Latest / AHA Podcast / The Gift That Opened Through Grief: A Conversation with Medium Shelly Wheeler-Cox (ep 12)
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- Shelly Wheeler Cox: I lost a boyfriend at a very young age. I was in the ninth grade and he was older than me, so he was driving and he got in a car accident and drowned. He was very special to me. he drowned in a car accident and I was just so upset and so young to try to deal with a death like that. And I went to bed and I woke up in the middle of the night because he had came to me in the night. And I ran out of my room and my mom ran out of her room at the same time and she looked me dead in the face and she said, You just saw him, didn't you? And I said, Yes. So that was my first real experience with the other side. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: hello and welcome to the AHA podcast. My name is Allie Andris and I am so excited today to introduce a very special guest. Her name is Shelly Wheeler Cox. Do you go by Shelly Beck Cox or Wheeler Cox, either one? Shelly Wheeler Cox: So Beck is my maiden name. And Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: then I was married and I kept the Wheelers so that my daughter and I had the same. So that's kind of where the names came from. So I go by all of it. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay, got it. He's got it. I had I had Beck on my thing, but okay. so Shelly is a medium. She does readings and the way that I met Shelly was actually early on in my grief, after Mikel's passing, I want to say I was about three months in and I actually tried to have a reading once prior to you and it just didn't go well at all. And so I was left feeling very kind of devastated. Like I I don't know what to believe. I don't know if this is real. I would love to think that you could connect with people on the other side, but I don't have a lot of hope in that. and then I went to this beautiful Breed Mom's retreat and it was amazing. Christy North puts it on and Leanne. For Shelly Wheeler Cox: Lian, Lianne Garcia, yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: a minute. Yeah, Leanne. So they put on this beautiful retreat and the moms just get pampered and it's so beautiful. And one of the sessions we get to do is have a reading with the medium. And so I didn't want to get my hopes up or get too excited that I was gonna get a connect. And I do remember this. I remember I was coming down the stairs in this. beautiful retreat cabin And I remember passing you and I just looked at you and got this feeling and I got full body chills and just like this energy kind of overcame me and I thought, I pray to God that that's the medium because if it is, I know she's gonna be good. Cause I didn't know if you were gonna be the masseuse or the facial person or you know, 'cause they have all these different sessions and then I think I was my first session, I went to you and I opened the door and there you were and I went, thank God, she is the museum and I know this is gonna be good. and just I remember you immediately connected with Mikhail and I remember being in tears bawling the whole time. It was such a gift, such a gift. She came through so strong. You got her personality. You got my other kids. everything and told me some things that I really needed to hear. So I will never forget that moment. you are so good at what you do. this is definitely your calling. And I'm so grateful that there are people like you who can give hope and after that I had so much hope and belief and I went, this is real. I can connect with her. so yes, that's our guest, Shelly. tell me what you're up to. Shelly Wheeler Cox: So I'm doing readings and I do mortgages. I was helping Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: I like doing readings. I've been really ramping up my readings and concentrating on them. I just get so much satisfaction from helping people. You know, I love that. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: I seriously I'll never forget that was really kind of my first real reading that I had and it was so powerful. I just Shelly Wheeler Cox: I love that. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: yeah, I just tear up when I think about it. it was so good. Shelly Wheeler Cox: the best connection with you too. I just walked by you and I just I loved you immediately. You know I just I just did it. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Same, same. thank you. Okay. Well Shelly Wheeler Cox: Your beautiful daughter. I seen your video the other day that you posted of you dancing 'cause she loves to dance and that touched my heart. I loved it. That was a beautiful video. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Thank you. sometimes I feel like she's coming through me or something. 'cause that's sort of my creative outlet I've started just creating these little reels about her or a sign that I get and and it's not something I'm super comfortable doing. I don't like to put myself out there, but it's like, you know what? Who cares what people think? I'm just gonna do it and And sometimes like that one went viral. I mean I think it's at almost four hundred thousand views and it was so spontaneous and my little ten year old boy filmed that at the school behind our house. And I'm like, the sun looks pretty. Keenan, will you come film me? I wanna do this little dance thing and I have this idea. And I just did it and Seriously, like it was magical because as soon as I finished I looked up and there were dragonflies, just like a swarm of dragonflies going over and I'm like, my gosh, I have to get this. And I turned the camera up and just I Shelly Wheeler Cox: I love that. I love that. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: love the magical moments. Yeah. Yeah. Shelly Wheeler Cox: My daughter's symbol is a dragonfly too, and they are very powerful, like very powerful. She was going on a solo trip and we were kind of all of us were kind of a little bit nervous about it. And she she said a little prayer and she said, give me some kind of a sign and show me a dragonfly if I'll be safe on my trip. And we were talking on the phone like a day or so later, and I She got a knock on the door and the little neighbor boy had a dragonfly on his finger and said, I need to give this to you. Out of the blue. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: my god, that's so wild. And I've never Shelly Wheeler Cox: So that's a total sign. Yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: my gosh, you never see a dragonfly on someone's finger. That's I love these stories. I love Shelly Wheeler Cox: On his finger, yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: there's so much magic. thank Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. Yep. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: you for sharing. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: And yeah, I'd love to have you tell your story to listeners about how you got started. How did you become a medium? What led to this? just tell a little about who you were before. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Okay, so I've been a reader for like probably 30 years or more. I always have had the gift, but I went through some trauma that really opened the gift for me. I lost a child in 2000. So I've lost a child myself. But in 2018 I was just I went through death after death after death and I was just wrecked. My whole world was ripped out from under me and I had to just restart all over. But one of the deaths was a person that was very special to me and that was in my life for 21 years. he died on a weekend and when he sorry, it it's emotional to me because when he passed, I was taking a nap. It was a Sunday and I was taking a nap and I got jolted awake and I set up and I was like, what is that? And all of a sudden my stomach started moving like when you're you like as if I had a baby inside of me. My stomach was moving. And I was looking down, like, what is going on? And at that moment I realized that he had passed. And because I hadn't heard anything about it. So I ran over to my phone to pick it up, and sure enough, he had passed. And After that, I could start hearing things very, very clearly. I like they're standing next to me. I get messages sometimes like they're standing right next to me, or they'll put visions in my head where I can see very clear vision. So, yeah, they absolutely communicate with you, and anybody can actually communicate with them. You just have to kind of open yourself up to it and just know what to look for. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: So you've always since you're really young you've known that you have this gift. Shelly Wheeler Cox: So my first real experience with it was I lost a boyfriend at a very young age. I was in the ninth grade and he was older than me, so he was driving and he got in a car accident and drowned. He was very special to me. his dad baptized me. but he drowned in a car accident and I was just so upset and so young to try to deal with a death like that. And I went to bed and I woke up in the middle of the night because he had came to me in the night. And I ran out of my room and my mom ran out of her room at the same time and she looked me dead in the face and she said, You just saw him, didn't you? And I said, Yes. So that was my first real experience with with it, the other side. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: And it was visual, like you you were able to actually see physically. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yes. Yes. it scared me a little bit because at that age you just aren't really you know, it kind of scared me a little bit, but now I lean into it because I love all the messages I get. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, that's beautiful. Shelly Wheeler Cox: I I will tell you, even my dog passed away a couple years ago, and I got messages from her, like a human. She I watched her go, I saw her go, and after she passed, I heard her and she was talking like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah super fast, like thank you for giving me such a beautiful life. And I was so upset I had to cover my ears because sometimes I'll get a really loud ringing in my ears. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. my gosh. So you get it 'cause there's there's like clairvoyance is kind of where you see it and clear is it what's the other clair with where you hear it? It's Claire Audio or Okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah, some I don't remember the exact yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay, so you you get kind of both gifts, like you're able to see them sometimes, and sometimes you can just hear them kind of in your head like telepathically. Is that how it works? Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yep. Yes. Yes. I can give you another example. I read for a a mother that was from a retreat and I wasn't getting a lot of messages during the reading. And I won't I won't if I don't get I don't get I'm human, you know, I'm a human. So they can choose to come or not to. And I wasn't getting a whole lot when I was reading for her. And I kind of was feeling bad about it. And and so when she left, I'm like, if I get anything, I'll let you know. And I went upstairs to wash my face. And as I bent down and came back up, I saw a very clear vision of a teddy bear. And so I called her. I'm like, Was he was he into stuffed animals? And she said, What kind of a stuffed animal? Like all excited. And I said, It's an actual teddy bear. And she said, She started bawling immediately because they had just left his grave and put an actual teddy bear on his grave. So it was confirmation that he had seen that. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, I mean what a what a sacred thing too, I think about that you do those retreats for moms because there's so much pain there and what a kind of a sacred calling to be able to be there for them during those moments. does it take a lot of energy out of you to do these for these moms? And how do you prepare for that? Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah, I come home actually very wrecked. I have to go to bed 'cause it's a lot of energy I take on. A lot of energy. But I love doing it. And the moms, you moms are just warriors. You guys go through so much and I love doing it. I really do. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: So beautiful. when you get there to these retreats, do you immediately kind of start feeling these kids come through to you? Shelly Wheeler Cox: I do, I do before, like sometimes a few days before I'll even start getting little messages from I have to tell sometimes that they're not allowed to follow me home. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: no Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. I I'll just get messages some f I have another example. I was working with a group of people and one of my really good friends at work, her dad was really on his last leg. He was, you know, he was an older man and he was sickly and getting ready to pass and all her family was flying in and I got a very clear it was like a tingle in my head. And I heard very clearly he has a month left of life. And so I turned around and I said, Everybody's flying in too soon. He's he's got a month left. And she's like, No, he's on hospice, he's not eating and everybody was sitting there and I said, No, he's got a month left of life. Everybody write it down. And we put it on the calendar and he died a month to the day. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: That is unbelievable. Wow. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. That was a very clear message, yeah. Mm-hmm. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: I that's just so wild how clearly these things can come to you. Shelly Wheeler Cox: There's a hundred percent another side and there is life after. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, what are your experiences with signs from people beyond the other side? do you get signs? Do you often hear stories of people getting signs from the other side? Do you have to hear good stories about Shelly Wheeler Cox: the time. All the time. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: signs? Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah, all the time. I've seen the other side and it's very, very vivid. Like almost so bright it hurts your eyes. But yeah, I have a hawk that follows me around and I feel it's the one that passed. that's a sign I get. And also butterflies are a sign for me, just like dragonflies are for your daughter, your beautiful daughter. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. Yeah, I remember I saw a hawk when we were at the Brieve Mom's retreat, circling right out front when I stepped outside. So maybe that was pretty cute. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yep. Probably. I it follows me all over the place. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. So so you've experienced quite a bit of grief from a young age just throughout loved ones passing, it sounds like. do you often get to communicate with them? Have over the years they just come through whenever or is it kind of like you can call on them whenever you need? Shelly Wheeler Cox: Absolutely talk to them and I ask them for things, or I'll hear things like, Sometimes when I leave the breed mother's retreats, I'll hear, I'm proud of you. So I know the work I'm doing is valued on the other side. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. And you can differentiate with which spirit it's from. Just is it like an energy you can differentiate or okay. So you Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. Yeah, you you you do know. Yeah. Yep. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: know which loved one you're hearing from. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yep, absolutely. I went to get my mortgage license back and I had to retest and as I was walking up the stairs I heard you'll pass your test very clearly. And I knew exactly who that came from. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: That's so amazing. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Ha ha Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay, so for people who who are grieving and wanting to find ways to connect for themselves, do you have anything that you can share that that helps people to to be able to get in touch with them? Like what are the best ways that people can do that? Shelly Wheeler Cox: I usually like to like just really kind of what I do is kind of like it's almost like a telephone call to the other side. Like I I kind of just channel myself like up. And you want to just be in in a like a in your own zone, like like meditation and just kind of focus like you're calling upstairs. I don't know how else to put it. Like I almost even vision a beam. And you just wanna really listen because sometimes you'll hear things in your head and people will be like, Maybe did I hear that or am I just thinking that? You gotta learn to d differentiate which is which. You just sometimes don't know what to look for, I think. So that's a good question. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Mm-hmm. So just kind of get out of your head, pay attention to what's happening, what's coming through, get into that meditative state, Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yes. You nailed it. Yes. And you Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: have a such a beautiful spirit. So I know you'll be able to connect. I would Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: huh. Shelly Wheeler Cox: just work on it because I think you'll start hearing a lot of messages from from her. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, yeah, I've had a few. I always have that battle between kind of my heart and my mind where my mind's saying, No, that's just you, like you thought of that thought and that's not her. But but then there's part of me, I feel like my soul is telling me, Yes, it is and and then it's just this like. Shelly Wheeler Cox: That's what I'm talking about. So yeah, it's I'm sure it's her. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: you. so when you're doing these readings, I remember you did it a different way because I've had a few readings at this point and you used a deck of cards to do it. Yeah. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Mm-hmm. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Which which I haven't had before, but like I I thought it was so spot on. Everything it was helping you to do. I mean you I remember just being blown away by the fact that you were like, you have two other kids. You have a I'm getting a female and it and you it kind of came through that way with the cards. And I also remember you talking about a best friend who has really showed up for me during my grief and was really there for me and that she was like darker skinned and it was like, my gosh, I know exactly who that is, and you're totally right. And it was somehow those things were coming through the cards. So how do the cards help? how does that work? Shelly Wheeler Cox: So I have both tools. So I get the messages and I also use the cards. And I don't use tarot cards. I use a regular playing card deck. It's kind of the older way. I was taught by an older lady that's been in my life forever. and I just absolutely adore her. and a lot of people are like, can you teach me how to do it? But it's just kind of something you have to get in your soul because you can't just look at them. You have to look around and kind of figure out what it's trying to tell you. So and it's really people from the other side that guide me with those. It really is. I can't take all the credit. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, yeah, maybe I mean it's probably those are kinda just like maybe breadcrumbs or like little clues and you gotta piece them together based on what's being input. Is it like that? Okay, Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yes, that's exactly how that works. Yep. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: yeah, it's so fascinating. I mean, yeah, you're so good at what you do. It's so Shelly Wheeler Cox: Thank you so much. And I just adored you. I I still do. I just think the world of you. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Same, same. Yeah. so what are you doing now? when you do your mediumship, is it specifically you're trying to connect people with their loved ones on the other side, or do you also do other intuitive work or psychic work where you can help people just with things they're going through in their life? 'Cause it yeah, is it kind of a mix of those things? Shelly Wheeler Cox: It is a mix of those things. I just read for somebody that was moving here from out of state where they were trying to. They'd never met me before. And she was really cute. She was trying to make the decision to move or not. And she was actually pretty surprised by the reading too. She was like, You are very spot on. So she was really a cute girl. And I think she was gonna move here. So I helped them with decisions like that too. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: she was gonna move like that's what she was torn on if she should move or not. Interesting. Okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: huh, yep. Yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: so when you do readings like that and people come to you with like a big question that they're trying to weigh out do you kind of just get that dropped in the same way like a voice or a feeling or something that tells you this is the path that is for their best self or Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yes, for the higher good. Yes. I have s I have some cards that are like wish cards in the deck. And sometimes you'll get your wish. I'll say you have your wish with this, but it is not necessarily how you picture it, but it ends up as a good outcome for you. That's kind of how it rolls with those cards. Like it'll be a good outcome if I get that. But it's sometimes it's not necessarily the way you envision it, but it still is a very good outcome for you. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: What about if it's not great news? Like does that happen and is that hard for you if you have to tell someone something that you can feel that would be hard to deliver? Does that happen? Shelly Wheeler Cox: Do see death cards, yes. So I will see death cards sometimes. And I'm honest. If I see something like that, I'll I will tell you that I'm seeing something like a death around you. And a lot of times I'll be specific and say, you know, I don't feel like it's somebody really close, but you'll probably hear of somebody that's passed. Or if they're asking about a like a parent that's really sick, they're wanting to know they've got a lot of time left. I'll be like, I would spend as much time with this person as you possibly can because no, I don't think so. From what I'm seeing, I'm I'm not seeing they have a lot of time left. And sometimes I'm pretty specific on dates when they go. I've had actual a a good friend of mine, I told her to watch for sevens and she died at like seven o'clock on the seventh, like things like that. So yeah, sometimes I can be specific with that. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. I love all this. Are you very confident? Cause for me and I'm newer at this, I haven't been doing it for years and years and trying to connect, but for people that are newer and they have doubts and things, it helps to hear of people that are just super confident. Like I wanna know a hundred percent that I'm gonna see my daughter again and I think that gives so much hope. Like what What has helped you to just remain steadfast that this is real and that you believe that all these things coming to you are from the other side? And cause sometimes it feels like when I when I get those things, I feel like maybe I'm going crazy a little. And that's part of my like analytical mind stepping in saying, this is you starting to go insane because you're hearing things. You know, like Shelly Wheeler Cox: you think Johnny not going insane. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. So how do you how do you navigate that? Are you just a hundred percent in and you know this and you can confidently say it and help other people to have that peace and confidence? Where does Shelly Wheeler Cox: To me that's the saddest thing to think that there's not life after death, to think that that's the end. I mean, it is kind of the end in this lifetime, but to know that you have the chance to see them again is I mean, that's the only way to get through it, I think, you know? Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, yeah. Shelly Wheeler Cox: And I've seen so much, so I can tell you with a hundred percent that there is life on the other side. I've had way too many experiences, seen way too much. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: And yeah, what kinds of things have you seen? what is your impression of what happens after you die? 'cause I've watched a lot of near death experiences. Is it like you have this life review and get to see how you've spread love in the world and is it just like this reunion with your loved ones and just Full of pure love. That's that's what I've seen through the NDEs I've watched. I mean, what's your vision? Shelly Wheeler Cox: So I've had an ex an experience with the other side like that where it was a dream though. And he came to me in a dream, and I it it was so bright. Again, like I said, it is so bright. Like it almost blinds you. It hurts your eyes. and when I woke up, I felt so much love like I was on a drug, like euphoric. Like I'm telling you, there is so much love on the other side. They do not feel pain. I don't think there's a sadness on the other side because I've never felt any. I just feel overpowering love. Like euphoric love. It's the most amazing feeling. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. So when people wonder if their loved ones are okay, you want to know if they're okay. Really they are. They're they're experiencing so much love and we're we're Shelly Wheeler Cox: They are Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: the ones that are causing our suffering because we're not understanding the separateness from them and they're just feeling all this love. Wow. Shelly Wheeler Cox: I remember walking through the cemetery after the one passed away that I talked about, the the one that came to me and jolted me awake. And I I was so sad, just crying walking through the cemetery and I heard from the sky so loud, it's not sad. And I remember stopping in my tracks and looking up and saying, This might not be sad to you, but this is really sad for me, because you're just so sad when you you know. But To me, he's trying to tell me that it's just not sad. You know, there's so much more after, and we're just seeing just such a small piece, and we're just here to learn our lessons and grow. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. Yeah. do you feel like there's soul contracts like people's exit points are kind of determined and for instance 'cause I do believe that now with my daughter, and it was at first sort of a little bit of a harder pill to swallow, but after you accepted and it sat with me, I'm like, no, that actually makes complete sense because it felt like her soul was so bright that it was intended Shelly Wheeler Cox: right. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: intended to shine for just the 14 years that she was here and she served her soul's purpose and that that was always kind of the plan which sounds crazy now to me but I fully believe that now and do you feel like that's how it works kind of that souls have these exit points that they planned on. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Absolutely. And your daughter was very special. And I remember in our reading that she did go when she was supposed to. And I can see that. I have a karmic card that sh that shows me if they went when they were supposed to. So your daughter was not supposed to be here long. She was supposed to be here to learn what she needed to learn and then go. She was very, very special. She's very special. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: well I think so. Shelly Wheeler Cox: I know so. I know so. She Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. Shelly Wheeler Cox: very beautiful soul. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah, do you ever see like their auras or their lights? Like Shelly Wheeler Cox: When I see them they're very bright. They're I do see their aura. They're very bright. trust translucent and bright. That's how I can describe it. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Yeah. okay, well I want to ask one last question I like to ask at the end because it's the aha podcast, Awake and Heal Align. If you could describe through your spiritual journey, what's been probably your biggest aha moment that you've had. Shelly Wheeler Cox: it was probably when when that guy passed and he came to me and jolted me awake and I just I've never really been touched by one before. And to have him touch my stomach and it was almost like he was pulling at me. So and I it changed a lot in me. It changed he pierced my veil and that just changed a lot. I really was more open to everything after that happened. So yeah, that was my aha moment. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: That led you down this path to decide that this is what you want to do is help people connect beyond the veil. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Well, Christine always knew I did cards and every time she kept trying to find a reader, it kept coming back to me. And she's like, and I don't think she realized that I had gotten so good. Cause we have been friends since seventh grade. and then I read for her about her son that opened her eyes and it's just fallen into place. It's meant to be. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: It absolutely is. It's what you're supposed to be doing. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yep. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: well thank you for doing it. Thank you for spreading this hope to so many. and how can people reach you? what's the best way that people can connect with you? Shelly Wheeler Cox: So I'm on Facebook, I have a webpage. it's Spiritual Insight is the name of my company. I'd love to help anybody that needs help. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: Okay, and you'll do all kinds of readings if they wanna connect with loved ones or if they're facing a hard decision or just want some guidance in life. You can do all those things. Okay. Okay. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yep. All those things. Yep. And it was so lovely to meet you. Again, I'm so you're like a treasure in my life. You are you truly are. You're so beautiful. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: So much Shelly, you are too. I just Shelly Wheeler Cox: Yeah. Ali Andrus - AHA Podcast: love you. And yeah, thank you for giving me that gift of hope when I needed it the most. I will that it's just I'll never forget that moment. It was so so beautiful. So yeah, thank you. And thank you for being on here and sharing your story and just love you. Okay. Bye. Shelly Wheeler Cox: Thank you for having me. Okay, thank you. Love you bye.