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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff, Josh, Chuck. Cheerry's
- 0:07Speaker 1: sitting in for day, So this is short stuff. Chuck.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Are you cracking your
- 0:15Speaker 1: knuckles right now?
- 0:16Speaker 2: I am. Did you hear that?
- 0:17Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't like a like a foldy effect.
- 0:21Speaker 2: No, I was cracking my knuckles. I'm a knuckle cracker.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I don't do it. I did it a lot when
- 0:25Speaker 2: I was a kid, but I still do it some.
- 0:30Speaker 1: This is what my knuckles sound like when I crack them.
- 0:39Speaker 1: That's it the Yeah, I can't do it again because
- 0:44Speaker 1: I have to wait twenty to thirty minutes for the
- 0:46Speaker 1: airbus to come back and cavitate once more.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll tell everybody what's going on here. What I know.
- 0:52Speaker 2: There was a lot of you know, when you're young,
- 0:54Speaker 2: everyone was like, it'll give you arthritis, and it's your
- 0:58Speaker 2: your bones grinding together, and that's what racking your knuckles
- 1:00Speaker 2: as and that can't be good for you.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Yes, if your bones ground together, you would not be
- 1:05Speaker 1: able to think of anything else but your bones grinding together,
- 1:08Speaker 1: because you would be in so much pain that you
- 1:12Speaker 1: would know your bones are grinding together. That's not what
- 1:14Speaker 1: cracking your knuckles is it turns out instead, it has
- 1:18Speaker 1: everything to do with the space and the area around
- 1:21Speaker 1: where your bones come together. Your bones don't actually come.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Together, that's right, where there's a joint that is where
- 1:28Speaker 2: two bones meet, but they're separate and they're held together
- 1:31Speaker 2: by ligaments and connected tissues and all that stuff. But
- 1:35Speaker 2: there's also some a very other key ingredient in there.
- 1:39Speaker 2: It's called synovial fluid. It's a thick, clear liquid that
- 1:43Speaker 2: kind of encases that area, right.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it's thick, it tastes just like orange crush CRUs surprisingly.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And when you pop your knuckle, what you're doing is
- 1:54Speaker 1: stretching or bending the ligaments and connective tissues and the
- 1:59Speaker 1: cyanoval fluid there too. Right. So when you do that,
- 2:02Speaker 1: that capsule is what it's called the connective tissue capsule
- 2:05Speaker 1: that includes the synovial fluid. It gets stretched, which increases
- 2:09Speaker 1: its volume, and then suddenly the pressure inside the capsule
- 2:14Speaker 1: in that synovial fluid it goes down. It decreases in pressure,
- 2:18Speaker 1: which means that all these gases that used to just
- 2:21Speaker 1: be part of the solution now are part of the problem.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I mean now turn into bubbles.
- 2:26Speaker 2: That's right. So they become you know, they form those bubbles,
- 2:31Speaker 2: and if you stretch that joint far enough, like you know,
- 2:34Speaker 2: trying to crack your knuckles, the pressure in the capsule
- 2:37Speaker 2: goes so low that it just pops those bubbles. And
- 2:39Speaker 2: that's the popping sound that we're hearing.
- 2:41Speaker 1: There, you go, not your bones rubbing together? Okay, I
- 2:45Speaker 1: want you to go to recess and tell your friends
- 2:48Speaker 1: that is not your bones rubbing together.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the cavitation you mentioned earlier, I think
- 2:53Speaker 2: before we break, we should just clear that up. You
- 2:55Speaker 2: said twenty to thirty minutes. That is how long it
- 2:59Speaker 2: takes for that gas to reach dissolve into that joint fluid,
- 3:03Speaker 2: and uh, cavitation is is possible again.
- 3:09Speaker 1: My knuckles?
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Oh I just did one again. Okay, I say we
- 3:16Speaker 1: take a little break and come back and talk about
- 3:18Speaker 1: how we know that cracking your knuckles doesn't give you arthritis.
- 3:22Speaker 3: All right, we'll be right back, Chuck.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this guy before, doctor Donald Unger.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I think we did a video about him, but he
- 4:01Speaker 1: you know what, I'll bet we talked about him in
- 4:03Speaker 1: the Ignoble Prize episode because he won an ignoble for this,
- 4:08Speaker 1: butentually he conducted an experiment for sixty years because he
- 4:12Speaker 1: wanted to prove his mother wrong. And he only cracked
- 4:15Speaker 1: the knuckles and I think his left hand never cracked
- 4:19Speaker 1: him on his right hand.
- 4:20Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And then after sixty years he finally said, okay, it's
- 4:23Speaker 1: time and he x rayed his hands.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Yeah, if he didn't have the compulsion to crack his knuckles,
- 4:30Speaker 2: I could see how this happened. But if you are
- 4:32Speaker 2: a knuckle cracker, you're kind of you feel compelled to
- 4:35Speaker 2: do it. So I can't imagine what it would have
- 4:37Speaker 2: taken to not crack the knuckles on one hand for
- 4:41Speaker 2: that many years. It must have been really tough. Yeah, sure,
- 4:46Speaker 2: that's my guess. So, yeah, he did this over his lifetime.
- 4:49Speaker 2: He x rayed himself on the rag and eventually, decades later,
- 4:54Speaker 2: came to the conclusion that he doesn't have any arthritic
- 4:58Speaker 2: difference in his hands.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Case closed, he had nad no arthritic difference.
- 5:04Speaker 2: That's right.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That's not to say though, that even if you don't
- 5:08Speaker 1: get arthritis from cracking your knuckles. It's another thing you
- 5:11Speaker 1: can tell your friends at recess, did they even have
- 5:13Speaker 1: recess anymore. I guess maybe yeah, our long screen time.
- 5:17Speaker 2: No, they have recess, Okay, great.
- 5:21Speaker 1: There is damage that you can do from cracking your
- 5:24Speaker 1: knuckles habitually. There was a guy named Raymond Broder and
- 5:29Speaker 1: he examined three hundred people who crack their knuckles to
- 5:32Speaker 1: look at what their joints looked like, and compared to
- 5:35Speaker 1: the control group, no difference with arthritis. Again, but there
- 5:40Speaker 1: was other damage like soft tissue damage to that the
- 5:42Speaker 1: ligaments and the synovial fluid capsule, and that they had
- 5:47Speaker 1: a decrease in grip strength. So if you crack your
- 5:51Speaker 1: knuckles a lot, like don't even think about holding a
- 5:54Speaker 1: glass of water with just one hand.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know as you age, grip strength is important.
- 5:59Speaker 2: So it's definitely not a harmless thing. There's some other
- 6:02Speaker 2: possible side effects, something called ligament laxity, which is basically
- 6:08Speaker 2: looseness over time. If you're just doing this a lot,
- 6:12Speaker 2: that that's what leads to the reduced grip strength and
- 6:14Speaker 2: sometimes sort of overall hand function. I think in rare cases,
- 6:19Speaker 2: if you're if you have a really weird method or
- 6:21Speaker 2: forceful method, or you're a little too aggressive with it,
- 6:25Speaker 2: you can get some soft tissue swelling around the knuckles
- 6:29Speaker 2: in the joint.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can just straight up injure yourself. If
- 6:32Speaker 1: you you can like dislocate a joint, you can injure
- 6:35Speaker 1: your tendons. And even if you don't straight up injure yourself,
- 6:40Speaker 1: just habitually cracking your knuckles over time, the stretching of
- 6:43Speaker 1: the ligaments can it. Like you said, the grip strength
- 6:46Speaker 1: thing is a is a big deal, just even without
- 6:50Speaker 1: cracking your knuckles. So it also happens in pictures too,
- 6:54Speaker 1: major league pictures, imagine minor league pictures too. But over
- 6:59Speaker 1: the years, just throwing over and over and over again,
- 7:02Speaker 1: they're stretching those ligaments suddenly violently basically, which is kind
- 7:07Speaker 1: of what you're doing when you crack your knuckles. They're
- 7:09Speaker 1: just doing it with different ligaments. But that is why
- 7:12Speaker 1: Oral Hirsheiser's right arm just dangles uselessly at his side
- 7:16Speaker 1: because it's been ruined. He ruined it pitching.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know you're kind of kidding, but
- 7:22Speaker 2: sad but true. Like, especially these days, there's been more
- 7:26Speaker 2: and more instances of Tommy John surgery being required because
- 7:32Speaker 2: pitchers are throwing harder and harder and if you're not,
- 7:35Speaker 2: you know, able to get it near one hundred miles
- 7:37Speaker 2: an hour these days, you're not gonna have much of
- 7:38Speaker 2: a chance. So it's a real problem in baseball.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Bring down from my joke.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love that you love saying Earl Hirschheiser.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Sure, who oughtn't say?
- 7:52Speaker 2: Boy? He was great? There was a study in nineteen
- 7:54Speaker 2: ninety that confirmed the grip strength thing. I think they
- 7:58Speaker 2: study seventy four people who regularly crack their knuckles, and
- 8:01Speaker 2: their average grip strength was definitely lower, and they had
- 8:04Speaker 2: more instances of hand swelling than the two hundred and
- 8:08Speaker 2: twenty six people who did not crack. And another interesting
- 8:11Speaker 2: thing is they found that in another study that if
- 8:14Speaker 2: you're a habitual knuckle cracker, you are more likely to
- 8:19Speaker 2: be a manual laborer, more likely to bite your nails
- 8:22Speaker 2: as I do, smoke cigarettes which I don't, and drink
- 8:26Speaker 2: alcohol which I do.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know three for five.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Yeah I don't manual labor so okay too, shouldn't count
- 8:35Speaker 2: that one.
- 8:36Speaker 1: So there is some benefits to actually cracking your knuckles though, too.
- 8:40Speaker 1: We're not just hating on cracking your knuckles. There's something
- 8:44Speaker 1: called the Goldie tendon organs, not the Goldie apparatus. That's
- 8:47Speaker 1: a different, different episode altogether. The Goldie tenon orggans sense
- 8:53Speaker 1: muscle tension, and when you crack your knuckles, you're actually
- 8:57Speaker 1: relieving some muscle tension, So the muscles around the joints
- 9:02Speaker 1: when you crack them get relaxed, so you can feel like,
- 9:06Speaker 1: you know, your your hands feel pretty mellow after cracking
- 9:09Speaker 1: your knuckles. I saw it described as yoga for your knuckles.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeah, I thought so too, So like getting
- 9:16Speaker 2: your back cracked or.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Something basically, yeah, but for your knuckles.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Yeah, we found one more thing, you know, Like I'm
- 9:23Speaker 2: at the age where you know, if I kneel down
- 9:26Speaker 2: to get something, you're gonna hear a couple of snap
- 9:29Speaker 2: crackle and a pop maybe. And then from some part
- 9:32Speaker 2: of my body.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Do you make an involuntary sound too when you're getting up?
- 9:36Speaker 2: I do, oh oh yeah, like oh god, here we.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Go, yeah, something like that, like you can't not.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Do it, yeah for sure. And when I walk downstairs,
- 9:45Speaker 2: my right ankle, like on every step just goes pop
- 9:50Speaker 2: pop pop. So those things happen. I don't think anyone
- 9:54Speaker 2: knows exactly where that comes. From theirs speculation. It could
- 9:59Speaker 2: be just like you know, if it's your knee, it
- 10:01Speaker 2: maybe your kneecap rubbing on the bones or something like that,
- 10:04Speaker 2: or maybe a tendon sliding over a bumpy surface or
- 10:08Speaker 2: something like that. So I don't think it's anything to
- 10:10Speaker 2: be alarmed about.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It is alarming, though, for sure.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Yeah, because it comes with age. So every new pain
- 10:16Speaker 2: and sound is like, huh, that didn't happen a few years.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Ago, Exactly, I should go sit down for a while, right,
- 10:23Speaker 1: you got anything else for short stuff? Guy?
- 10:25Speaker 2: I got nothing else. I can't crack my knuckles. So
- 10:28Speaker 2: oh wait, there went one recavitated.
- 10:31Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
- 10:32Speaker 3: Though?
- 10:33Speaker 2: I think that means short.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Stuff is out.
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