Latest / Conspiracy! The Show / Jeffrey Epstein Files Pt. 2: Billionaire Playboys Club
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- 0:08Speaker 2: Destroy.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
- 0:16Speaker 1: theory podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
- 0:38Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me as co host this week.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Oo my favorite co host of all no co host.
- 0:45Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even have any guests this week
- 0:49Speaker 2: because here's the thing, I don't want to subject guests
- 0:52Speaker 2: or co hosts to the topic that we are covering
- 0:57Speaker 2: this week. We meaning me meaning I. I'm talking about
- 1:01Speaker 2: one of the more interesting and scandalous sections of the
- 1:07Speaker 2: most recent Epstein Files release. That is the Virginia Roberts
- 1:13Speaker 2: Manuscript aka Virginia Geoffrey. She is the Epstein accuser who
- 1:20Speaker 2: brought celebrity names into the mix. A lot of the
- 1:25Speaker 2: more damning stuff that you've heard from the Epstein Files
- 1:31Speaker 2: actually comes from this manuscript. She was trying to sell
- 1:35Speaker 2: a book. The name of that book was going to
- 1:39Speaker 2: be The Billionaires Playboy Club. And again, that first round
- 1:43Speaker 2: of accusers didn't really mention celebrities or famous people. They
- 1:48Speaker 2: were all just referencing Jeffrey Epstein in their claims in
- 1:54Speaker 2: lawsuits all the celebrity stuff kind of starts with Virginia Geoffrey.
- 1:59Speaker 2: This man script. It's about one hundred and forty pages.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I mentioned on the first Epstein episode that reading this
- 2:08Speaker 2: within the Epstein Files is very difficult because the pages
- 2:12Speaker 2: are oriented really weird. But I did notice since then
- 2:16Speaker 2: there's a drop down box at the bottom, and you
- 2:18Speaker 2: just changed the setting from document to text, and everything
- 2:23Speaker 2: in these files becomes way easier to read. I wish
- 2:27Speaker 2: I knew that when I read, you know, like pages
- 2:30Speaker 2: one to seven hundred. But water under the Bridge, you know.
- 2:35Speaker 2: So this is the last of the Epstein Files episodes
- 2:40Speaker 2: we're doing. This is gonna be a little shorter episode,
- 2:42Speaker 2: by the way, because there is no guest to jump
- 2:46Speaker 2: in with all the witty banter that I know the
- 2:49Speaker 2: guests and hosts on this network would absolutely bring to
- 2:54Speaker 2: a topic like this manuscript. It starts with her camping
- 3:00Speaker 2: out on Miami Beach, homeless at the age of thirteen
- 3:06Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven. She talks about her upbringing. It
- 3:11Speaker 2: is pretty clear she had a rocky family history, to
- 3:16Speaker 2: say the least. She talks about being abused as a
- 3:19Speaker 2: young girl. There's no details and hey, that's fine. There
- 3:22Speaker 2: are plenty of other harrowing details in this manuscript. She
- 3:28Speaker 2: is talking in this book about being on the streets
- 3:32Speaker 2: of Miami at the age of thirteen, and she's panhandling
- 3:37Speaker 2: for change, and just out of nowhere, a black stretch
- 3:41Speaker 2: limousine pulls up. In the back of the limo was
- 3:45Speaker 2: a businessman and modeling agency owner named Ron Eppinger. So
- 3:51Speaker 2: at first I was like, oh, I get it, she's
- 3:53Speaker 2: just changing names here to like not get sued, And
- 3:58Speaker 2: that's actually Jeffrey Epstein. And no, no, unfortunately that is
- 4:05Speaker 2: not the case. Ron Eppinger is just another very well
- 4:09Speaker 2: known and infamous pedophile in the Florida Miami Beach West
- 4:16Speaker 2: Palm Beach area, who I believe has since died. He
- 4:20Speaker 2: definitely went to prison. If my Google and is correct,
- 4:24Speaker 2: it looks like he might have a kid who was
- 4:26Speaker 2: also named Ron, Which come on, if you're going to
- 4:29Speaker 2: be a famous pedophile, at least don't name your kid
- 4:31Speaker 2: after you, or hey, if you're that kid, change your name.
- 4:34Speaker 2: And I don't know, might not even be his kid.
- 4:36Speaker 2: You think I looked into it that far. I was
- 4:38Speaker 2: all traumatized from reading this manuscript anyway, let's get back
- 4:43Speaker 2: to that. So Ron Eppinger. She talks about Ron Eppinger's operation,
- 4:48Speaker 2: which was pretty intense this guy, at least according to her.
- 4:52Speaker 2: I didn't delve into all the details of his misdeeds yet,
- 4:57Speaker 2: but according to her, he ran a the sex trafficking
- 5:01Speaker 2: ring that specifically preyed on illegal immigrants. And she describes
- 5:08Speaker 2: that first night meeting Ron Eppinger, and I am definitely
- 5:14Speaker 2: not going to go into detail about that here. It's
- 5:18Speaker 2: as heinous as you'd expect. It's a very tough read.
- 5:22Speaker 2: There are a lot of details that sound almost kind
- 5:27Speaker 2: of fantastical, like bordering on made up. But at the
- 5:31Speaker 2: same time, I don't know how fucking pedophile operates. Maybe
- 5:35Speaker 2: all of that is completely normal in that world. But also,
- 5:39Speaker 2: this is a manuscript for a novel that's being ghost
- 5:44Speaker 2: written by a journalist, and that part gets a little
- 5:49Speaker 2: awkward from time to time. We'll talk about that more so.
- 5:55Speaker 2: After a few months with Ron Eppinger, she ends up
- 5:59Speaker 2: getting in trouble for making phone calls to people back home.
- 6:03Speaker 2: She's been moved to a ranch in like central Florida.
- 6:07Speaker 2: By this point, ron Epinger finds out and it sets
- 6:11Speaker 2: up a really interesting moment in this book, because one
- 6:15Speaker 2: thing I should remind everyone of, as referenced in the
- 6:18Speaker 2: Epstein Files themselves, everything in here, these are all allegations.
- 6:23Speaker 2: This isn't necessarily all stuff that you can take as
- 6:27Speaker 2: news per se, And so keep that in mind when
- 6:31Speaker 2: we talk about this next part. After Ron Eppinger finds
- 6:35Speaker 2: out that she's been making these phone calls, he basically
- 6:39Speaker 2: sends her off to another dude, like just gives her away.
- 6:45Speaker 2: He lives in the Miami area. He's in a bachelor pad.
- 6:49Speaker 2: His name is Charlie, and man, I like, I immediately
- 6:52Speaker 2: assumed Charlie Sheen. But Charlie Sheen's not balding. I don't think.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Maybe he wears a wig. I don't know. But she
- 6:59Speaker 2: says she was sent to live with a balding man
- 7:02Speaker 2: named Charlie in a bachelor pad in Miami. Here's a quote.
- 7:06Speaker 2: We arrived at his two in one restaurant and club
- 7:10Speaker 2: at around nine o'clock in the evening. It was a
- 7:12Speaker 2: revolving tower called Hot Chocolates in downtown Fort Lauderdale. And
- 7:17Speaker 2: now there is some suggestion that throughout this manuscript she's
- 7:21Speaker 2: using fake names and places to hide the real names
- 7:26Speaker 2: and locations that were involved in what happened to her.
- 7:30Speaker 2: And I don't think that's the case, because if that's
- 7:34Speaker 2: what she's doing, she's just substituting the actual names of
- 7:39Speaker 2: real people in real places instead. And that's not how
- 7:42Speaker 2: that works. You would like make up a fake name.
- 7:46Speaker 2: But when she says she went to a nightclub restaurant
- 7:50Speaker 2: called Hot Chocolates, she says it was the nightclub restaurant
- 7:54Speaker 2: of this guy named Charlie. And I looked into it.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Sure enough, there was a Hot Chocolates in Fort Lauderdale.
- 8:03Speaker 2: It was a combination nightclub restaurant. Here's a nineteen ninety
- 8:07Speaker 2: nine quote about it from the Florida Sun Sentinel. Gentlemen
- 8:11Speaker 2: of a certain age yearning to be less so escort
- 8:15Speaker 2: young ladies to and fro in a kind of ritualized
- 8:19Speaker 2: dance of raucous superficiality. Except that amid all the flash,
- 8:23Speaker 2: there really is a restaurant here, and it is often
- 8:26Speaker 2: surprisingly good end quote. And hey, that quote didn't age well.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Seeing as how Hot Chocolates gets referenced in the Epstein files.
- 8:36Speaker 2: And for the record, there are names mentioned in the
- 8:39Speaker 2: handful of Sun Sentinel articles that mention this place, and
- 8:43Speaker 2: none of them are Charlie. They mentioned the owner, they
- 8:46Speaker 2: mentioned like the head chef. So it's still not really
- 8:51Speaker 2: clear who she's referring to here. I mean maybe somewhere
- 8:54Speaker 2: out there who Charlie is has been explained. But I
- 8:58Speaker 2: will say this, her ordeal with Charlie, as told in
- 9:01Speaker 2: the book, ends with him getting rated by the FBI.
- 9:05Speaker 2: So someone more time for research can pick up that
- 9:09Speaker 2: thread if they want. I'm the one reading the goddamn manuscript,
- 9:13Speaker 2: you know. So after that, she bounces around from place
- 9:17Speaker 2: to place for a bit and then moves on to
- 9:19Speaker 2: her job at mar Alago, which we talked about at
- 9:22Speaker 2: length on the last Epstein episode, And the time span
- 9:26Speaker 2: here is about two years. She met Ron Eppinger when
- 9:31Speaker 2: she was thirteen, and she first starts working at mar
- 9:34Speaker 2: Alago when she was fifteen, And we talked about the
- 9:39Speaker 2: mar A Lago job a little bit on the first
- 9:41Speaker 2: Epstein Files episode. And we all know it's been revealed
- 9:47Speaker 2: that Virginia Roberts first came into contact with Jeffrey Epstein
- 9:52Speaker 2: through Julane Maxwell, and it was while she was working
- 9:56Speaker 2: as a massage therapist at mar A Lago. I'm surprised
- 10:01Speaker 2: even working as a massage therapist at fifteen is legal.
- 10:05Speaker 2: It's probably not. I mean, Trump owns mar a Lago.
- 10:08Speaker 2: What's legal and illegal when it's owned by Trump. But
- 10:12Speaker 2: she talks about meeting Julayne Maxwell, and Maxwell asks if
- 10:17Speaker 2: she does work on the side, and she's like, hey,
- 10:19Speaker 2: I got a client. Of course, that client is Jeffrey Epstein.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And one of the things to understand here is Virginia Roberts. Again,
- 10:29Speaker 2: she comes from this very troubled background and she's looking
- 10:32Speaker 2: for an opportunity. She's looking for a way out. And
- 10:37Speaker 2: this isn't me like analyzing it, this is all in
- 10:40Speaker 2: the manuscript. And so her plan, like her career goal,
- 10:46Speaker 2: was to become a licensed massage therapist. And she tells
- 10:51Speaker 2: this to Julayne Maxwell, and Julaanne Maxwell is like, well,
- 10:55Speaker 2: I have a rich client who just loves massages and
- 11:00Speaker 2: he's looking for a personal messuse. Maybe you could do
- 11:03Speaker 2: that on the side and that extra work would help
- 11:06Speaker 2: you get closer to your goal of becoming a licensed
- 11:10Speaker 2: massage therapist. So that is Virginia Roberts' motivation initially for
- 11:16Speaker 2: going to meet with Jeffrey Epstein. And then she talks
- 11:20Speaker 2: about the first meeting in pretty graphic detail. It's as
- 11:25Speaker 2: horrifying as you'd expect. But also every time she meets
- 11:31Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein, she's getting paid two hundred to four
- 11:34Speaker 2: hundred dollars. And if you watch any of the Epstein
- 11:39Speaker 2: documentaries where several other of his victims are interviewed, that's
- 11:45Speaker 2: kind of the thing for all of them, at least
- 11:48Speaker 2: everyone that it was happening to in the West Palm
- 11:52Speaker 2: Beach area, is he would go after vulnerable girls, and
- 11:56Speaker 2: he would use other vulnerable girls to recruit those girls,
- 12:01Speaker 2: and it was all about money, and yeah, this is awful,
- 12:06Speaker 2: like you're really kind of selling your soul, But also,
- 12:10Speaker 2: how else is a girl like you gonna make money
- 12:12Speaker 2: like this? Pretty damn insidious, you know. Eventually, Epstein convinces
- 12:17Speaker 2: her to quit her job at mar A Lago and
- 12:20Speaker 2: work as his full time massus instead, And again, she
- 12:23Speaker 2: was fifteen at the time, and her parents just let
- 12:27Speaker 2: her go. And when I say let her go, Jeffrey
- 12:30Speaker 2: Epstein travels a lot, probably still, but he definitely traveled
- 12:35Speaker 2: a lot back before we all thought he was dead.
- 12:38Speaker 2: And so she's not just his personal massuse, she says,
- 12:41Speaker 2: traveling missus. She's fifteen, and her parents again vulnerable communities.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Her parents are like, seems weird, but all right whatever.
- 12:51Speaker 2: There are not a lot of flattering depictions of her
- 12:54Speaker 2: parents in this I will tell you that. Eventually, what's
- 12:58Speaker 2: happening with Jeffrey Eppin progresses to the point where he
- 13:02Speaker 2: starts asking Virginia Roberts to find other girls for him
- 13:06Speaker 2: and offers her double money she was making previously. And
- 13:11Speaker 2: so most of the early part of the book, it's
- 13:14Speaker 2: a lot of what we already know happened with Jeffrey
- 13:18Speaker 2: Epstein and countless other young girls, just in I think,
- 13:22Speaker 2: way more detail than most people want. And so I
- 13:25Speaker 2: was kind of concerned that this manuscript was just going
- 13:30Speaker 2: to be that, and that I wasn't going to learn
- 13:32Speaker 2: anything new, and I was just going to be horrified
- 13:36Speaker 2: for a few solid hours while I powered my way
- 13:39Speaker 2: through this. And then oh man, a name I have
- 13:42Speaker 2: yet to hear in connection to Jeffrey Epstein popped up,
- 13:47Speaker 2: and that name is Simpson's creator, Matt Groening. There's a
- 13:52Speaker 2: moment where Virginia Roberts is talking about flying on Epstein's
- 13:57Speaker 2: private plane and they're going from I believe it's somewhere
- 14:01Speaker 2: in northern California, flying to LA and Matt Groening just
- 14:05Speaker 2: happened to he was a friend of Epstein's, and he
- 14:08Speaker 2: happened to need to get to LA also, and so
- 14:11Speaker 2: he's on that flight, and Jeffrey Epstein ordered her to
- 14:15Speaker 2: give Matt Groening a foot massage. Here's a quote. I
- 14:18Speaker 2: never turned down a client, but when I saw the
- 14:20Speaker 2: shape of his feet, I nearly threw up at the
- 14:23Speaker 2: thought of having to touch them. He had yellow, crusty
- 14:26Speaker 2: toenails that even someone with a chainsaw would have had
- 14:29Speaker 2: trouble cutting through. End quote. Nice crusty reference there. Fortunately,
- 14:35Speaker 2: the foot massage is all that happens. And then he
- 14:39Speaker 2: draws a picture of Homer and Bart for her brother
- 14:43Speaker 2: and father. I thought we were also in for some
- 14:46Speaker 2: equally scandalous Stephen Hawking details at one point when she
- 14:51Speaker 2: brings up Epstein Island and quote a Harvard professor named
- 14:56Speaker 2: Steven end quote. But also she talks about that guy
- 14:59Speaker 2: swimming and making fun of her skinny legs, which are
- 15:02Speaker 2: both things I can't imagine Stephen Hawking doing. And okay,
- 15:08Speaker 2: I said on the last Epstein episode that Naomi Campbell
- 15:12Speaker 2: is mentioned. Virginia Roberts says in this manuscript that Naomi
- 15:16Speaker 2: Campbell was a close friend of Epstein and Maxwell both
- 15:21Speaker 2: in that they traveled to France specifically for her birthday party.
- 15:26Speaker 2: But that is also kind of the extent of Naomi
- 15:29Speaker 2: Campbell's involvement. They just go to her birthday party. So
- 15:32Speaker 2: I guess Naomi Campbell is just guilty of having bad
- 15:36Speaker 2: friends now. Richard Hilton, on the other hand, father of
- 15:40Speaker 2: Paris and Nicki Hilton, is directly named as having been
- 15:45Speaker 2: one of the rich men that Epstein quote loaned Virginia
- 15:49Speaker 2: Roberts out to, and it's alleged to have happened the
- 15:54Speaker 2: night of Naomi Campbell's birthday party. Worth noting again, these
- 15:58Speaker 2: are unproven allegations written in a manuscript that is buried
- 16:02Speaker 2: in thousands of pages of documents. Also worth noting, a
- 16:07Speaker 2: representative for Richard Hilton issued a statement saying she couldn't
- 16:12Speaker 2: have been referring to him because one, he doesn't own Hilton,
- 16:16Speaker 2: that was her allegation in the book, the owner of
- 16:20Speaker 2: the Hilton hotel chain, and he also at the time
- 16:23Speaker 2: at least didn't meet that physical description she provided of
- 16:27Speaker 2: a short, balding man with straggling remnants of curly brown hair.
- 16:33Speaker 2: She also said in a twenty sixteen deposition that she
- 16:37Speaker 2: couldn't remember the name of the hotel chain or the
- 16:40Speaker 2: hotel owner. There's a Reddit thread out there that suggests
- 16:45Speaker 2: she maybe changed the name in the book and she
- 16:47Speaker 2: was actually referring to a different hotel chain owner. But again,
- 16:52Speaker 2: I don't think that's how that works. When you're changing
- 16:56Speaker 2: names to avoid getting sued, you don't change the name
- 17:01Speaker 2: to someone else who is also a real person, Like
- 17:05Speaker 2: if it was the owner of the w hotel chain,
- 17:08Speaker 2: you don't change it to Richard Hilton to avoid being sued.
- 17:13Speaker 2: That's just gonna get you sued by Richard Hilton. So
- 17:17Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a very controversial section of
- 17:21Speaker 2: this manuscript apparently, and I don't know. I don't know
- 17:25Speaker 2: she says Richard Hilton in the book. And also if
- 17:29Speaker 2: that is her way of using code names, I really
- 17:32Speaker 2: want to know who Senator George Mitchell actually is, because
- 17:36Speaker 2: he's also named as being one of the people who
- 17:40Speaker 2: victimized her. Far less detail. What details she does include
- 17:44Speaker 2: are really bad, Just a lot less descriptive. Mitchell is
- 17:49Speaker 2: mentioned alongside quote another Nobel Prize winning scientist end quote
- 17:54Speaker 2: whose name she can't remember, assuming that's also not Stephen Hawking.
- 17:58Speaker 2: I feel like if it was use, you'd be like,
- 18:01Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, but let me run a
- 18:04Speaker 2: few details by you. I feel like you could describe
- 18:06Speaker 2: Stephen Hawking to someone and they'd probably be able to
- 18:10Speaker 2: fill in the blank for you. There also, holy shit,
- 18:12Speaker 2: does George Clooney catch astray in this manuscript? His name
- 18:16Speaker 2: comes up and that information will probably echo throughout time,
- 18:22Speaker 2: along with questions of why his name came up in
- 18:25Speaker 2: the Epstein files. Well, I'll tell you why. It's because
- 18:29Speaker 2: apparently Julaane Maxwell blew him in the bathroom at some
- 18:34Speaker 2: random event once and spent the rest of her days
- 18:37Speaker 2: telling anyone who would listen all about it. So George
- 18:41Speaker 2: Clooney is just getting a perfectly adult bathroom bj and
- 18:46Speaker 2: now he's forever linked to Jeffrey Epstein over it. That's harsh.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Not long after that revelation, she talks about the Prince
- 18:55Speaker 2: Andrew incident. She says it happened at Jelaane Maxwell's townhouse
- 19:00Speaker 2: in London, and that Jeffrey Epstein was there also. Prince
- 19:04Speaker 2: Andrew and Fergie, not the Black Eyed Peas one, the
- 19:07Speaker 2: former British Royalty one, were recently divorced at this point
- 19:11Speaker 2: important detail. She says Maxwell played a quote guessing game
- 19:15Speaker 2: with Prince Andrew and asked him to guess how old
- 19:18Speaker 2: Virginia was, and he guessed that she was seventeen. So
- 19:23Speaker 2: if all the allegations leveled against him are true, including
- 19:26Speaker 2: that part, he definitely knew what he was doing because
- 19:31Speaker 2: she was seventeen by this point. That's the allegation that
- 19:33Speaker 2: Prince Andrew. I mean, people say Prince Andrew had sex
- 19:37Speaker 2: with her at seventeen, but that's still statutory rape. So
- 19:40Speaker 2: he raped her when she was seventeen, so he would
- 19:43Speaker 2: have definitely known what he was doing if this part
- 19:46Speaker 2: of the manuscript is accurate. The only part that's weird
- 19:49Speaker 2: to me is there's lots of details about them going
- 19:51Speaker 2: out on the town for dinner and dancing, and I
- 19:55Speaker 2: don't know, given what we know about the paparazzi in London,
- 19:59Speaker 2: I guess I'm just surprised there aren't more pictures because
- 20:01Speaker 2: it sounds like Prince Andrew was getting up to some
- 20:04Speaker 2: antics during that night out, and there's also that now
- 20:09Speaker 2: sort of famous passage about him dripping with sweat when
- 20:12Speaker 2: they left a nightclub they went to, and he claims
- 20:15Speaker 2: that's proof that she's lying because he had a condition
- 20:18Speaker 2: at the time that prevented him from sweating. But when
- 20:21Speaker 2: he came out publicly with that, people were like, well,
- 20:24Speaker 2: can you prove that? And he cannot. And so there
- 20:27Speaker 2: are lots of details about her encounter with Prince Andrew.
- 20:31Speaker 2: I won't relay them here, but I will tell you
- 20:33Speaker 2: there's a weird thing about this book where, despite it
- 20:36Speaker 2: being a retelling of instances of rape, it's written like
- 20:42Speaker 2: a romance novel. Here is an example quote from the
- 20:45Speaker 2: section about Prince Andrew. It wasn't hard to get him
- 20:49Speaker 2: wound up to the point where he just wanted to
- 20:51Speaker 2: have the rest of me. So we dried off from
- 20:53Speaker 2: the cold and retired to my bedchambers end quote bedchambers.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Again Worth. The journalist who was working with Virginia Roberts
- 21:03Speaker 2: on this book is British, and most of these descriptions
- 21:08Speaker 2: are undoubtedly being punched up by that journalist and it
- 21:13Speaker 2: is a bad look, like I absolutely understand why this
- 21:18Speaker 2: was never published It is baffling the way it was written,
- 21:22Speaker 2: and I don't blame Virginia Roberts for that. I blame
- 21:26Speaker 2: the person ghost writing it. But also speaking of bad looks,
- 21:30Speaker 2: Prince Andrew shows up a few times throughout this and
- 21:35Speaker 2: he shows up for the same reason every time. If
- 21:38Speaker 2: this was a movie, he would be on the poster
- 21:41Speaker 2: for sure. I think everyone knows that French model scout
- 21:46Speaker 2: Jean Luke Brunel has been named as an Epstein accomplice.
- 21:49Speaker 2: In the manuscript, Virginia Roberts provides more details about his role.
- 21:54Speaker 2: He was like the international wing. Epstein had Julaanne Maxwell
- 21:58Speaker 2: and all these girls in the United States recruiting girls there,
- 22:03Speaker 2: and Jean Luke Brunel. He would hit the vulnerable communities
- 22:08Speaker 2: in places like South America and the former Soviet republics.
- 22:13Speaker 2: And that guy's dead now. And that's awesome, except for
- 22:18Speaker 2: the part where all of the details he knew about
- 22:21Speaker 2: Epstein's scheme ep scheme if you Will died with him.
- 22:26Speaker 2: But hey, the news isn't all bad when it comes
- 22:29Speaker 2: to the names mentioned in this book. We kind of
- 22:32Speaker 2: touched on this very briefly on last week's Bonus episode,
- 22:36Speaker 2: but al Gore's name comes up in this at one point,
- 22:40Speaker 2: and Virginia Roberts could not possibly be more effusive in
- 22:45Speaker 2: her praise of Al Gore and his obvious love for
- 22:50Speaker 2: and dedication to his wife, Tipper Gore, which is surprising
- 22:55Speaker 2: because Tipper Gore is kind of a fuck face. But
- 22:58Speaker 2: at least her and as now weren't hanging out with
- 23:01Speaker 2: Epstein for his adrenochrome connections. Apparently, you know. But obviously
- 23:07Speaker 2: Bill Clinton comes up also, and for one thing, it
- 23:10Speaker 2: gets really confusing right away. Here's a quote. He is
- 23:14Speaker 2: the only president in the world to be dismissed from
- 23:17Speaker 2: his role as a world leader because he was caught
- 23:21Speaker 2: with his trousers around his ankles and had the stain
- 23:24Speaker 2: to prove it publicly humiliating his wife and himself. He
- 23:28Speaker 2: retired from his title, but not from his lifestyle. End quote.
- 23:33Speaker 2: And I mean that happened, but it didn't happen. That
- 23:36Speaker 2: is clearly the writing of someone with little to no
- 23:40Speaker 2: knowledge of American history or politics, Like someone googled Bill Clinton,
- 23:46Speaker 2: saw the word impeached and just assumed, okay, well, yeah,
- 23:50Speaker 2: my memory serves me correct. Bill Clinton was kicked out
- 23:52Speaker 2: of office, but no he wasn't. He was impeached, but
- 23:56Speaker 2: he stayed in office. He didn't leave office. And so
- 23:59Speaker 2: again I get why this book wasn't published. It is
- 24:03Speaker 2: very weirdly written in a lot of spots. Also, she
- 24:07Speaker 2: doesn't directly accuse Clinton of anything. She just says they
- 24:12Speaker 2: were hanging out at Epstein Island, you know, as one does,
- 24:16Speaker 2: just a casual trip to Epstein Island, and that everyone
- 24:21Speaker 2: was joking and laughing. Hillary Clinton wasn't there. That's why
- 24:24Speaker 2: Hillary's name comes up in this because someone mentioned she
- 24:27Speaker 2: wasn't there. She says Bill Clinton was being a little flirty,
- 24:30Speaker 2: but then everyone just split up and went their separate
- 24:34Speaker 2: ways at the end of the night. Granted, she does
- 24:36Speaker 2: say Bill Clinton walked off with two women on his arm,
- 24:39Speaker 2: but hey, still Walkin's not a crime. So the turning
- 24:43Speaker 2: point in all of this finally comes when Jeffrey Epstein
- 24:47Speaker 2: asked Virginia Roberts to have his child. She was eighteen
- 24:51Speaker 2: by this point, so that's the thing he could have
- 24:53Speaker 2: gotten away with legally, and this like snaps her out
- 24:58Speaker 2: of it a little bit. Her night teenth birthday was
- 25:00Speaker 2: approaching very soon, and she had a very valid concern
- 25:04Speaker 2: that she was going to be locked into this life
- 25:07Speaker 2: that she was living forever. So she agrees to have
- 25:11Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's child, but she kicks the can down the
- 25:15Speaker 2: road a bit by saying she wanted to wait until
- 25:18Speaker 2: she had the professional massage certification she was seeking. And again,
- 25:23Speaker 2: that's the whole motivation here. I know it's gonna seem
- 25:28Speaker 2: unthinkable to people, but the way Virginia Roberts describes her situation,
- 25:34Speaker 2: she could have technically left at any point, but she
- 25:38Speaker 2: was a troubled kid from a troubled background, and working
- 25:42Speaker 2: as Jeffrey Epstein's quote personal messuse end quote, she viewed
- 25:47Speaker 2: that as the best opportunity she had to improve her
- 25:51Speaker 2: station in life. Julaanne Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein promised her
- 25:56Speaker 2: that working for him would result in her getting that
- 26:00Speaker 2: professional massage certificate, and they did from time to time
- 26:03Speaker 2: provide her with the training she would need to get that,
- 26:07Speaker 2: but that was obviously few and far between, and the
- 26:10Speaker 2: abuse was the main thing. So along those lines, when
- 26:16Speaker 2: she says she wants to get that certification before she
- 26:19Speaker 2: has Epstein's baby, about a week later, Jeffrey Epstein calls
- 26:23Speaker 2: her into his office and tells her that she is
- 26:25Speaker 2: going to Thailand for an eight week time massage course.
- 26:29Speaker 2: So he's trying to expedite that process. So now the
- 26:32Speaker 2: clock is really ticking, like Jeffrey Epstein wants to have
- 26:36Speaker 2: a child with this child, and so he sends her
- 26:40Speaker 2: off to Thailand to get the massage certificate she wants
- 26:44Speaker 2: before she agrees to this, and that is when she
- 26:48Speaker 2: finally leaves. She gets to Thailand, she's partying, she's living
- 26:53Speaker 2: her life. She's actually learning the things she wanted to learn.
- 26:57Speaker 2: She falls in love with a Mui Thai fi named
- 27:00Speaker 2: Robbie and they get married. Unexpectedly. She calls Epstein tells
- 27:06Speaker 2: him that she just got married. Jeffrey Epstein says, have
- 27:09Speaker 2: a good life and hangs up the phone and she
- 27:12Speaker 2: moves to Australia. It is about as happy of an
- 27:16Speaker 2: ending as a manuscript like this can have, and I
- 27:20Speaker 2: immediately regret using the phrase happy ending in this moment. Oof. Anyway,
- 27:25Speaker 2: that's our episode. I told you it was going to
- 27:27Speaker 2: be a shorter one. It's because there was no one
- 27:29Speaker 2: else here to be horrified with me. We linked to
- 27:33Speaker 2: the Epstein Files on the last Epstein Files episode, so hey,
- 27:37Speaker 2: if you want to go read this, do it? I guess,
- 27:41Speaker 2: but I don't recommend it. It's not gonna be good
- 27:44Speaker 2: for you. It's not good for anyone anyway. That's the episode.
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- 28:06Speaker 2: Let's get out of here, Adams say goodbye, goodbye everybody.
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