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2022 season review | Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, January 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hours. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loan and now
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  Speaker 1: a guy who demands to be saluted in the hallway,
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  Speaker 1: Jane Chadre. I get told I'm number one all the
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  Speaker 1: time by the way around here. Welcome in. It's Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday. It's the final Monday Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour of the two season. We've got a busy
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  Speaker 1: two hours ahead. Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Boselli
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  Speaker 1: and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Briscoe will join us
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  Speaker 1: shortly a season review, and then it's the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars off season. A lot of questions today about
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  Speaker 1: pending free agents. Head coach Doug Peterson spoke today. The
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  Speaker 1: locker room was open. We've got antics, fan questions and
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on at the bank as they cleaned
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  Speaker 1: out the locker room today. Players that yesterday off the
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  Speaker 1: final meetings today and now it's on to the off season.
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  Speaker 1: And head coach Doug Peterson today around noon spoke with
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  Speaker 1: the media. A lot of free agents in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room today said they want to be around this program
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  Speaker 1: moving ahead. That's a good thing for the head coach. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it means it means everything, you know, UM, to us
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  Speaker 1: as a as a staff, to UM you know, an
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  Speaker 1: organization that the guys want to be here. You know
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  Speaker 1: the nature of our business though is you can't. You
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  Speaker 1: can't resign them all. And it's unfortunate, UM, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because it is a business and it's a business decision.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we hope to try to get as
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  Speaker 1: many of the guys back as we possibly can. And
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  Speaker 1: that was my message to those guys this morning. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I met with the team as we try to try
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  Speaker 1: to resign them all we can, UM, because we want
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  Speaker 1: to keep those core guys together. You know, they were
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  Speaker 1: a big part of our success of the season and
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  Speaker 1: and UM, you know, but uh, it's a credit to
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  Speaker 1: those guys obviously that they want to be here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've established something this year that I think is sustainable
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  Speaker 1: and UM, we just gotta build on it. Now. To
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, he spoke in the locker room today on
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  Speaker 1: clean out day at the Bank and he's going into
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  Speaker 1: a regular offseason with the same staff and same players
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  Speaker 1: around him for the first time in the NFL. It
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  Speaker 1: feels good. You know knowing that just the foundation that
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  Speaker 1: we have here, that we that we set this season
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  Speaker 1: and last offseason, and just knowing that I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: in the same system and all those things moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: I Mean, I'm really excited to have that experience and
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  Speaker 1: just have all this this tape to learn from and
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  Speaker 1: so many things that you know, as as many things
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  Speaker 1: that we did good this year, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that we can do better and just just the
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  Speaker 1: improvements that we can make, and UM, that's really exciting
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  Speaker 1: moving forwar I'm not gonna have to learn new offense
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  Speaker 1: and just to have that stability. Um, it's really exciting
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  Speaker 1: for myself, for for all of our guys on offense,
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  Speaker 1: and UM, it's it's really exciting. Linebacker Foyer A. Loikin
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  Speaker 1: came over in free agency from the Falcons. Its season
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  Speaker 1: number five for him now in the books, first playoff
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  Speaker 1: run for him. What was his biggest takeaway from this season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just seeing what we're capable of when you're in
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville to see and all this time I've come together everybody, Um,
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  Speaker 1: the brotherhood that we kind of formed, and understanding what
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  Speaker 1: it takes to win game, win game, especially late in
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  Speaker 1: the season. Obviously, you want to have a cleaner season,
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  Speaker 1: got to a better start, have a better finish. But
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  Speaker 1: it was cool to see, you know, a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of guys coming in kind of seem like we're all
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  Speaker 1: knew each other and start winning games. All the availability
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  Speaker 1: from today in the locker room is on Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 1: com and Jaguars Social media. At the moment, we're on
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  Speaker 1: tinton x l a M, Jaguars dot com, Jack social media, Twitter, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: and YouTube, and we welcome in for the final time
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  Speaker 1: this season. Tony Broselli and Pete prisco I always hate
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  Speaker 1: this last day. It really stakes Pete. I mean, you're height.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta talk to your agent. Pete, It's unbelievable. What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean you gotta talk to my agent. You
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  Speaker 1: can talk to have your people call my people. We
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  Speaker 1: can work something, elt right, Yeah, we could. We could
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  Speaker 1: go year round and and pound the draft and and
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  Speaker 1: and uh you know, do minicamp and free agency. We
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  Speaker 1: can do it all. We're capable. Have your people call
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  Speaker 1: my people. JP. We'll see if our people are listening.
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  Speaker 1: You never know, Tony, same conversation for the last five years.
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  Speaker 1: And Pete and I have always said we're more than willing. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Pete's price tag is much higher than mine, but we're
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  Speaker 1: always willing to do a year round, I guess would
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  Speaker 1: be a podcast at that point, you show up. I
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  Speaker 1: show up every week. You don't. That's the biggest difference.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't miss this year? You did? You?
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  Speaker 1: You missed? You missed one half of one? Is that
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  Speaker 1: doing a golf outing Of the three of us, I'm
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  Speaker 1: the only one with perfect attendance. Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: I might say, You've done much else going on in
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  Speaker 1: your life, so I'm just doing my job about that. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: JP Tony with a J and on the way out
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  Speaker 1: the door for those watching on Jaguars dot com, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: do you have your own bust in your living room?
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  Speaker 1: Behind you? Is that what that is? It's my office,
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  Speaker 1: but yes, it's a replica bus that the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame sent me about a week ago. How heavy is it?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't like heavy like the real bus? Or is it's
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  Speaker 1: just like a plastic replica? It's not plastic um. It's
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  Speaker 1: a great question, Pete. I have not because I was
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  Speaker 1: out of town when it showed up, so my wife
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  Speaker 1: put it there, and I have not touched it yet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't picked it up. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, JP, you should have somebody make bus
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  Speaker 1: for us to and stick it behind. Good question. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean because let me tell you, Tony loves looking
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  Speaker 1: at himself. I mean, when we think about it, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all I have this. My wife once got me a
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  Speaker 1: bobblehead of me, and it doesn't look like look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I got the hairlines way too tall. It's way too tall, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and that was, by the way, this was
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  Speaker 1: a while ago. But the hairlines way back here now,
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  Speaker 1: so that's not any more. And that bubblehead has a
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  Speaker 1: has a neck and you don't have a neck, so
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  Speaker 1: that's not very I know what you're talking about. No,
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  Speaker 1: JP's bust would have glasses on it. We have to
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  Speaker 1: put the glasses on the bus. It wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 1: to see anything. Yeah, makes sense. Hey, you know, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you have your own bust in your own room, though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that is at deal. Don't act like Angie
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  Speaker 1: put it there. Come on now, we know, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: come on, don't put it on her. You did it? Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Front and center unbelievable. All right, So a loss in
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  Speaker 1: the divisional playoff game twenty they're about what to three
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  Speaker 1: big plays away from winning that game, felt like, well,
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  Speaker 1: well they were. They were an ankle injury away, were
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  Speaker 1: probably getting beat by twenty. I disagree with that, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I completely disagree with you on that. Um I thought
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  Speaker 1: they were. Let me tell you the biggest sequence of
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  Speaker 1: plays to me in the game, um and is their
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  Speaker 1: first in town. On the going in. It's a ten
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  Speaker 1: seven game, and we have a tripping call which was questionable.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he really tripped him. Frank Clark tripped
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  Speaker 1: over him when Walk a little slipped, and then we
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  Speaker 1: had a sack after that. So it's third and nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor rolls to the left Byes time, hits Hasty in
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  Speaker 1: the chest, Hasty drops it. It would have been a
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  Speaker 1: fourth down, fourth and ten on the thirty um And
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  Speaker 1: it would been a forty eight yard field goal and
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  Speaker 1: a chance to tie it up, make it ten ten.
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  Speaker 1: They don't complete, so they have to punt now. They
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  Speaker 1: put them down. They pin him down to the two
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  Speaker 1: yard line, Chad Head he's in and they give up
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  Speaker 1: a ninety eight yard touchdown. Drive that made it seventeen seven.
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  Speaker 1: And in that drive, Foyer a Louicon had his hands
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  Speaker 1: on a ball that was floating in the air. Was
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  Speaker 1: not It wouldn't have been like a great pick. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's one he would make nine out of ten times,
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  Speaker 1: and he drops it if he if he makes that
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  Speaker 1: pick their first and ten on the third, he going
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  Speaker 1: in and and they have a chance to make it,
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  Speaker 1: and they have the lead, and I think the entire
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  Speaker 1: game is different. If that little sequence there worked out
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  Speaker 1: into the favor of the Jaguars and did not. They
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  Speaker 1: go down to two scores and they're playing catch up
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  Speaker 1: from that point on. By the way, some people said,
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  Speaker 1: if Campbell picks that ball off, he walks in for
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown. That's not true. I watched the tape today.
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  Speaker 1: He would have got tackled, but he still he would
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  Speaker 1: have had a chance to make a play on the
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  Speaker 1: ball as well. I mean he was going if if
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  Speaker 1: a Lukan doesn't drop it, he's gonna pick it off.
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  Speaker 1: He sees it better, and he would have picked it off. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, And then you let him go ninety eight yards.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the players on that drive were just inexcusable.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you let the first play, you
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  Speaker 1: let Kelsey get five, right, you don't even touch him,
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  Speaker 1: and sex thing you know, you're it was a seven
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  Speaker 1: year out from underneath. The being in the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he just can't allow that to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: and the third down play, where I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what those two corners were doing because it didn't
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  Speaker 1: look they look like they won. Was snake and he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna switch it and the other one didn't, And next
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  Speaker 1: thing you know, he's it's the easiest throwing the world.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the Chiefs actually ran that play
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  Speaker 1: with Henny in the postseason last year, the year when
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  Speaker 1: he came in, remember and he had to throw the
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  Speaker 1: little quick throw like that against the Browns to win
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  Speaker 1: that game. And so there are plays you could pick out.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, that little sequence might have changed the
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  Speaker 1: momentum of the game. But come on, then, let the
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  Speaker 1: foot injury changed the momentum of the game. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that. I'm not saying the foot injury wasn't big Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. But I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's seven, you know, they go score. We scored seven
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  Speaker 1: seven you know, they kick a field but the home
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt. Great, it's part of the game. My point
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  Speaker 1: is there was multiple opportunities, and I just picked out
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  Speaker 1: that one. You could go to the christ and Kirk drop.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's another seven probably off the board. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you can go to the agnew fumble when he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: go make it a they're gonna make it a seven
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  Speaker 1: three point game with five minutes left in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the whole thing could have flipped there
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  Speaker 1: because the Chiefs weren't really moving the ball all that effectively.
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  Speaker 1: So what was the what was the situation after the
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  Speaker 1: offensive pass in affairs? Wasn't it third and seventeen or
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  Speaker 1: third and twenty and they were at a field goal
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  Speaker 1: range and they let him get back in the field
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  Speaker 1: goal range with a little dump off to Kelsey And
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  Speaker 1: I sent that that video to you guys today. Devin
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd is picking up his mouth piece. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: I watched the whole sequence, he's he's first off, he's
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  Speaker 1: getting lined up, his mouth piece falls out of his mouth,
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  Speaker 1: he bends over to pick it up, and why he's
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  Speaker 1: picking it up. The play starts and he's the guy
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  Speaker 1: that probably would have had to make a plan on Kelsey. Kelsey,
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  Speaker 1: what do you get on that play? Twelve yards? He
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  Speaker 1: got ten? Yes, and then now you're in field goal
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  Speaker 1: rage Banks on the field goal. That was a big
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  Speaker 1: play right there. Yea. In my big takeaway Pete of
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  Speaker 1: that game is the Jaguars by weren't even close to
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  Speaker 1: playing a complete good game, and they missed like basic opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: They lost the turnover bargain again or the turnover battle again.
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  Speaker 1: And after I got over the disappointment, I stepped back
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  Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we're even closer than I
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  Speaker 1: thought we were. I mean, that team with Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: and quarterback and Doug Peterson at head coach, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no reason they should not have won at all.
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  Speaker 1: They were not outclassed. Like the big fear going into
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  Speaker 1: that game is you'd walk away and you're like Jacksonville's
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  Speaker 1: outclass by the Chiefs. You know, it's the Chiefs, it's
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  Speaker 1: the Bills, the Bengals, and then it's everybody else, and
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars are really part of that everyone else. My
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  Speaker 1: takeaway from that is go make plays like plays that
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  Speaker 1: you should make, like Kirk catches that ball nine out
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  Speaker 1: of ten times Lou Khan catches an easy interception. Nine
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  Speaker 1: out of ten times Agnew fumbles it not being touched.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, what it's debatable the fumble was debatable
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that the fact I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a fumble when watching it, watching it in slow motion,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he made a football move. However, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the NFL did not stop the game and go
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  Speaker 1: have Sean Hawkerley go under the hood and look at
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  Speaker 1: that is a travesty that is awful. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: if he spins to the left, he probably scores. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're right, that's an enormous play right there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what is that eight minute? How much time
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  Speaker 1: is left in that right there? Six minutes? Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: makes it a a three point game. If they go
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  Speaker 1: in there and and all of a sudden Kansas City sweating. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're back when they were in the Chargers game. That's
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  Speaker 1: about where they were down in that game. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: he spins out to the lefty scores. But I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: think he was trying to make a play. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the food play dropped the ball. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: that he's not done that all year. It's free play.
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  Speaker 1: And now wasn't that when Christian Kirk was out of
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  Speaker 1: the game at that moment With that a Kirk play,
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  Speaker 1: he had come back. He had come back in. I
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  Speaker 1: think though I don't know if he's on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Is he on the field for that play he come
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  Speaker 1: back in. I think he's out. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: Acne is informing that play, if I'm not mistaken by
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  Speaker 1: the way. That's another missed opportunity on the on the
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  Speaker 1: play that he threw to Kirk where Kirk got hurt,
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  Speaker 1: he had to go routes that were open. Did you
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  Speaker 1: see those, Tony, No, I did not. Yeah, if he
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  Speaker 1: if he has one on one on the outside, both
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  Speaker 1: of both sides, and he could have hit one of those.
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  Speaker 1: He had a boat. Um. But you know, look that
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  Speaker 1: was that's a pretty good throw in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: LD that throw he just saw there the interception by Watson,
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  Speaker 1: he was getting blasted in the mouth. He needed to
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  Speaker 1: put that ball out a little further. And that's a
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  Speaker 1: big play, yep. I mean, I mean little misses here
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  Speaker 1: and there. There was the Kirk stumbling. When Kirk stumbled
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  Speaker 1: on third down, they couldn't get it. That's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a completion for a first down. Um, you know there's
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  Speaker 1: a little the one the throw, the worst throw he
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  Speaker 1: made was the one that Kirk on that little third
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  Speaker 1: down play on the cross or whatever it was, he
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  Speaker 1: skipped it to him. That was a terrible throw. Remember
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But I don't think, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to break down every single play and mistake, good, bad,
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  Speaker 1: or in different But the takeaway pete for me and
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  Speaker 1: I loved. I mean, as you sit in your seat,
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  Speaker 1: national media guy, they were not outclassed. Like nobody watched
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  Speaker 1: that game and said the Jaguars were outclassed by the Jukes. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: not one bit. It was it was and you could
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  Speaker 1: have the Giants were outclassed when they played the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: did I Wars were not outclass in any way, shape
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  Speaker 1: or form. They played with them and they proved, they
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  Speaker 1: proved that they can go be a factor in the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Next year they will be. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: they will be. They will want to lock something right now,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna win the division and they're gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: deep playoff team next year. Lock that. Take that to
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  Speaker 1: the back. I'm gonna get a more lock. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: up you on your locks. They're gonna win the division.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna have the number one seed. Wow, I won't
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  Speaker 1: I might not argue that one because the schedule the
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  Speaker 1: division is not very good. The schedule, you know, will
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  Speaker 1: be favorable in the division. Yeah, okay, we'll give you
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  Speaker 1: that one number one seed at home. Just as disappointed
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  Speaker 1: as I was watching the entire playoff weekend, my takeaway
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  Speaker 1: when I woke up this morning is like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: we're right there, Like, you gotta make some You gotta
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  Speaker 1: gotta make some moves in the off season. Every team does,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not like huge moves you're gonna get. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see what you get out
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  Speaker 1: of Calvin Ridley. If he's anything close to what he
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  Speaker 1: was before he went out for the two to two years,
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  Speaker 1: that's a huge plus. Um, you're gonna have a year
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  Speaker 1: two in the same system with Doug Peterson. Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be way better. I mean way better. He
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  Speaker 1: was good this year, he's gonna be great next year.
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  Speaker 1: I just think this team is gonna be poised. And
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  Speaker 1: because I watched all the playoff games and I'm telling you, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at I mean you said it. The
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  Speaker 1: Giants were completely outclass didn't belong there. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: Bills were outclassed by the Bengals. They were dominated. If
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  Speaker 1: you really look at that game, it was never it
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  Speaker 1: was never in question. That's one of those teams that
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  Speaker 1: was put together by their quarterback playing out of his
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  Speaker 1: mind at times. That's all that is, right. I mean,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: he he compensated for their You know, we talked about
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville's lack of a big play receivers at times.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Even though those guys are good receivers, they still need
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: another one. I think they need a speed receiver and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: hopefully Ridley might be that guy. But you know you
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Digs and and Davis and Gang didn't get open on Sunday,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and he pressed in the offensive line. He's Jackson's offensive
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: line is better than Buffaloes. Jackson's running game, it's better
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: than Buffaloes. Jaxonville's receivers they don't have Digs, but as
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a group they're probably better. And then they there. You know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you look at the quarterback. Alan's better now, but here
• 17:17
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• 17:22
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• 17:25
  Speaker 1: love the play general manager. We'll have a plan. We're
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna take that. We we fix the defense
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: sort of when we moved Darius Williams outside, they listen
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to us. So let's have a plan. We're gonna have
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a plan fix this team. I like that. We'll do that.
• 17:37
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• 17:43
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  Speaker 1: Going to this all season. Uh ready to do this
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  Speaker 1: Facebook and YouTube. What is the most glaring um issue
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: for the defense and what is the thing they did
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the best this season? Pete, what do you think pass rush? Easy? Easy, easy, easy,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and you can go over and over again pass rush,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: pass rush, pass rush. I mean it's just they don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: they don't influence the quarterback. It's they've got to be
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: better at that. Whatever way you get better at it,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you have to be better at it. And and you
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: know Josh Allen, Josh Allen has made some plays down
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to stretch, but he's still not the dominant edge rush
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you'd like in that spot. He's a good player. Trayvon
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Walker needs to learn some lose and I think that's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be the focus of him in the off season. Uh.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You know, he was asked today, I saw where where
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go down play with your hand on the ground,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and he said, no, no, I'm an addresser. He's gonna,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you know, do everything you can to stay out there. So, uh,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: they have to whatever you do, whatever you do, you
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: have to improve the pass rush. I mean, you look
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: at the Eagles. The Eagles had seventy sacks this year, seventy.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Look at the forty niners they get after the quarterback.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: You look at the Chiefs even they had fifty five
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: this year. You gotta be able to influence the quarterback
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: more than they do. And I think that's the number
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: one priority the defense the one outlier of the Bengals.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: They had less sacks than the Jaguars. Um. Yeah, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Henderson was down for a while this year too though,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, I agree with like the biggest disappointed
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: disappointment for me watching the game. I mean, obviously losing,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but they actually did a halfway decent job early in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that game, like making Mahomes move and get off his spot.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Now he completed every pass because he's that talented. He's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a great player, so I mean, it is what it is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But then he gets hurt and they got zero pressure.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: They never impacted him again, like blood Pete, it's blood
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in the water. Now you're like, we're gonna go just
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: destroy this guy because he can't do what makes him great.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And I was shocked. We got zero pressure after we
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: hurt my Homes and they didn't blitz as much, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: after he got hurt. They blitzed more when he was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: when he was not hurt than they did when he
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: got hurt. That makes no sense to me. And and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: they all got blocked single bott Yeah, like the they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: made Jerrick McKinnon look like an offensive lineman when he
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: was in there and made times he picked up the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: blitz they ran right into him. That that's like a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that's something they all got to work on, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: even the blitzers. You don't have to run right into
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the chest of the guy re single time. And it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: not you know, we said that all year about Trayvon Walker,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and he does it. He's continued to do it, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and those were not good up those tackles are okay.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: While he's not very good at right tackle. I think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he's averages average can be and I think you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the left tackles, averages average can be two. And you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: at times you even when they rush five that you're
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: right Tony. There's times when he's just standing there, there's
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: nobody near him. That's when you just gotta tee off
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback when he's hurt like that. I mean legally,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying do anything illegal, but go after him.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And they just did not, and they didn't win one
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: on one enough and that was disappointing. And I agree
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: with Pete, like the biggest issue on this team, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I love the mindset and people different, uh, And I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: think Pete agrees with me on this, Like the most
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: important position on defense in today's NFL is somebody on
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: your front floor that could impact the quarterback now hopefully
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have more than one. But even look at the Chiefs.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Frank Clark's okay, he's not great. I mean, he shows
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: up in the playoffs, is what Frank Clark does. Yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but but even Pete he got the tripping call because
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Walker Little slipped. Literally Walker Little shut down, right, I agree,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he's he slips and then he gets a sack when
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Trevor is trying to scramble up in the pocket. I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, Frank Clark didn't do anything, but you
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: know what, nothing, But you know what, because I thought
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the offense tackles played well again strength that we'll talk
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: about what we do, what you do with those with
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that position moving forward. But I think, what but a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: guy like Chris Jones, even though he still does not
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: have a sack in the postseason, which is remarkable to me,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: but he forces you to game plan for him, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: he gives everyone else one on one box because of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Chris Jones. And it's like he's still got pressure. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: mean there were you know, he's still had like four
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: or five pressures. He's still one. At times, it wasn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a dominate game by his standards, but by the rest
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of the league standards, it was still a heck of
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a game. And with the Jack, the Jaguars don't have
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that guy, So either tray Von has to develop into
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that Josh has to figure out how to bottle the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: four or five weeks Stretchy had at the end of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the regular season, and just that's all seventeen weeks. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you you have to, like, it's the most important position
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: on a on the defense, like you can if you can,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: like look at the Eagles now they have Darius Slay
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is a good corner, but you can have average corner
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is a good corner. They have good corners. Yeah, but Pete,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: my point is, you can be you can be okay
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: at the quarter position if you rush the passer. Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and look who's rushing the passer for them, Reddick who
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was signed as a fifteen million dollar a year free agent,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: which is a bargain for him, Hardgrave who is a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: free agent by the way, Um Sweat who's developed into
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a really good player. And then the other one with
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: double digits was I forget Um Graham, I think had
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: double digits. So they had four guys with double digits,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but they come in waves. You look at the forty
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Niners bosses that you know, you talk about that guy
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that's Bosa, but they also have guys and you know
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Armstead guys who can come in waves. Jackson needs the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: one guy, then everybody else will be You're right, then
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: everybody else will kind of feed off that and become
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: those you know, guys that get the five, six, seven,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: eight sacks and you know the other thing that stood up.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And we'll get to what the defense too good this year?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: JP in a second? You know what else jumped out
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of me watching the game and then watching I didn't
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: watch the whole game on tape. I watched part of it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Is I thought this defense played very physical down the stretch.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they were physical against the Chiefs and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: then tackle well at all. I didn't think they were
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: physical like I like, it wasn't Roy's best game wasn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was not Like none of those guys were physical. Like
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: even Trayvon though he's not a great pass rusher right now,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: he's a physical presence. He blows things up. Josh Allen
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: has been really physical down the stretch, and I don't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: think they played there as physical as they had down
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the stretch. It jumped That's what jumped out to me
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: watching it. Um And give credit that interior three for
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the chief is really good, like really good. Humphries not
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: one of the best centers, if not the best center
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in lead. What Kelsey is what he's right there with him,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Tray Smith is a physical right guard man and really
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: physical right guard and two and he's a high price
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: free agent left guard. They're good. Yeah, they're very good. So,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a tough man for guys, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I've been so impressed with how physical that group's been
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: down the stretch, and I just don't they didn't have
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that same and they didn't ConTroll the game like they
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: have in the past, and there were mis tackles all
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: over the place. Well that there's a lot of issues
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: there and and and they're gonna have to figure out
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: what to do with Devin Lloyd. Um. He's a he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: really struggles in his own coverage of like matching up,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: understanding you know, space and where he's supposed to be,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and he does not He's not instinctful at this point
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: as an off the ball linebacker, run or pass. Um. Yes,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: it does like when you like when he's like if
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you watch him, like I watched The Man, The Man
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of times in Travis Kelsey was he did
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job at times, like because he's so
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: athletic and it's like, just go cover that guy, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he did a pretty good job, you know. He I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: don't think he's a great blitzer yet because I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: he runs into the guy a little too much. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: when he comes off the edge he has he shows
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: his speed and his athletic ability, and he has length,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so he has all the tools. The question is can
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you get him comfortable is that off the ball linebacker
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and allow him to play at the speed that is
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that his physical gifts that he has. Can you unleash
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that somehow? Is it a year where he just gets
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: more comfortable? And you know a lot of rookies struggle
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: year one, you know, especially when you're transitioning to a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: different position. You didn't really play that style in college,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And so I'm not writing Devin Lloyd off by any means.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think, And he got better and better he did,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: and all reports he's it's important to him. He's a good,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: good dude. Like he I mean, I think he wants
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to be good, but they're gonna have to figure that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: in the off season. And I think the one thing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that I do appreciate that this defense. They play hard
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and they fly around you know, um and you know
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: they didn't get the turnovers in the playoffs that they
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: did down the stretch. That really helps them because they
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: don't have that stopper on defense, so they need turnovers
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to be effective. But I would say vast majority of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: season I appreciate how hard they played and how they
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: flew around and and and and tried. They played the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: game the right way. And to give credit, give that
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: your right, though I agree with you one didn't play
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: its physical. But don't worry about the linebackers though. They'll
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: just draft one in the first and second round this
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: year to kind of supplement what they have already. Yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I saw your I saw your tweet Pete earlier about that. Well,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, am I wrong about that? Though? I mean, seriously,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: am I not look at the forty niners. It's a
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: fifth and what was a fifth in the seventh or
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: what it is? And look the Bengals Pratt to third,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Logan Wilson's the third. You look at my Mulano's and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you know, undrafted. I mean, there's gonna you find these
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: t J. Edwards undrafted. I mean my philosophy p is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm listening. Neither of us are doing this for
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a living as far as the GM, but my philosophy
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: would be and is there are certain positions that you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: don't draft from the first in the top of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: draft unless they are like difference makers. Like it's just
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like jump off the screen, blow up, like like there
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Junior say out or whoever le Ray Lewis or Lacker
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: because off the ball linebackers. To your point, I mean,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: if you look at the ones who are good in
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the league right now, they're mid round draft picks. I mean,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: what was Bobby Wagner second rounder, second third, Various Leonard
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Darius Leonard when he plays second. Um, you know those
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: two guys in San Francisco. You you know, you look
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: at the Milano UM. T J. Edwards is phenomenal and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: he wasn't even drafted in Philadelphia. UM. You know there
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: are exceptions like Rocan Smith was a first round pick.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: He's on his second team. He plays well, but but
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it's not the value you You're right, you have to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be above and beyond the value to be a guy
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you would pick in that spot. Yeah, I mean, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: there's not they're not and so and I'm not. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: think Devil Lloyd can be a good player. And I'll
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: say this, be careful always as a fan or what
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you and I do. Beeat of making assumptions after one year,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: because you could argue, and people talked about it, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: people talk about the media and on shows and everything else.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Everyone was killing Trip Bulky for picking Walker Little in
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the in the mid top and second round, and thank
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: goodness he did because Walker Little proved down the stretch
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that he's a starting caliber and has an opportunity to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: only get better and did a damn good job down
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the stretch. And so you've gotta be careful. Some guys
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: take longer to develop. Some guys, you know, you've got
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to give him time to get in there and figure
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it out and develop and and so don't make snap
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: judgments based on just one year. I think Devin Lloyd,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: by the way, real quick, JP, I think devn Lloyd's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good player. But again I go back
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to the value of the position. For me, that's me. Uh.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And they spent money on one and drafted two. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: just don't think you need that and that value of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that position. All right, we'll come back and get into
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the offensive line discussion, including Walker Little and his future
• 32:03
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• 32:08
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• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Divisional playoff game to the Kansas City Chiefs twenty seven
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: twenty the final score. We're recapping that, and as Pete says,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: trying to fix it, let's let's move to the offensive line.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And um, you know, Tony, you brought up Walker a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: little a moment ago, but um, you know, this is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: an offseason of some question marks up front. Doug Peterson
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was happy with the way the group as a whole
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: played this year, he said that today. But you got
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson coming off in knee injury. Um, you got
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Random Sheriff about to go unto the nine for some
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: offseason stuff. He played every game in a season for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the first time since Jowan Taylor's free agent coming up,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Ben Barge's coming off injury. And of course Tyler Shatley
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: started at left guard most of the season, and Luke
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Fortner is going into year two in three. He was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a rookie this year. So overall, what do you make
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: of it? And then what's the number one priority in
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the off season? Tony on on the old line, Well,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the hard thing, the hard part is best offensive. The
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: guy this year who played the best, the most consistent
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: is the guy who's a free agent, and that's Juan Taylor. Now,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: he was very good his rookie year, not so good
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: years two and three, very inconsistent, ups and downs, so
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and so forth. Did not play. In fact, they were
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: trying to replace him with Walker Little. They gave Walker
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Little every chance to beat him out at right tackle.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: He won the job and he had his best year.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And so the question this franchise has, and this is
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: what Doug and Trent are gonna have to figure out
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: as you moved the kind of the pieces around the chessboard.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta cap that you're up against right now,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it's gonna go up. You let go some high price
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: guys that will free up cap room. But how much
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: money are you willing to invest in an offensive line
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: where you have Sheriff is one of the highest paid guards,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: if not the highest. Um he was important to this group,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: brought great leadership stability and you know, real pro did
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: not have his best year on the field in my opinion,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: especially in the back half. Now, some of that was
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: because of injuries, and I get it's part of the game,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate his warrior like mentality to fight through
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: it and be out there every snap. Kudos to him, um,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: but you you spent him a bunch of You have
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money invested in him, and you have
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money invest in your left tackle, who,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, on the last probably three games of
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the season, you could argue Walker Little played every bit
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: at the same level as as Cam Robinson. So now
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you have you have some big decisions to make, and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: it's all gonna be about cap management of what you do,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: what you want Taylor, because he's gonna be a coveted
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: player at that position. Based on offensive lines I've seen
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: this year in the NFL, I say, you keep them,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you find a way to make it work, and then
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you figure it out from there. I mean, and again,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we've referenced this a couple of different times. I brought
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it up when we talked about the Eagles one time.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: The Eagles right now, you would say they're the best
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: offensive line of football. When you're Tony Okay lane Lane.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Johnson's cap figures twenty four million dollars in this coming season,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey's cap figures eleven million dollars, and Georgia Jordan
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Milattes is seven million, and the right guard Samalo is
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: seven million. So now they got there's fourteen fifteen thirty nine.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: That's fifty millions dollars in cap room to the four
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: four of those guys on the offensive line. The one
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: guy Dickerson is on his rookie deal. So you can
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: make it work. You can make it work, and you
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: know the cap, you can finagle the cap anywhere you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: want to. You can take some of the guys, you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: big chunk money and give him bonus money and finagle
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the numbers anyway you want. I will resign If I'm
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: not GM. I'm resigned to Juwan Taylor. So then I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: go to camp. If Cam Robinson and Walker Little fight
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it out, maybe you make Cam Robinson the guard. Maybe
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you may. You know, if you don't like Bart, if
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you don't like if you want to get bigger than
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Shatley or more, you know, bigger line than maybe you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: play Robinson the guard. You figure it out. That's up
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. But i'm'm the general manager of
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that team Joan Taylor, and going anywhere, he's gonna be
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: my right tackle. It's hard to me to argue that beat.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was your highest performing player on the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: offensive line, and and I mean you're right, and I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: think Walker Little. The hard part with what you said
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: is do you go into training camp as an open
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: competition and left tackle between Walker Little and Cam Robinson
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and then you know, the loser goes to left guard.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's not the really the way you
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: want camp to go. You want your five guys out
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: there working together. So I question you. Maybe you make
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson the left guard. Then well that's gonna be
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a long talk with Cam and his agent, because you know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: most guys don't want to go from the left tackle
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the guard. I'll tell you that much. Who do you
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: think that I'm gonna ask you, you're the expert on
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the opinion, who is better suited to be the left tackle? Um?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I think Walker middle the last three games,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: maybe even more consistent than Cam. I mean, he played
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: really well against high competition. So to say we're gonna
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: say for the second argument, Walker little is the left
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: tackle and Cam Robinson has to find a spot. We've
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: seen guys, even high expensive, high price guys have moved
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: inside a garden their careers at times, Tony. They've done
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it well, not any question. I mean the other option
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you have, Bete, if you think Cam or Walker could
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: be right and play, go play right tackle at a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: high level close to what at the level of Juan did.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Do you let Juwan walk free have that cap space,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: move Cam or Walker the right tackle? I mean we
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: just I mean Dallas did it this year one Tyren Smith,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: who's an All Pro left tackle by the way, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: they moved in the right tackle and to Tyrn's credit,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: he said this is best for the team, I'll go
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: do it, and he did it, and and they played
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: pretty well at offensive line. So I mean that's the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: other option because you have other needs on this team,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and if you think you have two starting caliber guys
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: um that are already signed for next year, I couldn't
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: see a scenario where you let Juwan walk and you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: go with Walker little and cam Uh at your two tackles.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think you keep your best players,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you keep guys performing at high level. Jowan did that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see them find a way to keep them.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: But it's it's not the worst option if you have
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to go with Cam and Walk a little at those
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: two tackles. No, but again, though, you're if you do that,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you're taking one of those two and putting him in
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a position where we've we saw or Walker a little
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: struggle when he was at right tackle who won the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: same player and he has not been a right tackle,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So you're taking a position of strength and moving and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: moving them out and moving weaken yet at that spot too.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think you find a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: way to keep him and then you figure it out.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You can never have too many good football players on
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. Look around, it's the train. If the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: playoffs don't teach you that, I mean the playoffs every year,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: we it's in Tony, you preached this for years being
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. The playoffs are all about your offensive
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: line play. You have a quarterback and an offensive line
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: in a deep it's a line. You're gonna win games,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of them. Period. They have the quarterback. They
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: still need work on the defensive line, but this offensive
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: line is growing into something. Why why take it and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: possibly make you weaker at spots where you don't have
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to be weak. It makes no sense to me. I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: would find a way to keep you on, Tellor, no
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: matter what. Alright, guys, I all right, let's come back
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in a moment. Good conversation there. We'll come back and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: take a look at the divisional playoff results, preview the
• 40:29
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• 41:15
  Speaker 1: frustrating when you think about the game and um, yeah
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: we're there. Um and and even with that, people want
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to talk about the future. And it's frustrating because we
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: still had everything we needed and every opportunity to win
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: that game, so you know, but we didn't. You know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: we didn't get it done. And that's what that's what
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: It kind of eats at you a little bit. But
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: we'll let that fuel us for next year. And um,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you you kind of you remember that feeling and you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: use it moving forward. But yeah, I mean, we're we're there,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and just to think about, like I said, the experience
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and all the work that we'll have this offseason moving forward,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and um, we're gonna get better and better. And those
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: are the teams you gotta beat, you know, if you
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: want to get to where we want to go, you're
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go through all those teams, and you
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: look at Cincinnati and Kansas City and Buffalo, and there's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be other great teams next year too, And um,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: those of the teams you gotta beat. That's the quarterback
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence today, Welcome back. It's the final Monday Jaguars
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour of the season. J P. Shadrick, Pete, Briscoe,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli coming up in the second hour, your social
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: media questions while he's talking about all the teams. Of course,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that we're in the final four of the a f
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: C and that brings us to the divisional weekend results.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Of course, the Chiefs over the Jaguars twenty As mentioned earlier,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the Eagles blasted the Giants thirty eight to seven. That
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was um, that one was over in a hurry. The
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Bengals over the Bills twenty seven ten. Joe Burrow was
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: fourteen nothing right out of the gate. Could have been
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a whole lot worse than that. And the Niners beat
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys deck through a couple of interceptions in last
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: night's game. So, um, which which of those stands out
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the most to U? Pete? Who has the best chance
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to win the A f c who's gonna win? You know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: if Mahomes is gimpy like that, I think the Bengals do.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I mean they can. The one thing that they'll do
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: is they'll go after him. I mean they get they
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: went after Josh Allen on Sunday. Loui and Ramos has
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: some great, great defenses, and I think that's gonna be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a problem. I think the Bengals are gonna win that game.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I actually, Joe Burrow is Joe Montana. That's who he is.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the way he plays and puts the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: ball accurately in the spots and everything. I think the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna win that game. I think they'll beat
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: him for the fourth straight time. I think the bank
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I think the Bengals win even if Patrick Mahomes, which
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: is not gonna be I think the way they're playing
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and the way they've been playing down the stretch and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, I mean I think they're they are
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: unfazed of playing in any atmosphere, any stadium, like going
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: on the roads not gonna bother them. In fact, they've are.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: They won their last year um in that setting in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the FC title games. So they're gonna be confident going in.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I think the Bengals win that game. I think they
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and I think it'll be there'll be a tough matchup
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Wouldn't be rise with me at
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the Bengals win the whole damn thing, NFC. How about
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the other side of it. Who's winning that? I think
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are winning it. Look the one thing when
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you when you play the Niners, and we saw it
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, when you're limited offensively, they keep you
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and they blast you. They hit you, they attack you.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: They're fast, athletic, they dictate tempo. But when you can
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: do so many things the way the Eagles do and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: scheme things up and spread them out and get those
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: guys running sideline the sideline and have the threat of
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Hurts running the football, I think it neutralizes a little bit.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And they have big play guys down the field. I mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you saw A J. Brown was pouting the other day
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: because he didn't get the football even know they were winning.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's the kind of players they have
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: on the outside. Davante Smiths had a great year. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's a tough matchup for the Niners and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: what we don't know. Is brock Purty on the road
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the postseason against the team at seventy sacks. We have
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: no idea what he can do in that scenario none,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And he showed started the show a few cracks on Sunday.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So I'll take the Eagles to win that one. Yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards Uh agree with Pete on
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: that one too. I think the Eagles are where. They're
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a good team, well rounded both sides of the ball.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, I'll be watching very closely
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: both lines of scrimmage. I cannot wait for the Lane
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Johnson nick Bosa matchup to the best in the business,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: and then Tony against Trent Williams. Watching Trent go against
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: those guys, it's gonna be I know most people don't
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: care about that kind of stuff, but I'll have a
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: hard time polle on the ball because I'll be watching
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: those matchups up front. It's gonna be fascinating, good offensive
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: line play. Some good games coming up next coming Sunday,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: three o'clock Eastern kickoff for the NFC Championship game and
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: then the a f C game starts at six thirty
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Eastern time Cincinnati in Kansas City, San Francisco in Philadelphia. Um,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: we've had a rare double lock tonight back in the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: opening segment for those who just joined us, both of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Pete antonioev locked a division title and a number one
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: seed next year of the Jets. I mean, when you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: look at the schedule, they played the NFC South right yea,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So so you got the Falcons, Panthers, Saints, and Bucks.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Those teams are all in looking for answers right now.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And then you have your own division, they're all looking
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: for answers right now. That means you have the Niners, Chiefs, Bills,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and Ravens and Bengals. Those are your games. You're gonna
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: have tough games against. Those are the ones you're gonna
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: have to you know at Pittsburgh won't be easy either,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: but it's his favorable schedule next year, so you could
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: get the one seed. Yeah. I mean, I like with this.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I love the combination of Doug and and Trevor. Obviously,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I think they got a good course. Group of guys
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: have set the culture the right way, had a couple
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: of pieces. I think some of the young guys that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: we've talked about in the trade by Walkers devn Lloyd's
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: those guys are only to get better. Um, they had
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: big decisions to make Another guy we even talked about
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: yet that I think is they must resign is Evan Ingram.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think you've got to find a way to pay
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: for him and get him back because of what he
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: can do from the tight end position. He's the perfect
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: tight end for what Doug Peterson wants to do. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: he's another guy that had a great year and you
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: need to find a way to sign him. All right,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get to that thought coming up.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: One hour down, one hour ago. This is the final
• 47:27
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• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's the same thing I've been telling the players
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: this morning, and the ones I've seen is, you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: especially the guys that are going to be back, I mean,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: there's familiarity. You know, when the off season program starts,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: they exactly what to expect. They know what to expect
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: during O t A S. They know to expect during
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: training camp. They know the offense, the defense. They no
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: special teams, so it's and in for Trevor. It's it's everything.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: There's continuity, there's consistency. He knows the guys he's gonna
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be throwing the ball too, he knows the coaching staff
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be coaching him. And um, that's that's Uh,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that that's a big that's big for us. And from
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: year one to year two and and um those are
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the you know the jumps that teams make is usually
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: year one, year two, possibly into year three. Um, but
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for our quarterback, you know who had a great year
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this year, he'll only get better just having that consistency
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: around him, I said coach Chuck Peterson earlier today. Welcome back.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It's our number two of Jaguar is happy our the
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: final Monday Show of the two season. The Jaguars lost
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: an an f C Divisional playoff game to the Chiefs
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: twenty on Saturday at Aarowhead and its opportunities, a dropped interception,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a dropped deep past the Christian Kirk Jamal Agnew fumbled
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: inside the five yard line. Well, Jack's team got further
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: this season than many predicted. It was an incredible second
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a half run to win the division, and then of
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: course the rally to win the wild card playoff game,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the final game of the season comes down to the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: division title. Everything at the end was fantastic for this team.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: But now it's onto the off season and how to
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: build this team to compete with the Chiefs, Bengals and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Bills and learning how to compete in a playoff atmosphere. Well,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: we mentioned it last hour. Evan Ingram is at the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: end of a one year contract for the Jaguars. He's
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: due to be an unrestricted free agent at the start
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of the league year in March, but he was in
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the locker room today and he wants to be a Jaguar.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Conversations will get there. Uh you know, it's I think
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: everything will take care of himself in that aspect. But um,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like I said before, it's definitely a place where I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: want to be. I don't know what I want to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: continue career and uh, you know, be a partner being
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: built here for sure. The full press conference or media
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: availability rather with him available on Jaguars dot Com. And yes,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: career highs and catches and yardage in a one year,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: proven deal for Ingram, he certainly has proven it. It's
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• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Gotta I mean, I think yeah, I mean, I mean
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: he's a big I mean, you look down the stretch
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: on the winning streak, he was maybe the number one
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: weapon in the passing game, and the stats proved out
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: in a couple of games. But just you know, and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I think the more comfortable Trevor gets with the offense
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and that and then Doug's canna be able to do
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: more and more because just Trevor's you know, learning curve
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and um just how you know, his understanding of what
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do. Trevor is gonna get better, which
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: is gonna make everyone around him even better. Um. I mean,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I think Trevor has only scratched the surface of how
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: good he can be. And he's pretty damn good right now,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: which tells you what I think, at least of where
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: his ceiling is, which is the best quarterback in the NFL.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: That's his ceiling. And when you have that guy, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you have weapons and a guy like Evan Ingram, who's
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: a matchup issue because of his speed and and his
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you know run after the catch and he and I
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: thought it's blocking improved this year. Uh, he's he's a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: guy you want on this team. He's a guy that
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: you have to figure out how you resign him for
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: a long term deal because he'll he'll grow and he'll
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: become a better player because of the improvement in the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: growth of Lawrence. So where do you go with that number?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Because he made nine million this year average one year deal,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: he got nine million. But if you go to the
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: contracts and the tight end position, let's just say Dawson
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Knox makes thirteen million a year. Yeah, I was on
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the day somewhere between twelve and thirteen a year is
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: what you're going to pay him. Yeah, because because John H.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Smith made twelve five and that was a bad contract
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and Patriots said two bad ones. Remember everybody one a
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: hunter Henry and John W. New Smith and Jacksonville that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: neither one of them worked out. They're at twelve twelve
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: five each. You get up to Mark Andrews at fourteen.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: He isn't Mark Andrews. I mean he's he's good, but
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: he's not Mark Andrews. And Joeku thirteen six, So you're
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: talking about twelve thirteen, thirteen and a half million a
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: year for him. Call call the three year deal thirty
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: nine million million with half of the guaranteed or something
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I would. I would do it again.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I you have a quarterback who's special, why take away
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: from what he has there? Keep him, keep Taylor and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: you figure out that maybe use all your draft picks
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball in one speed
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: receiver or something because in a big back in a
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: later round, maybe that's how you do it. But I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: don't think I weakened the offense. I think the offense
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: is his strength. You you play to it, and then
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: if you get Ridley and he's what he used to be,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: then you even have that much more to use on
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that offense. So I'm not weaken in the offense. I'm
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: bringing Taylor d Ingram back, both of them. Yeah. The
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: other thing you have to think about tight Endpete is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Man hurts as a free agent, and he did a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: really good job in the run game, uh this year.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: And you know the question is can um oh gosh,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: what's the the rookie aut of house, not the rookie,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: but the second year play at out of Ohio State.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I can't think of his name right now. JP. If
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Luke Farrell can become that blocking tight end, then you
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: can let Man Hurts go and you just plug him
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: as that kind of road grading guy that's gonna block
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: for you. Um. And you gotta have an ingram to
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: your point, Pete, I think this is a team that
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: you need to like in this league. Score points, Invest
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: in the offense when you have the quarterback, invest offensive line,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: you know all. You know you do need another back,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I think a big back. I agree with you there
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and then everything else. Just go find that one pass,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Go find a couple of pass rushers, and go play football. Um,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of football games in this
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: league doing that. Yeah. And one thing we have to
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: kind of get the fans ready for is ain't gonna
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: be a lot of free spending in free agency. A
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of cap room, but be
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: it's not a great free agency class either. This class
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: is lean. I mean, if you're looking to your supplement
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: here and there, maybe, but I'm talking about trying to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like I say, you wanted to go get
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a big body defense it's another one. Durron Payne would
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: be a heck of a player. They can't afford that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Heart great, they can't afford that either. So I think
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: they gotta sign signed Taylor, sign Ingram and then use
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: your draft to high draft picks on the defensive side
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: of the ball, and then come back and take maybe,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like you said, Tony, a big, big back later in
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: the round, and maybe a speed receiver, and like a
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: guy that's a track guy or something that that you
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: could maybe you know, become down the line, a guy
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: who can help you in the field. Because this is
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: one thing about them. Their receivers are good. They didn't
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: scare you though, you know what I mean. They're good,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: but they don't scare you down. In fact, it was
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: almost too horizontal the other day for my liking. Yeah,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I thought I liked it early, Pete, because you wanted
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: that defense trying to run side by the sideline is
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: to get big, big, get big Chris Jones out there
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: trying to chase people. But I thought they could have
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: been a little more aggressive earlier, um and pressing the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: ball down the field, you know, in the in the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: third core maybe second. But I like the overall the thinking,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: because I think that's the right way to play. Easy completions,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: get the defense running horizontally, opening up down the field
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But I would have liked to see
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: in a little bit more vertical. But unlike you, I
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: am very hesitant to question Doug Peterson because as a whole,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I've been super impressed and happy with how he calls
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the game. I I've said that many a time. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: just picked out one or two that irritate me every week,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: that's all. And then look, I could do that to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: every team in the league. He's a great play caller.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I just thought, And you know what, when I was
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: initially watching it, I said, oh, they ran what a
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: bubble screen and then a tight end screen to Ingram
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: on the sideline over there. And I went back and
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: watched it. If Fortner isn't lazy on that screen and
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: makes his block because he got lazy, he looked around
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and I don't know what he was doing. That play
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: goes for about thirty five it was. It was well
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: set up, so we I criticize eyes the little quick
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: throw and then followed up with that screen. But I'm
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna after watching it again, I take that back,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: because that was a big play. If Fortner isn't lazy
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: he got did you remember the play Tony he got
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: lazy out there? He didn't. He let his guy get
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: He let I think Willie Gay come underneath them and
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: make the play. Yeah, I don't know. It was lazy
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: pete or just slow recognition. Those are two different things.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So it's lazy or question the guy's effort. Is it
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: not just questions effort? He just like you know how
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: sometimes he stops. It's not lazy. He got out. He
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't lazy getting out, but he kind of like looked
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: around and stopped and then the guy come out. It
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: just it was well designed and it should have been
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: a big play. To me, that's lack of understanding of
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you know, the who you're playing, the speed because those
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: are fast linebackers. That's more recognition and awareness and reaction
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: to what you're seeing, um than lazy. So I get
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. You know he made that block. It's
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: completely different. Um, what's the rule on that? Like, if
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: you're the center, because I think it was the first guy,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: is he's supposed to peel back in to get the
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: first first jersey? You see Um, I I have to
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: go back and look at it closely because I didn't.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I could have sped through the film watch it um today.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: But typically the first guy out is responsible for whoever
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: has that guy in man coverage, and he usually got
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the center. And it was the first huh, Yeah, it
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: was Willie Gay. He had him. You can see him
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: running across with him. He had him. So he's got
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: to take him if he takes him, if he blocks him.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding when you watch it, when he
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: blocks him, there's a big play there, and in a
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: in a really big play because they had it. The
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: whole action of the Chief's defense was on the other
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: side of the field. Everything. So Doug is a I mean,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Doug's a great play caller. It's not a bad play.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He's not a good play. He's a great play caller. Um.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I just picked out every once in a while, one
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: or two of them. Let's come back in a moment.
• 59:07
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• 59:09
  Speaker 1: when we come back, and we'll hear from the number
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: one overall pick in the NFL draft, Prayvon Walker in
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  Speaker 1: of these veterans in league. Trayvon Walker, Jaguars outside linebacker
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  Speaker 1: and welcome Back's Jaguars Happy Our j P Shadrick Tony
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Wasselli Pete Prisco and it's time now for keeping it
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  Speaker 1: bon Davi. The topic today is the two Jaguars draft
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: class led by Trayvon Walker, the number one overall pick.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: What kind of impact did they make this season? If
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: you're watching on Jaguars dot Com, you see the statistics
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of all of them on your screen. Trayvon Walker first overall,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Devon Lloyd twenty seventh overall in the first round. Luke
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Fortner a third round pick, as was Chad Muma linebacker
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: and then running back Snoop Connor. Cornerback Gregory Jr. Was
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: a sixth rounder and Montere Brown and cornerback a seventh rounder.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: So what kind of impact did they make and what
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: do you expect moving ahead Tony from this draft class.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: We look at the numbers this year of the defensive guys,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think he probably got the production you're hoping for.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you pick a guy number one overall,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: we look at the number two overall pick and you know,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, that's the comparisons that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: is going to be made to Trayvon Walker going into
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: next year. I mean, Aidan Hutchinson had nine and a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: half sacks, like three picks. You know, I don't know
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: how many tackles for losses or any of that um,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: but you know, a much better UM year statistically at
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: least and how he impacted the game. Now, Treyvon is
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a more physical player, more gifted physically than Aidan Hutchinson,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: But the numbers as far as what people care about
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that position is hitting the quarterback
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: and in Traybon, I thought what he said is fair.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: He's he's got to do better. He's gotta learn the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: intricacies of working against you know, NFL offensive tackles, and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: if he does, that would be great. But this year
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: the numbers are what they are. And then you look
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: at you know, you benched your other first round under
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: your linebacker. You benched him for your third rounder, which
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Pete and I have talked about several times in the show.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: You know, picking two off the ball inside linebackers in
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the first three rounds on a team that had other
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: needs is interesting by itself, but then you don't get
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: the production you're hoping and you end up benching your
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: first rounder. Um I thought, I think the best pick
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: of this draft was Luke Foroartner started all sixteen games,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: got better throughout the year, and I think you have
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: an answer for at the center position, hopefully if he
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: can stay healthy for years to come. Um So, I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: don't like giving grades to a draft class after one year.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's nonsensical, but I don't think they probably
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: got the production they wanted to have those uh top three,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the top three defensive picks, I would agree with you
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I think tray Ball Walker has a chance to be
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: a really good player. I mean, he's a good He's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good player no matter what. The question is,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: will you ever be a good pass rusher? And the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: other question is do you play with his hand on
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the ground. I mean, that's still something to consider in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the off season. You know, he seemed to shun that idea. Um.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: You know, he says he's an outside pass rusher if
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: he learns the tricks of the trade. He's never gonna
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: be sudden. That's not gonna He's not gonna be that guy.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna be twitchy and sudden explosive. But he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: can end up being a good pass rights. You know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: somebody made a comparison to Preston Smith Tony you know,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the other day we were talking. I think it was
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Rick Fielman, who I work with. Preston Smith from the Packers,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: who was with Washington, big physical, power player, you know,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: not a great pass rusher, but Ken get sacks, you know,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: and and and influence the quarterback. Um, that's a pretty
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: good comparison when you think about it. But again, because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: he's the first overall pick, that might not be good
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: enough and so that's why I think people are gonna
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: focus on him next year and so he can get
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the quarterback on the ground Lloyd Um you know that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: pick right now, it's ajor question mark. And I think
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: he's got the talent to turn it around, but he's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: it's a major question mark. I wouldn't have drafted Muma No,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: even if he's a good player, I don't think you
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: do that. And Fortner, like Tony said, was the best
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: pick the rest of the draft, produced nothing. I mean,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: they got nothing out of those guys. Here's the thing.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Would they and you probably would never do I don't
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: think anybody would do this. Would they have been better
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: off with Sauce Gardner number one? Overall? Well the guy
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I need. But you know, you don't see teams taking
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: corners first overall. You just don't. But that might have
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: been the way they should have went when you think
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: about it. And personally, I'll be the first to admit this,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I would have taken because I didn't know what you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: want Taylor was. I probably would have taken Evan Neil
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and I would have been wrong because he didn't play
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: very well this year either. Uh And and I think
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: you know we Tony's right though, Like I'll use the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Giants as a perfect example. When Andrew Thomas was picked.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: He has tough rookie year and everybody criticized the hell
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: out of him. Well, now he's an all Pro left tackle,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and and so it takes a little time.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: So it's unfair to give out grades after a year.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: But based on what we saw, the first two picks
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: didn't produce the way they thought they would produce at all.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: We thought they'd be. You thought Trayvon Walker would have
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: eight sacks nine sacks right first year at least? I thought, yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you thought you thought Lloyd would be a sideline the sideline,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: you know, make all the plays, type of speed linebacker,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and he won that either. So I think a disappointment
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: is the word, but a lot of things to like
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: about both players, and I think the potential to be
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: big impact players is there. I just think for me,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I would play walking with his hand on the ground.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Put another fifteen pounds on him and playing with his
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: hand on the ground. Your comparison of Traymon Walker in
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Preston Smith, I think Traymont Walker is more athletic than
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Preston Smith. Um I I see the comparison of how
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: because ultimately Traymon Walker needs to become a power pass rusher. Um,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: he should watch Myles Garrett, who is a power pass
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: rusher who was good inside counter move, but he's a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: power guy. If you watch Myles Garrett, who was one
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in football. If you watch
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, one of the best pass rushers in football,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: they're both power rushers. They set it up off the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: bowl and the rip and then they have a good
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: counter to the inside. And that's the style of player
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: that Trayvon Walker needs to be. And that's how that's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: his that's his makeup. He's not going to be a quick,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you know, jump around guy, you know, avoid you. He's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna work. He needs to learn to work
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: and now offense tackle office power because he has good power.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: And I thought coming in and we talked about this beeat,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I thought Traymond Walker was gonna be a project this
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: year because he you were asking him to do something
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: he didn't do in college, and he wasn't a great
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: past rushur in college. He was a great athlete, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: so you don't develop those skills overnight. You have to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: go learn through the fire, which I think Trayvon Walker
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: did this year, and now you hope he can take
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: all that he learned and all the experiences in games
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: this year and translate that to you know, a really
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: good that translates to translates to a really good offseason
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: where he works on a skill set, gets a rush
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: game plan of what suits him. I think the bigger
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: disappointment for me, at least, I had really high expectations
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: for Devin Lloyd because of his length and his athletic
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: ability and his buil, you know, just his skill set.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I thought he would be more I thought he'd be
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: more impactful than Traymond Walker this year, just because you
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: know what he did in college and how athletic he was,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and with his length, And it'll be interesting to see,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: you know what off what kind offseason he has. What
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: does he need to do to become um more instinctful
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: to let all that ability he has come out and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: go play fast. By the way, just a little aside
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: to that, uh Nick Bosa had nine sacks this first
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: year and Myles Garrett only had seven ben So there's
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  Speaker 1: your there's what you talk about. Tony is learning the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: tricks of the trade and you can you can make
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  Speaker 1: that jump a year too. Yeah, and he has all
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the skills to do it. I mean, trayvill Walker is
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: a freak and I love what how he answered the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: questions like he's he knows that, you know, he needs
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: to like take the next step and there will be
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: a spotlight on him, whether it's fair or not. He's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: the first overall pick of the NFL Draft. People are
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: going to compare him to the best at that position
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and expect him to be one of those guys. And Uh,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I think he can do it. I think he's a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: talented guy and I hope it works out and I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: hope he uh figures out what that rush game plan
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: is for him and develops it and he has a
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: huge year next year. Pass rushers all the time take
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: a big step from year one to year two. Yeah,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think he's got the tools to do it.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: It's just a matter of if it translates. Would you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: move him inside, Tony or would you let him go
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  Speaker 1: to camp and see what he could do standing up again? Uh,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: it's a great question, Pete. But if you're gonna stay
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: in the three four, I think i'd probably keep him
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: outside because why do you give a year and find
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: out what he can really do? He played that position
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: all year. You know, you give him a plan to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: work on the offseason, do you really want to you know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: almost start from ground zero and force him to go
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: play a new position and learn a new position again.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: So you know, so that's a long way of answering.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I think I keep him right where he is, and okay,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: would you go to the four three then? I mean
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: you're looking. You look at the defensive makeup. He's a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: four three. I mean, and I know people are gonna
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: say this and they're gonna see it. How many times
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: did they have Josh Allen or Traymond Walker arden Key
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: and man coverage on or in zone coverage on with
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Kelsey in the area. That's not a good thing. Yeah,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean from their front personnel, I think
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: they probably have more of a four three personnel, you know,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: to play that type of style of defense. But that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: goes back to being coordinated between your scouting department, so
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: your GM and you're coaching staff of what you're trying
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: to do, you know, making sure you're getting the right
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: players to play the system that your coaches want to coach.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: And my concern Pete going to a four three. You
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: had a first year defensive coordinator that had some growing pains,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a good coach. And Mike called, well,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: are you gonna ask him after being coordinator for one
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: year two change his entire philosophy. He's a three or
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: four guy. That's he learned that. He's a that's the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: system he grew up in and coached under UH in Tampa.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Do you do you ask him to go come up
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: with a whole new UH scheme, the whole new four
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: three system. I think there's risk in doing that. See
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: my theory on it is is I think when you
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: look at the like the Eagles rushed the passer with
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: what four rushed the pastor? I mean again, and you're
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Nickel a lot of times, so it's different, but but
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: what do they rush the pastor with? In San Francisco? Four?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I think the best pass rushing teams have the four.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: And I mean that wasn't you don't think that was
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: frustrating seeing arden Key and Man covered j Travis Kelsey
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: in a big moment. I mean, I just I just
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: don't think that's quite what I would want from my defense. Yeah,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to your point, I think all their outside linebackers are
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: more four three ends and that's what they came into
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the league as harden Key was a four three end
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: when he came into the league. But that's where Pete,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: this is where you have to make sure your GM
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: and Scallery department are on the same page ages the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: coaches of what they want to do, and you should
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: draft players that fit that system. Yeah, and you can
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: start the game with actually three linebackers on the fields
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: if you have sixty of them. And I'm not saying
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: they're not I'm not saying that they're not in constant communication.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: It's just I'm with you. I look at the personnel
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and the guys who's outside of Cabalan Chason, who is
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: a you know, he has the makeup as a outside
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: three four backer. The rest of those guys are more,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: you know, more for three ends. Guys will say good
• 1:12:37
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  Speaker 1: no box in the mail, Pete. All right, we'll hear
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: from Pete coming up in just a few moments. Moments
• 1:12:56
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• 1:13:27
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  Speaker 1: with at Kenny ac jag. What are your minimum expectations
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: for next season? Playoffs or bust question mark playoffs? It
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: has to be playoffs, no doubt. They will be in
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the postseason next year. And you know, since we locked
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: the number one seed, they're gonna have a buy true.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: You ask every team in the league if they could
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: play ten games against the a C and NFC South,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: would they take that? Yes? Right? The schedule. The schedule
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: is favorable, and you got a franchise quarterback. They are
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: the favorite by far in the division, and that schedule
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: should get them to the number one seed. Yeah, I would.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I would say this if it'll be a huge disappointment
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: if they don't win the division next year. Correct, and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: by a couple of games too. Going away, Let's move
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: along now, next question social media, busy place of course
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: at Jack for life, would Little at left tackle and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Robinson at right tack will be the best path forward? Not?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: According to I think Pete and I are both in agreement.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: You gotta find a way to sign Juan Taylor right. Absolutely,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: don't weaken the team at two spots. Don't do it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: And uh, by the way, one quick thing about next year.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: This ain't two thousand and seventeen. We're gonna go off
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: a cliff the following year they got a sustainable quarterback,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest difference. Yep. Yeah, but you know, I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: think protect I think Juan Taylor and neither Walker Little
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: or Cam Robinson's your best bet. I mean, I'm with Pete.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: You gotta put your best five out there, and Juan
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Taylor is your best, right now he's your best offensive linement.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. According to PFF, he was graded behind
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Robinson and Little in terms of the tackle rankings this year, Tony,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: So just to get you going on on the final ship,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: don't care what this. I don't understand what they're saying. Hey,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: do you think GM's look at that stuff and like
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: make decisions based on PNFF. I don't know if they
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: make decisions on it, but they use them. There's a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: lot of teams that subscribe to them and pay them. Yeah,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: they use them. I mean you could use them like
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: they'll make decisions. I mean there's no conceivable way you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: can make a decision. Okay, I'm telling you right now.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: That's how they graded their offensive line, their tackles. Is
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: there any way, shape or form Taylor wasn't the best
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: tackle on the team. None. Now, if you're a GM,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: what you want to do? If you're treading you use
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: that in your negotiations with them? Yeah? Yeah, you're the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: third best tackle on the team. Why should I pay
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: you that money? Yeah? Of course. Social media question number
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: three today, this is a totally chad. Why do you
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: think we refused to pressure Mahomes in the second half
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: knowing he was in mobile. I don't think they refused
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to pressure. I don't think they could win one on one.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it, you know, you
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: could argue that Cobol should have been even more aggressive
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: in the blitz. But they blitzed them in the second half.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: They blitz them post injury. I can. I can show
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: you multiple clips a US sending five guys and every
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: one of them getting man handled and not getting close. Yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, and and those are the place when I'm
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: joking around about, you know, taking the guy dropping out
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: these guys. That's what they did. They blitzed from one
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: side and and took that guy out. There was still
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: not a big blitz. There's a lot of five man
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: blitz is five man pressures, you know, Pete. If it's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: five man pressure, you hope somebody can win. You gotta
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: win those situations. Next questions, MB Valen, do you think
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: there is enough film to feel comfortable with Devin Woyd
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: as a starter and making him making a big leap
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: in year two. We've touched on this tonight. How did
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: he do down the stretch when he's back in there,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: we would be better that still lost in coverage. Yeah,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: that's that. I don't think they're dependent on each other
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: watching the tape today, I don't think if you're a coach,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: you're confident with you know, based on the tape alone,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: saying oh, he's our starter, no matter what I mean,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: he lost his job this year to MoMA, the third
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: round pick. With that said, at the same time, you
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: can watch and look at his physical attributes and have
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: some confidence that he if he puts the work in,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: he's gonna make a big leap and be a much
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: better player second year Tony real quick. This is from
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Mike de Rocco. The Jaguars pressured Mahomes on only of
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: his dropbacks after the injury compared to his dropbacks prior
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: to the injury. That's a problem. That's a that's a
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: big issue. Next question social media. Twitter. In fact, at
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Nora's Kent sixteen early three stat lines for Trevor Lawrence,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: what's it gonna have next season? I was close on
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: my stat line for this year. What I say, thirty
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: and uh and thirty one touchdowns? And he ended up
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: with what did you say? You said no? I did not?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Did I no? Yes? What do you end up with?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: What do you end up with he ended up with ye.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I said, that's right, You're right. And what I say
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: for touchdowns thirty two three eight interceptions. Yeah, he didn't
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: get he didn't quite get to that. But I think
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: that little lull really set him back in terms of
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: his numbers. So I'll give you numbers for next year.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: He will have thirty seven touchdowns, Hill have seven picks,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: and you all have yards carving it up. Wow, I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: think forties thirties six touchdown passes, and he'll throw more
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: picks than you think. He'll throw ten or eleven because
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get more aggressive, and when you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: get more aggressive, you throw more picks. And I'm okay
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: with I'll take either of those stat lines right now.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: How many does Ridley have? Pete really is the big
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: question mark for me. He's the guy. Let's just assume
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: he's the same guy because that last year in Atlantic
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: he was on the ViRGE of being the number one
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well, if he's the same guy, he's gonna
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: have ten touchdowns for yards more. I think it's that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: because I mean, Kirks still gonna get his balls. Everything,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Room's gonna get his balls. The guy who get hurt
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: as far as numbers will be Za Jones. Well A
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Jones goes from the two to the three. That's right,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: that's he won't get his made targets, right. But I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: mean in the pecking order right now, you got Kirk one,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Z to Marvin three, you get Ridley, it goes maybe
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Ridley one, Kirk to Z three. It's just a big
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: question to mean, what is what is really gonna be
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: like when he comes back? Pete has been two years
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: since he played, and I mean because remember he sat
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: out it's two years, right, yes, because he sat out
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the beginning of he sat out for twenty with the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: uh he had mental health? Is uh situation he was
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: dealing with? Right, jped he played fifteen games, he actually
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: had think about this that line. Would you take this
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: for with a fifteen point three average with nine touchdowns? Yes?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I take that in an instant. And those are my
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: number one receiver numbers. Yeah, I missed my ears mixed up?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: He has. He has missed thirty nine or twenty nine games.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: And the question I have is a guy missing that
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: much time, a lot of it is going to be dependent.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't know Calvin Ridley at all. I mean,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I I've never I don't think I've ever seen him
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: in person. Is the question is to come back to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: be the guy you were before? You know, before he
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: left the game with the issue some of the issues
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: he's been dealing with is how much work are you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: putting in on your own and how intense is that work?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Because if if you're not doing the work and you're
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: not training with some intensity, that's hard to get back
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Pete to where you were after that much time gone. Yeah,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was ever a problem. That was
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: never the problem for him. I don't know what I'm
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: not saying that is. I'm just saying I don't that's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the big question I have. I think that's the height now.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: So you wonder, is and he has good years left
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: in him? You're only twenty eight, it's not and he
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't played. If he's if he can get back to
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: what he was, he's got good years left in him. Yep. Agree.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Next question, a few more left in our final social
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: media segment of the year. This is that l A
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: One Stewart, Well they double lock Super Bowl champs for
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: twenty four or will big Bow just go ahead? And
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: lock it himself. We need a lock. Well, we've had
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: a double lock already of a division title and a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: number one seed next season for the Jags. Is there
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: anything more after that? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: not ready to lock super bowls. That's let's not get
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: ahead of herself. No, I'm not. No, I'm doing no chance.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: At least, let us see how many linebackers they draft
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: in April before we do, before we get all that. Well,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: you guys locked the number one seed. I mean the
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: year before they're gonna go to neutral sites for the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: championship game. Great, unbelievable. Huh. I don't think they. I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: don't think they do that. That's tough, right, I mean,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: that would be a tough one to sell. I don't know,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: but the last time they added championship game in Jacksona,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: you might have wished it was at a neutral site.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Moving along, next question social media. Thanks a lot, Pete
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: at Trevorville underscore. Can this team win a Super Bowl
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: in the next five years? Pete and Tony, what spots
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: mean to be addressed this offseason is the addition of
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Ridley enough Ushould they draft or receiver this spring? On
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: top of it, they can win a super Bowl, and
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: in fact, if they don't win a super Bowl in
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: the next five years, I would say it's a disappointment. Um.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: And that's put a lot of pressure on that quarterback.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: But that's that's when you get when your number one
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: overall pick. That's the pressure that comes with it. Uh.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Should they add another receiver? Yes, I think they still
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: need add a speed element to the offense. And Ridley's fast,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: but he's not. I'm talking about a track speed guy.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: If you can find one in the later not early
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: in the draft, but in the later rounds. Um, And
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: that's what I would do. I would try and do
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: that Ridley. Ridley is gonna be good if he's back.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: That's a big effect we just talked about. We don't
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: know they will win at least one super Bowl in
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: the next topic, but the at least I'm just telling you,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: even so many teams that have won two in five years,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be in the jack. It's always it's always
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: the Jags. Yeah. Yes, it is a final question from
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: social media today the fanatics, Oh that was it, that
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: was all. That was the one that was in. We
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: got them all in we'll be there. Let me ask
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: you this, Well, the guy who had the phrase will
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: he be back? I think that you need to have
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  Speaker 1: the type of guys in your team. Pete great special
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: team guy. You don't really lose much when he comes
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  Speaker 1: in on defense. He's emotional. You know, he's the type
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  Speaker 1: of guy you need to keep around. I like Andrew Winger,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: and he's developed himself into a really good player. Um Like,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: when he plays defense comes into safety, it's not like
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, it's like just kind of keep
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  Speaker 1: on doing what you do. And he's a great blitzer,
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  Speaker 1: and he's physical in the run game, and he's I
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  Speaker 1: hope they find a way to bring him back. Let
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: me ask you this a couple of real quick things.
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  Speaker 1: Some of those high price defensive players, if they don't
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  Speaker 1: take a cut or restructure, are they in trouble? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think they have a big decision to make at
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  Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You know, you spend all that money on
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Fadakassi this year, and you paid a lot for a
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  Speaker 1: Roy Robinson Harris last year. Do you bring both of
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  Speaker 1: them back at their current salary. I mean, I think
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: that's something that is going to be discussed on that
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  Speaker 1: side of the building. Um, I mean, Shaquille Griffin's gone.
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  Speaker 1: I see no scenario where they bring him back. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you asked ray Sean to take a pay
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  Speaker 1: cut after the year he had. Um. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: the interior defensive lines would be interesting. That's I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you look at Photocoscis contract, I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 1: what the cap hit with dead cap would be. Now,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: you can't get rid of them. His dead cap is
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: is way too much. What's that, Roy is? I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you in a second. But yeah, no, you can't get
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  Speaker 1: Photocosy will be here no matter what. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that had that didn't work out after it looked like
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  Speaker 1: it might be a good signing early on he had,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: he didn't play as as well after after he got dinged. Uh, Roy, Roy,
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  Speaker 1: you could get rid of two million bucks. You you
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  Speaker 1: you take a dead cap, it is two million bucks
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  Speaker 1: if you got rid of them, But you'd save eight
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  Speaker 1: eight million in cap on him. So I think that
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because they you know, here's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: They've invested quite a bit on the defensive side and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: draft picks and free agency, and if you look at
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: this team, right now the strength is the offense, so
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. And what would you do with with
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: ray Sean Jenkins? Well, he has another year, right, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they could save um six million by releasing him. I
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  Speaker 1: would I bring if anything, if anything, you extend ray
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  Speaker 1: Sean for a year or two and spread that number.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I would do. And you might do that
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  Speaker 1: with Roy too. You might do that with him too.
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  Speaker 1: And especially if you get the production from Roy Robertson
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  Speaker 1: Harris that you did the last month of the season,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: he really stood out. Yeah, you guys would agree with
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: me though that Fasi hasn't didn't quite live up to
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: the hype since his injury. He has not been the
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  Speaker 1: same player because I thought he was very good early
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: in the season. But yes, I thought there was a
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: little bit of them fall off. But they don't have
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  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about trim and check Griffin's a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: definite trim. He's gone. You say thirteen million by cutting him.
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  Speaker 1: But they don't have a lot of guys you can
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: just get rid of and save money. You just don't,
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  Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to do a lot of restructuring.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: And it's not I think the Jags are one of
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: two teams that haven't moved any money into the future either,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: so you can slide it back moving around. Um, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't done any of that yet, so we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: they have in mind. Let's come back. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: fanatics fan questions. Thank you for the submissions today and
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: all season long. It's Tony and Pete's favorite segment. It
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: and they missed the phone calls. I must say that,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: especially Tony. Well back in a moment. We'll wrap it
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: up for the season. After This is Jaguars Happy Hour
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Mike Dempsey and Fat Tony
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Today, All Jaguars, All NFL, all the time, tended
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  Speaker 1: New Weekdays on ten ten x L. Welcome back the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: final Monday Jaguars Happy Hour of the season. And if
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com, we take a
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: live look outside at the Miller Electric Center. By the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: time we do this Monday show again, it will probably
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: be from that building. It is under construction that will
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: be open for business this summer by training camp where told,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: it will be ready to roll and it will be
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: a real and spectacular j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jaguars just announced that Trent Balky, general manager,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: will speak with the media tomorrow even we'll get the
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: final thoughts in the g M, and I'm sure he'll
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: go through some of the questions, um that Paton, don't
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: he just answered right here? I don't know. Hey, look,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: we we have pounded on for stuff over the last
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: couple of years and may make no mistake about it.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: When it's time to criticize, will criticize. I give him
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: credit for what he did to the offense, A lot
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: of credit for that defense not so much, but offense.
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  Speaker 1: I think he did a heck of a job with
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, this Will I mean, but Pete, don't
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  Speaker 1: you think this is like the real test come to
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: me because it's you had He had all the cap
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: room in the world, so there was no real strains.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Now you have to pick the right guys, and I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: think at times he did and other times we have questions, um,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: both in the free agency and draft. But now it's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: really gonna be on Trent and then Doug also because
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: dougsn't have a lot of input as that coach of
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  Speaker 1: like who do you restructure, who do you let go.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you work the
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  Speaker 1: cap to make sure you you know, get the right
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: guys and which ones do you resign? I mean this
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: this is like, this is a big off season for
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: this organization, this franchise organization to take the next step
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: to be that contender every year for the next five years.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big off season to go
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: make moves and what are the core pieces that you
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: have to have around to do that? And this is
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the time to do it because this is when you
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: have your quarterback on the rookie deal. I mean, this
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: is when you're supposed to do it. You know they
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  Speaker 1: got it. Look, I can save you. I'll save you
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  Speaker 1: seven million bucks right now. You you agnew goes or restructures,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: you gotta get that cap fit cap figures five eight
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: five point eight million. It's way too much for him.
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  Speaker 1: Uh he's a good returner, but that's a lot of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: money for a return man. And then you have Chase
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  Speaker 1: On You could save two and a half million dollars
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  Speaker 1: by letting him go. He's he has to be gone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I struggle with the because he is so impactful. Five
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  Speaker 1: point eight million tone me Pete I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it's it's I'm saying it's a big number for
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  Speaker 1: the role he plays on this team right now. But
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: he's become more and more of a role on offense.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a number one threat or anything.
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  Speaker 1: But you look at this year, look at the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know a couple of games late where he had
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: big returns to set up great feel position that helped
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  Speaker 1: his team. Just keep them all. You gotta make the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: hard decisions, guys, gotta go. I didn't say keep them all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would probably start with the restructuring
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  Speaker 1: of agnew before I just say I would do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'd get his cap figured way down. It has to
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: come down. So, hey, this is our final show of
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: the season. This is what we got about five minutes
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: left in the program. And it's been how many years
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: we've done this? Eight? Now? Is that right? Is it
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: that long? I've been booted out at Jacksonville Radio for
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: eight years already? More than that? No, because we did
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: this the next year JP, So it ain't that much
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: more than that. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: probably been about that long. And it's been it's been
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: fun to be a part of it. You guys lead
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: the way, man, I just I just roll the ball
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: out and you guys play. It's it's pretty easy on
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: the side. It's a fun show. Um, it's fun doing
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: a show with people you like. And I do like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: both of you quite a bit. I don't know why
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: at times, but I do. UM and JP, you do
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: a great job of putting up with Pete and I
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: and and letting us kind of go back and forth.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: And Pete and I've been friends gosh since now, and uh,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: it makes it fun to do the show. And thank
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: you to everyone behind the scenes who puts his you know,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: does the engineering, puts all the content, video and everything together.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: It's a fun show, and it's a good show, and
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I look forward to it every year. Um and we
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: joke every year it should be a year round show,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: but Pete's too expensive so we can't have for them.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: But it's a it's a fun show, and it's gonna
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: be great next year because the expectations will be so high.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: People are gonna be jazzed about this team and what
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: they can do. And gosh, it's fun not talking about
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: who we're gonna draft all season and who's the is
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: the head coach getting fired? Now you gotta now, you
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: gotta talk about how they're gonna get the number one
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: seeds as we locked. That's right, that's more fun, Pat,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: What are we doing in January? It's more fun. Hey.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, by anybody out there who wants to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: sponsor the show, sponsor the show, you can. You can
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: make it happen year round, right, that's easy. That's a
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: good point. It's just sponsorship dollars, that's all it is.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, Pete, you and I haven't done very
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: good on the sponsorship side. We still haven't gotten any
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: wine because you know what my theory on it is,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: it all goes to the stadium and JP hoards it all.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: That's my theory. There's a good chance of that, Pete,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: because you and I aren't there very often. You're never Um,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: JP might JP and Joe might just have a case
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: case blind. Yeah. I think Joe, Joe and JP, both
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: of there's probably said three cases, one for each of us,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: and Joe and JP have one and a half each.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Me and Bob, we go way back. Me and Bob
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: monday Man. Absolutely, I hope you I hope you had
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: a great holiday season with all that wine. JP. Hey,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: um hey, it's been fun, man, it really has. We're
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: looking forward to this. Who are they all? Right? So
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: if you're you're picking right now, it's twenty four overall
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Jaguars around the clock. What position you're going after? Corner
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: or pass rushure? Um? I think it's fingers are not back?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: You gotta take a tight end. Yeah, it depends with
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends with who they
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: resigned and don't. But let's assume they resigned. Ingram Um,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going best defensive player available, best most impactful player,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: well not linebacker though, I mean, okay, most impactful secondary
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: or d line player. How about that? There you go,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: There you go. I would I would also um factor
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: in tight end in case he's not bad. If he's
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: not back, I think tight end becomes, you know, like
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: a mayor the kid at Notre Dame, somebody like that.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: I think that would be perfect for that offense. Well,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: here's their thing. If a top end a guy you
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: have ranked very high on your board, but it's an
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: offensive player, let's say it's a receiver, or let's say
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: it's a time let's say the Maer kid. Let's say
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Trent and the Scouts have the Marr kid is a
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: top ten prospect and he slides in twenty four, There's
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with having mayor inn ing rom that tight end.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: By the way, one last thing about Trent signing Ridley
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: might pay off in a big way. Because the draft
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: isn't loaded with wide receivers and free agencies terrible when
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: it comes to wide receivers. That might be a move
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: that they they pays off in big, big way to them.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli, Brent Reaver on the back end
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: on video, Joe Fortunato on the audio side. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to another season of Monday Jaguars
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.