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Mega Edition: Bryan Kohberger's Family Issues A Statement In The Wake Of His Arrest (8/20/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: Everyone, and welcome back to the program. On Friday, Dateline
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: NBC had a special about the Moscow murders, and we
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  Speaker 1: learned some pretty interesting stuff during that presentation by Dateline. Now,
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  Speaker 1: usually we just get a rehash of everything that we
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  Speaker 1: know already and they repackage it and serve it back up.
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  Speaker 1: But in this case, we learned some pretty interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And previously we talked about the allegations that Brian Coohberger
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  Speaker 1: broke into a colleague's home in order to move her
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  Speaker 1: furniture around and freak her out so that she'd reach
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  Speaker 1: out to him so that he'd come and help her
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  Speaker 1: secure her residence. Now, of course, these are just rumors
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  Speaker 1: for now. We haven't heard that from any official source,
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  Speaker 1: so we have to make sure that we keep that
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  Speaker 1: in mind. But with everything that we've learned about Brian
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  Speaker 1: Cohberger and everything we know about him, it certainly attracts
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  Speaker 1: with me that he would do something like that. And remember,
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  Speaker 1: the source that NBC is talking about is the woman
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  Speaker 1: that this happened to, so why would she lie about that?
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  Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, most of these accounts of
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  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger and what he was like and how he
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  Speaker 1: conducted himself. I find them to be truthful, and that's
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  Speaker 1: because we've heard basically the same stuff from a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of different people. But now we're hearing that Brian Colberger's
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  Speaker 1: sister feared that Brian might have been involved in the murders,
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  Speaker 1: and they were so concerned that they dove into the
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  Speaker 1: white Honda Alantra dig in for clues. Today we have
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  Speaker 1: an article from The Independent and the headline Brian Coberger's
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  Speaker 1: sister feared he could be involved in Idaho murders before
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  Speaker 1: sudden arrest. Sources told NBC's Dateline that the accused killer's
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  Speaker 1: family searched as white Hondai Alantra for possible evidence of
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  Speaker 1: the crime. Now, imagine your own family thinks you're capable
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  Speaker 1: of something like this. Anyone ever came to my house
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  Speaker 1: and told my parents that I murdered four people in
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  Speaker 1: their home, They would not believe it for one single second.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly not enough to dive into the Hondai a Lantra
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  Speaker 1: and start looking for evidence. Now, of course, if the
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  Speaker 1: police showed up with evidence, oh, my parents would believe them,
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  Speaker 1: believe that, and I wouldn't have to worry about the police.
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  Speaker 1: Forget it, my mom would kill me. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: the family members saying oh, we better look in the
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  Speaker 1: car to see if there's evidence is a huge tell.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Rachel Sharp. Brian Coberger's sister
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  Speaker 1: feared that her brother was involved in the stabbings afore
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  Speaker 1: University of Idaho students before police swooped on their parents'
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  Speaker 1: home and arrested him for murder. According to a Bombshell report,
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  Speaker 1: So again, look, that's bad, right, not a good look.
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  Speaker 1: How many of you out there would have your sister
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  Speaker 1: jumping into your car looking for evidence. I'm sure not
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  Speaker 1: many of you. Maybe some of you, some of you
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  Speaker 1: might not have a good relationship with your brother or
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  Speaker 1: sister whatever. Okay, great, But the vast majority of people,
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  Speaker 1: their parents and their siblings aren't gonna just think right
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  Speaker 1: out of the box that their loved one is the
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  Speaker 1: one responsible for these kinds of heinous murders. Unless there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason for your sister to feel that way, or
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  Speaker 1: for your parents to feel that way. That's not a
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  Speaker 1: normal emotion. That's not what normal people think of their children.
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  Speaker 1: Sources told NBC's Dateline that one of the accused killers
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  Speaker 1: older siblings grew increasingly suspicious of her brother and his
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  Speaker 1: behavior when the family gathered to spend the holidays together.
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  Speaker 1: Her suspicions were so great that at one point, several
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  Speaker 1: family members searched mister Coohberger's white Hondai a Lantra for
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  Speaker 1: a possible evidence of the crime. They said, Madison Mogan,
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  Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalbis, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were found brutally
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  Speaker 1: stabbed to death in the off campus home in Moscow, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: that the three women shared with two other roommates, back
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  Speaker 1: on the thirteenth of November, so over the Christmas holiday.
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  Speaker 1: This is what his sister was doing digging through his
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  Speaker 1: car because she had her own suspicions that old Coburger
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  Speaker 1: was involved. Meanwhile, you have a bunch of goofballs sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the Internet talking about how Brian Kohberger is innocent
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  Speaker 1: and he's not the right guy. Well, this is bad
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  Speaker 1: news for people like that. If his own family thought
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  Speaker 1: he was capable of doing something like this, chances are
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  Speaker 1: we got the right guy here, folks. And look, of course,
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  Speaker 1: nothing is set in stone right until Brian Colberger has
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  Speaker 1: been convicted. He is innocent of these crimes. But that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he's not the prime suspect. That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean that he's not basically the only one that could
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  Speaker 1: be responsible for this as far as we know, And
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  Speaker 1: the more information we get by the day, the more
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  Speaker 1: I'm convinced that he is the killer. And hearing stuff
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  Speaker 1: like this about his sister and her reaction, it makes
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  Speaker 1: me even more confident that we're on the right path here.
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  Speaker 1: For more than six weeks, no suspects were publicly identified,
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  Speaker 1: and Leeds appeared to have gone cold, and that really
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the case, was it. They were hard at work
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, putting together a profile and building a
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  Speaker 1: case against Brian Kolberger. And I was critical of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit I wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: some action. I knew that having all of those FBI agents,
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  Speaker 1: having the BAU, and all of those other resources that
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  Speaker 1: were available to them, I knew that that should accelerate
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  Speaker 1: things and there should be no reason why they shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be able to find somebody responsible for what happened. And
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  Speaker 1: looking back on it all with hindsight, the police did
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  Speaker 1: a masterful job here, and it certainly didn't take all
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  Speaker 1: that long when you're looking at it in context, but
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  Speaker 1: at the time it seemed like it was taking forever. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: we had a murderer on the loose who was capable
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  Speaker 1: of killing four people in cold blood in their home,
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  Speaker 1: so of course people wanted that person brought to justice.
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  Speaker 1: In mid December, mister Coburger, a twenty eight year old
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  Speaker 1: criminology PhD student at Washington State University, embarked on a
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  Speaker 1: cross country trip with his father from his student rental
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  Speaker 1: home in Pullman, Washington, back to the family home in
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  Speaker 1: all Brightsville, Pennsylvania to spend the holidays together. But during
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  Speaker 1: this time at home, his family members noticed that he
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  Speaker 1: was behaving somewhat bizarrely. The source said that mister Coburger
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  Speaker 1: was constantly wearing latex gloves, including inside their own home.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine your brother comes home from college and he's never
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  Speaker 1: done anything like that before, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: dudes running around wearing latex gloves, not wanting to touch anything.
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  Speaker 1: He has the white hondaei alantra. You start to put
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  Speaker 1: the pieces together. Imagine what that realization must be like,
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  Speaker 1: how it hits you like ten thousand pounds of bricks.
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  Speaker 1: I feel real bad for Brian Coberger's family. I've said
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  Speaker 1: this before, and I feel bad for his sisters who
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  Speaker 1: lost their jobs. One of his two older sisters began
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  Speaker 1: to wonder if he could have played a part in
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  Speaker 1: the murders, and at one point she raised her concerns
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  Speaker 1: with other family members. She loudly pointed out that at
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  Speaker 1: the time of the murder, her brother was living just
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  Speaker 1: a few miles from the crime scene, and that he
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  Speaker 1: could have drove a white Hondae Alantra and the make
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  Speaker 1: and the color of the vehicle at the center of
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  Speaker 1: the investigation. And kudos to the sister here, but man,
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  Speaker 1: imagine having that opinion of your brother that he's capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing something like this, along with his bizarre tendency
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  Speaker 1: to wear latex gloves all the time. She believed that
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  Speaker 1: the family should consider that mister Coberger might have killed
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  Speaker 1: the four victims. The source said. Mister Coberger's father allegedly
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  Speaker 1: defended his son and insisted he could not have been involved.
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  Speaker 1: Who wants to believe that their son could be a killer, Right, Hey, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: I think Brian is the one who murdered all the
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  Speaker 1: kids in Moscow. You'd think, what, what are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about right now, get out of my kitchen with that shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's a parent's reaction, and that is the automatic reaction,
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  Speaker 1: right that nobody wants to believe that their kids capable
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  Speaker 1: of doing something like this. But obviously his sister had
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  Speaker 1: a more sober view of who Brian Colberger was. But
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  Speaker 1: the concerns were clearly big enough for several of the
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  Speaker 1: family members to reportedly decide to search the twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: year old's vehicle to look for possible evidence. That must
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  Speaker 1: have been a fun conversation. Hey, Brian, give me your keys.
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  Speaker 1: I need to go look in your car to see
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  Speaker 1: if I can find any evidence of you being a murderer.
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  Speaker 1: Hand over those keys. Pal. By that point, police said,
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  Speaker 1: mister Coburger had already been spotted cleaning his car out
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  Speaker 1: with bleach, and so the family members didn't find anything
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  Speaker 1: of note, the source said, and the bleach is going
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  Speaker 1: to come back to haunt them. Oh, you might have
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  Speaker 1: cleaned some stuff up, but the journey is going to
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  Speaker 1: want to know why you're using bleach inside of your car. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to want to know why you the man
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  Speaker 1: who is being accused of these murders with all of
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  Speaker 1: this evidence piled up against you was using bleach to
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  Speaker 1: clean out the interior of their car. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a question that the jury certainly is going to
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  Speaker 1: want to have answered, and that Brian Kohberger is not
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  Speaker 1: going to be able to answer. It's not clear if
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  Speaker 1: mister Coburger was aware of his family member's suspicions that
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  Speaker 1: he could have been behind the murders, or what potential
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  Speaker 1: prior behavior may have led his sister to suspect him
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  Speaker 1: capable of carrying out such a brutal crime. Exactly. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I've been saying. You have to have exhibited some
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  Speaker 1: kind of behavior in the past for people to say
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  Speaker 1: to themselves, hey, that could be Brian who did this.
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  Speaker 1: Soon after, in the early hours of December thirtieth, law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement swooped on the family home and arrested him for
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  Speaker 1: the murders. At the time of his arrest, the source said,
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  Speaker 1: mister Coburger was wide awake, standing in the kitchen, wearing
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  Speaker 1: latex gloves and putting his personal trash and plastic bags
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  Speaker 1: to take it out to a neighbor's trash can very
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  Speaker 1: normal behavior, right, This is what normal people do in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the night in their living room when
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  Speaker 1: they're home on Christmas vacation at their parents' house. An
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  Speaker 1: attorney close to mister Coberger's family declined to comment on
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  Speaker 1: the revelations outlined in date lines the killings on King Road.
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  Speaker 1: On Monday, May twenty second, he will appear in court
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  Speaker 1: for his arraynment on four counts of first degree of
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  Speaker 1: murder and burglary. The twenty eight year old is scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to be arraigned in Letah County Court in Moscow, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: where he is expected to enter a plea on the charges.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Coburger had been due to appear in court for
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  Speaker 1: a week long preliminary hearing on June twenty sixth, where
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution would lay out the case and evidence against
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  Speaker 1: the suspect. However, last Tuesday, a grand jury indicted mister
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  Speaker 1: Colberger on the charges, paving the way for the case
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  Speaker 1: to proceed without and leading to the cancelation of the
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  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing. Mister Colberger is accused of breaking into the
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  Speaker 1: student home in the early hours of November thirteenth and
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  Speaker 1: stabbing the four students to death in a horror attack
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  Speaker 1: that rock the college town of Moscow and send shockwaves
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  Speaker 1: across America. The motive remains unknown, and it is still
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  Speaker 1: unclear what connection the Washington State University PhD student had
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  Speaker 1: to the University of Idaho's students, if any, prior to
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  Speaker 1: the murders. Well, what about the connections of Instagram? What
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  Speaker 1: about the connections of the mad Greek. Let's not act
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  Speaker 1: like those don't exist. Okay, they do. You can state
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  Speaker 1: them and then just say, hey, look, these are rumors.
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  Speaker 1: These are solid rumors that have been put out there
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  Speaker 1: by people close to the case. And then if people
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  Speaker 1: want to believe it, fine, If they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: believe it, that's fine too. But those are the rumors
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  Speaker 1: that are out there, and they're not rumors that were
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  Speaker 1: started on like four Chan or something like that. They
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  Speaker 1: come from relatively reliable sources as far as we know. However,
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  Speaker 1: the affid David released in January revealed that mister Coberger's
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  Speaker 1: DNA was found on a knife sheath left behind at
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  Speaker 1: the scene of the murders. It was also revealed that
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  Speaker 1: his white Hondai Lantra was caught on surveillance footage at
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene, and that one of the surviving roommates
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  Speaker 1: came face to face with the killer, who was masked
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  Speaker 1: and dressed from head to toe in black and with
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  Speaker 1: bushy eyebrows as he left the home. In the aftermath
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  Speaker 1: of the murders, new details have also emerged about what
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  Speaker 1: was found during the initial search of his apartment and
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  Speaker 1: a rental storage unit. The court documents show that two
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  Speaker 1: items found in his apartment tested positive for blood. Now
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  Speaker 1: we don't know if that blood was his, just to reiterate,
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  Speaker 1: or if it was the blood of one of these
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  Speaker 1: victims or from somebody else. We don't know yet. The
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  Speaker 1: two items were a mattress cover on the bed and
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  Speaker 1: an uncased pillow, both of which had visible aettish brown stains.
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  Speaker 1: The documents do not reveal who the blood belongs to.
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  Speaker 1: Investigator sees a string of other items from his home,
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  Speaker 1: including possible human and animal hair strands, a disposable glove,
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  Speaker 1: and a computer. The murder weapon, a fixed blade knife,
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  Speaker 1: has still never been found. As a criminal justice PhD
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  Speaker 1: student at Washington State University, mister Coberger lived just fifteen
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  Speaker 1: minutes from the victims over the Idaho Washington border in Pullman.
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  Speaker 1: He had moved there from Pennsylvania and began his studies
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  Speaker 1: there that summer, having just completed his first semester before
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  Speaker 1: his arrest. Before this, he studied criminology at the Sallas University,
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  Speaker 1: first as an undergraduate and then finishing his graduate studies
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  Speaker 1: in June of twenty twenty. While there, he studied under
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  Speaker 1: renowned forensic psychologist Katherine Ramsland, who interviewed the BTK serial
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  Speaker 1: killer and co wrote the book Confession of a Serial Killer,
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  Speaker 1: The Untold Story of Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer with him.
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  Speaker 1: My guess is Ramsland will get the offer to write
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  Speaker 1: a book about Brian Coohberger as well, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: she'll get access to him the same way she did
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  Speaker 1: the BTK. He also carried out a research project to
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  Speaker 1: understand how emotions and psychological trades influence decision making when
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  Speaker 1: committing a crime. Now, the criminology PhD student is set
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  Speaker 1: to appear in Leayta County Courthouse in Idaho for his
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  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing on June twenty sixth. He is facing life
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  Speaker 1: in prison or the death penalty for the murders that
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  Speaker 1: have rocked the small college town of Moscow and hid
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  Speaker 1: headlines around the globe. Anytime we have one of these
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  Speaker 1: specials like Dateline or you know, anything like that that's
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  Speaker 1: based on these murders or any case, there's always a
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  Speaker 1: few nuggets inside of those documentaries or a present that
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  Speaker 1: end up being pretty damn interesting. And here we certainly
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  Speaker 1: have an interesting scenario playing out where Brian Kolberger's own
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  Speaker 1: family members, at least some of them, thought that he
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  Speaker 1: was the man who might possibly be responsible for these murders.
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  Speaker 1: And if his own family feels that way, why should
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  Speaker 1: I be giving him the benefit of the doubt? All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this one. All of the
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  Speaker 1: information that goes with the episode can be found in
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  Speaker 1: the description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the program. The family of the man suspected of murdering
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  Speaker 1: the four college students in Moscow, Idaho, has released a statement,
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  Speaker 1: and in that statement, they're asking that the public waits
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  Speaker 1: for all of the facts to be in before they
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  Speaker 1: make any sort of rush to judgment. Now, I can
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  Speaker 1: understand that no parent wants to think that their kid
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  Speaker 1: is capable of such a heinous act as we've seen
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  Speaker 1: go down in Moscow, So of course your parents want
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  Speaker 1: to give you the benefit of the doubt right. You
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  Speaker 1: have a kid with no criminal history, never got in
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  Speaker 1: trouble before, and if you're his parents, then he says
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  Speaker 1: to you, hey, look, I didn't do this. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you want to believe him. However, the circumstantial evidence that
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  Speaker 1: we have so far that the public has available to them,
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  Speaker 1: it's not looking good for Brian Coohberger. And if we
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  Speaker 1: have circumstantial evidence that has been provided that doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: great for him, Well, what do you think the investigators have? Now?
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  Speaker 1: He can easily say that he had been to that
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  Speaker 1: house before, to a party or something like that, and
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  Speaker 1: that explains why his DNA is there. Now. Is that
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  Speaker 1: gonna be enough for him to get off here or
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  Speaker 1: for a jury not to convict him. I highly doubt it,
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  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the strategy or
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  Speaker 1: the defense that they use. The reason that my client
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  Speaker 1: DNA is there is because he was at one of
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  Speaker 1: these parties that was thrown at this house, and with
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  Speaker 1: it already being established that it was a house where
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  Speaker 1: there would be people there without the homeowners or the
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  Speaker 1: tenants even being home, he can say, look, I was there,
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  Speaker 1: even if they didn't see me, I was part of
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  Speaker 1: a big group that was hanging out there, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why my DNA is in this house. And it'll be
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  Speaker 1: up to the prosecution, remember, to prove that he is
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  Speaker 1: the one that is guilty of these crimes. So he's
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  Speaker 1: going to try and say that it wasn't him. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to plead not guilty. He's already said that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's waiting to be exonerated, and he shocked
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  Speaker 1: that he was arrested, all sorts of stuff. And as
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  Speaker 1: his parents, if he's telling you that, until you see
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  Speaker 1: the evidence yourself, you want to give your son the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Now the rest of us, well,
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  Speaker 1: I highly doubt that's going to happen. And that's not
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  Speaker 1: just partial to this case. That's how it usual goes.
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  Speaker 1: People make their minds up, People take a look at
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  Speaker 1: the evidence that's presented, and then they make an opinion
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's no different than the old days when
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: we'd all be at work hanging out around the water
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  Speaker 1: cooler talking about OJ Simpson. It's just a bigger platform. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of everybody hanging around the water cooler, we're all
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  Speaker 1: here hanging out on the internet and talking about what
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: went down, and that's just the way these stories go.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why when people talk about Jerry Pools and
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  Speaker 1: this that the other thing. Public opinions one thing. What
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  Speaker 1: the jurors and what happens in that courtroom, well that's
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  Speaker 1: a completely different thing altogether. And the public's going to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: talk about these cases and the public's going to have opinions,
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  Speaker 1: and there's no stopping that. What really matters, however, is
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  Speaker 1: what happens in the courtroom when this trial starts and
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution and the defense start trading barbs. That's when
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna count. And the whole idea about the jury
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: being tainted, well, that's out the window already. I've seen
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: people defending Brian Coohberger saying that he's innocent, saying that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: he's not guilty, saying that this is not going to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: be the right guy. The small town police force acted
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: too quickly. So if people are thinking like that already
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  Speaker 1: on the internet, then how are you going to try
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and convince me that the jury pool is tainted because
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of conversation on the internet. That is just absurd and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: there's no way to stop it. It's just like I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: said earlier, around the Water cooler. In the old days,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: people would talk about whatever the hot topic was, whatever
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the news was. Now it's just escalated to a different
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: level because we can all do it from the comfort
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of our homes and from behind a computer screen. So
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: people are going to continue to talk about this, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: for unfortunately, I should say, for Brian Cohberger, people are
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: gonna have some opinions about whether he's innocent or guilty.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Me personally, I think that the circumstantial evidence that we
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have presented to us so far is certainly enough for
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: probable cause here. Now, besides that, I haven't seen any
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of the other evidence, and neither has anyone else in
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the public, so we don't know what the prosecution has,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: but chances are what they do have is pretty strong
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: or they're not going to get a warrant like this.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And remember it's not just the small town police force.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the FBI, You're talking about the state police,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and the slew of other experts that were involved here.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So typically that means they have a pretty strong case,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: at least as far as probable cause. And we're gonna
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: learn a lot more about this when he gets extradited.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Once he gets back to Idaho, and we get a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: look at the charging documents, the AFFI David, all of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that stuff, we'll be able to make heads or tails
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: at least a little bit more of what's going on here.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: So with that said, let's get into this article from
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Newsweek and let's see what Brian Koberger's family had to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: say about the arrest. This article was published by Newsweek
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and the headline Idaho murder suspect Brian Cohberger's family make statement.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Anna Commander. The family of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Brian Coberger, the suspect who was charged with murdering for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: University of Idaho's students last November, has released a statement
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: saying that they care deeply for the victims' families and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: will continue to love and support their son. And you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: look again, I don't want to fault the family for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: coming out and saying, you know, I love and support
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: my son, especially he's just been arrested. So if you're
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a mom or a dad, like I said in the opening,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you want to think the best of your kid, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you don't want to jump to conclusions and just say
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: all right, that's it. You're guilty because you've been arrested.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So I can understand the family coming out here and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: being a little bit vocal and saying, look, we're gonna
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: respect the process. We're gonna see what happens as far
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: as the trial goes, but we're standing by our loved one.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: News Nation reporter Brian Enton posted this statement from Colberger's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: family to Twitter on Sunday. The family statement said, first
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have lost their precious children. There are no words that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: each day for them. Now that's a nice gesture, right,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: nice thing to come out and say, because remember, those
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: families are affected the most. They lost their children. They're
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: not coming home. There's not going to be any visitation
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: hours for Zana, or for Ethan, or for kay Lee
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: or for Madison. It continued, we will continue to let
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the legal process unfold, and as a family, we will
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: love and support our son and brother. We have fully
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the truth and promote his presumption of innocence, rather than
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions. Now, this is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a different way of going about it than Brian Laundry's family.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: If you remember the way that the Laundry is clammed
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: up and the way that they acted, it was just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: all bad right from Jump Street. At least this family's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: coming out and showing a little bit of emotion, showing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that they have a little bit of empathy for these
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: murdered students, So I think that is a mark in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: their favor. However, we don't know all of the facts yet,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and everything's on the table. As usual, I remain agnostic
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: until we have the facts in front of us, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: when I say the facts, I mean the actual facts
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of the investigation. Police took the twenty eight year old
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Coburger into custody at his parents' home in Chestnut Hill
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Township at Pennsylvania on December thirtieth. He is charged with
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the murders of Kaylee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Ethan Chapin. The four students were found stabbed to death
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: in their beds in an off campus residence on November thirteenth.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Police believe Colberger broke into the student shared living space
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: with the intent to commit murder before traveling cross country
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania, And it was a shrewd move on the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: prosecutor's part as well to nall him with this robbery charge,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: because the robbery automatically says that this was premeditated. So
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: if it was premeditated robbery, it was premeditated murder as well.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So it was a good move on the prosecutor's part
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: there to nall him with that robbery charge, and I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked to see more charges later on down
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the road as well. Coburger was a PhD student in
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology at Washington State University,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: less than ten miles from the University of Idaho, so
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: he was not far away. And we talked about this before,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but it would have been easy for him to stalk
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: these girls, to stalk them his house, to case it,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and to follow them while not raising too much suspicion
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: because he's from the general vicinity anyway. You know, if
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he's lurking around in Moscow and say he got carted
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: by a cop or something, you know, police officer asked
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: him for his ID, they'd see that he lives in Pullman.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It's not out of place for somebody from Pullman to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: be hanging out in Moscow. So the more we learn
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: about this guy and what he was up to, the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: more it seems to me anyway, that this was all
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: planned out. He thought he was going to have himself
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a nice, sophisticated murder here, but instead, Captain Criminology forgot
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: one of the first rules of being a crook, don't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: use your own vehicle. These murders have shaken our community,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and I know that no arrest will restore the families
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: or bring these young students back. However, we believe in
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the criminal process and continue to extend our most sincere
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: condolences to the families, said Moscow Police Chief James Frye
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: on Friday. Police also said mister Coberger's probable cause AFFID
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: David's remains sealed until the arrest warrant is returned to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the court. The factual basis of this case will also
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: remain sealed until the suspect makes an initial appearance in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Idaho court. To expedite the process of transportation back to Idaho,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Coburger said he will waive extradition. According to his attorney,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Jason Lebar, now I look at this two different ways.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: One he wants to play games with the prosecutors and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: get back there to engage in that right away, or
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: two he's really going to try and beat this case
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and act like he's innocent. One of those two options,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, is why he's waiving this extradition. Mister
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Coburger is eager to be exonerated of these charges and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: looks forward to resolving these matters as promptly as possible.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Labar said in a statement. Mister Coberger has been accused
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of very serious crimes, but the American justice system cloaks
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: him in a veil of innocence. He should be presumed
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: innocent until proven otherwise, not try it in the court
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of public opinion. See there they go with that public
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: opinion thing. Glenn Maxwell's lawyer tried this and it didn't
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: work out well for them. We've seen it with Keith Rayniery.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Him and his lawyers tried it, or Kelly tried it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It's not going to work out well for them either
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: if they try, and you know, focus on what the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: public is talking about, what the public narrative is. That
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: means ungats inside of a courtroom. Meanwhile, retired FBI agent
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Kofendaffer took to Twitter on Sunday and predicted that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Coburger will be back in Moscow, Idaho, by the end
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of the week to begin the judicial process. Koffendaffer told
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Newsweek on Sunday, I think it's a smart and responsible
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: response to make. As a parent, you want to support
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: your child. It is normal and natural to believe your
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: child is innocent, especially against atrocities like these. It was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: nice to acknowledge the victims whose lives were brutally taken
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: from them, and I agree with her with that. I'm
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: not going to jump down the parents' throats here, considering
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we don't have all of the evidence yet. They don't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: have all of the evidence yet, and who knows what
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: their relationship is with their son. He might have been
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: someone who never got in trouble, never gave them any
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: reason to suspect he was gonna get in trouble, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they believe him no matter what he says. There are
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: parents out there that will believe their children no matter what.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Kaufendaffer added, the suspects family's opinions really have no relevance here,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and no doubt to me, law enforcement will look into
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the parents to see if they aided and abetted him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It is very plausible that they did not know about
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the alleged crimes he committed. Now again, I'm agnostic. I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: not saying one way or the other what they did
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: or didn't do, because I don't know. I would hope
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that these parents wouldn't help him, But we saw down
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in the Gabby Patito case how the laundryes rolled, and boy,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: old boy, did that leave a bad taste in my mouth.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Any parent who's going to aid in a bed their
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: child if they murdered somebody or in this case for people,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: they should be charged as well, not only for being
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: somebody who is an accessory after the fact, but be
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: charged for being shitty ass parents. The former FBI agent
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: concluded by saying, as a parent, this situation is difficult
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: because you love your son, you support your son, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do that when they are accused of
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a quadruple homicide. There's no doubt I can't even imagine
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: how the parents feel. Right now, you got your son
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: who is accused of these heinous crimes. Everybody in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: country looking sideways at you, and I'm sure there's people
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: camping out, chopping at the bit to get into that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: gated community. There's gonna be professional protesters, wait and see,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna turn into quite a scene and all of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the unfortunately they're gonna be stuck with dealing with that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: as well. Like we saw down once again with Gabby
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Petito and the way people started camping out in front
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: of the laundry's house. And I have no doubt in
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: my mind that the same exact thing's gonna crack off here.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see and we'll see where it
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: all goes. But as of now, this is the statement
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that the suspect, Brian Koberger's family has put out on
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: his behalf. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for
• 30:29
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