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World Cup Wins & World Class Mistakes · Shut Up and Ride

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome to the Sharp and Ride podcast. We're back. Oh, no. I say we. My phone's dinging. Sorry.
• 0:17
  Speaker B: We're man down. We're man down.
• 0:19
  Speaker A: We are a man down. He is off. I don't think we're allowed to say where he is. The Benjamin.
• 0:25
  Speaker B: No, we're not. We're not. But like, we're manned down, but we're not really man down. Cause he was proper man down a little while ago. He's now not man down. He's off doing something.
• 0:34
  Speaker A: Man off.
• 0:35
  Speaker B: But he's not here. That's all it is.
• 0:36
  Speaker A: He's filming with someone very famous.
• 0:39
  Speaker B: Very famous.
• 0:40
  Speaker A: I think we can say it's like a Disney thing or something, can't we? I don't even know if that's true.
• 0:43
  Speaker B: Is it Disney?
• 0:45
  Speaker A: I just can't remember his message.
• 0:47
  Speaker B: All I know is that the person that he's doing it for is really famous.
• 0:50
  Speaker A: Really, really famous. And he's off. And he might drop in, he said. But one doubts it because he's off schmoozing with celebrities from Hollywood. Hollywood celebs. 30, 40,000 followers is not celeb enough for him today? How many followers have you got now?
• 1:10
  Speaker B: Me?
• 1:11
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:11
  Speaker B: I don't actually know.
• 1:14
  Speaker A: I'm going to have a look.
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  Speaker B: I don't know. Don't know.
• 1:18
  Speaker A: 44.4 thousand.
• 1:21
  Speaker B: 44.4. How cool is that?
• 1:24
  Speaker A: Is very cool.
• 1:26
  Speaker B: And you tell you what. I tell you what. So many of them are so nice. They're so nice.
• 1:33
  Speaker A: Really?
• 1:34
  Speaker B: They are, yeah. Really nice.
• 1:35
  Speaker A: Do you think you just don't open the bad ones?
• 1:38
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:39
  Speaker A: Actually, you don't reply to bloody WhatsApp. I'm not imagining you're reading all the messages you get on Instagram.
• 1:46
  Speaker B: Yeah, well, talking of which, Jenny Moodle, I messaged the group and I said, when are we next doing it? And I got completely ignored by everyone, including yourself. But that was because you were quite busy at the time.
• 1:58
  Speaker A: I was at the World cup. And also I saw it and then I forgot to reply. And normally I feel really guilty about these things and I think a little bit of me was like, let's give the boys a taste of their own medicine. And then I felt really panicked and I think about two days later went, I'm really sorry. When do you want to record?
• 2:15
  Speaker B: No, no. You didn't, though. You didn't.
• 2:17
  Speaker A: Did I not? I did in my head.
• 2:19
  Speaker B: You never got back to me on that one. Never got to me.
• 2:21
  Speaker A: How did it feel having it the other way around?
• 2:25
  Speaker B: To be Honest, it didn't really make any difference to me. I just said, oh, they're not going back to me. Oh well, carry on.
• 2:31
  Speaker A: So I'm not what's annoyed you this week.
• 2:33
  Speaker B: And also I think the, the Charles Owen, who are our fantastic sponsors, they really are amazing. But their, their episode had come out so I was like, oh well, we don't really need to do one anyway, so it's fine.
• 2:45
  Speaker A: I know, but I did appreciate you actually pushing being the driving force, so thank you very much.
• 2:51
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, whatevs. She says all the bad things.
• 2:54
  Speaker A: Completely ignored you. Do you know what does frustrate me is when I wake up because obviously I wake up. At what time do I wake? I wake up when you're kind of going to bed or this kind of time of day and I wake up and you two have had a full on conversation while I've been asleep and you've been replying to each other on our group. And then I wake up and reply, silence. I'm like, oh my God, could you have at least planned a recording while you were having a chat? And you're normally saying things like, oh my God, I love you Ben. Oh my God, I love you Simon, you're so great. And then I'm like, in this flurry of conversation on WhatsApp, could we not have agreed a time to actually record a podcast? And then I reply and it's yeah,
• 3:35
  Speaker B: but that's the thing though, Jenny, isn't it? If we were like, oh, we should do it this time. Jenny would be like, no, that time's terrible. We can't do that. We're not doing that.
• 3:42
  Speaker A: Mainly because I'd be asleep. I always. Anyway. How are you, Simon? Grieve.
• 3:49
  Speaker B: I am very good, thank you. I've just, I've been out filming today and yesterday presenting stuff. Horse and country tv. It's a series that's called Cobs Can Go Eventing. We've done one before. Sorry, neither have I. God, I shouldn't find one but it was fun to do. Yeah. And cobs are really cool actually.
• 4:19
  Speaker A: You know, I love cobs.
• 4:21
  Speaker B: They're just, they've got like. I know there's a bit of generalization but they have such a great attitude to everything, a really amazing work ethic. They're actually quite talented as well in their own ways and their attitude is just so mega, like they just want to help and which is why they're so popular and. Yeah, it was. And they also have very often have a really good jumping technique.
• 4:47
  Speaker A: I also I used to train a couple of cobs. I used to ride them for my clients. And it used to be my most fun day because. Bit closer to the ground if they. And the most they do is spook, they can be. I've had a few that used to do kind of backflips and of tons turn around, but you're like. You're so comfy. You're like, yeah, good luck with that. I'm not coming off.
• 5:05
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And it was. It was. It was fun. But I. I did get a bit sunburnt, I think.
• 5:11
  Speaker A: No, you must wear sunburn.
• 5:12
  Speaker B: It's really windy. Like, it's a really cold wind. So, like. So you don't really think about it. But it's been really bright sunshine.
• 5:17
  Speaker A: You do have a touch of the
• 5:18
  Speaker B: rouge, which is still there. And so. So after we've done this, I'm gonna go and play with the puppies.
• 5:26
  Speaker A: That's not a euphemism, is it?
• 5:28
  Speaker B: No, it's not actual puppies.
• 5:30
  Speaker A: Oh, my God, that's so exciting. And are they for sale, these puppies?
• 5:33
  Speaker B: They are for sale. We have. We have eight. Four of them got homes and four of them are still looking.
• 5:39
  Speaker A: Has the speckled Y1 got a home? Because that's the one I've got my eye on.
• 5:44
  Speaker B: Yes, Yes, I think so. I think all the speckled Y ones have actually.
• 5:52
  Speaker A: I know it's hard not to be kind of doggy, like, biased by their coloring, but the speckled Y ones are cute.
• 5:59
  Speaker B: Yeah, they are really cute. I mean, they're just. All of them are really, really sweet. And it's. And it all stands back to their mum. She is literally just divine. She's the sweetest, sweetest thing and. Yeah.
• 6:12
  Speaker A: So what are they? They're collies. Mum's collie. Is she the collie that comes in on camera sometimes?
• 6:18
  Speaker B: Yeah, sometimes. She's really lovely. And dad is a miniature poodle, which is so bizarre. I mean, I never. James is so traditional and loves his working dogs and. And when he said, I'm gonna. I'm gonna put her to a miniature poodle, I was like, I'm sorry, have you been drinking or. Or smoking those funny cigarettes again? Not that he ever. He's now I think he's ever smoked in his life. And he was like, no, no, I think it. I think it could be really. I think I could be a really good mix. And I was like, okay. But anyway, tell me. Tell me about the World Cup.
• 6:57
  Speaker A: Yes, I've been to the World Cup. That Sounds weird, doesn't it? In Texas. Oh, my Christ. All that was going on in my head the whole time I was there was this. In Texas. It's just like. It's like one of those earworms that you can't. And I wasn't. It's not even the right song because I was in Texas. Do you know what? I'm gonna start with the. It was bloody hard work because we were live for Germany for Clip My Horse in out show in the mornings, but then working all day editing and recording VTs, and then the actual competition wasn't even starting till 7 o' clock at night. So I think the least amount of hours I did in one day was 15. The most was 18. But when you're seeing what.
• 7:41
  Speaker B: Sorry, that is a mission.
• 7:43
  Speaker A: It is, but it's a mission with. I mean, we're not curing cancer, are we? We're watching herbivores jump sticks or dance. So I don't feel I'm in a position to moan, but there is something about watching such amazing quality competition and amazing horses that just. It kind of spurs you on and keeps you going. But what a privilege, a joy. I cannot say enough words about how lucky I was to see even working and being paid to be there to watch Becky Moody win the World Cup. Like, just how lucky. Like, not only because she is just someone who deserves it so much. Like, I cannot tell you how lovely she is, but it just felt like a full circle moment for her and like her family weren't there. So Kim said I could come on the kiss and cry. So in that kind of 15 minutes from start to finish, I was there as a friend, not as a journalist. And that was just amazing. Cause I've never been able to do that. Normally I'm working. I never actually get to see the competition. I'm in some hut somewhere watching on a screen or literally we're so far under the arena where we're doing the interviews in the mix zone, that you can't even hear the crowd. That is how far into the building we were. So for, like, as Becky was going down the funnel, Kim was like, get on the kiss and cry. I was like, oh, okay. And the kiss and cry is where you stand to watch if you're family or friends. And just being there, like with Kim, and we were. Was so funny, like, so I don't know if anyone's been to a championship. Normally by the freestyle, the crowd have kind of got the hang of it and they start clapping in time to the piaffe. Or the passage down the final center line, because it's normally a piaf or passage or a canter down or something. But at this Simon, they were cheering and clapping from the start, literally going nuts. Any bit of music they recognize, they were going nuts. I saw Patrick Kittle before he went in, who, by the way, I know he gets a lot of shit online, is the nicest man. And I will talk about him because he's had a lot of crap in the past and I've actually changed my opinion of him massively. He was amazing, but he was like, jenny, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna canter and I'm gonna get killed. He's gonna run off with me. They're gonna cheer. I'm not even gonna be able to halt. But he was there for it and he was like, this is what needs to happen to dressage. So Becky's like, music is the Beatles, so of course everyone knows it.
• 10:08
  Speaker B: Everyone knows the Beatles, yeah.
• 10:09
  Speaker A: And whistling and going nuts and then the music.
• 10:14
  Speaker B: To be fair, though, I'm not surprised that they went nuts because, like, watching her entry, she kind of comes in, she holds, then she picks up count, does two pirouettes, then does one time changes down the center line, then does two more pirouettes and then goes off on those two time changes on the circle, didn't she? Or something like that. Like, something really spectacularly amazing and technical and difficult. And no wonder they went mad. Like, it was just so sensational to watch and quite emotional. Like, I was at Tetworth Horse Trials, which was a brilliant event, actually, by the way. Just a side note. And Vanessa, who's the entry secretary, I went to go and say thank you at the end of the day, and she was there watching her phone, she was crying, and I was like, oh, God, are you all right? She's like, I'm just watching Becky mooding, doing the World cup dressage, it's just amazing. And she's not really a dressage person. They really touched her. And so it's no wonder they all go so mad and, like. And are so behind it. Brilliant.
• 11:10
  Speaker A: Oh, it was so unbelievable. It was so unbelievable. Also, I ended up on the bloody TV when I was meant to be working. So I was like, oh, hide, hide. But just, oh. And it was just Becky got off her horse and came round and just gave me one of those hugs where she wasn't letting go. Like, do you know what I mean? I went to give her a hug, but she like. And I went to pull back and she Was like, obviously not ready to pull back yet. And I was like, oh, this is like a proper hug. Like, I love a hug. And she's not emotional. Kim was crying and then the schools came in and one of the judges gave her over 90, which is just insane. That's when Kim really started crying. Becky's. I'm not gonna call Kim Becky's groom, because she's her mate who comes to her, takes her annual leave off her marketing job and goes and helps Becky when she travels. Kim is just an absolute hero. You know Kim really well as well, don't you? Yeah, but it was just so extraordinary. And then there's a couple of other amazing riders. There's a kid called. I say kid, he's like 20. Like Christian Simonsen, who, again, was just so fun and amazing and just had such a laugh. And I've just never been to a dressage competition.
• 12:17
  Speaker B: His interview afterwards was really nice.
• 12:20
  Speaker A: Oh, my God, he's so lovely. You would love him. He was so sweet. And he came because I said to him, look, I've watched so many dressage tests, your. Your relationship with your horse, and, like, you hear him in interviews about his horse. I was like, it's just what dressage needs. And I just think you're really amazing. And after the press conference, he came up and found me. He was like, I just wanted to say thank you so much for your words. They mean so much, because I love my horse so much. And I was like, oh, you didn't have to do that. That's really sweet. You're lovely.
• 12:44
  Speaker B: That's nice. That's nice. Genuine.
• 12:47
  Speaker A: This is where I love Patrick Kittle. So we're in the press conference and I've only ever seen him. I've never interviewed him. I've. I know he got some crap during the Olympics because everyone said it was in roll curl, but actually, when you relooked at the footage, it was a. The horse was trying to bite a fly off his neck. But anyway, that, by the by, I'm going on my relationship and how I've met him, and he was so lovely to watch in the warmup. He was so lovely about his horses. And you can't fake that. You can tell when it's fake. And then in the press conference, someone said to Becky, sorry, I'm rattling on, but I just feel so passionately about trying to do good in dressage. In the dress press conference, someone said to Becky, why is it. Why did you win? Like, what did the judges love about you over the other riders? Which is a bit of a tricky question.
• 13:32
  Speaker B: I mean, that's a really awkward question. I'd hate to be asked that.
• 13:35
  Speaker A: Yeah. And also, you know, Becky, she's not going to sit there and go, by the way, I'm brilliant. And her response was, well, because I've got an amazing pony. And Patrick went, can I interrupt you, Becky? Can I answer this on your behalf? And the room kind of went very quiet, like, this doesn't happen in press conferences. Fuck, where's this going? And he went, she won because of her amazing riding and the way the horse goes for her. She has that horse shows, no tension. He's so relaxed. Her training is so amazing. He's never in an uncomfortable frame. He's always slightly ahead of the vertical. He is what Bressage should be about. And he basically went on this massive, like, rant about how amazing Becky is and why she won and how good she is for the sport. And I was like, do you know what? And he meant it like, it was so genuine. And I was like, fair. Fair, fuck. Like, amazing. And then Christian Simonson ended up in one of my interviews with Becky and he basically ignored me. And I loved it because he looked at Becky and he was like, I've been following you for years. I'm such a fan. And I watched you at this nation's cup. And I loved Bomb. And it was so nice just to see Becky being recognized. She's not got the flashiest horse. She's got a horse who does everything correctly. He's not a world beater in the fact that he's doing these big trots and big movements, but she is being recognized for correct, good dressage. Yeah. A total ass, flying legs everywhere type dressage.
• 15:06
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker A: And because some of the other names weren't there, it really shone a spotlight on some beautiful stories. This girl who'd come from Serena island, who'd come from Australia, and her giant dad, who was a proper Aussie bloke. I got him on my camera and I was, like, doing interviews, like, I'm so proud, like, sobbing. You can probably do a better Australian accent than me. So all these amazing stories came out because a couple of other names weren't there. And it was just so positive. Sorry, I've ranted for a long time.
• 15:37
  Speaker B: No, it's great.
• 15:39
  Speaker A: It was so lovely. It was so lovely. And if you want to see any of those, go on, clip my horses in out show. Because a lot of those interviews, like, it was Serena and her family and her dad were all on there and. And Stuff. And I was crying, Simon. I cried so many times. Interviewing all these riders and Morgan, who retired her horse, I was like, oh, my God. She was like, he's just gonna go and live in the field and eat bananas. And I was like, oh, my God. And then I was like, bananas. Okay. Weird, but yes, but yeah. So you got to watch it. Did you. Was there. Were there tears? Symi.
• 16:11
  Speaker B: Well, no, not tears, but I definitely. It was very emotional to watch. It was. It was. It was spectacular. And obviously, like, because I've ridden him, you know, that's why he was going so well. Obviously, it's all down to my training, clearly. No, because I've ridden him. Like, he's just. He is the most phenomenal horse. Absolutely phenomenal. Like, he's just. He's so. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. She's obviously has trained him absolutely beautifully, but his. His mindset is just so wonderful. He's so. He so wants to help, so wants to do good. And he. It's just. I think he's just a wonderful, wonderful horse in so many ways. He's so beautiful, but yet he's also got this fantastic personality. He's a little bit like. Like his rider. I think she's supremely talented, but her main thing is her mindset. And she's so focused, but yet so lovely at the same time. I think it's wonderful. Really wonderful.
• 17:15
  Speaker A: Did you watch it any differently now you'd ridden him?
• 17:21
  Speaker B: Do you know, it's really weird, actually, with that. I almost feel like I haven't ridden him. I feel slightly. I don't know, I feel a bit weird about it. Like, I don't know. That's. That's not the horse I rode, is it? But obviously, as you know, I had the most wonderful time riding him. It was. It was spectacular. But for him to then go and do that, I was like, wow. Was that. Was that me riding here? It's. Yeah. I can't describe it. I sound like an absolute idiot. But, yeah, I. Yeah, it's very odd. Very odd feeling.
• 17:55
  Speaker A: I get it. I wrote, well, obviously, like, a long time ago now, but Valegro me on Valgro is still my WhatsApp profile picture.
• 18:03
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker A: And it's. It's not my kids. It's me on Valegro. Like, I know what you mean, but it's almost like you. You've got to decompartmentalize it, like a little bit. Like, you're like that. That's not what I did. So cool. It's like Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker B: I mean, it's such a privilege to be able to write that. Such a privilege. And she, again, that makes her so spectacular is that. You know, we had that conversation, didn't we, at your horse life, about me riding him at the tour. And it was. I can't remember who. I think she was the one that suggested it, actually.
• 18:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. We're over dinner at your horse live. And you were like, yeah, what?
• 18:44
  Speaker B: And. But like, wow. Like, who do you know that would do that? That were like. Especially the week before, she was doing a big show at Amsterdam the next week. Who do you know, professional rider that would allow some random to go and ride their.
• 19:00
  Speaker A: You're not a random. You're pretty good at riding.
• 19:03
  Speaker B: But it is pretty random, isn't it? You know, Anyway, I just think it's incredibly generous. Incredibly generous. But just. That's her all over.
• 19:12
  Speaker A: But she did say in the press conference, she said, he's the horse at home, that if I've got a good working pupil, I let them have a feel of changes and what it should feel like. And Patrick Kittle went, can I come and work for you, please? And then she said, well, if you go down to the stockyards in Fort Worth, you can pay 10 bucks to have a picture taken on a cow. She was like, so maybe I should start charging, like, $20 a ride. And Patrick was like, I'm in. I will pay. So everyone was like, should we all put money in a hat for a ride on Jaeger Bomb?
• 19:46
  Speaker B: He'd be very busy.
• 19:48
  Speaker A: He'd be very busy.
• 19:49
  Speaker B: He would be very busy. So, yeah, real. It's such a privilege. Such a privilege.
• 19:53
  Speaker A: And I can confirm, although I won't share all of it, that Becky did have an excellent night out the next night with Kim. I was meant to join them, but by the time I finished work, it was one o' clock in the morning and I had to be on camera at 8. And I was like, I am not. I am not gonna be able to get on camera if I go on a Becky Moody and Kim night out. So. But I can confirm her. The only thing I can repeat is Jaeger bombs are more strong in Texas. Enough said, Enough said. You can create your own narrative from there, I think.
• 20:27
  Speaker B: And they had. All of you had an absolutely wonderful time.
• 20:31
  Speaker A: Yes, it was. And then I had to cover the show jumping where Kent Farrington was victorious. But he wasn't my standout. Simon Grieve was not my standout.
• 20:43
  Speaker B: Who was the standout?
• 20:45
  Speaker A: Richard Vogel.
• 20:47
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 20:48
  Speaker A: Yes, he is famous. He's got some lovely horses. But he was on Gangster, who is not as experienced indoors. And his first round, he had a bit of a shocker going up a line and he came out and he was like. And I was like, richard, you. You put in a seven stride there when I think you were planning on doing the six. Like, what happened? Blah, blah, blah. And he was like. He was like, it's just bad riding. I'm. My poor horse. I rode so badly. All of this and going on about how terrible his riding was, and I was like, you're pretty fucking good at riding Richard Vogel. And I did. I was like, sod it. Cause I've never interviewed him. I was like, I'm gonna say it. And I was like, richard, I think they call that a pat the horse, kick the rider moment. Held my breath to see how well he would take it. And he went, absolutely. I totally agree. I was like, thank God. Then the next day, he fell off after the last fence. He got the last fence completely wrong, Went completely. Ended up halfway off, but fell off after the time gates. So he was still through to the next round, but he fell off. And again, true champion came and did an interview, still dusting himself off. And I was like, richard, bad luck. The round was pretty good up till that point, but bad luck at the end, he was like, genuinely, it was not bad luck, it was bad riding. And again went on about how he felt bad for his horse and he'd ridden it so badly and hadn't done the horse justice and just. The horse didn't deserv bad riding and he needed to pull himself together. And I was like. And he spoke so beautifully about his horse and he was like, not making excuses, but Gangster's not that experienced at indoors at this level. And I was just like. I just had such a respect for him. You had Plane Simon Greave. He dusted himself up, and on the last day on the biggest two tracks I've ever seen, he went double clear. Like, talk about mindset, right?
• 22:42
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker A: Talk about amazing horse.
• 22:43
  Speaker B: But, yeah.
• 22:45
  Speaker A: Yeah, I just was so impressed by him. I mean, how hard is it to do that? To come back and then especially having
• 22:51
  Speaker B: had two rounds where you genuinely thought you rode really badly.
• 22:53
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker B: But then come out and then do that the next time. That says a lot.
• 22:57
  Speaker A: He must have done some mindset y type things like you do. Do you know what I mean?
• 23:03
  Speaker B: Well, you'd have thought so, wouldn't you?
• 23:05
  Speaker A: Yeah, he was very impressive. Very impressive. And the horse was lovely. And then I also Fell in love with a horse called Chandi, ridden by Akin Sato, who's a Japanese rider. And this horse is a big gangly beast, but my God, I loved it. And this guy hardly speaks any English, this Japanese rider, but on the last day, and he was going clear all the way through, was in fourth place. It was like this big story. But then he got colic and couldn't compete on the last day.
• 23:31
  Speaker B: Oh, no.
• 23:32
  Speaker A: And I saw Ekin in the warm up the following day and I gave him a little wa, telling him how much I love his horse and he came and gave me a hug. It was really sweet.
• 23:40
  Speaker B: Was he okay?
• 23:41
  Speaker A: He was okay, yeah. There's an Australian vet called Chris out there who told me that, yeah, he was really bad at one point, but they pulled him through and he was okay. But Erkin looked just so sad and I, I genuinely don't think he was heartbroken because of the World Cup. He was heartbroken because his pony was poorly. And just riders like that, like, it just gave me a bit of hope. Simon Grieve. A bit of hope.
• 24:03
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Can but hope. Can but hope.
• 24:07
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker B: Because there are some great people out there.
• 24:09
  Speaker A: There are. There's also some absolute knob jockeys, but.
• 24:13
  Speaker B: Absolutely, absolutely. I completely agree.
• 24:16
  Speaker A: And then the thing that annoyed me about the World cup was the price of tickets. Probably going to lose my job over this. Who can afford 300 quid a ticket?
• 24:27
  Speaker B: Wow. God, that is a lot.
• 24:29
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker B: Crike.
• 24:29
  Speaker A: Being like, there's so much we could do to get this sport. Like, why on the Thursday did they not give out tickets? People can watch the dressage and the show jumping all in one day or ten quid a ticket and then be like, right, if you come back Friday, Saturday, it's only 30 quid a ticket. Do you know what I mean? Surely having it sold out is better than 50% for only the rich.
• 24:52
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Nope, I agree. I concur.
• 24:57
  Speaker A: So anyway, that was my World Cup. I was very tired. And now tomorrow morning at 4 o' clock in the morning, I gotta go to Kentucky.
• 25:04
  Speaker B: Oh, yes, of course, we've got Kentucky.
• 25:07
  Speaker A: Exciting, I know. When are you gonna come to bloody Kentucky?
• 25:13
  Speaker B: Who knows? I genuinely don't know. I did go once. I went in 2001. Maybe, maybe 2000. 2001, maybe 2002. I can't remember, but it was absolutely amazing. It's such a brilliant show, isn't it? And I just love the American enthusiasm.
• 25:32
  Speaker A: Okay, I have a question for you. There's, I think 33 in the start list. It might have gone down to 31. How many are in the start list for badminton? 80.
• 25:40
  Speaker B: Oh, that. I'm not sure. I think there's like 72 or something.
• 25:44
  Speaker A: America's a really big place.
• 25:47
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker A: Why is there not more?
• 25:53
  Speaker B: That's a good question. I don't really know, to be honest.
• 25:56
  Speaker A: I mean, why are the Brits so good at eventing over everyone else?
• 26:01
  Speaker B: Well, I mean, we are the place to come to do eventing. We've got the. The best network of events, we've got the best course designers on our doorstep. Got. There's so many. And. And it's this. It's really good to talk about this because it's so often forgotten. Always. We spend all our time at the British Venting and Rise are complaining about this and that and the other. Actually, we are the Mecca of eventing, where everyone comes here to. To, you know, if you're talking to a New Zealand rider who's riding out New Zealand, or talk to someone in America and you say, oh, maybe you should come over to the UK and do some, like, ride here to get some experience. Absolutely, that's what I want to do. It's just a question of affording it. Everyone. Everyone wants to come here, but in such a. Like, for us, it's miles, but actually it's. It's. There's so many events in such a small kind of area.
• 26:51
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker B: You're like. To go eventing in America, you have to drive for hours. Like, hours and hours and hours to
• 26:56
  Speaker A: get to an amaze.
• 26:57
  Speaker B: Yeah. And, like, you know, to drive up to Scone, for example, like, takes like nine hours or whatever it is. We're like, oh, my God, that's so far. But for them, that's literally. That's quite local. Yeah, it's like, it's. Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty. But I think that's probably got quite a lot to do with it. And, you know, like, qualifying for five star is no mean feat. Like, it takes a lot to qualify for five star, so that's a lot of traveling and even more expensive as a result.
• 27:26
  Speaker A: Who is your money on? Have you looked at the start list for Kentucky? Do you think Harry win a five star? Which sounds weird. He's never won a five star.
• 27:38
  Speaker B: I think he. I think he probably could. Yeah. I think Tom would be quite high up there on my list to Tom McEwen.
• 27:49
  Speaker A: I think next year you should aim for Kentucky.
• 27:54
  Speaker B: Yeah, but it's affording it. I did look into it. I thought if I didn't get into badminton, then maybe I might try to go to Kentucky. But I would need to do something like crowdfunding or something like that, which. And I don't know. I don't know how comfortable I feel about crowdfunding. It's 40,000 kidney.
• 28:11
  Speaker A: You don't need both of those.
• 28:12
  Speaker B: You're sorry.
• 28:13
  Speaker A: You could sell a kidney.
• 28:13
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. But I've only got part of a kidney on one side. Yes, yes.
• 28:18
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker B: You know, they're not the best of kidneys, I don't think so. I'm not sure that I'll be able to sell them for very much. But it's like it's £40,000 there and back for the horse. Like, that is a lot of money.
• 28:34
  Speaker A: And think what you could do with £40,000.
• 28:38
  Speaker B: But then you get someone like Harry or Tom, they're going out there and the likelihood of them winning is fairly high, like, you know, and they're going to make quite a lot of money going and doing that.
• 28:52
  Speaker A: Yeah. And that's more than a bucket and a rug you get for winning a five star.
• 28:57
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And like, the prize money at badminton's quite good now.
• 29:02
  Speaker A: Right, well, let's talk badminton. First of all, we are going to be there on the Thursday, please, Thursday night.
• 29:07
  Speaker B: Come and join us, guys. Come and join us because it's going to be really fun. It's going to be really fun.
• 29:11
  Speaker A: You don't have to buy a ticket to see us, you have to buy a ticket to get into badminton. But I think you can also just buy to go shopping in the evening. But you don't have to buy a ticket to come and see us. Lots of people have been asking.
• 29:22
  Speaker B: It is Thursday night, late night, shopping night then?
• 29:24
  Speaker A: It is, yes, apparently. But we are on at 5:30 by the lake. And drumroll. Laura Collett has said she will come and join us. I love her.
• 29:37
  Speaker B: Excellent news.
• 29:38
  Speaker A: I love her. She is so fun. She has no filter. She's fucking awesome. She is the best. And I'm gonna try and track down Tim Price because I think he'd be really fun.
• 29:49
  Speaker B: Yeah, I think that sounds good to me.
• 29:52
  Speaker A: Right, Simon, Grieve. The draw has happened.
• 29:56
  Speaker B: The draw has happened. I'm number 11.
• 30:00
  Speaker A: Lucky 11.
• 30:01
  Speaker B: Lucky 11. I do like the number 11. The only thing is that it is early. I'm very early, like. So Harry's got three rides or three. Three entries. So he's double entries.
• 30:14
  Speaker A: You're not allowed three, are you?
• 30:15
  Speaker B: No. So he's double. He's double yeah. You are allowed three.
• 30:17
  Speaker A: When did that change?
• 30:20
  Speaker B: Since they had not that many entries. So as long as everyone's accepted, they'll accept three rides, which. And good for Harry.
• 30:28
  Speaker A: That just sounds exhausting.
• 30:31
  Speaker B: It just. It sounds like it's a really good way of getting good at it. Yeah. If you keep doing it one after the other after the other, then that's, you know, you're bound to get really fast on the last ride, aren't you?
• 30:45
  Speaker A: This is what you're doing wrong, Sime.
• 30:47
  Speaker B: Yeah, I need more.
• 30:49
  Speaker A: Maybe you should run round on foot then borrow a pony club pony and then go on Buster.
• 30:55
  Speaker B: Yeah. I'm the first to go of the single horse riders.
• 31:01
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 31:04
  Speaker B: So I won't. I'll be on the Thursday morning early for dressage, which is. Which is a bit disappointing as a. It's is an untalked about thing that just. Sarge. On the Friday of a big three day event. Normally the judges end up being more generous on the Friday. It's a bit of an ongoing thing that, that does happen.
• 31:26
  Speaker A: Not this year. They'll be bored by then.
• 31:28
  Speaker B: Yeah. And I kind of think where I am, they'll be warmed up but not tired. So that's good. And on cross country day I won't be able to watch anybody go, which. Which is. Yeah, it's good. It's quite good to watch somebody else go. But equally, I was second to go at Burley one year, so I didn't get to watch anyone and. And I didn't have. There was no feedback either, obviously, because I was second to go and I rode better that day than I ever had before. And so there's quite a lot to be said to just getting out there and doing it.
• 32:06
  Speaker A: I think so, because remember, I'm not going to say the event, but there was something. You had your thing and someone told you to do another thing and it didn't work out and it got. And you know, your shit. I reckon you're better.
• 32:19
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker A: Doing your thing.
• 32:21
  Speaker B: And I, you know, Buster is on really, really good form. Really good form. And I'm on good form, so. And I feel, yeah, obviously things can go wrong. Of course they can. But I feel in a really good place and I feel like he's in a really good place. I don't want to sound like a twat, but I. I kind of feel like he's in his prime and I feel like I am in his prime.
• 32:50
  Speaker A: Lucky James, but.
• 32:52
  Speaker B: But I. My riding prime, because. Lucky James, because I'm confident. But. Yeah, but I'VE also got. No. This is going to be my 20th five star. So I've got experience and knowledge and now I can make use of it without being a pansy, if that makes any kind of sense.
• 33:15
  Speaker A: You'll always be a pansy, my love.
• 33:18
  Speaker B: So I kind of. I feel, I feel in a really good mindset at the moment. I'm not promising that's going to last. Remain like that. I need to work. Make sure I work on that. But I feel really good about it.
• 33:32
  Speaker A: Feels like a good round number. Lucky number 11. If you could watch anyone go from the list, who would it be? If it was a magical scenario?
• 33:43
  Speaker B: I mean, I'd love to watch Rozgo.
• 33:45
  Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Obvs, obvs.
• 33:47
  Speaker B: I'd love to watch that game Harry's first go. So I might be able to see him over a couple, but we're very different.
• 33:58
  Speaker A: You're very different.
• 34:01
  Speaker B: So it's a bit like. Is there any point in watching that? I'm not sure. And also, I haven't seen the course. It might be them, like. Yeah, I know, I know what we're going to do here, so I don't need to, I don't need to watch anybody else.
• 34:14
  Speaker A: Do you know if they're going to bring back the Vicarage V or anything like that?
• 34:18
  Speaker B: I'm sure we'll jump the Vicarage V.
• 34:20
  Speaker A: Is there a way of practicing a Vicarage voice?
• 34:24
  Speaker B: Not really, but I am gonna, I'm gonna have a look at the Horse and Hound and see what there is and try and maybe mock up a few bits and bobs a few lines at home, like I did for Burley. So I can go in being like, yep, I practice this. He knows what he's doing. I know what I'm doing. This is all good.
• 34:44
  Speaker A: I'm so excited for you. You're just.
• 34:46
  Speaker B: I'm really excited. It's going to be, it's going to be great. And if it's not great, then we, we go on and then we'll, we'll do something else and I'm sure that'll be fun too, but I, I, yeah, I'm really excited about it.
• 34:59
  Speaker A: This is so exciting. And I am working there, so I'm going to be there.
• 35:02
  Speaker B: I know you're going to be there.
• 35:05
  Speaker A: Yes. They're actually employing me. They're crazy.
• 35:08
  Speaker B: And it's really. And it's really lovely. The Ben's going to be there as well, actually.
• 35:11
  Speaker A: Oh, my God, it's so exciting. I just, I, I may not be able to control My emotions. When you cross that finish line, there may be some shrieking, there may be tears, there may be. I might just dress up as you for the day. Giant slimy face. It would be very over the top. Oh, fuck me. You should see me. I crammed my eyes out when Becky did. Well, what am I gonna be like when you do it? Jesus. Oh, it's so exciting. Right, so how a lot of people want to know. I know we've spoken about it at all, but confidence wise, how are you preparing? Are you doing any of your mindset majiggly seeing anyone?
• 35:51
  Speaker B: Yeah, I've got, I'm having mindset sessions once a week. I'm also trying to make sure that I'm really organized. I'm not doing as much teaching in the build up to badminton so that I'm not going into the week tired. I'm quite tired right now, but in the next couple of weeks and I'm doing an event this weekend with a few horses, but after that I've got no more events kind of lined up days away. It's 14, isn't it?
• 36:26
  Speaker A: Oh, it's 11 till I fly. All right.
• 36:28
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so I'm going to get my event, the weekend done and then, and then kind of not back off, back off, but like just take it, take it a little bit easier. Probably back off my own fitness stuff a little bit so that I'm really, really ready to rock and roll. But yeah, so. And I think that's important for mindset to not be tired and play with puppies. And I think being tired is such a thing. Yeah, it has such an effect on, I'm sure on lots of people. But it definitely has an effect on me and my confidence and my mindset because, you know, it's like when you're really tired and something's not going very well, something's going wrong. It's always like, oh my God, this is so bad. And then you have a good sleep and you're like, oh, actually that's not quite as bad as I thought. Or you look back on it like you know, a couple of weeks later and like, why did I get so upset about that? It wasn't that bad. Like there's always a way through these things. But yeah, my mindset is at the moment is pretty good
• 37:32
  Speaker A: and how. I want to know how your acting is going. Your new acting course, is it fun?
• 37:37
  Speaker B: So, yeah, it's really good. It's really good. We're doing the last two times we've done quite a Lot of physical theatre. And I went on Monday night and I was really tired.
• 37:51
  Speaker A: Oh, sorry.
• 37:53
  Speaker B: I had quite a long weekend at Burnham Market and then on the way home, my lorry broke down.
• 38:00
  Speaker A: Oh, God. Did you get picked up by a French man and taken to a chateau this time?
• 38:03
  Speaker B: No, not this time. No, not this time. But I did get. I did get picked up by Matt, who was a very, very nice man from tears recovery, who was superb. And he. So. So we. We stopped. I pulled up in a slightly dodgy spot on the A149. So they. And Seib, who, my insurance people, they organized the breakdown recovery and they sent two horse. Two small horse boxes to take the. And then they sent this great big lorry truck to put my lorry in the back of. And then it drove me back to the yard and now it's fixed, so it's all ready to go. But they did it. It was so efficient and so well done. But it was really weird when I. So I stayed with the truck, Maggie was with me. And then the horses went off in these two. Two in convoy and these two. Two horse lorries. And I got quite emotional, like, when they went. I kind of. Yeah, I just. Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all. And I can't explain why that was, but I just. I just didn't like it. I was like, they're my. They're my responsibility. They're my team, they're my gang and I'm literally, like, not ditching them, but, like, I feel like I've done. I should have. I don't know. I don't know what I thought, but I got. I got quite upset. So strange. It was so strange.
• 39:30
  Speaker A: Oh, Simon.
• 39:31
  Speaker B: But they're fine. They're fine. And I don't know why I was being like that because obviously Maggie's perfectly capable of looking after them, but. Yeah, I just felt like, you know, when I suppose in my head, the journey was. It was my responsibility to make sure they got wherever they were safely because I'd planned the journey and then I wasn't delivering my side of the deal, so.
• 39:53
  Speaker A: I mean, you're the talent, though, darling.
• 39:56
  Speaker B: Well, apparently not. I think you'll find that actually they are.
• 40:02
  Speaker A: You just get horses to wear you.
• 40:05
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so then Matt came and picked me up and he was great crack. He was so funny and very entertaining and it was really nice to be driven home, actually, in this whacking great big truck. And then we didn't get back till. Well, Nearly midnight. And then the next day I had a fairly busy day of, like, coaching and riding. And then I went to my acting course in the evening and I. I just. I was like, oh, I'm really tired enough. Oh, I can't. I don't. Anyway, I was like, oh, come on, get a grip on yourself. Let's go. So I went. And it's.
• 40:37
  Speaker A: It's just.
• 40:37
  Speaker B: I just. It's. It's such a. I highly recommend doing something like that as it doesn't have to be acting. It could be anything, but something just a little bit different, something removed from your norm. And I loved it. I love. Really cool.
• 40:52
  Speaker A: Do you walk in as a different person? Are you soliciting? Although they all.
• 40:57
  Speaker B: They all do know me as the Horseman now, so. But, yeah, they still been your trousers
• 41:05
  Speaker A: or is it because you ride horses?
• 41:10
  Speaker B: So there's two or three of them that follow me on Instagram now and they know what I do and they have a bit more of an idea.
• 41:19
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 41:20
  Speaker B: Sarah, who's lovely, she messaged me and she was like, so you said you're doing a big event this. This spring. What. What event is it? And I was like, it's called Badminton Horse Trials. And she said, what class are you doing? And I was like, I'm doing. I'm doing the five. The five Star. And then. And she.
• 41:41
  Speaker A: Checking to see if you were doing the grassroots.
• 41:43
  Speaker B: And I don't know. I don't know, but. But then. Then she messaged me back and she's like, oh, my husband says that's a big deal. I was like, well, your husband would be right. She's like, he's really. He's really in. He's really into sport. He's really. And I was like, yeah. So he would know. And then said. And then tell me. I said, do you know Zara Tindall? And I was like, yes, I do. She's like, oh, my God, that's amazing. I was like, not really. I just. I just see her most weekends. Like, she's. And she's totally Norma. And then she's like, do you know William Fox Pitt? And I was like, yeah, no, William. He's really cool. And she's like, do you know Pippa Funnel? And I was like, yes. And she's like, I have no idea who any of these people are. My husband just keeps on giving me these names.
• 42:32
  Speaker A: Nothing like that to ground you.
• 42:37
  Speaker B: She was very sweet. She's very sweet.
• 42:39
  Speaker A: That is amazing. That's like. I had. I made a friend. I've made a friend, one of the dads that said school. And then he said to me the other day, went, I googled you. You're a minor celebrity. Emphasis on the minor. I, I don't know that is the word celebrity could ever be used with me. But thank you for googling me. That's that. Yes, thank you.
• 43:05
  Speaker B: I, I, I had another one of them. She was like, so, so you ride horses? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do it as a job. I've got a friend who's into horses. Would she know who you are? And I was like, I doubt it. You can certainly try. But she said, well, what's your name? And I was like, oh, so I'm grieving. She's like, oh, I'll mention your name to her and see what she says. So I'll find out next week how
• 43:30
  Speaker A: famous you really are if the friend
• 43:31
  Speaker B: has heard of you. Yeah. I said, I'm sure she'll have no idea who I am, so it's fine.
• 43:35
  Speaker A: But the friend might be into dressage.
• 43:37
  Speaker B: Well, exactly. So who knows?
• 43:39
  Speaker A: Who knows? I had it once a friend of mine who worked for MI5 and he always had problems because obviously he traveled a lot in MI5 and he always tried to have problems getting his expenses paid back. And the woman didn't like him who was in charge of the expenses. And one day he'd had enough and he went to the identifies, hr, whoever, the accounting office, and said to the lady who's in charge of managing the expenses, please can you pay my expenses more promptly? Blah, blah, blah. And he noticed a picture of her on a horse on her desk. And she was like, oh, are you into horses? And she was like, yes, obsessed, Obsessed, I love my horses. Blah, blah, blah. And for some unknown reason, he went, do you know my friend Jenny Rudle? And she went, I love her. Like, and I think it was, I had shows on TV at the time and on Sky. And he was like, oh, yeah, she's a really good friend of mine. Apparently, from that day forwards, his expenses were paid immediately.
• 44:32
  Speaker B: But there you go.
• 44:33
  Speaker A: Well, there you go. Yeah. See, I was of use, the one person who knew who I was in the whole world.
• 44:38
  Speaker B: Very useful.
• 44:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. And my nephew's ex girlfriend. Ex girlfriend, now girlfriend. He was like, auntie Jenny, I didn't realize that people knew who you were. Like, oliver, I'm on tv. And he's just like, yeah, my girlfriend's heard of you. She likes horses. I'm like, oh, thanks, Oliver. Nothing like your family to bring you crashing back down to earth.
• 45:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, I love it.
• 45:05
  Speaker A: Do you want to hear about my very embarrassing moment at the World Cup?
• 45:09
  Speaker B: Absolutely. Go for it.
• 45:11
  Speaker A: You know how much I love Laura Kraut.
• 45:13
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 45:14
  Speaker A: Who? Anyone who doesn't know who Laura Kraut is. Fucking show me.
• 45:19
  Speaker B: She's absolutely sensational.
• 45:21
  Speaker A: She has won gold medals at the Olympics. She is, I think, the best show jumper in the world. She's also wonderful to her horses and she's just amazing and I love her. But also, above all of that, she's so kind and just lovely and always remember who's everyone is. Anyway, so at the World cup in the main arena, CBS had said, could we borrow your camera op videographer to do some filming because we need to do an interview with Laura Kraut. And I was like, well, I am not in charge of Thomas, but if Thomas is up for doing it, then yes, you can. You can use him. So anyway, I had to then film with Thomas straight afterwards. So they're in the. I'm standing in the funnel and they're filming with Laura Kraut on one side of the arena. On the other side of the arena. The band for that night, for the big night on the Saturday, is about to warm up and they start striking their guitars as this interview's going on. And they all kind of look over at me, the team filming and anything you can do about that noise. So I was like, oh, fuck it. Why not help out where I can? So I bundle on over to this band and go. Because they love an English accent, the Americans. They do. They really do very well over there. Yeah. So I think I just got really posh. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm terribly sorry. Why I have to be like a absolute twat like this? I don't know. I'm really, really sorry. But over there is an absolute goddess of an Olympian, because I thought they might not be horsey. So if I say Olympics, everyone gets Olympics. She's won golds at Olympics. She's an absolute goddess. She's just got a couple minutes left on interview. Is there any way that you could just hold off for a second?
• 46:55
  Speaker B: Hold fire for a minute?
• 46:56
  Speaker A: Yeah. They were so nice. Simon, like, chatted to all of them. They were really lovely. So I was like, go for it, guys. Anyway, they held off, did the interview, finished. Everyone is staring at me. I'm like, why is everyone, like, giving me a weird vibe? Okay, never mind. Anyway, look, they finished the interview and they give me the thumbs up and I'm like, oh, my God. Thank you so much, guys. They were like, oh, we're so sorry to interrupt you. I was like, well, it wasn't my interview, but thank you. Like, we had a chat with them. And then I walk over to where Laura is, and the bands start, like, striking up, and everybody's just staring at me as I walk back, and I'm like, what have I. Like, what have I done wrong here? What have I done wrong? So Laura. And then I get over, and Laura's like, I can't believe you did that. Like, what? She was like, they're really famous. I was like. She was like, they're really famous. They've won multiple Grammys. And I was like, well, I have no idea who they are, Laura, but I know, and you're a goddess, and quite frankly, everyone has to wait for you. And she is laughing her ass off. And the whole camera crew were like, can't believe you did this. I was like, I have no idea who they are. So anyway, they start their rehearsal, and they're all telling, and they're like. And they start. I'm gonna do a very bad impression of the song. And they start singing this song. It's a quarter after one. I'm all alone and I need you now. I was like, oh, no.
• 48:13
  Speaker B: They're really good then.
• 48:15
  Speaker A: And it's. They're called Lady A. And they're, like, really famous, especially in America. Absolutely huge. Like, I. Then they. I was like, oh, my God, I really recognize them. And Laura was like, they're one of my favorite bands. I was like, you should have come over and said, hello, there's me chatting away. I Google them. Something like 15 million followers on Instagram. And then I looked at, like, what else did I look? I've watched, like, four Grammys. It's like, oh. Oh, yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker B: But you made a very valid point.
• 48:45
  Speaker A: I think so. And. But then Laura goes around telling everybody. So I had Lauren Huff coming up to me going, jenny, I hear you are the band stopper if we ever need someone to be interrupted. Can you. Lauren. Also Olympic show jumper, but yes. So then I was laughed at. And then when they were actually performing that night and I was with Becky Moody watching them, everyone was coming up to me going, oh, they sound great, despite their limited practice time, Jenny. It's like, oh,
• 49:15
  Speaker B: that's hilarious. Well done, Jenny Moodle. Well done.
• 49:19
  Speaker A: Yeah. And now, like, so just. They keep popping up all over the place now. It keeps. Like you asked. Alexa, play a song. It's Lady A. I'm like, yes, thank you. Rub it in. Yeah. It's very embarrassing, but I had no idea. But then they started that song and I was like.
• 49:36
  Speaker B: And you're like, oh, no.
• 49:39
  Speaker A: Yeah. But they were very good, I tell you.
• 49:41
  Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I bet they were. I bet they were.
• 49:44
  Speaker A: Apparently as well. The venue paid an absolute fortune for them. And also the other guy I didn't know is the guy who sings. He was there. Who sings the One Tree Hill theme tune.
• 49:54
  Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker A: I Don't Wanna Wave For My Love to Be. Yeah, that one. He was there as well.
• 49:59
  Speaker B: No, that's. That's Dawson's Creek.
• 50:02
  Speaker A: Yeah. No, the other one. What's One Tree Hill? Oh, I know it.
• 50:08
  Speaker B: Can't remember, but yeah, that. The other one was Austin's Creek. I'm sure that was.
• 50:12
  Speaker A: Yes. No, I've got that wrong. Oh. Anyway, they all merge into one. But anyway. Yes. So that was my embarrassing. Well, not.
• 50:18
  Speaker B: Maybe because they're so amazing.
• 50:20
  Speaker A: God. Oh, it was so awkward. It was so awkward. But it's just the way that everyone was staring at me but yet nobody wanted to do it.
• 50:32
  Speaker B: Talking about fame, you're in the Telegraph.
• 50:35
  Speaker A: Yes. I'm kind of regretting it, though.
• 50:38
  Speaker B: Why?
• 50:39
  Speaker A: Because people are mean. People are being really mean.
• 50:42
  Speaker B: Are they?
• 50:43
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I got asked to do. I. Like, someone wrote it. They say that I wrote it, but I didn't write it. And they said, do you want to come on the Telegraph just talk about moving to Canada? And it's just a piece about us moving to Canada. And all the comments below it, there's millions of them, are just really horrible. It's just like loads of people saying that I'm a snob and slagging me off because I said I moved to Canada.
• 51:09
  Speaker B: Oh, my God.
• 51:09
  Speaker A: Really, like, really awful. And someone even wrote Delilah, question mark, questioning some of my daughter's name. So my mate Rhiannon's got on there and put the guy who wrote that was Richard. And my friend Rhiannon wrote underneath it going, richard, question mark. Or is it Dick?
• 51:30
  Speaker B: That's very good. Good comeback.
• 51:34
  Speaker A: I know. I thought that was excellent. But, yeah, people slagging off my children's names. Slagging off the Justin Trudeau. I'm like, I haven't even mentioned Justin Trudeau. And they made a mistake in the article saying that Seattle is an hour from where we live when it's three hours. Oh, my God. You'd have thought I'd have written that I kill children in my spare time. She's so stupid. How does she think that Seattle's an hour away. I mean, it's clearly a mistake, but probably about a hundred comments saying that I'm the stupidest person that's ever walked the earth.
• 52:07
  Speaker B: Wow.
• 52:08
  Speaker A: I know. Literally. And then other people slagging it off saying, I live in a logger's town and it's a shithole. I'm like, it was a loggers town 20 years ago. The average house price now is 2 million. And so, yeah, people saying how there's no culture here. I was like, well, I'm not here for the culture, I'm here for the outside. Yes. Just people being fouled. Someone saying it was written by AI and not believing that we see orcas from our house. Like, yeah, really awful. Really awful. Like, not some people saying, oh, it sounds lovely, have a nice life. But yeah, but a little bit of me just thinks you're the reason we left England. A lot of you people like, yeah, it's not nice. No, really awful. So I'm kind of regretting doing it just because people are so horrible.
• 53:01
  Speaker B: But yeah, that is horrible. But anyway, I thought it was really good.
• 53:04
  Speaker A: Oh, thank you very much. But yeah, only read it if you're gonna write nice things.
• 53:09
  Speaker B: Yeah, don't be mean. Yeah, right, Jenny, so now tell me. I need to go and play with puppies in a minute. Okay, so you need to tell me what's annoys you this week.
• 53:18
  Speaker A: No, you go first. I've been talking way too much this episode.
• 53:21
  Speaker B: No, you haven't. It's been great. Do you know we were talking about this before we came on. I don't know what's annoyed me this week.
• 53:30
  Speaker A: You do know, you're just too scared to say it.
• 53:32
  Speaker B: Yeah, well, there's a couple of things I definitely can't say that's annoyed me, but, yeah, it takes quite a lot to really annoy me.
• 53:41
  Speaker A: Does it?
• 53:44
  Speaker B: No, it does, it does. You go. Because you're really good at this.
• 53:49
  Speaker A: Why, because I'm an angry human?
• 53:51
  Speaker B: No, because you've just always got something that's just always annoying. Yeah, you're always annoyed with something. And the nice thing for you with this one is that you can literally just use me and Ben as something
• 54:05
  Speaker A: that's annoyed you as a rant. The. The telegraph thing annoyed me because I just don't understand why people want to be mean. Why? Why?
• 54:14
  Speaker B: Yeah, but it seems to be. It seems to the culture that we're in now.
• 54:18
  Speaker A: Yeah, my mum said to me, everyone has a right to their opinion, but I don't think you have a right to an opinion if it's a. At the detriment of someone else's. Like, I think if you have an opinion, you can say, well, my opinion is this. That's your opinion. My opinion is this. But I don't think you slag someone else off to then have your opinion. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think you're just being mean. I also think that some of it, because a lot of it is from people who have left Canada, I feel like some of it is them trying to justify their own actions. Yeah, but don't slag me off to do it.
• 54:55
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's so often there's like a bit of a kind of backstory to people's comments of like, you know, they. There's something that's gone on in their life that has made them be negative about this situation.
• 55:09
  Speaker A: One of the comments was, oh, you say you can't get any of this in England, but I live in Devon and it's empty beaches and coastal walks every day. I'm like, I'm from Devon. Very rarely in the summer can you find an empty beach. But also, we can't afford to live in Devon because the house prices are so much now. And secondly, where are we going to work? Where we need to work? You can't live by the coast, whereas in Canada we can live by the coast and by the mountains. So it's like, but don't slag off our choices because that's the choice you've made. And I love Devon, but it's not like. Yeah, and I get. They also slagged off that Canada's got no culture. And I get it's hard to find a museum here, but we go back to England and we'll go to the museums. Anyway, plastic has annoyed me.
• 55:57
  Speaker B: Why has plastic annoyed you?
• 55:59
  Speaker A: And I'm going to try and do something about it. So in America, every hotel I end up staying at when. Because I don't book it for work, I don't. I don't understand, Simon. Why do they not wash up in America? Why? Boys? Surely doing the dishes is more cost effective than buying millions of plates every
• 56:21
  Speaker B: breakfast and then throwing them away is
• 56:24
  Speaker A: plastic knives, plastic forks, plastic plates and it just goes in the bin. I don't. I can't get my tiny brain around it. And then at the World cup, the press office was lovely and we had three meals provided a day, which is very rare. Anyone thinking of getting into this industry, that is very rare. But every meal was throwaway cutlery and throw away plates. But not just the really cheap flimsy shit, like solid plates that were plastic. And I couldn't bear to do it. So I was taking mine into the bathroom and washing it up. I. And reusing it every day. And I take travel cutlery with me. Bamboo travel cutlery. But I was in the bathroom and this woman said to me, erm, is that yours that you're washing up? And I was like, oh, yes, I'm very embarrassing, but I'm just washing it up. I can't bear to throw it away three times a day, every day. She was like, I'm the catering director. Would you like. I know.
• 57:18
  Speaker B: Oh, wow. What did they say?
• 57:22
  Speaker A: She said, would you like me? She said, we often have eco conscious guests. Would you like me to get you a china plate?
• 57:31
  Speaker B: Oh, that's very sweet.
• 57:34
  Speaker A: So every meal they bought me out.
• 57:35
  Speaker B: I mean, it doesn't solve the problem, but it's very sweet.
• 57:38
  Speaker A: Well, but the problem was then I was the only person with a china plate. I got one for my videographer as well. In the whole of like 200 people in a press office,
• 57:50
  Speaker B: They're like, it's the posh English woman I know.
• 57:53
  Speaker A: Spot the band holding knob head who wants to tie the plate. But I was like, no, I'm gonna stick to my guns. Porso. The fridge is full every horse show, plastic bottles. And you get free plastic bottles of water by the in gate. Some of them are miniature. Surely if the FEI or British Venting or whatever federation just gave out to the press at the beginning of each thing, a reusable cup with branding on it or got someone to sponsor it, yeti or like the guy a friend of mine sponsored at the World cup and I said, if you had your branding on a cup that everybody was using from the press, get more bang for your buck. And he's like, yeah, I'd do that. Surely, if they gave everyone. Or if they said, it's five bucks for a reusable cup, you're getting your World cup memorabilia. And all around the stadium were water filling stations, filtered water filling stations. Surely that is more cost effective than filling a fridge full of hundreds of plastic bottles every day.
• 58:52
  Speaker B: Yeah, but.
• 58:52
  Speaker A: And I tried to speak to the press people, but no one wants to hear my ideas. Simon.
• 58:57
  Speaker B: Well, yeah, people don't like change.
• 59:00
  Speaker A: No. Anyway, so that's what's annoyed me. But I'm going to fight on. Everyone's gonna hate me, aren't they? I'm never gonna get work again.
• 59:08
  Speaker B: Well, no, I think it's. I think it's a good thing to be vocal about, do you?
• 59:15
  Speaker A: I do, no. But I just feel like I'm a bit in people's faces but I will battle on.
• 59:21
  Speaker B: So something that, it hasn't annoyed me as such, but like, I suppose I'm annoyed with myself that I didn't know the rules. But I, I was in, Please tell
• 59:31
  Speaker A: me this is in eventing.
• 59:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, in eventing. So I, I, it's your actual job. I was in the collecting ring and for the three star at Burnham market and I was cantering round and James rang me or my phone started ringing and it was James and I kind of pulled out my pocket as I was cantering around, I looked and I was like, it was James. And I hadn't spoken to James and James is really busy at the moment with like, he's lamming and he's just super, super busy. So like with Lammy, he's obviously like, he's leaving at like 4 in the morning every morning. So I don't really get to see him very much and to speak to him isn't as easy as normal. So like, so he was ringing, so I better quickly speak to him. So I answered and I was like, oh. And I was still cantering and I said, oh, Jim, I'm really sorry, but I'm just warming up for my show jumping. Is everything okay? And he was like, yeah, yeah, I was just ringing to catch up and I was like, I'll ring straight back as soon as I'm done. He was like, yeah, that's cool. So then I finished, went jumped around, came out and then the steward, she said, she said to me, oh, it's been reported to me that you were on your phone in the collecting ring. And I was like, oh, yes, yeah, I know, Yes, I was sorry. My boyfriend rang me, I haven't spoken, whatever. And she said, oh, it's a new rule, no phones. You're not allowed to do anything on your phone when you're on a horse at an FBI event. I didn't realize that. I didn't realise that was a new rule. Yeah, no, she was, she was very quick on it, but she was lovely with it. Like she was really nice with it and she's like, yeah, I know you weren't for very long, but don't do it. It's a new thing.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker A: So what's the fine if one I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker B: don't know, I mean, should I be sharing this? Jenny Rudolph? Is this gonna get me in trouble?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker A: No, I think it's gone. I think it's done now you got your ticking off. But it'd be good to find out, like, how many. If you're a serial offender, is there a consequence?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker B: Well, I don't know. I'm gonna have to look into it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker A: You are gonna have to look into it.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker B: All I know is that you're not allowed to be on your phone.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker A: But question. What if you had headphones in?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that I don't know because
• 1:01:36
  Speaker A: what is the dangerous bit? You holding the phone and looking down at it or.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker B: I did ask her about because I had a microphone on, because I talked my way through the warmup.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker A: To who? Just yourself.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker B: To the camera for my YouTube video ZAO the Burner Market Weekend. And. And I talk. I. It was, it was a bit vague. I didn't. I didn't do it as well as I was hoping to. But anyway, had a microphone on to talk through my warm up. But. And, and I saw. I asked permission to be able to do that and she said, yeah, that's fine as long as you take it off before you go in the ring. Because you're not allowed anything like that in the ring. So. Yeah, so that was allowed. I don't know where I was going with that. I can't remember.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker A: Oh, yes.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker B: And. And she. And she did say, you know, seeing as like earpieces are allowed and communication stuff is allowed when you're in the warm up for dressage, I really don't see why you can't do that in show jumping. So. But as long as it's out before you go in.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker A: But it's fei. Not be fei.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know whether be followed that on. Hopefully not.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker A: Ah, interesting. Well, there you go, people. I don't like people being on their phones on a horse. It drives me mad.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. It's not ideal.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker A: No. Right. I have to do a shout out to a lovely girl who has sent us lots of messages. We've had lots of emails, but I'm. I'm. We've. We're running out of time. But this says if her name is. Well, her email is Emily and Misty together, I'm assuming.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker B: Oh, cute.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker A: I know, right? She said. I don't know if you can read this out loud on the pod. Of course we can, Emily. But big shout out to my riding stables through trekking. T H R E T H E W through W through through house or
• 1:03:34
  Speaker B: T H R E T H E
• 1:03:36
  Speaker A: W. This is the worst shout out in history.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker B: It was a great name.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker A: It sounds Cornish.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker B: It does, doesn't it?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker A: Does anyway through Truther. Truther. I don't know how to say it. Anyway, it's helped her riding. She struggles with anxieties. Don't we all, my love? We all struggle with anxiety. So, Emily, thank you very much for writing in. It is lovely to hear from you. Hi, Emily. This is the world's worst shout out. I'm so sorry. And you're quite young apparently. She's only 13 so well done for listening.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker B: Thank you. Thanks for listening.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker A: Right, Simon Greave, I probably. Next time I speak to you on this will be.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker B: We'll be at Badminton on Thursday. On the Thursday night. Make sure you come and join us guys. It's gonna be a really, really cool evening. 5:30 till 6:30. Next is badminton Lake. It's late night shopping at Badminton that evening. So it is totally worth coming. We're gonna have an absolute blast. Gonna be brilliant. Gonna have Jenny Rudle all the way over from Canada and we're gonna have Ben Atkinson all the way down from Yorkshire who is a seriously busy man right now. So we're really lucky to have him there. It's gonna be fantastic. So come and join us.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker A: Wow. Very good. I might clip that out and use it as an advert.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's going to be great though. It's going to be great.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker A: It is. Right.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker B: And also I'm competing at Badminton so it's great that I'm there too.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker A: Kind of a big deal. I'm looking forward to the trot up outfit.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I don't know what I'm going to do with that. No idea.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker A: I think something very tight.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker B: I'd really like. I'd like to do something a bit different because everyone does the same thing.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker A: I've never seen a man in shorts.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker B: No, no, that's. That's a lie. I have seen someone in shorts doing it. Was he German? No, it wasn't in. He was in.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker A: Was he in like lederhosens or something?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker B: Lederhosens, that's it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker A: Yes, I remember that. Do you have good legs?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker B: Not especially.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker A: I. And don't the girls wear short shorts to distract from the horse?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker B: That has been said before, hasn't it? I'm not sure it's really true.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker A: I'm not sure it's true. I'm pretty sure that a lot of the judges aren't interested in the girl's legs.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker A: You might do better getting your legs out.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker A: Right. Any good trot up outfit suggestions, please send Simon's way What could we, I think, yeah, maybe a glittery suit.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker B: No, I, I, no, I, I just, I just like to, I kind of feel like I'd like to inbox Harry, Harry Styles and. Because he's like the kind of fashion guru, isn't he? And go for something really out there.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker A: Flares and a giant collar.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker B: But you might end up something, something like that. Something a bit different. Something a bit different, but cool.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker A: Yes. Okay.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker B: I love that. James, Like. Okay. Simon. Okay, you say so.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker A: All right. Okay. Well, good luck eventing this weekend. I love you, dear.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker B: Love you too. And love you all. Thanks for listening.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker A: Yes, thank you. Please, like, share. Follow all that shebang. Because the more people who listen, lots of people write to us and say they love this. Well, to keep going. Yeah. The more people have to love it. So if you want us to keep going, the more people that do it listen, the more we can do. So make sure you follow us, get our numbers up. And someone also said, can you come over to Northern Ireland? Yes. If you find us a venue and get lots of people to like and follow us, we can come to Northern Ireland.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker B: That'd be great. We'd love that.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker A: Right? Love you guys. Thank you. To Charleston and shut up and roll weed.