Latest / The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine / Top 5 2023 Furnace Fest Moments
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- 0:01Ya, Hey, guys, how's it going. My name is Mason Menaga.
- 0:32I'm a controversial spiritual podcaster, and today you are listening to the black
- 0:37Sheet Podcast with me, my buddy Colin, and our best friend Austin Visser
- 0:42from The Undertaking. How are you doing today, guys? We're doing great,
- 0:46doing great. You know, it's great to not be a megachurch pastor
- 0:49anymore. Uh, and just you know, trying to make it as a
- 0:53band. You know, the uh, you know, the very lucrative life
- 0:56decision of going from megachurch pastoring to being in a small hardcore band so much
- 1:02fun. It was a really great decision that my wife really loves. I
- 1:08love this bit. We gotta keep it going. It's just it's a slippery
- 1:14slope. It's gonna turn into a roast. Am I am? I free
- 1:19from getting roasted right now? I think you are careful. I'm not controversial
- 1:26enough, and I'm okay with that. You're just a little small town school
- 1:30teacher, That's right, Austin. You're basically at this point, like you
- 1:38you really truly are like the host like of the Black Sheet podcast, Like
- 1:42at this point, like Cullen shouldn't even be the host, like it really
- 1:46just as you. Yeah. So there's three things going through my head.
- 1:49One it's the scene from like Captain Phillips with Tom Cruise where the guys like,
- 1:53look at me time they Captain. Now, like that's me or one.
- 1:59The other the good and the bad is one. I'm like such an
- 2:02easy get and so desperate to just be on a podcast that you guys could
- 2:07call me anytime and I'm like, I'll make you're You're our black sheep booty
- 2:10call. Yeah, or we are just good enough friends at this point that
- 2:16this is a genuine like let's hang out and recap a rad weekend. So
- 2:22instead of it you just being a good friend, I want to think of
- 2:24you as just a black sheep booty call. Can I think of you more
- 2:28more of that than being just a good friend? Yeah? Undertaking girls are
- 2:30easy as long as their name is awesome Visser. Fun fact, there are
- 2:36no female fans of the Undertake. Actually that's not true. That's a disrespectful
- 2:39thing to say about the women that do listen to us. I wasn't talking
- 2:43about the women that listened to you. I was talking about you. Okay,
- 2:47all right, later, guys, since Austin is learning how to be
- 2:54a black sheep post. I probably should introduce the episode of what We're to
- 3:00do today? Right? Oh yeah, So Austin just played his fucking life
- 3:06out at furnace Fest and that happened to be the festival we were just at.
- 3:10Two. So we got to hang out with Austin over this last weekend
- 3:15and it was a such a good time, such a good time seeing Austin
- 3:20for the first time in person, and you know, being able to just
- 3:23hang out with lots of friends. It was a good time. And so
- 3:27the other day I was like, you know what, Austin was at furnace
- 3:30FESTIV whole weekend. Colin was at furnace FESTIV whole weekend, and I was
- 3:34at furnace Festival whole weekend. We should just do a little recap with all
- 3:38all of us and chat about all the fun things that we saw at furnace
- 3:42Fest, all the fun things that we did at furnace Fest. And so
- 3:45that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do our top five top five things,
- 3:49not necessarily moments, top five things at furnace Fest twenty twenty three,
- 3:53furnace Fest and so we'll just kind of go in order, and I'm sure
- 3:57we're gonna have some crossover some things that we all like and that we have
- 4:00in common. But yeah, I'm just fun to It's gonna be a fun
- 4:03time to just reminisce on what a great weekend it was, right, That's
- 4:08right. Yeah, I'm gonna cheat. So I'm gonna have like twenty five
- 4:12things. That's like twenty more than we said. You're just gonna have a
- 4:19long honorable mentions list. Yes, first and foremost, Hey, it was
- 4:24great meeting you guys in person. One of the more one of the more
- 4:28fascinating things about being a band these days is all these interviews, and like
- 4:31we don't tour a ton, so there's just so many pockets of the country
- 4:34that we haven't actually met people other than online. And I think I'm like
- 4:39at this at this point, I'm like obsessed with just meeting these people that
- 4:43I've talked to. And for you guys, like when we met each other
- 4:46face to face, it was like, man, I feel like we've done
- 4:49this before, but we we have it, and I don't know, it's
- 4:53really special to me. So anyways, you're definitely shorter in person. Than
- 4:57I thought you were. Are you lying? I said the opposite. Yeah,
- 5:01I thought that you were gonna You know, I thought the camera put
- 5:03on ten pounds. It's not true, Thank you, thank not true.
- 5:09Wow, Colin is just so flattering to you, Austin. That's right.
- 5:12I'm I'm six foot three, two hundred and twenty pounds. Guys, I'm
- 5:15I'm a large human being. You're a tank. You're a middle linebacker.
- 5:18I was. I wish I could have been a tight end. I was
- 5:20a I was a guard, lefty shooting guard and left handed pitcher back in
- 5:27high school and never played football. But you're putting tall guard. Yeah.
- 5:31I was like the James. I'm like the white James Harden because I can
- 5:33get to the hoop. I got a long arms. Did you have the
- 5:36Did you have that beard back then? Too? No? No? No.
- 5:41Also, that has been drift that you're drinking right now. Yeah,
- 5:45I love that ship. That stuff is so good. Yeah, it's delicious.
- 5:47It's too early to drink. Usually we're drinking on this podcast, but
- 5:50I have to pick up my kids from school after this. I've got some
- 5:54gin and soda going on right now. All right, Well, is that
- 5:57your number one. Is that your or at least the first one you're gonna
- 6:00mention, it's just me. Yeah, I'll claim that as my number one.
- 6:03For us as a small little band in San Diego, for so many
- 6:06people to be able to come up to the booth and for us to be
- 6:09able to meet them in person and be able to hang out like it is
- 6:13so exhausting because we're just on all weekend and from the start, from when
- 6:16we show up to Ghost Train to kind of just see what was going on
- 6:21and there was a band playing already, just starting to see people that we
- 6:26knew and people coming up that we're like, we're at your Philly show a
- 6:30couple months ago, and you just have to like pull in this mental role
- 6:33in decks of being like, oh yeah, I totally remember you, thanks
- 6:35for saying hi. And then now I'm actually kicking myself because there's a lot
- 6:40of people that I know online that we're there, but you guys didn't say
- 6:45hi. And so my challenge now, next time, I need to be
- 6:47like very specific, like if we know each other on Facebook or Twitter or
- 6:51Instagram, like, please come up to me and say hi, Like I
- 6:54genuinely want to meet people and you might also be like, hey, my
- 6:58screen name is this, because that's why it might be like the thing that
- 7:00clicks anyway, So that's a huge highlight for us. It was so cool.
- 7:04So and we were able to have that merch booth all weekend, so
- 7:08we got to have like a home base where people could come by and hang
- 7:12out. So that was cool. Yeah. I also loved that. First
- 7:15of all, your show was amazing. I'm glad that we got to see
- 7:18that and it kicked out everything off for us. That was awesome. The
- 7:23other thing I liked is that it seemed like, I mean, you never
- 7:26would have guessed that you were a band that got voted in and kind of
- 7:30sort of last minute, right. You were not like perceived that way.
- 7:34Like everyone that I talked to was like, yeah, the Undertaking was really
- 7:39damn good, Like they were really really excited about it, and other other
- 7:43bands I talked to were like, dude, awesome, this was like the
- 7:46coolest guy. He's a nice guy. Uh, the Undertaking, How how
- 7:48can they be so nice? I was like, I don't know, they're
- 7:50kind of dicksed us, but it is what it is. Uh. You
- 7:55know. It's interesting about that is we actually had a conversation, and this
- 7:59is a little bit of like an inside baseball kind of thing with the band.
- 8:01As soon as we won that contest, we were just one of the
- 8:05ninety bands at Furnace Best. Like we were on that flyer, we were
- 8:11on that roster. We were no less than anybody else. And at like
- 8:16even on my I don't I don't talk a lot on stage because you guys
- 8:20aren't there to hear me crack jokes. You're here to watch my band play
- 8:22and go crazy on stage. And even at some point, like I was
- 8:26going to dedicate yes to like, hey, this song goes out to the
- 8:30people that voted for us, But then let's just say, like, you
- 8:33know, four hundred people voted for us, and of all the people at
- 8:37the festival, there's like five thousand people there, Like that's a fraction of
- 8:41the people. And so as soon as I say, hey, thanks for
- 8:43voting for us, then like a lot of people in the audience kind of
- 8:46like tilt their head and he's like, what are you talking about? And
- 8:50then for them they might be like, oh they were they were just voted
- 8:52in, or oh they're like there's a lot of different actions to that so
- 8:54a little bit of inside baseball is as soon as we're voted in to this
- 9:00festival, which we did, and again thank you everybody for doing that,
- 9:03like we're just one of the ninety bands. And we went into that thinking
- 9:05that kind of mindset of like we deserve to be here. We are like
- 9:09ironically and it's not true, but at some point we are no different than
- 9:13Reliant K. We're no different than MxPx, who are playing on this exact
- 9:18same stage just a little bit after us and today. Yeah, thanks for
- 9:22saying that, but that's just like kind of there's a balance between like trying
- 9:26to if we went into that thinking like, oh, we're just like we're
- 9:28nobody, we shouldn't be here. That's that what you McCall. It's a
- 9:33imposter and that that cripples people. And for us just to take a deep
- 9:37breath and say like all right, here we go. Yeah, a supermanu
- 9:41way through it. The only thing it would have made it better is this,
- 9:46you should have done an altar call. Man. I mean, oh
- 9:48god, I've never know. I will not do that. You know what,
- 9:52I wish we'll over we overthink everything I wish from the get go.
- 9:58I would have had the confidence to get people up on stage, and so
- 10:01I don't know if you noticed on Friday there was a barricade, but then
- 10:05it was gone on Saturday and Sunday, which is a bummer because I think
- 10:07we maybe would have gotten more engagement, or like Johnny could have come up
- 10:11and like maybe gone into the crowd or some of that stuff. I wish
- 10:13I would have pulled a Pennywise or a bane and just told security like hey,
- 10:18like you know, like, let's just imagine this scenario. The second
- 10:22song we're about to start, no friends, and I look around and I'm
- 10:24like, Yo, this is like too empty of a stage, Like,
- 10:28hey, everybody in like the first like couple rows, like come back here
- 10:31in stage, Like that would have been really cool. And I like start
- 10:35thinking about that from a standpoint of like, Yo, did you see that
- 10:37the band that played at two o'clock had like fifty people up on stage?
- 10:41You know? Anyways, that would have been great next time. I know.
- 10:46Well, I think that leads into I don't know if it was my
- 10:50number one thing about the twenty twenty three Furnace Fest, but it certainly is
- 10:54in the top five. But no barricades, and I just saw so much
- 11:00of to the organizers this year about the fact that there were no barricades.
- 11:03Obviously, there was that one barricade there on that stage on Friday, but
- 11:07the rest of the weekend no barricades, And I just think it, like,
- 11:11honestly, I think it made the festival safer, and to a certain
- 11:16degree, I think it made it safer, and I think just overall made
- 11:18it a more enjoyable experience of like what that community expects from the show in
- 11:26a number of different shows. So I just thought the fact that there were
- 11:28no barricades was just overall a better experience. And I don't know how much
- 11:33like insurance piece like played a part into that, and I just I don't
- 11:37know like all the behind the scenes around the decision around that, but I
- 11:39think overall it made the festival so much better and it just made it a
- 11:43lot more fun. I really love the fact that there were like essentially no
- 11:46barricades the whole weekend. I'm not a festivalgoer per se, so I don't,
- 11:50like, I've never been to like Louder than Life for Aftershock or something,
- 11:54so I don't really know how it is, but it felt like like
- 11:58I'll expand that no barricades thing even further to like, just like the merch
- 12:01and stuff, they feel like a lot of bands were just out there,
- 12:05and it feels like those barricades kind of eliminated that separation between artists and fans
- 12:11or artists and attendees, to where even I saw like photos later of Carson
- 12:16from the Dowboys was just in the crowd, Jordan Buckley was from Better Lovers,
- 12:20was just like in the crowd, and that's like really cool. I
- 12:22actually got a couple of comments like from people afterwards saying like, oh,
- 12:26it was cool seeing you guys kind of watching all the bands and stuff throughout
- 12:28the weekend. But I think for everybody it's like we're here as fans,
- 12:33like this is the coolest weekend ever, so let's just enjoy it. And
- 12:37I think having no barricades was kind of a furnacess putting their foot down of
- 12:41like no, there's like no separation between us, like we're all in this
- 12:45together. Yeah, there's to uphold in that in that world, I think,
- 12:50and I think the barricades down helps the ethos right absolutely, and in
- 12:56fact along the lines of the fact that artists are in the crowd being fans
- 13:01as well. Colin, I didn't you mentioned that Turnstyle was at like in
- 13:05the pit at like Living Sacrifice or something. I don't remember the drummer's name,
- 13:09but he was over at He was over at Living Sacrifice briefly for a
- 13:13little bit, like just hanging out at the edge of the pit. He
- 13:16was like pushing people and then left, so I don't know where he went
- 13:18after that, but it's pretty cool. And yeah, that's part of the
- 13:22reason why I love this festival. I've I've actually thought about that too,
- 13:26Austin, about the fact that not only were there no physical barricades, but
- 13:30also the fact that it does feel like this festival. And again, I
- 13:33don't know what other festivals are like when it comes to this, but it
- 13:37seems like this festival allows bands and the artists to also be fans, and
- 13:41I think for other fans of these artists to like see that that you know,
- 13:46the you know that the drummer of Turnstyle is also just a music fan
- 13:50and is just like us. And the fact that like he wants to rock
- 13:52out, he wants to get into the mosh pit, he wants the stage.
- 13:56I think that's so important for US fans to like see like these are
- 14:00people too and they love music, and I don't know, there's just something
- 14:03really important about that. Colin Austin and I mentioned our first two. What's
- 14:07what's yours that you want to Yeah, I'll start off with a light one.
- 14:09I loved the food options this year so much more than years past that
- 14:15that that's not usually where I would go with this, but I thought the
- 14:18food was absolutely incredible and I had a blast, just like trying other stuff
- 14:22you eat. My favorite thing was from Nine Rabbits. It was a pork
- 14:28sausage bowl and it was that was amazing, amazing. I loved it.
- 14:37I gotta, I gotta all right, Well, actually I'll expand that to
- 14:41like drinks and stuff. So with the artists pass, we got some drinks.
- 14:43Like I'm like still like recovering from this weird balance of making sure weird
- 14:50because we're just sleep deprived and we're on the road, like traveling and stuff.
- 14:54So it was like coffee water, alcohol, alcohol, water, alcohol,
- 15:01coffee, food and then it would be like you're like doing all right,
- 15:05and then all of a sudden you eat and your body was like freaking
- 15:09out, like you haven't Why haven't we eaten already? So at some point
- 15:13I went over to Bad Luck Burger and got one, ate it and just
- 15:18went right back in line and got those were so good. Uh. And
- 15:22then the Fun Place, I got those fries and that was, oh yeah,
- 15:26I saw those two. They're so good. Yeah. I did get
- 15:31one of the veggie burgers from Bad Luck Burger, and like, like,
- 15:35I've had some pretty good veggie burgers and I'm not vegetarian, but I love
- 15:37to like just see like what vegetarian burgers are like. Uh, and I
- 15:41was just really curious what there's yeah, sort yeah, sort of in a
- 15:46way. But I had their veggie burger and it felt the most fast food
- 15:50like veggie burger I've ever had, which I really appreciated. Like you don't
- 15:54really a lot of like veggie burgers feel like a little high dining of burgers,
- 15:58but this felt like very fast foody and that's why I really loved about
- 16:00their veggie burger. Or it tastes like a like a bean burgger that only
- 16:04ends up tasting like beans, which is not really that appealing either. So
- 16:11uh, yeah, I think the food options this year were great. I
- 16:14probably am gonna list it at some point too in my list of things.
- 16:18But yeah, I loved the food options and there felt like there were way
- 16:22more Austin, I know you haven't been to the last two Furnace fest but
- 16:25the lines used to be just excruciating, like excruciating long, and so the
- 16:30fact at all, yeah, like there were really any lines, Like the
- 16:33most I ever waited was like maybe five or ten minutes. It used to
- 16:37like take maybe an hour before. But there just seems like there were more
- 16:41food options and they were better. It was just a better experience for food
- 16:45overall. I think, Yeah, I agree. Holy So back to you,
- 16:49Austin, what's another thing you want to mention? I'm trying to split
- 16:53between. I think there's like a fascinating part because one on Mike just a
- 16:56super fan of Furnace Vest and the bands and steps, there's art of me
- 17:00that wants to just answer as a band but also or as a fan but
- 17:03then also being able to play that I kind of excuse my idea of the
- 17:07festival a little bit. But my second one would be the staff was amazing,
- 17:14and again I'm not familiar with like other festivals and like how they're run
- 17:18but from the moment I was going to say from the moment we got there,
- 17:22but now I'm thinking back, like from the moment we got like our
- 17:25first email, even like starting with Elena from the Furnace Fest Facebook community group
- 17:30and then she works with them as well. But then just the emails that
- 17:33we got, like leading up to it, from Zeemer, from Ryan Luther,
- 17:37from all the different staff members, like they were always so kind and
- 17:41we would ask questions and kind of not necessarily pushed back, but we're kind
- 17:45of always just like, hey, like what do you want from us?
- 17:48You need anything else? And everybody was always felt like we were included.
- 17:51But then as soon as we got there too, just the merch coordinator's staff,
- 17:56her name was Angelica. She helped us out. A Ton Lacy was
- 17:59another person that we were worked with, but then Tate was our stage manager
- 18:03on the Big Brothers stage, and then all of his staff everybody was just
- 18:07so kind to us. And then kind of going back to the no Barricades,
- 18:11you can't not shout out Johnny Grimes, Ryan Luther, Chad Mike just
- 18:18for being like the Ratus dudes. And we saw at the pre show,
- 18:21the Meadows pre show with Symphony and Peril. That's where we actually met Chad
- 18:26for the first time, and he gave us like I tried to shake his
- 18:29hand and you know, you tried just going into like a new interaction,
- 18:32but he gave us like the biggest hug, and it was like, I'm
- 18:33so happy that you guys are here. And just from a founder, from
- 18:38like an owner of a festival standpoint, you maybe think that they'd be behind
- 18:42the curtain a little bit more or more reserved, but every one of those
- 18:47guys was just so cool to us, and that like we walk away from
- 18:52that like on Cloud nine because it was like, hey, that was really
- 18:53fun. Like the people that we got to work with multiple times were really
- 18:59really cool and take care. And that's again the barriers thing. I saw
- 19:03Johnny Grimes stage dive, I saw Mike Seamer watching almost every band at the
- 19:08Shed, and throughout the weekend. Ryan Luther was always walking around watching people,
- 19:15and Chad like was always on stage for his bands and like I was
- 19:18subsided standing next to him during a s Citi's burns And it's just cool because
- 19:22these guys are fans of the industry and these bands, and you can feel
- 19:26that in the in the festival at large. Yeah, they're definitely not in
- 19:30this for like just making a dollar or two, right, Like, they
- 19:33truly are in this because they love these bands, they love this music,
- 19:36they love this scene. Yeah, and I would take it a step further
- 19:38to say, like it doesn't it's not even just like the people who organize
- 19:41it, but the people who you know, were working the festival as well.
- 19:45I mean, the security was great. I've never felt so like safe
- 19:51going to a place that's got that many people. You know, they were
- 19:56prepared, uh you know, they weren't letting in people who we're dangerous or
- 20:00we're potentially dangerous, I mean, or if they were, if they brought
- 20:04on like weapons or anything like that, like that was all confiscated. Like
- 20:07I appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate that a lot. And I also
- 20:11liked that, you know, the security guard at one of the security members,
- 20:17sorry the guard, this was anyways, one of the security members actually
- 20:21got into the pit was like mashing around for I saw that. It was
- 20:23like or something. It was great. It was great. Yeah, And
- 20:29like the child the crowd was like let him mosht. It was great.
- 20:33That's great. Yeah, And I think that, like again really kind of
- 20:40is a telltale sign of like how much this scene just like loves to embrace
- 20:42like different people. I mean even security people that probably have no idea about
- 20:47any of these bands, any of this music, and even like the moment
- 20:49they are like this, this seems really fun. People like are They're just
- 20:53brought along and into the journey. And I just love that about this kind
- 20:57of crowd of folks is for the most part, most of them are like
- 21:00not trying to be gate keepy about any of this. They're just like,
- 21:03you know what, you've never heard this band before, but you know what,
- 21:06you're gonna get into the mash bit and enjoy your time too, And
- 21:08uh and I would, And I'm hoping that like even for folks who are
- 21:12watching your Guys a show Austin, Like there might have been some people who
- 21:15have probably never heard you Guys before, but they were just like curious.
- 21:18And my hope is that like nobody was like trying to be gate keepy about
- 21:22it. They were just like, you know what this is undertaking and you're
- 21:25gonna have just a hell of a time. I'd say, scour it sounds
- 21:30a little bit more intense but I'm like keeping my eyes open for somebody to
- 21:33be like that band sucked, but nobody. Nobody said Mason said, So
- 21:41it's my turn. God, There's just so many other kind of ways that
- 21:45I could go on this. I'm trying to think of some of the other
- 21:47ones. I'll just steal this one from Colin because I'm sure Colin will say
- 21:49this one, but a Plea for Purging. This is a band that both
- 21:53Colin and I have loved for for years and years and years, and to
- 21:57see them play again. We saw them at one of their last shows when
- 22:00they did their Felt Farewell tour in twenty twelve, I think, and and
- 22:06to see them again over ten years later and just absolutely kill it. At
- 22:11one point, I was actually, I don't know if I texted you guys
- 22:12this yesterday, but there was a video that was posted during Malevolence and somebody
- 22:18had a stage dive counter and there were all over one hundred stage dives alone
- 22:22for Manevolence, which is just fascinating, Like there were some people are thinking
- 22:29like maybe five hundred stage dives in total at the Plea for Purging show,
- 22:33because I mean Malevolence already had five hundred so you just need four hundred more
- 22:37across probably what eat other songs. So as long as like fifty people were
- 22:41stage diving in their other songs, you probably had four hundred or yeah,
- 22:45another four hundred stage dives. So yeah, it just that show alone was
- 22:49unbelievable, absolutely incredible. It was a really good time. So anyway,
- 22:53plea for purging and also them throwing out there. Just let me get in
- 22:57the middle of the side. I'll get to them all everyone there. Yeah,
- 23:03okay, well so Mason, Mason's getting ahead of the card here,
- 23:06So I'll say that a play for Perjing was probably my all time favorite part
- 23:10of the entire weekend. The only thing I was super disappointed about was that
- 23:14I wanted to see the two other bands that were playing at that exact same
- 23:17time, and that was the biggest one. Yes, I wanted to see
- 23:21Better Lovers so bad because I knew or I heard that they did a cover
- 23:26of Rusty Cage from Sound Garden, and I'm like the biggest sound Garden fan,
- 23:32and I would love to hear Greg Pucciato saying Chris Cornell like, and
- 23:37I didn't get to hear it, and I'm bummed about that, but Plae
- 23:40for Purjing was incredible. Flinging burgers for to the song fat Pride. I
- 23:45mean, come on, that is the coolest and most badass thing someone could
- 23:49do. I felt I felt seen in that moment, you know, I
- 23:56felt seen in that moment. Although I've lost weight, I still I still
- 23:59rip present myself as a man. So, yeah, you were You were
- 24:03the guy that would eat like every one of those burgers that were thrown at
- 24:07you. Yeah. I do think I might have been the only one that
- 24:10was actually eating my burger while I was literally like going, it's so funny.
- 24:15I had a friend of mine come up later and went some raving about
- 24:18that moment. You can't believe what happened. It was genius. I mean,
- 24:25how many of those did you? Like? There had been at least
- 24:26fifty that were thrown out right, at least I think there was probably like
- 24:30seventy five. That was a good number of them. That they definitely made
- 24:34quite a few burgers, I mean, and they were selling those for what
- 24:37like twelve bucks a pop that was just threw out into the crowd. I
- 24:41bought twenty four dollars worth of hamburgers. I got home and I told my
- 24:48wife, and she was like, I noticed that there was a double charge
- 24:49on the card. I didn't know if that was a mistake. No,
- 24:53not a mistake, note a mistake at all. All. Right, back
- 24:56to you, Austin. I'll get this one out of the way because it's
- 25:00very selfish. But being being able to perform, well, I guess it's
- 25:06just a bucket like like this this weekend was just like the ultimate bucket list.
- 25:11It was. It was one of those things for my four dudes,
- 25:15three dudes and myself included Johnny, Brent, Keith and myself. That's the
- 25:18undertaking. We got four of them. I was just a bucket this weekend.
- 25:22And so even if we were to have just attended Furnace Best, that
- 25:26would have been amazing. But being able to play was so sick and and
- 25:30And as a band in twenty twenty three were essentially a content machine. So
- 25:34the fact that we're getting all these videos. The guy that did the mash
- 25:38or the stage, I've counter his name is Diego. He put up three
- 25:41songs from our set as well. So he came up later and we took
- 25:45a picture with him and and he anyways, it's rad to talk to that
- 25:49guy, but then for him to put up that music, the music videos
- 25:52or whatever you want to call him on YouTube, Like that's so cool because
- 25:55you see all these things when you type in furnace best, you see all
- 25:57these sets that get up loaded. And for us then to like get some
- 26:00of those, that's really cool to be able to get footage of like a
- 26:04stage dive of mine into the crowd and be able to get some pictures of
- 26:11like a decent sized crowd with us on a big stage. Like that's one
- 26:15of those things where you can kind of point to some people and if you're
- 26:19listening to this for the first time and you're hearing me talk about stuff,
- 26:22I hope you understand that I like, I'm not a privateful person and I
- 26:26don't have like a huge ego, but for like with that split second,
- 26:30it gives you just that like rush of like I did something really cool and
- 26:36no one can ever take that away from us. And that's like so sick
- 26:40for us as a band of four dudes who started a band in their mid
- 26:42thirties to say, hey, let's have some fun and do something something something
- 26:45really cool, Like this is a weekend where we did something really cool.
- 26:52You. You immediately became one of those people on Twinder. On Tinder are
- 26:57big thing up front, you know, they're like, I've never played on
- 27:02Changer, but yeah, yeah, I corrected myself. I'm sorry, but
- 27:07yeah, we that's like our big fish of having like a shot with a
- 27:11cool crowd and videos of us on a big stage and then to be able
- 27:14to perform with Meadows the night before. I sang on one of their songs
- 27:18and that was fun and just it. You know, you never know what's
- 27:22gonna come from this, but hopefully, like this undertaking stock is rising and
- 27:29hopefully we can keep doing cool stuff. So anyways, yeah, that's just
- 27:30very like selfish one. Obviously, that's like my number one favorite thing of
- 27:36Furnace Fest is that we got to play and do that. But anyway,
- 27:38it was it was really cool. A part of that. How did how
- 27:41did you go about getting David Bunton on to sing with you as well as
- 27:45well as Christian Nielsen from Meadows. I told Christian specifically that he could not
- 27:51sing on that, and he somehow managed to get on stage. Okay,
- 28:00I'll start with Christian. Christian I love him. He's like at this point
- 28:03where like big brother, little brother type of thing. I texted him like,
- 28:10Hey, I'll be at your pre show like I'm singing on the call
- 28:12because I had talked to Stone to make sure that that was on like the
- 28:15set list, and I was like, Hey, I'm gonna do that,
- 28:18and I was like, hey, are you if you want? Like obviously
- 28:19the final chorus of knuckle Sandwich. Have everything worked out? Just why we
- 28:22call it knuckle Sandwich, that's your chorus because anytime we've toured with them,
- 28:26he always comes up and sings on that. And then like four days go
- 28:30by without him texting me back, and I guess he was on vacation and
- 28:33I was like, dang, like he doesn't want to do it so fun,
- 28:37And then finally he texted me back and I was like all right,
- 28:40So that was kind of a given. We met David at a show in
- 28:44Knoxville, Tennessee, this past April, and ended up talking to him and
- 28:48Sarah, his wife, for a long long time after that show and just
- 28:55since then, since six months ago. Kind of crazy that that's how quickly
- 28:59it goes. Just became good friends with him. So at some point I
- 29:03got I got him a pass for Friday so then at some point I was
- 29:06like, hey, would you want to sing, and gave him a couple
- 29:08options and we came up with that whole part. But yeah, that was
- 29:11like that alone is so sick. I don't know, It's like, yeah,
- 29:15it was so his voice is so amazing, and just to have for
- 29:18him to come in at those parts where it's like, oh dang, like
- 29:22his lows were so low it hit like a freight trind in the crowd,
- 29:26it was like whoa, Yeah, it felt that same way on stage,
- 29:30like we all felt something. Yeah, I bet, I bet. I
- 29:34will also say that David has easily been one of my favorite guests we've ever
- 29:40had on I mean, you just laughed the entire time because it was it
- 29:44was a riot. Also, we found out that he might be the like,
- 29:47you know how you're an easy get for podcasts. Sure, David is
- 29:51an easy get for guest vocals. Oh yeah, he's always It doesn't any
- 29:55time anytime, I hate. I hate doing guest spots on like actually recordings
- 30:00of songs. It's just not something I love. And he's always like,
- 30:03dude, anytime you want to you want to have me on a song,
- 30:06like let me know, let me. Know, he's always talking about it,
- 30:07but I adore that guy. Man, he's he was a huge influence
- 30:11of ours back in the day, and then also again inside baseball. It's
- 30:15like a little bit of a subtle flex like to for a lot of people
- 30:18to be like, how did you get the showdown to sing? Yeah,
- 30:22and it's like he's our friend, you know, Like I don't know.
- 30:25It's just one of those things that's kind of funny when you start to piece
- 30:27it together. But I was mulling over trying to ask a couple other people
- 30:30to do guest spots too. But I don't want it to be like overwhelming.
- 30:34Yeah you didn't You didn't ask me. You could have hopped over the
- 30:37barricade and grabbed a microphone. It's been a dream of mind since day one,
- 30:42not only to to be on stage and sing with one of my favorite
- 30:48bands or my favorite bands, but how did we not make that happen?
- 30:52I'm sorry? Like see, that's the thing now is I'm playing all over
- 30:55these things in my head and I would SHO would have done stuff differently like
- 30:56that would have been So you fucked it all up? Austin got Fris That's
- 31:02all right, next time, we'll do it. No, please, please,
- 31:03please, please, you guys, get hit the Midwest again. Tier
- 31:07two. Probably not. We're trying. We're trying our routes, keep taking
- 31:14us other directions. That's all right, Well you'll get here eventually, I
- 31:18know at some point, Austin. One of the cool things about seeing you
- 31:22guys on stage and seeing other bands on stage is to be able to like
- 31:26say like that's my friend, Like, that's my friend doing what he loves.
- 31:30And that's always really exciting for me. Is like, as somebody who
- 31:33has no musical talent whatsoever, to like at least be able to say like,
- 31:37that's my friend doing that like that that like not only do you get
- 31:40a sense of pride about being a part of like something that's really cool being
- 31:44on stage, but also like for me as a friend, I'm like I
- 31:47feel so prideful about like my friends just like doing what they love and it's
- 31:52really cool to see them doing that on the stage. And so anyway,
- 31:55like when I see you guys and a bunch of other friends that were on
- 31:57stage this weekend, uh this last week, and it's it's just so much
- 32:00like I have a sense of cent of pride as a friend speaking, do
- 32:06you want to do you want to fess up a little bit here about that
- 32:09you missed half our set? So my my chacos broke. My tacos broke
- 32:19the day before we were Did you miss half our set? We miss?
- 32:22I missed half your set, But I got there at the end. I
- 32:25got there and shown when I saw it, looked down and he wasn't standing
- 32:30next to you. At some point I was like, man, that guy
- 32:34better get the nicest vans in the world. Well, the funny thing is
- 32:39they weren't vans. Uh, so they were So here's the thing. If
- 32:44I would have gone to the actual van store, I would have for sure
- 32:46miss all of your set. So I went to Target instead, and they
- 32:52didn't have any like shoes that I wanted from the men's section. So I
- 32:54literally went to the women's section and they had like what looked like Van shoe
- 33:00and I was like, well, they have these women's shoes that are in
- 33:02my size and they look passable. So I got these women shoes from Target,
- 33:07and I was able to get back and see at least half the second
- 33:10half of the set. So I wasn't gonna ask because then There's also a
- 33:14couple of people that came up to us and were like, man, you
- 33:15guys were cool, and that was like one hundred bucks. You weren't even
- 33:19there. I'm not going to tell you. I won't tell you who.
- 33:23There's a couple of people that I was like, you didn't watch us.
- 33:27You was just saying, when there's five people in the crowd, it's like
- 33:31pretty easy to figure out what the non five people in the crowd who who
- 33:36they were. There's a lot more than five people in the crowd, I
- 33:38know. I was telling people we probably had around five hundred people watching us.
- 33:43Like it wasn't like the shed caps out at like two thousand or something.
- 33:45We probably had like five hundred. That's really cool as most we ever
- 33:47played, too. That was our first fest. That's our biggest crowd we've
- 33:51ever played. That's the biggest stage. Like, let's go. That's the
- 33:53best. I love it? All right? My turn? Yeah, hold
- 33:57on? Which one are we on? We? Three? Three? Yeah?
- 33:59All right? So mine number a little three one is a really funny
- 34:05moment. It was a very specific moment that was really funny though. So
- 34:07I got to hang out with one of my friends who are a couple of
- 34:12my friends who are the guitars for Reliant K, and so I've gotten to
- 34:15know them over the last couple of years they played in Reliant K. It
- 34:17was really good time. And what was funny is they like I was in
- 34:22like I was just being able to hang out with them in person in their
- 34:24trailer, like they had like their own like kind of trailer or whatever in
- 34:28the backstage area. So I'm hanging out just chatting with them, and at
- 34:31one point, Matt Teason, the front man for Reliant K, comes out
- 34:36and like, I shake his hand. Is the first time I ever met
- 34:37him in person, so he says high And at one point, like the
- 34:44other two guys that I'm hanging out with from Reliant K, like they're talking
- 34:46to two other people, and Matt like, now it kind of feels obligated,
- 34:50like, well, I just got to talk to this guy who's here
- 34:52now. So Matt like starts talking to me, and I like kind of
- 34:55mentioned a little bit about like, hey, like I'm good friends with like
- 34:59this person that I know you're good friends with, YadA YadA, Like I'm
- 35:00trying to make some sort of connection, right uh, And and he looks
- 35:04at me, like he stops me for a second. He's like, are
- 35:07you that guy from the internet that always tweets about us? And I thought
- 35:13that was such a silly, funny moment. And anyway I had, I
- 35:16like told the whole world about it. But here's my second telling to the
- 35:20world about what was your most recent tweet about reliant Kay? Because I laughed
- 35:24about it, but I can't remember it. Oh the one where I was
- 35:29like, that wasted ten seconds of your life. Yeah, so I had
- 35:34like a tweet that was like reliant Kay and then Christian men on their wedding
- 35:37night and then like the shaking hands emoji and it said I just wasted ten
- 35:40seconds of your life. I don't I don't get it. That's one of
- 35:49those songs. No, I know, just all right. So anyway that
- 35:52that moment, Oh, I figured that you understood the other part. So
- 35:55oh yeah, yeah, you got the Christian man part it all right,
- 36:02Colin. Let's hear it my next one. I'll say this. I have
- 36:07health issues, right, I'm on blood thinners, I've got kidney disease.
- 36:13You've got no knees. I've got no knees like I've had six knee surgeries.
- 36:16I've got a I've got a knee replacement. Now I guess too.
- 36:21Yeah, why did you encourage me to jump on you when we hugged that
- 36:23one time? I shouldn't done well because you're you're you're still a light a
- 36:29lightweight. You know, It's not like it's Andy Atkins jumping on me,
- 36:31so I would have been right. I was a little bit terrified that I
- 36:36was going to take a shot to the head and then like I would have
- 36:37a you know, an internal brain bleed, and then I would you know,
- 36:42be sent to the hospital and just inevitably die. But I didn't care
- 36:46really all that much. And I was just like, I'm gonna get in
- 36:50here a few times, and I'm gonna jump off these stages and I'm gonna
- 36:52do all the fun stuff because I never got to do this when I was
- 36:57young, Like the stuff didn't exist where we lived. Anywhere it did exist
- 37:01was way too far away for Mason or I to get to. And so
- 37:08just being able to let loose a little bit and uh, you know,
- 37:12get get in the crowd and and push people around and get pushed around,
- 37:15and it was it's a it's a thing that unless you do it. You
- 37:22don't understand it, right, It's it's a feeling that you just don't understand
- 37:27until you do. It's and it's a great when you don't even care if
- 37:30you're gonna live anymore. So maybe, yeah, talk to your therapist about
- 37:34that, you know. It's it's not like a depressed thing. It's like
- 37:38a I've accepted the fate that i've that I have. Well, that's the
- 37:44first part of the grieving process. I guess. I guess it's funny.
- 37:49Yeah, good for you man. That that pumps me up. Yeah,
- 37:52it was a blast number four for you, Austin. I mean, like
- 37:57I said, this is the point in time where I could probably just like
- 38:00rattle off an hour's worth of stories. But like the bands, Norma Jean
- 38:07was amazing. MX p X was a dream and so fun. We're just
- 38:14screaming at each other responsibility. What's that like? Just so cool? I
- 38:20should pull up a list. But Better Lovers was amazing zo watching them.
- 38:25They were so I'm not the only one that pronounces it that way. High
- 38:29five Drain. I caught a couple of their songs. Bain was amazing.
- 38:37The Clothes out the Night turnstyle was rad like, I'm not the biggest Turnstyle
- 38:40fan, but just watching like the spectacle of everything was amazing. I think
- 38:45you just committed a cardinal sin. I don't know. It's not allowed to
- 38:49say anything slightly negative about Turnstyle. Don't you know the rules? Now I
- 38:54do? Now? I love Turnstyle so much. They're my favorite band.
- 39:00Better Lovers, Acidities Burned like was just an amazing moment. It's just like
- 39:07so many little micro moments with this song, Oh, Haste the Day,
- 39:12like some of these bands that want I never thought I was gonna see ever
- 39:15or again. And so that's when like you just have story after story after
- 39:22story after story about like a song or a chorus or a line or a
- 39:27band in general. And for me, it's like stuff like come Now Sleep
- 39:30is the album that I learned how to yell with. And so to hear
- 39:34them sing some of those songs, and just from a spiritual standpoint, like
- 39:37what Cody wrote on that in Hell or High Water like so profound. So
- 39:42to hear him sing some of those songs amazing. Hate the Day. I
- 39:45was probably like eighteen seven, no, like sixteen seventeen years old, and
- 39:50it was Haste the Day Dead, poetic under Oath, Norma Jeane, some
- 39:52sort of Solid State tour that was coming through Haste. The day opened and
- 39:57they played Blue forty two's first song we had ever heard from and when they
- 40:00just crush and all of a sudden, you're just like, well, I'm
- 40:01a lifelong fan and so just like little moments like that that tap you back
- 40:06into your childhood. It's just so cool and like and that was that was
- 40:08like happening like over and over and over. And then Johnny would you know,
- 40:13Johnny would talk about May and Armor for Sleep and some of the bands
- 40:15that he got to see. I know some people have like big moments during
- 40:19further seams forever, and it's just so cool that there are so many opportunities
- 40:23for just moments of like, wow, this is happening and this is really
- 40:28cool, dude. That's it is really like Christmas. Yeah, it's Christmas
- 40:36has like this like nostalgia to it, and you're also like, you know,
- 40:39just getting cool things in the process. That's that's what Furnace Fest feels
- 40:44like to me. It's like Christmas. We called it a buffet, so
- 40:49we kept treating we kept treating it like a buffet. We keep like I'm
- 40:52I'm gonna take a little bit of this. I'm like, go get a
- 40:54little bit of that. Yeah, here's an underrated aspect of Furnace fest.
- 41:00And again, I don't really know what a lot of other festivals are like
- 41:04when it comes to this, especially like kind of heavier music type of festivals.
- 41:07But I would say my number four is the kids at the festival.
- 41:12Uh. And not only are there like children children literally like dancing and washing
- 41:17on stage. Like there was that one kid that was just like seemingly at
- 41:20every show. He's got a huge Twitter following our instagrams. I guess that
- 41:24was I guess that's the whole thing. Yeah, his name is Luke.
- 41:28His his dad's been a big fan of ours for like a long time.
- 41:30So that was cool to be able. That might be the biggest flex that
- 41:34anyone could have. Rights. That's that's that's the biggest flex. I'm saying.
- 41:43I don't know. The kids stuff got a little bit of controversy a
- 41:46little bit. Well yeah, and like I get that, but also it's
- 41:50like he's like what a four year old kid? Like it is what it
- 41:53is, And I get like that. There's probably some sort of content creation
- 41:57around it, but like also the kids, seems like he really enjoys it.
- 41:59Yeah, I don't think that one was what people were really pointing at.
- 42:01I think it was like some of the other ones were like kids are
- 42:06on like literally in the mosh pit, and parents are like forcing them out
- 42:10there to a certain extent. I think that is where people got a little
- 42:15nervous about things. But the one, Mason, I don't mean to cut
- 42:21you off. I just saw so many stories as well about people being like
- 42:23when I was a kid, I went to Furnace Fest in two thousand and
- 42:27one, and now I'm able to bring my son to this festival now and
- 42:30be able to share this moment, and that's like where Furnace Fest becomes something
- 42:34bigger than just totally right totally And that's where I'm like, especially like that
- 42:39Turnstile Show. Like the thing that took my breath away around the Turnstile Show
- 42:44was to see like what for sure were like high school age kids like or
- 42:49maybe even younger, like middle school, And I remember being that age getting
- 42:52into this music for the first time and like wanting to be that kid that
- 42:57was like in the mosh pit at like under Oath when I was likeeen or
- 43:00fourteen or fifteen or you know whatever it was right, and like you know,
- 43:04Culin and I were like what I think it was like sixteen or seventeen
- 43:07when we saw like a plea for purgeing and you know, seeing the chariot
- 43:09when I was like sixteen years old and something like we were young kids.
- 43:12We were the like whatever those kids ages were at Turnstile, Like that's how
- 43:16young we were. And to like see the next generation of those kids like
- 43:21find these bands and want to be a part of this scene, like that's
- 43:23what like touched me the most. Was like like this is not going away.
- 43:27This music is not going away, Like there are kids that are going
- 43:30to continue this music. Those kids are going to go on to create like
- 43:34great bands too, and and that, like to me is like the cool
- 43:37thing to just see this like turnover of just like generation after generation of like
- 43:43you see sixty year olds in like The Living Sacrifice Show, nothing going hard,
- 43:47even sometimes stage diving, and then to see like fourteen year old kids
- 43:52at Turnstile and you just see this great range of ages like carrying about this
- 43:57music, and that to me is like what's really cool about this? So
- 44:00to see like kids at these shows, not just young kids, and you
- 44:04know their parents bringing them in along, and you see their big like headphones
- 44:07over their ears, and like, you know, them going off and just
- 44:09like having a hell of a time. Like that's really cute and wonderful.
- 44:13But to like see kids that are like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old
- 44:16having meaningful experiences being a part of this, like that, to me is
- 44:20really touching. Knowing that those kids are going to go on and create really
- 44:22cool bands and and we're gonna be sixty years old listening to their bands.
- 44:27Yeah, there was this kid that I made friends with I but he was
- 44:30probably fifteen or sixteen years old during the Turnstile show, and it was like
- 44:32it was like a battle. It was like a war zone in there,
- 44:35and him and I were like working together, and then at one point I
- 44:37was like, do you want to go up? And he's like he's like,
- 44:40I don't know, I'm kind of kind of scared. I was like,
- 44:44it's now or never, let's do it. I was like I'll throw
- 44:46you up there. He's like, all right, let's do it. So
- 44:50I threw him up there and he jumped off, and I swear to God,
- 44:52he jumped twenty feet. I've never seen someone jump so far like Mason.
- 44:58Doesn't even come close. Since jump from last year doesn't even come close,
- 45:00Austin, You're jump from this year doesn't even come close. That kid
- 45:05jumped an astronomical amounts of distance. It was awesome. You can't get that
- 45:12kid on the lunch team. Yeah, I recruit him. Did you Did
- 45:15he call you mister Mac? No, you just said bro. He's like,
- 45:19well, Bro, come on, bro, help me up. All
- 45:21right? Here you go? All right. Number four is the friendships.
- 45:27Man, Oh my gosh. I love Furnace Fast. The bands are great.
- 45:30Meeting meeting people that we haven't met before h is great, But the
- 45:36best part is the friendships that that continue to grow when we're there. And
- 45:42I love that aspect more than anything. That That is my all time favorite
- 45:46aspect of a furnace Fast. It's really touching. Like I almost want to
- 45:52like tear up a little bit right now, So I'm gonna stop, but
- 45:57I'm gonna leave it at that. Friends. How about you, Austin.
- 46:00Number five? Yeah, well, again, I could go on and on.
- 46:05I think I'll just sum it up, like the best thing about furnace
- 46:07best for us the top five things that we're talking about that is it was
- 46:10just unarguably one of the best weekends of my life, like inside out,
- 46:19core, memory island type of stuff of just like that was cool. And
- 46:23for us to be able to share that with our band, where if you
- 46:31can't pick up on it, Keith, Johnny Brett and I are like best
- 46:35friends and we hang out all the time. We love each other dearly.
- 46:42And for us to be able to like pop on a plane at five in
- 46:46the morning from San Diego headed out to Birmingham and then on the way back,
- 46:51hop on a plane at six am back to San Diego, and every
- 46:53single moment in between there we're just like, hey, we're doing something really
- 46:57cool. This is an adventure. Let's go have some fun. For us
- 47:00to be able to like accomplish that and be able to share that with each
- 47:02other, it's so so sick. Like our text chat is just like ablaze,
- 47:07just with memories and little things of like, dude, remember when this
- 47:12happened. But then you start to you know, expand that to where I
- 47:15get to meet people like you, and then there's other people like I met
- 47:19a guy named Danny who we just had some like really cool conversations. I
- 47:23met a couple of other people who had listened to this podcast and heard of
- 47:28us through there, and so that's just cool to where you start to kind
- 47:30of see the network of how people kind of come back and different relationships all
- 47:36consuming podcasts. Got to give them a shout because that discord a lot of
- 47:39people from the discord that we're in, they were there, and so just
- 47:43to run into them all weekend long at different places, different shows. You
- 47:47kind of would see somebody at one of the sets and kind of give them
- 47:51the like yell, it's up, like so sick, you know, like
- 47:54you share that little moment of like this is something cool. There was a
- 47:58guy, oh shoot, I can't remember Loafi the Loafi on Instagram and he
- 48:04came by on how to sign his records. He was standing next to you
- 48:07when I staged ough and he like I landed on him, and throughout the
- 48:13weekend just be like hey you okay, Like I didn't like hurt you,
- 48:16did I. But then there's guys like Zach our buddy Zach. He was
- 48:21really tall wearing an undertaking shirt at some point. And then Big Jeremy,
- 48:25the dude from Seattle, who knows every single one of our words. It
- 48:29was just if you see our pictures of the crowd, he's the dude that's
- 48:30just kind of like it's just like I don't know, man, Like I
- 48:35could go through every single day and like all the different stages of the weekend
- 48:38and just couldn't point like, man, that was cool, that was cool,
- 48:42that was cool. And then you circle everything back and again I could
- 48:45get emotional starting to think about like we got this because people voted us in.
- 48:49And at some point I talked to the merch coordinator, Angelica, and
- 48:52I said, do you know how we got this? By the chance,
- 48:53by any chance, like did you hear? And she was like no,
- 48:57So I told her the story and her eyes like went up and was like
- 48:59that is so cool that that's how you guys got on this, And uh,
- 49:04I don't know. It's just really special to us. And again we
- 49:06take this as an opportunity to just kind of keep going. We got some
- 49:08like amazing demos, we got shows lined up, we got a booking agent
- 49:13involved with stuff. Now, like let's tell like unstopped level. Well,
- 49:19I just remember every time we would run into each other, you just always
- 49:22had the biggest smile because it it really did feel like you could just feel
- 49:25the energy coming from you that like, this is like the greatest weekend right
- 49:29now. And so yeah, every time I saw you, you were always
- 49:31smiling because you're just soaking in the moment and I love that. It was
- 49:36fun. Yeah, it was a good time. All right, Can I
- 49:38tell about the bad things now? You guys gotta go, So I will
- 49:45say my my fifth one is right along with Colin, just friends, like
- 49:50you know, obviously, like hanging out with you Austin, meeting new friends,
- 49:52like people that we haven't met before and just like you know, becoming
- 49:55friends with them. I had lots of friends, Like we stayed in Airbnb
- 50:00with like seven or eight of us and to like introduce people that like have
- 50:02never met each other before, and like all of a sudden, now they're
- 50:06going to be staying in the airbnb together and see those people just like become
- 50:08really good friends over the weekend. Like that's really cool to watch, like
- 50:13my friends like meet each other and become friends themselves. Just like all of
- 50:16that was just so much fun. Obviously, meeting people at the festival,
- 50:21seeing people that we have gotten to know over like the internet over doing these
- 50:24interviews and just being able to see them in person for the first time,
- 50:28like all of that, I mean, just all of those friendships. And
- 50:30I've always described Furnace Best as like a family reunion, and it just felt
- 50:36like that again this year, even more so. So. Uh yeah,
- 50:38the friendships are just always really touching and probably the thing that I always come
- 50:43back to agree uh last one for me this So this is kind of weird.
- 50:47I'm not someone who's got, you know, tens of thousands of followers
- 50:52on Twitter, and I don't have a super cool band or anything like that.
- 50:57I'm just I'm just a guy, just a dude, you know,
- 51:00and I talk way too much on here. But within the first thirty minutes
- 51:07of being at Furnace Fest, I was recognized by two guys from the Netherlands,
- 51:14of all things, and they were they were having an absolute blast and
- 51:17they were like talking to me about things that I don't even remember myself saying,
- 51:21and I was like, this is so cool. Also, I'm scared
- 51:23about what I maybe have said in the past, but regardless, getting no
- 51:30regrets. That's right. Getting recognized as kind of a strange thing, and
- 51:34that's not like trying to like be like self important or anything like that.
- 51:36But like that was weird because that happened a whole bunch of times. But
- 51:40it makes me feel good that like this podcast is doing something and that you
- 51:45know, people are are listening and kind of a part of the little community
- 51:49here as well, and that that just feels really really good because like,
- 51:54I'm not an authority in this scene or I'm not an authority and podcasting.
- 51:59I'm not an authority in a band or on Twitter or anything like that.
- 52:01I'm just not even authority in your own classroom. That's exactly right. I'm
- 52:06just a dude. I was going to say in your own house. But
- 52:08it might be I might be an authority there and I don't know, but
- 52:10regardless, I it's it's just it's a great feeling, like knowing that like
- 52:17we're just part of a much bigger community, bigger scene, and and we're
- 52:23just trying to do our part. I love it. It's fun. Colin.
- 52:28Just wait until you meet your trolls and oh I know, oh yeah,
- 52:30Mason Mess some of his trolls. It's pretty fun. There's so much
- 52:34nicer in person. Though. Yeah, I wonder why I'm sure I have
- 52:40some haters out there. Yeah, we call him punisher. I got people
- 52:46who just punish you. There's one of my Okay, so we do have
- 52:50like this one review on iTunes. By the way, you should go and
- 52:52like and subscribe us and also rate us on iTunes or whatever. But there's
- 52:57there's one. There's one review on it. It's like Mason should shut up
- 53:02because he's a heretic. And also Culin is way funnier than Mason because Mason
- 53:07is not a comedians like this is hilarious. Like I am nowhere near as
- 53:13funny as Mason, and I just think that's funny. I wouldn't go that
- 53:15far. I would go that far. I'm just I'm just louder, that's
- 53:20all I am. But debatable, it's funny. I'm thinking I'm louder.
- 53:23But it was a good weekend. It was good weekend, Austin. I
- 53:28can't wait to see you again. I hope at some point you come to
- 53:31the Midwest and we can jam out again, or maybe, you know,
- 53:36maybe for some reason, I'm out in the West coast when you guys are
- 53:38playing. That would be really fun too. But yeah, we just need
- 53:40to see you again. I'm still trying to get you guys to do like
- 53:44the almost famous thing where you come out and hang with us for a couple
- 53:45of days on the road. Oh I'm down, I'll be silver Stone.
- 53:52I can do that, you guys. You guys always had like other trips
- 53:55planned and stuff we don't go on as is always pretty free in summer,
- 54:00So just like do a little summer thing and you could just tell me where
- 54:02to go. I'm free whenever. All right, we can make it happen.
- 54:07We got some cool stuff coming up, so we're excited. I love
- 54:10it. I love it well obviously. Whenever that happens, we'll get you
- 54:14on the podcast again and we'll chat about it. But in the meantime,
- 54:16Furnace Fust twenty twenty three is in the books, but it will live on
- 54:22forever in our hearts. So thank you so much for Furnace Fast, all
- 54:24the people that were a part of Furnace Fast putting on making lots of memories
- 54:29for lots of people, including us three. So thank you so much.
- 54:31And uh yeah, I'm excited to see you again in twenty twenty four. Ye