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- 0:38Speaker 1: about a drink so special it's got a trademark, the
- 0:42Speaker 1: trademark drink, yes, sir, and a very special rum. All right,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I have a feeling I know what it is, but
- 0:47Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away, but I will
- 0:49Speaker 1: just say that this has to do also with the
- 0:51Speaker 1: story of a two hundred plus year old family business.
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- 5:00Speaker 1: Hayes along with PM Fox were broadcasting live from Elbow Beach, Bermuda.
- 5:04Speaker 1: This is a gorgeous ocean front enclave, classic style, contemporary luxury,
- 5:10Speaker 1: great food and great drinks, which brings us in a
- 5:12Speaker 1: certain sense to our very special guest joining us now
- 5:16Speaker 1: here in Bermuda. Uh the seventh generation to run a
- 5:21Speaker 1: two d old company, her daughter eighth generation taking over
- 5:25Speaker 1: as marketing manager. We're talking about Nancy Gosling. She's president
- 5:30Speaker 1: and CEO of Gosling's group of companies, and her daughter
- 5:33Speaker 1: Victoria Esposito, who has just taken over in the last
- 5:36Speaker 1: couple of years as marketing manager for this world renowned
- 5:39Speaker 1: rum company. Ladies, welcome you both to the show. Thank
- 5:43Speaker 1: you so. Nancy, first of all, tell people the history
- 5:46Speaker 1: of this company. You're over two hundred years old. Started
- 5:49Speaker 1: out when James Gosling to England in eighteen six, honestly
- 5:53Speaker 1: to America, but stopped Bermuda and started this company. Yes, well,
- 5:57Speaker 1: he actually started the sailing vessel and they were becalmed
- 6:01Speaker 1: and the charter round out. They had over ten thousand
- 6:04Speaker 1: pounds worth of lines and spirits on board then, which
- 6:08Speaker 1: is a lot of alcohol in eighteen o six. It's
- 6:12Speaker 1: oh anniversity on to twenty when they landed and uh,
- 6:17Speaker 1: they found a business here with the British Navy and
- 6:21Speaker 1: set up shop in St. George's and kind of never
- 6:24Speaker 1: looked back. Victoria, I wonder if you could comment on this. Uh,
- 6:29Speaker 1: seems to be a craze almost in the world of
- 6:31Speaker 1: brown spirits. Everyone seems to want a brown spirit of
- 6:34Speaker 1: some kind, and those that have it want to maybe
- 6:37Speaker 1: keep it exclusive. For example, it was the story today
- 6:40Speaker 1: about brown Form and they make Jack Daniels Tennessee whiskey
- 6:44Speaker 1: that they may be looking to sell the Finland via
- 6:47Speaker 1: uh you know brand Have you noticed that because you
- 6:52Speaker 1: have those different color grazes. Yea, So I mean liquor
- 6:56Speaker 1: trends always changing, which makes an interesting business. Persis Bermuda
- 7:01Speaker 1: as a market is interesting because we are so close
- 7:03Speaker 1: to the States, so we get a lot of those
- 7:05Speaker 1: trends reflecting here in Bermuda. And we have noticed a
- 7:08Speaker 1: change to brown spirits in the past two years, which
- 7:11Speaker 1: is a great thing for our rum because we are
- 7:13Speaker 1: always trying to keep up with a recent trends. But
- 7:16Speaker 1: at the same time, the white spirits they continue to
- 7:19Speaker 1: thrive like they do. But it's really interesting even to
- 7:22Speaker 1: see a lot of the old fashioned cocktails coming back,
- 7:25Speaker 1: which go great with our rum and our old rum
- 7:27Speaker 1: which we always push well. And I I the gosling
- 7:32Speaker 1: that I first got acquainted with has a very rich,
- 7:35Speaker 1: almost lacessey kind of flavor. And yes, you have a
- 7:37Speaker 1: lot of when you've got a lot of the dark
- 7:39Speaker 1: and stormy. I don't know if a lot of people
- 7:41Speaker 1: realize that they're pathic formuta, if they don't drink them
- 7:43Speaker 1: back in the States, that it is a trade mark drink.
- 7:46Speaker 1: And if you don't use glassing room, somebody's gonna come
- 7:49Speaker 1: knock it on your door. It's a simple recipe. It's
- 7:53Speaker 1: Gosling's black Field Rum and ginger beer. Uh the ginger
- 7:58Speaker 1: beer part isn't trademark, but we now have Gosling's Ginger Beer,
- 8:02Speaker 1: which is selling very well worldwide at the moment, and
- 8:06Speaker 1: we design that who goes specifically with our room. It's
- 8:10Speaker 1: the perfect match for a dark story. But a lot
- 8:13Speaker 1: of people aren't aware that it is a trademark, So
- 8:16Speaker 1: we spend a bit of time defending our trademark. But
- 8:20Speaker 1: it's worth the defense. Can you give us a little
- 8:23Speaker 1: sort of story about where the sugar cane is grown
- 8:26Speaker 1: and how it ends up tasting so uh so lovely
- 8:30Speaker 1: in a in a Gostling concoction. No, alright, those the
- 8:37Speaker 1: sources and the blending is what makes us unique. But
- 8:42Speaker 1: I mean people know that that the dark Rum comes
- 8:47Speaker 1: from sugarcane which goes into molasses which is then aged
- 8:51Speaker 1: and barrels, and uh, we source from different locations, but
- 8:56Speaker 1: that's very important to your The proprietary aspect of that
- 8:59Speaker 1: is something that you hold very close absolutely. How much
- 9:03Speaker 1: is the trademark on the drink of marketing strategy and
- 9:07Speaker 1: how and or how important is it that people can
- 9:09Speaker 1: only use scuffling room in a dark and stormy Technically speaking, anyway,
- 9:12Speaker 1: it's very important because as the years go on, more
- 9:15Speaker 1: and more spirits keep being introduced into the market. So
- 9:18Speaker 1: it's very important for us to defend that certain cocktail,
- 9:21Speaker 1: especially since, especially on the East Coast of the United States,
- 9:25Speaker 1: the Dark and Stormy is becoming very well known and
- 9:27Speaker 1: very popular. So it's important to us to defend that
- 9:30Speaker 1: and make sure that people know that it is to
- 9:32Speaker 1: be made with gausing black Seal rum. Now why is
- 9:36Speaker 1: it called black seal Because when we first started battoling rum,
- 9:42Speaker 1: it was difficult to obtain bottles and we didn't have
- 9:46Speaker 1: a sophisticated bottling line or anything like that. We used
- 9:50Speaker 1: to reuse old champagne bottles. We used to sterilize and
- 9:55Speaker 1: and that's what we bottled our products in. And we
- 9:58Speaker 1: had several types of products. They were bottled in old
- 10:04Speaker 1: champagne bottles and then they were sealed with ceiling wabs,
- 10:08Speaker 1: and we had a red seal, a blue seal, a
- 10:11Speaker 1: black seal, and the black Seal rum. That blend was
- 10:15Speaker 1: the most popular. And when we were finally able to
- 10:18Speaker 1: obtain bottles and do our own packaging and labeling. It
- 10:22Speaker 1: was my uncle actually who decided that the black ceiling
- 10:27Speaker 1: wax should turn into this seal. He made that and
- 10:32Speaker 1: that's why our old rum is packaged like it is
- 10:35Speaker 1: now in a Champagne type bottle with ceiling black ceiling
- 10:39Speaker 1: wax on it. It's it's supposed to replicate the original rum. Well,
- 10:43Speaker 1: it certainly creates the original feeling. Thank you very much
- 10:46Speaker 1: for spending time with us. Nancy Goslings, the President, chief
- 10:49Speaker 1: executive Gosling's Group Companies, and Victoria Esposito, the marketing manager
- 10:54Speaker 1: of a Gosling's Group of companies. You're listening to Taking
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