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Kill Gil, Volumes I & II (S18E09) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  four finger Discount this week where hits review episode J A B F zero one.
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  It is Killed Gills Volumes one and two. Iron Dando, I am
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  guy, and I'm looking over at my man Dando here, and he's got
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  this kind of look on his face, like do we really have to talk
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  about this episode? I get the feeling he was not all that mad.
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  I'm Not Kill Gill Volumes one and two. This didn't bother me in the
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  sense of like Code Pennants Day anything like that. I just felt this one
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  was just I've got here. I was just disappointed because you know, I
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  always have a soft spot for the Christmas episodes, right, but I struggled
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  with this one because it's the same old thing. Right. In their prime,
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  the Simpsons had a core cast of the family and a whole bunch of
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  sort of secondary characters were to be a Pooh Skinner Burns the core secondary characters,
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  and then there was just all these extras that would be popping up occasional,
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  usually for a line or two, like Guy and Old Gil is an
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  example of that character. Right to use your football analogy, You've got your
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  starting eighteen, you got your reserves, and you got your emergencies. And
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  yes, these characters like Gil is an emergency. Yes, I'd say even
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  like Lionel Huts for example, He's another example of he pops up occasionally and
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  he serves his purpose and he moves on. We don't know much about his
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  life, and that's where it was for Gil until this episode, and these
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  characters. The best thing about him is you don't know all that much about
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  them. You just get the best bits of them when you do deep.
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  Of course, now they're in season eighteen, they need to come up with
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  fresh ideas, new concepts and things like that, and we start getting deep
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  dives and characters like come book guy we've mentioned and things like that. This
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  character Gil didn't need this because for me, no one came out of this
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  episode looking better than going in. I know that they tried to build up
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  sympathy for him again at the end with Marj's ruining his beak, sort of
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  like Hohobla in Stocksdale, whatever it was. But the thing is, you
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  watched his first two thirds of this episode, and all this time you always
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  feel sorry for old Gill. But then when you watch this, you're like,
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  all this stuff that happens to him is kind of deserved. It kind
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  of brings it on himself. And that's not what I needed to know.
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  I just needed it to be like, you know, he's a good guy,
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  but things just don't go right for him here. It's like, oh,
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  he's actually a really he's a mutuary in paying the arts. Yeah,
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  it's terrible that they sort of did that, Isn't that because I mean,
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  yeah, there's an analogy I use back in my reviewing days about you know,
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  certain supporting characters or supporting actors. They're a bit like masabi. They're
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  a bit like that lovely hot spice that you have with your Japanese food.
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  It's like a little bit, Oh, you've really made the meal. Oh
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  I can. I enjoyed that so much, and you've just out of that
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  nice touch of spice. You put too much masabi on your on your sushi.
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  This is inedible and I don't like it, and I never wanted anymore.
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  So, yeah, you can't have too much. Oh, you can't
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  have too much of a good thing. No. And Gil, up to
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  this point has always been a favorite of mine ever since he's I thought,
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  I've always said here on the he's the best post Golden New character they've created,
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  right, Gil, But you watch this and you're just like, oh,
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  you've you've killed the vision. And what I liked about the character was
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  that I always thought he was just this nice guy that you just gotta love
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  him. Things just don't go right for poor old girl. No, he's
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  just not a very not he's a bad person, but he's just we all
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  have that one person in our lives. You're just like, I love you,
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  but you know you just fucking using me. You know, you go
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  from person to person to person to person, get what you can. Once
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  they stop giving it to you, just find the next sap. There's a
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  great line in the quite underrated comedy Hot Tub Time Machine. Yeah, they're
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  talking about one of the characters who's ended up in hospital some misadventure, and
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  one of the other guys says, you know how in your group of friends,
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  you got that one asshole. He's our asshole. And yeah, I
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  mean yeah, Gil has always come across as someone who just can't catch a
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  break, And what this episode sort of conveyed is it might be kind of
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  his fault. It is his, even if they try to reckcon a bit
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  later on and just have him as an occasional not one note gag, but
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  just a fleeting gag about O girls got at this time. Oh no,
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  it's not gone, Gills way. It's like it's tainted forever because we've got
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  this history, you know. And yeah, not everyone needs backstory. I'd
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  say a lot of people don't need backstory, and they serve their purpose in
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  just providing a certain gag a certain tone, a certain something like we were
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  excited somewhat by the idea of the book of Boba fat But then when he
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  watched the episode, it's like, ah, Boba Fett was just better.
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  When he didn't take the mask off, Mando lost its charm. I think
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  when he took his mask off, I was like, ahh, it's not
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  really the same. It's just a guy in a suit. You need a
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  little room to dream, you need a little room for your own imagination to
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  run right. And you know, like I wonder what gils backstory is,
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  you know, And that's when you have, as I had to say at
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  three am at the dorm room, conversations about oh what if you is like
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  this or what if yous like that? But no, to sort of have
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  something come in like this, And this isn't necessarily giving him backstory, but
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  it is fleshing him out and showing you that the true Gill. Yeah,
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  why I thinks go right for him because he brings it upon himself pretty much.
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  Why no one wants to help him because he help him. He just
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  takes everything. Oh having said that, I mean it is actually really nice
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  at the start, where you know he's like, oh, this little girl,
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  he wants this gift. I think there's a spare one in the back,
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  although it's showing that he's clearly not too broke as if there's one in
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  the back. But you know, we don't do the same. So that's
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  what I was saying. They were trying to build sympathy from them, trying
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  to he's not a bad guy, but it's just like the second things aren't
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  going right for him, it's like you try and help him, he'll just
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  like reach that as much as he can. Yeah, And I mean,
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  I think it would have been better for the episode. And I know we're
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  doing a lot of quote unquote fixing episodes lately, but I think something I
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  think was missing from this episode was having a bit of ebb and flow where
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  it's like he does something good. The Simpsons are like, oh, where
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  we feel sympathy. You know, come and sleep on our couch for a
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  little while you've ever stayed, You're welcome girl. But then he does something
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  good against like, oh, well he can't be all that bad. Upstands
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  upstowns, upstands and then he finally leaves. But unfortunately we didn't get that.
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  It was just oh, much, much, much much mooch all the
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  way through. It's like, I think they did a bit of ask covering
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  as well. I mean there's a scene where Homer goes to the bar and
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  I think it's Carl says, well, you can't kick him out. It's
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  like, why can't Home kick him out? I mean, I know that
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  you've established that this is kind of a March storyline where it's like, she
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  says, a girl, I can't say no. Yeah, she needs to
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  sort of stand upstander for her stuff. Yeah, yeah, which I felt
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  kind of out of left feel. It's like, I get the feeling there
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  could have been ways you could have integrated Marge's personality into her desire not to
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  kick Guild of the curb. We already had this story with the shut up
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  Becky. It was just a rehash. I know, we can't we said
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  last week. I think it was you can't keep touching the rehashes. But
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  these two stories, this didn't seem to work well together. And this whole
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  story being what essentially been became a Marge niece to get her independence and show
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  how strong she is. Story didn't fit the Christmas theme and the gill Are
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  no No I mean that's the that's the other thing. I mean, this
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  is clearly how is this a Christmas present? As a Christmas episode not a
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  Christmas episode? And it's not You're right, see, I mean the beginning
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  and the end at Christmas, the rest everything in between is not at Christmas.
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  And how is it a Christmas episode? You know? Yeah, it
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  doesn't have Christmas trappings or trimmings. No, it doesn't really have Christmas ideas,
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  just have the vibe of a Christmas episode. Well that's the thing.
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  I mean, like I said, how long of it? Yeah, it's
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  the beginning of the end. The rest of us just a year. Yeah,
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  and it started strong with the Christmas opening I'd really enjoyed. Apparently it's
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  only the second time ever besides Trios of Horror, where the opening sort of
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  like intro was changed to the theme. I really I was like, oh,
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  this is cool, this is different, is fresh, and then just,
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  I don't know, not great. That's what I was just more left
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  disappointed by this one. I think, I think I have to agree with
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  you. I look, I think it might have had good bones in certain
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  ways. I mean, there is an idea around Christmas about you know,
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  giving rather than receiving and you know, peace on earth and good will to
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  war men in this case, Gil, do you think because they had because
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  girls based on Jimmy, that they wanted to have a Christmas episode like this
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  because he's based on Jimmy Stewart. Is he based on Jimmy Stewart? Because
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  I think the feeling he's more sort of the main thing that I've always gotten
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  from Gill. And I don't when was he introduced. I mean, the
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  voice, isn't the voice based on Jimmy Stewart. I always thought it was
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  Jack Lemon. Remember, you're right now it is Jaqueleman. You're right?
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  Whm I get Jimmy Stewart, Yeah, Jed Qauckleman. Yeah, yeah,
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  Because there's one movie in particularly called Glengarry Glenn Ross, Yes, in ninety
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  two, I believe, but it was a play long before that, and
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  there's a character that Jack Lemon plays in the film who's this sort of salesman
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  who's passed his prime, can't close the deal anymore. You're right, Gill
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  is based on in voice and appearance on Jaqueleman's Betrayal of Shelley. Yeah.
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  Yeah, he was once a gun I mean, he was the nickname is
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  Shelley the Machine Levine, but he can't do it anymore. I think just
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  Dan does it good. Jimmy Steward, I mean it's what I'm thinking.
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  Okay, that probably is, but I mean this is very yeah, this
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  is very Jack Lemon and well, it's an interesting thing about that character is
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  that he's his own worst enemy as well. He gets sort of arrogant when
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  he thinks he's closed the sale and he starts sort of throwing his weight around
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  and realize that he's fucked up. Yeah, and that's sort of the the
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  case here to some degree as well. But you don't want to dislike Gil.
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  But as I was saying before, I don't feel anyone comes out of
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  this episode better than going in now. Say that because not just Gil,
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  Marge as well, because Marge ruins it. I know she's they're trying to
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  say that Marge needs this, but she ruins it for Gill and the one
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  chance he has, she ruins it for him. I was like, Marge's
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  kind of being she a bitch here as well. I get that she wants
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  it for herself and I know he deserves it, but like no one looks
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  good coming out. No, I mean yeah, I mean the fact that
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  she sort of calls him out in front of all these other people, like
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  you said, ruins his one tw and mean when you got have recently said
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  in your office and had her moment of venting or redemption or whatever. Yeah,
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  none of the work. Homer came out looking like a dummy as well.
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  This Homer Grumple story was honestly one of the stupidest things that's been in
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  the history of the show. It really was, And I mean I didn't
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  and I didn't like it, But at the same time, I also thought
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  this could be kind of funny if he was just so if you saw the
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  Grumble or the Grumple or whatever it is in the window occasionally just kind of
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  haunting and no one saw him there or maybe Homa, but no one has
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  believing that he's been chased by the Grumble. But that to have, like
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  Marge, go, you've got problems out there, and I'm like, no
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  one's questioning why this guy and the suits outside, and then we find we
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  find out that he's not actually a person in a suit. He's a real
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  creature who bleeds green blood. And I'm just like, what is going on.
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  Yeah, I mean I feel kind of torn because that gag where Home
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  hits him and then with a bottle and it's like, there's the grumple of
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  person, there's the grumble of greens, and I'm like, I don't mind
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  this, but at the same time, not in these episodes. Yeah,
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  I just wish that it had some I like that as a standalone gag,
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  but I just wish that had the whole Grumple bit had some more continuity.
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  And it was basically just this guy or this creature stalking Homer until the end
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  and then then the end he puts the arm around them and they have Christmasy
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  kind of thing. I don't know, but why though in the end it
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  was just like so last time we saw the Grumple, Homer smash him,
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  heaver the body, he starts bleeding. What happened the Grumple? After that,
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  there is leave him there And the next time we seen he's just arriving
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  with his family, the Grumble family at Gil's house that he just happened to
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  know where it is, and they sing songs together. Well that's because it's
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  Christmas time. Together at Christmas time and sing songs. My favorite so I'm
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  looking here at my favorite moments. Mister Davis, You've got some and I've
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  got nothing. Normally, as I'm doing the review, I'm rinning favorite moments.
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  Clearly, this is the first time in the history of this show in
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  almost nine years, I haven't put a favorite moment whilst watching the review.
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  Okay, well you're like it because I've got three. Okay, I didn't.
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  I'm sure the moments in here that could have fit in my favorite moments,
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  but I just clearly wasn't you know what it was, you're not feeling
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  I was not feeling it. You know why, because going into it JET
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  this morning, right, I realized I hadn't fed him a little bit couplen
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  hours, so learn one normally fit was okay, And I mopped the floor
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  first, and I was like, all right, So I get a tin
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  of dog food out. As I'm opening it up, what was my hand
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  warm? Then I realized all the juice from the dog food had just been
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  pouring out of the tin onto my hand and onto my freshly mocked floor.
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  So I had to like remark, whatever, and I'm like, fucking house,
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  I'm really And I put the food in to Jets bowl. He proceeds
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  to walk up and goes, yeah, I feel it, buddy, and
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  walks off, and I was like, you, motherfucker, I dirted my
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  freshly mocked floor with your shitty dog food juice. It's all of my hand
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  and my hand feels weird. And then he walked off and didn't need it.
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  Well, you're asking me to take sides against Jerty, which I will
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  never do. I don't normally do any most beloved dog there is. But
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  I think going into this episode with that mindset didn't help. Well. The
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  other thing is the valuable lesson you take away from this Dando never mop,
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  Never mop. No, But it's it's amazing A good mop that can really
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  change the vibe of a house. That is true. Look, I was
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  being very facetious with mop. I rarely mop, but when I do,
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  it's like, damn, I could sell this house two hundred grand more than
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  I how neat it is? You had no favorite moments I've got. I've
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  got a few. I'm sure I would have it, not that I don't
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  put you. You tell me yours? Well, these are more like favorite
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  lines and anything else. But when they're going through the calendar and it's doctor
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  Martin Luther King day and marchays I can't kick him out on doctor Martin U.
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  I was like, right, we're changing doctors. Yeah, that's not
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  bad. I'm a big fan of you. For missers figure downstairs area if
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  you swimsuit to the region, and for guild to refer to Homers as the
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  whole butcher shop, I think is pretty good. I don't I haven't heard
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  that before. You've heard, of course meeting too bad may Lowele butcher shop.
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  I think that's pretty good. Using that which point will say, I
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  think I mean cocktail frank. I think you mean a happy meal. You
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  know what I don't like is that, like cocktail franks, they became in
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  Australia anyway, we call them little boys. Do we call them little boys?
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  Because of that reason? I don't know why do we call them little
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  boys? That's real. God, I never thought of, like cocktail flanks
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  are called little boys. Yeah yeah, Oh dude, we're being very childish,
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  but they're called little boys. Yeah. Boy. In a semi related
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  item, I know, I thought Christian Charity was actually not a bad point.
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  I looked it up. It is Christian Charity actually a porn star.
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  I couldn't find anything. No, I think there are at least one or
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  two porn stars whose first name is Charity, which but Christmas Charity think is
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  pretty good Christian yea, yeah, yeah, the best. The best porn
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  name still remains Miranda Rights. Miranda Rights. Now that's also a character in
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  Bunkers, the Disney series. Oh yeah, now I'm confused. The person
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  who's sorry, Jim? Next question? You there eating the beast? All
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  right, trivia time, mister Davis. I'll hit you with my first question.
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  Smithers wanted to buy, well, wanted mister Boster buy him what?
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  It was? A silver picture frame, wasn't it. I'm like, very
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  planned, but you know that's what he wanted. You reach a certain stage
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  in your life where it's kind of like, you know what, I don't
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  have enough of picture frames. I asked things the things that I need,
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  not what I want. I'm getting that. I mean, I'm still not
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  there. I'm reaching the very boring stage. It's kind of like Christmas.
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  Look shirt book, whiskey pretty much it you're whiskey man. Yeah. I
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  have become that later in life. But I do enjoy a couple of things
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  of a nice single mold of the evening. M all right, so what's
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  your first question? Ummmmm. Adults pay forty dollars to get into the show
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  Hammond to do. Children pay thirty nine dollars. That's correct. What time
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  do they arrive at the realty place? Is it two seventeen seventeen? Correct?
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  Yeah, because the temperature was one seventeen, wasn't it was? Yeah?
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  And like Homer leaving the dog and the family essentially leaving the dog in
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  the car with the windows up, I'm like this gag. Not funny,
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  not cool, not cool at all. Homo was just an absolute dim with
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  this entire episode. I have written down here stopping stupid Homer. Yeah,
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  and what was that about, I'll look just about anything, Yeah, just
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  on this episode in general. It was just this season eighteen Homer. No,
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  i' I know what it is. Yeah, it's because everybody loves the
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  I think he's talking to you. And now that loud whisper has become Homer's
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  default comedy voice. You're right, Yeah, except that sounded more like something
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  else. I don't know what I'm becoming when I do, and he is
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  holding off his hand to the microphone because I'm very good at Udio doing visual
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  gags for do you You're right? Yeah, that it has become a thing,
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  hasn't it? Now? Trait Homa does it more and more often now?
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  Yeah, and you know it worked a treat with mister Thompson. I
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  love that. Yeah, I think I'm whispering, but I'm not saying the
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  quiet part loud, yeah, which you know has become a thing. I
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  mean, so many people, so many stories that I edit will have someone
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  say, someone says that the quiet part loud today? Not really? All
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  right? Your next question, Oh, did I authority just gave you one?
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  Or no, you just gave me one? I answered that correctly.
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  When is James L. Brooks's birthday? Oh? I've got it in my
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  notes, I know, I look it up, and I don't look it
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  up. I'm gonna try and guess. Is it July ninth? It's May
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  night? May ninth, and it was a nine damn nearly May, and
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  I may the When did the note? When did the Star Wars movies come?
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  It? May twenty something, didn't it? They always dropped on May
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  twentieth or something not made the fourth I always dropped like May something though.
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  Let's look a Phantom Menace release date? Or was it the May nineteenth Fantom?
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  How do fuck what? I know? I think it's the twenty ninth
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  of May list because there's a movie that actually is called it was dropped May
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  nineteenth. Okay, yeah, how the fuck does my brain remember shit like
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  that? But I can't remember what I did yesterday with the kids? Yeah,
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  our brains. I remember the release date of the Phantom Menace. Our
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  brains are weird creatures. Oh, I really am anything, but I can
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  remember anything like pre this year. I'm fine with. My short term memory
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  is absolutely shot. Just kids, mate, I blame the Internet and kids.
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  Yeah, and YouTube things, just attention spans. So you're watching YouTube
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  and it's like you're watching a video, But how often now are you watching
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  TV? Before you pull your phone out and you realize you're your phone in
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  your hand, You're like, what am I doing? I'm not even watching
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  this? What am I doing? Will they talk about this? I mean
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  the streaming service in particular, talk about seconds green syndrome where it's like,
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  you know, we don't want to we want to have engagement on both things.
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  I mean, so you know you'll be texting, hey, I'm watching
• 19:15
  this new thing on Netflix or tweeting about it. Tweeting about it, yeah,
• 19:19
  yeah, while it's going. I mean, I'm as guilty as the
• 19:23
  next person. I mean, I started watching the show on Netflix last night,
• 19:26
  really enjoying it, but of course had to break the phone out and
• 19:30
  say, hey, I'm watching the show and it's pretty good. Well,
• 19:32
  what are you like when you're sitting there with Louise? Right, So,
• 19:33
  when I'm sitting there watching a show of Nikola and she pulls her phone out,
• 19:37
  it kind of annoys me, like are you watching it? Because I'm
• 19:38
  just like, am I sitting here by myself watching this show? Would you
• 19:41
  rather me just go? I can go do something else because I'm watching this
• 19:45
  schoo I want to watch it with you. But she's sitting there looking at
• 19:47
  a phone, scrolling through Instagram, and I'm like, you're clearly like you're
• 19:49
  listening to it, but you're not watching it. I'm just like the whole
• 19:52
  idea of and I know it's like, oh, you know, at least
• 19:55
  you're together on the couch and sort of like the lovely moments, but it's
• 19:57
  like you're not there though. I get where you're coming from, but I
• 20:03
  don't know I mean, Lou and I do this as well. It will
• 20:04
  be occasions when we're you know, the stuff that we watch is generally does
• 20:07
  require one hundred percent of your attention, but you know, we'll have occasions
• 20:11
  where we're both sort of doing a little bit of scrolling looking up, a
• 20:14
  little bit scrolling looking up, and yeah, occasually making out. I hate
• 20:18
  it though, especially the making out. I hate it. It's the all
• 20:25
  right, I don't have any more trivia questions? You have any one more
• 20:26
  for me? Uh No, I don't. I mean, And here's the
• 20:30
  thing I sort of came up with a lot of which I think is a
• 20:33
  sign of not a good episode, where it's kind of like, I bet
• 20:34
  I could stump into this as opposed to being involved in the episode. I'll
• 20:37
  try and stop you with another date to one then all right, Oh okay,
• 20:41
  so what is July third? Oh, it would be it would be
• 20:45
  like Nephew's Day. No, it would be like January third for us weatherwise.
• 20:49
  Oh okay, the hottest day of the year or air condition Appreciation Day.
• 20:56
  It's a nice warm day here in Sunday, jam is. Yeah,
• 21:00
  the weather's just turned itself on, hasn't it. It has. Look we
• 21:02
  had yes yesterday was Melbourne Cup Day. I was spoken. I spoke about
• 21:04
  this on our friends podcast. Right still I know who won it slightly,
• 21:08
  I don't care anymore. Slight little detour though, and we'll get to the
• 21:11
  review of the episode. So you're doing some cross promoting. That's pretty savvy.
• 21:15
  Yeah, but Nicol and I went out for breakfast yesterday. Shit the
• 21:18
  day off right because she works in Melbourne, so it's in Melbourne office.
• 21:19
  She works in gel long for as the weak Melbourne office, Melbourn Cup day
• 21:22
  off right to the day af together went out for breakfast. What is this
• 21:26
  horseship? And we weren't trying to work out when did businesses and who was
• 21:29
  the first business to sort of establish this concept and everyone just went with it.
• 21:33
  Charging fifty percent extra on public holidays. This has become a thing now,
• 21:37
  is true? Where they go for should we go to chuge it?
• 21:40
  Why? Okay, can you tell me why? Because the guy yesterday we
• 21:42
  went to a place we won't name in the place right, It's like,
• 21:45
  I just like you, it's fifty public holiday. I'm like, let us
• 21:48
  not though in Geelong and he goes yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like,
• 21:52
  so, I know it's public hol day in Melbourne, but not in
• 21:55
  Gelong. So and he's like, oh, we we didn't do it for
• 21:57
  Geelong Cup. And I'm like, you mean you didn't do it on the
• 22:00
  Geelong Cup public clan? You're full of shit? You know, I like
• 22:03
  you one hundred percent did But like, when did this start? And why
• 22:07
  are we allowing them to get away with it? I don't I was,
• 22:08
  so I stand by it is absolute horseshit that just because I know a businesses
• 22:14
  are struggling right now, but just the whole making us pay the extra?
• 22:18
  Fuck them. You started a business. This is part of running a business.
• 22:21
  You make more money on public colities. Is people off work? They're
• 22:23
  at your fucking place spending their money. You make more money, therefore you
• 22:26
  pay the fucking work is more money? Right? This whole making the customer
• 22:30
  pay the extra adds bullshit to me. I'm not a fan of at all.
• 22:33
  He's certainly not happy, and yeah, I agree with him. Why
• 22:37
  should I compare it to the tip system in the US? Oh god,
• 22:41
  the tip system? Look what, so we have to pay a tip because
• 22:45
  you guys aren't paying the proper wages? Correct? Yeah, and look on
• 22:48
  occasions, I don't mind that when you get good service. But the last
• 22:53
  time that Lunar were in the States, you know, most of the time
• 22:56
  you're going into some canter jockey, you're let not even talking to them.
• 23:00
  It's like punch your order into the end of the touch screen. Here,
• 23:03
  it's just an expectation. Do you want to add a twenty percent tip?
• 23:06
  I'm like, for what I went to we went when I went out with
• 23:10
  with Matt and Phil and Melbourne, that right right, everywhere we went to
• 23:11
  expected a tip. And I'm like, don't you motherfuckers try and weasel this
• 23:15
  into our system. It ain't happening. You get paid enough at your Melbourne
• 23:18
  fucking restaurant. I know you're getting paid enough. I'm just a pole podcast.
• 23:25
  Yeah, but I was just like, fifty percent get stuffed. Yes,
• 23:29
  now you're correct, particularly as you said. I mean, it wasn't
• 23:32
  even a poppy cold angel along. Yeah it's Melbourn. Yeah it's Melbourne.
• 23:34
  I know a lot of Melbourne people are moving to Geelong, but still it's
• 23:37
  not. As soon as I ask him about it, it was like,
• 23:41
  oh no, no anyway, So the original day of this episode was December
• 23:45
  seventeenth, two thousand and six, so I'm assuming it'd be probably the second
• 23:48
  last episode, maybe the last episode for two thousand and six. Let's look
• 23:52
  it up, shall we. Let's go down to the next episode, The
• 23:53
  Wife Aquatic, which originally aired in January. This is the last episode of
• 23:56
  two thousand and six. I did at least ad aman Chrismas time, but
• 24:00
  it was especially Christmas. It was. It was It's kind of like die
• 24:04
  Hard. You know, you said Die had a Christmas movie because it's set
• 24:07
  at Christmas, but there's not much Christmasy about it besides the fact of the
• 24:10
  Christmas party at the start and he puts the Christmas head on the eye.
• 24:11
  Yes, that's pretty much it. But you watched the Christmas because it was
• 24:15
  set at Christmas. This was set at Christmas at the beginning and at the
• 24:18
  very end, but it's not a Christmas episode. And at the end they
• 24:19
  played let it snow, let us not at Yeah, does that to find
• 24:22
  a Christmas movie? Though? I don't think it really does. Like it's
• 24:26
  just fun to say it is for life, not for Christmas. And again,
• 24:30
  as I always say, I mean, if you're gonna call Die had
• 24:33
  a movie you got to call lethal weapon of Christmas movie. Yeah, it's
• 24:36
  like Gremlins. To me is a Christmas movie. The whole thing is set
• 24:37
  at Christmas. It's just Christmas snadi. It's a horror movie, but it
• 24:41
  has the Christmas vibe to it throughout the entire thing. Yes, but this
• 24:44
  episode was written by Jeff Westbrook and directed by Bob Anderson. Now, funnily
• 24:48
  enough, do you know this episode right? We haven't been high on it.
• 24:51
  Not the worst episode of all time, but just not high on it.
• 24:52
  It actually won an award. It won the Writer's Guild of America Award
• 24:56
  for Best Animated Program, And I was like, really, there must have
• 25:00
  been some weak entrance that year, like this is this is nowhere near the
• 25:04
  best episode of season eighteen even review. Do they call that, mister burns
• 25:07
  of Wood, you know, achievement? Yeah, it sounds like what a
• 25:11
  god? That a participant medal? But this this one wasn't as good as
• 25:15
  like ice Cream of Marjorie or who Hoarde Couple? I don't think so,
• 25:18
  no, no, not at all. But yeah, so it was the
• 25:22
  Captain chop Boar gag. We had a chopball gag this week Franklinsons is not
• 25:26
  a monster, and the catch gig was one where they jumped to the couch
• 25:27
  pan out and they're inside a Christmas ball. But I just really enjoyed the
• 25:32
  opening segment here, the opening like intro, so I've got to here the
• 25:36
  opening sequence. This is all written on the wiki page for those of you
• 25:37
  who haven't actually watched the episode, this is what happens. It's redesigned in
• 25:41
  the Christmas style, not counting the trust for a Treehouse of Horror episodes.
• 25:45
  Is this only the second time they've done this. The theme changes that the
• 25:48
  whole town is now covered in white snow. The other changes include the likes
• 25:52
  of Homer running to the right as opposed that left with mister Burns dresses,
• 25:56
  Ebone's a scrooge, and Miss Smith is dressed as the ghost of Jacob Marley.
• 25:59
  Yes signs no bonuses, Merry Christmas, no bonuses, yes, which
• 26:02
  I thought was good. Jasper is standing where the late bleeding Gums Murthy would
• 26:06
  normally stand. Yeah, because he was because when they did the original intro,
• 26:08
  Bleeding Gums were still alive. So they've this and they never changing the
• 26:11
  intro, but they've updated it for Jasper. In the quick pan across Springfield,
• 26:15
  mord Flanders can still be seen alive. Bart's skateboard is replaced with the
• 26:18
  snowboard. Marge and Maggie's grocery and car scenes have been cut out, which
• 26:22
  was a kind of a weird cut. It's like, if you're going into
• 26:22
  all this trouble, why you shortened it? And everyone is in Christmas attire,
• 26:27
  which goes with the catch gave of them being in the ornament. Now.
• 26:30
  The title of the episode killed Bill, Killed Gill's volume one and two
• 26:33
  obviously planning kill Bill Apparently in Ah where was it? It was like Spain
• 26:40
  or something. The kill Gill is actually like the their translation for yeah,
• 26:47
  I didn't know that. Yeah, it might be Spanish, but was somewhere
• 26:49
  where it was and yeah. So the episode kicks off with Krusty Christmas on
• 26:55
  Ice? Have you ever been to like a Christmas on Ice? I'm about
• 26:56
  to ask you who have been to an asking? I don't think I have.
• 27:00
  I've never been to any ice show ever. Even when I was in
• 27:02
  America, we went to like state like shows that this awesome kick ass linking
• 27:06
  show which wasn't a nice but it was animal kindom. But I've never been
• 27:08
  to an ice show. I've got this weird feeling that I have been to
• 27:11
  one, but I can't remember exactly where it went. It's like, I
• 27:15
  know I've seen a lot of them on screens, but I get the feeling
• 27:18
  I've actually been to one in person. Yeah, I can't recall, for
• 27:22
  the life of me the details of it, but I kin't of much my
• 27:25
  kids really caring that much to sit through like two hours of Disney characters just
• 27:29
  skating around. Yeah, I mean, I think you'd have to have a
• 27:30
  really good seat, and probably it would be the opposite of a normal thing
• 27:34
  where it's like, oh ring sad seats. It's like you're not going to
• 27:37
  say much. But if you've got those blood seats, you're like, oh
• 27:38
  wow, they're doing a pinwheel or something like that. They're normally doing it
• 27:41
  like Rod Dave Verena. I think, yes, it begins, Hey stop
• 27:48
  that podcast, and there's Our neighbors are rambunctious, to say the least.
• 27:52
  I didn't close the window there, so be Chrusty keeps falling over when he
• 27:55
  comes out. Are they we are high because we are busty? I was
• 27:56
  like, eh, I just kind of thinking that when they said it,
• 28:02
  Christ keeps falling overwy laughing at old man's pain. But this is really all
• 28:04
  that funny, you know, the rib which comes out the Ribbert Matrix,
• 28:07
  pougy I've got to kick out of very my two thousand and six. I
• 28:11
  guess the gag is that it's meant to be out of date sort of.
• 28:12
  This would I was introduced in like two thousand have just kept the same cat
• 28:15
  because we're not buying any costume. That's the thing. You've just you've you
• 28:18
  missed the boat or you're sticking with the same old, same old. Oh
• 28:22
  yeah, by when did the last Matrix come out two thousand and Well,
• 28:26
  the new ones came out in two thousand and three because there was like a
• 28:29
  four year gap, wasn't it. They came out like months I think apart
• 28:32
  months or a year apart, now only two months apart. Weren't they really
• 28:34
  reloaded? And I'm pretty sure Matrix reloaded release date was May fifteenth, and
• 28:44
  Revolutions was the third one, is that right? Revolutions? So May fifteenth,
• 28:47
  two thousand and three, twenty seventh Gotober two thousand and three. Oh
• 28:51
  okay, So what's that June, July, August, September, October,
• 28:52
  six months apart, which was a ballsy concept. It was, yeah,
• 28:59
  but it's how you know popular The original matrix was, It's like, people
• 29:03
  are gonna want one matrix, let's give them, give them to both barrels.
• 29:07
  And you watch that third when you're like, oh, you can just
• 29:11
  you can feel the air just deflating out of the tides, like gonna make
• 29:14
  it, gonna make it. Look to the finish line. This this was
• 29:18
  one movie, like one one perfect movie and one yeah, and one should
• 29:23
  have been a long imperfect sequel. Having said that, I mean, I
• 29:32
  think I've got a I think the lovely lou is taking a weekend away to
• 29:34
  sit neey with her daughter, which means it's share, which means Guy's doing
• 29:40
  to sit on the crouch and his undies. So regular Tuesday pretty much.
• 29:42
  Yeah, thank you for dragging me away from undepends termed Dan do outside the
• 29:48
  guy's ass has his own congressman with his reaching broom. I love through bet
• 29:57
  on the kitchen table. Where's my reaching broom? But I think I might
• 30:02
  have a yes, a trilogy day where it's either Lord of the Rings.
• 30:04
  But I'm to watch it every year. Now it's been a while. Novely
• 30:08
  watch it every Christmas. Well, now I've got a girlfriend and it's like,
• 30:12
  you're spending boxing now with me. Well that's implied. That's a lot
• 30:17
  of the rings. No, wedla, a lot of the rings. So
• 30:22
  I married a dorg anyway, But I thought it's been a one since I
• 30:26
  watched all three Matrix movies. Even though there are four, I haven't watched
• 30:29
  the second or third in I reckon fifteen years if not more. Well,
• 30:33
  I think I love the first one. Yeah, I'm thinking maybe it's time
• 30:37
  to give all three a whirl again. But yeah, Matrix Poochy. But
• 30:40
  it's not a trilogy anymore was a day. That's true. It's a quadrilogy.
• 30:42
  It's a quartete. You watch that fourth one, you're like, ah,
• 30:45
  oh, yeah, we didn't really need this. It's okay, it's
• 30:52
  fine. It's got some interesting ideas. I don't know, I don't know,
• 30:56
  but yeah we had Matrix Poochy and then who comes out? But yeah,
• 31:00
  Saicho Mal who has just got off the plane from his father's funeral.
• 31:03
  And I was like, well that's just sad. It's like that, don't
• 31:06
  make me feel bad for mel this is gonna be a Christmas episode. You've
• 31:07
  already made me feel We've already laughed at an old man's pain. You made
• 31:11
  fun of a guy getting off the plane from his day's funeral. I'm like,
• 31:12
  this is not a good start for a Christmas episode. Not really,
• 31:15
  No, no, let me get a guest appearance from himself, Alvis Stoico.
• 31:18
  Indeed who I thought? Real person that I looked up, real person,
• 31:22
  real figure skater, not gay, not gay. No girlfriend of Vancouver,
• 31:26
  which, although is made up a city. Well that's true, that's
• 31:29
  true, but also not gay because exactly married to a woman in real life,
• 31:32
  Elva Steiker was so handsome he can laces up my skates anytime. Don't
• 31:37
  you Haggs know that all male figure skaters are twinkly in the LUTs. That's
• 31:41
  a common misconception. I have a girlfriend in Vancouver, made up girlfriend,
• 31:45
  made up city. Now, speaking of not gay, you know what I'm
• 31:48
  confused about. Someone who or someone who is gay is Patty. She's come
• 31:52
  out as gay. Why did she find him attractive? And like, oh
• 31:56
  he's so handsome and he's like, hey, you brought You need to understand
• 32:00
  he's not, he's not available. It's like she's I understand you can be
• 32:04
  gay and still appreciate, but it's like the way they implied this was that
• 32:07
  there was like the old classic Patty and Summer gone, ooh, that mcguy
• 32:09
  was so hot. That's the kind of stick this was going for. It
• 32:13
  wasn't the like some was saying. It would have been fine, but Patty,
• 32:15
  it just felt weird. I guess, yeah, we've established here that
• 32:19
  she is the out character. Yes, I guess they wanted any reason to
• 32:24
  throw in a gay gag. Of course they didn't, And but they went
• 32:29
  about the screens Christmas besides flamboyance cat wait mean to say flamboyance that's our code
• 32:35
  word now? Who came up as saying as gay as Christmas? I don't
• 32:37
  know is it still said? Had someone saying about three months ago. I
• 32:42
  was like, I'm not sure we'll had to say that anymore. The guy
• 32:45
  he's his gay as Christmas? And I was like, hmmm, yeahstive family
• 32:49
  fun it does. That's the thing I mean, I probably wasn't saying back
• 32:52
  when gay meant merry and happy as opposed to yeah, okay, it's a
• 32:57
  new meaning or it's not even new meaning. It's been It's means for a
• 33:01
  while. But you know, they had the kids skating there and Homo says
• 33:06
  to Lisa, if I paid for skating lessons, they could have been you.
• 33:07
  And yep, that just set off the whole trend of him just being
• 33:10
  a douche bathe This entire episode essentially pretty much Yep, Crusty email A performing
• 33:15
  what the Nutcracker whatever whatever it was that it's a song from The Nutcracker.
• 33:17
  Anyway, that's what you know. When they did that Christmas episode last year,
• 33:22
  which was awesome, Christimpson's Christmas Stories and they had the final seven which
• 33:27
  was all based to this song. Correct, I love that? So the
• 33:29
  Nutcracker Sweet? I believe sweet? Is it? Okay? Yeah? But
• 33:31
  this is probably be one of my favorite moments where it falls down, Oh
• 33:34
  shut up, you knew the deal. Then the grumple he's stealing the holiday
• 33:37
  cheer home. We're scared of the Grumble. Then we get I guess it's
• 33:42
  Frosty the Snowman, Candy, Kevin and Grumble. They all beat up the
• 33:45
  Utah Jaz because they're trying to take over the arena to play a basketball game
• 33:49
  in an hour or so, and Homer beats up the Grumble and yeah,
• 33:52
  I just I was just not sold on this Grumple. I just don't know
• 33:55
  how, because apparently the Simpsons episodes go through rewrite after rewrite after rewrite though,
• 34:01
  and I get they're working on the movie at this point, but how
• 34:04
  does this story get through that many rewrites? People go, yep, let's
• 34:07
  stick with it. I don't know, but I mean, this is one
• 34:09
  of those things that had like a relatively quick fix where it's just Homer showing
• 34:15
  irrational fear of the Grumple, and but Marge saying something like, oh,
• 34:19
  the Grumples not real, it can't or oh Homer again with the Grumple,
• 34:22
  you know, like it's an ongoing thing that he's perpetually scared of the Grumble
• 34:27
  Sark puppets. Yeah, pretty much. And yeah, that sort of sets
• 34:30
  up the fact that you know, he's going to be haunted by the Grumple
• 34:32
  all the way through the episode. That's my thought. And it's always just
• 34:35
  like that, could you see him? And then they look and he's not
• 34:37
  there? Yeah, and so is Homer imagining this or is he not?
• 34:39
  Yeah, it's like it's just a kind of costume. It's not much that
• 34:43
  would have been funnier, you know. So then we're at Constanton's and everyone's
• 34:46
  shopping for their family, late night, late shopping Christmas Eve apparently, Oh
• 34:51
  that's true. Yeah, yeah, everyone's shopping on Christmas Eve. We mean
• 34:52
  to the last night. It used to be a great thing. It's gone,
• 34:55
  mate, I was talking about it. Maybe it's about on this podcast.
• 34:59
  I'm not sure about Marcus Square. One of my favorite memories of Market
• 35:00
  Square is Christmas Eve going out with Mum and picking up the Christmas presents from
• 35:05
  like all the various places, and its just being pumped and playing Christmas songs
• 35:08
  and everyone's just happy. It's fucking ten thirty on Christmas Eve. A good
• 35:12
  time, no one. Yeah, you're not getting static from anybody. It
• 35:14
  was like some people just hanging out there. We're all here for the same
• 35:17
  thing. Yeah, let's try and make this as quick and painless as possible.
• 35:21
  Hey, Merry Christmas to you, all that kind of stuff. Now
• 35:22
  we're just sort of, you know, sitting on the doorstep waiting for the
• 35:25
  Amazon prime guard or what's exciting though it is it is. It's nice when
• 35:31
  you're tracking your Amazon. It could be here tomorrow. Yeah. It's like
• 35:35
  yeah, like Zuckerberg at the end of social network, just hitting refresh,
• 35:38
  refresh, refresh on your Amazon. On your Australian posting, it's like,
• 35:42
  yeah, when it comes up, it's coming today, It's like, oh
• 35:45
  what I am now my postman for I think it's Australian Post. Australian Post
• 35:52
  Jeremy Jessa. I don't know him, and it was just like I'm like,
• 35:58
  onto the sign and thing. He's like, no, nah, but
• 35:59
  all good. I've got a surly guy who is not being friendly, the
• 36:04
  same guy for you know, he's dropping up a lot of stuff lately.
• 36:07
  I'm like I need to say anything. No, I'll be sitting ther editing.
• 36:10
  I hear Brandon package at the door. Bro. He's like a ledge
• 36:15
  and then I'm just like, well again he's just like see you, bro.
• 36:21
  The funny thing is this man's Irish, but he's just havn't he's his
• 36:24
  love and life. Like you know, sometimes you see postman, its like
• 36:28
  again, I've brought it up some jobs. I'm like, I would love
• 36:30
  to do this just for six months, yes, bringing the joy to people,
• 36:32
  delivering their packages mail, No, Yeah, but delivering the Santa all
• 36:37
  year round, yeah, it'd be so much fun. No one, No
• 36:40
  one's unhappy to see the post, the package delivery person. So many people
• 36:45
  left where we used to work when they worked in the warehouse, like seven
• 36:49
  to one trot or to work for Star Trek. They're like, I'm going
• 36:51
  to deliver shit, and I'm like, good on you. I mean,
• 36:53
  I don't know. If you're an independent contractor, I guess you'd probably have
• 36:57
  to pay for your own petrol, maintenance, all that kind of stuff.
• 36:59
  I don't wouldn't be independent. Yeah, but there were many Amazon's independent,
• 37:02
  A lot of them now, aren't they. I think so? Yeah,
• 37:05
  they're always looking at cutcosts. Yeah, friend of the pot Amazon. Yeah.
• 37:10
  Imagine if you're working for a straight post, which in Star Trek is
• 37:14
  a straight post as well, isn't it. I have no idea I believe
• 37:16
  that. Yeah, an affiliate thereof But yeah, they'd probably pay for your
• 37:20
  petrol and all that kind of stuff. Or you do, it's just groove
• 37:22
  round in your van A stilly dan there got a little suddenly. I'm stopping
• 37:25
  off to get a couple of dim sem bottle of coke and bow months pie
• 37:29
  and then dry on the seat. One of the fondest memories I have of
• 37:36
  my old gig when I was working at the street paper down here Forte was
• 37:38
  every fort I love the orde referred to as the street paper. No,
• 37:44
  it's not bad. It is the street paper. It's always like that's what
• 37:46
  it is, is like the street paper fourteen remember street papers A little context,
• 37:51
  right, yes, yes, but every fortnight, this was the nineties,
• 37:55
  I get an extra fifty bucks cash to get in the van with another
• 38:00
  person and deliver it. You know, we'd get our Fortnit's copies bundled up.
• 38:06
  It's like, okay, the businesses and people put it in like the
• 38:08
  front fours, like the doctor's clinics and yes, so it was yeah,
• 38:13
  cafes, clubs, pubs, et cetera. And there we was. We
• 38:16
  had two vans. One would go around the Geelong and the Surf Coast and
• 38:21
  me and this other guy whose name was Simon. Okay, I mostly did
• 38:24
  the run with Simon, who was he ran this record shop. We'd do
• 38:28
  Ballarat and you know we'd start early in the morning. You'd get a coffee.
• 38:32
  I was still smoking cigarettes to that stage, so you don't have a
• 38:35
  coffee and a fag, and so you're getting paid your hour of the red
• 38:37
  plus fifty dollars on top of two this no, this was just a fifty
• 38:42
  dollar thing. But how long? Not all day? It's like fifty dollars
• 38:47
  then is probably of like one hundred bucks an hour? Oh pretty much?
• 38:50
  Ye? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I was like this is this is
• 38:52
  all right? But you know you're playing good music. You just you're dropping
• 38:55
  off, dropping off that tissue, picking up the old ones. It was
• 39:01
  such a great time. Yeah, I'm picture it now, Like you said,
• 39:07
  Dimmy's from the Servommies, from the server where were getting lunch from?
• 39:12
  Oh there's that cafe in in. I love when you find like a milk
• 39:15
  buddy ever been before and you're like, I'm gonna try the dimmies and it's
• 39:19
  oh my god. Anyway, enough reminiscing, Yeah, enough reminiscing. So
• 39:25
  christmasp if everyone's shopping, that's right. So Quimby's buying clothes for his wife
• 39:30
  and he's mistress mistress. I did like the the wife's size and mistresses.
• 39:36
  Mister Burns buy is the gift for Philip, which it was a weird dag
• 39:38
  who is Philip? We never seen him again? No, No, I
• 39:42
  mean it's on one. On one hand, that's a very obvious gag.
• 39:45
  He's like, oh, well, he's got a bromance going with this guy
• 39:49
  who was essentially Smithers, and he's not noticing that Smithers is always there and
• 39:52
  that kind of stuff. No, Smither's a need to advice. Picking at
• 39:55
  a gift for a very dear friend of man, a single fellow, but
• 40:00
  one with a warm, loyal heart. Well, sir, a fella like
• 40:04
  that might have had his eye on this silver frame. It would go great
• 40:07
  with his collection of Art deco. Shut up, shut up, there he
• 40:10
  is, Hello, Philip, what are you doing here? Never you mind,
• 40:17
  mister nosey, are you going to that string cordet thing? Because I'm
• 40:22
  not here goopy for that. This is the classic example of a Season eighteen
• 40:30
  version of the well maybe someone's gonna buy it for you for Christmas? And
• 40:32
  how goes it? Should be really surprised when shure and he's an ironboard cover,
• 40:37
  someone thinking that gifts for them when it's not, but then just ruining
• 40:40
  it by going to and just kept going and going and going. Well,
• 40:44
  that's the thing. There's so many gigs in this that I just let's keep
• 40:46
  we can work it out. Yeah yeah, like and the Grumple is the
• 40:51
  main example of that. It doesn't have to talk, it just has to
• 40:53
  be yeah again again they like mister Burns just being horrible. Everyone's just horrible
• 40:58
  in this episode. Yeah yeah, I'm looking for yeah, and they that's
• 41:02
  the thing that they, I mean, the Simpsons, I think, sometimes
• 41:05
  prides itself on like, oh, we're gonna zag where other people zig.
• 41:07
  I mean that's what it sort of started as it's like all these families,
• 41:10
  so it comes to like lovey dovey and everything like that, and we're a
• 41:13
  bit like this is what families are really like, but we still love each
• 41:15
  other. Yeah yeah, But for this episode to be like Christmas time people
• 41:20
  guess what these people everyone's behaving badly, but at the end we're gonna come
• 41:23
  together and everything's going to be good. And it's like, why would Gill
• 41:27
  be like this when it's like you just cost him he's one chance to be
• 41:30
  successful and he's like, Oh, it doesn't matter, come back to the
• 41:30
  place and more. Just sing songs and be happy. I'm like, it
• 41:32
  doesn't work. I mean even for him to say it's like, oh,
• 41:36
  you know what, I took advantage of you for so long. I don't
• 41:38
  shame on me, or something that doesn't say that, doesn't say that.
• 41:40
  That would have been a better ending for this, rather than have March's ruined
• 41:44
  it for Gil, have Gil just just having meet up with him realized there's
• 41:47
  been a success. I wouldn't have written him out of the show, but
• 41:51
  it would have been a nice character shift. I think you have n't be
• 41:52
  success with him for a few persodes. Well. When was he introduced.
• 41:55
  It was an introduced in the fucking the last So people always say he's a
• 42:00
  replacement for like Lionel Huts, right, and he actually appears in the last
• 42:04
  episode featuring Lionel Huts before Phil Hartman obviously was taken away from US Realty Bytes
• 42:08
  where he works at the real which is why he is based on Glen garryl
• 42:12
  I'm not sure you so he came in season nine, Okay, so he's
• 42:15
  been around for a while nine years. Yeah. Yeah, And again as
• 42:19
  we said, I mean, look, he's a gag that's good and fun,
• 42:22
  but I mean he's not necessarily irreplaceable. And I get the feeling he's
• 42:24
  been around long enough for this stage. Was like, let's give him a
• 42:27
  graceful as let's send Gill out on a w Yeah, no, but no
• 42:32
  deal. Well, but what good old Shadow bring you for Christmas? Soon?
• 42:37
  I wanted Dirk bike one of those video game chairs that vibrate. Dad,
• 42:42
  he's not the real Sandra. We can't afford that stuff. Shut up,
• 42:46
  shut up, shut up. I better go after him. What are
• 42:53
  your thoughts on Kernini's son. We've had this a few times and it's just
• 42:57
  it's one of those logic gaps where I'm just like, I find it so
• 42:59
  confusing. When you've seen Keernie's dad as well. In the episode of The
• 43:01
  Home of they form one of the guys beating up Homer at the bar.
• 43:04
  It's like, this doesn't make sense anymore. Yeah, I've never got it.
• 43:08
  I don't think it's particularly funny. It's not funny, is it?
• 43:12
  The for a one time gag? Maybe the whole I sleep in the drawers,
• 43:15
  like, eh, one time, I forget about it. But to
• 43:17
  be going on with to make it, it's just confusing to me. It
• 43:21
  is. It is very confusing. But then Lisa's turn for to tell Santa
• 43:24
  what she wants and what do you want? Well? Peace? What No?
• 43:27
  I like that. It's like even Lisa's like, I do want that,
• 43:31
  yes, but it's Christmas time. I want I want presents, but
• 43:35
  she wants the sold out Malibu Stacey Pony Beach party with sparklesand and Gil realizes
• 43:39
  I sold you know there's one out back. I'll go get it for you.
• 43:43
  And then did you see the sign? Yeah? Yeah, Santa's making
• 43:45
  presents. Just sitting on the toilet. I was like, that's good,
• 43:50
  that's not bad. I like it. Thank you, thank you, thank
• 43:54
  you. You're reeling. Made my daughter's Christmas well her smile, I made
• 44:00
  mine. Mark's your freak boot fronts over here now, mister Costington, sir,
• 44:08
  I'm glad I had this chance to talk to you. I've been on
• 44:10
  the payroll here since May, and I'd really like to start working in ladies
• 44:15
  shoes. Not literally, of course. I couldn't walk very fast, though,
• 44:17
  I'd learn if that's what it takes. Never mind not Now, did
• 44:21
  you sell the Malibu s tasty set? I put aside that was for you,
• 44:27
  it was for my daughter. You. I won't mind dy no good
• 44:37
  back that toy. Gee, I'm sorry, sir, taken back that Dow
• 44:45
  would break a little girl's heart at Christmas even. I made a lot of
• 44:49
  mistakes in my life, but I would never do that. Well, then
• 44:52
  you're for but I, oh, you poor man? Fired on Christmas Eve?
• 45:08
  Why don't you have dinner with us tonight? Please? Santa? Well,
• 45:12
  let me check the bus schedule here, you get it, make a
• 45:15
  transfer there? Well, I could be there by two am. We'll give
• 45:20
  you a ride. That's swell. Could you swing by my ex wife's place.
• 45:23
  I want her to see me riding in a car. I didn't like
• 45:28
  this right because Lisa's standing there and at the end she's like, oh you
• 45:31
  poor man. I know they try and make it. She's not paying attention,
• 45:34
  but I'm like, you're there, my note. Maybe give the toy
• 45:37
  back, Lisa. Yeah, like you've realized he's been fired because you've got
• 45:40
  the toy and your first thought is, oh, poor guy, how haven't
• 45:45
  you just give the toy back? You know, on this mistake. This
• 45:49
  whole episode's finished. It's all problem solved. We just could killed Gill volume
• 45:53
  one, Yes, exactly. Do you think that Costington is a play on?
• 46:00
  Was his name bust Nass from Phantom Menace B But I think it's more
• 46:05
  just I mean, the vibe I get from Costington's is very and this ties
• 46:10
  him with the Christmas thing, very Miracle on thirty fourth Street, and they've
• 46:14
  got the the apartment stores, and certainly in old movies, like the original
• 46:19
  Miracle on thirty fourth Street, you know, they're usually run by big,
• 46:21
  blustery gentlemen. I love the nineties remake of that. It was really sweet.
• 46:27
  It was yeah, rich Richard Attenborough, Richard and Matilda and you watching
• 46:30
  it and when you watch you're like, is he the real Sander? It's
• 46:35
  one of my favorite stories. Miracle on thirty four I like the original black
• 46:37
  and white version, and I think the remake is actually pretty darn good.
• 46:40
  And the story just being there. It's just the spirit of Christmas. You
• 46:44
  know, everyone believes, and it's just like they never try and like dumb
• 46:46
  it down where they make you think, oh no, here's the real sand
• 46:49
  But it's like it makes you want to believe is he that? Yeah,
• 46:52
  it's a it's a great story. Plus the guy from the Practice, what's
• 46:54
  his name, Dylan mcdomal, yah, Dylan Dermot. He's great in the
• 46:57
  film as well. He's good. I'm a big fan of Dylan McDermott.
• 47:00
  Do you I have never watched The Practice. My mom used to love it.
• 47:00
  I've never watched it, and Nicole and I are looking for another like
• 47:04
  lawyer firm show is I'm gonna ask guy, is it worth watching the Practice?
• 47:07
  Yeah? Absolutely, I mean that's that's David E. Kelly who sort
• 47:09
  of specializes Bill did Allen mcbill. And the thing about the practice is Boston
• 47:15
  Legal as well. Well it it becomes Boston Legal because at the same Yeah,
• 47:19
  because it starts as the Practice, and then I think Dylan McDermott might
• 47:22
  have either had some contract negotiating. He's like, well, I'm not playing
• 47:24
  this lead anymore, and they're like, well, we need to bring in
• 47:28
  another character to sort of round things out, and they got James Spader to
• 47:32
  play sure, and he was such a hit. So it's the same business,
• 47:36
  same or it's the same story. It's it's sort of you know how
• 47:39
  we had the same vibe we had that talk about extended universes versus this is
• 47:44
  extended universe stuff. Because Alan Shaw joins the firm that the Bobby Donald was
• 47:50
  running del mcurmott del mcdmmott, and then he goes and works for the Boston
• 47:55
  firm or another firm kind of like the Chicago the Order and Shorts and Chicago
• 48:02
  p D or whatever it is. I've never seen any of those Chicago shows.
• 48:06
  I watched the Chicago because they did a crossover once and I was like,
• 48:08
  I don't really like this guy. And then we watched the first few
• 48:10
  episodes of the of the series and I was like, oh no, you
• 48:14
  won me over. And we haven't gone back to it because we only had
• 48:15
  the first season of something available on Amazon at the time or whatever. But
• 48:19
  Dick Wolf, Jesus Christ, that's the hardest working man, second only to
• 48:22
  Brendan Dan. If only I got paid Dick Wolf money. Every one of
• 48:28
  everyone needs a how many Chicago shows are there? Because like, Chicago made
• 48:30
  Chicago p D did a Chicago fight? But was he was he Dick Was
• 48:36
  it Dick Wolf Chicago Fight? I think that's a dig Wolf show. Maybe
• 48:38
  I like saying as one word, Dick Wolf. It's a great name.
• 48:42
  But as we said, so Lisa just just lets him get fired and so
• 48:45
  you're just staying there, then offer him a ride they offer him for dinner,
• 48:49
  the kind of airplace for dinner maybe or something. Anyway, they offer
• 48:52
  him a ride and he says, drive past my ex wife's so you can
• 48:53
  see me in a car. Gil is then invited to stay for Christmas night
• 48:58
  and they throw a Grandpa and I'm like, this is just like me.
• 49:00
  Yeah, I mean that your present is leaving. It's like, this is
• 49:04
  like not funny, this is not this is just not funny at all.
• 49:07
  The difference between Homer like Graba being outside and Hope like closing the blinds all
• 49:12
  at least that's funny to look at. This is just him saying go home.
• 49:15
  Your president is leaving. We don't want you here, but we're gonna
• 49:16
  have Gill. It's like, yeah, not buying it, not liking it,
• 49:21
  but it's Christmas morning now and Gil. This is where we get the
• 49:23
  side of Gill that we dreaded, with the side of Gill that we didn't
• 49:27
  need to see, where he's bought all his shit in and now I was
• 49:29
  just taking over the house. Yeah again now as I say, review what
• 49:32
  you've got and what should be. But I get the feeling it would have
• 49:36
  been like a funnier side gag if the stuff sort of gradually built up over
• 49:39
  time. Yeah, it was too much at once, wasn't it. Yeah,
• 49:43
  because then it was just gone the next scene. So I don't know,
• 49:46
  it didn't work out that well. But but the grumples outside, the
• 49:50
  grumples outside, just show the grumple. Don't have him talking. Yeah,
• 49:52
  it's stupid. Gill is now cooking eggs a Harald stats and then explain,
• 50:00
  Harold is I better did a little googling on Harold Staarson. He was a
• 50:07
  politician who unsuccessfully ran for the positions of mayor, governor, senator, and
• 50:12
  Republican Party presidential nominee multiple times. He occasionally was off in political office in
• 50:19
  the US during the twentieth century, but mostly he was known for unsuccessfully running
• 50:24
  for various public office positions. His final term was the governor of Minnesota in
• 50:30
  nineteen forty three, and he passed away in two thousand and one. Yeah,
• 50:32
  but all during the I don't know until up to his death, but
• 50:37
  certainly through I think it was up until the nineties at least he was like
• 50:40
  Harold Stasen. Weugh me I tell Clake Trey Parker, but I've just noticed
• 50:46
  the note he has yees So. A studio album by Argentine rock musician Charlie
• 50:51
  Garcia is named kill Gill, same as the title of because it's in fact
• 50:54
  the Spanish world play for kill Bill. I when I was putting together the
• 51:00
  say putting together, when I was looking for images for the new names and
• 51:04
  for the mailbag for this for this episode, typed in kill Gil went to
• 51:08
  images and a whole lot of these things came up, like what al says,
• 51:14
  kill Girl? Simpsons? You have to put Simpsons sometimes sometimes you do,
• 51:17
  Yeah, hey, who wants some eggs? Ala Herald's station? They're
• 51:25
  always running. Do you really understand what that means? Have you ever laughed
• 51:36
  at Jake when you didn't get it and you're like, please don't ask me
• 51:37
  if I know ye Sometimes you're like you know this and you're just like,
• 51:40
  oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like because then they look at you.
• 51:43
  Fine, You're like, don't ask any further questions. We're gonna have
• 51:47
  an unspoken agreement to us. I'm gonna laugh at your esoteric gag. You're
• 51:52
  not gonna call me on whether or not I fully get it. Okay,
• 51:55
  you feel smart, and I've given you a little validation. Let's just leave
• 52:00
  it at that. But now we get Marge says it, you know a
• 52:02
  bit of Christian charity poet start and I like that. Play there, play
• 52:07
  it. Then Marge says she'll she'll throw them out, and a lot of
• 52:09
  markets that don't work. When he's a parent of kids, you find a
• 52:13
  lot of these things around the house because you buy like a pack of texts
• 52:15
  and they use a text up, throw the lid away, and it's like,
• 52:17
  how many fucking texters are in this house that don't work? I've found
• 52:22
  myself of late, I've got like two coffee mugs on my on my desk
• 52:28
  full of pens. Yeah, and these pen has been sitting there for a
• 52:30
  very long time. But having a source of pens at your disposal is so
• 52:34
  if you're like a king, oh yeah, but they're always hard to find.
• 52:37
  So I think it was side for it a bits like I can't borrow
• 52:38
  a pen. You always embarrassed to ask for a pen. It's like there's
• 52:40
  more pens than people in this world, but we can never find a pen.
• 52:44
  Just having a box of pens out, it's just like oh yes,
• 52:45
  But lately I'm like, oh, oh, this pen's right, I'm gonna
• 52:47
  need a new pen. Time to grab one from my mug of many pens.
• 52:51
  It's dry. This is really dry. This was that like Margaret Mary
• 52:55
  Christmas Present, have a pin, have a big but actually the big classic
• 53:05
  fine that I used to take my notes for this episode was like a little
• 53:07
  dream listen a Gill. I sort of fucking you know, get be on
• 53:14
  your way by now. Really you gotta put me out on Christmas Day?
• 53:22
  Well, that's all right, I can go down to the men's shelter.
• 53:24
  I just hope that weird priest with the ruddy I ain't surf and soup because
• 53:29
  they wait, you don't have a place to live. You're the boom.
• 53:35
  I guess you don't have to leave till the holiday's over. Here's the boom
• 53:42
  been lowered, No Joe. Then he just throws the guilt chip, and
• 53:50
  I was like, oh, I don't want this guy anymore. No,
• 53:53
  No, I mean you're gonna throw me on Christmas Day? Okay, Well,
• 53:57
  I guess I'm just gonna have to go back to where I came from.
• 53:59
  Say, yeah, you kind of should. Yeah, I mean we've
• 54:01
  never seen him sort of weaponizing his uselessness. That's it before, and for
• 54:07
  him to do that this time around, it's like, oh wait a minute,
• 54:09
  Yeah, you are your own worst enemy. You kind of suck.
• 54:12
  We've seen him plead for oh please, I need this, I need this,
• 54:14
  but not the Oh well, okay, if you throw poor old Gill
• 54:16
  out, then I guess I'll have to go back to where I was before.
• 54:20
  Yeah, not cool. He's still there. On New Year's Day,
• 54:23
  he's got a New Year's resolution to move from the couch to the chair because
• 54:27
  he expecting a call from his boss at chap Pot Realty in Scottsdale. He
• 54:30
  wants to take it. He thinks they're going to ask him to take the
• 54:31
  office. Now, I did appreciate how you just it's meant to be.
• 54:35
  Oh yeah, sure. Gill's like, that's ever gonna happen, And that's
• 54:37
  the way they get him out of the house. I get the thing.
• 54:38
  That would have been better if they'd sort of done the rule of threes with
• 54:42
  it as well, or just you could have had a few good ongoing gags
• 54:45
  and the like Homer being scared of the Grumble and Scottsdale being the holy Grail
• 54:49
  for for Gill and you know he mentioned maybe just once or twice more throughout
• 54:53
  things like just waiting on that call from Scott's. Maybe they do mention it
• 54:55
  doing this. I don't know, but he I think because the phone rings
• 55:00
  a little bit later and it's his foot doctor that's right, yeah, and
• 55:02
  he says that's Godsdale. Yeah, but he plays up there. I don't
• 55:06
  played up, but the bron car is here, so March was like,
• 55:07
  I can't throw him out now. Then we get the transition, so it's
• 55:09
  Martin Luther King Day. A weird cut did you say? The weird editing
• 55:13
  here? So it's almost like they had the shot from like a wide shot
• 55:17
  of Gil sitting on the chair reading the paper, and then it didn't like
• 55:21
  zoom in on the paper, but the headline said Martin Luther King Day Today.
• 55:23
  We celebrate him, so we don't write. But it was just like
• 55:27
  they got the picture and then realized, oh, we'd have a close up
• 55:30
  and have just like cropped it because the quality of that steal was so blurry,
• 55:34
  that's right. Yeah. I was wondering, Yeah, it's like something's
• 55:37
  not writing. My brain clearly knew, yeah, and I couldn't quite figure
• 55:39
  out what it was and said it. Yeah, so it's just the still
• 55:42
  shot of the like the chopped the cropped version of that, of that wide
• 55:45
  shot. It's just on the screen for about three or four seconds. He's
• 55:46
  still need We have to let him stay. It's what doctor King would want
• 55:52
  us to do. Oh, that's it. We're changing doctors. Please just
• 55:54
  a few more days, March. Admit it. You just can't say no
• 56:00
  to anyone. That's why you have three kids. It's true. I do
• 56:05
  have trouble saying no. It all started when I was seven. Mardorie,
• 56:09
  we need you to hide our cigarettes in your dollhouse, No, Lorena,
• 56:22
  anybody. And that's why I have trouble saying no to people. Even Gil
• 56:32
  Merge, I have no idea what you were just thinking about. Why would
• 56:37
  you think I did? Hmmm, they've done this before this, Jake Bett,
• 56:44
  Why did you think I could? And it's like, oh I didn't.
• 56:46
  I didn't recall having having heard or saying that before about Yeah, well,
• 56:51
  so basically it's not that as you said before. They explained the joke.
• 56:53
  He well, usually it's like home is visioning something. Everyone's sort of
• 56:57
  sitting there going, yeah, is she okay? That's right. Yeah,
• 57:00
  saying that, I'm almost certain we've had a moment where someone's gone, Why
• 57:05
  did you think I could see that you're thinking that, you're not saying that,
• 57:07
  you're not saying it. Yeah, but now we're at MOS and home.
• 57:09
  It's sad he misses UPN now UPN TV station, right. I only
• 57:14
  know this because it used to have the wrestling on it. I think it
• 57:15
  was smacked down back in the nineties, early two thousand. But asked Homer
• 57:19
  if he misses the UPN network now. Since The Simpsons is a series produced
• 57:22
  by Fox now Disney, Fox only owned a few UPN stations. The episode
• 57:25
  aired just over three months after the network left the air. For some reason,
• 57:30
  I would think I was confusing the UPN with the ups which is a
• 57:32
  delivery service again unified theory or four finger discount, because we were talking about
• 57:37
  delivery services before. Yes, but UPN was the TV station he's referencing here.
• 57:42
  But he's annoyed about that as well as Gill and Carl says, as
• 57:44
  you were saying earlier, you have to allow Mars to throw him out to
• 57:46
  assert herself. I thought she'd never be able to. And I'm like it's
• 57:49
  a bit much for us to just because so she can't throw it, Gill,
• 57:52
  she'll never be able to assert herself. Like you said, it's just
• 57:54
  covering the fact that it's like, why doesn't have to throw them out?
• 57:58
  I've seen you throw at Grandpa about five minutes, even Lisa or a bug.
• 58:01
  Why can't all of them just go out? You know, It's just
• 58:05
  it's a really silly story when you think about it, isn't it. Yeah.
• 58:07
  I mean it's like it's a good concept there, but when you think
• 58:12
  about the execution of it, it just doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
• 58:14
  them just being too nice to for eleven months. Yeah, that's the thing
• 58:19
  too. It was just over the holiday season when people are generally generous.
• 58:23
  Yeah, yeah, and everyone's sort of using various means to try and get
• 58:27
  him out of the house, as opposed to just like, oh no,
• 58:30
  he lives here now man, not buying it, not feeling it. I've
• 58:35
  kind of experienced this with a with a friend of mine who needed a place
• 58:38
  to say because he just wasn't going well. I'm just back when I was
• 58:40
  living with my parents, so we would have been maybe nineteen twenty at the
• 58:44
  time, and I said, I you can say, to that place for
• 58:45
  a week or two, just sort of get yourself back in your feet,
• 58:49
  sort of out with your parents, blah blah blah. And then he was
• 58:51
  there for like a year. Oh my god. I look back now and
• 58:52
  just like my parents were saints. They never once asked for any money from
• 58:57
  him. They fed him, they washed his clothes. He stay there for
• 59:00
  free for a year. I'm like, no, wonder all my friends love
• 59:02
  my parents, say my sister. My sister's friends have always said that they've
• 59:06
  always seen my mom as like their mum because she just welcomes everybody in.
• 59:09
  You know. She's like, what is his friend doing now? I haven't
• 59:13
  spoken to him for a long time. He's Gil, he got what he
• 59:15
  wanted and he was out of here, a real estate Kingdin It's we now
• 59:23
  have another transition. February second Grand Hole Day. I thought you would have
• 59:27
  liked that Valentine's Day and Marge has rented that negligee that home of likes the
• 59:31
  legs going forever, rented the necklace. Yeah, but then gill enters eating
• 59:36
  her chocolates and I was like, oh man, this guy's shit. I
• 59:39
  don't know, wasn't a fan. Marge was bad to kick him out,
• 59:43
  and then the phone rings and he thinks it's the Scottsdale Boss, but it's
• 59:45
  the foot Doctor. I can't tell him that. And then Homer shows off
• 59:47
  the butcher shop, which was funny, and it's actually not that he can't
• 59:52
  close it because he's put on a ton of weight since he bought it.
• 59:54
  Now it's February fifteenth, Susan B. Anthony Day, seventeenth World Human Spirit
• 59:58
  Day. I don't know all these real things or they just thought they were
• 1:00:01
  funny, but half armed funny of them aren't funny. March fourth, Old
• 1:00:07
  Inauguration Day, seventeenth Sir Patrick's Day. He's all singing songs downstairs of all
• 1:00:10
  the losers of Springfield. Crazy cat Lady Kirk just looks like a bum.
• 1:00:15
  And Elep and Elepricorn who then fights fights the dog and dances on his head
• 1:00:21
  and a few seconds to film. I'm guessing, yeah, weird. April
• 1:00:24
  twenty eighth is Arbor Day. May eighth is v e Day. May ninth
• 1:00:29
  is James L. Brooks Birthday. At least that's funny. July third,
• 1:00:32
  Kind Appreciation Day, twenty fourth is Cousin's Day. July twenty seventh, Jerry
• 1:00:37
  Van Dyke's birthday in Australia. So's his birthday July twenty sixth, and I
• 1:00:40
  guess let's look that up. I don't want to cut the September eighth,
• 1:00:45
  it's International Literacy Day, and we're out at school and Gil stolen the kids
• 1:00:50
  lunches, and I'm like, why are you making these guys? So it's
• 1:00:53
  impossible to like Gil at this point, right, He's stolen the kids lunches,
• 1:00:58
  what the fuck? And he's given old nicotine patches, which he then
• 1:01:02
  gives in Nelson because he's trying to steal his lunch money, and he passes
• 1:01:05
  out. Then another transitions at tab A twenty fourth National Good Neighbor's Day.
• 1:01:08
  I thought Flanner should have been on the picture for that. Yeah, ninth
• 1:01:12
  Columbus Day, thirteenth, World Egg Day, twenty first Reptile Awareness Day,
• 1:01:16
  November thirteenth, Gingerbread House Day, and then November twenty fourth, the day
• 1:01:20
  after Thanksgiving them. We really actually could look these up. I don't know
• 1:01:23
  if we want to do it now, but I guess right, I mean,
• 1:01:25
  there are so many let's look up Reptile Awareness Day. I'm just going
• 1:01:29
  to type that and see if that comes up with a date. Reptyle Awareness
• 1:01:31
  Day. October twenty first, twenty fifty. Okay, so what is the
• 1:01:35
  thing? Yeah? Maybe because there are so many days, it's kind of
• 1:01:37
  like, hey, guess what today is such and such to day. I
• 1:01:39
  know it sounds weird, but it actually is. It's on the calendar.
• 1:01:43
  World Egg Day is a thing. Yeah, these apparently are all real.
• 1:01:45
  Our National Good Neighbor Day is September twentyeighth. These are I say that Taber
• 1:01:49
  twenty fourth in episode September twenty eighth. Apparently, thanks they're going to have
• 1:01:52
  International Women's So I guess that is that Joe been that. How ridiculous are
• 1:01:57
  these that actually days? I guess yeah. I think they thought it was
• 1:02:00
  funny that it would be like, there are some ridiculous holidays. We need
• 1:02:04
  to show the passing of time. How about we double down on the gag
• 1:02:07
  and, you know, have the most ridiculous holidays? She show the passing
• 1:02:09
  of time. Marge's raking LEAs now though, because it's the death Thanksgiving and
• 1:02:15
  eleven months he's been there for now, She's still frustrated. Though he's used
• 1:02:19
  to her leg raise it a pill carrots, and then ned thanks her for
• 1:02:22
  the Christmas card, but she hasn't done a Christmas card yet, and turns
• 1:02:24
  out he's photoshoped himself over the top of the family and she gives me a
• 1:02:28
  photoshopping freak and she says that's enough. Now she's going to go scream no,
• 1:02:30
  and I'm just like that. That's probably. Would you like, how
• 1:02:32
  pissed off would you be if someone made the family Christmas card and put them
• 1:02:36
  stuff on it and didn't tell you they're doing it? Oh? Quiet?
• 1:02:37
  Did the davis Has have a Christmas card? Nah? I thought Margaret Mary
• 1:02:42
  would have been all about it, just the point you told of me.
• 1:02:43
  Oh no, no, no, no, But we have American relatives who
• 1:02:46
  do that. American relatives. Yeah, yeah, My Margaret Mary has a
• 1:02:52
  sister, Denise. Yeah, married an American gentleman named Wallace, and they
• 1:02:57
  have two lovely kids, well kids, they're older than me, so they
• 1:03:00
  are full grown adults. But they're really really nice people. Uh. And
• 1:03:07
  my niece Orman, No, my cousin Carolyn lives in Austin, Texas.
• 1:03:12
  Got a lot of guns, apparently, my nephew Rory went over to visit
• 1:03:17
  like we were at shooting. It was fantastic. But now Karen is fantastic
• 1:03:22
  and she every year will send a photo of her, her husband and their
• 1:03:28
  son. You know, they've sort of got the Christmas. Christmas sweater is
• 1:03:31
  not over the top, but it's like, no, this is Christmas y
• 1:03:35
  and yeah, an actual card, an actual card in the mail. Yeah,
• 1:03:38
  well most people just like emails now, yeah, no, we get
• 1:03:43
  it like in February. Uh, but yeah, I notice like it's been
• 1:03:47
  a great year for us. And here's what's here's the update. Here's the
• 1:03:51
  update essentially, like this is is very American and also very nice. She
• 1:03:55
  goes to say no to girl, but he's now gone. He's he's actually
• 1:03:58
  been picked up for a gee in Scott's. That's right. I just found
• 1:04:01
  my a dumption and I like it. Marge Simpson is gonna say no,
• 1:04:08
  gil Gil gil Gil's gone back to Scottsdale. Problems of tender storry? Do
• 1:04:15
  we have ten CAGs for dinner? Gil's gone? But I have a no
• 1:04:17
  inside me that has to come out. Hey Mark, do you want a
• 1:04:20
  thousand dollars? No? I mean yes, you're late, don't worry.
• 1:04:28
  I make six of those a year? What the fuck was? Yeah?
• 1:04:33
  Yeah, don't get it, don't like it. I make six of these
• 1:04:38
  a year? Really, okay, so you tell me that I only makes
• 1:04:41
  six thousand dollars a year. But they have lived in this house. They
• 1:04:45
  can afford to go to school and feed and eat and come on, this
• 1:04:50
  was the home in this episode was horrendous. Was not great, but it
• 1:04:56
  isn't necessarily character just the writing of home it was just horrendous. I don't
• 1:05:00
  know when it came back from commercial March. She says she needs this otherwise
• 1:05:02
  she will never be able to say no. I'm like, what the fuck
• 1:05:06
  is this story? I kind of understand it to some degree. I mean,
• 1:05:10
  I think everyone in substage their life has had a niggling thing where it's
• 1:05:13
  kind of like I needed to tell that person how I feel about them,
• 1:05:16
  but not the whole. I'll never be able to say no ever. If
• 1:05:18
  I don't say no to Gil. Well, they need Yeah, they needed
• 1:05:23
  to flesh that out a little bit more then, but Lisa's not sure what
• 1:05:27
  she can do much we're gonna do. When to go to Scottsdale and they
• 1:05:30
  bring up the Triple Tree resort here, which is a play on apparently Hilton
• 1:05:31
  resorts have double tree resorts. I did not know this. Me have look
• 1:05:35
  here. Yeah, so I'm asked that they can stay at a triple tree
• 1:05:39
  resort. This is a reference to the double Tree brand of Hilton Hotels.
• 1:05:42
  Wow, okay, apparently they're not a fan of Hilton Hotels. I guess
• 1:05:45
  in two thousand and six everyone was all about hating Paris Hilton, right,
• 1:05:47
  I imagine, so, yes, as they are in twenty twenty two.
• 1:05:51
  Oh, hating on her baby, we're in twenty twenty three hours. Yeah,
• 1:05:55
  yeah, but hating on her baby. I was like, guys,
• 1:05:57
  I get those Paris Hilton, but don't make fun of the baby. I'll
• 1:06:02
  ask these active seniors if they know Gil. I'll have you know. I'm
• 1:06:05
  thirty two. There he is. Gunderson Kills a big shot, and I
• 1:06:25
  think he and I went share to show. I don't care how successful Gill
• 1:06:30
  is. He's still a mooch and I need to tell him. I'm sure
• 1:06:33
  we knew it was Gunissan with Ah. It's just because this was still like
• 1:06:36
  eighteen years ago. He just assumed, or how long ago was this?
• 1:06:39
  Two thousand and six. That's eighteen years seventeen year ago, seventy years Yeah,
• 1:06:42
  seventeen years ago. Yeah, full a discat your home of maths.
• 1:06:46
  But it's revealed here. His last name is Gunderson. He's on the billboard.
• 1:06:49
  He's number one in Scottsdale and now hums and love and to think I
• 1:06:53
  want you here to shower with him in Margins. I don't care. I
• 1:06:55
  still want to say no to him. Are going to put him in his
• 1:06:57
  place. So they arrive one hundred and seventeen degrees outside. So Homer reminds
• 1:07:00
  Santas sort of helper who's been locked in the car with the windows up,
• 1:07:02
  that this water bowl under the seat or something. I just had a what
• 1:07:06
  I think is not a bad idea for March to confront Gil. He's like
• 1:07:14
  trying to sell a house at the actual house. Yeah, and they see
• 1:07:17
  him, like they see through a window, like he's lying on a couch
• 1:07:20
  or something, and they think he's moochie. If someone else, I've got
• 1:07:24
  to go tell him off, and you know, sort of you know,
• 1:07:26
  word up these these people who live in this house. And it turns out
• 1:07:30
  that he's like, oh, this couch is how comfortable and she's like,
• 1:07:35
  he's a moocher and he did this and this and this, and they're like,
• 1:07:38
  well, we were going to buy this house for this amount of money,
• 1:07:40
  but now we're not, you know, and I'm going to tell my
• 1:07:42
  uncle, the owner of the real estate company. And that's how Gill loses
• 1:07:45
  his job. Rather than calling out in front of all these other people,
• 1:07:47
  the whole calling him out in front of everybody and just being fire for I
• 1:07:50
  was like, wait, why is he if he's number one? Yeah,
• 1:07:54
  I think he could like he was number one, wasn't he? Yeah he
• 1:07:57
  was. He was the alpha dog in the in the sales room and he's
• 1:08:00
  been yelled at by a woman. Now he's getting fired. Well the peck
• 1:08:03
  smelled weakness, they did. But he gives a great speech. You know.
• 1:08:08
  It's something about the comission you make. It's the smile on their faces
• 1:08:10
  knowing they own the land. Freeing clear. He's actually a pretty good He's
• 1:08:14
  not bad at his gig. And it's funny because you know, the character
• 1:08:16
  that is based on from Glengarry glen Ross is actually not bad at his job.
• 1:08:19
  They do show in the film was like you get him in a room
• 1:08:23
  and he's actually pretty good. But you know, some people just don't want
• 1:08:27
  to buy. I do like the line of he's as pathetic as us.
• 1:08:30
  I did like Gil still pretty confident. He has watch me change it from
• 1:08:34
  furiust to curious because I like trying. Yes, the only house I'm interested
• 1:08:40
  in is my own, which you defiled for eleven hellish months. But now
• 1:08:45
  I've wanted to say no. Not the emotion, not of manipulation and a
• 1:08:49
  big fan note of the King's Bridge School district. Oh come on, and
• 1:08:56
  you can't say no to old Gilly. He's as pathetic as we are.
• 1:09:06
  I put you in charge of this office because I thought you could tame this
• 1:09:10
  town you food. And then it comes to him, I'm assuming they've gone
• 1:09:16
  into a house that Gill has recently sold. I'm guessing that, But wouldn't
• 1:09:21
  you have had a house in Scottsdale. It almost feels like, because because
• 1:09:26
  the letterbox says the Simpsons, we've got to make it up to Gill,
• 1:09:28
  let's buy a house in Scottsdale. I don't even know. And then it's
• 1:09:32
  backed up with the Grumple family arriving and them singing the singing the Stummer song
• 1:09:35
  about Grumpel Grumple Grew. This episode has ended. Yeah, uh, the
• 1:09:42
  worst Christmas episode of The Simpsons to date by a long margin. And I
• 1:09:45
  don't I dare I say not even a Christmas episode Christmas in name only?
• 1:09:49
  What do we learn, Bomber? What did you learn from the episode of
• 1:09:53
  Davis that when Sander says he's making presents, he's making presents. Send We're
• 1:09:58
  taking a few kids of the pool? The South Park was make few kids
• 1:10:00
  off at the pool? Yeah? What's taking the Browns to the super Bowl?
• 1:10:03
  Giving a given birth to a Brown baby boy or something? I don't
• 1:10:06
  know it. It was full one. But I learned you know what I
• 1:10:11
  didn't learn? Actually, I didn't learn what the Grumple actually is. Is
• 1:10:14
  he real or is he not? Because it was never confirmed at the end
• 1:10:15
  of this episode. I guess we're supposed to believe he's real because he's got
• 1:10:18
  a family. Yeah, I mean, this is the first time the Grumple
• 1:10:21
  is a piecause I feel like, I think, was it really Grumple Simpsons?
• 1:10:26
  Maybe it's just I've seen him in various things. Also known as grumpy
• 1:10:29
  Grew, his first appearance was in this episode. Yeah, again, I
• 1:10:32
  would have loved it. Like you know, he's of course the heel of
• 1:10:36
  the ice Capades or whatever, and he's got a bunch of kids yelling him
• 1:10:40
  and go boo Grumple or whatever, and home is the only one who the
• 1:10:44
  only adult who boos him, and that really pisses off the Grumple. And
• 1:10:45
  that's why he's got his on his revenge trip. Yeah, because it was
• 1:10:49
  never explained why. I guess because Homer goes out there and tries to slitty
• 1:10:54
  straight with his skate. Yeah, but I don't know. Ridiculousness could have
• 1:10:58
  been fixed. Call your hands down there on. From miss day forward,
• 1:11:01
  your names will be It is time for the Guy Davis New Name Championship for
• 1:11:05
  season eighteen. The current leaderboard stands at this in first position, we have
• 1:11:10
  Luke McKay on ten points, Kyle muldoon on eighteen, second, and in
• 1:11:13
  third position Philip Jay Hawkins, who was the first person to ever have a
• 1:11:16
  three peat on seven points. Take it away. May I just say a
• 1:11:21
  lot of good new names this time around. This was a tough call,
• 1:11:27
  and of course I don't know who gave us these names. Dando just gives
• 1:11:30
  me the list of the names. None of the actual people who suggested these
• 1:11:33
  names, but I was very impressed with the majority of our entries. That
• 1:11:39
  said, one point goes to the most guonderful time of the year. That
• 1:11:45
  is Jack McFadden, which is his first time on the leaderboard this year.
• 1:11:48
  So what I'm Jack, You're now going to go into at least the wild
• 1:11:50
  card draw unless you get a few threes in the back half of this season.
• 1:11:54
  Nice work, action McFadden. Two points for mooch ado about nothing like
• 1:12:00
  that as well. Very clever that one. Oh god ooh. That puts
• 1:12:03
  Kyle now up to ten points equal first with Luke McKay. Well done,
• 1:12:06
  Kyle, the races on the races, but three points goes to gunderstuck.
• 1:12:15
  Oh boy, oh boy. You know what you've done here? What have
• 1:12:17
  I done? You have now made it a three way tie in first position
• 1:12:20
  on ten points. It's Philip jay Hawks there with a three point, So
• 1:12:25
  Luke McKay, Philip j Hawks and Cayle Maldon all on ten points in first
• 1:12:28
  position. And as I said, Fog, this is absolutely blind. I
• 1:12:31
  don't know who's giving us these names, but we have created a three way
• 1:12:36
  race. Wow, you watch them. Just send through like twenty names each
• 1:12:40
  next week. Oh brilliant, Oh good work everybody, Yes, well done.
• 1:12:44
  So first position is a three way tie. If you want to be
• 1:12:46
  a part of the Guy This New Name Championship, just going to be a
• 1:12:48
  supporter of ours on Petrie On all right, male bad questions here, Ben
• 1:12:57
  Lyons says to us, have you ever had a guest and longer than intended?
• 1:13:00
  If so, how did you get rid of them? Or how would
• 1:13:01
  you if you, how would you if you had to do that? Well,
• 1:13:04
  I spoke about my friend. I won't say his name name agame with
• 1:13:08
  j I'll say that Jav're listening Dano's coming over sleep on any can I know?
• 1:13:15
  Are you usually the person staying over? But are you he's actually an
• 1:13:19
  item? Or do you just come over and just like we can't get this
• 1:13:23
  guy to go away? But he cooks a mean burrito? Yeah, true,
• 1:13:28
  he does the dishes. Because I remember, we stick with the new
• 1:13:31
  episode of not he has Netflix and stand to lose the moment's stand. Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  we are indeed an item. Just confirmingously she's from Vancouver. M No.
• 1:13:46
  I mean I am not someone who stays all that long and I definitely
• 1:13:50
  don't have people over to my house. How often do you have people at
• 1:13:54
  your house? Not often? Not often? Not often? No, No,
• 1:13:57
  I mean the house isn't a mess or a scrace or anything like that.
• 1:14:00
  But at the same time, it's not really sort of it's not set
• 1:14:02
  up in a way it's conduced for having a lot of people over. It's
• 1:14:06
  it's not really open plan. It's rooms. It's got a lot of walls.
• 1:14:11
  The or the Nazi membiy probably wouldn't get in. Well, that's true.
• 1:14:14
  Yeah, I mean I've got to, you know, take all the
• 1:14:17
  pawn off the walls and parted in the cupboard. Why do you have that
• 1:14:20
  super Bowl in the living room? Yeah? For your core? Yeah,
• 1:14:24
  trying to build your your core. But having said that, I mean,
• 1:14:29
  as I mentioned, the Lovely Lou and I were in California. We stayed
• 1:14:31
  with her friend Claire for like two weeks and she must be so sick of
• 1:14:34
  us, but but she really enjoyed having us over. Lovely person Claire was
• 1:14:39
  fantastic. Jet Gordon says, has this episode affected you in your core like
• 1:14:44
  it did me? Since its release, I regularly referred to an unhappy person
• 1:14:46
  as grumpy grumpo League grew h. I think it affected us in our cores,
• 1:14:53
  and like Matt sick to, I thought he was referring to there.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah, I know because I can't recall actually seen this episode when it first
• 1:15:00
  air. I think it is the first time I actually watched it might be
• 1:15:01
  the same for me, actually so and I think Dan and I both both
• 1:15:04
  walked away from it feeling like we're walking away from this. Glenn Gome says,
• 1:15:09
  I enjoy the Christmas intro? What theme would you like? I can
• 1:15:12
  say what theme would do to the christ to the intro because he's maybe asking
• 1:15:15
  there how drop him to change what theme? Oh? Okay, so we've
• 1:15:17
  had Halloween's on a Christmas ones? What else could you really do? I
• 1:15:21
  did like that when Bart was fat that time, even though it wasn't changing
• 1:15:24
  the theme, it was just changing the fact that he was overweight. I
• 1:15:27
  would mind of Valentine's Day one that was kind of romantic, Valentine's Easter Eggs
• 1:15:31
  Eastern one. But we don't know any other big sort of holidays are they?
• 1:15:38
  Well, thanks to him, but we didn't really celebrate that here.
• 1:15:40
  But yeah, I'm not too sure. Katie g says, a celebrity you'd
• 1:15:43
  think would be the most annoying to stay at your house. I'm going to
• 1:15:46
  say Andy Dick, Yeah, that's a good one. Or Tom Green.
• 1:15:55
  I know Tom Green slides straighten himself out now, but like early two thousands,
• 1:15:58
  Tom Green, I feel like you'd be like someone just stop trying to
• 1:16:00
  get attention. Yeah, stop riffing. Yeah, no wild pranksters, yeah,
• 1:16:04
  put my rat down, stop putting it on your tongue. You know,
• 1:16:10
  those are both very good answers. Yeah. I think anyone who sort
• 1:16:13
  of prizes themselves on being a rifster or a prankster who's a modern celebrity that
• 1:16:15
  shits you that you're just like, oh, just fuck off. Every time
• 1:16:17
  you see them on TV. This is terrible because they seem like a fairly
• 1:16:23
  good person in a lot of ways, but based on the way they're coming
• 1:16:27
  across on the screen lately, probably Ryan Reynolds, Yeah, just everything is
• 1:16:31
  kind of all smam all the time. It's always smarm, isn't it.
• 1:16:35
  Yeah? Yeah, I mean he's doing very well for himself, but you're
• 1:16:40
  right, he does seem like a lovely person, but just his stick can
• 1:16:43
  be grating at times. Yeah, So if I had to you know,
• 1:16:46
  put up with the Ryan Reynolds that you see in say the movie Red Notice
• 1:16:51
  or his cameo and Hobson Shaw be like, go away, Ryan Renolds,
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  go back to Canada. Harrison McClure, Do you guys think you'd make a
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  good mol sound? It's actually something I fancy doing when I'm tired. That's
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  another thing. Actually we have fun. Would that be I could do it
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  for a day? Maybe? Yeah? And well, depending on how it
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  felt the end of the day. It's like, I'll see you tomorrow.
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  You'll never see me again? Money, what's this wet patch of my knee?
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  Andrew Swan, were you disappointed this episode wasn't actually a Kill Bill parody?
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  I remember as a team being so disappointed. I will agree there was
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  not even a reference to Kill Bill in this There was not. I mean,
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  I thought it would have suited it because this episode, but like it
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  kind of it kind of suits I guess because you do want to kill Gill.
• 1:17:35
  But that's that's the only thing. Yeah, and kill Bill was big
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  at the time, but one and two both came out in two thousand and
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  three. Right did they pull a matrix? Did he pull a matrix?
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  I thought it was a year apart. Wasn't it about a year apart?
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  Maybe that's what you're confusing with before with matrix when to kill Bill? Because
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  volume one was two thousand and three, Volume two to two thousand and four.
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  Yeah, and a couple more questions here. I've got a lot of
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  questions. It seems that people would just like question heavy this is do we
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  have one from Well? The next one is from Andrew JP. Guy always
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  looks nervous when Andrew JP doesn't like, have we lost him? We lose
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  Andrew JP? Shop He says, if you could write a Simpsons Disney short
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  about Gill, what would your idea be? That's a good question. He's
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  normally, you know, hitting us with the winners. I made a JP
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  Gill short off the top of my head. Well, you wouldn't do it.
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  Glen Garry, Glen Ross Parish, that's what that's his stick. No,
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  and I know that we talked about Jimmy Stewart earlier. I mean,
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  and yeah, Christmas time you think of it. It's a wonderful life was
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  one of one of the new names. Woul Probably it's a gunderful life for
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  this one. But that would be good. You know, having sort of
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  like, oh, jeez, it would be better if something. Now I'm
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  doing the Jimmy Stewart and badly like, ah, what it would be better
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  if I have never been born? And then I don't know, you cut
• 1:18:47
  back and go to all the Gill stuff that you've had throughout the seasons and
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  maybe just riff on those a little bit. It's like, oh, well,
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  you know, we saw Gill that time, but then this happened,
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  and it's set up something bad that happened as a result, or you know,
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  things were worse as a result because we didn't get to make fun of
• 1:19:04
  Gil. But I like Gil's attitude of like never give up. Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  There was something in this episode where he said something like long a's got a
• 1:19:11
  cup of coffee in it, tomorrow in the calendar. I'm like, that's
• 1:19:13
  a good motto to live by. It It really is, actually, and
• 1:19:15
  you could round out your Disney short with that. It's like, you know,
• 1:19:16
  he's got his cup of coffee and tomorrow's another day. Yeah, you
• 1:19:19
  know, and then you get the egg on his face or something like that.
• 1:19:23
  But I do think that could actually work. Yeah, good question,
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  Andrew don Well, I don't want to hear from it? Eric, what
• 1:19:28
  about good answer? Gay? Eric looked ring up. It took me twice
• 1:19:32
  to get through this episode. I had to turn it off after home as
• 1:19:34
  Homer lockx Sanders or to help it in the car in the in the heat.
• 1:19:39
  Second play through, I was surprised and disappointed by the ending. I
• 1:19:41
  guess March had to buy a house to save Gil's job. Yeah, I
• 1:19:44
  mean, I guess that's what we were thinking it was. Why is there
• 1:19:46
  a Simpsons had since Scots Downe Now? Yeah, it's so confusing it is.
• 1:19:50
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