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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the
- 0:17Speaker 1: Naughty But Nice Show. I'm your host, Will Shooter. I'm
- 0:19Speaker 1: coming to you live from England. I'm here all week
- 0:22Speaker 1: visiting my mum, visiting some friends. We're going to the
- 0:25Speaker 1: Cotswolds tomorrow, so Harry and Meghan, if you're listening, hello, hello, hello.
- 0:29Speaker 1: We might bump into you. They like to go to
- 0:31Speaker 1: the Soho House, which I have friends who are members
- 0:35Speaker 1: of that establishment. So maybe, fingers crossed, I will let
- 0:39Speaker 1: you know. But let's jump into the show because I'm
- 0:42Speaker 1: in Britain. The only co-hosts today are you, Noughties. Who
- 0:46Speaker 1: could ask for anything more? So sing along, sit back.
- 0:49Speaker 1: For the next 15, 20 minutes, we've got all the
- 0:52Speaker 1: celebrity news. What time is it, my friends? It is,
- 0:56Speaker 1: let me hear you, it's tea time. Okay, big story
- 0:59Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Here in Britain... Harry
- 1:02Speaker 1: and Meghan are being accused of using Archie and Lilibet
- 1:06Speaker 1: to pull at heartstrings. Let me explain. So Prince Harry
- 1:09Speaker 1: and Meghan are facing fresh criticisms every single day. They've
- 1:13Speaker 1: only been back a couple of weeks and every day
- 1:15Speaker 1: there's another crisis, another circus, another drama. But this one
- 1:19Speaker 1: is putting Archie and Lilibet front and centre in the
- 1:23Speaker 1: public narrative. After revealing that security concerns... prompted them to
- 1:29Speaker 1: pull their two children out of their new school after
- 1:32Speaker 1: just two days. Meghan released a birthday photo. Actually, they
- 1:36Speaker 1: call it a photo dump, which is not the most
- 1:39Speaker 1: pleasant turn of phrase, is it? So we will call
- 1:42Speaker 1: it a group of photographs. I like to call it
- 1:45Speaker 1: a carousel of photographs, not a photo dump. This is
- 1:50Speaker 1: a carousel of photographs that Meghan has put out celebrating
- 1:54Speaker 1: her husband Harry's 42nd birthday. It's packed. with really beautiful,
- 1:59Speaker 1: wholesome family moments featuring mainly their children. Archie and Lilibets,
- 2:05Speaker 1: their faces remain hidden, but they're showing walking and painting
- 2:09Speaker 1: and wearing silly hats and riding through the English countryside.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Critics argue the timing is very striking. The Sussexes, who
- 2:18Speaker 1: are fiercely protective of their children's privacy, privacy we say
- 2:22Speaker 1: in America, privacy here in the UK, while increasingly... using
- 2:27Speaker 1: carefully controlled glimpses of family life to make an emotional
- 2:31Speaker 1: connection to the public. Now, in their defence, some are
- 2:35Speaker 1: arguing they are simply a family sharing normal moments. And
- 2:38Speaker 1: the intense scrutiny proves why they believe they need extra security.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Lots of things going on here. Let's break it down.
- 2:46Speaker 1: This is actually a very similar story that we did
- 2:49Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. Meghan posted images of her
- 2:52Speaker 1: kids in the UK celebrating their return. A few days later,
- 2:56Speaker 1: Harry's birthday, and she's done the same again. Beautiful pictures
- 2:59Speaker 1: of the children, of their lives. Some people are saying
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's just hypocritical. You can't have it both ways. You
- 3:06Speaker 1: can't beg, scream, demand privacy. And then you're the only
- 3:09Speaker 1: one posting pictures of the kids also, too. These pictures
- 3:13Speaker 1: are very telling. Lots of photographers, lots of editors, people, journalists, reporters...
- 3:19Speaker 1: sleuths here in Britain have been able to locate the
- 3:23Speaker 1: house from the pictures. There's some very distinctive, distinctive landmarks,
- 3:28Speaker 1: markings in the photographs, which has made it much easier
- 3:31Speaker 1: to actually identify exactly where they are. So maybe if
- 3:36Speaker 1: you want privacy, maybe putting pictures up in your area,
- 3:40Speaker 1: in your garden, around where you live might not be
- 3:43Speaker 1: the best idea. But that's where the real problem is
- 3:46Speaker 1: with Harry and Meghan and their return to the UK.
- 3:49Speaker 1: They haven't thought it through. To put your kids into
- 3:52Speaker 1: school and to pull them out after two days because
- 3:54Speaker 1: of security concerns is really, really shocking. They have a
- 3:59Speaker 1: security team. They do have protection, let's be clear. They
- 4:03Speaker 1: have a security guard who travels with them. They have
- 4:06Speaker 1: a team that they pay for. The same with Taylor Swift,
- 4:10Speaker 1: with Madonna. When the president comes to the UK too,
- 4:13Speaker 1: they bring secret service. And so they are paying for
- 4:16Speaker 1: their own security team. Their security team, though, I think
- 4:19Speaker 1: they need a new one. What security team, even bad security,
- 4:24Speaker 1: would have known that this school is not going to
- 4:27Speaker 1: be as safe as they want during the commute? So
- 4:32Speaker 1: apparently the security team went to the school and said
- 4:35Speaker 1: the school is fine. It's a very secure school. Their
- 4:38Speaker 1: problem was the route to the school, was the commute,
- 4:42Speaker 1: getting the kids to the school and back each day.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Didn't they know this? Isn't that obvious? Every celebrity I've
- 4:49Speaker 1: worked with who had security, and most of them did,
- 4:52Speaker 1: they all did advance work. If I was going with
- 4:54Speaker 1: Alicia Keys to the Grammys, her security team did a
- 4:58Speaker 1: trip to the Grammys and knew the traffic and knew
- 5:00Speaker 1: the roads. When I worked with Jennifer Lopez, her security
- 5:04Speaker 1: team knew the ways to get around. It wasn't left
- 5:08Speaker 1: by chance, roads are roads. You know which street you're
- 5:11Speaker 1: going to go down. You know which traffic light you're
- 5:13Speaker 1: going to turn left or right at. Why wasn't this
- 5:16Speaker 1: advance work done? Also, too, I did have to chuckle.
- 5:19Speaker 1: They are complaining about traffic. They said the traffic is
- 5:22Speaker 1: too dense. This is a notoriously heavy traffic part of
- 5:28Speaker 1: the UK. It's like going to the Hamptons in America,
- 5:32Speaker 1: in New York on the weekends. The traffic is outrageous.
- 5:36Speaker 1: The same with the Cotswolds, which is really the Hamptons
- 5:41Speaker 1: of the UK. So traffic is awful. No surprise there
- 5:44Speaker 1: if they'd asked any local, anybody that lived there, how
- 5:47Speaker 1: bad's traffic during school hours? They'd say, oh, it's rough.
- 5:49Speaker 1: You're going to have to sit in your car a while. Now,
- 5:52Speaker 1: the part of this too that is bugging people is
- 5:55Speaker 1: that Kate Middleton does take her kids to school. Now
- 5:58Speaker 1: we know that Prince George is at Eton. And so
- 6:02Speaker 1: he is at a boarding school now. So he's not
- 6:04Speaker 1: going back and forth. But when he was... Kate often
- 6:07Speaker 1: drove them. She was in the driver's seat. There's lots
- 6:09Speaker 1: of photographs, actually, of Kate stuck in traffic. They have
- 6:13Speaker 1: a security car in front. They have one behind. There's
- 6:16Speaker 1: also might be some private security, undercover security that we
- 6:20Speaker 1: don't know about. But this is what Kate does. So
- 6:24Speaker 1: what is really going on here? I have a new
- 6:26Speaker 1: story out today on Substack. And the real reason I'm
- 6:29Speaker 1: told is that the real reason this school didn't work
- 6:32Speaker 1: is they weren't given special treatment. They keep saying they
- 6:35Speaker 1: want to be want to really be treated like everybody
- 6:38Speaker 1: else but when you do that to the Duke and
- 6:40Speaker 1: Duchess of Sussex they don't like it so they wanted
- 6:44Speaker 1: really special treatment they wanted escort commuting the kids to
- 6:48Speaker 1: school and back they wanted special treatment within this area
- 6:53Speaker 1: they do not consider themselves private citizens they are public
- 6:56Speaker 1: figures Harry has made it very very clear that he
- 6:59Speaker 1: is a Prince of England when he was asked what
- 7:01Speaker 1: does he do for a living remember he was on
- 7:03Speaker 1: a talk show a TV show and he was asked,
- 7:06Speaker 1: what's your job? And he said, I'm a Prince of England.
- 7:09Speaker 1: That's important to him. If you ask a pop star
- 7:13Speaker 1: what's on their passport, most of them have pop stars
- 7:16Speaker 1: or musicians. It tells you who they are. If it
- 7:18Speaker 1: has a musician, then the music really matters to them.
- 7:21Speaker 1: If they say a pop star, then the stardom really
- 7:23Speaker 1: matters to them. So this tells us a lot about Harry.
- 7:26Speaker 1: He's a Prince of England and he expects, he demands
- 7:29Speaker 1: to be treated as such. He wants special treatment. But
- 7:33Speaker 1: yet they claim they don't want special treatment. And now
- 7:37Speaker 1: happy birthday to Harry. This is a mess over here.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I'm so glad I'm on the ground. I'm so glad
- 7:43Speaker 1: I'm in the country where they are. Tensions are higher
- 7:46Speaker 1: than ever. Nothing has been resolved. There is no remedy here.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I'm told that William and Catherine did not even wish
- 7:55Speaker 1: him a happy birthday. Nobody did it publicly. The royal
- 7:58Speaker 1: family only acknowledges working royals. That's their rules. Although could
- 8:03Speaker 1: change it if they want to they don't want to
- 8:05Speaker 1: privately though i'm told the king did reach out to
- 8:08Speaker 1: his son harry and wish him a happy birthday his
- 8:11Speaker 1: brother william and catherine did not which brings us to
- 8:14Speaker 1: our poll question of the day harry and megan have
- 8:17Speaker 1: been accused of using that's a real serious strong word
- 8:21Speaker 1: isn't it using archie and lillibut to pull at heartstrings.
- 8:25Speaker 1: They're putting them in photographs. Happy Birthday Harry doesn't necessarily
- 8:29Speaker 1: need a photograph of Archie and Lilibet. They're being accused
- 8:34Speaker 1: of using their children. What do you think? Are they?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Are they using their kids? Ooh, that's a tough one today. Hey,
- 8:41Speaker 1: go vote on our X page, our Twitter page. A
- 8:44Speaker 1: naughty nice romp. Our Facebook page is Naughty Gossip. And
- 8:48Speaker 1: be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results.
- 8:52Speaker 1: moving along, Kelly Osbourne has permanently, permanently, that's a big word,
- 8:57Speaker 1: permanently cut ties with her sister, Amy, saying she was
- 9:01Speaker 1: embarrassed of us. So Kelly is once again doing another interview.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I'm not sure why chatty Kelly Osbourne is doing all
- 9:08Speaker 1: these interviews. She doesn't have a movie out or an
- 9:10Speaker 1: album out. Why does she keep doing interviews? She wants to.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And so she's talking away and she's revealed now that
- 9:17Speaker 1: she is permanently, has permanently cut ties with with her
- 9:20Speaker 1: older sister, Amy, admitting they are polar opposites. I'm very
- 9:25Speaker 1: opposite from my three oldest brothers and sisters. I'm very
- 9:27Speaker 1: close with Christine. The other three, not so much. In fact,
- 9:30Speaker 1: really not at all, if the truth be told. We're very,
- 9:33Speaker 1: very different people, but we've not cut ties. We have
- 9:36Speaker 1: definitely not permanently cut ties. We're not in touch all
- 9:40Speaker 1: the time, but I think it's another step to actually
- 9:42Speaker 1: say it's over. Kelly says that Amy never acknowledged her brother,
- 9:48Speaker 1: Or her, Jack, growing up and believes her sister has
- 9:52Speaker 1: been embarrassed by the famous family. She said, quote, she
- 9:56Speaker 1: was just in her own world doing her own thing. Fine.
- 10:00Speaker 1: let her. What's the problem? Let her do her own thing.
- 10:02Speaker 1: You don't need to end everything. Now, she claims that
- 10:08Speaker 1: this is very painful to her, but it has confirmed
- 10:11Speaker 1: the long rumoured estrangements and it's simply not a temporary
- 10:14Speaker 1: family feud. So this relationship, as far as Kelly is concerned,
- 10:18Speaker 1: is over for good. Tricky, isn't it? Families are difficult.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Families are also wonderful, but they can also be very,
- 10:27Speaker 1: very complicated. We all have it, don't we? And there's
- 10:30Speaker 1: no shame in that. I'm really, really close with my mum.
- 10:33Speaker 1: I'm really close with my sister, Christine. The other three,
- 10:37Speaker 1: not so much. We're not at war. We're not permanently
- 10:41Speaker 1: cut from each other's lives, but we don't hang out.
- 10:44Speaker 1: We don't text. We're fine. They don't want to talk
- 10:46Speaker 1: to me that much either, so Don't think this is
- 10:48Speaker 1: a one-way street. So I think Amy and Kelly never
- 10:51Speaker 1: saw eye to eye. I think they stayed somewhat civil
- 10:55Speaker 1: because that is the nice thing to do. It's actually
- 10:57Speaker 1: the smart thing to do. Their mum, Sharon, too, wanted
- 11:01Speaker 1: them to be friends. But now that Ozzy is gone,
- 11:03Speaker 1: it takes a death, doesn't it? It takes a moment,
- 11:07Speaker 1: a big moment, when people reassess what family means to them.
- 11:11Speaker 1: And Kelly has said, Amy, her sister, is permanently gone. Oof.
- 11:17Speaker 1: The DEA, this is serious, the DEA is investigating Hayden
- 11:22Speaker 1: Panettiere's slew of drug-related texts after her death. The DEA
- 11:29Speaker 1: is investigating years of text messages between Hayden and her
- 11:34Speaker 1: alleged drug dealer following the actress's death. A source told TMZ, quote,
- 11:40Speaker 1: there are a slew of messages about drugs, very specific
- 11:46Speaker 1: about purchasing drugs. black market pills. Investigators believe that Hayden,
- 11:51Speaker 1: who was only 36, died August 16th after consuming one,
- 11:57Speaker 1: just one, oxycodone pill that was laced with fentanyl. The
- 12:02Speaker 1: DEA is now waiting, awaiting toxicology results before determining its
- 12:08Speaker 1: next move. She was found unresponsive in a South Carolina
- 12:12Speaker 1: Airbnb while attempts to revive her were unsuccessful. Lots of
- 12:19Speaker 1: celebrities now, lots of people, not just famous people, their
- 12:23Speaker 1: phones reveal everything. Everything. My friends, my sources in law enforcement,
- 12:30Speaker 1: say that they want your phone immediately. After something bad happens,
- 12:34Speaker 1: your phone reveals so, so much. Not only your location,
- 12:39Speaker 1: but also your text messages, your emails. And people do
- 12:44Speaker 1: get sloppy. You would think that if you were ordering
- 12:47Speaker 1: some drugs, something illegal, you wouldn't want to put that
- 12:49Speaker 1: in writing, would you? You would call. I'm told that
- 12:52Speaker 1: very rarely happens. They text and they have code words.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Partying is a code word. Do you want to party?
- 13:00Speaker 1: That means drugs. Do you want to go skiing? That's
- 13:04Speaker 1: a code word for cocaine. If you say, let's go skiing,
- 13:08Speaker 1: that's a code word. The police know these words. And
- 13:12Speaker 1: Hayden didn't just take one pill in South Carolina. She
- 13:15Speaker 1: has suffered. She has struggled with substance abuse for a very, very,
- 13:20Speaker 1: very long time. She said she was fine. Now, clearly,
- 13:23Speaker 1: clearly that was not true. But she has struggled so
- 13:26Speaker 1: they can go back years. And if they know the
- 13:30Speaker 1: alleged drug dealer, they can trace those calls back for many, many, many,
- 13:35Speaker 1: not just months, but for years and find out exactly
- 13:39Speaker 1: what that relationship was. How many times they used the dealer.
- 13:45Speaker 1: How many times they called drugs. How responsive they were
- 13:49Speaker 1: to getting drugs. What type of drugs was she using?
- 13:52Speaker 1: Was she ordering the phones now? I told you first,
- 13:55Speaker 1: we broke the news first here on the Naughty But
- 13:58Speaker 1: Nice podcast. Their phones were seized immediately. Okay, fans are
- 14:04Speaker 1: shocked after Travis Kelsey slapped away a fan who tried
- 14:09Speaker 1: to steal his glove. It was on his wrist at
- 14:11Speaker 1: the time. So Travis was forced to play defensive before
- 14:15Speaker 1: the game even started. Look at me, my sports metaphors.
- 14:18Speaker 1: The cheap star looks stunned. After an overzealous fan. Grabbed
- 14:24Speaker 1: his glove. As he headed off the field. Before Monday's
- 14:29Speaker 1: season opener. Against the Denver Broncos. And so video shows.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Travis reaching up to greet a fan. He got really excited.
- 14:37Speaker 1: This fan did. And one spectator. suddenly yanked at his glove.
- 14:41Speaker 1: They wanted a memorabilia. They wanted a prize. Well, Travis
- 14:45Speaker 1: did not like that and he slapped the person's hand
- 14:47Speaker 1: away immediately and he appeared to scold them. Now, the
- 14:51Speaker 1: awkward moment did not ruin the night. Travis and the
- 14:54Speaker 1: Chiefs went on to crush Denver 31 to 10 with
- 14:57Speaker 1: his wife, Taylor Swift, cheering in the stands. We have
- 15:01Speaker 1: to remember, celebrities are people too. You get overwhelmed, you
- 15:05Speaker 1: get excited when you see somebody who is famous. Remember,
- 15:09Speaker 1: manners are manners, politeness is politeness, and trying to steal
- 15:13Speaker 1: somebody's private property, whether it be a glove or anything else,
- 15:18Speaker 1: is just not the way to behave. Okay, we're going
- 15:21Speaker 1: to take a quick break, and we will be right back.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Naughty But Nicer And Your Hair Is...
- 15:30Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, hey, let's get to the polls. Last year
- 15:35Speaker 1: we talked about Harry and Meghan pulling Archie and Lilibet
- 15:38Speaker 1: from their school after just two days over security fears.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Are they using this moment? Are they using the kids
- 15:45Speaker 1: to get taxpayer security? That's what a lot of people
- 15:47Speaker 1: think this is about here. The kids were in school
- 15:50Speaker 1: for two days, dramatically dragged out of that school where
- 15:55Speaker 1: they were meeting new people, dragged out after two days
- 15:58Speaker 1: because of security fears, not about the school, but about
- 16:01Speaker 1: the commute. Is this all about getting back the taxpayer
- 16:06Speaker 1: security that Harry has been fighting for? We have an update. Now,
- 16:10Speaker 1: Meghan is having her security reviewed too. She wants taxpayer
- 16:15Speaker 1: security as well. What do you think? Are they using
- 16:19Speaker 1: this situation, the kids, to get taxpayer security? 85% said yes. Hey,
- 16:26Speaker 1: don't forget to vote on today's poll. Go to our
- 16:30Speaker 1: X page, our Twitter page, our naughty nice Rob, or
- 16:33Speaker 1: our Facebook page, which is Naughty Gossip, and be sure
- 16:37Speaker 1: to check back tomorrow to hear your results. And now
- 16:42Speaker 1: it's time for our noisiest of the day. And nicest
- 16:48Speaker 1: of the day is Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise. Weird combination.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I just love it. So a lip reader has revealed
- 16:56Speaker 1: what Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise were talking about at
- 16:59Speaker 1: the Chiefs game. So a moment ago, we told you
- 17:01Speaker 1: about that game. Well, guess who Taylor was sitting with?
- 17:04Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. They were spotted deep in conversation while chewing
- 17:09Speaker 1: on Travis and the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday night.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Now a professional lip reader claims they know what they
- 17:17Speaker 1: were discussing. Swift Taylor was reportedly talking enthusiastically about the
- 17:23Speaker 1: atmosphere inside Arrowhead Stadium, appearing to tell Tom how much
- 17:29Speaker 1: she loved the crowd and its energy. Now, Tom's response
- 17:33Speaker 1: was harder to decipher, but the expert believes Tom told Taylor, quote,
- 17:40Speaker 1: you may not know it, but you have a day job.
- 17:44Speaker 1: saying she should probably be used to all this energy,
- 17:47Speaker 1: these big crowds, because she does something very extraordinary for
- 17:51Speaker 1: a living too. I love these two chitter-chattering in the
- 17:55Speaker 1: stands together. And nicest of the day. And now our
- 18:00Speaker 1: naughtiest of the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty. Nick Reiner appeared numb.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Nick Reiner appeared numb in court as he faces charges
- 18:11Speaker 1: in his parents' murder. Nick appeared to be numb, some
- 18:15Speaker 1: said eerily calm, in a Los Angeles Superior Court Tuesday
- 18:20Speaker 1: as he faces charges in the December 2025 murders of
- 18:25Speaker 1: his parents. Wow, it's nearly been a year. Rob and
- 18:28Speaker 1: Michelle Reiner. The 33-year-old sat handcuffed, besides now a public defender,
- 18:34Speaker 1: Kimberly Green, wearing a brown prison uniform. He had a
- 18:38Speaker 1: facial stubble and noticeably longer hair. Nick remains largely emotionless
- 18:44Speaker 1: throughout the hearing, a striking contrast to the gravity of
- 18:48Speaker 1: the case against him. The accused killer recently spent his
- 18:53Speaker 1: first birthday behind bars as the high-profile murder case continues.
- 19:00Speaker 1: This whole, whole story still, still so heartbreaking, still so raw. Hey,
- 19:06Speaker 1: let's end with a moment of Rob. You get a Rob,
- 19:08Speaker 1: you get a Rob, you get a Rob. For 15,
- 19:10Speaker 1: 20 minutes, we love giving you all the celebrity gossip,
- 19:12Speaker 1: all the celebrity news. But for a moment, we're a
- 19:14Speaker 1: little bit more deep. They always come back when better
- 19:18Speaker 1: disappoints them. People have a funny way of returning. After
- 19:22Speaker 1: the people they thought were better than you disappoint them.
- 19:25Speaker 1: But someone coming back doesn't automatically deserve another seat at
- 19:30Speaker 1: your table. Sometimes people return. Because they finally realise your worth.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Other times, they're simply disappointed with your replacement. Know the difference.
- 19:42Speaker 1: You can forgive without reopening the door. Being missed, it's flattering.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Being valued, that's it. much better. And that is it
- 19:52Speaker 1: for today from my mum's house. Thank you so much
- 19:56Speaker 1: for listening to the Naughty But Nice with Rob and Nortisha.
- 19:59Speaker 1: You're the co-host today. We're a production of Elvis Duran
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- 20:23Speaker 1: What is going on with the royal family? We have
- 20:25Speaker 1: a new monarch and it's not who you think it
- 20:28Speaker 1: should be. And remember all together now, let me hear
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