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Cincinnati Takeover 2025: Exploring Cincinnati's Craft Beer Scene | Episode 75 · The Brewery Underground Podcast | Craft Beer Interviews, Reviews and Beer Travel

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  In the shadow Creek and when the hosk alive Steve escott porn
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  tail surprise crafting bruise dark and light underground with
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  us, we're ready to ignite with every sip we saw a race though,
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  throw the Reagan trees let the fashion to grow So we show a
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  glass of the night. Begin in this mail mode, but let
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  the journey. Spin Yeah.
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  Hey, we. Are we're back?
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  Baby, we're doing it live. Well, live for doing a podcast
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  and we're doing. It live.
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  That's right. We're doing it live, baby.
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  We're doing it live. Unless people are listening to
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  this and well, it's actually recorded but just pretend it's
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  live. Right now it's live for you and
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  I I am. Right now, this is live.
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  There's so many jokes out there that we could that we could use
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  for this podcast edition. You know what this is?
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  This is the one we've been talking about for a while.
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  This is the Cincinnati Takeover edition, 2025.
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  Steve Sullivan, The Chancellor. Scott Beer.
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  Scott Turon. What up?
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  Man, we did it. We conquered we.
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  Made it. We conquered, we survived.
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  That was a big thing. Surviving is always a good
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  thing. Where we're going to make it
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  through the 8 days. Actually, we had, we had.
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  No, we had no doubts, did we? I mean, that's right.
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  It really wasn't. It really wasn't even that hard.
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  No, it actually wasn't. No, we just, we just do.
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  We just did what we do. That's right.
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  We cruised on through. We took the annual trip to
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  Cincinnati and this is a two-part episode.
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  This episode we were talking all things that we did in
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  Cincinnati. I got my little Reds hat on
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  here. Red shirt go Reds.
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  You know, do you own any other clothing?
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  I don't know, probably not everything is red back.
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  Here. I know.
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  But yeah, we we took over Ohio. In fact, the the podcast after
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  this one, we'll be talking about our trip to Cleveland.
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  Where else? Akron, Cleveland.
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  Columbus, Yeah. Louisville.
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  Louisville. Yeah, Louisville.
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  Louisville, however you pronounce.
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  It yeah, yeah, yeah, we did a lot and it's the two parters and
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  we have a lot of we have a lot of content here a.
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  Lot of stories, a lot of content.
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  Yeah, we're kind of breaking up into two different tricks, shall
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  we say the Cincinnati one and then Part 2 would kind of be
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  Cleveland, Akron, Columbus, Louisville.
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  Louisville, we're gonna, we're gonna get, we're gonna get our
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  buddies, the Hill Tappers. Oh yeah.
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  Tom and Brad to talk to us about the correct pronunciation one
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  day for the city and where they live.
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  It won't be long because they're coming on with us at some.
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  Point they are. They are.
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  Let's talk about our trip. You know what?
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  I know we're we're we're we're also gonna be talking about beer
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  in the Cincinnati tradition. Hey, brewery, we're going to be
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  talking about. I have the Rhine Geist here.
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  It is a hazy IPA. It is Mysticor.
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  Oh, kicking that off on the Cincinnati Takeover Edition,
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  2025. Cheers to that.
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  I have got one that I brought back from part of our trip.
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  It's called Lean W Double IPA from Masthead Brewing we got
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  from our friends Keith Elizabeth.
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  Yeah. So one of our beers in our beer
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  trade, I'm going to start with that, but I have others that
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  we're going to get to. Awesome.
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  Well, Masthead was certainly on the list and you'll be hearing
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  more about them in the in the next podcast coming up.
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  But you know, we have to, we have to talk about our trip and
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  everything that we did and we'll go through a lot of different
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  things. Basically it spanned about 5
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  days the week before. Memorial.
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  Day what a trip it was. We're going to give you some
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  stats at the end and. I want to.
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  I want to. Begin talking about this
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  because, you know, going up we had a semblance of a plan, a
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  semblance of a plan of trying to hit different breweries.
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  A pretty good one. I mean, we had stuff written
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  down. We had, we had stuff written,
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  yeah, we actually had a Google Sheet stuff written down.
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  And the kind of a plan was, all right, so we're going to be
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  going up there on a Friday. We're going to be there
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  Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, and then leaving on a
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  Wednesday. And I was like, you know what,
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  let's try to hit like the north, the South, the east and the
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  West. And we sort of accomplished that
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  goal on most of them. We.
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  Did. Of course we didn't.
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  We didn't accomplish the goal of hitting every brewery in the
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  North SE and West because we would not be alive at this
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  point. We would not be doing this live
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  because we wouldn't be alive if we hit.
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  Every bury in. Cincinnati.
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  We wouldn't look, we could like, well, you couldn't hit everyone
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  you we could have hit everything on our list if we just ran in
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  and did beer and ran back out again.
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  We don't do that. We like to enjoy where we're at
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  a lot of times too. So hence not getting to
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  everything on the list. That's true.
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  If we just ran into every brewery in the quadrant area
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  that we went in, you could run in.
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  You can get one beer and say, all right, give me your Mexican
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  lager. I'm out of here and I'll grab it
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  on the run. And then I'm going to, you know,
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  brewery number 575, because that's how many breweries are up
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  there. Not exactly that many, but there
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  are. There are a lot of them, Yeah.
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  Yeah, but we don't do that. We we really do.
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  And you'll you'll hear this in our stories in this episode of
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  the next one. But we like to go in place,
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  especially when we really like the place and we haven't been
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  and enjoy them. If we go to, we go to places
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  we've been to as well too, that we know that we enjoy and we're
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  going to spend time there too. That was that was one of the
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  goals. So there are always certain
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  breweries that we know when we go up that we're going to hit.
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  I mean, you know, I'm drinking Rhine Geist.
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  Yes, we're going to go to Rhine Geist.
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  We're probably going to go to Braxton, which we did Sonder.
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  There's others, you know, Listerman.
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  And it's interesting because I, I know you talk to people, I
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  talk to people and they'll say, did you go here?
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  Did you go there, go here, go there and there's a couple of
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  breweries that are always on the list that I hear about.
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  One of them is Third Eye and they have two locations, one in
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  Sharonville and the other one in Hamilton.
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  We did not get the Third Eye right.
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  This time. Right, Not this time, not this
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  time we've been, but yes, right we've.
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  Been the third eye before and we are going to get there again.
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  That was actually on our hope to get to list and we did not get
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  the third. Eye.
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  The other brewery that we did not get to was St.
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  Side. We went there last year briefly.
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  Yeah. We had hoped to get there again.
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  And that was a little higher on our list and even Third Eye
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  because we only spent a small amount of time there the last
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  time. It was yeah.
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  And we will, we'll talk in a little bit about what what
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  happened that made us bypass St. side, but that's OK.
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  We were talking, I mean, I remember we were calling like
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  coming back from our trip and talking about what are some of
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  the ones that, you know, we want to try to get to in the future.
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  And I know like 9 giants, their affirmatorium, we've not been to
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  that one. We've actually we actually went
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  to their brewery a few years ago and Affirmatorium we were hoping
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  to get to. And so it's kind of like, OK,
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  that's going to be an on the list in the future.
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  We know north of town, like you know, we've we basically have
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  gone as far as like N we've gone up near Saunder.
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  We haven't ventured above there. And it was funny because we were
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  coming back from Columbus the one day and I was showing you,
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  I'm like, these are the areas that I think, you know, or some
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  breweries that one of these days we're going to have to get to
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  and we're going to just have to stay up here or do something.
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  Spend the day. Yeah, because there's so many
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  different ones. I mean Warped Wing and Common
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  Beer Company and Cartridge. I mean there's so many different
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  breweries, even some I'm not even mentioning.
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  And you know, between like Cincinnati, Middletown, Dayton,
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  Hamilton, Westchester, there are so many breweries over that way
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  that eventually we will get to and we knocked off the list.
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  But buddy, we knocked off a lot of breweries.
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  Yeah. So that being said, for the
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  places we didn't get to, there's a whole bunch we did get to.
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  That's right. So whether it's new or whether
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  it's old, we, we definitely got into some other breweries as
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  well. And before we get into some of
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  the stuff that we did, there is something that I that I just
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  noticed as we were up there and if we were planning and, and we
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  actually took advantage of this. And I don't know how new of a
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  thing this is. We've talked about, you know,
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  the brewery experience and I think this is a really cool
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  thing for people. If maybe you live in the
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  Cincinnati area, you've not done this, you're going to go up
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  there. Is the number of breweries up
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  there that now have brunch options?
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  Yeah, there was no shortage of it and we were getting them like
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  earlier in the week, you know, how did some places are, you
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  know, don't have their hours are weird early in the week, like a
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  Monday, Tuesday or a Sunday or they're not even open.
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  But we were finding places. You did a lot of research on
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  that before we went up there. So we knew places to go.
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  But yeah, there's plenty of that stuff up that way, like for
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  every day of the week because we had, we covered a whole week, so
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  we had to account for every day. Like every day of the week.
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  So, so now you have breweries that again, maybe this has
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  happened, happened for a number of years, I'm not sure.
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  But like, for example, like Sonder, they do a brunch on the
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  weekends. Third Eye.
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  I know Esoteric does. I think Moreline Lagerhouse has
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  done it for a number of years. I went to a brunch with our good
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  friends Keith and Elizabeth and Cleveland and Liz, who we hope
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  to get on our podcast episode every day.
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  Our bubbling, You know, we all went to a brunch at Mantri
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  downtown the last time I was in town.
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  And Mantri actually opened up another location over in Summit
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  Park in the Blue Ash area not long ago where they serve
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  breakfast and like a brunch every day of the week.
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  So you're just seeing like the brewery experience with a lot of
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  breweries up in that area that are just really, really
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  expanding even more. Yeah, you know, we've talked
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  about it with with drinks at breweries and stuff and
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  something for everyone. That's maybe that's another
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  option. That's another thing.
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  It's another part of the experience.
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  As you said, you know that that was a vacation spot for us.
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  It's a vacation spot for other people, too.
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  The weather is getting nice. Yeah, we saw a lot of families
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  out that we had. All sorts of places went,
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  whether it be a Monday morning or Sunday afternoon, everybody
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  was out. So you've got to have something
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  for people to come out to, and there's a lot of places doing
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  that. Well, and I even said we'll get
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  to our brunch at Sonder here in a couple of minutes.
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  But I said. You know what?
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  Let's just start at Sonder do brunch.
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  It takes out the middleman. All you got to do from where we
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  were, all we had to do was drive north for a bit, start out
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  right. It was further out that we start
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  there and they just had a nice base.
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  We had a nice meal. Biggest egg sandwich I've ever
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  seen in my life. Delicious.
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  We'll get to that. But yes.
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  But then you got your beer and then right next, like the window
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  over is your food. It's pretty great.
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  Yeah, definitely. Well we'll we'll get into it
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  here in a minute. But I also wanted to mention
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  that while we were away and it and I think we have posted a
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  mention about this, George went passed away while we were up
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  there in Ohio. And for people that are
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  wondering, you know, who the heck is George Wet?
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  Maybe you don't know if you drink beer, you probably do.
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  You know it from Norm from Cheers.
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  And yeah, Norm passed away. And I remember that he had an
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  Ohio connection. There was the mayor of years ago
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  in Hamilton, OH, which is right between Cincinnati and Dayton.
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  His name was Greg Jolivet and he was the mayor of Hamilton.
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  His brother-in-law was George Wendt, and he brought him in one
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  time for a campaign event. I wasn't there, but a buddy of
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  mine who works up there on radio got to meet him and he actually
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  posted a picture the other day of it.
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  So yeah, there was a there's your Ohio connection with good
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  old Norm George Wendt. You know, I didn't know this
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  until literally that happened, that Jason Sudeikis is his
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  nephew. I didn't know that either.
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  He had Lasso himself. That's his nephew.
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  I learned that while we were up there.
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  So yeah, kind kind of cool. And then just a little sidebar.
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  We were at the Airbnb in Cleveland and you would turn the
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  channel on one morning and and it was like Cheers was on and we
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  just left it on for like 2 days. It was like episode 1.
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  And it just kept going right out there.
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  And it was a great thing to watch because I hadn't seen that
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  show in forever and it was kind of timely.
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  Pretty sure the first time that you and I have ever travelled
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  were actually turned on the television.
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  Turn the TV on, yeah. Turn TV on.
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  Yeah, we just had a few an hour or two to kill before we were
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  heading out that morning. So it was it was kind of a cool
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  thing. But any other notes that you
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  want to talk about, anything you want to talk about before we get
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  into our? Case question for you, so you
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  are on you are on a tour, you are currently on a West Coast
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  IPA tour. So the fact that you could take
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  a break from your tour and this podcast tonight, it is cool
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  because you know, you got to check in.
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  I know you, I know you're busy on this tour and you were part
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  of this tour in Cincinnati, but now you're off somewhere else.
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  I'm not quite sure where you are.
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  You know you're on this tour again, so just just checking in.
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  Traveling city to city. We don't know where he is right
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  now. He's on the West Coast IPA.
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  Tour look for Steve. He's not everywhere.
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  So as a general question, how is the West Coast IPA tour going?
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  The West Coast IPA tour is going pretty darn good.
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  Is that right? It is.
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  Yeah, and there's a couple of breweries that I got some West
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  Coast Ipas that we're gonna talk about in Cincinnati.
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  We're gonna get some insight into the tour.
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  I think you were there. I.
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  Think. You may have witnessed it.
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  I didn't know what was going to come out in this episode.
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  So we're going to get some, we can get some bits and pieces of
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  the tour. OK, We're.
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  Going to get we're going to get some insight on some of the West
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  Coast Ipas that I rated. It may have rated pretty high at
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  certain breweries. Yeah.
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  Yep, what I what I saw there's been a progression in this West
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  Coast IPA tour of of the stuff you've been drinking.
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  So I'm. Telling you it's a good thing,
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  it's a good. Thing so it's good alright.
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  Ready. Ready to kind of get into what
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  we did up there, my friend. Let's go.
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  It's taken me 3 days to put in all the shit we've done.
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  We've got them down. I'm ready.
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  Let's go. I, I know I had to do like a
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  book report cuz I had to go back into my untapped app the last
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  couple days. You saw me raiding other beers
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  and like, what's going on here? And I'm like, cuz I forgot.
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  I mean, I get caught. I get caught up in, you know,
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  the moments of drinking the beer at breweries and the
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  conversation and taking pictures and having a lot of laughs and
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  seeing people that sometimes you go, heck, I forgot to rate this
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  particular beer. By the way, another quick note,
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  after this trip that we've just took, we've been ready to talk
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  about your untapped numbers have skyrocketed.
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  Well, they're not on your level. Not even.
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  Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
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  My point is you are getting very close my friend to 1000 unique
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  check insurance and I think you're over 950 and you've
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  picked up a few that you drank and that you remember to put in
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  there. So you are on a short term track
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  to 1000. You are going to be there very,
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  very soon. If we took another trip like
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  this next week, you'd be there in three days.
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  I'd be there soon, yeah. You'd be there soon.
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  But anyway, all eyes on Steve as he approaches his one thousandth
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  unique check in. This won't be the last you hear
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  about it. Well, and to to those of you
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  that have a lot more, it's probably not that that
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  impressive, but I'll let you talk it up my friend, as much as
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  you want. Well, it is because I remember
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  going to my 1000. Thousand's a big freaking number
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  and you get a special badge for it.
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  So I'm excited for you to get that 1000.
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  Especially since I was late to the party over the years of
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  actually rating beers so. You know.
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  Now you're at the point. Now you're at the point where
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  you go back when you after the trip and find the beers you
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  forgot to rate that you drank. So I I love that.
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  I mean, we're, we're recording this like four or five days
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  after we got back and even last night I'm sitting there going,
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  oh gosh, I forgot another one. Steve's taking him beers in my
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  temp. I go this.
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  Did he go back? He had to go back.
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  That's my way to go back to mesh, yeah.
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  That's why I go in. That's why I go in and I take
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  pictures of the. Board.
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  And I take pictures of my flight most of the time.
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  It doesn't always happen, but most of the time that we try to
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  do that or, or whatever I'm drinking, whether it's a flight
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  or a pint or you know, 1/2 pour or whatever it is.
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  So yeah. Well, anyway, at this point
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  every beer counts because again, you're less than 50 away from
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  1000. So awesome, awesome.
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  We'll. Get there soon.
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  We're going to get there soon. All right.
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  Well, the day we went out there was Friday, May the 16th, and it
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  was a, it was kind of a crazy day because the theme of this
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  trip, especially the theme we'll get really get into it on the
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  Cleveland trip was a lot of rain.
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  And that should come as no surprise because it seems like
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  everybody that's either lived in Nashville or lived in Ohio or
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  lived everywhere. All it's been doing for the past
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  couple of weeks is rain. I mean, it's just been like rain
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  non-stop. And we encountered a lot of rain
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  on our way up like through Louisville and or Louisville.
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  How are you pronouncing now? I'm going to become more talking
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  about that city in Kentucky, the host the Kentucky Derby there.
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  We. Go.
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  There we go. There we go.
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  We were. We were actually wondering if
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  they were going to get the Reds game in on that Friday because
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  there was like some really, really bad weather that was
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  coming. It didn't look good.
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  It did not. It did not.
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  It did not look good. So we got up there and of
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  course, you know, we always, most of the time I have to
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  christen every trip with a kick off of Skyline Chili, probably
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  for lunch, which we did. Which I'm on board with, by the
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  way. I didn't know.
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  For the record, I'm on board when we go up that way.
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  I look forward to that first Skyline Chili stop.
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  I had even mentioned like, you know, if we're if we're pressed
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  for time, we can we can like skip the Skyline Chili and just
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  go there another time like at the ballpark and.
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  Go a bit. Yeah.
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  And you were like, no, absolutely.
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  Not no, no, no, no. We can't have that hanging over
• 18:45
  our head the whole trip. We can't.
• 18:48
  We can't. You know, it's funny though, I
• 18:50
  thought about this. I have checked off a lot of
• 18:52
  Skyline Chili locations in Cincinnati.
• 18:55
  This was a new Skyline Chili location for me in Erlanger, KY,
• 19:00
  which is probably a 10 or 15 minutes from downtown
• 19:03
  Cincinnati. So hey man.
• 19:05
  You know, shout out. To the folks at Skyline Chili in
• 19:08
  Erlanger. Great little spot, we took a
• 19:10
  little longer to get there than our normal Skyline Chili spot,
• 19:13
  but well worth it because of the spot that went afterwards where
• 19:16
  we went. It was well worth it.
• 19:17
  Yeah, definitely. We got the skyline.
• 19:21
  I got a text message on my phone as soon as we got the skyline
• 19:24
  that the Reds game have been moved up 90 minutes.
• 19:28
  And we? Already knew that we were going
• 19:30
  to be a little bit pressed for time to try to get in things.
• 19:32
  We wanted to get in. And then, you know, it was like,
• 19:34
  OK, what's our game plan now? Because the game was gonna be at
• 19:40
  6:40. They moved it up to 510.
• 19:43
  Well, the reason we went to Erlanger was because a last
• 19:47
  minute addition that we had on our trip a couple days
• 19:50
  beforehand. I went on, I went, wait a
• 19:52
  minute, I know of this place called Fabled Brew Works.
• 19:56
  Yeah. Which has been open now it's a
• 20:00
  time we're recording and I think I recording this, I think
• 20:02
  they're about to celebrate two years in existence.
• 20:06
  Yep. And it just hasn't worked out
• 20:09
  timing wise to get up there because a lot of times if we've
• 20:12
  gone up during the week or I've gone up separately, they've not
• 20:16
  been open yet or maybe I've just not been able to get there.
• 20:19
  So they opened up early on a Friday and we got there.
• 20:24
  I think we may have been the first ones there.
• 20:27
  It was in the afternoon. It was probably, you know about
• 20:29
  1 thirty 2:00 in the afternoon and Scott describe fable brew
• 20:34
  works. OK.
• 20:35
  We posted pictures on Instagram, we put some videos up.
• 20:39
  So the word fabled has a purpose.
• 20:42
  It's like fables and tales and stories and things.
• 20:46
  And the whole theme is that like if you see the pictures on our
• 20:51
  Instagram, like there are clouds in the sky and they have
• 20:54
  lightning in and it tells a story.
• 20:56
  And then there's like a there are a couple like cottages
• 20:59
  coming out from the walls that are built out.
• 21:01
  There's there's a, a, a hollowed out tree behind the bar with
• 21:06
  this big kind of opening and, and everything is kind of fairy
• 21:09
  tale, not fairy tale. The stories.
• 21:11
  It's, it's, yeah, fables, you know, like Aesop's fables, that
• 21:14
  kind of thing. And it is so cool.
• 21:17
  Everything. The theme is like all the beer
• 21:20
  names are around those. There are things like BA
• 21:25
  Alakazam, A Nightmare on Elmore St. like everything ties into
• 21:29
  this theme. Steve I went to the bathroom and
• 21:32
  I didn't get pictures because I didn't bring my phone in.
• 21:34
  The wallpaper was pages of books.
• 21:38
  OK. With plastered, that was the
• 21:40
  wallpaper and they're like every single thing in there had a
• 21:43
  story or a fable theme to it. It was amazing, was it not?
• 21:48
  It was unlike any brewery that I've ever been to as far as
• 21:53
  uniqueness and as you say, the story aspect of it.
• 21:56
  And the other thing I did not realize, I'd only been on their
• 21:59
  website like once or twice before we had gone there.
• 22:03
  And so I'd asked a moment when I got there.
• 22:06
  I said, OK, did you guys start out serving crack beer and Mead
• 22:12
  or was it, was it always that way?
• 22:14
  And he said, yeah, it was. So the thing that caught my
• 22:17
  attention was, and again, somebody correct me if I'm
• 22:20
  wrong, after you hear this podcast, I am not currently
• 22:24
  aware of another brewery up there that does craft beer and
• 22:28
  Mead together that has those options.
• 22:32
  I do know there's a meetery called All Fathers that's
• 22:36
  opening nearby in Melbourne, KY. And at the time we're recording
• 22:39
  this, it's about to open or maybe open, but I don't know.
• 22:43
  And I did, you know, I did a little bit of search.
• 22:47
  I just couldn't find any other places up there that you can get
• 22:52
  Mead at other breweries. There probably are.
• 22:55
  I'm just not aware of them. So that was that was, that was
• 22:58
  an interesting kind of hook to go in there because we, you
• 23:02
  know, we talked about the honey tree meatery in Nashville and
• 23:06
  how we've come to love that. So that was a that was an
• 23:09
  interesting start to our brewery adventure.
• 23:12
  It was and if you know you'd, and I know you know the me that
• 23:16
  honey tree has yeah, versus the Mead that fable has.
• 23:21
  Like fables were more of A and matter of fact, some had ice
• 23:23
  cream kind of in the recipe. So they were like more of a
• 23:27
  fruited sour type Meads. Yeah, versus the Mead we're used
• 23:30
  to in a honey tree or more of just that wine style.
• 23:34
  And it's not a great description, but they don't have
• 23:36
  that, those added adjuncts or whatever.
• 23:39
  But there were fruited sours at Fables, so completely different,
• 23:42
  you wouldn't even know there were me's, honestly, unless you
• 23:44
  told me that they were right. Phenomenal.
• 23:47
  I mean, the place was great. I mean, we had a peanut butter
• 23:50
  and Jelly. Now that wasn't the ME, that was
• 23:52
  one of the ales, but they had a peanut butter and Jelly on the
• 23:54
  menu. They did the Wicked Witch grape
• 23:58
  sour fruited, which I really loved.
• 24:01
  I rated that a 4.25 on the old untapped app.
• 24:06
  And I'll tell you, you know, I had that.
• 24:08
  I had a couple of their their beers as well.
• 24:10
  I had the Paul Bunyan American Lager and also had their red
• 24:15
  right hand, which is a red ale, and then the other and the other
• 24:19
  Mead. We had a couple.
• 24:21
  We tried a couple other things, but the one that was wild for me
• 24:25
  that I absolutely love now I like coconut and beer.
• 24:29
  I'd never had coconut, coconut and a Mead before.
• 24:31
  And this one was called the Curious Coconut.
• 24:35
  In fact, Tom and the Hill Tappers, they kind of followed
• 24:39
  us in the next day and he's like, you know, we're going to
• 24:42
  hit some of the breweries where you hit and they, I think
• 24:44
  they've been to Fable before. And he had it and I loved it.
• 24:48
  I mean, I rated that thing a 4.5 O out on time.
• 24:51
  I was like this thing it had. It was a combination of like
• 24:56
  coconut and banana. I mean, I absolutely loved it.
• 25:00
  Now I, I, I say this and I've said this before with sweet
• 25:05
  beers, I would not have anything like that other than on a
• 25:08
  flight. You couldn't.
• 25:12
  I mean, if you Can you imagine sitting there drinking a pint of
• 25:14
  that stuff, you'd be there for two hours.
• 25:16
  No. In fact, I have a story that's
• 25:18
  coming up about how it impacted me about an hour later or so.
• 25:22
  But anyway, continue Sir, on Yeah, on your on on what you
• 25:28
  what you got there at that. Baby.
• 25:29
  Well, so that, that, so remember we got the, I think both of us
• 25:32
  got that PB and J right out of the gate.
• 25:34
  Yeah. And he came back a little bit
• 25:37
  later and he gave us another pour of it.
• 25:39
  It was the same exact one. Yeah.
• 25:41
  But what he had done, he he had kind of mixed it, I guess mixed
• 25:44
  the keg up a little bit because the first one we had, it kind of
• 25:47
  settled all night. Yeah.
• 25:48
  And it kind of mixed it up and gave us another pour of it so we
• 25:51
  could try it side by side. And there definitely was a
• 25:53
  little bit of a difference. I think we've got a little more
• 25:54
  balance the second time just because it hadn't, it was a
• 25:57
  little more mixed, obviously. So that was cool.
• 26:00
  And he gave us a sample, I don't know if you remember this one
• 26:04
  rocking the Rainbow Rd., which is I think is a Mario Kart
• 26:09
  tribute with the Rainbow Rd. track, which is a fruited Burr
• 26:13
  liner with rainbow sherbert in it.
• 26:17
  And it was freaking amazing. 4.3 on on tap.
• 26:20
  It was freaking killer. Like you drink.
• 26:23
  It's everything it says it is. It's it's great stuff.
• 26:26
  It's really great stuff dude. I would tell anybody and I think
• 26:30
  Hill Tappers kind of told us, hey, you guys at some point have
• 26:33
  to get to Fabled. I'm going to say the same thing.
• 26:35
  Get to Fabled. It's amazing.
• 26:37
  Oh my gosh, you would absolutely love it.
• 26:40
  Yeah, if you don't want the, if you don't want that fruit and
• 26:42
  sour stuff, they've got other stuff.
• 26:43
  They got New England IP as I got, I had a pale ale, they got
• 26:45
  a red ale. You you can get various things.
• 26:48
  We just tried kind of everything.
• 26:50
  Yeah. And then I also had the Don
• 26:53
  Schrader, which was another Mead.
• 26:55
  And so I was like going mean crazy there.
• 26:58
  And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to try this.
• 27:00
  So it had, I had like strawberries and oranges and
• 27:03
  like passion fruit in it wasn't I liked it.
• 27:07
  I think after some of those other ones, the whole thing kind
• 27:10
  of reminded me last year. Remember we went to the melted
• 27:13
  snow cone kind of collaboration at at Southern Grist when they
• 27:18
  had that and we all tried like 3 or 4 back-to-back.
• 27:21
  And after a while, I was like, whoa, OK.
• 27:24
  Yeah, they're heavy. You certainly can't see through
• 27:27
  them. Like, there's definitely like
• 27:29
  Puree and that one rainbow Sherwood.
• 27:31
  Like it looks like that stuff is in there, and it is.
• 27:34
  And they're delicious. But man, you can only take so
• 27:37
  much. We can only take so much, but we
• 27:39
  had we had such a great time. Yeah, at Fable the only thing
• 27:44
  was. Yeah, great service to the
• 27:46
  bartender. Forgive me, I forgot his name.
• 27:48
  Man, he was nice to us. And he was like, here try this
• 27:50
  and try this. And we just started talking.
• 27:51
  And just like you go anywhere and you start talking beer with
• 27:54
  someone, man, you start speaking the language and people just
• 27:56
  warm up to you. And it's just a great time.
• 27:58
  Yeah, extremely knowledgeable about the the whole scene and,
• 28:02
  and Cincinnati and the beer scene and the brewery scene.
• 28:04
  And we had a great time. And, you know, time, though, was
• 28:08
  not on our side because we were like, OK, we were there for
• 28:11
  probably an hour. Kind of unusual for us to stay
• 28:14
  anywhere for an hour. But you know what?
• 28:17
  We went to a place where we went, we were even at.
• 28:20
  We went to the next place. It was even less than an hour.
• 28:23
  Yeah, well, we had to, we, we left there.
• 28:24
  We had to go drop our stuff at the Airbnb.
• 28:26
  So we got rid of our stuff, we got all that shit done and then
• 28:29
  continue. Yeah.
• 28:30
  Yes, yeah. So we got to the Airbnb, we're
• 28:33
  Ubering and I mean, I'm looking at like traffic and I'm going,
• 28:37
  are we going to get there? Are we going to get there?
• 28:39
  So the original plan was they hit town, we were going to hit
• 28:42
  fabled. And then we thought, you know,
• 28:45
  we'll have plenty of time to kick off the pregame activities
• 28:50
  at Rhinegeist, one of our favorite.
• 28:52
  Breweries, yeah. Hang out as long as we want.
• 28:55
  Hang out on the rooftop. We'll have about two to two and
• 28:58
  a half, three hours. Plenty of time shit, no rush.
• 29:04
  Scott, what happened? What happened?
• 29:06
  OK, So we had to kind of plan it because it was like, all right,
• 29:10
  we kind of knew. We don't have a lot of time, but
• 29:11
  we are going to Rhinegeist and we still had to get to the
• 29:14
  ballpark, yes, which we knew we weren't driving to.
• 29:16
  So OK, so the best way, really the most efficient way to get to
• 29:18
  the ballpark from, well, from Rhine Geist ultimately is the
• 29:22
  tram. So the tram because it parked,
• 29:25
  it's literally parks up, goes up front.
• 29:26
  So but so yes, we went to Rhine Geist after that.
• 29:29
  We knew we would be limited on time.
• 29:32
  We had at least one beer. We had one beer.
• 29:34
  So limited. So limited that I looked at the
• 29:38
  clock and it was around 4:00 when we got in and the game was
• 29:42
  at 5:10 and we got our beer. I got the Sensei light lime,
• 29:47
  which I really loved, and it's about 4:25 and I said, man, I
• 29:52
  don't think we have time for another, especially if we're
• 29:55
  taking the lovely. Streetcar.
• 29:57
  That's right. And The thing is like there's no
• 30:00
  time. It's not like it comes in 412
• 30:02
  every day. It's every so often, right?
• 30:05
  It's you don't even know when the last time was.
• 30:06
  It's roughly, no, it's game time.
• 30:08
  No, the games. I moved up and I was like, oh,
• 30:10
  we got time for one more. And luckily I listened to you
• 30:13
  and we, we cashed out. We went outside and what was it?
• 30:15
  3 minutes later we could hear the bell.
• 30:17
  We heard the the bell coming like, Oh yeah, this worked out
• 30:20
  perfect. So we caught the tram.
• 30:22
  Well, in the in the streetcar, I think it's the furthest point,
• 30:26
  that's how far up, so. For for people aren't.
• 30:29
  Familiar the Cincinnati streetcar.
• 30:32
  You'd like to call it the Trolley Trolley.
• 30:34
  Whatever you want, I'll call it four or five different things
• 30:37
  before this is. Over the free transportation
• 30:39
  that gets you around. Yes, Sir.
• 30:41
  Yeah, it takes you around basically a couple of couple of
• 30:44
  points in Cincinnati, like down that what they call the banks,
• 30:48
  you know, by the ballpark up near Over The Rhine where Rhine
• 30:51
  Geist is. But it's sort of a the further
• 30:54
  point. I really wish we had had a
• 30:57
  camera. We well, we had a camera.
• 30:59
  We're taking pictures, but we should have videotaped our, our
• 31:02
  experience on the trolley because there were jokes for
• 31:05
  days. After all that meat that I had,
• 31:08
  I started going in. I'm sitting there going, I think
• 31:10
  I might be going into a bit of a small dive in a coma here on
• 31:14
  the, on the trolley. It really wasn't that big of a
• 31:15
  deal, but it was sort of funny. And I remember sitting on the
• 31:18
  trolley and I'm thinking to myself, you know, this trolley,
• 31:22
  it, it stops like every 200 feet.
• 31:26
  Can we get out and push the single bit?
• 31:28
  Further. There's a couple of spots along
• 31:31
  the way you can walk faster than the trolley.
• 31:34
  You can walk fast on the trolley.
• 31:35
  And a few spots, yeah. But you know what?
• 31:37
  We love the trolley, it's the second year that we've they've
• 31:41
  taken in. So the best part about it
• 31:43
  though, when you get there, it does let you off a block down
• 31:46
  from the ballpark. So you can't you can't park as
• 31:48
  easily. Even the Uber we've we've Uber
• 31:50
  down there before and you're still walking further away
• 31:53
  because they can't get to the damn thing.
• 31:54
  So the ride their side, which actually wasn't as bad this time
• 31:59
  because the game had got moved up and a lot of people couldn't
• 32:01
  make the tram because they couldn't get there on time.
• 32:03
  It wasn't as busy, but it does stop every 200 feet it.
• 32:07
  Does. But it but it, but it lets you
• 32:09
  off, I mean, almost at the front door.
• 32:11
  So I mean, it's, it's, it's pretty hard to be any more
• 32:13
  efficient than that. No, it's a fun ride.
• 32:16
  It's a fun time down. No, we didn't take it back.
• 32:18
  We didn't. Take it back.
• 32:21
  But we made it. We made it just in time for the
• 32:25
  Reds game and. It was actually perfect, Steve.
• 32:28
  We walked in at like 5:00. We walked in the yeah, we did
• 32:30
  o'clock. So we were great.
• 32:32
  Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did.
• 32:33
  So, so we went to the Reds game and I'll just mention this real
• 32:37
  quick. So the Reds game, as you know, I
• 32:40
  mentioned this last year on the podcast, we do one of the
• 32:43
  reasons we go up there and I go up there, as we do, my family
• 32:46
  and I, we do a Reds outing every year at the Great American
• 32:49
  Ballpark. We do it for my brother Mike,
• 32:51
  who passed away about 11 years ago.
• 32:54
  And we, my cousins and I, we always get together and we
• 32:57
  remember him. Mike Sullivan safe at home,
• 33:00
  night at the ballpark and it was a great time, of course.
• 33:03
  And my cousin Kevin is the ringleader.
• 33:05
  And thanks, Kevin. We love.
• 33:07
  Yeah. Thanks, Kevin.
• 33:08
  I always loved. Kevin up with the tickets.
• 33:10
  Hey, he he looks up with tickets and then wants to buy his beer
• 33:13
  when we get in there, like, hey man, let us buy you a beer.
• 33:16
  What's to buy his beer? The the bad thing that night was
• 33:19
  there were supposed to be about 16 of my cousins that were gonna
• 33:22
  come, but half the ballpark was empty because, you know, they
• 33:25
  had to move the game up. A lot.
• 33:28
  A lot. Earlier and so some of my
• 33:30
  cousins came a little bit later in the game.
• 33:33
  Some of them couldn't make it. I mean, one of my cousins came
• 33:35
  and it was like, you know, 7th inning because they had hit,
• 33:39
  they lived up in Mason. They were trying to come into
• 33:41
  town and hit some traffic and things like that.
• 33:43
  It was still a, it was still good nights out of my brother.
• 33:46
  So that was, you know, that was a lot of fun.
• 33:49
  The Reds won that night. They did.
• 33:51
  The Reds, yeah. First of three of that series.
• 33:56
  I know. Beat the Cleveland Indians.
• 33:59
  You don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati.
• 34:02
  That's. That was Sam Whites, right?
• 34:07
  Was that Sam? Whites.
• 34:08
  Yeah, there you go. Exactly.
• 34:10
  Now we had a fun time and the cool thing was Great American
• 34:14
  Ballpark up there, they do have a lot of great beer on tap.
• 34:18
  And that was my first check in of the Great Lakes Midwest Hazy
• 34:23
  IPA, which is a which is fairly new beer.
• 34:27
  And of course we're gonna be talking about Great Lakes on our
• 34:30
  next podcast. We still got.
• 34:32
  Something. Out there about Great Lakes, a
• 34:34
  little petition Dr. that people need to sign, right?
• 34:37
  Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make a push on that reel in the
• 34:39
  next episode really hard. That's right.
• 34:42
  Sign it for us, people sign it for us.
• 34:44
  But no, that was that was great. You know, I did have another
• 34:47
  beer that night and I don't remember what it was.
• 34:51
  And I. I don't either, I'm the same way
• 34:53
  now. Now I had another beer that
• 34:55
  night at the game. I just don't.
• 34:56
  I just don't even remember what it was and I didn't take
• 35:00
  pictures or. Anything like that so.
• 35:01
  Well, I, I can guarantee because it's the same for me.
• 35:04
  It wasn't a new one. So you know, you can rate it,
• 35:06
  but it wouldn't, it would help your numbers necessarily.
• 35:08
  So I'm with, I just had the one, but I had the same thing.
• 35:12
  I had the Hazy Midwest IPA, too, which was pretty great, Pretty
• 35:14
  damn great. That was the first place I had
• 35:16
  had. It was great.
• 35:16
  American Ballpark. Yeah.
• 35:18
  Continue on with the game. Because right after the game was
• 35:21
  over, because all this weather was going to move in, what
• 35:24
  happened immediately after the game was over?
• 35:27
  Because it was a Friday night, and what happens on Friday
• 35:29
  nights after? The oh, they have fireworks and
• 35:32
  I think the game ended. It was probably at about maybe
• 35:35
  7:30 because I even said, I mean, we were talking about it's
• 35:38
  like the, you know, the the umpires are going to get this
• 35:41
  game over. The managers aren't going to go
• 35:43
  out and argue any calls. There's not going to be any
• 35:46
  pitching changes. They're getting this game over
• 35:48
  with. Because by the time it looked
• 35:51
  like it was probably 738 o'clock, you could tell there
• 35:55
  was a sea of clouds coming into downtown Cincinnati.
• 35:59
  And wind was picking up. It looked, it looked like it was
• 36:03
  gonna ravage hell on the weather.
• 36:06
  And as soon as the game ended, man, those fireworks went off.
• 36:11
  I mean, I'm not even sure the the they called whatever it is,
• 36:15
  you know, they've called strike three or whatever and the
• 36:18
  fireworks you're going off and it's like good night everybody.
• 36:20
  We're out of here, so. Not only are they going off,
• 36:22
  it's still broad daylight. It's broad daylight.
• 36:27
  This is the funniest part of the thing.
• 36:28
  But hey man, people stuck around to watch them.
• 36:30
  People did not leave until those fireworks were done.
• 36:33
  No, but great call because we have sat there before.
• 36:36
  There's nothing worse than sitting at a baseball ballpark
• 36:40
  and you have a rain delay that goes on for hours and hours and
• 36:44
  hours. So.
• 36:45
  Which which if they hadn't moved it up, which looked like it was
• 36:47
  going to happen, they would have got, they would have started the
• 36:48
  game on time, I think, but middle of the way weather would
• 36:52
  have broke it or lightning or something, right?
• 36:54
  And the delay and then you're stuck there.
• 36:57
  The game got in and we were we were all the better for it.
• 37:00
  That's right. They got the game in.
• 37:01
  So we got out of there and we set, we we went to seek refuge
• 37:06
  and one of our places down there at a Yard House.
• 37:10
  I mean, we so did everybody else.
• 37:12
  And we just, we went down there. We're like, you know what, let's
• 37:14
  not even try to bother Ubering anybody, any anywhere right now.
• 37:18
  Let's just go about 100 yards down the way, run in the Yard
• 37:22
  House, sitting there for a while and never actually did storm in
• 37:26
  that area. I mean, there was a lot of bad
• 37:28
  weather. I think that went S Cincinnati.
• 37:30
  We got pretty lucky that night. We kind of ended the night at
• 37:33
  Yard House. We did, we did.
• 37:35
  And I remember talking to the staff in there and I kind of
• 37:37
  asked her about the whole, because a lot of times we
• 37:40
  pregame at Yard House, we did not this time, obviously, but I
• 37:42
  said what, what? What does the moving up the game
• 37:44
  do for you guys? And then he said that kind of
• 37:46
  sucks because they don't have staff ready to come on at, you
• 37:51
  know, for a 510 game. So they got real busy ahead of
• 37:53
  time. They were real busy afterwards.
• 37:55
  So they're kind of playing catch up the whole time.
• 37:56
  But hey, they did a great job. We love Yard House.
• 37:58
  We got taken care of and they did.
• 38:00
  They kicked ass. They always do.
• 38:02
  And yeah, we always appreciate them.
• 38:04
  And you can't beat the location from the ballpark.
• 38:06
  Yes, absolutely. Well the the theme of the whole
• 38:10
  day after we got done was a few things, but the biggest was can
• 38:15
  we really only go to run guys for only 1/2 hour?
• 38:20
  Should we leave them in suspense and see if we ever got back?
• 38:23
  Did we ever go back there? We went back.
• 38:26
  OK, spoiler, we went back. Spoiler Can we go with keep not?
• 38:30
  Directly. But it's coming, yeah.
• 38:32
  It's we actually go back. Well, the other funny thing was
• 38:35
  I said of all the times I've been up there for anything,
• 38:38
  whether I've gone up there and you know, I'm like visiting
• 38:40
  family and I'm in a hurry. I don't know if there's ever a
• 38:44
  brewery that I've gone to even when I've been in a hurry that
• 38:46
  I've only lasted 1/2 hour. And of all places, it's like how
• 38:50
  many people can say they went to Orangie, she only went in there
• 38:53
  for 1/2 hour and you got to get the hell out of here.
• 38:56
  The way I look at them, it was a it was a bonus stop.
• 39:00
  We knew we're going to spend time there eventually.
• 39:02
  We we got a bonus stop. We snuck in one more is kind of
• 39:05
  how I'm looking at it. Yeah.
• 39:07
  And we had, if we didn't go back, I'd have been like, shit,
• 39:09
  we only got Rodgers once, but you know, we, we snuck another
• 39:13
  one in along the way. We did.
• 39:15
  We did. That's how I'm looking at it.
• 39:17
  So yeah, it was a, it was a pretty awesome day, you know, on
• 39:21
  that Friday. And then, you know, Saturday we
• 39:23
  got up and we had the the plan. I always love this plan because
• 39:28
  we were gonna go and we're gonna go to a Reds game on that
• 39:31
  Saturday night. And this was May 17th.
• 39:34
  And I always think like the Northern Kentucky Loop, kind of
• 39:38
  the South Loop, so to speak, is a really great area because
• 39:41
  there are so many breweries. Over.
• 39:43
  There you've got Braxton, you got W 6, you got Darkness,
• 39:47
  you've got Wooden cask Hopper House.
• 39:50
  I mean, I'm probably not even mentioning everything, but it is
• 39:54
  a bounty of options. And there was even a crab beer
• 39:59
  festival down the street, Braxton, that we didn't even go
• 40:04
  to, but we knew about when we got up there.
• 40:07
  Yeah, because we had other things to do.
• 40:10
  Yeah. And I say better things to do
• 40:13
  because we're going to the breweries directly, so, you
• 40:16
  know. Well, that's true.
• 40:17
  Do I love, you know, do I love Beer Fest?
• 40:20
  And of course I do, you know, I live for that.
• 40:22
  But fuck, when you go to the damn brewery directly, it's
• 40:25
  like, let's just go do that. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:29
  you're beer fest. That's great.
• 40:30
  You know, yeah, our, our whole goal today is brewery.
• 40:35
  So we're going. To brewery, it's good to source,
• 40:36
  right? And and so you mentioned so
• 40:38
  Braxton, we go to Braxton first on that Saturday right after
• 40:41
  breakfast, which was press on Monmouth, by the way.
• 40:43
  We always like that place. Love it.
• 40:45
  Yeah. Uh huh.
• 40:46
  But we go to Braxton first, because you know what we love
• 40:49
  about Braxton, Steve? Braxton in Covington, they've
• 40:52
  got that rooftop. Yes they do.
• 40:55
  And yes, we score all day long on the Braxton rooftop.
• 41:00
  Anytime we can ever go there, we can.
• 41:02
  And the first thing I noticed when we're walking in the door,
• 41:05
  I said, you know what, the last, the last since the last time I
• 41:08
  was here and last time you were there.
• 41:11
  It's more spacious outside now. I mean, they've got a lot of
• 41:14
  comfortable chairs out there and everything else and.
• 41:17
  You're talking about right in the front when you walk in the.
• 41:19
  Front, Yeah, and I don't know. If they've if they just expanded
• 41:22
  that and they just started doing it probably because the place is
• 41:25
  always crowded. So you know, we get in there and
• 41:28
  we got up on the rooftop. I will say on this day it was a
• 41:32
  little more windy than usual. It's a good thing that I don't
• 41:35
  wear a toupee or anything like that because by God, my toupee
• 41:40
  would have blown off that day on the rooftop.
• 41:43
  Yeah, Yeah, it was, it was windy.
• 41:45
  Still a beautiful day otherwise. There were some benefits to the
• 41:49
  windy. We'll just leave that alone.
• 41:53
  But we saw. See what you did there.
• 41:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:56
  When I was making notes about this today, see, I was
• 41:58
  remembering we are always one of the first people at Braxton when
• 42:03
  we go, Every time we go, we are one of the first people in the
• 42:06
  we're always there, right around when they open.
• 42:09
  Yeah, it seems like it works out that way.
• 42:10
  You know, I think we're. There, I think they open about
• 42:12
  11. We got there probably between
• 42:15
  11:30 and noon. Yeah, a handful of people were
• 42:19
  kind of right, and we had her pick a spots up on the rooftop,
• 42:22
  which were great, and it filled in quite a bit right afterwards.
• 42:26
  It looked like there were a lot of graduation parties or
• 42:28
  something going on and it filled in quite a bit up there.
• 42:30
  Everybody had the same idea we did.
• 42:32
  Yeah. Again, aside from the wind, it
• 42:34
  was a beautiful day and a great way to start the day just up on
• 42:37
  a rooftop. And every time I go, and I tell
• 42:39
  you this, every time I go, and I'm going to do it one day, I
• 42:41
  want to take a nap up there. I just.
• 42:44
  Want to take a nap on it for for 30 or 40 minutes on the Braxton
• 42:48
  rooftop? Yeah, I they're, they're right
• 42:51
  next to there. There's some condos and I always
• 42:53
  think that maybe that would be like the perfect place.
• 42:55
  If you're working from home or something that somebody comes in
• 42:59
  and you're, you're working from your condo.
• 43:02
  You could just walk up there and sit in there, sit in one of the
• 43:05
  lounge chairs and just, you know, do us off.
• 43:08
  I know, you know, and they got music going right.
• 43:09
  And, you know, those days we've been up there, there's been
• 43:11
  nobody there. And we sit there like, it's just
• 43:13
  a nice and beautiful day. It's like 72.
• 43:15
  The music's in the background and like, it's just quiet.
• 43:18
  Like just give me a hammock. It'll be hammock.
• 43:20
  Let me just sit here. Yeah, Yeah, I know.
• 43:23
  So there was I I got I got a flight from this place.
• 43:27
  And you know what? I did get a West Coast lager on
• 43:30
  my flight. All right.
• 43:32
  OK. Now.
• 43:34
  Wasn't my favorite of the entire trip, but it was pretty good.
• 43:38
  They're classic West Coast lager, so I got that.
• 43:41
  The other one I want to talk about was, you know, Braxton.
• 43:45
  They usually do each year collab A graders ice cream.
• 43:49
  Last year they did that lemon meringue pie which was off the
• 43:51
  charts fantastic for me. Spectacular.
• 43:54
  Yeah. When I saw the one that they had
• 43:59
  on tap, I had to go. I had to ask the guy that was
• 44:02
  working there. And I'm like, so this would have
• 44:04
  been even way before I started raiding my beers.
• 44:07
  And I think this was their very first collab that they ever did.
• 44:10
  It's graters, black Raspberry, chocolate chip milk styles.
• 44:13
  I remember the first time I had it, I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm
• 44:18
  not sure about this. And I was wondering what it
• 44:24
  would, what would be like again after a few years, you know, did
• 44:27
  they do anything different, anything like that?
• 44:30
  Now I will have to say of the greatest collabs that I've had,
• 44:35
  not my most favorite one. I liked it.
• 44:38
  I could taste more of the, you know, the black Raspberry didn't
• 44:43
  taste as much of the chocolate in there.
• 44:45
  Little bit of the ice cream. Not sure if I saw it again I
• 44:50
  would necessarily go back for it, but I'm glad I got it.
• 44:53
  Yeah. And I think you were in that,
• 44:55
  that mindset of, hey, let's see if it's any different, if it's
• 44:58
  better, worse, do it. Do I think anything different is
• 45:01
  my palate change, any of that kind of stuff?
• 45:03
  It was kind of the same for you, right?
• 45:04
  It didn't nothing didn't get better, didn't get worse, or
• 45:06
  just kind of the same as as you'd had before.
• 45:09
  I think I think I liked it a little bit more than I.
• 45:11
  Did a little more OK. Yeah, Yeah.
• 45:13
  I would say it is slightly better than the first time I had
• 45:16
  it, but that's going back probably, gosh, probably 7 or 8
• 45:20
  years ago was the first time. I had, I remember us talking to
• 45:23
  an Uber driver about it one of the first times I was about he
• 45:26
  didn't have a big opinion on it either.
• 45:28
  But yeah, yeah, I didn't get it this time.
• 45:30
  I thought about getting it. I just, I just stuck with pints
• 45:33
  on this this particular trip. But yeah, when they said nothing
• 45:36
  had really changed, I was like maybe another time or something.
• 45:39
  So yeah, some other things they had.
• 45:41
  But I'll tell you, one that I really liked was their they had
• 45:43
  a check logger. It's called Check this out Dad.
• 45:45
  Yeah. Phenomenal.
• 45:47
  I did 2 loggers. I think I did that same West
• 45:49
  Coast logger you did that check and then like a Belgian blonde
• 45:52
  or something. I just did pints.
• 45:54
  But man, it's just you could drink.
• 45:56
  I won't say you could drink Miller Lite on that rooftop, but
• 45:59
  cuz I wouldn't. But to be on that rooftop just
• 46:02
  that's another level of the experience, right?
• 46:06
  Just. Depending on the company I would
• 46:08
  drink a Miller Lite on that roofop.
• 46:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be really good company,
• 46:13
  but yeah. That'd be a really good company.
• 46:15
  My first question to her would be, do you have a beach house?
• 46:17
  OK. I will no, she would have
• 46:19
  already had to have had the beach house for the drinking.
• 46:21
  Miller Yeah, exactly. I would drink a Miller Lite with
• 46:23
  you on the Braxton roof top. Absolutely.
• 46:27
  So my point is just ultimately just anything you add anything
• 46:30
  to that rooftop just makes it better.
• 46:32
  I mean, it's just, it's just a great experience, so.
• 46:34
  Anyway, yeah, no, I had the check this out dad with Braxton
• 46:38
  too. And it was, it was really good.
• 46:41
  So yeah, we spent a couple hours there on the old Braxton rooftop
• 46:45
  and they were actually by the time we got, we went on to our
• 46:48
  our, our second brewery of the day.
• 46:50
  It was probably about two 2:30 and it was starting to get
• 46:52
  really crowded up there. So it was, it's not surprising
• 46:55
  though. I mean, I think, you know, we've
• 46:58
  been there before later in the evening.
• 47:00
  It's been a while. But man, I think if you go over
• 47:02
  there, it probably especially during the summer months, you
• 47:06
  know, the warmer months, if you go over there, probably, you
• 47:09
  know, 7-8 o'clock on a Saturday night, man, good luck.
• 47:12
  I mean, it's trying to find a spot there, so.
• 47:15
  Yeah, yeah, it's hopping. I mean, you get food there, too,
• 47:18
  so it just adds to the whole thing and it draws people in,
• 47:22
  you know? Yeah.
• 47:23
  And I know you're getting ready to talk about it, but man, we we
• 47:26
  went to a place right after this that was also spectacular in its
• 47:30
  own way for multiple reasons. The first reason is because it's
• 47:33
  around the corner. It's around the corner, walking
• 47:36
  distance, literally. I mean, you can almost see it
• 47:39
  from the brewery. You can.
• 47:41
  What's it called? W 6th so.
• 47:44
  Covington House. Yeah, kind of, you know, W 6
• 47:47
  they are, they are located out of Lexington, KY.
• 47:51
  I had only had like 1 beer from them before.
• 47:54
  They had a little, a little set up down at the Newport on the
• 47:58
  Levee and they may still have that.
• 48:00
  They opened up a brewery, you know, right around the corner
• 48:03
  from Braxton. And the first thing that struck
• 48:06
  me as we were walking up to it, I said, I think this thing used
• 48:10
  to be a Firehouse and walked in, asked a girl in there and she
• 48:14
  said, yeah, you know, a long time ago.
• 48:16
  It'd been a number of of things since that time.
• 48:18
  And I said to you, I said this is kind of useless trivia, but
• 48:21
  it's this is the third brewery in a year that I've been to that
• 48:25
  used to be a Firehouse. Yep.
• 48:27
  So you're on a West Coast IPA and former Firehouse road trip.
• 48:33
  Yeah. Can we just combine all those?
• 48:34
  That'd be really cool. It seems we are No, you're
• 48:38
  right. The place is beautiful like it
• 48:41
  just I mean, and it looks like a Firehouse and you'd like you
• 48:44
  said it was a few things before that made the layout of it's
• 48:47
  beautiful. Even the ceiling had wood on the
• 48:49
  ceiling like it. We just done up right.
• 48:51
  And I don't know if that's been there from the previous places,
• 48:53
  but it's you know what, to me, and I said it a few times, where
• 48:56
  we're sitting there, they made an investment in that place, not
• 48:59
  just, hey, here's a spot we're going to put some beer in.
• 49:02
  They plan on being there for a while.
• 49:04
  Like that is a beautiful, beautiful spot.
• 49:07
  They have really good beer. I've had W 6 in a few places.
• 49:10
  I think they're out of Lexington.
• 49:11
  Ultimately, I've been to that spot, but man, they, they're
• 49:14
  part of the community there. They want to be there.
• 49:17
  And I think it's a great thing to be around the corner from
• 49:19
  Braxton, just exactly like what we did.
• 49:21
  We left one and we walked to the other one.
• 49:23
  Yeah, very, very convenient. And, and we, you know, when I
• 49:26
  saw a while back that they, because they've only been open
• 49:29
  over the past year or so, and when I saw a while back where
• 49:32
  the location was, I'm like, well that's perfect.
• 49:34
  You know, all we have to do is walk right over there after we
• 49:37
  go to Braxton, so. We we love those things.
• 49:40
  We've talked about it many times where we'd love going to a place
• 49:42
  and there's another place because we're going to get,
• 49:45
  we're going to do both places. We're not going to pick one.
• 49:46
  We're going to both of them. So which is exactly what that
• 49:49
  did. So it added that and I mean they
• 49:52
  got AI, don't think it's really part of them, but in the same
• 49:56
  building, cuz I said is there an upstairs?
• 49:57
  And she goes, yeah, there's an upstairs.
• 49:58
  That's called the second story. Yeah.
• 50:01
  So if you go in the front door, you go left into with six or you
• 50:05
  keep going up the stairs and you go into this other place and
• 50:07
  it's a cocktail bar. Yeah.
• 50:09
  And. And what she said Yeah, it's
• 50:11
  called second story. It's separate from us.
• 50:13
  When we kick him out of the brewery at whatever time they
• 50:15
  close, we send them upstairs to the cocktail because they're
• 50:19
  still open. So.
• 50:21
  Yeah, and. I will talk about everything
• 50:23
  that I had on my on the flight from there.
• 50:26
  It was all good. There was one that I found to be
• 50:29
  a little bit wacky and this one kind of stood out for me.
• 50:33
  I didn't have too many wacky beers on the entire trip, but
• 50:36
  this one, you know, basically I went in and I looked at the
• 50:39
  board. It was kind of sight unseen.
• 50:42
  I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to order.
• 50:44
  I I'm not going to sit there and get on my untapped app or
• 50:47
  anywhere else. And because I haven't had that
• 50:48
  much W 6. So, you know, we're we're guys
• 50:51
  that we just like trying different things.
• 50:53
  This one was called, it was a sour and it's called the feisty
• 50:57
  Fiego. And this thing was whacked out
• 51:02
  man. But The funny thing is, I've
• 51:04
  looked at ratings and other people have rated higher.
• 51:07
  Wasn't exactly my thing. I started, I started drinking it
• 51:10
  and you expect it to be a sour, but it does say feisty.
• 51:15
  And then all of a sudden I went, what am I tasting?
• 51:17
  I'm tasting pepper. What the heck?
• 51:22
  And I looked at it. I looked.
• 51:23
  At you and I said. They had pepper in a sour is.
• 51:25
  It this thing is spicy, it's got pepper in it, it's fruity.
• 51:28
  And I'm like that. Feisty Fuego.
• 51:30
  OK, the name of that makes sense.
• 51:34
  Not for me. I doubt I would ever have it
• 51:36
  again. Everything else, you know, I had
• 51:39
  a coach, I had a Porter, I had a cider there and they were all
• 51:44
  good. But the Feisty Fuego, man, that
• 51:46
  thing was a wacky beer. I'm sure there are people that
• 51:50
  love that thing. I was like, no, I don't know if
• 51:52
  that's for me, but that's OK. We still enjoy the experience of
• 51:56
  W 6. They got the name right, right.
• 51:58
  The feisty part they did that kept coming up in our
• 52:01
  conversation as we were talking about the beer as you were
• 52:03
  drinking it. Yeah.
• 52:06
  They gave him sampling. I go, yeah, that's that's pretty
• 52:08
  right. It's pretty right.
• 52:10
  Yeah, Yeah. Thank God you didn't get a pint
• 52:13
  of it. We'd still be.
• 52:14
  There. Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 52:15
  I was like. What the heck is going on here?
• 52:17
  Yeah, I'm almost done. No, I think the other thing is
• 52:20
  if I had, I had I opted for the pint, I probably would have
• 52:24
  opted to do a little more research.
• 52:27
  But on a flight, you know, sometimes you're like, OK, and I
• 52:30
  probably could have gone up and said, you can just give me a
• 52:32
  little taster of this. But, you know, we, we like, you
• 52:36
  know, sometimes we like doing, you know, flights on certain
• 52:39
  things as well. So it was all right.
• 52:41
  It all worked out really well. You can get through 4 oz it.
• 52:45
  Really. Wasn't that?
• 52:47
  You can get through 4 oz. I'll tell you what I did like
• 52:49
  about pretty much every place we've been, but the the
• 52:53
  different styles. I mean, IPA is loggers what you
• 52:55
  just talked about. I had a stout over there.
• 52:57
  I mean, they had all sorts of styles on the board.
• 53:00
  So they had some crazy stuff. I had a sour, I think, and
• 53:04
  Covington House logger had a lot of loggers on this trip, but
• 53:06
  just, you know, kind of something for every kind of
• 53:09
  beer, beer lover, different styles for different people.
• 53:11
  So even somebody that you know wants a feisty beer if.
• 53:15
  Somebody wants a feisty Fuego, Go there.
• 53:18
  Go get. It that's the place to go.
• 53:20
  That's the place to go. But we really enjoyed.
• 53:21
  They had a nice, you know, I don't just they have like
• 53:23
  tables. So we had a nice little seating
• 53:24
  area. We sat in right there by the
• 53:25
  front door. Yeah.
• 53:27
  Yeah, yeah, very enjoyable. Yeah.
• 53:29
  So we were very. Cool place.
• 53:30
  So we were over there for a little bit and I knew that we,
• 53:35
  there was a, there was a decent chance because as we said the
• 53:38
  beginning of this podcast, we're generally not guys unless we're,
• 53:41
  you know, in a hurry that are staying at a brewery for just
• 53:44
  like an hour. And I knew we probably had time,
• 53:48
  you know, pre gaming for the Reds game to hit 3 breweries,
• 53:52
  maybe 4. I want to say wooden cask.
• 53:56
  We love your wooden cast. We've been to wooden cast
• 53:58
  before. We will be back.
• 54:00
  We didn't make it the wooden cast in Newport this particular
• 54:04
  time. It was a game time decision.
• 54:07
  It was a game time decision. But the other thing was the next
• 54:11
  stop was Darkness over? Yes, over in Bellevue.
• 54:15
  Because I, I was almost embarrassed.
• 54:17
  The last time I came, I was in town.
• 54:19
  I've been up in town. I went to Darkness for the first
• 54:21
  time and I had heard so many people tell me, why have you not
• 54:25
  been to Darkness Brewery? And of course, it's right over
• 54:27
  my party store. So it's like, duh, you know, why
• 54:30
  didn't you go there? Why have you guys been there?
• 54:33
  And so that was a definite on the list that we were going to
• 54:36
  go to Darkness. That was my second time.
• 54:40
  That was your first time, and it was at practice that we met up
• 54:44
  with a lot of great people in the beer community.
• 54:47
  Sure did. So Zach, who we've been
• 54:50
  communicating with from 513 Craft Brew Sensei met up with us
• 54:55
  there because we he, we've been trying to coordinate where we're
• 54:56
  going to meet before the game because they were going to the
• 54:58
  game too. Met us up.
• 54:59
  We did a little beer exchange there.
• 55:01
  He had some friends that came in, met up and just had a cool
• 55:03
  time, man. We just hung out and tried some
• 55:06
  stuff again, my first time. So I'm just kind of looking
• 55:08
  around like, oh, this place is amazing.
• 55:10
  Oh, look at that and look at this and look at that, you know,
• 55:12
  taking all these kinds of pictures.
• 55:13
  But it was a cool vibe, man. It was really cool and a lot
• 55:16
  going on because there are a lot of people coming in that we're
• 55:18
  meeting and, you know, sharing beers with and things.
• 55:21
  But, and it went by pretty quickly, but it was a really
• 55:24
  cool vibe and I, I really like the place.
• 55:27
  It's another place I want to go back to and spend a little more
• 55:29
  time in. Oh, I I.
• 55:30
  Agree. I agree and shout out to Zach
• 55:32
  and Cincinnati and all the gang, the beer community that we we
• 55:36
  got to meet up with and I was really excited because of my
• 55:39
  friend Dave Brinker. That's right, Dave.
• 55:42
  Yeah, that's right, Dave. Dave known him forever.
• 55:44
  He he met us there because he was going to the Reds game.
• 55:46
  And I'm almost embarrassed to even tell people how long I've,
• 55:49
  how many years I've known that guy almost virtually all my
• 55:52
  life. We went through kindergarten
• 55:54
  again. I mean, it goes back that many
• 55:56
  years. So it was.
• 55:57
  Cool, he's a great dude too. I've hung out with him twice.
• 55:59
  He's just a great dude. Yeah, and he came and I laughed
• 56:02
  because he had a Cleveland Indians jersey on.
• 56:04
  But I also remember that it was a Ricky Vaughn jersey from Major
• 56:10
  League. And he's a big as I am too, and
• 56:12
  you are a Major League fan of that movie.
• 56:16
  And so it was kind of funny. It's like, Dave, you're going to
• 56:18
  a Reds game. Why do you have?
• 56:21
  Okay, that makes sense. Ricky Vaughn, Cleveland.
• 56:24
  Yeah. So, yeah, it was, it was, it was
• 56:26
  great. So we we, you know, we had a lot
• 56:29
  of great beer there at Darkness and again, talk about the
• 56:33
  ambience of Darkness your first time there.
• 56:36
  Well, man, the artwork, I say I worked this, this, this stuff on
• 56:39
  the walls was cool. Like a lot of Star Wars theme
• 56:42
  stuff. I mean, one of the beers was
• 56:44
  called Raygun. Another one's called was Han
• 56:47
  Rollo which. I had which I rated a brown ale
• 56:52
  and I rated that pretty high, so that was really good.
• 56:55
  Also had there explore mix Berry, Amber sour and Man on the
• 57:00
  Moo which was they were all really good.
• 57:02
  So yeah. Everything, just the decor is
• 57:04
  cool. Everything kind of theme.
• 57:05
  I don't if it's All Star Wars. There's a lot of Star Wars stuff
• 57:08
  in the darkness thing, just a cool vibe, and I think everybody
• 57:11
  that goes in there knows it's cool.
• 57:13
  You know, if you're here, you're cool kind of thing.
• 57:16
  Well, it's a, it's a small, it's got a small family owned brewery
• 57:20
  there and it's in an older building.
• 57:22
  But I mean, it's, it's, they got, they usually have about 8
• 57:26
  beers on top there. They have a food truck out out
• 57:29
  in in the front. And they also have another area
• 57:33
  where I think certain times during the year and maybe the
• 57:36
  maybe that night. Where you can go?
• 57:38
  In they got bands coming in from music and everything.
• 57:41
  So I would say all day every day.
• 57:44
  If you've not been to Darkness, go to Darkness over in Bellevue,
• 57:47
  KY. That place is legit.
• 57:49
  It's legit. And the beer was not just the
• 57:52
  names of the beer, the beer was really damn good too.
• 57:54
  So I got to sample several of them.
• 57:57
  So, yeah, cool spot. It's a shame we hadn't done
• 58:00
  before, but we know that is a that's a priority kind of every
• 58:04
  time from here on out. Or we do.
• 58:06
  Yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic.
• 58:08
  So glad. Glad we finally got there.
• 58:10
  Glad I finally got there. Well, the first time I went
• 58:14
  there, you know, that was another one where I was sort of
• 58:17
  in a hurry and was in there for like 4045 minutes getting a
• 58:20
  quick beer and and getting out. So it was.
• 58:23
  It was just cool to spend more time in there this particular
• 58:26
  time taking in more of their beer.
• 58:29
  Another one I recommend and checked off the list.
• 58:32
  You know, I feel good about going to this place when you get
• 58:34
  to a lot of places that you wanna go to that was high on the
• 58:37
  list and say OK, we did that one too.
• 58:38
  Awesome. Yeah, we took darkness off the
• 58:41
  list. So we pregame there and we went
• 58:45
  to the Reds game and saw another Reds victory that night.
• 58:49
  That was fantastic. I had, you know, I hadn't had
• 58:52
  this one for a while and I know even though they're no longer in
• 58:55
  business, their beer is still being distributed.
• 58:58
  I had the gamble banger from Tap Brewing.
• 59:01
  Oh yeah, OK. I actually had a new one over
• 59:05
  there too. It was Hyperteric IPA from
• 59:09
  break. I somehow I found another one
• 59:11
  over there I hadn't had at the Reds game.
• 59:13
  All right. Operateric over there.
• 59:15
  So that, that was great. And I I know I had another one
• 59:17
  after that. I don't know what it was.
• 59:20
  It wasn't new so I just left it. That's OK, that's OK, and I may
• 59:24
  have had some cheese conies from Skyline Chili at the game by
• 59:27
  the. Way.
• 59:28
  You know what's funny? It's because I was thinking the
• 59:30
  other day I thought Steve, only we only stopped at Skyline once,
• 59:33
  but you got Skyline more than once.
• 59:34
  So you found a way. I did.
• 59:37
  You found a way I. Always do.
• 59:40
  I always do. Where there's a where there's a
• 59:42
  will there's a way, and. Skyline Chili.
• 59:44
  Is everywhere up there, you know, on every street corner.
• 59:47
  If you call somebody and walk out in front of your house and
• 59:50
  said can you get me some skyline, They would they would
• 59:52
  probably come up. And Oh yeah, here's the trivia
• 59:55
  right now. And I'm not going to give
• 59:57
  regional details, but I remember sitting at the game and you were
• 59:59
  kind of talking a lot of shit about the the team you were
• 1:00:03
  beating so. I have, I have video, not put it
• 1:00:08
  up or anything, but you were talking a lot of shit.
• 1:00:09
  You were feeling pretty good in that game.
• 1:00:11
  Well, you know, I mean it. We we were our friends in
• 1:00:15
  Cleveland who we met up with and we'll talk about on the next
• 1:00:19
  trip, you know, when they are Cleveland Guardian.
• 1:00:23
  Fans really still the Indians. Keys But yeah, so there was some
• 1:00:29
  bragging rights on the line. We won the Ohio Cup and they,
• 1:00:35
  the Reds, actually swept the Guardian slash Indians that
• 1:00:39
  weekend. So go Reds.
• 1:00:41
  Sure did good showing. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:45
  So it was, it was, it was a it was a good time all around.
• 1:00:49
  And then we had one last trek of the night.
• 1:00:54
  I'm gonna tell you, you begin, and then I'll.
• 1:00:57
  I can't take it. I'm not sure I can take this.
• 1:00:59
  Story. OK, so so we leave the Reds
• 1:01:02
  game, right? And we're going to go to March
• 1:01:04
  1st, the downtown, March 1st, right?
• 1:01:06
  We were going to meet the hill tappers.
• 1:01:08
  Yeah, we're just going to leave there and we're going to walk
• 1:01:10
  over to March 1st, right? Because it's just right there.
• 1:01:13
  It's right. And then, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  So this is my recollection. So I leave and I'm waiting
• 1:01:18
  outside by the bike racks for you.
• 1:01:20
  You and Dave go ahead. I'm waiting.
• 1:01:23
  We get separated somewhere is a lot of people coming out.
• 1:01:26
  And I'm waiting outside for Steve at the at the bike rack.
• 1:01:30
  And I don't see Steve or Dave or anything.
• 1:01:32
  So I go. I just walk over to March 1st
• 1:01:34
  because Steve knows where he's going.
• 1:01:36
  It's just right here. He'll find he's probably there
• 1:01:38
  already. So I get in there.
• 1:01:45
  I'm looking around. No Steve, no Steve at all.
• 1:01:48
  So I'm like, I'll be here anytime, you know, whatever.
• 1:01:51
  So I, you know, I can only, I can only like kind of
• 1:01:56
  rebroadcast what you told me what happened after that.
• 1:01:59
  But tell us about your journey from Great American Ballpark to
• 1:02:02
  March 1st downtown. To I ended up there.
• 1:02:06
  I ended up there on March 1st and had some beers with you
• 1:02:08
  guys. Was it planes, trains and
• 1:02:10
  automobiles to get? Well, my story goes like this.
• 1:02:15
  Apparently you didn't hear me after the Reds game because it
• 1:02:19
  we're leaving and my buddy David, I said, you know, I got
• 1:02:22
  to go use the restroom. So like, we're going to the
• 1:02:24
  bathroom, hang out, wait for us. And I guess you didn't hear us.
• 1:02:28
  So when I walked out, I'm looking around.
• 1:02:30
  We're like, where's Scott at? And I texted you and you're
• 1:02:33
  like, you know, walking to March 1st.
• 1:02:35
  I'm like, all right, so, so, so the ballpark is about a half
• 1:02:39
  mile or so at Fountain Square. Well, I'm really telling myself
• 1:02:43
  I'm falling on the sword here. Come.
• 1:02:45
  On in the. Middle of downtown Cincinnati is
• 1:02:48
  our freaking landmark, for God's sakes, and I usually can get
• 1:02:52
  around anywhere. So Dave's wife was picking him
• 1:02:55
  up, picking him up the next block.
• 1:02:57
  So I walk on up and I got my This is where common sense did
• 1:03:03
  not take over in my life. This is a night that I had no
• 1:03:07
  common sense whatsoever. I had my map app up on my phone
• 1:03:12
  like you know where you're walking.
• 1:03:13
  This is where it is or whatever. I knew it was on Fountain
• 1:03:17
  Square, but I didn't know exactly where Fountain Square.
• 1:03:20
  And so, you know, I'm walking and I'm not paying that much
• 1:03:24
  attention to where where I'm going as far as I crossed the
• 1:03:28
  street. And my map app has me walking, I
• 1:03:31
  think it's on 4th St. or something.
• 1:03:32
  And I walk around the whole damn block and I'm like, what's going
• 1:03:35
  on here? Where is it?
• 1:03:37
  Where is it? It used to be right here.
• 1:03:41
  It should be here. I had not been there before.
• 1:03:43
  Well, I actually had been there when it was rock bottom.
• 1:03:48
  So, but that was a long time ago, a long time ago.
• 1:03:51
  And so I don't know. So I'm walking and then all of a
• 1:03:54
  sudden I'm thinking I'll get there.
• 1:03:56
  This is fine. And my I look down at my phone
• 1:03:59
  again. I'm looking more at my phone.
• 1:04:01
  I'm depending on more on my phone than common sense.
• 1:04:04
  I will. I will say this, there are a lot
• 1:04:06
  of buildings around, so the signals kind of get effed up.
• 1:04:10
  You know, I'll get to that in a moment.
• 1:04:13
  I think a lot of times if you're using like a Waze app and it
• 1:04:16
  tells you go down a certain St. and you realize that street is a
• 1:04:20
  dead end, why is Waze telling me to go that way?
• 1:04:22
  So you're not going to go that way.
• 1:04:24
  I should have done that, but no, instead I'm.
• 1:04:27
  I keep looking. At it and all of a sudden have
• 1:04:30
  me walking on the other side and I'm looking and I'm looking and
• 1:04:35
  I'm looking and by this time I'm almost two blocks over and I
• 1:04:39
  just, I got I got so mad, so irritated.
• 1:04:43
  I just said the heck with this, I'm just calling an Uber.
• 1:04:48
  So I got around to the Uber and got up there and I finally found
• 1:04:52
  it. So, OK, so you took ultimately
• 1:04:55
  you took an Uber from Great American Ballpark to March 1st?
• 1:05:00
  Yeah, basically downtown, OK, which is what, less than a half
• 1:05:03
  a mile? Oh yeah.
• 1:05:06
  But you got there, which was important.
• 1:05:09
  That was important. I couldn't remember if the hill
• 1:05:12
  tappers got there before you or you got there before.
• 1:05:14
  You got there before. I walked in there right before
• 1:05:16
  them. You did get there.
• 1:05:20
  Yeah, I walked in there, right? Before them.
• 1:05:22
  So it was. It was a lot of fun.
• 1:05:23
  It's a good story. It's it's content.
• 1:05:26
  It's a good story. Hey, so that ended our night,
• 1:05:29
  but before we start into the next day, we have a special
• 1:05:34
  guest. Me, I've been here the whole
• 1:05:36
  time. We have a special guest guest
• 1:05:38
  who has joined. Who was gonna join?
• 1:05:42
  And now she's here. Can you introduce yourself?
• 1:05:44
  Special guest. Well, just like on this road
• 1:05:48
  trip up to Cincinnati, I like to pop in and out around my work
• 1:05:52
  schedule. So popping on into this podcast.
• 1:05:56
  Hi, I'm Liz from everyday I'm bubbling and happy to be here
• 1:05:59
  with y'all. Our Cincinnati correspondent.
• 1:06:02
  She's a Papa Award winner. She.
• 1:06:06
  Is. Very proud, Very proud Papa
• 1:06:09
  Award. Winner.
• 1:06:10
  Cincinnati Correspondent. Cincinnati Correspondent.
• 1:06:14
  Well Liz, welcome. When I saw the EE pop up I was
• 1:06:17
  like yay. Made it.
• 1:06:20
  Made it. We're just about getting to the
• 1:06:22
  part where you actually show up on this trip.
• 1:06:25
  Yeah, your timing is actually a timing.
• 1:06:27
  Is everything. I'm telling you you're you're
• 1:06:31
  talking. Exactly.
• 1:06:32
  Impeccable because we were getting actually we just
• 1:06:35
  finished off talking about our Friday and Saturday in
• 1:06:38
  Cincinnati and we're we're about to get into Sunday and that's
• 1:06:42
  when we met up with you. Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Yes. So we'll, we'll, we'll get into
• 1:06:48
  that. So we curiously Friday, we
• 1:06:51
  curiously Saturday we hit some new breweries and then we hit
• 1:06:54
  through Sunday. But hang.
• 1:06:56
  On, but I mentioned I didn't mention a Hill Tappers.
• 1:06:58
  So Tom and Brad from the Hill Tappers from Louisville rode
• 1:07:03
  into town. They were doing some stuff
• 1:07:04
  earlier after we got to the ball game.
• 1:07:05
  They met us at March 1st and then kind of began the
• 1:07:08
  shenanigans for the next few days with those guys as well.
• 1:07:12
  It did, yeah. And and Liz was part of the
• 1:07:15
  shenanigans of. Course, certainly.
• 1:07:18
  Off and on because we know that she is the hardest working woman
• 1:07:22
  in show business in Cincinnati, but she still managed to hang
• 1:07:28
  out with us for a couple of days and she gave it more of an
• 1:07:32
  effort than the Reds give sometimes.
• 1:07:35
  But. More than the Guardians gave.
• 1:07:38
  Or the Guardians game, that right?
• 1:07:40
  That's right. But you know, we had mentioned
• 1:07:42
  at the beginning of this podcast that one of the places that does
• 1:07:47
  brunch is Saunder Brewing. And so we decided on that
• 1:07:52
  Sunday, let's go to Saunder. Actually, your original idea,
• 1:07:56
  Scott, was let's go to Bob Evans.
• 1:07:59
  And it was Tom, the Hill Tappers that text and said, do we really
• 1:08:03
  want to go to Bob Evans on a Sunday?
• 1:08:05
  And I'm like, yeah, why the heck do we want to go to Bob Evans on
• 1:08:08
  a Sunday when we go to brunch? Take out the middleman.
• 1:08:12
  Thank you, Liz. Take out the middleman and just
• 1:08:15
  hit Saunder right off the bat. So that's what.
• 1:08:18
  We did well, I just knew you didn't need breakfast, so I just
• 1:08:22
  threw out Bob. Evans.
• 1:08:25
  No Sonder was great for breakfast.
• 1:08:27
  Sonder was great for breakfast. Liz, have you ever been to
• 1:08:29
  Sonder for breakfast? No, I've eaten lunch there, had
• 1:08:34
  a had a good few things off their lunch menu, but I cannot
• 1:08:39
  say I've had breakfast there or brunch.
• 1:08:42
  And I think all four of us got the same thing, Steve.
• 1:08:45
  I think we all got that egg sandwich was about a foot and a
• 1:08:49
  half tall I. Think it was incredible?
• 1:08:52
  It was incredible. It was really good.
• 1:08:54
  It was really. Good you guys drink to pair with
• 1:08:57
  this? Oh gosh, let's see, Steve,
• 1:08:59
  what'd you start with? What you had that day.
• 1:09:02
  You know, I had a couple flights that day.
• 1:09:04
  So I mean, I had like a flight of like the rally cab.
• 1:09:07
  Talk to me Spruce, which is their one of their Ipas, the the
• 1:09:13
  hornet's nest, the Honey beer. I had their box, the William
• 1:09:16
  goat. I mean, I had so many different
• 1:09:18
  things. I'll tell you the other one I
• 1:09:20
  had on the flight returning the second time I've ever had this.
• 1:09:24
  I probably won't have it again, but you know, have to go back in
• 1:09:27
  time. The root beer beer.
• 1:09:31
  So I got on a flight and I had that a couple of years ago.
• 1:09:34
  It's Saunder. And I think that's sort of a a
• 1:09:36
  bit of a homage that they do little collab to Kings Island,
• 1:09:40
  if I'm not mistaken. And it's actual beer, not root
• 1:09:43
  beer. It tastes like root beer, but
• 1:09:46
  it's beer in it. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:50
  It's very, yeah. Skip that one all together.
• 1:09:58
  But I have a weird. Ketamine nostalgia from
• 1:10:00
  childhood. You got to have the root beer
• 1:10:02
  beer. I know.
• 1:10:03
  I mean, I like, I used to like root beer.
• 1:10:05
  It's just one of those things. Now when you grow older, it's
• 1:10:06
  like, I just can't get through a root beer anymore.
• 1:10:09
  But it tastes exactly what it is.
• 1:10:11
  I mean, it tastes like a root beer.
• 1:10:12
  Steve, would you add ice cream and make a root beer beer float?
• 1:10:20
  Maybe I should try that. I may give you an idea.
• 1:10:22
  And then you're going to want to try that with me, right?
• 1:10:24
  I see where you're going there. I mean, when in Sonder, why not?
• 1:10:30
  Liz, you know what for you, with you.
• 1:10:33
  I would try that sometime. How's that?
• 1:10:35
  In a box with a box. And pineapple on pizza, of
• 1:10:40
  course. We didn't get that.
• 1:10:42
  We didn't even have any pizza our whole trip up there.
• 1:10:45
  I don't know why, but that didn't happen.
• 1:10:47
  Then I have to deliver the larosas the next time.
• 1:10:50
  I know it, I know it. But, but you know, Scott, we, we
• 1:10:54
  also, when we got there, we, we always talk about the brewery
• 1:10:57
  experience. There was a lot of brewery
• 1:10:59
  experience going on at Sonder that day.
• 1:11:03
  There was like a big parade going on that we were all
• 1:11:05
  fascinated watching. Like like the family walk they
• 1:11:09
  were having or something? Yes.
• 1:11:12
  The family walk and everybody was dressed up in these blow up
• 1:11:15
  animal costume outfits. Yes, from from flamingos to
• 1:11:20
  Pokémon to I don't know what the other things were, but there
• 1:11:25
  were it was a lot of it was favorite, very family friendly
• 1:11:28
  and they walked around the building a few times and I think
• 1:11:30
  when the when the kids finished they got a free beer or
• 1:11:33
  something when they walked around 4 times.
• 1:11:34
  When the kids finished. When the kids finished?
• 1:11:36
  Really. The children.
• 1:11:38
  Yeah. Yeah, the under 21 or.
• 1:11:39
  So it was a reward if you walked around 4 times you got a beer
• 1:11:42
  out of it was a root beer. It was a root beer.
• 1:11:47
  A real root beer, not a root beer beer.
• 1:11:50
  It was a root beer. Beer Were parents recruiting
• 1:11:53
  their kids to walk around the building for them so they could
• 1:11:56
  be like here dad, I walked around 4 times.
• 1:11:58
  Here's your beer. I don't know.
• 1:12:00
  I saw the kids drinking them. I don't know.
• 1:12:01
  I don't know, man. Not my kids.
• 1:12:04
  I don't care. Hey, don't get caught or in
• 1:12:06
  trouble, I don't think. That no.
• 1:12:08
  No. There was no stopping.
• 1:12:10
  There was a family thing going around where they did walk
• 1:12:12
  around thing and, and then the families all kind of hung out.
• 1:12:16
  The family, the the adults drank beer afterwards.
• 1:12:18
  Exactly. But it was cool.
• 1:12:19
  Everybody was dressed up in their outfits and costumes and
• 1:12:22
  things. It was pretty cool to watch.
• 1:12:24
  Well, saw there was always a fun time.
• 1:12:27
  I mean, it's one of my favorite breweries up there and we always
• 1:12:30
  try to get up there when we when we hit town.
• 1:12:33
  Well, yeah, here you would talk about weird.
• 1:12:34
  So here's 1 I had up there. And Jeff's Jams is a is a series
• 1:12:39
  that they do and I've had others versions of it.
• 1:12:41
  But volume 9 was Aipa Spicy Berry Cobbler with cinnamon and
• 1:12:47
  habanero. And it was pretty good to start
• 1:12:50
  with. And I wasn't quite sure how it
• 1:12:52
  ended. I rated it early on thankfully,
• 1:12:56
  but it it was a little weird. Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  It's a little. Weird, but you know what beer
• 1:13:00
  they still have on top up there that you did not like last year
• 1:13:03
  was? It spicy.
• 1:13:04
  It was, it had all the things. It was a little spicy.
• 1:13:08
  Habanerio always get you back here.
• 1:13:10
  The cinnamon was weird, the cobbler was weird, but it was an
• 1:13:12
  IPA at the same time, so I had the hops in there too.
• 1:13:16
  It was it was weird. It kept getting weirder as I
• 1:13:19
  drank it. But anyway, I got through it.
• 1:13:22
  So what you're saying, Steve? Well, no, I was.
• 1:13:25
  I was saying that they had the the see me rolling.
• 1:13:27
  That's still on that the the cinnamon beer that they have up
• 1:13:31
  there. It's still on on tap that you
• 1:13:33
  had last year that I liked and you did not like.
• 1:13:36
  I didn't get it this time. It sounds like it might be
• 1:13:39
  rolling, but Scott's still hating.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah, it's probably the same. It's probably the same keg it
• 1:13:45
  was last year when I was there, but they haven't changed it yet.
• 1:13:49
  Anyway, I digress. Next.
• 1:13:52
  Wait, I was gonna tell you guys, I may not have been at that
• 1:13:55
  brewery with you, but I did try a Saunderbeer down at Taste of
• 1:13:58
  Cincinnati last weekend. Did you guys get to try Divot?
• 1:14:03
  I've had it before, yeah. It was like quintessential
• 1:14:08
  summer kickoff beer. You know, it's a lemonade and
• 1:14:12
  iced tea ale, so it has a cool little logo of Ohio and a golf
• 1:14:17
  course and a golf flag on there with a little lemon wedge.
• 1:14:20
  So seemed like a quintessential beer to kick off summer at the
• 1:14:24
  Memorial Day weekend for me. So I know that was way after
• 1:14:27
  seeing you guys, but I felt like I had to play catch up and go
• 1:14:30
  visit Saunder down at the Taste. It all ties in.
• 1:14:34
  One of their signature beers that they that they bring out
• 1:14:37
  every year. I'm pretty sure that I that I've
• 1:14:39
  seen David for a couple of years now.
• 1:14:42
  Well, it it will definitely be on patios everywhere this
• 1:14:46
  summer. It's a it's a good, refreshing
• 1:14:49
  light beer. Yeah, you can't go wrong.
• 1:14:53
  Giant fans of Saunders, anything they do except for that see me
• 1:14:56
  rolling, I'm a fan of. Well, that's OK, I can.
• 1:15:01
  See me rolling away? I've had my encounter now with
• 1:15:05
  the root beer float Ale beer. I've had it twice on a flight.
• 1:15:10
  Nobody. Can I get it a third time with a
• 1:15:12
  scoop of ice cream? Ah, yes, that's right at the
• 1:15:15
  Cincinnati Zoo sometime, Liz. That's where we're going.
• 1:15:17
  That's where we're gonna go get it.
• 1:15:19
  Because they have a beer stand at the Cincinnati Zoo.
• 1:15:22
  So yeah, we'll report back. You selling me on this?
• 1:15:25
  We're gonna. I know we're lions and tigers
• 1:15:27
  and beer. Oh my.
• 1:15:29
  Let's see what I did there. That's actually pretty good.
• 1:15:33
  That's actually pretty good. Thank you.
• 1:15:35
  I just came off the top of my head.
• 1:15:37
  I guess I got jokes for days, jokes for days.
• 1:15:39
  But no, it was it was it was awesome to kick off Sonder.
• 1:15:43
  And then, you know, after that, Scott, we hit another new
• 1:15:47
  brewery. This had been on the list for a
• 1:15:49
  while. Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  This was a. Highly recommended.
• 1:15:53
  Highly. Recommended was in Loveland.
• 1:15:57
  It was narrow path, and I have to say I was.
• 1:16:01
  I was really surprised because for some reason in my head I
• 1:16:05
  knew it was around bike trails, but I thought, OK, narrow path.
• 1:16:09
  It's going to be off like the side of a Rd.
• 1:16:11
  There'll be a path and it'll be some woods and we're going
• 1:16:14
  through it and I'm like, this is anything but.
• 1:16:17
  I mean, it's a little hustling, hustle and bustle community.
• 1:16:20
  I mean, Liz, you've probably been a narrow path in Loveland,
• 1:16:22
  right? I actually have not.
• 1:16:25
  You have not. OK, but but you know, by the
• 1:16:28
  time I met up with you, you guys were on to the next one.
• 1:16:31
  So didn't make it. Didn't make it.
• 1:16:34
  That's OK. Next time.
• 1:16:36
  Next time. It's Steve.
• 1:16:37
  It's a great spot and I learned something so that that bike
• 1:16:40
  trail. So yeah.
• 1:16:41
  So we're narrow path is it's either call it the OR the
• 1:16:44
  beginning of this, this bike trail it goes 70 miles by the
• 1:16:49
  way. Wow, did not know that.
• 1:16:50
  And it's part of what they call it, part of the Little Miami
• 1:16:52
  Scenic Trail or something, 70 miles.
• 1:16:54
  So it's either right at the beginning or right at the end,
• 1:16:56
  depending which way you're going.
• 1:16:57
  And they aren't in the prime spot for this thing.
• 1:17:00
  You get off the trail in the backyard of narrow path is right
• 1:17:04
  there like I would say. Hey bike and Brill.
• 1:17:06
  Bike and Brill. Yes, I would probably pretend
• 1:17:09
  like I'm going to go biking and just go to the brewery and never
• 1:17:12
  actually get to the biking part, but it's awesome.
• 1:17:15
  It is awesome. And you know, we were there with
• 1:17:17
  the hill tappers and we probably sat out in the patio out there
• 1:17:21
  probably for a good two hours at least, you know, 75° weather.
• 1:17:25
  And there were so many people out there.
• 1:17:27
  The only, the only thing I wondered about was the brewery
• 1:17:30
  inside doesn't seem like it's the biggest.
• 1:17:33
  So I kind of wonder how they handle a lot of their things in
• 1:17:36
  the colder months. You probably have to get there
• 1:17:38
  early, but just a great tap list.
• 1:17:41
  I mean, I had, I had a couple of things, you know there that they
• 1:17:47
  in just a couple of things. I had their Irish bread and
• 1:17:50
  their Mexican lager and the theme, that's another theme.
• 1:17:53
  I had a lot of Mexican loggers on my trip.
• 1:17:55
  And they're, I was going to say the same thing.
• 1:17:57
  Yeah, yeah. They're Mexican lager was really
• 1:18:00
  good that day. So really enjoyed it and they
• 1:18:03
  had a food truck out there. I mean just a lot of lot going
• 1:18:06
  on at that brewery, Narrow Pass. So had a really good, we had a
• 1:18:10
  really good time there. And to your point, I bet you
• 1:18:13
  could fit five times as many people outside as you can fit
• 1:18:17
  inside that place. Like, like that day was perfect.
• 1:18:21
  Everybody was out sitting outside.
• 1:18:23
  There were people inside, but it was just, I don't just, it was
• 1:18:26
  one of those perfect experiences, a perfect weather
• 1:18:28
  day, you know, company was OK. We're a decent company.
• 1:18:32
  That's. Cuz I wasn't there.
• 1:18:35
  Said no, we love, we love the Hill Tavern.
• 1:18:37
  No, it was a great, it was a perfect, great day and just
• 1:18:39
  everything just added to the experience and.
• 1:18:42
  What was your perfect patio beer to go with this perfect day?
• 1:18:46
  I'll the one I liked I think the most, they had a, an English
• 1:18:51
  descent was like an ESB, which I got at the very tail end of it.
• 1:18:55
  But man, they had everything they had.
• 1:18:56
  They had amber loggers, they had red ale, they had a coconut
• 1:19:00
  Porter, an IPA, they had everything.
• 1:19:02
  But the English ESB is the thing I like the best.
• 1:19:06
  Yeah, and I like their Mexican lager quite a bit.
• 1:19:08
  I thought that was really good. So yeah, on par for summer,
• 1:19:10
  Steve. On par for summer, yeah.
• 1:19:12
  I know good, good drinking beer to sit out there.
• 1:19:15
  Did you get a lime wedge with it?
• 1:19:17
  Yeah, I think I did, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  So we had it. We had it going on there.
• 1:19:22
  And then, you know, we were trying to figure out after
• 1:19:25
  narrow path where we should go next.
• 1:19:28
  And that's where Liz came in because she was texting us all
• 1:19:32
  kinds of options. And the thing I might love about
• 1:19:36
  Liz is that one of the things I love about Liz the most is that
• 1:19:39
  if you want to know anything about Cincinnati, like if you
• 1:19:42
  said where can I go, I'm up in this little small area of
• 1:19:46
  Cincinnati, where can I go and just get like a truffle, you
• 1:19:50
  would know. I just wanted to give you guys
• 1:19:54
  options. I didn't know, you know, as the,
• 1:19:57
  you know, hopping in on the middle of this adventure, I
• 1:20:00
  didn't know where you had been all yet that day.
• 1:20:03
  And so I was like, well, where are you?
• 1:20:05
  Let me, how far are you going and where can I recommend from
• 1:20:09
  there? So I like to give options
• 1:20:12
  because you never know what everybody's in the mood for.
• 1:20:14
  And I know you guys had a where it wasn't just the two of you.
• 1:20:18
  It was also the guys from Louisville.
• 1:20:20
  So, you know, just trying to give the group options in case
• 1:20:23
  someone's like, no, that's not my jam.
• 1:20:26
  You know, showing out Cincinnati options.
• 1:20:28
  Don't even know where to find jam if we need.
• 1:20:30
  If I said Liz, where do we find jam in Cincinnati, she could
• 1:20:33
  give us a good recommendation. Farmers Market.
• 1:20:35
  Finley. Let's see, we should do that one
• 1:20:38
  day. We'll do it like a quick ring
• 1:20:41
  the bell. Where else can you get this
• 1:20:42
  stuff? You guys can go to Finley
• 1:20:44
  Farmers Market, the zoo. I I did tell you guys I was
• 1:20:48
  like, let me plan a day. You'll you'll have a real random
• 1:20:50
  adventure, but you'll love. It.
• 1:20:53
  It'll definitely be fun. Well, next on the list was
• 1:20:58
  actually a brewery where Liz and I had gone couple of months ago
• 1:21:01
  and we returned, boys and girls. We returned to one of our
• 1:21:05
  favorite breweries in Cincinnati.
• 1:21:06
  I don't think I've ever gotten a bad beer here.
• 1:21:10
  And that would be Listamen across from Xavier University.
• 1:21:13
  I know I accidentally wore my BearCat hat, but I apologize to
• 1:21:16
  the bartender on the way in. You know, one of the beers I had
• 1:21:20
  there was called All for One and it was a pilsner and it was made
• 1:21:24
  for Xavier by the way. Cuz it's literally.
• 1:21:26
  A very Musketeer reference. Right.
• 1:21:29
  If you look at the picture on tapped, it's an X, So throwing
• 1:21:32
  that out there. Well, and there may have been a
• 1:21:34
  video that was taken at Listerman that was sent to our
• 1:21:37
  friends in Cleveland of me with a broom sweeping.
• 1:21:40
  I think you handed a broom to me because the rats had swept the
• 1:21:45
  Guardians slash Indians. Oh, is that why you were?
• 1:21:49
  I thought you were just helping out.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah, you thought I was just like part of the.
• 1:21:52
  Channel, Yeah, yeah, no, just helping out the team know what a
• 1:21:56
  purpose. Steve's a good citizen of the
• 1:21:58
  world. That's right.
• 1:22:00
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:22:02
  He's also throwing a middle finger up to the Guardians.
• 1:22:05
  Then I I did not do that. I would never.
• 1:22:08
  Be he was a scholar and a gentleman and very politely was
• 1:22:12
  sending a nice sweeping video to our friends Elizabeth and Keith
• 1:22:16
  in Cleveland. Hey, guys.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah, hey, hey. But yeah, we had a we all had a
• 1:22:22
  great time. I know, I know the hill tappers
• 1:22:26
  love Listerman, as did I. And you know, it's the fourth
• 1:22:29
  time that I have checked in every time, every time I go
• 1:22:34
  there, it's almost always on the list.
• 1:22:35
  Now, the last time Liz and I went there, it was basically the
• 1:22:39
  Saint Patrick's Day theme. So I had to get the Saint
• 1:22:42
  Patrick's Day theme beers. I didn't this time, although
• 1:22:45
  they still had one on the list. But I had the lemon # cake
• 1:22:50
  blonde. And I always love that thing,
• 1:22:53
  man. Every time I go there and it's
• 1:22:55
  on the list, I have to get it. And that's a fourth year in a
• 1:22:57
  row, a fourth time in a row that that I've gotten.
• 1:23:00
  I like that it's always there. That is a great beer.
• 1:23:03
  Yeah. You know, I walked in the place
• 1:23:05
  and the first thing I wanted was the Dunkle.
• 1:23:06
  And guess was the first thing they were out of was the Dunkle.
• 1:23:09
  Yeah, but they didn't. Know you were picking a popular
• 1:23:12
  one. I guess, but it was still on the
• 1:23:14
  board. But yes, that yeah, but they
• 1:23:17
  didn't have a pre prohibition logger, which was damn good.
• 1:23:19
  And I had the All for one pilsner.
• 1:23:20
  So I, I do love listening. I didn't want to get in, You
• 1:23:23
  know, they always have the 12 percenters on the board anytime
• 1:23:27
  you want them. I didn't quite get into it that
• 1:23:29
  time of the day. I was like, not yet, just not
• 1:23:31
  yet. No, I've never been there.
• 1:23:33
  The time of the day where I've won a 12% beer, that would
• 1:23:35
  probably be like the last part of the day that I would probably
• 1:23:39
  go and then I'd be like, all right, this aliment.
• 1:23:41
  I know, but they're really good at them.
• 1:23:44
  They're really good at making those beers.
• 1:23:46
  Yes, they are. So a couple of the other beers
• 1:23:48
  that I had, there was a pre Prohibition Louder and the
• 1:23:51
  German Pilsner as well that that I really loved and checked in.
• 1:23:55
  It's always good to check in at Listerman Brewing, even though I
• 1:23:59
  know for you, Liz, it's almost enemy territory since you know
• 1:24:02
  Xavier is right across the street.
• 1:24:05
  You know, I am a BearCat fan, but guess what?
• 1:24:08
  You're a Musketeer fan and we get along.
• 1:24:10
  So it can be done. It can be done.
• 1:24:14
  Contrary to what people think it's possible.
• 1:24:18
  It is it. Is coexist.
• 1:24:20
  Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Just be two hours a couple times a year.
• 1:24:27
  We're rooting for different teams, but at the same time, if
• 1:24:30
  you're from Cincinnati, you just want to root for Cincinnati, so.
• 1:24:34
  But see, the stronger bond that Liz and I have is the fact that
• 1:24:36
  they're W we're W siders. We grew up like almost 3 or 4
• 1:24:39
  miles from each other. And if we found out the last
• 1:24:41
  time we were in town, we had the same dentist growing up.
• 1:24:45
  We're cool. Maybe we were there at the same
• 1:24:47
  time. You just, we just didn't know
• 1:24:48
  it. Like there's, there's Liz
• 1:24:50
  sitting over there, there's Steve sitting over here and, you
• 1:24:52
  know, with our coloring books or something, you know?
• 1:24:55
  You never know. You never know.
• 1:24:57
  It's the two degrees of separation of Kevin Bacon.
• 1:25:00
  That's right. Well someone gave you each
• 1:25:02
  different coloring books cuz I want roots for Cincinnati.
• 1:25:06
  Want roots to? Say, Oh my gosh.
• 1:25:10
  Well, I guess we should have, you know, encouraged Steve
• 1:25:13
  earlier that red and black are cooler colors than blue and
• 1:25:16
  white. Oh, there it is.
• 1:25:18
  I. Know I.
• 1:25:21
  Know it's always gonna be there, Steve.
• 1:25:24
  It's OK Steve likes the color red because it's our Cincinnati
• 1:25:26
  Reds too, so. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:25:28
  There you go. Quintessential Cincinnati color
• 1:25:30
  red. Yeah, well, after Listerman, who
• 1:25:34
  wants to talk about our next place?
• 1:25:36
  I think Liz, you're up with Melatone.
• 1:25:40
  You guys were, I think at that point hungry.
• 1:25:44
  And so we were throwing out some ideas.
• 1:25:47
  You know, I think Steve had a list and we were trying to
• 1:25:50
  accomplish this list. And Next up on this list, you
• 1:25:54
  know, the old Taf Brewing downtown unfortunately closed
• 1:25:58
  but was revamped and revived by Melatone, which none of us had
• 1:26:03
  seen under the new decor or beer making.
• 1:26:07
  So that was our next stop down to Over The Rhine to see
• 1:26:11
  Melatone, you know. And you talk about the list, the
• 1:26:15
  list. We didn't talk about this in the
• 1:26:16
  beginning of the podcast, but the list is still big and the
• 1:26:20
  list gets bigger and bigger. It's it's kind of become like a
• 1:26:22
  big joke of like every time somebody will text about going
• 1:26:28
  up to Cincinnati. And a lot of times we're all on
• 1:26:30
  group text, you know, group text.
• 1:26:32
  And I'll just say, well, it's being added to the list.
• 1:26:38
  It's it's it's at this point I think a scroll that's a few
• 1:26:42
  miles long, but we'll eventually accomplish it, so it's fine.
• 1:26:45
  We're gonna we're gonna accomplish everything on that
• 1:26:48
  list. Scott.
• 1:26:49
  What do you think? Even the zoo.
• 1:26:51
  I'm not putting zoo on my list but but.
• 1:26:55
  What we may. Have that dunkle from
• 1:26:57
  Listerman's Would you go? You could, you could draw me in
• 1:27:00
  with that, maybe a couple of other things.
• 1:27:03
  You got to kill two to three hours.
• 1:27:04
  The coolest zoo in America You got to You got to go see our our
• 1:27:08
  lovely, lovely lady Fiona the hippo.
• 1:27:09
  She has pride and joy. Well, Melatone was a new
• 1:27:14
  addition. It was on the list.
• 1:27:16
  I don't know if we had put it on like this is exactly where we're
• 1:27:20
  gonna go when we hit town, but we knew about it.
• 1:27:24
  And I'm glad we went because as you said, Liz, send the old, the
• 1:27:27
  old Taft brewhouse. And it's very different, though.
• 1:27:31
  I mean, I went in there and I don't, I can't remember.
• 1:27:35
  Liz, had you been there before? I had not been there since
• 1:27:38
  Melatone had redone the space. OK, so it's basically it's very
• 1:27:43
  modern looking. We go in there and I was, I was
• 1:27:46
  kind of surprised by it. I was like, oh wow, OK, a little
• 1:27:49
  more upscale, a little more modern, but they do have good
• 1:27:53
  food and they had craft beer options as well and a lot of
• 1:27:56
  other things. Yeah, You know, I was happy to
• 1:27:58
  see that there was beer going back in there, whether you call
• 1:28:02
  it a brewery, maybe it looks a little more food oriented,
• 1:28:05
  restaurant oriented. Nice place.
• 1:28:08
  Like you said, they did have good beer.
• 1:28:10
  I just think it leans a little more towards the food side than
• 1:28:12
  it does the the brewery side. But it was nice to see somebody
• 1:28:16
  going back in there that that had beer cuz I've been to that
• 1:28:19
  Taft. And so it was a great place.
• 1:28:21
  I would guess it's probably more small batch versus large batch.
• 1:28:24
  Definitely. But but the stuff was good.
• 1:28:26
  We we like the stuff once we figured out what it was.
• 1:28:28
  I loved actually. I know this is not beer related,
• 1:28:32
  but I had ordered a cucumber caprese salad while I was there
• 1:28:37
  and I was straight up obsessed that the zucchinis came in
• 1:28:39
  zoodle noodles. So like, they were like
• 1:28:43
  spaghetti noodles made out of cucumbers.
• 1:28:45
  So I went home and tried to reproduce that later in the
• 1:28:48
  week. Yeah, I'm not there yet, but
• 1:28:51
  we're gonna, it's gonna be a summer adventure of trying to
• 1:28:53
  figure out how to reproduce this to the best of my abilities.
• 1:28:56
  So some of that was ingredients and what I could find, but I
• 1:29:00
  don't know. I was a big fan of that so.
• 1:29:02
  Maybe just need the right tool for you know that.
• 1:29:04
  Thing no I I have a zoodler. You have it.
• 1:29:08
  OK Yeah, great place. Just just happy to see somebody
• 1:29:12
  back in there making beer, so hopefully they have a long life
• 1:29:16
  there. Did you guys have a favorite
• 1:29:18
  beer there? The favorite beer that I had
• 1:29:20
  that I rated on a flight was the 15th St.
• 1:29:24
  Bloom Hazy New England IPA, but it was the Hazy New England IPA,
• 1:29:33
  so that was my favorite on a flight.
• 1:29:34
  It was cool they had a Champlain.
• 1:29:37
  Champlain Stunner, New England. I paid, which I really liked.
• 1:29:41
  And by the way, we got to meet Tom's daughter here and her
• 1:29:43
  boyfriend, remember, for the first time.
• 1:29:45
  Zoe Beer Cat. Yeah, yeah, for the first time
• 1:29:49
  here. Yeah.
• 1:29:49
  So absolutely. It was a great meeting up,
• 1:29:52
  really. We did like the place.
• 1:29:53
  The place was really nice. It was, it was so well, that
• 1:29:57
  was, that was a great time and a great day to end the day at
• 1:30:01
  Melaton because it was a Sunday night and you know, like most
• 1:30:05
  cities, they start rolling the sidewalks up at about 9:00 or
• 1:30:08
  so. So, you know, we had a call
• 1:30:11
  tonight. Liz would not invite us back to
• 1:30:13
  her palatial estate in Indian Hill, you know, with 7 bedrooms
• 1:30:18
  and a big party house. She said Nope, sorry y'all, you
• 1:30:22
  can't come, you can't come back to my place tonight with the
• 1:30:24
  disco ball. And, you know, I know Scott
• 1:30:27
  wanted to bring his zoot suit back there and everything else,
• 1:30:29
  and Liz said absolutely not. Yeah, just.
• 1:30:32
  Me and Joe Burrow hanging out, no big deal.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that in a few
• 1:30:38
  minutes. We weren't, we, we probably
• 1:30:39
  weren't that far a couple days after or near Joe Burrow over
• 1:30:44
  over in that area. But you know, we got to talk
• 1:30:46
  about our our pretty epic day that began.
• 1:30:50
  And I said this because when we went on that Monday, May 19th
• 1:30:55
  and we started our day at Mad Tree and we walked in there is
• 1:31:00
  around 11:00 and this is the Mad Tree location in Oakley.
• 1:31:05
  And I said, you know when you can walk into a brewery at about
• 1:31:08
  11/11/30 on a Monday morning, you are living life pretty good.
• 1:31:12
  You guys were quite the celebrities at Mad Tree.
• 1:31:16
  Had some people coming out to say hello.
• 1:31:18
  Yeah, our buddy Ryan, who is the Director of Operations.
• 1:31:25
  Yes. Formerly the head Brewer who was
• 1:31:26
  on the podcast, he and Brittany were on the podcast and he came
• 1:31:29
  out to say hello, which was great to meet him.
• 1:31:31
  He said he was going to be there and we said, hey, we're here.
• 1:31:34
  And he came down and talked to us for quite a while.
• 1:31:36
  So it was great to finally meet him in person.
• 1:31:38
  Yeah, it really was. And you know, we we were almost,
• 1:31:42
  almost cursing ourselves last year because we did not get the
• 1:31:45
  matri Oakley. We had stayed up in that area
• 1:31:48
  and we left town and we were like, how did we not get to Matt
• 1:31:52
  Tree and it didn't happen. And you know, we've been there
• 1:31:55
  so many times. Love that location.
• 1:31:58
  The thing, I think the thing I noticed a change we walked in
• 1:32:00
  there is they got somebody now that is, you know, seating you
• 1:32:03
  because they've got more food options and things like that.
• 1:32:06
  And we keep talking about it's like more of the like the
• 1:32:08
  brewery experience. So Matt Tree in Oakley has
• 1:32:11
  changed quite a bit too, just in terms of how they're doing it
• 1:32:15
  because they, you know, even though they have a lot of
• 1:32:18
  crappier options, they also serve a lot of other kind of
• 1:32:22
  too. So that's a cool thing.
• 1:32:24
  That was just another day, another perfect weather day.
• 1:32:27
  That day we started out with we had like 3 days in a row where
• 1:32:30
  we started out, didn't start out great.
• 1:32:32
  We had three days in a row that were absolutely perfect and this
• 1:32:35
  was another one of those were just added to the experience.
• 1:32:38
  You guys, Southern gentleman brought that sunshine to Port
• 1:32:42
  Rainey, Ohio. I don't know what happened to it
• 1:32:45
  after those three days, but. We, we went back to rain.
• 1:32:48
  We went back to rain guys. You know, we know we we rain
• 1:32:52
  followed us the entire trip that we're gonna be talking about on
• 1:32:56
  our next Cleveland Takeover podcast because it rained for
• 1:33:00
  days. But I know, I know.
• 1:33:02
  It was great getting back there and I had a couple of great
• 1:33:05
  things on a flight. I had their oat logger, which
• 1:33:07
  was really good. Yeah, can be Lynx also, which
• 1:33:11
  was their Czech dark logger that I rated like a 4.25 on Untapped.
• 1:33:16
  And I loved those beers. And I always love most of the
• 1:33:21
  options, crappier options that they have, you know, at Mad
• 1:33:24
  Tree. And Liz and I can talk about
• 1:33:26
  this because, you know, we went, we had brunch at the one
• 1:33:30
  downtown a couple of months ago. Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  And and you've been to their new location too, and.
• 1:33:37
  I've been to Parks and Rec. Yep.
• 1:33:39
  And so we were actually talking about that with Ryan because I
• 1:33:42
  said, you know, it seems like it's still is.
• 1:33:46
  I think is I think Matry is is trying to really branch out and
• 1:33:50
  get everybody in the brewery experience.
• 1:33:52
  I think the one in Oakley is still the place you probably
• 1:33:55
  want to go, and they would even all agree if you want to get
• 1:33:58
  most of the craft beer. For the beer, yeah, You know, we
• 1:34:01
  walked in and we were just started talking about the menu
• 1:34:03
  in the in the bartender was like, hey, try these different
• 1:34:06
  seeing colors that they had. Remember they had like a hazy
• 1:34:09
  and a tropical or something. And I started sampling of some
• 1:34:12
  things and like, oh, these are great.
• 1:34:14
  And another one that they had, Steven, you talked about this
• 1:34:17
  earlier. Mexican logger.
• 1:34:18
  They had a great Mexican logger. Yep, they sure did.
• 1:34:21
  And, and, and a health logger. Yeah, like the whole, the whole
• 1:34:26
  weekend we went, the whole week we've been gone.
• 1:34:27
  We had Mexican lager almost everywhere we went.
• 1:34:29
  It seemed like they're out in force and they were delicious.
• 1:34:32
  And that was another example of them.
• 1:34:34
  They are. Yeah.
• 1:34:36
  Well, like I said earlier, when you could start your day on a
• 1:34:40
  Monday at Mad Tree or a Brandy brewery at about 11:30 in the
• 1:34:44
  morning, if that is, if that's your Monday, you know it.
• 1:34:48
  It's always a good time. Yep.
• 1:34:50
  Now our friend, our friend Liz here, she got to join us.
• 1:34:53
  She couldn't drink. She couldn't drink.
• 1:34:56
  Well, it's. Considered to go to work and you
• 1:34:57
  know, work like any good citizen.
• 1:35:00
  I was there for the social component, but also I did take
• 1:35:05
  my to go purchase very seriously and they relaunched their rocket
• 1:35:13
  pop sway for the summer. So, you know, I needed to get
• 1:35:16
  that for Memorial Day weekend so I could have my red, white and
• 1:35:19
  blue popsicle vodka in a can. Right.
• 1:35:23
  Which you did, which you took with you.
• 1:35:24
  So yes, you did. And I just saw you posted that
• 1:35:28
  as well. I did.
• 1:35:30
  I did, with a cute little sunset behind it.
• 1:35:32
  So figured, you know, it was one of those golden hours.
• 1:35:35
  You're having a nice cocktail. Yeah.
• 1:35:38
  It needed it needed it's a little own photo shoot.
• 1:35:41
  All the fantastic pictures and videos that every day I'm
• 1:35:45
  bubbling. Follow her on Instagram because
• 1:35:47
  it is great. Yep, by the way, and I don't
• 1:35:49
  know if you said it, but the Hill Tappers joined us here as
• 1:35:51
  well, as well as Beer Cat. She she joined us again too.
• 1:35:55
  And just again, just another great, great way to start the
• 1:35:59
  day. Yes, I'm very, I am very glad
• 1:36:03
  that we made it back to Mad Tree and we'll talk about the next
• 1:36:06
  place. But you, Scott, are on your own
• 1:36:09
  on this one because I did not get over to West Side this time.
• 1:36:12
  I was off doing family stuff. But, you know, right, West Side
• 1:36:16
  Brewing is one of our favorite places because, you know, we are
• 1:36:20
  from the West side. So, Scott?
• 1:36:22
  Do you have a good West Side brewing?
• 1:36:24
  Yes. Scott went over there and he
• 1:36:26
  hosted the Hill Tappers over a West side.
• 1:36:29
  Brewing. We had a kind of a reshuffling
• 1:36:32
  of cars, dropped you off to do your thing.
• 1:36:35
  Liz had to go to work and we went over to West Side and man,
• 1:36:39
  we had, I had a couple of, had a couple of flights over there,
• 1:36:42
  which is really, I love it because I got there.
• 1:36:44
  They always have the windows that face the street up.
• 1:36:48
  You kind of look out into the street and when people watch
• 1:36:50
  and, and which was which is always great.
• 1:36:52
  And we just had some other beers, man.
• 1:36:55
  They had a smoke logger, an English mild, another Mexican
• 1:37:00
  logger, if you can believe it. They had Lorian lager, a Lyman
• 1:37:03
  sea salt common ale. I mean they had everything on
• 1:37:07
  there. So again, hill tappers joined,
• 1:37:09
  joined me. We sat there, had a couple of
• 1:37:12
  had a couple of fights past the time a bit.
• 1:37:15
  We put our stickers up all over the place.
• 1:37:17
  There are multiple locations. Yes, there are multiple
• 1:37:20
  locations within the the brewery you can put your stickers at.
• 1:37:22
  And we did. We did all that so.
• 1:37:24
  Scott had the advantage this time.
• 1:37:26
  I was a little jealous because you know, the last two times I
• 1:37:30
  went there and I think one of the times I was there with you
• 1:37:32
  Liz, they didn't have the windows open cuz it was like 12°
• 1:37:35
  outside. Yes, you also came on a highly
• 1:37:39
  precipitation weekend, but of the flurrying kind.
• 1:37:43
  It seems every time I go and Steve, it's kind of the same
• 1:37:45
  story cuz you're kind of doing your thing.
• 1:37:47
  And I go to West Side cuz it's close by and it's the, the
• 1:37:50
  weather's always nice because it's May, right?
• 1:37:52
  It's kind of late May and the windows are open and I just sit
• 1:37:54
  there drinking beer and the sunlights coming in.
• 1:37:56
  It's, it's a nice little spot. They've got great beer.
• 1:37:59
  And what is it? Is it Gillian's?
• 1:38:01
  Is the other brand that they have?
• 1:38:03
  Gilligan's. Gilligan's.
• 1:38:05
  It's Gilligan's. So you have some of that on the
• 1:38:07
  menu too. So you get a kind of a mix of
• 1:38:09
  Westside and Gilligan's, which is all under the same umbrella.
• 1:38:12
  Really good stuff. And we killed a couple of
• 1:38:14
  flights waiting, waiting on Steve to get done.
• 1:38:17
  Well, Liz and I actually went to Gilligan's the last time that I
• 1:38:20
  had been in town in the nation in Wyoming.
• 1:38:24
  So yeah, really, really great place.
• 1:38:26
  But the thing I always say about Westside is you can go in there
• 1:38:31
  like every couple of months and you always see different beer
• 1:38:34
  there. Yeah, I mean, they they produce
• 1:38:36
  a lot of variations of beer and different beer and everything in
• 1:38:41
  there is always good. You know, and they do A and I've
• 1:38:44
  seen it a million times every time I've been in there.
• 1:38:45
  They have a regular West Side IPA.
• 1:38:47
  And I looked up and, you know, sometimes you think you've had
• 1:38:50
  something and you're looking on a tap.
• 1:38:51
  Like I realized I hadn't had the regular West Side IPA.
• 1:38:54
  So I had that in addition to everything else this time too.
• 1:38:58
  So man, I had it. We had it all.
• 1:39:00
  And we just kind of waiting on Steve.
• 1:39:03
  We're like, oh come on, where we're going next?
• 1:39:05
  Well, the next place we went, Liz, was your favorite place.
• 1:39:09
  I know I had FOMO. I know, I know you weren't
• 1:39:14
  there, but I helped represent the place well.
• 1:39:18
  And we went to the we went to the world famous Brink.
• 1:39:21
  Brink. Brink.
• 1:39:23
  We love it. That's right.
• 1:39:24
  I know Scott had been there once.
• 1:39:26
  The Hill Tappers It was their first time ever at Brink Brewing
• 1:39:31
  and Liz. You guys got to see you got to
• 1:39:34
  see the whole patio redo Outback.
• 1:39:37
  Yep. Yeah, yeah, because we walked in
• 1:39:39
  from that way, I think. I had I had some big time
• 1:39:42
  breaking news that happened at Brink.
• 1:39:44
  What was that? Do I forget if?
• 1:39:46
  You know the West Coast IPA tour that's going.
• 1:39:49
  On that, I'm on Amazon. Oh oh, I feel like this is going
• 1:39:53
  to be a big news. This is big news.
• 1:39:55
  This is breaking news on the Brewery Underground podcast.
• 1:39:58
  Their West Coast IPA, the. Operatic IPA.
• 1:40:02
  You heard it here first. Folks, she will be here all week
• 1:40:07
  from the breaking news desk. Dramatic pause here.
• 1:40:12
  Drum roll please. The. 1st.
• 1:40:14
  Time. Ever.
• 1:40:16
  It would of course make sense. The brewery that I grew up the
• 1:40:20
  closest to, I've rated the highest I've ever rated a West
• 1:40:24
  Coast IPA. Now.
• 1:40:27
  Operatic IPA at Brink Brewing. I rated not a four because I had
• 1:40:33
  not even rated A4 on on tap of a West Coast IPA.
• 1:40:38
  Nah man, we took it to a 4.2. Five.
• 1:40:42
  Wow, that. Is big news.
• 1:40:45
  That is big news. Wow, what a jump.
• 1:40:48
  What a jump. What was the previously highest
• 1:40:51
  rated West Coast IPA 375? Probably 3. .75 Yep.
• 1:40:56
  Had a lot of those checked in if you're.
• 1:40:58
  Like backing up my brink is the best statement so.
• 1:41:02
  Yeah, I hadn't jumped over, I hadn't jumped into the four
• 1:41:04
  realm yet. And I was like, you know what?
• 1:41:08
  This one, this is a fantastic West Coast IPA at our level.
• 1:41:14
  You know, I was there for it. I remember you talking about it
• 1:41:18
  and I'm still in disbelief. I saw.
• 1:41:23
  It I think you were kind of paying attention to your own
• 1:41:26
  beer there, Scott. There was a lot going on that
• 1:41:29
  day. There's a lot I do remember you
• 1:41:31
  talking about that, that this is your, This is like a moment like
• 1:41:34
  this is the highest rated West Coast FK you've ever had.
• 1:41:36
  Anyways, yes, I do recall. Well, and then, you know, Brad
• 1:41:40
  from our The Hill Tappers likes to call it the Sully scale.
• 1:41:44
  You know. It's like, you know, I do what I
• 1:41:47
  do. And then the other one I had Liz
• 1:41:49
  and we, I know we had a bit of a debate on this one, but I rate
• 1:41:52
  it high, the Gold Top IPA. Yeah, I was always under the
• 1:41:57
  impression that was named after the gold top creamy dairy bar.
• 1:42:02
  That was where Steve and I hailed and got our, you know,
• 1:42:06
  summer ice creams from. It's still round, too.
• 1:42:09
  It still exists to this day. They're in White Oak, right down
• 1:42:12
  the street from White Oak Junior Cry.
• 1:42:14
  Can't miss it. It's a gold pyramid top.
• 1:42:17
  It is. It's been around.
• 1:42:19
  It's been around all my life. And Scott's like, yeah, OK, all
• 1:42:21
  right, yeah. Much, much like the name Gold
• 1:42:24
  Top. I'll tell you, I had a weird one
• 1:42:27
  there and I say it was a king cake.
• 1:42:29
  It was called King cake. Liz, have you had that one?
• 1:42:32
  I have, and I think that was one of our friends from Louisville's
• 1:42:36
  favorite beer of the trend. It was.
• 1:42:38
  Tom loved that beer. Yes, and the more.
• 1:42:41
  The more he had, the more he liked it.
• 1:42:44
  Yeah, that's definitely for earlier in the year holidays.
• 1:42:48
  Yeah, but. It's a good one.
• 1:42:50
  It's kind of a, it's kind of a winter, winter ale type with the
• 1:42:54
  spice and stuff in there and it's good.
• 1:42:56
  I guess Kincake was kind of related to like Mardi Gras or
• 1:42:59
  something. I guess it's kind of somehow and
• 1:43:02
  it was OK. I'm not hating on it, man.
• 1:43:04
  The more you drank, the more it kind of weighed on you.
• 1:43:07
  It was like, I can't wait for this to be a.
• 1:43:08
  Heavier beer. I think it's sweeter.
• 1:43:11
  You know you got to be in the right mood for that one.
• 1:43:14
  A lot of spice. There was a lot of spice in it.
• 1:43:16
  Yeah. He Tom loved that.
• 1:43:18
  Yes, that was his favorite and I was like, Oh well I bet you they
• 1:43:22
  had some bottles you could take home.
• 1:43:23
  So because they have their little refrigerator right there
• 1:43:25
  that you can grab some to go. From I did have a moozy and
• 1:43:30
  isn't moozy Steve that gold winning for the World Cup 2025?
• 1:43:34
  Didn't they win gold Moozy? Cincinnati correspondent Liz,
• 1:43:39
  our Moozy expert. Wasn't that in our episode?
• 1:43:42
  Did win World Cup gold medal? Gold.
• 1:43:45
  That's right, yes. For milk.
• 1:43:47
  Sweet. Stout, yes, and they had another
• 1:43:49
  World Cup win with Little Zoomy. So that's my other favorite at
• 1:43:55
  Brink Moozy and Little Zoomy. Dark Beers and Little Zoomy was
• 1:44:00
  a collab with Laturza Coffee, which is down the street.
• 1:44:04
  So it's just it's got a nice little pick me up to it.
• 1:44:06
  It's the, I would call it the espresso martini of beers.
• 1:44:10
  You get a little Zing with that 1, so it's a good time.
• 1:44:13
  Again, another place that had a ton of different styles.
• 1:44:16
  I had a lime logger, I had the IPAI, had that New England IPI,
• 1:44:20
  had the milk stuff, I had the winter.
• 1:44:22
  Like, it's all sorts of things you can get.
• 1:44:25
  I do love that about there because, you know, sometimes you
• 1:44:27
  go to different breweries and they'll have, you know, a
• 1:44:30
  majority of one style of beer on the board.
• 1:44:32
  And if you're someone who likes multiple styles or, you know,
• 1:44:36
  maybe you're a dark beer person in the summer thinking, oh man,
• 1:44:39
  what am I going to do? I I do love that Brink always
• 1:44:43
  has a little bit of everything on the board.
• 1:44:45
  You know, they have multiple rotating, you know, seasonal
• 1:44:48
  beers as well, but they do have like a core group of beers that
• 1:44:52
  are multiple styled. And Steve, if I ever remember it
• 1:44:55
  didn't, wasn't their Flight 5 on the flight?
• 1:44:58
  Yeah, you know, most of four that was a, you get a fifth one
• 1:45:02
  on that one which is nice and kind of add that extra style if
• 1:45:05
  you need it. And not everybody does that.
• 1:45:07
  W 6th house did that. They did a flight of five when I
• 1:45:10
  walked in there. So yeah, yeah, they're fancy.
• 1:45:13
  Yeah. Well.
• 1:45:15
  Yes, we love, we love Brink and it's always cool to get new
• 1:45:19
  people there because I said, I think Scott, you'd only maybe
• 1:45:22
  been there once. I remember I took there a couple
• 1:45:24
  years ago and I think I've been to Brink now probably at least a
• 1:45:28
  dozen times, Been there with Liz a couple of times.
• 1:45:30
  And so it's always a great time. And I have a feeling the next
• 1:45:34
  time I come in town, Liz will probably end up there again.
• 1:45:36
  We'll we'll be back. We'll be back.
• 1:45:38
  It's a good. Spot.
• 1:45:39
  We'll be doing it live. Doing it live.
• 1:45:44
  Well, we from Brink, you know, Scott, we teased this earlier
• 1:45:49
  because there had been a brewery.
• 1:45:51
  We hit town. We had only been there for half
• 1:45:53
  an hour. We were in a hurry.
• 1:45:58
  The Reds game got moved up. We were going to pregame at
• 1:46:02
  Rhinegeist on that Friday. When we got in town, we were
• 1:46:05
  going to be there for like two, 2 1/2 hours at least and we only
• 1:46:10
  and we got there and we realized we were pressed for time.
• 1:46:14
  So we only got there when we went to Rhine Geist and hit
• 1:46:18
  town. We were only there for half hour
• 1:46:21
  and then we got on the streetcar and we realized when we got got
• 1:46:24
  out of there, there is no way you can do Rhine Geist justice
• 1:46:29
  by only staying for half hour. So we came back.
• 1:46:32
  So we went. Kind of you to go back and give
• 1:46:36
  it another tour. Twist the arm.
• 1:46:39
  Twist the arm. I mean, they've earned it.
• 1:46:43
  Ryan Geiss has earned it. Go back a second time.
• 1:46:46
  We were happy to go back. We couldn't wait to get back.
• 1:46:49
  And by the way, and we would make sure we spend a lot of time
• 1:46:51
  there this time. Liz, you joined us.
• 1:46:54
  I did because I could have a beer this time.
• 1:46:56
  You finally came, but you came back.
• 1:46:58
  All right, I'm back now. Here's the great here's one of
• 1:47:00
  the great things. We got to spend some time, went
• 1:47:02
  to the rooftop. Steve, if you recall, if we
• 1:47:04
  looked on the board, there were a couple of beer names up there
• 1:47:08
  which I had not noticed. I don't know if you noticed or
• 1:47:10
  someone else noticed. I took a picture of it.
• 1:47:12
  When we. First walked in there when we
• 1:47:14
  were only there half hour I. Noticed you noticed the first
• 1:47:17
  time, yes. OK, so we got our picture the
• 1:47:19
  second time we went back. Well, they had two beer names
• 1:47:22
  that were pretty basically named after Steve and I.
• 1:47:25
  The Brewery Underground podcast Beer.
• 1:47:28
  Not quite that specific, but there was, there was, there was
• 1:47:31
  a Scotty and a Steve and they were on the board and they were
• 1:47:34
  right next to each other. It's like they knew we were
• 1:47:36
  coming. I mean, they knew they were
• 1:47:39
  welcome. Did you guys try those beers?
• 1:47:41
  Of course. And I'd had, I'd had the Steve
• 1:47:44
  before. It's pretty good.
• 1:47:45
  I'd had the Steve. Well, I had the Scott before I
• 1:47:47
  had not I, so I had the Steve That time we got a little
• 1:47:50
  pictures under little names. Isn't the cute?
• 1:47:52
  And I know it was named for they.
• 1:47:55
  They wouldn't tell us it was named for us, but they weren't
• 1:47:57
  named for us. I know I.
• 1:47:59
  Know delicious beers so. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:48:02
  But we did get to to the rooftop this time and got to spend
• 1:48:07
  several hours. We spent a lot of time out
• 1:48:11
  there. Liz was there, the hill tappers
• 1:48:13
  were there and that's another thing that went through my mind
• 1:48:16
  that day. I'm like, so we're starting the
• 1:48:18
  day on a Monday at Mantri, We're one of the first people here and
• 1:48:24
  we're ending the day on a Monday at Rhengeist.
• 1:48:28
  And we basically closed the place and we were one of the
• 1:48:33
  last ones there on the rooftop and in the whole place.
• 1:48:36
  So I think we all won. And Liz, you're a champ because
• 1:48:39
  even though you were working, you still came out on a Monday
• 1:48:43
  to have a beer with us. Well.
• 1:48:46
  I love a rooftop. Those are my favorite all summer
• 1:48:49
  long. I have a my own personal list of
• 1:48:52
  rooftops I have to hit this summer.
• 1:48:54
  So yeah, can't turn down a good night with sunshine friends.
• 1:48:59
  I was excited to try my favorite BearCat beer, the Sensi Lite
• 1:49:04
  Lime, the new little summertime version of Since A Light, and I
• 1:49:10
  ended up having that again at Taste of Cincinnati last week,
• 1:49:13
  and I think I've decided that might be the beer of summer, so,
• 1:49:17
  you know. What I actually had that that
• 1:49:20
  was my beer of choice. When we got to Rungeist and we
• 1:49:24
  were only there for half hour, I got it.
• 1:49:27
  I really hope they can that cuz that I can see yeah being a
• 1:49:31
  poolside boat beer slash tailgating beer this fall cuz
• 1:49:36
  I'm sure they'll have some leftover and carry on over into
• 1:49:39
  football tailgating season. So.
• 1:49:42
  Yeah, nice refreshing beer. Yeah.
• 1:49:44
  Anything that you kind of put lime in.
• 1:49:45
  In light beers like that they always work out pretty good.
• 1:49:48
  Well, it was a it was a fun time all around.
• 1:49:50
  And then we ended up group of us, we ended up went over to
• 1:49:53
  Yard House after that little little.
• 1:49:55
  Because we were looking, yeah, we were looking for a place that
• 1:49:58
  was still open. Yeah.
• 1:50:01
  Mondays are hard. It's industry night.
• 1:50:03
  So yeah. And you, you guys were champs.
• 1:50:06
  You were a whole day of events and you even carried on past my
• 1:50:11
  bedtimes. I'll tell you this though, when
• 1:50:14
  we got to Yard House, we got some food, I got a beer.
• 1:50:17
  I got about three 3/4 of the way through that beer and I'm like,
• 1:50:20
  I can't drink another freaking beer today.
• 1:50:22
  I was full more, not just from like.
• 1:50:25
  Coma. Overcame me two times that week.
• 1:50:29
  And the second time it happened was the last place we were at
• 1:50:33
  when you and you and myself and Liz were hanging out.
• 1:50:36
  But we'll talk about that here in a minute because, you know,
• 1:50:40
  that led us to the last day we were there, Scott.
• 1:50:42
  And that was on the Tuesday, May 20th, where Liz, who always
• 1:50:49
  knows everywhere to go, she knows everything.
• 1:50:53
  She recommended a great breakfast place for us, my
• 1:50:56
  favorite spot on my breakfast and when in the food coming
• 1:50:59
  right away but it was so great. It's a it's a little known, you
• 1:51:03
  know, you wouldn't know it was there because it doesn't
• 1:51:05
  necessarily stand out, but to the locals, it's the place to
• 1:51:10
  be. It's only open for breakfast and
• 1:51:12
  lunch, but it's in Hyde Park Square.
• 1:51:15
  It's called the Echo. So it's a small, tiny little
• 1:51:18
  diner. Can't go wrong.
• 1:51:20
  You can order breakfast at any point in time or lunch at any
• 1:51:23
  point in time. So, and they also have of, you
• 1:51:26
  know, mimosas and Bloody Marys for those who are ready to start
• 1:51:31
  their day early with their vitamins.
• 1:51:33
  What do you guys get? Egg salad sandwich, Steve, what
• 1:51:36
  did you get? I've got a very big eggs
• 1:51:41
  Benedict, the biggest eggs Benedict I've ever had in my
• 1:51:45
  life, and some potatoes on the side and they were awesome.
• 1:51:50
  But then I was like, man, I'm about to go into a food coma
• 1:51:53
  here, and it kind of followed me all through the day.
• 1:51:55
  Yeah, but it was a. It was a.
• 1:51:57
  Great way to start the day. And I had said I had not been in
• 1:52:01
  Hyde, the Hyde Park area of Cincinnati in many in many a
• 1:52:06
  year. So, Liz, thank you for taking us
• 1:52:08
  there. Listen, you got to start your
• 1:52:11
  drinking day right? We got to, you know, get you a
• 1:52:13
  good base and make sure you were recovered from the night before.
• 1:52:17
  So they do a good job there of filling you up and getting you
• 1:52:22
  ready for the day. That's right, and a double order
• 1:52:25
  of eggs Benedict. Whoa, yeah, buddy, next time I'm
• 1:52:29
  gonna I'm gonna bring my twin with me and be like, OK.
• 1:52:33
  I know I kept trying to get you guys to order the hot mess,
• 1:52:35
  which is also a champion of breakfast there.
• 1:52:38
  I mean, it's, it's yeah, it's, it's everything piled onto 1
• 1:52:42
  plate. And yeah.
• 1:52:44
  And they have the vegetarian version too, for those who are
• 1:52:48
  not into Guetta or sausage or bacon.
• 1:52:52
  Well, it was a mighty fine breakfast to start the day.
• 1:52:55
  It was good. And I felt like it was a mighty
• 1:52:58
  fine breakfast to to get us on to where we finally went.
• 1:53:04
  It's been long overdue. It's been a long, long, long
• 1:53:08
  overdue trip to where we went next.
• 1:53:10
  One of the best breweries in Cincinnati.
• 1:53:14
  We knew and I've known for years about this place.
• 1:53:17
  I just haven't been able to get there.
• 1:53:19
  Little Miami and Milford, Holy cow.
• 1:53:23
  That's what I'm going to say. Guys.
• 1:53:25
  Talk about Little Miami. Steve, it's been our list for a
• 1:53:28
  long time. We've talked about it for years.
• 1:53:30
  Like you said earlier, geographically it's never kind
• 1:53:33
  of worked. So we made it work this time and
• 1:53:35
  it was well worth the visit. There's a distillery right
• 1:53:38
  across the street that next time we're going to go visit, we're
• 1:53:41
  going to, we're going to, we're going to plan a little better
• 1:53:43
  next time we go visit that. But the place was phenomenal.
• 1:53:46
  Another one we checked off like we, I didn't have any food
• 1:53:48
  there. I don't know if you guys did.
• 1:53:50
  Beer was fantastic. The space is awesome.
• 1:53:52
  It rained so much we could not sit outside.
• 1:53:54
  It's literally on the river. You could sit out there.
• 1:53:58
  With your beer. I think had it been sunny and
• 1:54:01
  about 80° I'm not so sure we would have gone anywhere else
• 1:54:05
  the rest of the day. That's a fair point.
• 1:54:08
  You can go canoeing at one of the local canoe spots and hop
• 1:54:12
  out of your canoe and walk up the hill and sit on the patio
• 1:54:15
  and have a beer and then get back in your canoe and continue
• 1:54:18
  on your journey. So yes.
• 1:54:20
  I just wish we could have, weather permitting, we could
• 1:54:23
  have sat out there and just done that because that would have
• 1:54:25
  been cool as shit. Well, good things Steve put it
• 1:54:28
  back on the list. Oh yes.
• 1:54:30
  Oh, yeah, It was on the top of the priority list.
• 1:54:35
  Like that was basically like the non negotiable, we're going
• 1:54:38
  there unless, you know, my legs are broken or, you know, Scott
• 1:54:42
  broke my legs because he got sick and tired of me or
• 1:54:44
  something. No, I mean, seriously, it's just
• 1:54:50
  a huge space inside. And the thing that really struck
• 1:54:53
  me is I don't think I've ever been to a brewery where you look
• 1:54:56
  up and they have like a little thing they will flash.
• 1:55:00
  And it wasn't that when we were there of how much time you have
• 1:55:04
  to wait, like, you know, 15 minute wait, 20 minute wait, 40
• 1:55:08
  minute wait. There wasn't a wait when we got
• 1:55:11
  there. But I'm going, how many
• 1:55:12
  breweries have that? And I can understand why because
• 1:55:16
  Milford's such a unique area with a lot to do anyway.
• 1:55:20
  And I kept thinking, and we were, I mean, we got there what,
• 1:55:24
  probably about 1:00 in the afternoon or something.
• 1:55:26
  And if you could. Spend a whole day in Milford and
• 1:55:29
  they just, they have a lot of unique things to do.
• 1:55:32
  The Nature Center is not too far from there.
• 1:55:34
  You can go on a little hike. They have a whole bunch of
• 1:55:37
  restaurants, little shops to check out on that street.
• 1:55:40
  Yeah, there's definitely a distillery across the street
• 1:55:43
  that you can, you know, get your fine beers at one location, get
• 1:55:47
  your fine bourbon and whiskey across the street.
• 1:55:49
  So yeah, you can have. A whole day of there.
• 1:55:52
  That'll be part of the plan next.
• 1:55:53
  There's a rooftop at that distillery too, so.
• 1:55:56
  Is there. So yeah, we just, we just need a
• 1:55:59
  nice day. Yeah, you guys need to go back
• 1:56:03
  when it's sunny and experience the outdoor prowess of this
• 1:56:08
  brewery, cuz you've got to see the really cool indoor feature
• 1:56:12
  and spot. But yeah, you should definitely
• 1:56:14
  see it at its sunshiny best. We've talked about ambiance in a
• 1:56:17
  few places that we've been to on this trip so far and to sit on a
• 1:56:20
  river to drink beer and just that would be another example of
• 1:56:24
  it. Just my God.
• 1:56:26
  And on a 75° day, it's like we're not going anywhere else.
• 1:56:30
  I mean, it's Little Miami Brewing sitting on the Little
• 1:56:32
  Miami River. So yeah, it's perfectly named
• 1:56:35
  and I think you guys had some good beers there.
• 1:56:38
  I know I had the Saint James Dry Irish Stout, which I really
• 1:56:43
  loved. The other one I had was the 71
• 1:56:47
  Peaches and I said the sky. So there's a brewery in Bristol,
• 1:56:51
  TN that we, we, we've come to know the owner a little bit and
• 1:56:57
  they also have a beer, Johnson City Brewing.
• 1:57:00
  It's Peaches and it reminded me of that beer.
• 1:57:04
  This thing was fantastic. I absolutely loved it.
• 1:57:08
  And then I also got there turn the page of sour fruited and
• 1:57:13
  again, another brewery that has such a big, big, big diversity
• 1:57:17
  of beer. I'm I mean, I don't know how
• 1:57:19
  often they change their tap list.
• 1:57:22
  I'm I'm assuming they do a lot and they have, I think you'd
• 1:57:24
  said there too, Scott, that they have food out there.
• 1:57:27
  So just a wonderful place. Yeah, and we've not mentioned
• 1:57:30
  this when you go to a brand new place like this and for a little
• 1:57:32
  Miami, I don't think I've had anything outside of the brewery
• 1:57:35
  either can on draft from another place.
• 1:57:38
  Like everything I had here was brand new that day.
• 1:57:41
  Like, I could have ordered anything on the board and not
• 1:57:43
  even thought about it, and it would have been brand new
• 1:57:45
  because I've never had a little Miami beer anywhere else ever,
• 1:57:49
  which was cool. So everything was was was
• 1:57:51
  completely brand new. Yeah, great.
• 1:57:52
  I mean, I had a grapefruit. They call it Grateful IPA, the
• 1:57:57
  Pterodactyl, which is a wheat beer and a pine drop, which I
• 1:57:59
  think was very Piney. It might have.
• 1:58:01
  It says pale ale. Dude, that was similar to like a
• 1:58:04
  West Coast IPA. It didn't say it was, but it was
• 1:58:06
  pretty close to one. Yeah, even they called it pale
• 1:58:09
  like it was very Piney. But anyway, great friggin spot.
• 1:58:12
  Another one to go back to that we will have to go back to.
• 1:58:15
  Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:58:17
  In the distillery across the street.
• 1:58:19
  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:58:21
  And you know that I, as I mentioned before, I mean, you,
• 1:58:23
  you got to go through a lot of nice areas out there.
• 1:58:26
  You go through an area called Indian Hill, where I know Liz is
• 1:58:30
  the neighbor of Joe. Burrow.
• 1:58:32
  They probably hang out at their golf courses and.
• 1:58:35
  Yeah, that's why I have to go to work to pay for my multi
• 1:58:38
  $1,000,000 house. Yes.
• 1:58:41
  But as we were going out there, I thought, yeah, this is Indian
• 1:58:44
  Hill. Somewhere in this whole area,
• 1:58:47
  there's a lot of rich people, and there's a lot of, you know,
• 1:58:50
  Joe Burrow lives probably somewhere out in that area,
• 1:58:54
  probably in a gated community. I don't know.
• 1:58:56
  You know, it would have been cool if we'd gone in there and
• 1:58:58
  maybe he would have been there, took a beer with us, but he
• 1:59:01
  wasn't. I mean, they, they, it's pretty
• 1:59:03
  out there. You're kind of getting towards a
• 1:59:05
  little bit further from the city when you get to Indian Hills.
• 1:59:08
  So, you know, like larger yards, you have some rolling landscape,
• 1:59:13
  you got some, you know, horse crossings that you have to watch
• 1:59:16
  out for on some of these back roads on the way to, you know,
• 1:59:20
  for for the horseback riders that go across the road.
• 1:59:23
  So yeah, you're getting a little bit further out.
• 1:59:25
  It's still, you know, within the 275 belt loop, but it's a little
• 1:59:30
  further out from the city. From Little Miami Scott, we went
• 1:59:34
  to another new route. Well, I went.
• 1:59:36
  I had not been. To this.
• 1:59:37
  Before you have been and that would be esoteric.
• 1:59:41
  Yes, love esoteric man. I remember how long were.
• 1:59:45
  You guys not esoteric because I think this might have been your
• 1:59:48
  longest brewery visit of the trip.
• 1:59:50
  It was a while we we went in and we knew John Reese is somebody
• 1:59:54
  we had talked to prior to come on the podcast and I had been
• 1:59:58
  already and we're going to come up there and have us meet when
• 2:00:00
  we when we get there and we get and we meet him and then he
• 2:00:03
  makes he introduces us to the head Brewer and Nick and then
• 2:00:06
  the owner Brian is there. So we end up kind of going in
• 2:00:09
  the, but he takes us in the. In the back and he starts
• 2:00:10
  bringing us beer and we ended up talking for what, 2 hours?
• 2:00:14
  Steve it. Was a while, yeah.
• 2:00:15
  We were just talking beer and he kept bringing us more beer and
• 2:00:19
  just had a great time. Really great guy.
• 2:00:21
  I mean, he was great. He actually sent us an e-mail
• 2:00:24
  today, but they're coming on the podcast.
• 2:00:25
  But so he brought us a couple of actually, one of them was a West
• 2:00:29
  Coast IPA from I think it was the Bellevue Steve, one of them.
• 2:00:32
  And then but he brought out that that Belgian quad at 10%.
• 2:00:40
  Yes. Which was delicious.
• 2:00:42
  He kept he kept wanting us to try all these things, which were
• 2:00:45
  amazing beers. And Steve goes when he brought
• 2:00:48
  that quad out, that's when things change for you.
• 2:00:52
  You were just like a. Little bit like, yeah, a little
• 2:00:55
  bit, but I have to also. There was also some breaking
• 2:00:58
  news at Esoteric the the the one you just mentioned, the Bellevue
• 2:01:02
  Hill West Coast. Yeah, uh huh.
• 2:01:05
  I too. I also rated that one breaking
• 2:01:10
  news. Breaking news. 4.25 out on top.
• 2:01:13
  Oh. Look at that.
• 2:01:16
  Look at that. We got two 4.2 fives.
• 2:01:19
  Doing it, baby. Doing it.
• 2:01:20
  The West Coast IPA Tour from Cincinnati.
• 2:01:24
  You guys are going to have a lot to talk about with these guys
• 2:01:26
  when they come on. Oh yeah, they're really great.
• 2:01:30
  John was really great. Again, we got to meet several of
• 2:01:32
  them. I won't even say better than
• 2:01:34
  expected, but it really was we just again, when you talk to
• 2:01:37
  people and have an experience and they start bringing your
• 2:01:40
  stuff out and you just talk. We talked for two hours just
• 2:01:43
  about beer and and he was passionate and he was happy to
• 2:01:46
  talk to us and he was like, come on back here and happy to come
• 2:01:50
  on the podcast. You just said it kind of
• 2:01:51
  excitement. It's like, oh man, this is this
• 2:01:53
  is easy. It almost.
• 2:01:54
  Kind of sounds like it felt like a little family experience, like
• 2:01:57
  you were getting invited to the family, you know, dinner table
• 2:02:00
  to sit there and try everything. We did and I felt awkward at
• 2:02:03
  first like hey guys, you got stuff to do with me.
• 2:02:05
  No stay. Would you like this other one
• 2:02:08
  here? I'll go get you a couple of
• 2:02:09
  others. And he brought more beers back
• 2:02:11
  so it's like don't leave. And we felt welcomed, I guess is
• 2:02:14
  ultimately what I'm trying. To say that's awesome you got
• 2:02:16
  welcomed into the family. Yeah, it was really cool.
• 2:02:20
  And another. And another freaking Mexican
• 2:02:24
  logger there. Another great Mexican.
• 2:02:26
  Saying if it's trending, it's trending.
• 2:02:28
  Yeah, there you go. It it really is so great place.
• 2:02:31
  Steve, what did you think about that Belgian Kwai?
• 2:02:34
  Because I loved it. Oh, I loved it.
• 2:02:36
  Yeah. I'm I mean, I think I rated
• 2:02:38
  about a four on the top. I had to go back and look, but
• 2:02:41
  yeah, it was really good because I had that and I had another IPA
• 2:02:44
  called the Lotus. It was also really good.
• 2:02:47
  And I the only so the only thing I knew about esoteric be
• 2:02:52
  obviously I knew they were a brewery over that way.
• 2:02:54
  I had had some other beer on can that I picked up over the years
• 2:02:59
  from party source. And even though I know, you
• 2:03:02
  know, we joke about the list, Esoteric has been on the list
• 2:03:06
  for a while. I think the last time maybe I
• 2:03:09
  was in town with Liz, I was like, I gotta get the esoteric,
• 2:03:11
  you know, and never never got over there, you know, I think, I
• 2:03:14
  think that that's just what it was.
• 2:03:16
  But I was glad that we got to. It now so.
• 2:03:19
  Yeah. Hey, Liz.
• 2:03:20
  When we walked in, the place was popping like it was like they
• 2:03:24
  had some kind of, what would you call it, like a corporate event
• 2:03:26
  or something like something but not but not like a private
• 2:03:30
  event. Space for days.
• 2:03:32
  They like to host of a lot of events there during the week.
• 2:03:35
  They always have different groups.
• 2:03:36
  Like they have a karaoke night. They occasionally host like
• 2:03:40
  salsa night there. So like the whole front room
• 2:03:44
  turns into like a salsa dancing area.
• 2:03:47
  There's a backroom that can have a party simultaneously.
• 2:03:49
  There's a really cool window where you can grab food from.
• 2:03:53
  Yeah. And then they even have some
• 2:03:54
  tables Outback in the sunshine that you can go sit.
• 2:03:56
  But it was raining that day, so I'm sure you guys didn't sit
• 2:03:58
  back there. No.
• 2:04:00
  No. But yeah, no, it's a huge
• 2:04:02
  functional space. So they have a lot of options
• 2:04:04
  with that and they try to, you know, have a lot of community
• 2:04:07
  events during the week too. Yeah, it was for like, again,
• 2:04:09
  some kind of corporate or something.
• 2:04:11
  And we walked in, got beer and stuff.
• 2:04:13
  And then he was like, we were like, hey, it's John Reese here.
• 2:04:16
  And coincidentally, if he was the guy that served as beer
• 2:04:18
  initially, we didn't know. And he goes like, oh, it's he's
• 2:04:22
  like, oh, it's you. He goes, come back here.
• 2:04:24
  So we kind of went in the back and got away from the kind of
• 2:04:26
  the crowd out there. And again, like you said, kind
• 2:04:28
  of get welcomed into the family for a little bit.
• 2:04:30
  So it was really, it was a really cool experience.
• 2:04:32
  And two hours went by like that. I'm excited to hear this
• 2:04:36
  podcast. Yeah, they're going to be great.
• 2:04:38
  And we don't know if Brian's coming on.
• 2:04:39
  We got an e-mail from John today, but John and Anique,
• 2:04:42
  who's the head Brewer are coming on for sure.
• 2:04:44
  So very cool. It's going to be, it's going to
• 2:04:45
  be great. And again, his passion just,
• 2:04:48
  it's exciting and I don't know. They're in a good spot in the
• 2:04:52
  neighborhood too. There's all sorts of like good
• 2:04:54
  stuff going on around there. So, you know, they're in a good
• 2:04:57
  neighborhood, good spot, and a lot of things to grow in a
• 2:05:00
  positive way. Well, it was.
• 2:05:03
  It was. Great to check them off the
• 2:05:04
  list. I know for me and you know, the
• 2:05:08
  plan was, and I mentioned in the beginning the podcast that there
• 2:05:11
  were a bunch of breweries we'd hope to get to and the one that
• 2:05:14
  was on our priority list and we got there last year.
• 2:05:17
  We were going to go to it after Esoteric, but Esoteric just kept
• 2:05:22
  us for a long time. I looked at Scott, I said I
• 2:05:24
  think we need to call an audible here.
• 2:05:26
  We were going to go to St. Side and instead I said maybe we
• 2:05:31
  should go a little bit closer where we're staying maybe get
• 2:05:34
  some food and we were we were you were texting us I.
• 2:05:38
  Was trying to give you options. I let you know.
• 2:05:40
  I was throwing out the bat signal options like where do you
• 2:05:43
  want to go? Because I also heard that Steve
• 2:05:44
  was hungry. So we were trying to find some
• 2:05:47
  spots that had some good food and yeah, we ended up at an old.
• 2:05:52
  Sullivan family favorite, The old Sullivan family favorite.
• 2:05:57
  That's right. We went to Wiedemann and I know
• 2:06:02
  I've talked about this on the podcast before that Wiedemann in
• 2:06:04
  Saint Bernard, Ohio, basically where I grew up as a kid because
• 2:06:10
  of my grandparents were from there.
• 2:06:11
  And you know, this place used to be a Funeral Home and used to
• 2:06:15
  be, you know, where we had the funerals were like the
• 2:06:18
  Sullivans. And I can't even tell you how
• 2:06:21
  many funerals I went to as a kid there.
• 2:06:23
  And now it's a brewery. It's been a brewery for a while.
• 2:06:26
  And the thing that always stands out is the fact that they still
• 2:06:29
  go into the bathroom. And I'm like many, many years
• 2:06:32
  later, the bathroom still looks the same.
• 2:06:34
  They have such a good eclectic collection of just paraphernalia
• 2:06:40
  everywhere, signs, lights, just all sorts of cool stuff in
• 2:06:45
  there. It's it's a treasure trove of
• 2:06:47
  collector items. I'm glad we went cuz it did work
• 2:06:51
  out for all of us because it was we could get food right?
• 2:06:54
  Taco Tuesday it. Was Taco Tuesday I actually got
• 2:06:58
  tacos and. Scott's favorite part of the
• 2:07:01
  whole trip was here cuz little did we know when we sat down
• 2:07:06
  that it was also Singo night. That's.
• 2:07:09
  Right. Now I've got no problem with
• 2:07:11
  singo. The style of music being played
• 2:07:15
  was a little not my I didn't it was.
• 2:07:18
  Fabulous. What can I say, It was fabulous.
• 2:07:22
  I don't say this. We had to have a lot of help
• 2:07:24
  with our board, and that's what you were the help, that's what.
• 2:07:30
  I'm. Saying like, they played that
• 2:07:33
  one, they played that one, marked that one out, they played
• 2:07:35
  that one. I don't know any of this shit.
• 2:07:39
  You knew some. You knew some.
• 2:07:40
  I knew some, but that was part of that was part of the fun too.
• 2:07:43
  It was like, well, I don't know nothing.
• 2:07:45
  It was fun. It was a little.
• 2:07:47
  Surprise. It was.
• 2:07:49
  It was fun. Yes, it was fun for me to end
• 2:07:51
  the trip at A at an old place that I'm very familiar with and
• 2:07:56
  yeah, by the time I got there I was like I am food and beer.
• 2:07:59
  I'm in food beer coma almost get got a lot of great food had the
• 2:08:04
  monkeys dunkle there and that was good.
• 2:08:07
  But yeah, but it. Was I was drinking the beer
• 2:08:09
  Ritas because it was Taco Tuesday and the beer Ritas were
• 2:08:13
  on special. So we we definitely had to have
• 2:08:16
  a couple of those. But I know Scott tried a whole
• 2:08:18
  bunch of beers. Yeah, they had one called, you
• 2:08:20
  know, there was the little thing of Pete Rose was, you know,
• 2:08:23
  Steve, you took a picture next to him.
• 2:08:25
  But they had a beer called Pete. It was just called Pete
• 2:08:27
  exclamation point, which was the cold IPAI guess it was, you
• 2:08:31
  know, reference to Pete Rose. I I assume.
• 2:08:32
  And and they had one called a Muster Club coach.
• 2:08:36
  I don't really know what the Muster Club art means, but it
• 2:08:39
  was a coach. It was, it was lovely.
• 2:08:41
  And we we really did have a good time.
• 2:08:43
  As much as I complained about the music, I was having a good.
• 2:08:46
  Scott was dancing. Don't, don't let him fool you
• 2:08:48
  guys. He was dancing in a seat.
• 2:08:50
  He was, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:08:51
  Yeah, there's no video of that. A little Rick Ashley.
• 2:08:54
  There. All recorded up here.
• 2:08:57
  It was OK as long as it's there. We had a good time.
• 2:09:01
  We were there till the end, literally till the end.
• 2:09:04
  We weren't, you know, it's amazing.
• 2:09:05
  We shut a few places down while we were in Cincinnati.
• 2:09:09
  We do that. But you know what?
• 2:09:10
  Like every good Hostess, I made sure that you left waitamons
• 2:09:15
  with a little surprise back waiting for you at your Airbnb
• 2:09:19
  we. Had some some graters bourbon
• 2:09:23
  ice cream and it was fabulous. Off the charts.
• 2:09:29
  When I got but when we got back that night, I do firework, it
• 2:09:34
  was great. I just I destroyed it.
• 2:09:35
  It was it. Was fantastic.
• 2:09:38
  Well, I know these two like their beers, but I know they
• 2:09:40
  also like their bourbon. So it was a graters new Rift
• 2:09:44
  distillery collab. So it was, you know, bourbon
• 2:09:47
  ball. They had little pecans in there.
• 2:09:51
  And as I told Scott, I said, you know, for not being the
• 2:09:54
  Cincinnati native, just wait till you get the big giant
• 2:09:57
  chocolate chip because when they make that stuff, they pour
• 2:10:00
  liquid chocolate and however it forms, it forms.
• 2:10:02
  So sometimes you can get these ginormous chocolate chips in
• 2:10:05
  your ice cream. There was a vein.
• 2:10:07
  I showed it to Steve. There was a vein of chocolate
• 2:10:09
  that went through mine. You know, like it, just like it
• 2:10:12
  was like it was this long. It was a damn nothing but
• 2:10:15
  chocolate. It was fabulous.
• 2:10:16
  It was perfect. I appreciated it for you got to
• 2:10:19
  eat ice cream with bourbon in it, so I thought it was
• 2:10:22
  fabulous. Yes, that's the angle I was
• 2:10:24
  coming from. It's ice cream with kind of
• 2:10:26
  bourbon added and the spice and things too.
• 2:10:28
  Yeah. So it was lovely.
• 2:10:30
  It was perfect. It's a 5 out of five.
• 2:10:32
  Absolutely. And it was, you know, you really
• 2:10:34
  can't get wrong most time with Creators ice cream.
• 2:10:37
  And of course, you know, I had that that Graders collab the
• 2:10:40
  beer at Braxton on the trip too. So, you know, the best of both
• 2:10:44
  worlds. Gotta love it.
• 2:10:46
  Scott. Excellent.
• 2:10:47
  Before we get to some stats on the trip, yeah, OK, there's
• 2:10:50
  something there's something that we have to talk about because.
• 2:10:55
  Am I in trouble? Well, no.
• 2:10:57
  But on the previous. Podcast you had mentioned you
• 2:11:00
  were gonna be bringing this and I asked you about it.
• 2:11:04
  Liz, he was going to bring us some chili beer that he made.
• 2:11:09
  Oh yeah, we don't want. And he did not.
• 2:11:12
  Oh, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, it.
• 2:11:15
  Didn't turn out. It didn't turn out.
• 2:11:17
  Well, brew it again and then we can.
• 2:11:19
  I will pair it with some skyline.
• 2:11:22
  Yeah, something when I say it didn't turn out, I'm not saying
• 2:11:25
  it tasted bad, I'm saying it turned.
• 2:11:27
  It got vinegary soury. So.
• 2:11:29
  So something got in it. I don't know.
• 2:11:32
  We will revisit it, I promise. Yeah.
• 2:11:35
  Like, if it just tasted bad, I'd be like, hey, try it, don't it?
• 2:11:38
  It went bad. What happened?
• 2:11:40
  It dawned on me about halfway through our trip and I'm like,
• 2:11:42
  wait a minute. And.
• 2:11:45
  I were supposed to drink that. Beer we were.
• 2:11:47
  Supposed to try that beer. We.
• 2:11:49
  Were going to. Use pictures of that beer.
• 2:11:52
  If, again, if it just tasted bad, it'd be one thing.
• 2:11:56
  I'm not going to give you sour beer.
• 2:11:58
  Well, we don't want that. No, no, it is.
• 2:12:00
  I'll. I'll do it again, I promise.
• 2:12:02
  You're pardoned. For that one.
• 2:12:04
  Yeah, huh. You're pardoned.
• 2:12:07
  OK, I think I promise if it comes out halfway, if it's not,
• 2:12:10
  if it's not turned bad, I'll give it to you even if it
• 2:12:13
  doesn't taste good. But.
• 2:12:14
  Maybe the the essence of chili Maybe.
• 2:12:18
  Did you get some Skyline chili packets while you were here for
• 2:12:22
  brewing? Think about that.
• 2:12:24
  Good thing there's a Kroger's in Nashville.
• 2:12:28
  I have the spice. I even have cocoa.
• 2:12:30
  I put cocoa in this in the thing.
• 2:12:32
  But you can get the packet of flavors from Skyline.
• 2:12:35
  It's like the Skyline Chili packet.
• 2:12:37
  Yeah, Scott. Secret ingredients included.
• 2:12:41
  Oh, oh, the secret ingredients. Oh yeah, secret ingredients.
• 2:12:45
  Maybe that's the move. Maybe that's the move on the
• 2:12:47
  next one. That might be.
• 2:12:50
  Then then you could pair it with a cheese Coney or a chilito or a
• 2:12:55
  three-way. You never know.
• 2:12:57
  Let's get the beer so it's not sour and then we'll figure out
• 2:13:00
  the rest. That's fair.
• 2:13:01
  Yes, fair. Also I I got your point.
• 2:13:05
  I would say. We're all gonna stand by for
• 2:13:07
  further updates. How's.
• 2:13:08
  That OK? Yes, I promise we're gonna
• 2:13:10
  revisit this. All right, well.
• 2:13:13
  So, so Steve, yeah, we've got some stats.
• 2:13:16
  We're stats guys, right? Oh, stats, yeah.
• 2:13:18
  We like stats. We're.
• 2:13:20
  We like some stats. We like stats.
• 2:13:23
  We've got some stats for this leg of the journey.
• 2:13:26
  Yeah. And when I say stats, talking
• 2:13:27
  about, you know, different beers, number of beers out, all
• 2:13:29
  that kind of stuff. So why don't you start with some
• 2:13:32
  of your stats? Well, my stats don't match up
• 2:13:35
  the year. Stats.
• 2:13:35
  No. No, that's not the thing.
• 2:13:36
  No, it's not the thing. No, we're not worried about that
• 2:13:38
  part. But I got some stats so from
• 2:13:40
  what I could tell because I had to go back and rethink about
• 2:13:44
  some some of the beers I had and how many I had.
• 2:13:48
  On that trip. Yeah.
• 2:13:50
  And on that trip I I ranked about 57 beers on that trip in
• 2:13:56
  Cincinnati. I've now hit 7 new breweries, 16
• 2:14:03
  breweries total on that trip, Rang Ice twice, Yard House
• 2:14:07
  twice. And if you count all the
• 2:14:09
  breweries over time that I've been in Cincinnati of breweries
• 2:14:14
  that I've been to. Now this does include like, you
• 2:14:16
  know, going to like BJ's and also Yard House and more line
• 2:14:21
  locker house. I stand at about 48.
• 2:14:26
  Holy shit. Yeah.
• 2:14:28
  That's more than most cities have a brewery.
• 2:14:32
  Most cities don't have 48 breweries.
• 2:14:35
  Yeah, that's. Right.
• 2:14:35
  You're you're kind of halfway. So you kind of know.
• 2:14:39
  So we're chipping away. We're chipping away.
• 2:14:41
  You know what? That number goes up.
• 2:14:43
  That number goes up every year. Yeah, Liz, you know what that
• 2:14:46
  means. We're just gonna have to come
• 2:14:47
  back and explore more. Sounds like a plan.
• 2:14:51
  There you go. And there always have to be new
• 2:14:53
  ones on the list, right? That's right.
• 2:14:55
  Well, you know, some of these spots are adding, you know,
• 2:14:58
  multiple locations, you know, like mad truth got a couple.
• 2:15:02
  I know you guys have been to the multiple Braxton locations so
• 2:15:06
  minus you downtown one. I know it we.
• 2:15:10
  Can get to all of them. Eventually, when we're both 90,
• 2:15:13
  we'll have hit the last one. Well, when you look sideways,
• 2:15:18
  Taft becomes melaton and you got to visit it again.
• 2:15:21
  So that's right, damn it, there's another one.
• 2:15:23
  Oh darn. All right.
• 2:15:24
  Well, and by the way, what I did, not what I did not include
• 2:15:28
  the 48 also includes some of the ones that I've been to that are
• 2:15:31
  now closed. So I'll throw that out.
• 2:15:33
  There, Yeah. There are a couple.
• 2:15:35
  There are a couple that that have that has since closed over
• 2:15:39
  the years, but you know. That's not your fault.
• 2:15:42
  I know they've had. All of us to winter.
• 2:15:43
  Yeah. You went to.
• 2:15:44
  Yeah, of course they count. They count.
• 2:15:47
  Exactly. So on this leg of my of this
• 2:15:49
  journey, I had 80 new beers, 86 total check insurance.
• 2:15:55
  It averaged 22 beers per day. That sounds ridiculous. 6 new
• 2:15:59
  breweries because I had been to some that you had you hadn't
• 2:16:03
  been to yet. Blah blah, so. 6 new breweries
• 2:16:05
  and 17 total breweries, including Ryan Guys twice on
• 2:16:09
  just this trick right here that we just talked about South.
• 2:16:12
  The fact that Steve, you and I went to 17 breweries in five
• 2:16:18
  days is ridiculous. It's more than three a day.
• 2:16:21
  Yes, it's ridiculous. Even if we count Ryan Guys
• 2:16:24
  twice, it's it's a lot. That's a lot for people in a
• 2:16:27
  month and we did it in five days.
• 2:16:29
  We did. We came, we conquered.
• 2:16:32
  Mission accomplished, Liz. Are you proud of us?
• 2:16:34
  So proud, so proud. Next time I feel like we need to
• 2:16:38
  add to the stats just purely Cincinnati things that you did
• 2:16:42
  so tally of some Sensi experiences too, so, you know,
• 2:16:47
  like your Red Stadium visit. Yeah, we could.
• 2:16:50
  We could keep these stats going for forever.
• 2:16:54
  We're. We're gonna have how many wild
• 2:16:55
  animals did we see at the zoo while drinking beer?
• 2:16:58
  Cuz that's happening. Yeah.
• 2:17:00
  I can't wait to not be a part of that.
• 2:17:02
  Lions and. Tigers.
• 2:17:04
  That's the. Joke here.
• 2:17:05
  Oh my. Oh boy, oh boy, Scott's excited.
• 2:17:10
  He's going to the zoo. It's gonna be fun.
• 2:17:13
  It's gonna take a lot of convincing.
• 2:17:16
  Craft beer, yeah. I can get that anywhere.
• 2:17:19
  I don't have to go to the zoo for.
• 2:17:19
  That no. OK.
• 2:17:21
  Anyway. And you what if they have an
• 2:17:23
  exclusive flavor? Yeah.
• 2:17:25
  I don't know. We'll cross that bridge when we
• 2:17:27
  get to. There you go Anyway, OK, so this
• 2:17:31
  was Part 1 of Steve. This was just half of our trip
• 2:17:35
  so far by the. Way that is true.
• 2:17:37
  We have more to talk about. Soon, yeah.
• 2:17:40
  Cleveland. Akron.
• 2:17:42
  Columbus, Louisville, you're up next.
• 2:17:46
  You're up next. Guys are halfway.
• 2:17:48
  There, that's right. Halfway there, Liz.
• 2:17:50
  I feel like I've already experienced it.
• 2:17:53
  Liz, by the way, is a champ because she joined us during the
• 2:17:56
  trip, during our trip when she was working, and she joined us
• 2:17:59
  tonight. We have to give her credit
• 2:18:01
  because she just got off work and she's been working hard and
• 2:18:06
  we're very glad that our Cincinnati correspondent could
• 2:18:08
  join us. I'm glad you guys asked and I'm
• 2:18:10
  glad I could be here because it's fun talking beer, drinking
• 2:18:14
  beer and reminiscing with friends.
• 2:18:16
  So thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure, and
• 2:18:19
  you're the only award-winning person on this podcast right
• 2:18:23
  now. You know, that is an exclusive
• 2:18:25
  award that I treasure and yeah, at some point I will have a
• 2:18:31
  trophy or something of it that is sitting on a shelf somewhere.
• 2:18:36
  You haven't got a spray painted beer can.
• 2:18:39
  Like the physical thing hasn't shown up yet.
• 2:18:41
  No, that's OK. That's OK.
• 2:18:43
  That's OK. I'll put it next to Miami when I
• 2:18:46
  get there. Well, they're handmade, so it
• 2:18:48
  takes a lot of detail. Does it come with its own
• 2:18:51
  exclusive home brew like paired with the trophy?
• 2:18:55
  Yeah, but that comes much later. You get the.
• 2:18:57
  Trophy then. Then the thing.
• 2:19:00
  Let's wrap this one up, can we? All right, we'll do it.
• 2:19:03
  We'll do it. Well, I'm going to end this on
• 2:19:05
  this note. We had a lot to talk about on
• 2:19:08
  this podcast and I had a feeling we're going to give a lot of
• 2:19:12
  other people a lot to talk about about this podcast.
• 2:19:15
  So until then, see you later. Adios, cheers.
• 2:19:20
  Cheers. We can do better Internet that
• 2:19:23
  wasn't there.