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Josh Sborz · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Carlin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. All right, we are here with
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World Series champion, College World Series champion.
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And I would argue most important 2008 AAU 15 U National Champion.
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Shout out, shout out. MVTVL stars our friend Josh
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Bors. Josh, how you doing?
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How's? It going guys.
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It's been a minute. For those of you that don't
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know, 'cause I feel like I've mentioned it a time or two on
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the podcast already. Josh and I played travel ball
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back when we were in 8th grade, oh, 8th, that would have been
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8th grade. That would have been going right
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into high school. And then that's pretty much
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where I peaked. And I mean, I went on to play
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college ball, but Josh went on to do much bigger and better
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things as I mentioned College World Series champ and now World
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Series champ. You know, we're going to get
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into the talk about the the World Series stuff, but let's
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let's look at what went into that process.
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And I'm going to open up. I'm going to open up by asking
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you about this whole Creed thing.
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I just we need to get that out there.
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We need to get that out there right off the top.
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Explain to me what this whole Creed business was about,
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because that took over the baseball world.
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All right, so a lot of monotony, right?
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Long season we we listened to music before the game.
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It kind of fluctuates. We hit AI.
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Don't know how many games in a row we lost like 10 or 11.
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So Andrew Heaney was just like, we need to mix this up.
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We need to mix, mix up the mixtape and turns on Creed.
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I think we turned around and snapped off like five in a row,
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something really good. And then it just slowly started
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to stick. Like more guys wanted to listen
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to it and you know, I think he put it out to the public and
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then, you know, all our fans started singing during the game,
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but you know, nothing crazy was came out of it.
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But it was more of just kind of naturally occurring.
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You know, like I said, a lot of monotony.
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It's a long season and just kind of breaking it up, something you
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haven't heard in what, 10/15/20 years.
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I mean, it's pretty old song, but you know, it's just kind of
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took our minds off the game and you know, made us closer as a
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team. I guess, you know, nothing,
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nothing crazy. Was it received well by
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everybody? Because I feel like.
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It could be rather polarized. Took a while, took a while.
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But you know, you you get a little superstitious with
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winning and losing. And we played it and we won that
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first game after losing 10. I don't know how many it was,
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but you know, then we're like got to listen to it win, got to
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listen to it and we just kept, kept winning, so can't change it
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what's what's working right. So keep it simple like Creed.
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Are you guys aware that like they they're like back on tour
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now because of this, like Creed is like they're going all in
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now? I will say they went to a game,
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I think against Houston and we got absolutely clobbered.
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I remember seeing that. I was like, yeah, that's they
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finally come out of hiding and that's not a that's not a good
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look for them. We like your music, just not
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kind of the games, you know? Yeah, that's crazy.
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I mean, that's kind of like what?
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That's like what the Phillies, that what's his name, Calcum
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Scott or whatever, the dance number.
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The guy got like a billion streams off that just from,
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like, Philly fans. And you got that was my wedding
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song. You got all of Texas just single
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handedly reviving creeds. I mean, I don't know how much or
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how little they needed the help, but I mean single handedly just
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bringing them back to the spotlight.
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So I'm all, I'm all about it. I'm a fan.
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You mentioned the Astros. What was the what was the vibe
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around the clubhouse coming down the stretch, You know, the the
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divisions kind of slipping away and then the last day of the
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season, you know, obviously it it slips through the cracks.
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A little bit. I mean, listen, that team's been
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the best team in our division for 10 years now, you know, per
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SE. Close.
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So we knew that, you know the ball was in our court the whole
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time and we didn't have the easiest schedule, but we had, we
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had our chances against the Angels, right?
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We had four games against them and I think we had four games
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against Seattle to close it out. You know we didn't play super
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well in LA, so I think we only took one game right?
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And we needed, we knew before the Seattle we had to win two to
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get in two to clinch, but lost the first game on in the 8th
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inning. Really frustrating for us
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because they, you know how the club bees prepare, they tarp the
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whole clubhouse. So we were coming in and you
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could see that they were taking it off.
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So it kind of kind of upset us a little bit that we didn't get to
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cherish that moment. I think we lost game 2-3 game
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set four-game set. We won the 2nd to last day and
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obviously we celebrated, enjoyed it, but we knew, we knew we had
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to win on on Sunday and so came into that game locked in.
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I mean no one really partied. We celebrated.
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You know, we we sprayed champagne everywhere, drank some
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beer. But you know next day everyone
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was ready to roll and you know, honestly, they just beat us and
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they won one. Nothing.
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Kirby pitched. I mean, I felt like you get a
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pitched all nine. He just dominated us, you know?
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But I think that loss and us not clinching us, clinching it
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fueled us because we had a 5 1/2 hour flight from Seattle to
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Tampa. And I think we were just really
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upset. We were just sulking in it the
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whole flight. You know, we didn't get our five
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days off in Texas like we wanted to.
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So you know, I think I think it worked out in our favor.
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Obviously we won, but you know I I think just that loss on the
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last day of the year to get you that clinch really fueled us and
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it put us to a different level. I think our focus, you know,
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our, our. I mean, I call it pissing us,
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but we were pissed every single day, every time, every game we
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had to play. We were just, we were a
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different breed, you know. We relaxed and come game time we
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were just ready to kill everybody.
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I wanted to ask you, 'cause like, obviously the whole I
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don't. I think there's some baseball
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fans that either hate or use this term all the time.
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But like the team that's early, right?
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Like, they're performing before. They were expected to show up
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kind of thing. Obviously the Rangers were kind
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of slept on. You know, just I know they made
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some big moves in the offseason, brought on some big guys, but
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like, hey, they're not quite ready yet.
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We're not expecting them to do much.
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And then you guys just take off in the first half.
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What was it like kind of coming back down to earth?
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Like, kind of walk me through what it was like saying, OK,
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like, hey, maybe we are a little too early for this.
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Maybe we are a little too young. Like, what was the thought going
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on? Like, what was the clubhouse
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like? I mean, yeah, I mean, I think
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even in 2022 we were top five scoring offenses, right?
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So like, we already had that on pretty much on lockdown in
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Simeon and Seeger didn't even have great years, right?
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So I think going in 23, we knew the weakness was going to be our
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pitching, right? It was like how how many innings
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can our starters eat? What's our depth look like in
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the bullpen? So I think, I think the first
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half of the year, I mean I know if we look at winning records
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against the opposing teams, the first half against us was a lot
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easier, a lot of losing records, you know, a lot of double UPS
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against, you know, the Royals play the A's a lot.
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So you know, I think we were we, we dominated from two straight
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months. We absolutely hit the crap out
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of the ball. We pitched enough to win games,
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but I think we came out of the All Star breaks still doing OK.
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We were starting to skid a little bit.
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I think guys were wearing out, Me personally, I was, I was
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toast at the All Star break and you start playing good teams and
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you play them a lot and you know that's when the grind starts.
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You know, I think first two months of the season is pretty
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relatively easy. I think most people would agree
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and it's you getting those dog days the last 2-3 months and
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your body feels awful every single day and you're just, you
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know, you just try to put your head down and look.
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But you know, I don't think there was ever too much doubt
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about how good we could be. We just kind of knew, you know,
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our ebbs and flows of the game. We were just really struggling
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at that time and you know we knew we just had to get through
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it stay close. You know, I think that was the
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benefit of us having a large lead in the first half was we
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were able to struggle and we weren't able like we didn't we
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didn't have to put pressure on ourselves because it we still
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had time. You know and you know sure
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enough we didn't win the division.
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But you know, happens it's baseball and it's hard and you
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know I think Houston played extremely well for the last two
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months and we just didn't you know.
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So I think you you just got to know that it's a long season
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there's going to be those those times where nothing goes right
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for you ever, right. And you just got to keep going
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with it, stick with it and, you know, stick together as a team.
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And I think that was the biggest part for us was we stuck
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together the whole time. You know, I think when we were
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losing, the guys were still the same.
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When we were winning, we were still the same.
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And just being that cohesive group, you hear that a lot.
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But I mean, our team had fun, we had fun, we competed, we did
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stuff off the field together. I I think that's why we won,
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because those moments never got too big or too low and we just
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kind of stayed even the whole way through.
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You mentioned the group that you're playing with.
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You would obviously be able to speak to a better, but from our
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perspective that looked like a rather fun bunch to be around.
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What talk to me a little bit about what that group was like
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on the field, off the field in those lows, in those highs like
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I mean you you mentioned it yourself monotonous long season.
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Yeah, I'm sure you need some some fun mixed in there.
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And it seems like that got that group was a good bunch for that.
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I think just the pure competitiveness of our team, no
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matter what it was, was, was what made it fun.
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I mean, we played cards, ping pong, any game you could
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imagine, like we have a little hoop on the wall.
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You got guys betting. I think just those little games
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where you know that switch of I'm going to win this constantly
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never ends, you know, So you play some ping pong, you know,
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you compete, you try to beat them and then you go take it
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into the game. So we just never, that switch
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never turned off. And I think, you know, see why
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the people he brought in, everybody was a dog, you know,
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everybody wanted to win, you know, no one was rude.
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Good families, good people. And you know, everyone kept it
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pretty light. You know, there's no real
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screamers. We just kind of did our thing
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and just stay together. I want to let's let's let's give
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you an opportunity to support a dude that probably gets entirely
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too much hate from baseball fans if you.
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Were I mean, I. Would if you were to try to flip
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the script on Jacob degrom and just flip the script on like who
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he is and like get fans to understand like, hey, this guy
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is legit. Like, what would you say to
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like, try and change the minds of fans that are like, he can't
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stay healthy, he's not worthy, like all this kind of stuff?
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I mean one, he's one of the greatest people I've ever met.
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Like he signed. I don't know how much money, a
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lot of money, $175 million contract I think, right?
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And he walks in the clubhouse and you wouldn't know that.
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And I think he's just one of the nicest, genuine guys.
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Great family, likes to have fun, hangs out with everybody.
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But I mean, listen, starting pitching is hard one, you know,
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so injuries are always going to occur.
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But I think he just kind of had one of those.
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He was with the Mets. The Mets were in that winning
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phase of their of their group and he just wanted to come back
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every single time. And he feel like he may have
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rushed it, you know. And he even tried to do it for
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us because he's that kind of guy.
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He's a competitor and he wants to be out there.
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I don't know how many times he, he said like this is, this is
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the worst thing for me just sitting out here watching so say
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that he's happy about being heard.
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It's just the most off thing you could say about the guy because
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he's he wants to be out there. And I mean obviously we want him
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out there because I don't think I've seen a picture in my life
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that's like him. The guy is just he could wake up
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and throw 100. He could wake up and not pitch
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for three months and still be the greatest pitcher I've ever
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seen. I mean it's it's electric, it's
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special Unicorn, you know? So yeah, I think there is a lot
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of hate for him about his injuries.
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But again, it's it's sports and stuff's going to happen and he
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had what, 4 consecutive years with 200 innings.
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I don't think people understand the toll that that causes
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people. And then you include the
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playoffs for those Mets teams. You know, he's pitching two or
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three times, throwing 120 pitches in October.
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So I think, you know, it just just wore him out.
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It happens to a lot of guys, you know, I think when you're the
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best pitcher in the the game, right, and you're hurt, you're
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going to get more hate. Just it's just natural.
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When you're the best, there's always haters, right?
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The better you get, always more and I think it just shows how
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good he is. But it is frustrating to watch
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how how people talk about him and you know, it's I think, I
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think this was the best thing for him.
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It's going to give him a year, a whole year off.
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Get that body right, you know, and just restart it.
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I think if you get 3-4 years out of Jacob degrom healthy, it's
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worth it. It's worth every penny because I
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do this. He's special.
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Give me a little peek behind the curtain because you mentioned
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earlier, like you were toasted by All Star break and you're
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talking about, you know, the the wear and tear of a 200 inning
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season, that kind of thing. Like, talk to me a little bit
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about obviously the arm gets fatigued, duh.
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Like throwing a baseball's so unnatural.
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Like according to our anatomy. But talk to me a little bit
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about, like, what that wear and tear is like.
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Is it the legs? Is it the back?
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Like what is it? It's everything.
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You know, I think those first two months you kind of feel
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good, right? You feel great, body's moving
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good. You know, you recover well.
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But then it just slowly, you know, day by day just kind of
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catches up with you. And you know, when throwing 97
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used to be at 80%, now throwing 90 sevens at 90%, right?
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So there's just that more, more effort.
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You're going to get more tired when you start trying hard and
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then it and then it kind of gets into your mental aspect of man,
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I'm getting tired, I need to throw this pitch better and it's
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it's that tough part of managing effort and control, right.
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You start trying to Max out how hard you throw, start spraying
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balls, these dudes don't mess. So it's it's just, to me,
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personally, I think it's a mental grind, especially being a
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reliever because it's an everyday thing.
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I think for starters is a little more physical just because you
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know they are going out and throwing 7 innings, 5 days off,
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Do it again. But I I think it's just a
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balance of both. And you know, it's, you know,
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when you have a good locker room, I'll bring it back up.
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You know, you go in there, you don't feel as good.
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But you know your boys are there, your friends are there.
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You know, people you care about are there.
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You end up feeling a little better.
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You know, you want to fight. You know, the fight becomes
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easier. But yeah, it's a nonstop.
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And so it's you get used to it, but you never truly get used to
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it, right? And it's you got to embrace it,
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I guess. You know, you got to enjoy the
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the UPS and the downs, 'cause you know, you are going to
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struggle. I I mean, I sucked for a month.
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I absolutely sucked. But you know, I stayed in it
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and, you know, great things came out of it.
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Talking about that emotional physical toll, is there somebody
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in particular that gave you extra headaches that added to
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that toll this year that you just couldn't to get?
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Past I mean, most of my wife keeps me pretty even keeled.
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She's got a really good good feel with you know how I'm going
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to act based on my performance. I guess.
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You know sometimes it's, you know personally me I guess, you
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know sometimes I get a little try to do too much.
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You know when you lose the game, it's going to really piss you
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off, especially as a reliever. Like as a reliever, if you
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pitch, if you pitch well, you're generally not going to get
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noticed right until the playoffs.
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The only times your notice is if you suck right, you lose the
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game. So, like those those moments
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kind of just stay with you for a while, but but hitter wise.
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Like, is there anybody? Anybody.
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Just Molly Whop. Me.
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Yeah, Whether. Whether I you can look at it
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either this year or just over the course of your career that
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in particular have given you a little bit of a headache.
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Statistically and I if I I have to face them multiple times for
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me to like really, you know put them on my list.
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I mean the Bregman, Correa combo.
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I don't want to know what Bregman's heading off me, but
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it's. I bet it's around 700 some.
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I think he has two double S but it's just so frustrating at bat.
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I struck him out in game five and I just absolutely lost it.
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It was a ball, absolute ball. Probably 2 balls out of the
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strike zone. Umpire called in just straight
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fist pump just because I got him out.
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Correa till, I mean those two guys just kind of, they just
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kind of hit the craft out of me. That's frustrating too, because
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they're both righties, you know, you're supposed to get right.
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He's out, I think. I think those two guys probably
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have the best numbers against me, and it's not really close.
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What is it? About Bregman, is it, is it the
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short arms? I feel like the hitters with
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short arms can typically hold their own.
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I mean. He's a really good hitter in the
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sense that he has a hole and he's going to if if you put it
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there, 3 * 3 out of five probably going to get them out.
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But if you don't execute that pitch in regards to throwing it
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as a, you might execute a slider but it's a ball and he's not
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going to swing at it And so he sticks to his plan.
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He never gets off of it And so you know you leak one anywhere
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near the middle of the zone single, you know he's he's not a
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guy that's going to go up and try to hit a nuke, right.
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So I think those guys are already harder to face just
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because they're there to do their job right.
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And you know, and sometimes I just don't execute pitches and
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he hits them, you know and I he knows his role, right.
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He's 2 hitter hitting behind Alvarez.
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He's just trying to set that table so he can do damage and
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he's really good at it, you know, and I just can't seem to
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get him out. Let's.
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Let's shift gears here because I know you don't have too much
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time, but let's let's talk this postseason run because I think,
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ourselves included, I don't think there was too many people
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at the start of the year that projected the season going the
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way it did, especially for you guys and obviously with the way
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it ended. But you get.
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To October. You.
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We we already talked about coming up a little short there
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with the division speak a little bit to.
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Jumping. Right into it because there is a
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whole national debate and it's been going on for some time now
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about the time off versus jumping right into it, the
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benefits or the pros, the cons to be in a division winning team
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versus A-Team that just like I said, just jumps right into it.
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You guys were obviously one of those teams.
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You went to Baltimore which we were there for and as at one
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point our lives pre like nationals and our Red Sox,
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Yankees fan hoods before those developed Nate and I were OS
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fans. We lived at Camden Yards.
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So we're hoping you know this is exciting for Baltimore.
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It's exciting for Camden and you all just rolled in and and just
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swept them out of the building. So that thank you for that I
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guess. I mean, that was it didn't make
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for a great baseball. But I'm sure you all weren't
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competing. But speak a little bit to just
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jumping right into it and and whether or not you felt that
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that helped or that hindered your all's yours.
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Yeah, I think. It's, I mean there's two
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viewpoints, I guess the standpoint of recovery, right,
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like you're going to be able to send your guys out.
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I mean, we were fortunate that our order was pretty close to
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what we needed, needed it to be in regards to facing Tampa.
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We ran out Vivaldi and Montgomery, right?
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So or Tampa, Yeah. Tampa excuse.
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Me. Yeah.
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Yeah. Sorry, I thought you went.
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Straight to Baltimore. I completely forgot about the
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the race series. Yeah, so everyone.
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We lucked out in regards to our order being right the way we
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wanted to from the start. So I think the only downside, I
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guess the upside of having five days off is your guys are all
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fresh and you know your order is going to be right.
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You're starting, starting staff will be right.
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The downside is it's different from what you're used to, right?
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You you're used to playing every single day, maybe off day every
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10 days or so. So kind of breaking that
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routine, that schedule just the mental side of relaxing, you
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know you you turn your brain off for five days, that is a lot of
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time off. Obviously you're still going to
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practice, but it is different and you know obviously for us
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coming down into the hunt at the end, I mean we were we were kind
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of just running through arms. We were just trying to you know
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get through it. So with our one day break we
23:24
just you know we got, we took our off day, most guys went to
23:28
practice, we played catch. So that was it.
23:31
So but again it's it's still routine.
23:34
You're used to just kind of being in that.
23:38
And yeah, so I I get both viewpoints.
23:41
I I understand people's issues with it.
23:44
But Houston didn't have a problem with their first series,
23:47
right? They they'd be Minnesota pretty
23:50
handedly. So it's it's a tough argument I
23:55
guess. You know, people want to talk
23:58
about it. They always need something to
23:59
talk about it. And it is worth noting
24:01
statistically, those teams are struggling now and obviously the
24:08
MLB is going to want the big teams in there.
24:10
You know, the Yankees, the Braves, Dodgers.
24:15
But you know it's a sport, right?
24:18
And you got to win games and it's not simple.
24:20
You know, it doesn't matter if you have 12 days off or 10
24:23
minutes off, you just got to win the game.
24:25
And that's that's all it is. You know, keep it simple.
24:30
That was the only part. Of that question, right.
24:33
Yeah, no. And like I said, I completely
24:36
forgot. And I completely forgot about
24:38
the Rays series. And Nate reminded me like, yeah,
24:41
the Rays are a rather forgettable team because in my
24:44
head, I had you guys going straight to Baltimore.
24:45
But yeah, I completely forgot you you you were in Tampa.
24:49
So yeah, that makes sense. Talk to.
24:51
Me about the facial hair decision that I need to know
24:56
where that came from, yeah. Well, in the 1st 2 1/2 months I
25:01
had a stash because I was pitching pretty well prior to
25:05
getting hurt. Yeah, not don't have a lot of
25:09
good facial hair anywhere, you know.
25:10
I was blessed with this and my brother was blessed with this,
25:14
but he has no hair up top so it's a trade off.
25:19
If you look at my College World Series days, I didn't cut my
25:22
hair for about two months and it looked awful in my hat.
25:27
So I ended up doing something really weird with my head, I
25:31
guess. I don't know.
25:32
My wife never liked it, never has.
25:36
But you know, let's see. I think we started with.
25:41
Yeah. When we started with Tampa, I
25:42
was like, I'm going to shave once and I'm not shaving till
25:45
till we're done. And sure enough, we kept
25:49
winning. Sure enough, it kept getting
25:51
worse into. November we go.
25:54
And sure enough, I'm general Spores from Civil War.
25:58
You know, I don't. I don't have anything on my.
26:00
Chance it's a. Bad look, you know, if I had to
26:06
go back and they said, hey, you're going to look really bad
26:09
on national television, but you're going to win a World
26:11
Series. I do it, you know, No one,
26:16
really, no one really looks bad when they're holding
26:18
championship trophies. You're asking me that's?
26:20
Exactly right. And for what it's worth, it from
26:23
our point of view wasn't wasn't too noticeable.
26:26
Maybe. Maybe just some.
26:27
But to me it looked like you had a pretty strong beard, but you
26:31
meant Now you mentioned the thing about not having anything
26:33
on the chin. I might have to go back and look
26:35
and see if it was. Yeah, there's.
26:36
There's a gap on like the sides of my mouth and so they don't
26:40
can I have hair on the chin? It just they don't can shops.
26:43
It doesn't connect at all. Have you guys seen?
26:47
I think it's rookie of the year the little kid that throws hard
26:50
from the clubby in there. He has the same thing.
26:54
Almost. I got, I got called that and
26:57
then Marv from home alone. Honestly, I was pretty.
27:03
I like that. I like the comps.
27:05
It worked out for me. But yeah, I don't know.
27:09
I just seem to do something stupid every year.
27:14
Let me let me ask you a little bit about the World Series, and
27:17
you can be honest, we're not, we're not going to, we're not
27:20
going to put you on blast here. But as a baseball fan, because,
27:25
like I mentioned, you and I grew up playing baseball together, I
27:28
knew you You very clearly loved the game as a baseball fan did.
27:36
Did the matchup of the Texas Rangers and the Arizona
27:39
Diamondbacks move the needle for you guys, or were you hoping it
27:42
would have been something somebody else?
27:45
I mean, their team was tricky. You don't play that style of
27:52
baseball anymore, right? Like that is I don't want this
27:57
sound disrespectful in any regards of their play.
28:00
But like, it was more of a college ass.
28:02
We're going to beat you with speed.
28:04
Good defense, good pitching. We're going to bump.
28:06
We're going to move guys. We're going to hit singles turn
28:09
them into double S So we were we were pretty worried about them.
28:13
Honestly. I think we looked at the
28:15
Phillies or them. The Phillies have a lot of
28:18
dudes, right? Really good team.
28:21
But they had a lot of swinging mess and we as a pitcher you
28:26
like that this team not so much going to put the ball in play
28:30
try to make it hard on you so and I think going into watching
28:36
the Phillies play them we were a little worried as well.
28:39
I mean Diamondbacks were hot. You know it's sometimes it's not
28:43
about how talented yards who's who's playing right at the right
28:47
time right. And so we weren't really, you
28:50
know, thinking Oh yes, we lucked out or oh shit, we're we're
28:54
we're playing the best team in the world.
28:56
You know, I think, you know, we were going to just approach it
28:58
like it's a normal game. You know, we're going to get a
29:00
scanner report. We know what they like to do and
29:03
we're going to try to adapt. To me, I mean personally I don't
29:09
really hold runners on. So you know, I was a little
29:12
worried that they were just going to steal.
29:14
You know, I lucked out that I only pitched twice in the in the
29:16
World Series. But yeah, it it wasn't, it
29:22
wasn't like a Oh yeah moment. It's just let's do it again.
29:26
Let's win it, you know, I mean, the playoffs are a month and a
29:29
half long, You know, we get there.
29:31
Might as well freaking win it, right?
29:34
Absolutely. I love it.
29:35
And I feel like I. Should have.
29:36
I feel like I should have led off with this.
29:38
For those who are unfamiliar because, my friend, do you put
29:42
up some fantastic, fantastic numbers this postseason?
29:46
12 innings pitched. It held hitters to A103 average,
29:50
just allowed four hits, an ERA of .75.
29:54
Only one run allowed a WHIP of .67 and 13 KS.
29:59
That's good that. The one run was pregnant too, by
30:02
the way. Well, well, now we.
30:03
Now we know. Now we know it.
30:04
It makes a little little more sense, a little more sense.
30:06
But I I wanted to include that because that was a speaking
30:11
specifically about your work, your body of work that you you
30:15
put out there that that was impressive to watch and it was
30:17
cool to see ultimately result in A at a title.
30:21
So that was that was awesome. Yeah, it was got healthy at the
30:25
right time. You know, I think I was blessed
30:29
that our team had the depth to let me kind of recover.
30:33
I mean, had to go on the aisle for my shoulder right after the
30:37
All Star break. And then I went to IO for my
30:40
hamstring in September. And listen, I just started
30:46
feeling good at the right time. You know, I was able to recover.
30:49
They gave me 20 days off. And so for me, I was just
30:55
getting my hamstring right. I was still having shoulder
30:58
pain. But you know, I think you look
31:00
at my first two or three months of the season, I was pretty
31:03
close to that. I mean, I think I had a stretch
31:06
of 17 innings of no runs, 15 innings somewhere.
31:09
So it was just about getting back to being healthy for me
31:12
personally, you know, my mental state.
31:16
And then I think every series I played, the first game of every
31:19
series, I was a little nervous. But after that, I was cool,
31:23
calm, collective. But yeah, I just, you know, I
31:29
said I was healthy at the right time.
31:31
It helps to have a really good defense and it helps to have a
31:34
really good Gold Glove catcher, helps to have a really good
31:36
offense. You know, like you look at, you
31:39
look back at that team, there weren't too many holes,
31:42
especially in a playoff scenario where we can just run the dudes
31:45
out after, Dude, it's pretty scary team.
31:48
I think if you look back at it now, just kind of peer offense
31:52
we had. I mean, Seeger was freaking
31:56
unconscious the entire year. I mean, good luck facing that
31:59
guy. You know, we have a good thing
32:03
going, him and I. He knows that if we face each
32:06
other, I'm going to throw on the fastball up and away and he's
32:09
going to hit it. He's going to get the crap out
32:11
of it and we're going to move on.
32:12
She's not going to waste pitches with him.
32:15
Give me a story. I'm going to put you on the spot
32:19
a little bit. Give me a story I need.
32:22
I need two stories from you. And keep him somewhat quick if
32:24
you want. What?
32:27
Makes Maddox and Bochy Hall of Farmers like first hand story,
32:35
whether it's from spring training or this year.
32:38
Just a moment where you were like these two guys are the best
32:41
to ever do it. I mean, Bochy's a little bit
32:48
easier in regards to he's the head coach, so he kind of
32:51
controls everything, right? And I think I've always had a
32:54
pretty good idea how a bullpen is wrong, right?
32:57
I I like to try to prepare, so I'm ready to go in the game when
33:01
I think I'm going to go in. And I think the first thing I
33:04
learned from him is you're always wrong.
33:08
So just don't ever think about it.
33:10
You know, he's he thinks of the game a little differently.
33:13
And I think there was one game. I think it ended up being, you
33:19
know, Seattle. I was in the 4th inning month
33:23
and 1/2 in the season I ended up going two innings, but that was
33:27
the last time I was like, oh, 7th inning.
33:29
I'll wait till then. Just his thought process, I
33:34
guess. There's no true story with him.
33:37
I think he's just a genius. I think he sees the game
33:40
differently. You know, when they talk about
33:42
Michael Jordan, those kind of guys, you can't, you can't teach
33:47
what he does. You can only appreciate it,
33:51
right? Like Michael Jordan couldn't
33:52
teach you how to play basketball because he sees it completely
33:54
differently human. And I think that's, that's what
33:57
Bocce does. I think.
34:00
I think in the playoff time, he knows exactly what he wants to
34:02
do and he spends all year preparing you for those moments.
34:05
And that is it. You know, you look at his San
34:09
Francisco teams, same thing. They just squeak into the
34:12
playoffs and then they become the best team every single year.
34:16
And I think especially going into this one, we knew we were a
34:21
little more confident. Just knowing that this is what
34:23
he's accustomed to, This is a game plan is what he lives for.
34:29
I mean, Maddox, let's see. I mean, shoot, you helped me a
34:33
lot. Stories, guys are really good
34:36
joke teller and loves to play golf.
34:38
So you're already kind of a good pitching coach, right?
34:43
And if you're a pitcher, you got, you got to play golf.
34:45
And I think we had a we had a bingo card of all of his sayings
34:50
that he'll say during a scan report.
34:52
I can't say him. I can't repeat him, I promise.
34:58
And we played bingo for two or three series and he loved it.
35:02
You know, he loved his little sayings, but I don't know, I
35:06
don't really have a good story for him.
35:07
But I don't know as a as a reliever you don't necessarily
35:12
spend that much time with with with those guys.
35:15
So we kind of just we kind of just sit in the bullpen and Dick
35:18
around so that their thing comes around.
35:20
So we're not necessarily locked in the whole time.
35:23
Well, on that, is there somebody in particular or maybe even two
35:27
or three guys that you're particularly close with on the
35:30
team, whether it be? You.
35:32
Know the pen I mean. Elsewhere, I mean Brock Burke, I
35:38
think when the grom came, when the grom got hurt, he started
35:42
coming down to the bull pen and hang out with us.
35:47
I mean, honestly, our bull pen was kind of just cool overall.
35:50
Leclerc, you know the Latin, speak English, we're all we're
35:54
all allowed to have fun. You know there's no like groups,
35:56
no posses. I mean Pico and I are pretty
36:01
close to guys, just an absolute just smiling savage, you know,
36:06
he's he's the only guy I've ever seen smile in a World Series
36:09
game during the game. But yeah, I think Burke and I,
36:15
we played pretty much did everything together.
36:17
Stratton too. I'd play Burke and ping pong and
36:21
I'd play video games. Stratton and it was just kind of
36:24
carousel back and forth between those two guys.
36:28
But yeah, good group, man. Everyone just kind of liked
36:30
everybody. The old ELE, you know, everybody
36:33
loved everybody type deal. We just, we did everything
36:36
together and we did team dinners.
36:38
It was 2526, guys. You know, everybody wanted to
36:43
come and I think that's, that's why we were good.
36:47
I got to ask, is Chapman like, what's?
36:50
What's his deal? Is he just in his own little
36:52
world all the time? Like, I I can't imagine what
36:55
goes through that guy's head, especially like on a game day.
36:58
Listen, he's. The most intimidating dude.
37:02
I think if you you guys should go back and look at when he hits
37:07
people. Not on purpose.
37:08
Most he rarely hits people with intention.
37:13
He will walk towards the guy first thing he does and he did
37:18
it to McCormick and the Astros. So he's he's pretty terrifying.
37:23
And then you get to see him in the in the locker room and you
37:27
see him in the gym and this dude is not warming up and just
37:30
rolling out 315 squats just no warm up.
37:34
Gets it up to 450. No problem.
37:37
Incline press 315. No problem.
37:40
You know he just moves weight every single day and it's.
37:44
I personally enjoyed it. Just watching this dude be a
37:48
savage in the weight room and throw 102.
37:53
You know he's in his own world but don't pop that chair and
37:58
he'll come on. I mean we we got a little
38:01
scuffle with Houston I think. I mean he was amazing.
38:05
He said I don't know what team it was but we he was out there
38:08
so fast. He he's he's the guy in the
38:11
front, ready. For the smoke, happy.
38:14
Guy man. Really happy.
38:17
Really. OK, Smile, You know, Obviously
38:20
game time's a little different, but good teammate don't have
38:26
anything bad to say about him. And if I did, he would come
38:30
kill. I'm just kidding.
38:32
There it is. All right, I got an.
38:34
Easy one for you. Would you?
38:36
Rather have Chris Young's height.
38:42
Or a. Dulles's biceps.
38:46
Oh man. They're both pretty beneficial
38:48
though. Being athletic, I think adults
38:53
is Biswap, I think. I think there's some struggles
38:58
with being 610, you know, a lot of doors, a lot of ducking, just
39:04
a lot more body to move. Honestly, I take both.
39:08
But you know, if I had to pick, yeah, good biceps, you know,
39:12
never hurt on the little beach photos, have you?
39:14
Been like, have you, I'm assuming, like, MLB guys like,
39:18
kind of intermingle with other athletes, right?
39:22
Like, have you seen Adolas next to a football player and just
39:26
been like, like, he could just slide right in?
39:29
He looks like a freaking middle line.
39:31
Yeah, there. Was let's see, I got, I came
39:35
over to the Rangers in 21 and so it was kind of like a week into
39:40
spring training. So there was no, no spots in the
39:43
big league locker room for me. So I was at the minor league
39:47
side and he, sure enough was my locker mate.
39:51
And I took a look at him, didn't know anybody.
39:55
And I I asked myself, I was like, when did we get Adrian
39:59
Peterson? Because he's bald, the same,
40:03
almost identical bill. Obviously, you know, Adrian
40:06
might have been a little bigger, but he's a spouse man and.
40:11
Yeah, I mean, he does all these things, I think that walk off
40:15
and run. He hit against game one, just
40:18
showed how athletic he was because it was a pretty bad
40:21
swing on that ball. Just kind of guessed wrong and
40:25
he still hit it out opposite field.
40:28
You know, 3340, no problem. You know, it's just an absolute
40:33
freak. Those Cuban guys, man, they're
40:36
they come out a little differently.
40:38
You know when they when they hype those Cuban guys up, they
40:40
normally don't mess because they're usually just absolute
40:43
freaks. So you got to tell me.
40:50
What I. Mean.
40:51
What is it like pitching in a World Series?
40:55
Like we've we've talked to guys that have have played in World
40:58
Series of one World Series. But I just, I have to think that
41:03
pitching in a World Series requires just such a unique
41:06
mindset, especially a late inning leverage guy where like
41:11
you were talking about the the microscopes going to be on you,
41:14
they're only going to talk about you if you do poorly.
41:18
What I mean what is that? What is that like?
41:22
Oh, I mean, listen, the World Series, both games.
41:27
I was, I was pretty nervous. I don't know.
41:31
I think, you know, I said it before.
41:35
I was fortunate that I had Jonah.
41:36
I'm calling the game right. When you have a catcher that
41:39
absolutely knows every single hitter it it it makes you think
41:43
a lot less. And I think that's the biggest
41:46
issue in baseball is yourself. You know, you if you get in your
41:50
own head, you're tough, you have no chance.
41:53
So I mean I essentially just tried to turn my brain off.
41:56
Don't think, just execute that pitch, worry about what happens
42:01
next, you know, and just kind of being overly simple
42:06
compartmentalized things to the to the sense of if I throw this
42:10
curveball, I'm going to throw it as hard as I can in the location
42:12
I want it and that's it. Not not going to worry about the
42:15
guy in first. I'm going to worry about the guy
42:17
in 2nd and just keeping it again, abundantly simple.
42:25
Like I said, when you have that, when you have the ability, I
42:28
mean I have pretty good stuff. You have elite trust in your
42:32
your catcher and your defense. It makes it a lot easier.
42:36
I mean, there's nothing worse than you guys played than having
42:39
a bad catcher and pitching or having a bad defense and
42:42
pitching. You're going to try to do too
42:44
much. Bad things happen.
42:46
You know, in this league, they don't miss.
42:48
You know, you hang a pitch, they do not miss the ball.
42:51
And if they do, you lucked out and you know you did.
42:57
So yeah, just keeping it simple, don't let the moment get too
43:01
big. You know, worry about that one
43:04
guy. I think the cool thing with
43:05
this, with the playoffs is you're not really going to face
43:08
too many guys, right? You you show a sense of
43:11
weakness. You're going to get taken out of
43:12
the game immediately. And so just knowing that these
43:17
three guys are probably the only three guys I'm going to face,
43:20
that's it. Let's let's get them.
43:22
And scouting reports are obviously a little better too,
43:24
so it helps well. I saw it.
43:27
You mentioned the three guys that you assume you would face.
43:32
I saw they interviewed you shortly after the game and you
43:37
were talking about how if you thought you were going to come
43:40
out for the ninth, you wouldn't have fist pumped the 8th.
43:43
So it's safe to assume that you because myself, Nate and I, we
43:48
were going back and forth about it as we're watching the game.
43:50
We're like the sport is really, really about to come back out
43:53
here for the 9th. And sure enough, I think to the
43:55
surprise of just about everyone, everybody.
43:58
Made me myself completely OK. So I wanted to wanted to confirm
44:02
that you you certainly just were.
44:04
Completely so yeah, it was. We scored.
44:07
I think it was 1. Nothing.
44:08
All right. Yeah, one nothing.
44:10
Going into the ninth, he had told me that I was going back
44:13
out. So in my mind Perdomo was up
44:16
first. I was AI was AI thought
44:19
personally I was a better matchup for him than Leclerc was
44:23
right? Not as good on curveballs, a
44:26
little bit better on sliders, change UPS.
44:29
So I knew right off the bat if I was going to out it's just going
44:33
to be him, right? We ended up scoring 5 S four
44:35
runs. So it was a little different
44:37
that the game changed and then got him out.
44:42
I think strike out looking, then Carroll comes out.
44:46
Not a super good match up for me.
44:48
I don't have anything that's going to.
44:51
He's more of a change up heater guy, don't throw a change up.
44:56
Only pitch against him is a curveball and he hits him pretty
44:59
good with his little scoop swing, thank God he hit that
45:05
fastball up, fouled it off to the catcher.
45:08
I was running out of gas and then they didn't come out.
45:12
So I was like, well, I will finish this shit Marte.
45:18
Also another not a great match up against me.
45:22
It's a pesky. Bunch, man, that mean they you
45:24
you're talking about that they they don't get out easy there.
45:28
Was a reason they were there. It wasn't like a shock to
45:30
everybody we played them in. We played them four games.
45:33
They beat us three times the regular season.
45:35
And it's it's you. You don't play against that
45:37
team. It's it's different, you know?
45:41
Obviously, I went to, I went to Virginia, and then when our
45:43
basketball team won, it's the same thing as, like, you're just
45:46
not used to that type of focus on defense, right?
45:49
We look at basketball more of an offensive thing.
45:53
They just, they did stuff that no one else really in the league
45:56
does, and it's what it's why they were there.
46:00
It wasn't like I said, they were leading that division for most
46:03
of the season. They just kind of the Dodgers
46:05
got hot, they had some injuries. So it was a little Tess.
46:10
We knew they could be there. They deserved it.
46:14
Yeah, Kettle, I think. I think I had two crew at bats.
46:21
He does against me and I think I've walked them on twice on 9
46:24
pitches. Pretty uncompetitive at bats.
46:28
I don't think I really threw them too many good pitches
46:30
either that I bat. Just kind of like some loopy
46:33
high curveballs. I mean, I was running on the
46:36
end, you know? Just not I knew.
46:38
I knew like, we were that one out away.
46:41
Jonah was in beyond home plate telling me to breathe.
46:44
So yeah, I think I threw another hanging curveball and he took it
46:49
and there's a celebration, you know?
46:52
But yeah, I never thought for a second I was ever going to pitch
46:55
tonight. I think Leclerc had closed out
46:58
every single game we won, so I figured they were going to give
47:01
it to him. But it's cool how it worked out,
47:06
you know? I was happy I got to finish
47:08
plays out the first championship for the Rangers.
47:11
But yeah, everybody was shocked, just as myself included, you
47:16
talk to anybody like. Super, super cool since this has
47:20
happened. Like, have you been starstruck
47:22
by somebody after winning it? I got to talk to you know, like
47:29
I guess in baseball world I think I've always thought Joe
47:31
Madden was an interesting guy and I got to go on his podcast
47:34
and he's another one of those guys just outside thinker.
47:38
You know, I just wanted to pick his brain because he's just,
47:41
he's out there and I think, you know, people are always afraid
47:45
of the unknown. But I've always liked to explore
47:47
it, never really been afraid to kind of do for me pitching stuff
47:52
like weird lifts, you know, things like that.
47:54
I've always just tried to embrace it because there's
47:56
always a different viewpoint and you know, just being open minded
47:59
to things. Obviously you got to be in
48:01
control but being open minded to something could change your
48:05
life. But you know, no one crazy I
48:08
guess. I mean the thing with
48:12
celebrations, they're so short. Right.
48:14
So you don't really, you don't get to really go out to the
48:19
clubs. I mean I have two kids so you
48:21
know, you know, my my part is when I come home, you know,
48:24
that's what I live for. But yeah, no one crazy.
48:28
I thought he was pretty interesting guy.
48:32
I think our. I think our team kind of.
48:34
We didn't really let too many guys in.
48:35
We got to meet Bush, George W He came to a few games.
48:41
I thought that was cool. Shook his hand.
48:43
Good dude. So you don't know I'm crazy.
48:49
I wish I had somebody cool to say but Nah Nolan Ryan like did.
48:53
Have you? I'm assuming you've had a convo
48:54
with him, right? Shaking his hand.
48:55
Yeah. Can I can I just jump in here
48:57
real? Quick, Where was I?
49:00
Completely oblivious to where he was at, because I feel like any
49:04
other Rangers game I'd watch. I feel like they always show him
49:06
sitting in the seats, but I can't think of a single time
49:09
where I saw them actually show where he might have been.
49:12
He might have been in the. Suites with the owners, There's
49:16
some bad blood. Not, not with the Rangers, but
49:22
some past things happened, I guess.
49:25
You know, I'm not be the one to talk about it.
49:27
I don't know. I just know there was a little
49:29
rift, I guess. But it'd be hard to believe that
49:33
he didn't come to those games. I mean, yeah.
49:37
I. Mean the guy who was the Texas
49:39
Ranger. I mean, arguably the best
49:41
pitcher ever, you know, I guess just just an absolute dog
49:46
through 5000. Names 5000 Strikeouts.
49:49
I mean Oh yeah, I know it's it's sad because that's one guy I
49:53
really haven't met. I would love to just hear him
49:56
speak. But I'm hoping that changed now
50:00
that you know the dynamics have shifted a little bit in regards
50:03
to our our staff and you know we are not 100 loss team.
50:08
We are a 9894 win team with the World Series champion.
50:13
So I'm hoping, hoping that change.
50:15
I know you got that. That's a picture behind you
50:17
right, of him. Oh yeah.
50:19
Oh yeah, that's him. Take me inside.
50:24
I mean, I'm sure you've gotten asked this question like 1000
50:26
times, but take me inside your mind the.
50:31
Strike to end it. Glove.
50:33
Spike, I'm. I'm assuming you just blacked
50:36
out. Like what?
50:37
Take me, take me through your let's.
50:41
See, I mean, my heart rate was pumping.
50:44
You know, you can, you can taste that victory.
50:46
And I think I was lucky because it was a five run lead.
50:51
So I got to like kind of savor it a little bit.
50:54
But I saw Daniel Hudson do it with the Nationals, the glove
50:59
spike and I absolutely loved it. I never really thought about a
51:03
celebration. I didn't think, like I said, I
51:05
didn't think I was going to going to be the last guy to get
51:07
the out. So yeah, that was the first
51:13
thing that came to my head, glove spike and then run to the
51:16
catcher. But that distance between the
51:19
catcher, Jonah and I, it felt like it was a 30 minute ordeal.
51:23
Just getting to him, it felt like everything just kind of
51:26
stopped slow motion. And then getting back to
51:30
Chapman, you know, we we were jumping up and down and the
51:34
first dude running out and it was him.
51:37
And if you see me like you know, I'm jumping with Jonah and then
51:39
I start jumping away because I was afraid he was going to
51:43
happen. But yeah, just like you said,
51:47
blackout you just, it's something you dreamed of your
51:51
whole life, something you've, you know, you work for your
51:53
entire life. And we had guys that had 1617
51:58
year careers and this is their first one.
52:01
So, you know, I think that was the approach.
52:03
You know, I was fortunate to play with him.
52:05
Kennedy, you know, just his outlook of, you know, you might
52:09
only get this one opportunity. This might be your only time you
52:12
ever go to the playoffs ever again.
52:13
So one, enjoy it. Don't don't get lost in the good
52:18
and the bad, just enjoy the moment.
52:20
And I think that's that was the approach overall I tried to take
52:24
just, you know, I guess getting back to having some of these
52:28
veterans on this team kind of guide us and that was a big
52:32
aspect for me. It was just living the moment.
52:35
Appreciate it. You know, you get to be with
52:38
your family's family. My whole family was there, my
52:40
wife's family was there. You know that that doesn't
52:43
really happen. You know, I think you get a
52:44
little older, it becomes a little harder.
52:46
But you know, everybody showed up for this big moment and you
52:49
know, those were the special moments.
52:52
You know, the championship was great, but you know, doing it
52:54
with my wife and my kids that that that's that's what you play
52:57
for. You know, things kind of shift
52:59
in regards to you play for yourself, but now you I I play
53:02
for my family and that's makes it easier to play and gives you
53:05
something to fight for. I love it.
53:08
My last. Question Then when I'm I'm all
53:10
done. The dream 789 trio all time.
53:16
Current guys. Past guys.
53:18
You plug yourself in however you want.
53:20
The 789 who are the other two. I I mean, I'm gonna.
53:25
Toggle your fancy a little bit with Mariana?
53:28
Sure, sure. That's fair.
53:30
I appreciate it. I mean, if Hoffman Eckersley, I
53:44
like a Sneaky 1 Billy Wagner. Oh, I like that.
53:48
I like that. I don't think he gets.
53:50
I don't think he. Gets enough credit for how good
53:52
he was. You're probably right.
53:54
So. I mean if we're talking like
53:55
lanes too, like if you're if you're going to set yourself up
53:59
for 789, trying to get different lanes, different strengths, I
54:03
mean I if we're going left, right?
54:05
Left or right? Left.
54:06
Right, Definitely. I mean, I can't really think of
54:10
another lefty that was dominant as him.
54:15
You know, if we're going to go this year, shoot the Orioles
54:19
closer Batista. Batista before his.
54:24
Injury man. That dude was bowling balls.
54:26
Listen. When guys came in, they were
54:28
like. Don't know what's coming.
54:30
Everything's the same, he throws.
54:33
I mean, if we're looking at data on his heater, it's it's an
54:37
absolute insane Unicorn of a pitch 7 feet of extension, 100
54:44
miles an hour, 100 miles an hour, 20 pulse, vert.
54:47
You know, it's if we're going to nerd out, I think.
54:51
And then you throw that that splitter he throws.
54:54
It's kind of a joke. Also, like, it can't be that fun
54:58
to pitch when you're that good. Like just having those 2U
55:01
pitches. Yeah, that those three guys
55:05
would probably not lose too many games.
55:07
I think you could sprinkle me in like the 5th inning, 'cause
55:12
that's probably where I'd be. It'd be a pretty.
55:15
Relaxing. Year.
55:17
Yeah, 'cause you know, they're going to finish everything out.
55:23
Last question I got for you and you kind of just.
55:25
Alluded to it, albeit jokingly, but I you mentioned pitching the
55:29
5th. We obviously know you closed out
55:30
the World Series this year. Speak, like I said, just to
55:35
close this out here on the evolution of your career to this
55:39
point, like what is, what is something that you've taken away
55:43
from your time in the league thus far?
55:45
What's something maybe you've learned about yourself, or
55:49
what's maybe a way in which you've grown as a as a pitcher,
55:54
as a competitor, Whatever it may be, I think.
55:58
Just in sports, like you're going to have however many
56:04
coaches, right? 20 coaches probably in your
56:07
career. I don't think one coach is going
56:11
to change your life. I think, I think my approach if
56:15
I had to go back was take, you know, the best thing that that
56:18
coach has and learn from that and that's it.
56:21
When you meet a new coach, best thing, move on.
56:24
I think for me, I kind of got a little close minded and pitching
56:28
just kind of, you know, these are my 3 pitches.
56:30
I'm never going to change them. I don't make it.
56:32
So be it. And I think, let's see 20.
56:37
I made it to the big leagues kind of with that mindset.
56:40
Never really changed much. Really struggled in 1920.
56:46
I was OK, but you know I knew I wasn't going to be able to stick
56:50
around with what I had. So took a risk.
56:54
Did some crazy stuff for throwing.
56:56
Come back. Then 9798 sitting there, you
57:02
know have a decent year in 21. You know, I don't think people
57:06
talk about stick enough. I mean a lot of guys were using
57:10
it. I would say 90% of the league
57:14
curveball goes, my curveball was pretty bad.
57:17
Never really changed before. Like I was like I said, some
57:19
grew up. Spin rates weren't crazy.
57:26
Let's see, come June 2022, new curveball grip.
57:32
And Kyle, I don't know if you remember, it was kind of a big
57:35
12/6 prior, a little slow, just a big one.
57:39
I always thought it was cool because I could see it move, but
57:42
never really good, could never really strike it.
57:45
We throw this weird grip, spike, curveball, and I think pretty
57:51
much kind of changed my career, I think.
57:53
I mean, you look at my pitches, they're all good, but my
57:56
curveball's like my true outlier pitch.
57:59
So just being open minded, I've said that before, but like, but
58:05
obviously you always got to stay guarded.
58:07
But you know, listen to what people have to say.
58:10
It might be out there, it might be different, but it could also
58:12
change your career. So like for me is just learn,
58:17
understand how a coach operates and use what they're really good
58:21
at. I think one thing with Maddox is
58:24
he's one of the best scatter report coaches I've ever seen.
58:28
Just kind of he's obviously coached forever, played the mid
58:31
leagues forever, but he's, I know that when he talks about a
58:37
hit or swing I need to listen. I know it's going to make me
58:40
better as a player and you know, obviously when my career ends
58:43
I'll be a better coach because of it.
58:44
So just taking little things from everybody.
58:47
You know, UN uncoachable isn't a word.
58:50
But but you know, just taking small aspects wherever you go,
58:56
even even even if it's just a little nugget, it, it could
58:59
change. And you know if you're paying
59:03
attention you'll know who the bad ones are.
59:06
You'll know who the bad coaches are.
59:08
Bad people. And so just being aware little
59:11
Nuggets, pretty simple, nothing crazy.
59:13
And I think kind of use that for life.
59:16
Kind of bad. Seeing it.
59:17
It's just about to say that's good baseball.
59:19
Advice. Good life advice.
59:21
That's about all I got. Nate, you got anything else for?
59:24
Thank you so much, Josh. World Champion Josh for another.
59:30
Few months and then restart. Hey, that's yours.
59:34
That's yours. Until next November, that's all.
59:36
All you guys. That's all.
59:37
That's all yours till next November so.
59:44
There you go. Love it well.
59:46
Josh, we appreciate you coming on.
59:47
Congratulations and a heck of a heck of a run this year.
59:51
And best of luck in the years ago.