put your bikini on under your clothes?
4:14
SPEAKER_00: Like a normal person, first of all.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Second of all, is this a towel from the Airbnb?
4:20
SPEAKER_00: I feel like was this just a white towel?
4:22
SPEAKER_00: If I if I remembering that correctly, who brings a plain white towel to the beach?
4:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, it's a little hilarious and pretty impressive though.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Like she does get in and out of her clothes and into the bikini uh it's a talent.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: It's a talent.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: But they frolic, they play in the water, and then later back on the beach, she says, she says to him that he is rather reserved.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: And he says he's reserved because he opened up himself in his last relationship, which lasted seven years.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: He said, I never felt good enough for her.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: He says she wanted me to be super successful.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: I was constantly being told that if I wasn't, she would walk away.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: And I'm closed off because of that.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: I have a thought.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: I would really like to hear the ex-girlfriend's perspective on that.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: And I want to know if that was actually his ex-wife that he was talking about, the one he has a son with.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: I feel like Elise is forcing this opening up and vulnerability conversation a little too soon because she just she said before she wants to wait to have sex until they're emotionally closer to each other.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: This conversation is really feeling like okay, so we're gonna be vulnerable real quick here a minute, and then we can go have sex because they are they're just really wanting to get there already.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: You can tell it's all over them.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's so cold when they get back to the beach that they have to shower together.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, she, by the way, showers with all her very expensive jewelry and bracelets on and lashes on.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: My question is, did you wear all that gold and all these expensive bracelets and your lashes to the beach?
6:24
SPEAKER_00: The waves, the wind, something is going to get lost.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: I feel scared to wear my wedding rig on the beach just because waves, even on the Atlantic Ocean, are so powerful.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: I I worry things are gonna get lost, but anyways.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: So they shower together.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: We're seeing a lot of skin here, and the shot is almost a little too much.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: It's really pushed in, and we we're we're seeing a lot.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, and Elise's talking head.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: She says, I know I said I wanted to take things slow, but I wanted to save water.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm a big environmentalist, you know?
7:02
SPEAKER_00: And she winks at the camera.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it was funny.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: Gino, take notes and how to wink at the camera.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Elise does it, just chef's kiss.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, after the shower, there's like this sexy jazz music going on, and it makes me feel very awkward to be watching this because I feel like this is the beginning of a porno.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: But Josh does good at first.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: He lights a candle, pours some wine.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: She comes out of the bedroom all clean, her wet hair into the living room.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, they are down for it.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: And in general, I would say, good job.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: This is a vibe.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: She comes out in this amazing bra and panty set.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even sure it's a matching set, but it looks very expensive.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a really cool bra.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: It's weird, more of her boobs are covered in this bra than her normal everyday tops that she wears.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: So they drink some wine and he immediately offers to give her a massage.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, here on the couch?
8:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but then he's got the massage oil at the Airbnb couch.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: Not a blanket in sight, not a sheet, not a mat, not on the floor.
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SPEAKER_00: On this couch that does not belong to them.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Not even a$50 kill tarp borrowed from Rick.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, she this is a nice couch.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: She's just gonna lay on there with her wet hair and massage oil everywhere.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: Come on, stop it.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, I will say this looks like a really good massage.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: He knows what he's doing.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: He's really sort of digging his thumbs in there, and he unhooks her bra with one move, very smooth, very easy.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: Gentlemen, take notes.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: And he asks if that's alright.
8:57
SPEAKER_00: And okay, here's where Josh gets some points for me.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: He's seems very much all about consent with her, and I love that, but I'm not sure she's all about that respectfulness.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: Also, Gino takes some notes about consent right here.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: As a life partner, I'm still lacking a lot of information about Josh, but right here as a sex partner, very respectful.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: She tells him to go harder with the massage, and um, in their talking head, they're together.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: And she says, I know you're trying to be respectful, but come on, don't be a little bitch.
9:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I didn't like that.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, she says, Grab my hair with the oil in it.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't have extensions for nothing.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: Rip me around a little bit.
9:43
unknown: Okay.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: And Josh says, I thought you said this is a family show.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: He laughs, uncomfortable.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: I think talking about sex and doing sexual things like foreplay on camera really, really, really make this man uncomfortable.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: And I I don't blame him.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Of course, Chris walks in in the middle of the massage, Kelisa's bra undone.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: It looks like he's coming home from work.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: He's got a laptop and earbuds in.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what they were planning.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: He could not have planned to do this on the couch and not been aware that Chris was gonna come home.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Is this was this intended to turn into the beginning of a porn?
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Was this intended to see if Lise was into a threesome?
10:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't have enough information.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, so in their talking head together with Josh and Chris, Chris says, There's better places in the house to give a naked massage than the communal area.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, I know, I know.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: I was blind with lust.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, ew, what did you have to say?
10:53
SPEAKER_00: It's so weird for, bro.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and Chris did not impress me on day one, but now I do think he's kind of funny.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: He's war, I'm warming up to Chris.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: So Chris walks out of the room, goes off to his room, and Elise says, Well, that just ruined the moment.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: And they're shared talking head.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: She says, This is exactly why I don't want a guy with a roommate.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: And Josh does this sort of blinking eye roll, thousand-yard stare.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: The next morning they're in bed, and Elise is trying to pop a pimple on his arm.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: Gross.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, the producers ask them if they had sex.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: They did.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: How many times?
11:38
SPEAKER_00: They did two times.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: She said missionary style and to the side.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: What we need to know that.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: The producer asks her about the painting.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: As you recall, Chris hung a painting of himself and hung it on the wall in Elise's room in the Airbnb.
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SPEAKER_00: Elise didn't see the painting while they were having sex.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: She says, Well, you didn't even fuck me doggy style, so I could not see the painting.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: And Josh just says, Wow.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: And then in her talking head, uh she lets us know it's the first time she's been with a man with an uncircumcised penis.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: She says there's no dictionary on how to use the extra skin.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
12:28
SPEAKER_00: Lily, is there something called the internet?
12:31
SPEAKER_00: The internet has information about that, I do believe.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: She's also confused about his rental situation.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: And Josh sort of hems and haws and says we were living together and then we had to get out, whatever that means.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: He says he left stuff at his parents' house, stayed there a week.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: And since then, I've been living with Nat.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: She lives closer to work.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: He fesses up to living with his female friend Nat, but he's been sort of hiding it.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I'm curious about this too.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, they are off to go have drinks with Nat and some of their other friends.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, how to describe Elisa's purple outfit here?
13:15
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's halter style that has like a band around the neck with like mesh over the chest, but then a big cutout right over the boobs, and then there's like this patch of fabric that goes roughly over the nipples like a strip.
13:39
SPEAKER_00: So it's like shaped like a bra or bikini, but barely covering the nipples.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: And then there's a matching super short skirt, so much underboob, so weight, oh, oh, always with the underboob, Elise.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: And why is he carrying her purse?
13:56
SPEAKER_00: And why is she carrying such a big purse to go out for drinks?
14:00
SPEAKER_00: They take a fairy to this bar that's like on the harbor in Sydney.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: It's very beautiful.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: They meet up with their friends and he proposes a toast to Elise.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: He gets it right this time, but then she criticizes him for the fact that he's smiling while he does the toast.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: But then he kind of jokingly goes really serious.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: I would like to propose a toast to Elise, and that was kind of funny.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: His friends do comment in their talking head about her skimpy clothes, but to be fair, they are also wearing, well, one of them is wearing a dress that you can see that's like sheer, you can totally see all of her underwear and bra under it.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: But I I mean they do seem very nice.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: They seem um a little bit wary of Elise.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: So in Elise's talking head, she says she's wondering if there's something weird going on with Nat, between Nat and Josh.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: And then at the bar with their friends, Elise says to Nat, Today I found out that he's living with you.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: And Nat says, Oh, I thought you knew that.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: So Elise is asking, how does that happen?
15:06
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, the same story.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: She lives closer to work, but then she says, I've had a bit of a rough time and needed someone with a shoulder to cry on.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: Nat.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: You could have gone to your grave and never said that.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: Just say, I live closer to where he works and stop talking.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: And I'm also kind of disappointed that Elise is weirded out by men and women being just friends.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: The women both say, We have a lot of guy friends.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: Are you, she asks Josh, are you paying, or is she letting you live there for free?
15:42
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, I'm a generous person.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: The whole conversation quickly devolves, and Elise says she has a financial hold on you.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: And her other friend says, Those are big words, and Nat is understandably offended by that comment.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: I think this went way too far, way too fast.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, Joss is trying to explain.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: She took me in, but it's understood as temporary.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: He understands he should have been more transparent with Elise about it.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: And Elise is talking head.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: She says, I put two and two together.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: He lied about living there.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: Something is shady, it's disgusting and weird.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I think she's severely overreacting, but we don't have all the information at this point.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot we don't know about Josh.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know what?
16:32
SPEAKER_00: I do believe his friends and that there is nothing going on there.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: Back to Lisa and Daniel.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh my god.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: The sign out front of the resort says, Whispering palms, the only thing missing is you and about a hundred other guests.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: But uh, we come back to them, they're still sitting by the fire, and she's just confessed that um she is still married to a woman and that she's only been with women for the past 21 years.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Daniel has stood up, his hands in the air.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: Don't come close to me.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: She's trying to talk to him.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: He's pointing at her.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Don't even try it, he says.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Lisa's saying, I wanted it all out before we meet your uncle.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: That's why I wanted another day.
17:25
unknown: Yeah.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: Daniel sort of whispers, Jesus Christ, but it sounds not like a curse, but as if he's trying to ward off evil.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: Lisa gives him a whole breakdown for no reason.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm not straight, I'm not a lesbian, I'm not a bisexual.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: I just think people should love people for who they are in their soul and not who they are on the outside.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's nice, Lisa, but you should be up front about who you are and what you are and what you've been up to in the beginning of a relationship.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: And also you don't get to talk about identity politics to this man when you've been lying about who you are this entire time.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea why she would play so fast and loose with the truth and her own safety, going to a country where this is culturally taboo.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: He calls her evil.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm not evil.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: I take care of people and have been taking care of you.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: You don't take care of people and you've been taking care of him with Juna's money.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Someone check on Juna, please.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: Someone check on Faith.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm still a good, I'm still a good person.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: He says, What makes you a good person?
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Sleeping with other women?
18:47
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm still the same person you fell in love with.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: He says, Don't say that again.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Shut your mouth.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, here's the thing.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe she was gonna tell him any of this, but then she realized as soon as he proposed at the airport with a parade that the pressure was on and he might want to get married right then and there, and she was gonna have to come clean about the divorce that's not finalized yet.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: I think that's just my thought.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: I think she thought she was gonna get engaged, trot back home to the US, take care of the divorce, and then tell them over the phone.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: This is what you're gonna find out once you watch the show.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Heads up, buddy.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, they work things out, and then they just slide easy peasy into a regular original 90-day fiance season, and then we're off to the races with the TLC money.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: Juna gets paid back for funding Daniel.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Maybe, probably not.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Has Juna been funding all these cute outfits too?
19:55
SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Daniel hands her the ring, the ring that she, the Amazon ring that she gave him on the first day when they got to the hotel.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: Remember that?
20:05
SPEAKER_00: He hands her the ring back.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: He like plops it into her hand like he's afraid to touch her.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, guys, he is super homophobic and grossed out by her right now because of the lies, but also because of the um lesbianism.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: He says, I've seen that from your head to your toe is full of secrets and lies.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Lisa walks off sobbing after she leaves.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: He says, I thought I'd seen it all, but she keeps on vomiting secrets.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: The waterworks are flowing during her in the moment interview.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: I just think a person loves another person, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: This is no longer the point, Lisa.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, you knew about this going in.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: She says, Daniel's not gonna accept me for who I am.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Fuck him.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Fuck him.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: The next morning, she's in another cute outfit, but with like this giant brown belt from the 80s.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: Um she says, I feel sad, but like a weight is lifted off my shoulders.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, scratch that.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, today she's got no southern accent.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: She says, until he says, I don't want to be with you, I'm not giving up hope.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: In his one-on-one, the producer asked Daniel why he calls her evil.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: He says she has so many secrets.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: He's thinking of a way to talk to his uncle, now knowing that she's been with her fellow women.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how I'm gonna face him.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: He says, I love Lisa, but after all these lies, I don't trust her anymore.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: So they head back to this, they head back to Lagos.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: There's no footage of them talking in the car.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: It's unclear if they rode in the same car together.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: But back at the hotel in Lagos, she says, Are you ever gonna talk to me?
21:57
SPEAKER_00: He says, We dated for six months.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Why did you never tell me?
22:01
SPEAKER_00: She says, I was scared.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: And then she goes in on the uncle.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Why does he need to know anything?
22:06
SPEAKER_00: What does he have to do with any of this?
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Daniel says, same sex relationships are a disgrace.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: It's against our tradition.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Well, not in America.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: He says, But you are here in my tribe.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: My uncle has to be involved.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: Now, my final thought on this episode with Lisa and Daniel.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, I did about five minutes worth of reading on the internet about the subject of the Egbo culture and homosexuality being taboo.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: And correct me if I'm wrong, but also it seems like that used to be fine, used to be totally fine to be in a same-sex relationship, used to be totally fine to even be transgender, gender fluid.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was colonialism and missionaries and the church.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: The Christian church that changed all of that.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: So way to go, guys.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Forrest and Sheena.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: So they are riding on the Jeepney to go see a lawyer to get a consultation about the K1 visa process.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: Those things look so fun to ride in.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says for once his head isn't hitting the ceiling too hardcore during the bumpy ride.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, in his talking head, Forrest says the vibe in the condo is really awkward.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: So she and I are trying to do our own thing.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: I have one week left and I don't want to waste any time.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: But at this meeting with this attorney, he learns that having disability benefits alone means his application will be denied immediately.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: He says he he gets disability benefits because of his autism.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: They help pay for his rent and food.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the lawyer says the petitioner, in this case Forrest, would have to earn$26,500 minimum in order to petition for a fiance visa.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Now, Forrest is in complete shock.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: He says, so this can't, this amount cannot be shared between the two.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: And he says, no, this must be the petitioner's minimum income.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: And I have to say, did nobody in the seven years they've been together do anybody research.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Do any not not a little bit of research, not Molly.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Not Forrest.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, we know Dev did not, but not Forrest, not Molly do any research for this.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Knowing this was gonna happen, knowing this subject was gonna come up.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says in the past he's had jobs, but they ended badly because he because of misunderstandings, uh, which is a shame.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: But I also feel like Molly has not empowered Forrest to be confident in a job.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Forrest is an intelligent man.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: I feel like he would be a good worker in the right setting.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't think Molly has empowered him, given him the confidence to hold down a job.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: But there are there are places where he could work and be successful, I think.
26:00
SPEAKER_00: The lawyer says he also needs one year of employment history, and then there's another year or two for the visa process.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: And Sheena's talking head, she says it is quite frustrating.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: She is the only one working.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: So she asks if there's other options.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: The lawyer says if you marry here and Forrest comes here to the Philippines, there is no requirement of financial capacity.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: He says there's a 100% chance that will be approved for him to move there.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: And Sheen is talking head.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: She says, I think he's gonna have to consider other options.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: My thought, has this been part of her plan all along?
26:45
SPEAKER_00: Has this been part of Forrest's plan all along?
26:48
SPEAKER_00: And this is just a lot of acting right now?
26:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: So they go for a walk to digest all this information later.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, I thought it would only take a couple of months to do the whole visa process.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: He's upset.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: He says, This is the biggest setback ever.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: She says, I know you want me to go to the US, my love, but why do we have to live in your country?
27:14
SPEAKER_00: That's my good question.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: She says, it's easier for me to stay here and I'm a professional here.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: I could take good care of you and help you find a job as well.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Ephora says, I don't know if I can leave my family.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, Molly might be making it easier on you to leave with the way she's been acting.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: And Sheena's talking as she says, I've been waiting seven years.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: If he leaves here, I could be the one stranded and hurt.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: Ephora says, I don't want to be apart from you for that long, but I don't want to give up on my mom.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Sheena's tears are real, but this is how she gets what she wants.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: And it's working on Forrest.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Jovon and Annalyn.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they've just had a fight at the Pedicurus.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: They're standing outside, and he says to her, Can I at least have my wallet?
28:07
SPEAKER_00: And she's saying, No.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't know who has the wallet, but I hope they tipped those people well before they left.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, Anilyn calls for a taxi.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: For a second, I think we're meant to believe that she's gonna leave him there.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: But then it's so comical.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: She has the taxi, this little tiny taxi, turn around, make a U-turn, and go like 15 feet to where Javon is standing.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Um and he and picks him up.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: This it's always the same argument with these two.
28:47
SPEAKER_00: They get back home.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: The dog is not having it with him.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: That little dog is barking his full head off.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: Um we're reminded again that he's 38 in his little Chiron.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm still astonished all the time that Jovon is 38.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: He behaves like he's an ungrounded 27.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn takes to the bed.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you have that praise where you are?
29:19
SPEAKER_00: I gotta take to the bed.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I take to the bed.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn takes to the bed.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Her mom comes in, asks what's wrong.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn gives her the rundown.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: She says that Javon wants to be the dominant one in the relationship, and she's tired of being treated like that.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Mom says, you should talk about it.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: Your pride is too high.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: In their shared talking head, Analyn says, I'm so tired of it, Javon.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: You want me to be this soft-spoken woman?
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Javon says, I'm not trying to get you to change.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: I've sacrificed a lot in my life so you can be happy.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: Even when I do things you want me to do, there's more to do.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: I just give up.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing else I can do to make you happy.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: And she says, I feel the same sometime.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: These two hate each other, and they should just cut and run before she gets pregnant.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: Although I kind of feel like that's too late.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the next morning, what is this large plastic thing on her counter?
30:24
SPEAKER_00: There's like a door on the front of it.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: It's like storing dishes.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: Is this like a dish drying thing?
30:31
SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Is it one of those like countertop dishwashers?
30:36
SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: So that morning, she explains to Javan, this was really interesting.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: She grew up with an abusive father.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: She watched her mother get bullied.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: So she developed a backbone.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: So she would not put up with being bullied.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: She says, Every time you say something sarcastic or arrogant, my reaction is to stand up for myself.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: And Javon says, Well, I'm hard on you, but I'm not aggressive.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: But dude, why are you hard on her?
31:10
SPEAKER_00: Why?
31:12
SPEAKER_00: She is amazing.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: She is a catch.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Why are you hard on her?
31:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: It's hard enough that you live in vastly different countries across the world.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Why do you have to be hard on her?
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Be soft.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Be soft with her.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: And I think you'll get much, much further in this marriage.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: He tells her, You're strong, but you're too strong.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: And okay, that deserves a punch in the nose.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: Not literally.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: I really don't want her to punch him in the nose, but I wanted to punch him in the nose.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: She says, Maybe there's a way for me to be strong and independent without lashing out.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Here's my thought.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, first of all, you should go back to your career in communications.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: Stop letting this whiny boy be the main breadwinner because he won't ever stop throwing it in your face.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh, moving on to Rick and Trisha.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, they've taken a little plane to Fort Dauph.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to say this.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: They've taken a little plane to Fort Dauphin, Madagascar.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: Everywhere they go in Madagascar, I am into it.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Even this little hotel near her village.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so they're packing to go to the village.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: And he says, I can't forget my baby wipes.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you guys wash your ass in the village.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Trisha says, We use water, Rick.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: I that's so offensive.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: Fine, bring your baby wipes.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: I always travel with baby wipes.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, a lot of people travel internationally, bring toilet paper with them.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Just shut your mouth and bring your toilet paper, bring your baby wipes.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to make a federal case out of it.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Trisha says, I don't like the way you talked to me last night, by the way.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as you recall, he was yelling at her because she dared to bring up the fact that she liked this restaurant or museum or or whatever it was once that her her her ex took her to one time.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Rick could not handle it and he lost his mind.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: He says, sorry for raising my voice.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: But I was so frustrated hearing about your ex.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: He says, I can't move forward if you're going to keep moving back.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: She says, I promise not to talk about my ex.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: I have a question.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: So she can't go through life ever mentioning her ex ever, ever, ever again.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you know what I think she's just trying to get through this meeting with her family without embarrassing herself.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: And she doesn't want to ditch him on the side of the road because that would be mean.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't believe she wants it to work.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking she's gonna dump him.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: She's just waiting for the final confirmation from her dad, I guess.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: In Rick's talking head, he says, It felt like she was taunting me when she mentioned her ex.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: He can't just apologize without the big butt.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: Just apologize, dude, and and then stop.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: Stop talking.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: And then he has the audacity to say, Do you think we could get a quickie in before we leave for the village?
34:58
SPEAKER_00: And she very emphatically says, What?
35:01
SPEAKER_00: No.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm proud of Trisha for keeping him at a distance.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: So they travel in a little tuck-tuck to her village.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: The scenery is so, so pretty.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: It's very rural.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: The roads are rough.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: He points out the metal roofs.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: I bet that's loud when it rains.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: And she says, yeah.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: Rick, we have those in America too.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: Rent a little tiny house in the southern states, and you will learn that yes, we have metal roofs in the United States too.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh she explains there's no running water, we don't have fancy toilets.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: It's simple, but people are very kind.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: She loves where she grew up.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Rick, the endless cavern of need, asks, are they gonna be happy to see me?
36:00
SPEAKER_00: She says, They're gonna be happy because I'm bringing home a boyfriend, and they will tell me if you are the good person for me or not.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: And Trisha's talking as she says, I feel a little scared.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: My family won't accept Rick.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: Men in my tribe are very strong.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: When they don't like something, they're aggressive.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: Rick thinks he can handle any situation, but he can't.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we know.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: So they are walking with their luggage through this little narrow alleyway.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: He's already complaining about the walk.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: This is a journey.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: And she's yelling at him, don't complain.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: A man who carries half his luggage in a trash bag should not be complaining about the lack of running water or having to sit on the floor or having to walk a while from the main road.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: A man who treats a woman the way you have treated Trisha better keep his mouth shut.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: But of course he doesn't.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, they get to the compound where her whole family comes out.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: Her dad, Russell, sister, Posey, brother, Randry, Uncle Tuvo, Aunt Jacseem, more cousins than you can shake a stick at.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: And they all seem very kind, very sweet, very pleasant.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then he says to one of her aunts, you look like my grandma.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Don't don't say that to a woman of a certain age.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, uh, he's a little taken aback that they have to sleep on bunk beds.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: They show him how to use the shower.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: And looking at everything for what it is, this is very nice hospitality.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: Showing a guest ahead of time before they need the thing, how to use the shower, how to use the toilet before they urgently need the shower in the toilet.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: That's very nice.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they have these reused water bottles hanging around the shower area with like shower gel in there.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: So he comments on the shower.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: There's no running water coming down.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: No, it comes from a well.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, so then they show him the bathroom.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: As they walk up, he says, I smell something already.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Dude, they can hear you.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: Trish understands you.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Her dad can understand some English, maybe not all.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Then they open the door to the outhouse, and it's basically like you squat on a wooden platform and make your deposit in a hole and you wipe with paper.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Sure, it's not used to what we're used to as Americans, but Rick shouts, and I mean shouts, oh hell no.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: They show him the paper for wiping.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: He says, This is paper to write on.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: You wipe with this?
38:51
SPEAKER_00: Tricia says, Yes.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: Like she's trying to shout him down and shush him.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: He's so embarrassing.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Rick, stop it.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, she says, I'm a little bit embarrassed of his reaction in front of my father, but I'm not surprised.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: Ever since he came to Madagascar, he complains.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: And then we get a montage of all his complaining.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: In case we forgot.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't like the traffic.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: They leave the meat out in the market without refrigeration.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: This is tight quarters.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: It's hot in here.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Shouldn't we have the long tongs here to move the fish in the fire?
39:27
SPEAKER_00: I want to know about the complaining that we did not see.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: And the next scene, they're all gathering in one room together to ask Rick some questions.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: The dad says, We accept you being here and give you a blessing to court her.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: They have like these silver bracelets and water with branches, and they splash him with the water.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: The dad, Russell, says in his talking head, the blessing helps them see their paths clearly.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: I really hope so for Tricia's sake.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: She sees this path clearly and kicks this man to the curb.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: So later they're helping prep dinner.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna have some goat.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy for Rick that he got to handle the room temperature, raw goat meat.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: So later they're back in the living room for the real interrogation, and he's uncomfortable because he his butt is tired from sitting on that mat.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: And then he sort of sits up and like kind of sits on his knees for a second, and the men totally mock him.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: So here's the here's the thing, my thought.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: You if you're gonna be all concerned about being built and muscly, you also need to stretch.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: You need to stretch that body, and that will make you more limber, it'll make it easier for you to sit on the floor for a long period of time.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Also, just you just suck it up in front of her family.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: This man does not know the meaning of just suck it up.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: So the dad asks him why he's here, what are his intentions?
41:04
SPEAKER_00: And he explains that he intends to marry Trisha.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: He says, How old are you?
41:09
SPEAKER_00: 52.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: Wait, what did they say?
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Was it 52?
41:12
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm 52.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, he's in his 50s.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: He explains that he has five children, three grown, two very young, the two young ones that he's hoping to be mothered by Trisha.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: They ask about kids in the future.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: They're explaining about the importance of children.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Rick's confused because he doesn't understand the language.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: Trisha turns to him and says, they want babies.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh Rick says they've not decided yet the looks he gets from all of these people.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: They know he is just trifling.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: They know he's a passport bro, right?
41:54
SPEAKER_00: And dad's talking head, he says, No matter what, children make you feel wealthy.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: If you don't have children, your marriage doesn't mean much.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: My thought, I well, I don't agree, this is not my culture, and this that's not and that's just one of the things that Rick is not getting.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: It's too bad that he just thought Malagasy women were so hot he went off to find one on a dating app, and now he's sitting here getting a talking to about babies.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is their culture, and don't mess around with things you don't understand.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: The dad has mixed feelings about this relationship.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: He's worried about what Trisha's future will look like.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: So are we all.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: Rick finally says to the dad, Okay, uh, I'll take it off the back burner and think about it seriously.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Nobody likes that answer.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: Next time on a 90-day fiance, uh Stig and Aviva are back and making corn tortillas.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: And it looks like they're having a serious discussion while Aviva, of course, has corn flour all over her face.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: Laura and Beercon are back, and Michael is telling Beercon that Laura actually made a move on him.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: Rick takes a cold shower and bitches and nons about it.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Emma goes to Casablanca, and she still has the ring that Mohammed gave her.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: Lise is freaking out about something and saying she wants to go home, and we see Uncle Modestus yelling at Lisa and calling her an abomination, and Lisa is pretending to hyperventilate and have a panic attack.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: So let's move.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: On to 90 Day the Single Life, season five, episode six: The Art of Bread Crumbing.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Let's start with Vanya.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: I love Vanya.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: They film her getting ready for the day.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Today is their official first date.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, Tony could not define what they did that day when they were completely alone at the abandoned carnival-themed theme park.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: Vanya says, I have butterflies, which goes perfect with the dress.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: So Vonye's in this gorgeous dress.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to describe it.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know anything about fashion, but I like okay, so the the top three fourths is like a sheath lilac dress with these little appliques on it.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: And from like mid-thigh down, it's a flared, flouncy sheer skirt.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: So so beautiful.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: She is just beautiful.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: But Tony.
45:06
SPEAKER_00: She opens the door and Tony, she says, is glistening.
45:12
SPEAKER_00: You could call it that.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: You could also say he absolutely sweated through his shirt.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: How long was he waiting out there?
45:20
SPEAKER_00: But he brought her flowers.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: He's picking her up in his Ferrari and booked a private boat ride.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: So okay.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Tony says in his talking head, if I don't make the push to show her I'm pursuing her, I'm afraid she'll walk away.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: So they're on the boat.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Tell me about your marriage.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Why did it end so quickly?
45:43
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, She was pursuing her PhD.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: I was working two jobs.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Our personal goals were never in line.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: So Vanya pushes him so there is a lack of time together.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: He more or less explains that it was a long-distance marriage that fizzled.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Then Vanya says, something else is bothering me.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: We went to Key West together.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: And then he fell off the edge of the earth.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: And I found out there's a girl living with you in your house.
46:15
SPEAKER_00: So this was six months ago.
46:17
SPEAKER_00: I guess Tony had a work trip.
46:19
SPEAKER_00: They had separate rooms.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: Nothing happened.
46:23
SPEAKER_00: But he had a girlfriend the whole time.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: And it still bothers Vanya.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, I was talking to this girl at the time we were at Key West, and I was, in a sense, pursuing her.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: He has a lot of qualifiers when he talks.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: Vanya says, So you didn't really tell me everything.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, Sort of like cocks his head, like, huh?
46:47
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Well, at that time, no, because we were not dating.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: And she says, When I found out about your secret girlfriend, I was confused, angry, disappointed.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: And my thought is, it's weird that you're such good friends and you wouldn't just tell her about your girlfriend.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: So what is he talking about?
47:12
SPEAKER_00: So Vonia says, You're telling me it wasn't that serious.
47:15
SPEAKER_00: And Tony says, It was.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Why did you take me to Key West if you were serious with her?
47:23
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, I was only talking to her online at the time.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: I didn't meet up with her until after the Key West trip.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: He says, I don't have to share those details.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: We were just friends at the time.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: Meaning him and Vanya.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: But you tell your friends these things, is my thought.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: In Tony's talking head, he says, When I was dating my ex-girlfriend, I didn't speak to Vanya.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: We didn't hang out.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: I tried to be respectful of the relationship I was in.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: Vanya didn't need to know as a friend.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: Vanya says, I thought we told each other everything.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Clearly, he doesn't tell you everything.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: Why wouldn't you tell your friend you have a girlfriend?
48:04
SPEAKER_00: That is very weird.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Tony says, You also dated someone shortly last year that I did not know about.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: Vanya says, nobody ever moved into my house though.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: That's a big deal.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: She says, you keep asking me why I put labels on things, and this is the reason.
48:22
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, she says, obviously, we have very different interpretations of what our relationship has been.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: Without labels, I'm gonna get strung along again and hurt.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: So after all that, Tony says, You want a label?
48:35
SPEAKER_00: She says yes.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: He says, I would love to be your boyfriend.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: Would you like to be my girlfriend?
48:39
SPEAKER_00: She says yes.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: And they toast and then they cuddle.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: That was such a whiplash, crazy turnaround.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand this couple.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, A for effort on the mechanics of the date, the flowers, the car, the boat ride, I guess.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: But I uh bottom line, I don't like this man for her.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, moving on to Gino.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Gino.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: So the next morning, after that potluck where he made his whack ass ham and cheese sandwiches, neither of them have talked about what went on.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: What the discussion was with Melanie.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: About Melanie asking Gino whether he's still talking to women, and then Melanie immediately running over to Natalie and saying he's still talking to other women online.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: They haven't discussed any of that.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, they're going to an escape room.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: Natalie hasn't brought anything up because she's letting him twist.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: That's why.
49:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie, I do enjoy an escape room.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Would I want to do an escape room with Gino?
49:56
SPEAKER_00: No.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: No.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, Natalie says he admitted to talking to other women.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: He's a freaking idiot if he thinks my friends didn't tell me.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: She's waiting for him to bring it up.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this okay, this the this escape room is a little bit meh at best.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: They're undercover FBI agents trying to bust an outlaw motorcycle gang and they have to escape the room in 60 minutes while the gang members are gone or something.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: They escape in 42 minutes.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: So good for them.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: Did better than I did.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Last time I was at an escape room, my my son chose uh chose one that was math-based.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: So I was stuck in a room with math and five other people.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: You can imagine how that went down.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: We did not make it out.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: No, we didn't we didn't make it on the clock.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: So after they escape, they are talking.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: Gino says to her that he feels like they could be together in a committed relationship soon.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, what does that look like to you?
51:07
SPEAKER_00: Do you want that with me?
51:09
SPEAKER_00: He says, I truly like you.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, I like you too.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: I just don't know how serious you are because I don't know if I have your full attention when you're not around.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: Will you be communicating with other women?
51:22
SPEAKER_00: Gino says, I don't want to say the wrong words.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, I just want to go home.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: Gino doesn't understand because I guess he thinks they were having a good conversation.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: She says, like, she's she nopes out.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: I want to go home.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: She leaves.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: He follows her, he follows her out to the street.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't think production had that planned for her to walk off like that because we break the fourth wall, we see the cameraman following her, and we see a producer walking around going, like, what's going on?
51:56
SPEAKER_00: So outside, Natalie says, I don't want to waste my time.
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Gina's Gino says, What do you mean, waste time?
52:05
SPEAKER_00: She just keeps repeating that she wants to go home.
52:07
SPEAKER_00: And he says, So you want to go home?
52:09
SPEAKER_00: Like she didn't say it 17 times.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: But he convinces her to sit down for a second and have a conversation.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: In her talking head, she says, he wasn't being honest.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: I could not look at that man's face one more minute.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: I asked him point blank and he didn't have the balls to tell me the truth.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: Gino says, I thought we were gonna continue to meet up and see how things progress, go with the flow, potentially turn into something more.
52:31
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, in the meantime, are you gonna be talking to other people?
52:35
SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna be seeing other people?
52:36
SPEAKER_00: I just want honesty.
52:40
SPEAKER_00: There's a long pause, and then he says, Yeah, I've been talking to a few girls, but I've not met any other women in person.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, but do you want to continue to talk to other girls and see me?
52:54
SPEAKER_00: And Gino says, um, I think so.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says, Okay, I appreciate the honesty.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: Gino says, if we develop into something more than what we are today, that would change things.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: Natalie says in her talking head, I had to do so much work to get him to tell me the truth.
53:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to have to pry something from him.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't 100% honest with me.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't honest when I went to Michigan and he's doing it again.
53:19
SPEAKER_00: This weekend was a test for Gino, and I'm sad to say he failed miserably.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: They hug goodbye.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: Gino says, This is not how I was hoping the trip would end.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: He walks her to her car and says, Look forward to seeing you again.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: She says, Have a safe flight.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: In his talking head, he says, I really don't know what's going on in Natalie's head.
53:44
SPEAKER_00: She's not telling me how she really feels.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, she is.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: In my relationship with Jasmine, she could tell you how it is many times, and it wasn't very pleasant.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Now I have the totally opposite vibe of Natalie, and I'm still uncomfortable.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: I have after tonight, I have no idea where we stand.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Gino.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Sophie and Pedro.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: So Sophie and Julia are waiting for Pedro at the beach.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: He walks up, very casual, kind of cold, but he lets Sophie give him a little hug.
54:26
SPEAKER_00: He hugs Julia way more, I have to say.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: They sit down.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: Julia says, How have you been?
54:34
SPEAKER_00: What is your mood?
54:36
SPEAKER_00: Do you like her dress?
54:37
SPEAKER_00: It is yellow like pino colada.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: Julia says, Welcome to Therapy.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: What is between you and Sophie right now?
54:44
SPEAKER_00: Blah blah blah.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: They agree to go on a date.
54:47
SPEAKER_00: He picks her up for their date.
54:50
SPEAKER_00: I need to know if this driver is his friend or if this is a guy they've been paying to drive around.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: It's the third time we've seen the disco ball in the car that he put in there.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: I really hope production is compensating the same driver.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: So they go to the beach and they go horseback riding.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: It's cute.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: They have fun.
55:09
SPEAKER_00: In his talking head, Pedro says, I'm gonna do my best to meet her in the middle and go at her pace.
55:15
SPEAKER_00: Is Pedro growing as a person I almost like this version of Pedro?
55:20
SPEAKER_00: This looks really fun.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: But then he says, Is this the most romantic date I've ever had in your life?
55:27
SPEAKER_00: Don't ask that question.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: Just enjoy the moment.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: But I have to say, Pedro looks really good in that sleeveless shirt with the lace up front and the white linen trousers.
55:38
SPEAKER_00: It's a very conscious choice for horse riding, I think.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: It's giving hot romance hero on a horse.
55:47
SPEAKER_00: So they play around on the beach and he is obviously checking out her butt.
55:52
SPEAKER_00: She calls him out on it.
55:54
SPEAKER_00: So he offers to show her his butt and he pulls his pants down.
55:57
SPEAKER_00: She says in her talking head, this is the Pedro I like.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: If he puts the seriousness aside and acts fun and silly, this is what I find attractive.
56:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but let's not forget he did buy her a really expensive bracelet on the first date, which was strange.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: But Pedro walks her back to her room and they have a little kiss, but then he goes ahead and gives a proper kiss, and then he walks off shouting and punching the air, and that and that made me smile.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: It was cute.
56:39
SPEAKER_00: We come back to where they are um meeting at the pool at his hotel after Courtney kicked him out for messaging, sending dick pics to other women, sending videos.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying.
56:56
SPEAKER_00: Colt is apologizing.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Says, I'm not doing very well right now.
57:02
SPEAKER_00: Courtney says, I'm not doing well either.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: Colt says, I caused that and I'm sorry.
57:09
SPEAKER_00: It's breaking my heart to see you cry.
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Courtney says, I just can't stop.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: Colt says, Courtney, please forget about me.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: I've done enough damage to you, to your parents, to your life.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: Here's my thought.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: It's like he knows who he is.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: He knows who he is, but he's not gonna change.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he's wheeling away, holding a box of his stuff that Courtney has brought him, and he's having trouble wheeling away and holding the box on his lap, and it's the most pitiful thing I've ever seen.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: And Courtney cannot take it.
57:46
SPEAKER_00: This is torment.
57:47
SPEAKER_00: She says, You need help.
57:48
SPEAKER_00: He says, You need to let me go.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: But she pushes him in his chair to his room.
57:53
SPEAKER_00: Colt says, I don't know if I can make a relationship last forever.
57:56
SPEAKER_00: I think people will be disappointed or bored of me after a while.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why I cheat or run away.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: He says, Being rejected for who you are is a lot harder than being rejected for your actions.
58:10
SPEAKER_00: I think that's Colt in a nutshell.
58:13
SPEAKER_00: He sort of like falls out of his chair onto the sofa and then he holds her hand and pulls her in for a hug.
58:20
SPEAKER_00: It's so strange and sad and comical at the same time.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: In Courtney's talking head, she says, I feel bad.
58:29
SPEAKER_00: I feel pissed off.
58:30
SPEAKER_00: As a friend, though, it's hard to watch.
58:33
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to know he's struggling.
58:34
SPEAKER_00: I want to help him.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: But he's very manipulative, and I don't know if he's going to play on my empathy only to go and be with this other girl in a few months.
58:42
SPEAKER_00: If I don't get out of this hotel room now, I might never leave.
58:45
SPEAKER_00: So she pulls away and says, I'm gonna go bye.
58:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, she just gets right out.
58:50
SPEAKER_00: I hope she just keeps walking.
58:52
SPEAKER_00: I swear, if we come back to next week's episode and she's turned around and goes back to his room, I'm gonna be livid.
59:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't think she will though.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: The next episode of Single Life, Kim is getting ready to meet with Larry, her son that she put up for adoption.
59:15
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna meet and talk about, she's gonna tell him about a daughter.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: So his sister that she gave up for adoption.
59:24
SPEAKER_00: Gino realizes he made a mistake with Natalie before he gets on the plane to Michigan.
59:32
SPEAKER_00: Pedro's mom is back.
59:35
SPEAKER_00: Are you ready for this?
59:37
SPEAKER_00: And it's time for a very quick little book club corner.
59:41
SPEAKER_00: I've started reading Rock Hard by Nalini Sang.
59:47
SPEAKER_00: I have not started a read-along yet, but if you want to find me on Story Graph, um, I will have a read-along set up fairly soon, but you can find me there under 90 Day Book Club, and I'll have a link in the show notes to that.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm currently in the process.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm currently in the process of finishing up another novella that's coming out on April 2nd.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_00: It's called Undressed, How I Fell from My One Night Stand.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_00: It is a small town, high heat, insta love, insta lust, insta obsession, insta everything.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's a one-night stand trope, as it says in the title.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_00: Very little plot, mainly vibes.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you're interested, I will put a link in the show notes to that.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_00: Please leave a review, leave me five stars on Apple and Spotify.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: That is the show for today.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening, and I will talk to you soon.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: Take care of the I'm not sure what I'm saying.