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- 1:51Speaker 3: So now let's go to number two. You want to
- 1:54Speaker 3: start with this rough ira. Man, this is your whale
- 1:58Speaker 3: bask field. I want you to cook and then I'm
- 2:01Speaker 3: just gonna like chef up with you.
- 2:02Speaker 2: So the wroyth ira is another one of these strategies
- 2:06Speaker 2: that we talk about that can be beneficial for not
- 2:08Speaker 2: only for the adult, but for the child. So there's
- 2:11Speaker 2: a few types. There's the roth ira UH, and then
- 2:14Speaker 2: we have AH.
- 2:17Speaker 1: There's a traditional ira and then.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Direct So traditional ira is you put money into a
- 2:23Speaker 3: retirement account and you get a tax deduction for the
- 2:26Speaker 3: money that you put in, but it's taxable when you're
- 2:29Speaker 3: in retirement. So IRA stands for individual retirement account. That's
- 2:32Speaker 3: what it stands for, right. So people are familiar with
- 2:34Speaker 3: four one K. That's what your job provides in.
- 2:36Speaker 1: The four O three B if you work in some
- 2:38Speaker 1: other same thing.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Yeah, But if you want to do it for yourself
- 2:41Speaker 3: as a self employed personal, just a regular you know, employee,
- 2:46Speaker 3: you can do an IRA. And IRA is an individual
- 2:49Speaker 3: retirement account. So the regular individual retirement account is what
- 2:54Speaker 3: we just described, and then there's a WROTH. The wroth IRA,
- 2:58Speaker 3: you're able to put money in for your retirement, but
- 3:01Speaker 3: you don't get a tax deduction. But the benefit with
- 3:04Speaker 3: the rough IRA is that the money's tax free when
- 3:06Speaker 3: you take the money out. So one of the good
- 3:09Speaker 3: things with being an entrepreneur is that you can employ
- 3:11Speaker 3: your child.
- 3:12Speaker 1: We talked about this before, yep.
- 3:14Speaker 3: But even if you don't employ your child, you can
- 3:18Speaker 3: set up a rough IRA for your child as long
- 3:21Speaker 3: as your child is working. So this year, how much
- 3:25Speaker 3: money can you pay your child this year?
- 3:27Speaker 1: I think we got to fourteen thousand, three hundred.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand, three hundred and we get this question a lot,
- 3:34Speaker 2: a lot, and yes, I'm glad that people are asking
- 3:36Speaker 2: the question of like can I The child has to
- 3:39Speaker 2: be of working age. So if you have a two
- 3:41Speaker 2: year old that is not classified as a working age,
- 3:44Speaker 2: I believe the working age is between seven to seventeen,
- 3:46Speaker 2: and they have to be doing something that's functional. We
- 3:49Speaker 2: work in a platform that actually has functioned.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Right, So for my.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Son, right when we actually record, he'll come down, he'll
- 3:57Speaker 2: set up, he'll sweep, he'll clean the area. That is
- 4:01Speaker 2: an actual functional duty that he is doing to help
- 4:04Speaker 2: the business. So if you don't have a functional activity
- 4:08Speaker 2: or a purpose for it, then it makes it tougher.
- 4:10Speaker 2: But it has to be between the ages of seven
- 4:12Speaker 2: to seventeen. You can't have your three year old performing
- 4:16Speaker 2: a function or maybe you can't maybe you got a
- 4:17Speaker 2: super child, but that's the age range.
- 4:20Speaker 3: So the benefit okay, So the benefit with paying your
- 4:25Speaker 3: child is that it's a tax deduction for you as
- 4:29Speaker 3: an entrepreneur for your company, and it's tax free income
- 4:34Speaker 3: to your child up to that amount. So if you
- 4:36Speaker 3: pay your child ten thousand dollars, right instead of giving
- 4:39Speaker 3: them allowance, right, Because now when you give somebody allowance.
- 4:43Speaker 3: That's after tax money. You've already paid taxes on that money.
- 4:46Speaker 3: So if you're giving them allowance to buy sneakers or
- 4:48Speaker 3: to you know, do whatever, you don't get any benefit
- 4:51Speaker 3: for that. But as an entrepreneur, if you can give
- 4:53Speaker 3: them ten thousand dollars or five thousand or whatever you're
- 4:56Speaker 3: giving them and it's salary, now you get a tax deduction. Right,
- 5:02Speaker 3: you save money on taxes and it's tax fe they
- 5:05Speaker 3: don't have. They don't have to pay taxes on that income.
- 5:07Speaker 3: So that's beneficial for any entrepreneur. Now, where the raw
- 5:12Speaker 3: firay thing comes into play is that you can contribute
- 5:19Speaker 3: to a raw fira or an ira. But we'll talk
- 5:22Speaker 3: about the rawal fira for now, but you can contribute
- 5:24Speaker 3: to a row firara for your child that's working up
- 5:28Speaker 3: to the amount that they're actually getting paid. So they
- 5:31Speaker 3: if they have a regular job, they work in CBS
- 5:33Speaker 3: and they got paid five thousand dollars, then they can
- 5:36Speaker 3: have a raw fira up to five thousand dollars if
- 5:40Speaker 3: you pay them. If you are an entrepreneur, you pay
- 5:44Speaker 3: them five thousand dollars, then they can contribute up to
- 5:47Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. Right, So the limit for this year
- 5:50Speaker 3: is UH seven thousand thousand, that's the most right.
- 5:54Speaker 1: So okay, this has.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Beneficial for people to know and understand because once again
- 6:00Speaker 3: it's just relatively short periods of time that could lead
- 6:03Speaker 3: to large moneys over the cost of time. So if
- 6:06Speaker 3: you are an entrepreneur, right, and you you have a
- 6:09Speaker 3: business in mind, you you can be an entrepreneur and
- 6:11Speaker 3: still have a job also. But if you if you're
- 6:14Speaker 3: an entrepreneur, you have a business, Let's say that you
- 6:17Speaker 3: you you paid your child seven thousand dollars right for
- 6:21Speaker 3: the year, Now you can that's the tax deduction. You're
- 6:25Speaker 3: going to save money seven thousand dollars only taxis Now
- 6:28Speaker 3: you can take that seven thousand dollars and put it
- 6:32Speaker 3: into a rough IRA. Now, the benefit with that is
- 6:37Speaker 3: that now the money is actually invested. You're invested in
- 6:40Speaker 3: the stock market. So let's just use an example. Usually
- 6:44Speaker 3: UH working age is around twelve. So if we picked
- 6:51Speaker 3: the ages from twelve to seventeen, to seventeen will be
- 6:55Speaker 3: probably at last year in high school and then you know,
- 6:57Speaker 3: after that point they're put they're an adult eighteen years old.
- 7:00Speaker 3: So you go from twelve to seventeen, which is six years.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Let's say that you put seven thousand dollars in to
- 7:09Speaker 3: a rough IRA every year for a child. Mind you,
- 7:11Speaker 3: you're getting a tax deduction for this money. Anyway, you
- 7:14Speaker 3: put seven thousand dollars away every year for six years, right,
- 7:20Speaker 3: and let's say you invested it in QQQ. Right, historically
- 7:25Speaker 3: over the last fifteen twenty years, think it's average over
- 7:30Speaker 3: ten percent, So we can use ten percent as something
- 7:33Speaker 3: that should possibly be a realistic number.
- 7:36Speaker 1: That might and that might be conservative at this point.
- 7:38Speaker 3: So let's say you invested that money ten percent a
- 7:40Speaker 3: year untouched. Because the thing with the IRA is that
- 7:46Speaker 3: is for your retirement, right, So when they retire, they'll
- 7:51Speaker 3: have three point five million dollars. So the benefit with
- 7:55Speaker 3: that is that you already made your child a multi
- 8:01Speaker 3: millionaire in their retirement. Now to pushback for someone will say, okay,
- 8:04Speaker 3: well the child has to wait till this sixty years
- 8:07Speaker 3: old to get it. Well, my question is if somebody
- 8:11Speaker 3: had a million dollars, two million, or three million dollars
- 8:14Speaker 3: for you right now and said and you're forty, and
- 8:19Speaker 3: said at sixty you will you will get this money.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Would you be mad and you did nothing for it
- 8:26Speaker 3: a couple of years of work when you was a child,
- 8:28Speaker 3: would you be mad at your grandparent for doing that
- 8:32Speaker 3: or would you look forward to the opportunity? Mind you, you
- 8:36Speaker 3: can take money from a row fire eight early in
- 8:37Speaker 3: the next there's some penalties that you have to pay,
- 8:40Speaker 3: but you don't have to wait till your sixty.
- 8:42Speaker 1: You don't have to wait till you sixty.
- 8:44Speaker 2: And again, this is a conservative number, right, So we're
- 8:46Speaker 2: talking about ten percent. There's years obviously we saw over
- 8:50Speaker 2: the past three where the QQQ was trashed. The technology
- 8:53Speaker 2: sector has gone up twenty five percent, right, it's going
- 8:56Speaker 2: up twenty six percent, and then it's going down to twelve.
- 8:59Speaker 2: If we just take those averages over the past five years,
- 9:01Speaker 2: you're talking about way more than ten percent. The one
- 9:04Speaker 2: thing that we know about the stock market is that
- 9:06Speaker 2: it is going to appreciate eighty two percent of the
- 9:09Speaker 2: time that SMP has increased over the course of the
- 9:12Speaker 2: market's history. And so ten percent is a conservative number.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So we're you're saying sixty, but that number could hit
- 9:19Speaker 2: three million by fifty, right, And so it's all about
- 9:22Speaker 2: deferring the gratification, right, Just knowing that it's there and
- 9:26Speaker 2: letting it compound like it is the eighth wonder of
- 9:30Speaker 2: the world. For a reason that money doesn't get touched,
- 9:33Speaker 2: you'll be a millionaire. This is not something that's hypothetical.
- 9:36Speaker 2: At that number, at a conservative ten percent, that's what
- 9:39Speaker 2: it's going to average.
- 9:41Speaker 3: And it's one of these things that it's not even
- 9:43Speaker 3: it's just basic math. Right, This is that's like life
- 9:51Speaker 3: assurance is the easiest way, but this is another damn
- 9:55Speaker 3: guaranteed way to make your child a multi millionaire. Now,
- 9:58Speaker 3: once we get we never said we said make your
- 10:01Speaker 3: child a millionaire. We never said there's gonna be a
- 10:03Speaker 3: millionaire tomorrow. But once again, we're talking about generational wealth.
- 10:06Speaker 3: So the whole point of it is that the child
- 10:10Speaker 3: should be equipped to be earning money, to be doing
- 10:12Speaker 3: things as an adult.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Everything that they've given is extra add ons for them, right,
- 10:20Speaker 3: So this isn't like the only thing that they should
- 10:22Speaker 3: be like relying on as a twenty five year old.
- 10:25Speaker 3: But like I said, if you can, one of the
- 10:28Speaker 3: biggest problems that we have in a society is retirement.
- 10:33Speaker 3: And they're already talking about cutbacks on Social Security. So
- 10:37Speaker 3: if you don't have to worry about retirement. How much
- 10:40Speaker 3: more free? I know people that take jobs just for
- 10:42Speaker 3: retirement benefits. Yep, you work a job for thirty years
- 10:46Speaker 3: just because it has a good pension.
- 10:48Speaker 2: People will retire and go back to get a part
- 10:50Speaker 2: time job because they need the insurance.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure.
- 10:54Speaker 2: And here's the thing, right, like, yeah, fifty sounds if
- 10:57Speaker 2: you're sitting in your twenties and your thirties, Like, sixty
- 10:59Speaker 2: sounds like a long Like we just I just turned
- 11:01Speaker 2: forty three years ago.
- 11:02Speaker 1: You just turned forty a year ago.
- 11:05Speaker 2: At that same rate, you're still at that ten percent, right,
- 11:08Speaker 2: just from them five years, from twelve to seventeen, that
- 11:10Speaker 2: ten percent compounded turns to nearly six hundred thousand by forty.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what did you get a.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Six hundred thousand dollars take in forty? I might have
- 11:19Speaker 2: missed it. No, I wasn't sitting there for you.
- 11:21Speaker 3: So yeah, on five hundred and thirty one thousand dollars
- 11:23Speaker 3: about forty. So, like I said, you don't. It's not
- 11:25Speaker 3: like a locked up and a trust. You can take
- 11:28Speaker 3: money out of the IRA whenever you want. You'll pay
- 11:30Speaker 3: You'll pay an early penalty if you take it out
- 11:34Speaker 3: before your retirement. That's important to notice. But if you
- 11:37Speaker 3: need money, like let's say you've got a brilliant idea,
- 11:39Speaker 3: you want to start a business, you can take the
- 11:41Speaker 3: money out. It's never been taxed before, so you pay tax,
- 11:44Speaker 3: you'll pay taxes on it, you'll pay a penalty tax.
- 11:46Speaker 3: But ideally it's better to wait because you'll pay no tax.
- 11:51Speaker 3: And like I said, keep in mind that money at
- 11:53Speaker 3: sixty three point five million is tax free. So when
- 11:57Speaker 3: you get your four one k, you're paying state and
- 12:00Speaker 3: federal taxes on it. So yeah, a million dollars is
- 12:02Speaker 3: really six hundred thousand dollars. This is three point five
- 12:06Speaker 3: million dollars tax free money. So I mean, that's just
- 12:10Speaker 3: the tremendtut Like I said, for a very short period
- 12:12Speaker 3: of time. You just you paid seven thousand dollars a
- 12:15Speaker 3: year for six years, and that could be two thousand.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Of course it's going to be a lower. But you know,
- 12:19Speaker 3: you could use the calculator to see, Okay, if I
- 12:21Speaker 3: put a thousand dollars and if I put two thousand
- 12:23Speaker 3: dollars and if I put fifteen hundred dollars in right,
- 12:25Speaker 3: what is that equal? But the bottom line is that
- 12:27Speaker 3: relatively small amounts of money in a short, relatively short
- 12:30Speaker 3: period of time equals huge amounts of money later on
- 12:33Speaker 3: in life.
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