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Why All Those Islamic Migrants Flooded into Spain · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Greb a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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  Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review.
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  Speaker 1: Free Martini's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: So glad you're with us for the Monday edition of
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  Speaker 2: The Three Martini Lunch. A lot to get to today,
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  Speaker 2: some really really good news in our chaser, we'll also
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  Speaker 2: be talking about the latest insanity in the Wisconsin governor's race,
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  Speaker 2: a really ugly story in Ohio Republican politics. But first
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  Speaker 2: we're kind of getting a better grip on what happened
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  Speaker 2: last week with this invasion as it seemed, into these
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  Speaker 2: sovereign territories of Spain that are still on the North
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  Speaker 2: African coast. So this wave of some say as many
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  Speaker 2: as sixty thousand illegal migrants coming into these cities of
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  Speaker 2: Quita and Malia, and again this is on the Moroccan
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  Speaker 2: side of the Mediterranean, but its sovereign Spanish territory. Dozens
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  Speaker 2: of people killed in this whole situation, very chaotic. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like most of them are being removed. Jim, you've
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  Speaker 2: looked into this. One of the common arguments here is
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  Speaker 2: that Spain has been terrible in immigration policy. They recently
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  Speaker 2: allowed a massive amnesty, and as we always know, when
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  Speaker 2: you allow amnesty, you get a lot more illegal immigration.
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  Speaker 2: But there are some more layers to this, including the
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  Speaker 2: big country that's all around these sovereign Spanish territories and
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  Speaker 2: how this plays in here. So what'd you find out?
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  Speaker 1: Sure? So you know, was amnesty a factor in this?
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  Speaker 1: Almost certainly. But it's worth noting that the Pedro Sanchez
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  Speaker 1: Socialist government in Spain announced it was going to offer
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  Speaker 1: an amnesty back in February. They expected about a half
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  Speaker 1: million immigrants who were in Spain. I think you had
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  Speaker 1: to be in Spain by the end of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: If you came over in twenty twenty six, they were
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  Speaker 1: not going to offer it to you, but they expected
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  Speaker 1: a half million people to apply for the amnesty. One
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  Speaker 1: point three million applied, which is a sign that a
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  Speaker 1: your illegal immigration problem is worse than you think it is,
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  Speaker 1: and b when you create that, you also create this
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  Speaker 1: incentive to go over. But then again, that's all happening
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  Speaker 1: in Spain. It's all happening in February into spring. So
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  Speaker 1: the question now is why did this happen this past
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  Speaker 1: weekend or I guess kind of the tail end of
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  Speaker 1: late last week. Well what it was kind of not
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  Speaker 1: noticed nearly as much, was two weeks ago, July twentieth,
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  Speaker 1: Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez visited Algeria, which is next
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  Speaker 1: to Morocco in North Africa, and you know it goes
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  Speaker 1: there is the first time he'd visited in four years.
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  Speaker 1: This has kind of seen as a major step towards
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  Speaker 1: re establishing stronger relationships with the Algerian says quote. Spain
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  Speaker 1: views Algeria not only as a neighboring country, but also
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  Speaker 1: as a strategic partner. But I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people did not realize or you know, it's because it's
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  Speaker 1: not typically covered that much in US media. Morocco and
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  Speaker 1: Algeria hate each other. They have been strong rivals for many,
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  Speaker 1: many years, going back decades. Each one kind of wants
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  Speaker 1: to be the top dog in Northwest Africa. They have
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  Speaker 1: not had an open border between the two countries since
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, they've cut diplomatic relations since twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: They're even in an arms race with each other. So
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  Speaker 1: Spain reaching out to Algeria is seen as a very
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  Speaker 1: big deal by Morocco and Morocco and Spain already you
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  Speaker 1: don't have the most warm and fuzzy relationships, sometimes over
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  Speaker 1: this border, sometimes over migrants, but just general, you know
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  Speaker 1: the fact of you know, this a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: troubled history for those who know they're you know, European history,
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  Speaker 1: the Crusades, the Reconquista, all that kind of stuff, the
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  Speaker 1: conquest of Spain, the wars, all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So you add all this up. Look, it is the
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  Speaker 1: other thing is these accounts from not just you know,
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  Speaker 1: right of center publications, but the New York Times talk
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  Speaker 1: to these migrants, and the migrants said that the don
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  Speaker 1: on lewis that the rumor mill saying, oh, the borders open,
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  Speaker 1: you can go whenever you want. The Moroccan police we're
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  Speaker 1: urging people to go to Spain. Now, in Morocco, things
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  Speaker 1: do not just happen randomly. They don't suddenly say hey, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: let's encourage tens of thousands of people to go across
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  Speaker 1: over into Spain for no particular reason. This clearly was
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  Speaker 1: a government policy. This was a decision on the part
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  Speaker 1: of the Moroccan government. So as bad as this this is,
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  Speaker 1: I suspect is the Moroccan government saying to Spain, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you want to be buddies with Algeria, just remember, we
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  Speaker 1: can make your life miserable anytime we want. We could
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  Speaker 1: diet it to tens of thousands of people can rush
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  Speaker 1: into Queta of you know, we put them onto boats.
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  Speaker 1: We try to get them onto your shores. We can
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  Speaker 1: make your life miserable by encouraging people to go to
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  Speaker 1: your territory anytime you want. So you think about that
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  Speaker 1: before you decide to improve your relationship with Algeria. So,
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  Speaker 1: on the one hand, this is bad news for listeners.
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  Speaker 1: I sent this to Greg with the we label our
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  Speaker 1: Martinez good, bad, and crazy. I said, this one was multifaceted.
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  Speaker 1: You're not easy to classify this one. The good news
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  Speaker 1: is that if you know, if the US or the
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  Speaker 1: European Union or Spain wanted to pressure Morocco to say
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  Speaker 1: don't do this anymore, there are there are tools. I
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  Speaker 1: also should give a shout out to my colleague Andrew Stutterford,
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  Speaker 1: who noticed that the National Security, Department of State and
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  Speaker 1: Related Programs Appropriations Act of twenty twenty seven, which is
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  Speaker 1: our appropriations bill for next year, passed the House nearly
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  Speaker 1: unanimously says quote. The Committee notes that these Spanish administered
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  Speaker 1: cities of Quetta and Melilla are are located in Moroccan
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  Speaker 1: territory and remain the subject of Morocco's long standing claim.
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  Speaker 1: The bill also says the Committee supports efforts by the
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of State to encourage diplomatic engagement between Morocco and
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  Speaker 1: Spain on the future status of Queta and Milia. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, like, Spain is not going to give these
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  Speaker 1: territories back in any stretch of magic. They are Spanish territory,
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  Speaker 1: no ifs, answer, butts, no disputes. Morocco can claim them,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't make them a Spanish territory anymore than
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  Speaker 1: Argentina saying the Falton Islands are our territory doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: them British territory. People kind of look at this and say,
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  Speaker 1: how did this end up in Appropriations Bill? Why are
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  Speaker 1: we in telling that, oh, we kind of recognize or
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  Speaker 1: kind of encouraging Spain to make concessions to Morocco. My
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  Speaker 1: theory is that this is some sort of like way
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  Speaker 1: of jabbing at Spain for its lack of contributions to NATO, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, as I rot in today's Jill, it's
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  Speaker 1: not quite as bad as you might have heard. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so you just look at this. If the US wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get involved, and it may not. Then again, there's
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  Speaker 1: an awful lot of interest about this topic here in
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  Speaker 1: the United States. I notice we could do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: lean on the Moroccan government and say, hey, don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: That's bad. You keep sending lot waves of refugees into Europe.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, have responses to our foreign aid
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. But so anyway, that's what I
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  Speaker 1: think was going on. Is this, you know, is this
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  Speaker 1: letting Sanchez off the hook for amnesty? No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Does this mean that, you know, we should not have
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  Speaker 1: a secure border here in the United States. No, not
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  Speaker 1: saying that at all. I'm just saying this was a
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  Speaker 1: power play by the Moroccan government aiming to send a
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  Speaker 1: signal to the Spanish government.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe Morocco is also a party to the
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  Speaker 2: Abraham Accords. So Trump's on relatively good terms with Morocco.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you throw in the frustrations with Spain
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  Speaker 2: over NATO and Iran and that sort of thing, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that Trump wants to see this because you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's fought against the same thing happening to his own country,
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  Speaker 2: which are also I would argue, very organized political movements.
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  Speaker 2: The second Joe Biden was elected. As soon as he
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  Speaker 2: got into office, you know, the numbers just started swelling
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  Speaker 2: and so but I think it is also timely for
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  Speaker 2: Republicans potentially this year. You know, we've talked many times
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  Speaker 2: about how, oh well, the problem with the border itself
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  Speaker 2: is argely contained at this point, and so people's minds
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  Speaker 2: move on to other things. Well, when they see it
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  Speaker 2: happening in other countries, these flashbacks come back of hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of people coming over the border a month.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it becomes a midterm campaign issue. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Kitchen table issues seem to be dominating right now, but
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  Speaker 2: when you see that in the news, you're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, am I crazy? Or does it feel like this one?
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  Speaker 1: For obvious reasons, you know, the US does not usually
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of coverage of Spanish Moroccan relations. Now
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  Speaker 1: this went from you know, obviously these are remarkably dramatic
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  Speaker 1: photos of tens of thousands of people trying to get
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  Speaker 1: across this, you know, fenced border on a beach. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that this became big news. But here
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  Speaker 1: we are talking, you and I are talking Monday morning.
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  Speaker 1: People will be hearing this Monday midday afternoon. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's already fading out of the news cycle. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just very interesting how the coverage of this got
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  Speaker 1: turned on and then the coverage of this got turned
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  Speaker 1: off with very little understanding of the issues going on
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: As Russia INBA used to call it the drive by media,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of it's because they are kicking the
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  Speaker 2: people out. They're not getting to stay in that sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing.
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  Speaker 1: The issue is resolving itself on some level, but the
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  Speaker 1: basic problem has not been resolved.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, not in the slightest, just as it is
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to legal immigration on our own continent.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see how this continues to play out. But definitely,
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  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, some underlying factors there that did not
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of attention. The pictures pretty much dominated
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  Speaker 2: there are more states where people are googling, Hey, when's
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  Speaker 2: the last chance to get someone off the ballot. We
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  Speaker 2: saw it in Maine. We're seeing it in Ohio's seventh district.
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  Speaker 2: in Ohio seventh District. Usually reliably read, but he is
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  Speaker 2: They have a two year old daughter and oh, by
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  Speaker 2: Bernie Moreno. If this story didn't have enough tentacles to it,
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  Speaker 2: against Max Miller, who is the Republican congressman in that district,
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  Speaker 2: and talking about different reasons why this restraining order is needed.
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  Speaker 2: There have been allegations and divorce filings and so forth
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  Speaker 2: about boiling water. Another disturbing one is that he's supposedly
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  Speaker 2: responsible for the broken collarbone of the two year old child.
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  Speaker 2: Max Miller yesterday went on Live on x for close
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  Speaker 2: to twenty minutes trying to dispute every allegation piece by Pece.
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  Speaker 2: He says he's got, you know, court ordered people who
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  Speaker 2: came down on his side, and he's not responsible for
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  Speaker 2: the child's injury or any injury to his ex wife,
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  Speaker 2: and he actually got the initial restraining order. It's just ugly, ugly,
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  Speaker 2: ugly ugly. But the way he did it didn't come
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  Speaker 2: across as particularly convincing to a lot of people. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things he kept saying all along is, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I've got evidence on this in the packet I've got
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  Speaker 2: evidence on this in the packet, and one of those
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  Speaker 2: things was about the boiling water. He claims he just
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  Speaker 2: playfully sprayed the kitchen sink extender on his wife and
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  Speaker 2: that she thought was playful at the time. But in
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  Speaker 2: this packet there's the audio of their conversation after that.
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  Speaker 1: It never was done to hurt you.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that you were weaponizing this because of
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  Speaker 3: our previous alligation, and you knew it was you wanted
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  Speaker 3: to when I was crying, So I didn't need.
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  Speaker 1: To hurt you. I didn't need to hurt you.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you scared me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't mean to hurt you. It wasn't done
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  Speaker 4: with intent. You just said it yourself. You literally just
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  Speaker 4: said it yourself. It wasn't done to hurt you. And
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  Speaker 4: I told you before that not to come over to
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  Speaker 4: me and start screwing around with me.
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  Speaker 3: It was Emily.
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  Speaker 1: You are taking it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're taking a playful incident and making something
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  Speaker 4: the fairious of Emily going out of the faucet. It
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  Speaker 4: does not get to a temperature of boiling water. It
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  Speaker 4: does not put it on at home. And I did it,
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  Speaker 4: and I tested it, and I had our attorneys tested
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  Speaker 4: because I figured that this is what you were going
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  Speaker 4: to come at me with, and it's literally, well, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: but literally it's like standing under a hot shower.
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  Speaker 3: And we already have someone.
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  Speaker 4: To go ahead and combat this if this is what
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  Speaker 4: you're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Do, and so Jim Bernie Moreno Center. Moreno has largely
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  Speaker 2: not commented on this, but he did at length yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on x after this video. He said, out of concern
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  Speaker 2: for the safety of my family, I hope to keep
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  Speaker 2: this matter private, but Max Miller's increasingly erratic and dangerous
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  Speaker 2: behavior has made that impossible. He said. It's been horrific
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  Speaker 2: to watch this all play out in public view while
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  Speaker 2: knowing an innocent two year old girl is caught in
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  Speaker 2: the middle. He says, as he's admitted privately, Max Miller
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  Speaker 2: needs serious psychological help, which Miller says his ex wife needs.
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  Speaker 2: Moreno says Miller is a danger to my daughter and
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  Speaker 2: I hold my breath every minute he has custody of
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  Speaker 2: my granddaughter. If there are any basic standards of character
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  Speaker 2: required to hold elected office, Max Miller fails, then he
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  Speaker 2: should not serve in the House of Representatives. I believe
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  Speaker 2: he needs to seek professional help to end the clear
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  Speaker 2: pattern of abuse he's left in his wake. And then
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  Speaker 2: there are at least rumors online that both Miller and
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  Speaker 2: Mareno have dirt on each other about extra marital activity. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this couldn't get more sordid right now. I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of people are pushing Mike Johnson and
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  Speaker 2: other people Trump as well to shove Max Miller on
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  Speaker 2: this race in the next forty eight hours, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So look, when it comes to evaluating allegations of misbehavior,
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  Speaker 1: we can find a situation where it's he said, she said.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the first questions you can say is
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  Speaker 1: are the two people in the same place at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, right? And Christine blazey Ford could never prove
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  Speaker 1: that against Brett Kavanaugh, which was a glaring problem with
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  Speaker 1: verifying her testimony. You know, we know that Max Miller
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  Speaker 1: has been married to this one for the beast couple
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  Speaker 1: of years, so now we know he've been in the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of place. Now the question is what happened
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  Speaker 1: between them. Bernie Moreno has held his tongue on this
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: would say too long, and you know, undoubtedly you want
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  Speaker 1: to give a couple of privacy to work out. You'd
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  Speaker 1: never know what's going on behind closed doors. But at
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  Speaker 1: some point, this is your daughter, and people going to say,
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  Speaker 1: like she's claiming she's being abused, it's ironically somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: a colleague of yours on the other side of the
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  Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. Do you think these allegations are true or not?
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  Speaker 1: Because either she's making a terrible allegation and falsely accusing him,
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  Speaker 1: or he's done terrible things that he should not be
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  Speaker 1: in Congress anymore and probably should be facing criminal charges.
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  Speaker 1: And Moreno has come out and said, you know that
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  Speaker 1: Miller should not be in office anymore. Being the nominee
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  Speaker 1: of your party is a privilege. It is not right.
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  Speaker 1: It is not something that once you get can never
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  Speaker 1: be rescinded. And you know, maybe if we'd know about
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, there could have and should
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  Speaker 1: have been a primary challenger to Miller. But it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things where if you are an Ohio Republican,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel better running with Max Miller as part
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  Speaker 1: of the you know ticket, I was only running in
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  Speaker 1: one house district. But nonetheless, if you are vivag from
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  Speaker 1: Aswami running for governor. Do you want this being an
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  Speaker 1: issue floating around in the background. You know, we we
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  Speaker 1: don't the one hand, and by the way, people can
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  Speaker 1: draw their own conclusions from that. I do find it
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: interesting when, you know, Marie, when Miller says, don't come
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: over to me and start messing with me, there's a
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: little bit of that you're asking for this, or you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: provoked this, or this is you know, my actions are a
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  Speaker 1: result of what you did, which is anybody who's familiar
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: with abusive relationships may find that time of that dynamic,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: you know, familiar or troubling. Look, you know, there are
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: lots of other people this district who could be the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Republican nominee. Just pick a guy off the street, and
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: he's not going to have this problem. He's not going
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: to have these controversies. So and also here's the thing,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Like I am very glad that the effort to get
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: rid of Graham Plattner succeeded. I know people like, oh,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: he would have been easier to defeat, But like, horrible
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: people should not be on the ballot. Horrible people should
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: not be running an office because you never know what's
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: going to happen, and I'd really rather not elect horrible people.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: And right now, the case that Max Miller is a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: horrible person, there's some awfully compelling evidence there, and Bernie
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Moreno did not run to his aid. So we will
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: see how this shakes out. Ugly situation. And again, like
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: character matters, folks, character matters and politics, you will catch
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: up to these people sooner or later and will end
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: up damaging the party, will end up damaging the movement.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see how it shakes out, Greig. But I'm you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it's a deeply frustrating and just dispiriting situation out there
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: in Ohio.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, forty eight hours to voluntarily lead the ticket,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: and I assume it gets a lot more complicated after that,
• 16:53
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  Speaker 2: slash three m. L oh Wisconsin Democratic Governor's primary. We
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: just can't quit you because you just keep getting crazier.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: August eleventh is primary in Wisconsin, and man, is this
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: getting crazy. Last week we talked about how Mandela Barnes,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the former lieutenant governor, left the race. I think there's
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: some pretty good science, Jim, that he was shoved in
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the back, probably by Tony Evers, the governor, and formerly
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: those guys were a ticket, but somewhere along the way
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: there was a falling out. Evers originally endorsed his current
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor, Sarah Rodriguez. A whole bunch of financial scandals
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: ended that campaign, as well as the fact she wasn't
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: polling well, and so then when that happened, Evers dragged
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a guy back into the race by the name of
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: David Crowley, who had already dropped out Milwaukee County executive.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You know, he was pulling, you know, barely at a
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: pulse of any sort. So now it's pretty much down
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to Hong and Crowley. There are a couple other candidates
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in the race, and right now Wisconsin Democrats are not
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: at all happy with Tony Evers. Political reporting that Ever's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: decision to back Crowley rattle Democrats who are already panicking
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: about Francesca Hong's rise. She's the socialist who's easily lapping
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the field in the polls right now. Interviews in the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: days since his endorsement with about two dozen Democratic strategists, donors, staffers,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and party officials, many of whom were granted anonymity to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: speak candidly or share private discussions, revealed widespread shock and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: frustration over a move they say has galvanized anti establishment
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: voters for Hong while splitting some among other candidates. Mike
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Van Sickling is quoted here, a former attorney in the
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Evers administration, longtime Democratic donor who is supporting a guy
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: named Joel Brennan in the race, says what Tony has
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: done as a lame duck is despicable. So Francesca Hank
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: could potentially be benefiting from all this. But meanwhile, her
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: tweets are coming out from back during the COVID days
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: gym and wow, one of them cancel Thanksgiving. Should have
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: done this in sixteen twenty one. If it takes a
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: worldwide pandemic for us to realize that we should stop
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: celebrating colonialism and the original super spreader event that killed
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Indigenous folks and women, so be it. There's another one.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: This is July of twenty nineteen, even before COVID. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: ate two bites of my kids cheese burger at a
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Culver's in Black River Falls and told him they ran
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: out of ice cream. Mostly just wanted to leave because
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I was on the verge of an anxiety attack. Too
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: many old white people who didn't think we spoke English.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And then another one from later in twenty nineteen, it
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: bro who was working on our computer remotely changed the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: background theme to snow and Christmas trees. I feel slightly attacked,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: so jam, But the Democrats are pulling out these tweets,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you know, all's fair and love and politics, and the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Republicans are pulling them out. I'd say, wait, till after
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the primary. But between all that and the infighting over
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the governor meddling way too much. Man, we're gonna run
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: out of popcorn here.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's a very strong case to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: make that Francesca Holme is the early front runner for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: one of our end of the year award Martinis, some
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: sort of like Rookie of the Year just for this year.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Number of times she has talked her way into our
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: crazy Martini. I mean, like, you know, if you're Representative
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Tom Tiffany, the Republican nominee, like your your slow, like
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: your your campaign ad as soon as the primary is over,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is do you want to have Thanksgiving? Or do you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: want to see it banned? If you like Thanksgiving, you'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: better have you know, better vote for Congressman Tiffany for governor.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: You know, like you're against Thanksgiving? Are you going up
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: against apple? Gonna ban apple pie? Next?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Mom?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: The American Fly all that kind of stuff in her
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: tweet where she says too many old white people who
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: didn't know whether we spoke English? How did she know?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Like did she go around and say do you think
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I speak English? Because I think if you ask the question,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: do you think I speak English in English, most people
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: are going to say, yes, I know you speak English.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You you just did. So it seems like she walks
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: around with a whole bunch of of kind of jumps
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to conclusions about other people. She convinced that lots of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: other people are hostile to her and out to get her,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and changing the screensaver to Christmas trees or something like that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That's really not the if that if that's how your
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: enemies are out to get you, it's really not that bad, right,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, sometimes people get shot at, some
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: people get you know, beat up, and stuff like that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh they change my screensaver to a Christmas tree. Also,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: let's say kind of she's for her credit, she has
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not declared bankruptcy in her campaign like one of the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: other candidates when they found out that all our fund
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: raising numbers are fraudulent. She simply had a personal debt
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of more than thirty thousand dollars in capital One came
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: along and said, what's in your wallet and why haven't
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you used that to pay back the death that you
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: owe to us. Thankfully, her family bailed her out, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: if the Hong family can bail out the rest of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the state of Wisconsin. Then maybe this isn't such a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: bad deal. However, I think the Hong family will not
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: have enough liquid assets to cover all the spending that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: she wants to do. Also she wants to owe. This
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: is also the same moment for those who might remember
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: who argue that the Green Bay Packers were an example
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of socialism and no, Jordan Love does not throw one
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: pass to each receiver before, you know, before giving a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: second pass to anyone else.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. I'm sure you've noticed the trend gym.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Whether it's Platner or Mom Donnie or Francesca Hong. Uh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: these are people who are not coming up from necessarily
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the depths of poverty. I don't know specifically about Hong,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: but certainly Momdannie and Plattner. They've got very wealthy parents.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And the candidates themselves don't really have a long track
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: record of anything in terms of accomplishment. But because they're
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: well healed, they have a chance to spend a lot
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of time ranting about what they see as the evils
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of capitalism and democracy and whatever. But it's just an
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: interesting trend that I'm noticing here. They claim to be
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the defenders of democracy and so forth. But in the end,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: they're just a bunch of whiners.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So the phrase yuppie used to came from from a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: young upwardly mobile It was either young urban professional or
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: young upwardly mobile professional. Well, a lot of these people
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: are downwardly mobile. They have had grown up fairly well off,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes middle class, sometimes upperclass, why out to college, got degrees,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: probably accumulated a decent amount of student debt. They didn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: all study basket weaving, but they generally studied things that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: have not enabled them to go into the working world
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and make the amount of money that they expected to.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Now this may be a matter of them having wildly
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations, this may be changes in the economy, but
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: either way, they cannot make money the way they want to,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and they have concluded that it's not I studied the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: wrong thing, or my skills are not valuable enough, or
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: where I'm living in if it's New York City is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the most expensive, one of the most expensive cities in
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the world, that's why I'm having a hard time making
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: ends meet. No, no society has failed. Then capitalism has
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: failed them, and it's everyone's fault.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: But theirs, especially the oligarchs.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's right, the millionaires actually not millionaires. I'm a millionaire now,
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  Speaker 1: billionaires are okay, it's the billionaires laies. That's my concession
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  Speaker 1: to bide inflation. I don't complain about millionaires anymore. If
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you have three houses, that's okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: we've had ugliness in this podcast, so let's leave on
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a really good note. Quick health update from our friend
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  Speaker 2: John Gabriel. It's actually from a couple of weeks ago.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: He says, a month back, I had a mega chemo
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  Speaker 2: blast followed by the reintroduction of my own healthy stem
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  Speaker 2: cells into my bloodstream, so stem cell transplant. After an
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  Speaker 2: unexpected hospital stay in rough recovery then expected. Yesterday, I
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  Speaker 2: had my thirty day post transplant tests. Good news, my
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  Speaker 2: body fully reintegrated my good stem cells. My white blood
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: cell and platelet count have already returned to the healthy range,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and the nausea that had been a major procedure complication
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: finally relented. He says, in about two months, they'll do
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: more tests of my blood and bone marrow, see if
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: any cancer sales remain, and then recommend some form of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: maintenance plan, likely a mild medication regime. God willing, it
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: looks like I'm through the worst of it. Just need
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to work on getting my appetite back, exercise, and pay
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the freaking bills, as he puts it. And so find
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  Speaker 2: his post Trump July twenty third if you'd like to
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: chip in with that. But Jim obviously continuing to pray
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: that the next round of labs looks great for John,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: one of the great people that we know, and this
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: couldn't be better news after that pretty discouraging multip milama
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  Speaker 2: diagnosis back in the fall.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, the exactly the news we needed,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and God bless you John Gabriel. By the way, his
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  Speaker 1: book Sync The Rising Sun, if I'm remembering correctly, If
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  Speaker 1: you want to help him out, those books sales are
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  Speaker 1: always nice. I know he's also got to go fund
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  Speaker 1: be out there. But Greg, I was just thinking that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you and I are not as young as we used
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to be. And it feels it's not everybody I know
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: has cancer, but it does feel like a lot more
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: people are telling me that, yeah, I've been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fighting the big C And there's I know a lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of people have said, you know, oh my god, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's getting cancer these days. It might
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: be a reflection of age, but also it's a sign
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: they're getting much better at detecting it, and they're getting
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: much better at detecting it earlier. And thankfully they're making
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: remarkable advances and ways to fight it, from radiation to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: immunotherapy to all kinds of things like that. So there
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: is good news on the cancer front. There's your odds
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of surviving cancer and accept you know, much higher than
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  Speaker 1: they were ten years ago, twenty years ago, thirty years ago.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So that's the good news when you hear about the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: number of people who are coming out and saying, yes,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I've been fighting cancer. The bad news is that cancer
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: is still a bitch and it's still very hard. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: so are still still praying for John, still playing for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: everybody out there who's dealing with this. God bless all
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of you, and again, glad get some good news on
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the front like.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: This, and he says he's plugging away on the second
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: novel in that series, so hopefully that'll be available soon.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But more importantly, hope the good medical news continue. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Jim happy to end on a much brighter note to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you tomorrow. See Tomorrow, Greg, Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm
• 29:06
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