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Today’s Prophetic Signs of the Imminent Rapture | L.A. Marzulli · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Gary Steerman and this is Prophecy Watchers. With
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Speaker 2: me today is La mar Zuli, one of my favorite people.
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Speaker 1: Hi La, Hi Gary, Thanks for having me on. And
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Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite people too. Always great to
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Speaker 1: see you know, see and hear you. And you know
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Speaker 1: we talk often on the phone. Most people don't realize that,
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Speaker 1: but every couple of weeks we're have a little half
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Speaker 1: hour forty five minute update on things, and I always
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Speaker 1: look forward to those.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot to talk about, as you know only
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Speaker 2: too well. Today I want to talk about the level
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Speaker 2: of conversation that I'm seeing concerning the rapture of the church.
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Speaker 2: You know, for years and years we've talked about the
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Speaker 2: rapture of the church, but it's getting a little different
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Speaker 2: these days.
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Speaker 1: Right, I would say so. I mean, people are starting
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Speaker 1: to wonder whether we're in the time that the Bible
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Speaker 1: talks about. And I mean you and I have talked
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Speaker 1: about this again off the record, and I think we're
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Speaker 1: closer than that. And most people would think I think
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Speaker 1: it's really close. I really do.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's as the Bible states, the rapture. The
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Speaker 2: world will not really understand what's going on, and the
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Speaker 2: rapture is presented as a mystery. But behold, I show
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Speaker 2: you a mystery. We shall not all sleep. And then
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Speaker 2: it goes on from there, and we all know the
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Speaker 2: words that follow. But you know, have you ever seen
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Speaker 2: so many books on the rapture of the church in
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Speaker 2: print as we have right now?
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Speaker 1: It's amazing. The excitement well, and I think the excitement
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Speaker 1: is justified for those of us who believe in the
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Speaker 1: biblical prophetic narrative. And we look at what's going on,
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Speaker 1: wars and rumors of wars, famines, pestilence, earthquakes in diverse places, trouble,
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Speaker 1: sometimes the advent of Ai to the point where you
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Speaker 1: don't know what you're looking at is real or fabricated.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Israel's back in the Home Man nineteen forty eight.
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Speaker 1: That starts to profetic clock ticking. Most of us know
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Speaker 1: that Amos nine, fourteen and fifteen, I will bring back
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Speaker 1: the capitains of my people Israel. The reason why I
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Speaker 1: want to say that is because so much of a
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Speaker 1: church is a millennial of a new pope, God bless him,
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Speaker 1: but he's a millennial. And this is why the whole
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Speaker 1: idea of replacement theology. Well, if the Bible is true,
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Speaker 1: then how do we square Amos nine fourteen and fifteen.
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Speaker 1: I was on recently with a person who was very
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Speaker 1: anti Semitic, very anti Israel, and I just said, and
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Speaker 1: they profess to be a Christian, who knows whether they
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Speaker 1: were or not? I said, well, how do you square
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Speaker 1: Amos nine fourteen and fifteen? Where Amos nine fourteen and
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Speaker 1: fifteen states this, I will bring back the captains of
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Speaker 1: my people Israel. Check. They will build the way cities
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Speaker 1: and inhabit them. Check. They will plant venus, drink the
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Speaker 1: wine from them. Check. They will also plant guards and
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Speaker 1: eat the fruit from them. Check check jack. Check. And
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Speaker 1: here's the kicker. I will plant them in their land,
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Speaker 1: and never again will they be plucked up out of
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Speaker 1: a land I have given them. There's no way around that.
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Speaker 1: There's no wiggle room. You can say, well, that really happened.
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Speaker 1: And you know when Babylonian captivity nonsense, This is it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were displaced from their home land for
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Speaker 1: almost two thousand years. They've rebuilt away cities, there are vineyards,
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Speaker 1: they are in their land. Never again, are they going
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Speaker 1: to get plucked up? And Jerusalem is certainly a cup
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Speaker 1: of trembling to the whole world. So I'd like to
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Speaker 1: hear your comment. Oh no, the current state of upheaval
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Speaker 1: in the world today, if you put your little pin
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Speaker 1: right in the middle of Jerusalem, you know, and then
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Speaker 1: pull a string around Jerusalem, You've got a world full
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Speaker 1: of conflict right now, economic conflict, military conflict, technological conflict.
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Speaker 1: And on the horizon is AI. I don't know about you,
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Speaker 1: but I'm hearing the experts now say saying things like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm afraid of a I work with it,
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Speaker 1: and I don't like the direction it's going right now.
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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying here is the world is not stabilizing.
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Speaker 1: It's destabilizing on just about every level. And that's exactly
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Speaker 1: the environment described at the time of the rapture. And
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Speaker 1: when when you look about look at scripture on the rapture,
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Speaker 1: you run into that kind of societal upheaval, you know.
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Speaker 1: At the Property Watches conference, I did a presentation basically,
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Speaker 1: you know, how do you how do we get to
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Speaker 1: a one world government or one more religious system? And
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Speaker 1: I and I use Toynbee a noted historian of the
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Speaker 1: last century, twentieth century, and Toynbe, and Toybe's right. History.
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Speaker 1: You know, empires rise, empires fall. It seems to be cyclical,
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Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I agree with them. But
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Speaker 1: what Twinsy didn't factor in is the biblical prophetic narrative.
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Speaker 1: Because the Bible's prophecy, the historicity of the Bible, the
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Speaker 1: threat from Genesis to Revelation, it's not cyclical. It talks
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Speaker 1: about a climax, and that climax, the first one is
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Speaker 1: the birth of Messiah, and of course his death and
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Speaker 1: resurrection on Calvary almost two thousand years ago. But the
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Speaker 1: big one we're all waiting for is the Second Coming.
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Speaker 1: History is climactic and that's where we're headed up to.
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Speaker 1: So everything is ramping up to the Second Coming, but
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Speaker 1: before that, the rapture of the church. We go up,
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Speaker 1: they come down, We go up, they show up.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at the first Essenonians five and the
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Speaker 2: third verse. We all know this, but I want your reaction,
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Speaker 2: given what's going on right now, For when they shall
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Speaker 2: say peace and safety, then sudden destruction come of the
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Speaker 2: upon them, as true hail upon a woman with child
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Speaker 2: the birth pangs, of course, but ye brethren, are not
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Speaker 2: in darkness that that day should overtake you as a thief.
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Speaker 2: So biblically speaking, the rapture is always embedded in the
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Speaker 2: scenario of global revolution. And so let's talk about what's
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Speaker 2: going on right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's in some ways it's unprecedented, and there
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be any release. I mean, I have
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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. We talk, we text each
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Speaker 1: other at least once twice, three times a day, and he's,
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Speaker 1: you know, in some sort of an agency, which I
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Speaker 1: don't know which, but he's he's got his pulse on
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Speaker 1: what's going on on a global level, and he's you know,
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Speaker 1: he feeds me information. Nothing is classified, nothing like that.
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Speaker 1: But he's just got a real bird's eye view of
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Speaker 1: the world and what's going on. Well, you start walking
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Speaker 1: through it. You know, right after the election, you know,
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Speaker 1: things seemed to calm down a little bit. Now all
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Speaker 1: hell's breaking loose. Trump has not solved the Russia Ukrainian
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Speaker 1: conflict in twenty four hours. Zelenski was made a fool
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Speaker 1: out of you know that that conflict, the meat grinder
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Speaker 1: where soldiers from both sides go in. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're just blown the pieces. Now we've got Israel still
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Speaker 1: fighting a seven front war, and that the player to watch,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is Turkey. The player to watch his
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Speaker 1: Turkey Erewon has stated on the record where he plays
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Speaker 1: prays to Allah and says, oh Allah, you know, destroy
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Speaker 1: the Zionists, destroy Israel. That that's his heart, that's what
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Speaker 1: he wants to see, that's what that's his belief system,
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Speaker 1: that's his that's his core belief system, that's his you know,
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Speaker 1: motives of operenda. That's where and who would have imagined Asad,
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Speaker 1: you know, fleeing to Russia for his life and then
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Speaker 1: the genocide that follows. We don't hear word one about it.
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Speaker 1: You still don't hear a word about the genocide going
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Speaker 1: on in Syria where thousands of Christians and Drews have
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Speaker 1: been killed. So, I mean, you can start going around
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Speaker 1: the globe and just recently, you know, Israel's fighting a
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Speaker 1: seven front war, and my friends said, well that's sort
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Speaker 1: of calmed down. Nonsense. It hasn't calmed down at all.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Whosis are going at it. Egypt has
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Speaker 1: militarized it all on the border you know, you've got Iraq,
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Speaker 1: You've got Iran, You've got the Housis, which I've already mentioned,
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Speaker 1: You've got the Palestadians, you've got Hamas, You've got who
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Speaker 1: knows what's in Syria, You've got Turkey, and of course
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Speaker 1: Iran is you know, fueling all of this. And Iran,
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Speaker 1: I believe, is that far away from actually acquiring a nuke.
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Speaker 2: And this all happening in the shadow of nineteen thirty eight.
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Speaker 2: And when you go to Israel, of course, God by
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Speaker 2: Sham the memorial to the horrific to horrific way that
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Speaker 2: Israel was treated. We all remember that, you know, thousands
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Speaker 2: of feet of movie reel back in the day showing
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Speaker 2: unspeakable travesties against the Jewish people, and then the miracle
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Speaker 2: of their return to the land and statehood in nineteen
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Speaker 2: forty eight, and everybody said, oh never again, Israel is
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Speaker 2: just home free. Nothing's going to happen. They're okay, And
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Speaker 2: guess what, something's happening.
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Speaker 1: And of course you're referring to October seventh. I was
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Speaker 1: at the Prophecy Watchers conference on October seventh, and I
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Speaker 1: was slated. Peggy and I were slated to fly into
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Speaker 1: Tel Aviv the next day. That's what, and Bob alric
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Speaker 1: are good friend. Bob gets on the phone at six
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Speaker 1: o'clock Israel's at war. I go what. And by eight
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Speaker 1: thirty we had canceled our conference. And I won't take
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Speaker 1: a bustload of people into a war zone. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I just won't do it. So we have not and
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering whether I'll ever see Israel again because all
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Speaker 1: of this. You know, we could be that close to
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Speaker 1: the rapture of a church and I've been there once
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Speaker 1: and I was hoping to go back again every year,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't right now, it's not in the cards.
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Speaker 1: So you know, this whole thing. October seventh, they started it.
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Speaker 1: And again I had a conversation with someone who was
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Speaker 1: very anti Semitic and everything else. So somehow it's okay
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Speaker 1: for Hamas to do a surprise attack, killed twelve hundred people,
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Speaker 1: slaughter them in the most unspeakable ways you can think of.
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Speaker 1: And I won't even discuss some of the ways. Actually
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Speaker 1: I will because I'm going to give you just one
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Speaker 1: example of the kind of atrocities that were committed which
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Speaker 1: our goofy mainstream media never talks about. And somehow all
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Speaker 1: the anti Semites never never focus in on. There's a
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Speaker 1: there's a torture. It's it's called the flaming necklace. And
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Speaker 1: what it is, I believe it's a flaming necklace. But
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Speaker 1: what this is is they take a tire and and
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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're tied up. They take a tire
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Speaker 1: and they put it over your head and the inner
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Speaker 1: side of a tire they fill with gasoline and then
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Speaker 1: they light it. It's a fire necklace. That's what it's called.
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Speaker 1: It's a fire necklace. Wow. And and you burned to
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Speaker 1: death in absolute agony, in agony. No one reports on that.
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Speaker 1: We do, we're talking about it here. So the level
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Speaker 1: of atrocity is And and by the way, the hostages
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Speaker 1: are still there. I mean when when they when they
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Speaker 1: cart it out, when they exchange the hostages, the two
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Speaker 1: dead babies that they bought out, the Hamas cheered because
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Speaker 1: you know, we we killed these two little babies. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's and this goes back and I
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Speaker 1: just want to get into this real quickly. Gaza was
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Speaker 1: a Nepheline stronghold, and Gaza was never conquered by Joshua
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Speaker 1: and Caleb. It says right in the word that we
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Speaker 1: left this. They left. They didn't go into Gaza, goth
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Speaker 1: Ascalon and Gaza's We're all trouble. And I'm not accusing
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Speaker 1: the so called Palestine andrew Hamas of being Nephilim or
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Speaker 1: anything like that. What I am saying is that territorial
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Speaker 1: spirit has reigned over that and the unmitigated hatred of
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Speaker 1: this tiny little country makes no sense at all. It
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Speaker 1: makes no sense, and yet it's there and it's not
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Speaker 1: going on. Well.
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Speaker 2: As you know, I have been reading the minor prophets
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Speaker 2: rather assiduously lately, because they are coming awake. For years
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Speaker 2: we didn't look at the minor prophets. But a while
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Speaker 2: back I took note of profits zephy Andiyah in You
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Speaker 2: know my reaction, the reaction I got when I talk
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Speaker 2: to people, well, who reads Zephaniah, Well, I do now
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Speaker 2: because ash and Iah just happened to be talking about
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Speaker 2: in Cephenie nine. This is in the context that the
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Speaker 2: day of the Lord is near. It is very near,
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Speaker 2: and Inepni one nine in the same day, I will
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Speaker 2: punish those that leap on the threshold which fill their
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Speaker 2: master's houses with violence and deceit. And this is then
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Speaker 2: goes on to describe a latter day attack on Israel,
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Speaker 2: and you go down to verse four in a chapter
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Speaker 2: two and it says, for Goza shall be forsaken, Ashkalon
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Speaker 2: a desolation. They shall drive out Ashdot at noonday Ekron
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Speaker 2: shall be rooted up. WHOA get this? This is a
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Speaker 2: whoe onto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation
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Speaker 2: of the Cherathyites.
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Speaker 1: And this is.
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Speaker 2: Talking about Gaza attacking Israel in the latter days. And
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Speaker 2: the word charify it's kera team in Hebrew means the
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Speaker 2: lowest of the low Cretan savages. And here in verse
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Speaker 2: five the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of
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Speaker 2: the Karra team that is. And another way you can
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Speaker 2: can translate this is running assassins.
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Speaker 1: And there you have it.
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Speaker 2: So I read this a while back, and it has
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Speaker 2: then moved me to other places in the Old Testament
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Speaker 2: to talk about what's going to happen to regathered Israel
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Speaker 2: in the latter days. In La I'm finding all sorts
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Speaker 2: of indicators that were very close.
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Speaker 1: I would agree. And you know you mentioned Ai previously,
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Speaker 1: but then you look at what scripture says, and this
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Speaker 1: is just the thing he started for where to begin?
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Speaker 1: I mean, as a student in the of biblical prophecy,
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Speaker 1: you know, you and I and others of our ilk
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Speaker 1: we've been looking at this and walking in it, examining,
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Speaker 1: watching carefully, looking at scriptures, wondering, weighing prophecy. And I've
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Speaker 1: said this public and I'll say it again. We are
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Speaker 1: at the point where you can't fix this anymore. You
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Speaker 1: cannot fix this anymore. And you mentioned AI. How do
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Speaker 1: you know what you're looking at is real? Someone sent
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Speaker 1: me a Donald Trump AI video, but you don't know
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Speaker 1: it's a Donald Trump. You know it's Trump, and he's
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Speaker 1: in the Oval Office, and it looks one hundred percent real,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent reel, and it's talking about
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Speaker 1: Building seven and all this stuff. And then at the
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Speaker 1: very end of the clip it goes, you know, this
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Speaker 1: was AI too good to be true? You know that
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Speaker 1: type of thing. So I mean, you don't know. I
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Speaker 1: mean Mondo Gonzalez, co host of Prophecy Watchers, at the
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Speaker 1: last conference, did a little little spiel where Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was talking about Mondo Gonzalez and we all laughed and
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Speaker 1: we all chuckled. But here's where it gets. Where it
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Speaker 1: gets evil and pernicious. You can use AI to create
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Speaker 1: the most vile, obscene clip of you or me or
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Speaker 1: Mondo or anybody. And how do you defend against that?
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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't say that. Well, we have it right
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Speaker 1: here here it is. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, even the people who now are working on
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Speaker 2: AARI are becoming afraid of what it's doing. I've heard
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Speaker 2: several of them speaking lately, and they're saying, we really
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Speaker 2: don't know how this is going to turn out. In
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Speaker 2: a sense, AI is creating itself. And you know, if
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Speaker 2: this isn't Antichrist stuff, I don't know what is. Because
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Speaker 2: the whole world's going to be controlled by some kind
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Speaker 2: of system. And may I suggest AI, and may I
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Speaker 2: suggest that before that happens.
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Speaker 1: That you're which is going to be taken home? And
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Speaker 1: I agree? And this is I mean, you get to
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Speaker 1: the point where how can you or I be accountable
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Speaker 1: for anything that we see anymore? I mean, if we
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Speaker 1: don't know it's real, how can you be held accountable?
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Speaker 1: And and it's like truth is thrown to the street.
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Speaker 1: Wh's exactly where we are? You know, good is called evil,
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Speaker 1: evil is called good and the whole Matthew, you know
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Speaker 1: twenty four Looke, twenty one, Mark, thirteen punch lists. But
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Speaker 1: it's there, wars and rooms, a war, famines, best on,
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Speaker 1: earthquakes in diverse places, troublesome times. I mean, the fires
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Speaker 1: out here in California were absolutely devastating last year, devastating,
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Speaker 1: and so far there has been eleven building permits issued.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just showing you just one little example.
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Speaker 1: Just eleven, twelve thousand people lost their homes. You would
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Speaker 1: think if I were a governor, I would I would
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Speaker 1: go in there and handle this thing. I'd make sure
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Speaker 1: that we you know, these people need a place to live.
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Speaker 1: It's not eleven eleven permits. And an actress got up
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Speaker 1: and started squawking about it that you know, this is it.
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Speaker 1: This is our government. You know, it's an emergency and
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Speaker 1: only eleven and all the bureaucracy and the red date,
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Speaker 1: and it just goes on and on and on the
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Speaker 1: system is broken on every level, on every level. And
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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the abortion let's let's switch subjects.
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Speaker 1: You look at the abortion holocaust. One billion people, one
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Speaker 1: billion babies have been slaughtered in their wombs. Since we're
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Speaker 1: a v wade and Trump is starting to go against
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Speaker 1: plan plan butcherhood because that's what it is. Let's not
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Speaker 1: call it planned parenthood because it has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with being a parent, has everything to do with killing
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Speaker 1: as many babies as we possibly can and harvesting the
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Speaker 1: body parts. I mean, this is, this is beyond, This
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Speaker 1: is beyond you know, child sacrifice to Bow three thousand
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Speaker 1: years ago or whatever. This is so far beyond it,
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Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. And I believe the blood of those
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Speaker 1: innocent one billion babies have helped usher in the evil
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Speaker 1: that we see permeating every facet of society on a
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Speaker 1: global level.
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Speaker 2: Like your comment on this idea, do you think the
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Speaker 2: rapture of the church is something like a rescue mission?
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Speaker 2: I mean, you could look at it that way. Talk
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Speaker 2: about that a minute.
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Speaker 1: Well, Noah is a type of the rapture, you know.
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Speaker 1: And what I love about this God tucks him into
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Speaker 1: the ark, you know, the Lord himself. You know, I'll
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Speaker 1: see you later. It's gonna rain. What's rain? You'll find
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Speaker 1: out sooner, right, And so he closes the door and
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Speaker 1: you know, as a sidebar, I gotta tell you this joke.
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Speaker 1: So you know, we've We've got We've got books and
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Speaker 1: DVDs and all this stuff, all of our research. And
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Speaker 1: I was covetching of the Lord. I'll use a modern
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Speaker 1: day colloquialism, but I was convetching and I was going,
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Speaker 1: you know, Lord, nobody cares. The Church doesn't care. Nobody's listening.
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Speaker 1: And I felt the Holy Spirit say, now you know
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Speaker 1: how Noah felt. And I just started cracking up. Nobody cared.
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Speaker 1: He preaches for undge twenty years. Nobody cares, right, So
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Speaker 1: I just laughed and I took that with a greate assault.
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Speaker 1: And I get it. But no is a type of
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Speaker 1: the rapture because before the judgment comes, before the judgment comes,
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Speaker 1: he's taken out a lot. Is a type of the rapture.
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Speaker 1: Before the agels can do anything, It's gonna take a
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Speaker 1: lot out of that whole deal. And that's what he does,
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Speaker 1: you know. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven
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Speaker 1: with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, with
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Speaker 1: the trump of God. The dead and Christ will rise
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Speaker 1: first we hear alive and remain will be caught up
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Speaker 1: our potzle that's what we get rapture from together with
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Speaker 1: those in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
20:28
Speaker 1: And so shall we evermore be with the Lord? You know,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the promise. And you know Darby didn't invent this.
20:35
Speaker 1: I love Lee Brainer's article in this month's Prophecy Watches magazine,
20:40
Speaker 1: Shameless Plug, but it's true. And you know, he just
20:44
Speaker 1: goes to the whole thing with Darby and where he
20:47
Speaker 1: comes up with it. And what people don't realize. You've
20:50
Speaker 1: got the scriptures, and you get the Dark Ages, and
20:54
Speaker 1: you get Augustine coming in in the fourth century, and
20:58
Speaker 1: everything is spiritual and you can no longer read the
21:01
Speaker 1: Bible on pain of death. So everything goes into the
21:06
Speaker 1: Dark Ages for basically a thousand years, all right, And
21:09
Speaker 1: then in fourteen forty two thousand years later, right then
21:13
Speaker 1: you get the printing press. Gutenberg advents the printing press,
21:16
Speaker 1: and so for the first time the common man can
21:19
Speaker 1: read the Bible. Oh wait a minute, not so fast, citizen.
21:22
Speaker 1: So Tyndale translates the Bible in English, and what do
21:26
Speaker 1: they do. They promptly burned him at the stake. So
21:29
Speaker 1: this is where we are, so all Darby Remember this
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Speaker 1: is only a few hundred years after the fact. So
21:35
Speaker 1: Darby has access to the scripture just like we do,
21:39
Speaker 1: just like we do. But the common man has access
21:42
Speaker 1: to the scripture, and he's going, wow. You know, this
21:46
Speaker 1: is a rapture of a church. And then Lee Brandon's work.
21:49
Speaker 1: The early church fathers all believed in a pre tribulation
21:52
Speaker 1: rapture of the church. But most of the church today
21:56
Speaker 1: is a millennial. They don't believe replacement theology. They don't
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Speaker 1: believe in a literal thousand years. We do, and we
22:03
Speaker 1: cling to that. We cling to the rescue mission. That's
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Speaker 1: our blessed hope. You know, you know, Gary, Look, my
22:10
Speaker 1: hand is on the plow. I've written fourteen books, produced
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Speaker 1: a rectored host of thirty four films. You know, we're
22:16
Speaker 1: just about to release Shameless Plug, the new film I'm
22:19
Speaker 1: a Shroud of Torn and the Holy Fire. We're about
22:22
Speaker 1: just about to release it. So I haven't stopped working.
22:25
Speaker 1: Marcella he's an escape artist or not. You know, my
22:28
Speaker 1: hand's on the plow. I'm not looking back. But every day,
22:32
Speaker 1: every single day, I look up and I wonder, today, Lord,
22:36
Speaker 1: is this it? You know, Today's some days are more yeah,
22:42
Speaker 1: dramatic than others. This is true.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of drama, let me read this to you first,
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Speaker 2: Esslonians five.
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Speaker 1: Verse three.
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Speaker 2: For when they shall say no, it's they talking here.
22:56
Speaker 2: For when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden
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Speaker 2: destruction shall come upon them as travail upon a woman
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Speaker 2: with child, and they shall not escape. That describes the
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Speaker 2: environment at the time of the rapture, peace and safety.
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Speaker 2: Now do we not see that today?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what people are calling for. Abo's
23:18
Speaker 1: what people are wanting. But that's not That's not what's
23:23
Speaker 1: happening we are looking at. I mean just the and
23:26
Speaker 1: I know you know of it's just the India Pakistan,
23:29
Speaker 1: you know, conflict here. Is that going to escalate? You know,
23:33
Speaker 1: it seems like it is hopefully cool heads will prevail,
23:36
Speaker 1: But there's no guarantee here. Is that where the nuke
23:39
Speaker 1: goes off and that you know, a nuclear event goes
23:42
Speaker 1: off and these guys show up as our saviors, as
23:45
Speaker 1: our progenitors. Very possible. That's what I believe is going
23:48
Speaker 1: to happen because that changes everything in a nantosecond. And
23:51
Speaker 1: that's how.
23:52
Speaker 2: You're in Holy Saucer model up there brings up another
23:56
Speaker 2: element of the conversation, which is that man is being
24:00
Speaker 2: very carefully instructed these days by a number of video
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Speaker 2: productions concerning ancient aliens shall we use that term, and
24:13
Speaker 2: how they are coming back to save mankind. Basically, that's
24:16
Speaker 2: the bottom line.
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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. And talk about that a minute,
24:21
Speaker 1: that propaganda machine. I see there you go, well, you know,
24:29
Speaker 1: speaking speaking of but I mean, this is the coming
24:31
Speaker 1: great deception. I've been you know me. I mean we've
24:34
Speaker 1: known each other for over one decade, I don't know,
24:38
Speaker 1: getting on twenty years, two decades now, yeah, I mean
24:41
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's almost two decades. Like you said,
24:44
Speaker 1: it's almost two decades. This is the coming great deception.
24:48
Speaker 1: When they show up, I mean, this changes everything, and
24:51
Speaker 1: it does it in a nanosecond, you know, And it's
24:53
Speaker 1: a global event. It's not just momental UFO over Washington, DC.
24:57
Speaker 1: It's my oy craft over the cities of the world.
25:00
Speaker 1: And it happens like that, and all of a sudden,
25:03
Speaker 1: because of the Internet, because of the satellite communication network
25:07
Speaker 1: that's already in place, the entire globe experiences this collectively
25:12
Speaker 1: at all at the same time, and that starts to
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Speaker 1: one world government, and I believe, and you've heard me
25:17
Speaker 1: talk about this. At a nuclear event is what their
25:20
Speaker 1: trigger is. So when we go up, there's the little
25:25
Speaker 1: La Marzouli going up. We go up. I love the
25:30
Speaker 1: props I have, they come down. I'll do it one
25:33
Speaker 1: more time we go up, they come down. I like it.
25:39
Speaker 1: We will save that one. Not having fun with it anyway.
25:43
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about maybe some of the objections to
25:47
Speaker 2: a pre tribulation raptor. I've heard a lot of believers
25:53
Speaker 2: say that the wrath of God lies just ahead of us,
25:57
Speaker 2: and the wrath of God upon this earth is judgment
26:00
Speaker 2: Day is going to subsume everybody on the planet, including
26:05
Speaker 2: the Church. And you've heard that kind of argumentation as well.
26:11
Speaker 2: So how do you react to someone who says God's
26:16
Speaker 2: judgment is near and we're going through it.
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Speaker 1: We're the bride of Christ. We're the bride of Christ,
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Speaker 1: bride of the Messiah, bride of the anointed One, the
26:28
Speaker 1: bride of Jesus. That didn't exist two thousand years ago. No,
26:33
Speaker 1: there was no bride of Christ two thousand years ago
26:37
Speaker 1: until he came and he died, and now it's in scripture.
26:41
Speaker 1: We are the bride, and as Bob Ulrick likes to say,
26:44
Speaker 1: a bloodied bride. What's the point of that? You know?
26:47
Speaker 1: And Revelation chapter three that you will escape all the
26:51
Speaker 1: things coming upon the earth because you have been faithful.
26:54
Speaker 1: We're faithful, you know, and I get it. You know
26:56
Speaker 1: when you really look at the collective church, you know
26:59
Speaker 1: they just elected a new pope a couple of days ago, right,
27:02
Speaker 1: and he's a millennial all day long. He doesn't believe
27:06
Speaker 1: in the prophecy concerning Israel, so he's not the enemy,
27:10
Speaker 1: but he's clueless. Because unless a person embraces the prophetic
27:14
Speaker 1: language and not spiritualize everything and stop and throw replacement
27:20
Speaker 1: theology out the window, good luck on trying to figure
27:23
Speaker 1: out anything, they're never going to get there. We're not
27:26
Speaker 1: appointed to wrath. We are not appointed to the wrath
27:29
Speaker 1: because we are the bride of Christ, which was not
27:33
Speaker 1: there in any of the Old Testament times. It's alluded
27:37
Speaker 1: to in some places, you alluded to, but not like
27:41
Speaker 1: in your face, the bride of Messiah, the bride of Christ.
27:45
Speaker 1: We are the bride. And something else that happened on
27:49
Speaker 1: the day of Pentecost, which again unprecedented, when the spirit
27:55
Speaker 1: of a living God came into the apostles and the
27:58
Speaker 1: women who were there, all those people. For the first
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Speaker 1: time in history, the spirit of a living God in dwelt,
28:05
Speaker 1: the people in dwelt the people. That's unprecedented. So not
28:10
Speaker 1: only are we born again in spirit filled, but we're
28:13
Speaker 1: the bride of Christ. So how can God, you know,
28:18
Speaker 1: pour his wrath on you and me when we have
28:21
Speaker 1: a spirit of Him. That didn't happen until Pentecost.
28:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, John fourteen, and we all memorized this one. Let
28:30
Speaker 2: not your heart be troubled, says Jesus. You believe in God,
28:33
Speaker 2: believe also in me in my father's house or many mansions.
28:37
Speaker 2: And if it were not so, I would have told
28:40
Speaker 2: you I go prepare a place for you. And if
28:44
Speaker 2: I go and prepare a place for you, and this
28:47
Speaker 2: is what you're talking about, I'll come again receive you
28:50
Speaker 2: unto myself, that where I am, you may be also,
28:54
Speaker 2: And whither I go you know, And the way you know,
29:00
Speaker 2: and we do. I think in our heart of hearts,
29:02
Speaker 2: led by the spirit, we know where he went, we
29:06
Speaker 2: know where he's coming from, and we know that we're
29:08
Speaker 2: going to be where he is, probably in the near future.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it might be. Look I'm out a
29:14
Speaker 1: dat center, but more of than likely next Wednesday. And
29:16
Speaker 1: I say that, you know, tony and cheek, But.
29:20
Speaker 2: It would have bothered me at one point if you
29:22
Speaker 2: had said, but it doesn't anymore, No, I hear you.
29:26
Speaker 1: I just you know, folks believe which you want to believe.
29:30
Speaker 1: And it's all there in scripture. We back it up.
29:32
Speaker 1: This entire little you know, get together that we're having.
29:35
Speaker 1: But it's it's our blessed hope because the wrath of
29:39
Speaker 1: God is I mean, read the bold judgments, read the seals,
29:44
Speaker 1: I mean, read the whole thing that's coming down, you know,
29:46
Speaker 1: read the fact that you know, billions of people are
29:50
Speaker 1: going to die. Understand that the theory on the beasts
29:54
Speaker 1: of the earth are are let loose on the inhabitants
29:58
Speaker 1: of the earth, I mean, the sea, the I mean
30:02
Speaker 1: it's this is the wrath of God. And you say, well,
30:04
Speaker 1: why would God do this? Well, just look around. Look
30:07
Speaker 1: at the one billion aborted babies for starters, look at
30:10
Speaker 1: the anti the you know, think about the opening ceremony
30:14
Speaker 1: to the Olympics where they mocked the Last Supper. And
30:18
Speaker 1: I wrote wrote an article on the Prophecy watched his
30:21
Speaker 1: magazine about this. They mocked the Last Supper with transgenders
30:25
Speaker 1: and Jesus was a female and all this other stuff.
30:28
Speaker 1: You know, you guys can think what you want to think.
30:30
Speaker 1: We're going to love on you no matter what. There's
30:32
Speaker 1: no hate coming from this. But you know, you're taking
30:34
Speaker 1: something which is dear to millions of Christians worldwide and
30:38
Speaker 1: you're mocking it, and you're doing it openly. And as
30:41
Speaker 1: you know, God can only get poked in the eye
30:44
Speaker 1: for so long and then it's like enough enough, And
30:47
Speaker 1: I think we are nearing the time where he goes
30:52
Speaker 1: this is it. You crossed the line. Church comes up
30:55
Speaker 1: and we start the seven years. You know, let's talk
30:59
Speaker 1: about a pre Trier rapture. It's being argued right now,
31:03
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen that happen for many years, but
31:06
Speaker 1: it's rotated back around to the point that there's quite
31:10
Speaker 1: a debate about the pre trib rapture. And when you
31:13
Speaker 1: read Revelation I'm holding my Bible up here, and Revelation
31:16
Speaker 1: three is the seven Churches, and I love Revelation four
31:22
Speaker 1: after this, that's after the display of the seven churches,
31:26
Speaker 1: says John Behold the door was open in heaven. The
31:29
Speaker 1: first voice which I heard was, as it were, a
31:31
Speaker 1: trumpet talking with me, which said, come up hither, and
31:35
Speaker 1: I will show that the things which must be hereafter
31:39
Speaker 1: now to me, that's the trumpet we're going to hear.
31:43
Speaker 1: One and the same. John is an illustration, I believe,
31:46
Speaker 1: of what's going to happen to the church. And what
31:49
Speaker 1: does he see when he gets to heaven. He sees
31:52
Speaker 1: the seating of the elders, the disposition of the church,
31:56
Speaker 1: and then the lamb of God brings out the sealed book,
31:59
Speaker 1: which is a I believe it's a sealed indictment. And
32:04
Speaker 1: as the seven seals are opened and this and the
32:07
Speaker 1: scroll is red. It is an indictment against planet Earth.
32:12
Speaker 1: And it is the precursor to judgment. And you and
32:17
Speaker 1: I are going to be there watching watching this from Heaven,
32:21
Speaker 1: not Earth, and la that is. I can just feel
32:25
Speaker 1: how close that is, you know, it's it's I mean,
32:29
Speaker 1: how I talk to some people all you've been saying
32:33
Speaker 1: this for decades, and you know, but it's wait a second,
32:36
Speaker 1: wait a second. We are if you were to plot
32:40
Speaker 1: the amount of earthquakes and volcanic activity and wars and
32:44
Speaker 1: rumors of wars and famines and pestilence. From let's say
32:47
Speaker 1: the twentieth century till now. People have done this, the
32:50
Speaker 1: curve goes up. Everything is accelerating, and then you get
32:54
Speaker 1: the Internet, which we've never had before. You know, you
32:56
Speaker 1: go back thirty forty years. I mean it was there,
32:58
Speaker 1: but not like it is today.
33:00
Speaker 2: Either way, the Internet isn't the Internet anymore. With the
33:03
Speaker 2: advent of AI, the Internet is going to become something
33:07
Speaker 2: I think terribly frightening.
33:09
Speaker 1: Well, I agree, what's happening? I agree? What was it?
33:14
Speaker 1: Just this week a robot which is powered by AI
33:18
Speaker 1: was disturbed and then started attacking it's it's maker. Yeah,
33:24
Speaker 1: what's that about? How does that work? And people who
33:27
Speaker 1: have had contact with AI and said, this is demonic,
33:30
Speaker 1: this is Frankenstein. It is it really is. So you know,
33:35
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're looking at, but I mean, surely,
33:38
Speaker 1: surely he has got to come soon and take us
33:40
Speaker 1: out of here. Now.
33:43
Speaker 2: This week, we have a number of discussions among the
33:49
Speaker 2: leaders in Europe, we have discussions among the leaders in
33:52
Speaker 2: the Middle East. We have Erdowan you mentioned Turkey a
33:55
Speaker 2: minute ago. We have putin and we have an ongoing war.
34:00
Speaker 2: There's just enough tension in the right places that I
34:04
Speaker 2: don't think there's much stability anymore. And I believe that
34:08
Speaker 2: Christians should be in prayer these days, not only for
34:12
Speaker 2: the piece of Jerusalem, not only for the peace of
34:15
Speaker 2: the world, but for the strengthening of.
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Speaker 1: I and I agree. You know, we're admonished to pray
34:25
Speaker 1: for the piece of Jerusalem. And you know, let's go
34:28
Speaker 1: back before nineteen forty eight. Well, why should I pray
34:31
Speaker 1: for the piece of Jerusalem? Nobody cares. You know, there's
34:33
Speaker 1: hardly anybody there. You know, you go back into the
34:36
Speaker 1: days of Mark Twain, you know, Samuel Clemens and he's there.
34:40
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a ghost town essentially. I mean,
34:43
Speaker 1: even the Graham Mufti of Jerusalem, I think it's nineteen
34:45
Speaker 1: nineteen stated, oh, the Temple mounts, that's you know, that's
34:49
Speaker 1: that's always been the Jews built out, blah blah blah.
34:52
Speaker 1: And then just a few decades later, well wait a minute,
34:54
Speaker 1: no they didn't. You know, this is ours, and on
34:58
Speaker 1: and on it goes. So you know, Jerusalem has become
35:02
Speaker 1: a cup of trembling, and that ain't going away anytime soon.
35:06
Speaker 1: It's not. The tension is palpable over throughout the Middle East,
35:10
Speaker 1: and they have not let up on Hamas. They are
35:14
Speaker 1: going They're going to go in and completely wipe out Gaza,
35:18
Speaker 1: and they need to do that. They need to eradicate
35:20
Speaker 1: Hamas to the last man. And that sounds like well, gla,
35:24
Speaker 1: that sounds like genocide. Excuse me. Hamas would surrender anytime
35:28
Speaker 1: they want to, and they don't, and they still hold
35:32
Speaker 1: the hostages.
35:33
Speaker 2: And here we are, and after the rapture, going into
35:39
Speaker 2: the tribulation, a number of seals begin to be opened,
35:44
Speaker 2: and they are all directed toward initiating the various aspects
35:51
Speaker 2: of wars to come, and not just wars, but human
35:57
Speaker 2: misery on a scale that's difficult to imagine. And I
36:02
Speaker 2: just you know, anybody who's listening to this conversation right now,
36:05
Speaker 2: I would just say, look, think again, if you have
36:09
Speaker 2: not received the Lord Jesus Christ, because he is going
36:13
Speaker 2: to come and rescue his people before this horrific time
36:19
Speaker 2: engages planet Earth.
36:23
Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, And I think we're close, very very close.
36:28
Speaker 1: So how would we wrap this up? Give me your
36:34
Speaker 1: view on and by the way, you've just finished a
36:39
Speaker 1: pretty extensive study on the UFO matter, which I believe
36:47
Speaker 1: is bigger than a lot of people think it is.
36:50
Speaker 1: It's not only a propaganda mill to teach humanity to
36:58
Speaker 1: love demonology, which basically the UFO phenomenon happens to be.
37:04
Speaker 1: It's not only a propaganda machine, but I think it's
37:07
Speaker 1: a war machine. I think Satan is getting ready to
37:10
Speaker 1: launch the big war that is described in Revelation. And
37:16
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's this thing has been you know,
37:21
Speaker 1: let me just back up. If you go to nineteen
37:22
Speaker 1: forty five, you get Hiroshima and Nagasaki, unprecedented event in
37:27
Speaker 1: all of history, the two atomic explosions in Japan, Hiroshima
37:31
Speaker 1: Nagasaki nineteen forty seven. You get the Roswell crash which
37:36
Speaker 1: is in Roswell. And for those of you who think
37:38
Speaker 1: that it wasn't a crash, this is a piece of
37:40
Speaker 1: metal from the actual debris site. And we've looked at
37:44
Speaker 1: it under a scanning electron microscope and it's an aluminum alloy,
37:49
Speaker 1: but it really doesn't match anything that we have. It's
37:51
Speaker 1: like right in between. More study needs to be done
37:54
Speaker 1: on it. But we were the only film crew that's
37:57
Speaker 1: ever ever shown on film that actually coming out of
38:01
Speaker 1: the Earth. And that's what we show. We were there
38:03
Speaker 1: in the debris field. So forty five Heroshima, Nagasaki. Then
38:07
Speaker 1: you get forty seven the Roswell event. Well, why Roswell
38:12
Speaker 1: the fire Well ninth Bombing Group, which is the bombing
38:14
Speaker 1: group that dropped the two atomic bombs on Nagasaki and
38:18
Speaker 1: Hiroshima is stationed in Roswell, New Mexico. So you got
38:21
Speaker 1: forty five the atomic bombs, forty seven Roswell, forty eight,
38:26
Speaker 1: you get the you get the rebirth of Israel. And
38:31
Speaker 1: this is where the entire modern day UFO phenomena takes
38:35
Speaker 1: off in ways that are unprecedented. Cattle mutilations, flybys over
38:41
Speaker 1: the Capitol, you know, lights in the sky, abductions, Benny
38:45
Speaker 1: and Barney Hill, the whole UFO phenomena just takes off
38:49
Speaker 1: like this. And now you've got engine aliens what's been
38:52
Speaker 1: going on for like what fifteen years, which you know,
38:54
Speaker 1: these are our progenitors, these are our saviors. And this
38:58
Speaker 1: is folks, this is coming great deception. This is it
39:02
Speaker 1: right here, right here, This changes everything.
39:06
Speaker 2: And what a quote unquote coincidence that all of this
39:10
Speaker 2: happened in perfect synchronization with the rebirth, the Regathering and
39:15
Speaker 2: the rebirth of Israel nineteen forty seven. It's just like clockwork.
39:21
Speaker 2: La Satan I think is an evil persona, but he
39:28
Speaker 2: is not all powerful. He has to go along with
39:33
Speaker 2: a schedule which is ordained by and that schedule is
39:37
Speaker 2: built around Israel. And I think that's the reason why
39:41
Speaker 2: the UFO phenomenon has proceeded the way it has.
39:45
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you one hundred and ten percent absolutely.
39:49
Speaker 2: So as we come close to the end of our
39:53
Speaker 2: time here, your book is out. What would you like
39:58
Speaker 2: people to glean from from your book? I mean, I
40:01
Speaker 2: know it's from your heart because I've watched you put
40:03
Speaker 2: it together. And what should people be gleaning from this?
40:08
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the whole part of Rungs of Disclosure.
40:11
Speaker 1: This is at number fourteen. It's interactive when you go
40:13
Speaker 1: to rungsidisclosure dot com. This the book only has seventeen,
40:19
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen rungs. It was published last October. Well,
40:23
Speaker 1: since then, we're up to run twenty one. We are
40:26
Speaker 1: up to number twenty run on the rung so we
40:29
Speaker 1: keep going up towards full disclosure. What I want people
40:32
Speaker 1: to understand, you need to get three copies, one for
40:36
Speaker 1: you and your loved ones, one to give to your
40:38
Speaker 1: best friend, and one to give to your pastor. And
40:40
Speaker 1: you know we've had all sorts of specials to try
40:42
Speaker 1: to do that. Go to our site, go to your
40:44
Speaker 1: site on prophecy watchers, because this is a coming great deception.
40:48
Speaker 1: And if this isn't it, then you tell me what
40:51
Speaker 1: it is, because this is how you create a one
40:54
Speaker 1: world religious system and a one rold government. And they've
40:57
Speaker 1: been laying down the foundations of it. Now the halls
41:00
Speaker 1: of Congress are talking about it. We have crashed craft
41:05
Speaker 1: in our possession. We have the bodies of the pilots.
41:09
Speaker 2: I'm not engineering, by the way, which by the way,
41:13
Speaker 2: would make people sway more towards the opinion that, well,
41:19
Speaker 2: these things are from Zeta reticular, some outer space location
41:22
Speaker 2: a few hundred light years away. They're not from around here,
41:26
Speaker 2: and they're certainly not demons. What do you say to
41:28
Speaker 2: people like that, You.
41:29
Speaker 1: Know, you need to do your homework, And basically what
41:32
Speaker 1: I say, well, if they aren't what you think, if
41:35
Speaker 1: they are what you think they are, is it okay
41:37
Speaker 1: to abduct a five year old boy and implant them
41:39
Speaker 1: with a metal chip is that okay? And never no
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Speaker 1: one ever goes, well, that's really not okay because it's not.
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Speaker 1: But that's what they do. And there's a sexual component
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Speaker 1: to it, which ties back in the Genesis free fifteen.
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Speaker 1: And you were the one that illuminated that to myself
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Speaker 1: and rust Isdar in Chief, Joseph everyone way back in
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Speaker 1: the Nephilom conference that we did in Ohio. I'll never forget.
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Speaker 1: It changed my life. And that breeding program Genesis three
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Speaker 1: fifteen is what's going on today. Jump forward to Daniel
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Speaker 1: two forty three. Their seed will mingle with the seed
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Speaker 1: of men, but there's there's no marriage there, which is
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Speaker 1: exactly what we're seeing again.
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Speaker 2: It's a prophesied their seed mingled with the seed of men.
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Speaker 2: How can you read past that without stopping and taking
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Speaker 2: a good long What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: When I just read who are they? Who are human being? So?
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Speaker 1: Who are they?
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Speaker 2: And why are they trying to destroy the human geno?
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Speaker 2: And how will that all work out? Well, la, I
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Speaker 2: think you and I have talked about it for a while,
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Speaker 2: you've written about it. I think you've put a pretty
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Speaker 2: good cap on it, but it hasn't quit yet.
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Speaker 1: The phenomenon is proceeding. Yes it is. Yes, it is
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Speaker 1: real versioning and not going away.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to ask you for a date
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Speaker 2: of the rapture, which, by the way, for those of
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Speaker 2: you listening, is kind of an inside joke because La
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Speaker 2: and I always ask each other if we've figured out
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Speaker 2: the data of the raptor. That's the first greeting out
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Speaker 2: of our right, and we know that Christians shouldn't be
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Speaker 2: involved with things like that, because you'll never figure out
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Speaker 2: the date of the raptor. On the other hand, it's exciting.
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Speaker 2: We live in wonderful times and there's not much time
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Speaker 2: left to make your decision for Christ and get on
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Speaker 2: board because a memory escape is coming soon, right.
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Speaker 1: And it is the great escape, and we're those of
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Speaker 1: us who look forward to it and love the Lord
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Speaker 1: and his appearance and look forward to is coming. That's
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Speaker 1: that's it, our blessed hope.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a sheet of paper here that I've
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Speaker 2: written up. It has forty reasons for a pre tribulation rapture.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm not going to read all forty of them.
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Speaker 2: In fact, we've come to the end of our time.
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Speaker 2: But I thought I would leave this little dangling idea
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Speaker 2: here that hey, a lot of people who have studied
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Speaker 2: the Bible have seen this rapture is not a side event.
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Speaker 2: It is central to the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: I agree, as we leave today, you want to say
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Speaker 2: a word or two about that.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the rapture of a church once again,
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Speaker 1: wasn't no one knew about that till it was written
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Speaker 1: in a New Testament. I mean, it's alluded to, but
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Speaker 1: it's very clear that we're not a part of the wrath,
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Speaker 1: that we're going to be up with him to greet
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Speaker 1: the Lord in the air. And those promises are there
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Speaker 1: because we are the bride of Christ, which didn't exist
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Speaker 1: until after the CRUs Fiction and then Pentecosts when the
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Speaker 1: Spirit comes in. So we're the bride of Christ. We're
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Speaker 1: going up, will rise first always.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to La Marzouli. I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers,
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Speaker 2: and as we depart today, give us a good word
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Speaker 2: from La Marzouli.
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Speaker 1: A good word. Well, folks keep looking up, because as
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Speaker 1: Gary says, we are.
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Speaker 2: Amen, and we'll see you soon. I'm Gary Steerman. This
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Speaker 2: is Prophecy Watchers