Latest / Wicked Radio with Bill Adams / 9-28: Nor'easter Update: Historic Or Hype?
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Well, I would like to be the first to say
- 0:06Speaker 1: I hope you had a great weekend.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Enjoyed maybe college football, outdoor activities, your family, whatever it was.
- 0:12Speaker 2: And I get it if you're along the eastern seaboard.
- 0:15Speaker 2: All you heard about all week long was the... I
- 0:18Speaker 2: heard one media outlet last week actually call it the
- 0:20Speaker 2: storm of the century. Even that early on in the
- 0:23Speaker 2: forecasting of this nor'easter made me say, uh, really? Well, listen,
- 0:28Speaker 2: I'm no one to doubt the power of storms. I
- 0:30Speaker 2: lived through enough hurricanes to actually understand... how devastating they
- 0:34Speaker 2: can be. It only takes one to ruin your life.
- 0:38Speaker 2: We've seen the devastation. I've got to ask you, though,
- 0:41Speaker 2: with this Nor'easter that we all heard about, was it
- 0:45Speaker 2: truly climate crisis as many of the politicians, I'll highlight one,
- 0:49Speaker 2: but many of the politicians went right to, or was
- 0:53Speaker 2: this hyped up because, and this is going to piss
- 0:55Speaker 2: off a lot of you, was this one particular storm
- 0:58Speaker 2: hyped up so much because.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Wait for it. Knock on wood. We've had a very
- 1:05Speaker 1: quiet hurricane season. I'm just asking the questions. That's what
- 1:08Speaker 1: I do. I ask questions.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Like I said, I'll never doubt the seriousness of storms.
- 1:14Speaker 2: You've got to prepare. It's very important, all that stuff.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I just think we need to ask some serious questions
- 1:19Speaker 2: about this thing because bad storm, no doubt about it,
- 1:21Speaker 2: if you live right on the coast. Inland turned out
- 1:25Speaker 2: to be a nothing burger. Well, not a nothing burger,
- 1:27Speaker 2: but it was a strong storm.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We all get it. Did they use this to hype
- 1:31Speaker 1: it up? Possibly. Let's get into it. I hope you
- 1:34Speaker 1: had a great weekend, though. Thanks for being here.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Wicked Radio live stream and replay on X and YouTube
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- 1:41Speaker 2: the live stream. Let's get right to it. Let's get
- 1:43Speaker 2: an update. The news networks this morning. Here's the first one.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I think this is CBS. No, this is Good Morning America.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Let's get their update on that. the great nor'easter.
- 1:51Speaker 3: We're here at the Jersey Shore, and the wind and
- 1:54Speaker 3: the rain continue. What an incredible storm. You're looking at
- 1:56Speaker 3: beach erosion over here as well. I want to take
- 1:59Speaker 3: you to the entryway.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Look at this.
- 2:00Speaker 3: It's completely destroyed along with the beach erosion, and this
- 2:04Speaker 3: slow-moving storm continues.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Bad storm. I get it. A lot of beach erosion.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Let's jump over to, of course, we've got to go
- 2:10Speaker 1: to the Weather Channel. Where did they go?
- 2:11Speaker 2: Of course, they send one of their meteorologists right into
- 2:15Speaker 2: the storm with the weather-proofed microphone they have these days
- 2:18Speaker 2: and the rain suit to tell you how bad it is.
- 2:19Speaker 1: What a September night in Long Island. Welcome back, everyone.
- 2:23Speaker 1: I'm Meteorologist Reynolds Wilt.
- 2:24Speaker 2: The location is East Hampton, and it is a place
- 2:26Speaker 2: that has gone through quite the weather metamorphosis since early.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Bad storm. I get it.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Okay, I have a lot of side questions, and they
- 2:34Speaker 2: interrupt a lot on the float today. Why do they
- 2:37Speaker 2: still do that? Why do they still have weather people?
- 2:41Speaker 2: And the Weather Channel is famous for this. Jim Cantore,
- 2:43Speaker 2: of course, and, you know, all the other ones. Why
- 2:44Speaker 2: do they need to go right into the water, right
- 2:48Speaker 2: out to the storm to show you how bad it is?
- 2:49Speaker 2: It's like literally the camera on the outside can you
- 2:52Speaker 2: get the picture of like how bad the winds are.
- 2:54Speaker 2: You really, you have to have the weather guy or
- 2:56Speaker 2: weather girl actually go into there and to face the winds.
- 2:59Speaker 2: They've done it for a year. I don't think it's
- 3:01Speaker 2: ever going to stop. Anyway, here's another one. I think
- 3:04Speaker 2: this was Fox News.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's see.
- 3:07Speaker 2: We are currently in Brant Rock, Massachusetts.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Where the waves are just ripping along this seawall.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Take a look.
- 3:14Speaker 1: These waves are big. Just get a look at this one.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Oh, this is going to be a big one.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Enough of that guy
- 3:23Speaker 1: screaming into the waves. We get it. They're big waves.
- 3:25Speaker 2: You've been in a big wave. You know exactly what
- 3:27Speaker 2: that's like. You don't need to listen to the weather
- 3:29Speaker 2: guy doing it anyway.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So there they were.
- 3:31Speaker 2: And again, I'm going to say this like a million
- 3:33Speaker 2: times today. I'm not disqualifying or discounting the importance of
- 3:37Speaker 2: being storm ready. I mean, compare this to what it
- 3:40Speaker 2: used to be. My dad used to tell me stories
- 3:43Speaker 2: about what his people told him about.
- 3:44Speaker 1: The Hurricane of 38 or something. It was like ripped
- 3:47Speaker 1: through Massachusetts.
- 3:48Speaker 2: They got no warnings. Like they didn't know, and it
- 3:51Speaker 2: was devastating, right? That's bad, obviously. We get all this
- 3:58Speaker 2: information now.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
- 3:59Speaker 2: It's better to have what we have now, advance warning
- 4:02Speaker 2: of storms, overhyped stuff, ridiculous weathermen going down to the shore,
- 4:07Speaker 2: getting wet for you to get a TV shot. All
- 4:10Speaker 2: of this stuff comes with it. The good part of
- 4:12Speaker 2: this is we get this advance warning now. Look at
- 4:15Speaker 2: the modeling we have now with hurricanes. We get information now.
- 4:18Speaker 2: sometimes 10 days ahead of time, so you can prepare
- 4:21Speaker 2: and hope for the best.
- 4:23Speaker 1: That's great. There's a downside to it.
- 4:25Speaker 2: You have to weave through all of the media hype
- 4:29Speaker 2: with all this thing. I'm not saying this thing was
- 4:31Speaker 2: totally hyped up, because there are people now on Long Island,
- 4:35Speaker 2: Jersey Shore, coastal New England, even coastal Carolina, who are
- 4:41Speaker 2: beach residents who possibly could lose their houses because of
- 4:44Speaker 2: this kind of erosion. That's a serious thing. But again,
- 4:49Speaker 2: there are media outlets and some politicians. Yes, they rear
- 4:52Speaker 2: their ugly heads. We'll get to here in a second.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Who tried to tell you that this was going to
- 4:55Speaker 2: be the most devastating thing. And of course, wait for it.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Wait for it.
- 5:00Speaker 1: It's because of our climate crisis. Of course they did.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Right.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Of course. Well, here's the thing.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I asked the question again. Are they calling the most
- 5:12Speaker 2: amazing thing to me about this nor'eastern? the great fall
- 5:15Speaker 2: in the recent and it is different.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I get it.
- 5:17Speaker 2: It's, it's, it's, it's odd for this time of the
- 5:19Speaker 2: year to get this kind of a storm in the
- 5:21Speaker 2: Northeast and the, and the coastal mid Atlantic States, totally understandable.
- 5:26Speaker 1: It's fall.
- 5:26Speaker 2: And I also understand this was interesting to look at.
- 5:28Speaker 2: If this happened a few months later, this would have
- 5:30Speaker 2: been not inches feet of snow. This truly would have
- 5:34Speaker 2: been like the snow storm of the century along the
- 5:36Speaker 2: East coast. I get that, but that didn't happen either.
- 5:38Speaker 2: And inland a little bit, not so much. So I
- 5:42Speaker 2: talked to my daughter, as you know, who's a Manhattan resident,
- 5:45Speaker 2: just yesterday, and she said, eh, Manhattan's right on the water.
- 5:50Speaker 2: But she goes, I think they're kind of protected by
- 5:52Speaker 2: Long Island and Jersey. Her biggest concern was she bought
- 5:57Speaker 2: an umbrella for this thing for $ 25 and didn't have.
- 6:00Speaker 1: To use it.
- 6:01Speaker 2: So as they try to tell you that millions of
- 6:04Speaker 2: people will be affected, lives destroyed, and all this other stuff,
- 6:06Speaker 2: you've got to take it with a grain of salt
- 6:08Speaker 2: and hope for the best. That's all I'm saying. I'm
- 6:11Speaker 2: amazed they didn't name this thing like they do for
- 6:14Speaker 2: winter storms. They name snowstorms now, but they didn't for
- 6:17Speaker 2: this one. Would we be hearing about this so much
- 6:22Speaker 2: if we didn't have such a quiet, knock on wood,
- 6:25Speaker 2: hurricane season? That's the question to ask yourself. But now,
- 6:28Speaker 2: of course, we're going to go to this, and this
- 6:29Speaker 2: is just last week. This is the end of last week,
- 6:32Speaker 2: the work week. Oh, don't forget about what just happened.
- 6:36Speaker 2: They just got out of the, and it all coincided
- 6:38Speaker 2: with the U.N., Although those European leaders, they were all
- 6:41Speaker 2: in town.
- 6:42Speaker 1: They coincided the U.N. meeting with the climate meeting. Oh, oh, absolutely.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Well, let's go to Boston Mayor Michelle Wu and what
- 6:52Speaker 2: she said about this thing going up. You know exactly
- 6:54Speaker 2: what she's going to say before you.
- 6:55Speaker 5: It is quite rare that we will need to be
- 6:59Speaker 5: we would need to be preparing for a nor'easter as
- 7:02Speaker 5: early as September.
- 7:03Speaker 1: So.
- 7:04Speaker 5: I'm returning from Climate Week in New York City, where
- 7:08Speaker 5: with other mayors, I was sharing some of the actions
- 7:12Speaker 5: that Boston's been taking to be prepared for extreme weather,
- 7:14Speaker 5: whether that was major heat waves that happened all through
- 7:16Speaker 5: the summer while we were hosting the World Cup and
- 7:19Speaker 5: other big events or snowstorms that are breaking historic records.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And she just came from Climate Week. That's right.
- 7:29Speaker 2: It goes on to say about the climate crisis and
- 7:31Speaker 2: how this is extremely unusual and The same old lines
- 7:34Speaker 2: they always hear.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Is it really, though? Is it really? Right there you
- 7:37Speaker 1: should ask yourself. Well, a big storm. No doubt about that.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Affected, now we know, mostly coastal residents. That's a serious thing.
- 7:46Speaker 2: You know, you bought a beach on the house or
- 7:48Speaker 2: a beach on the coast, on the shore, and erosion's bad,
- 7:51Speaker 2: bad storm, coastal flooding.
- 7:53Speaker 1: It was bad, you know.
- 7:57Speaker 2: But anything unusual than what's happened before, that's the main
- 8:01Speaker 2: question we need to ask. So this was interesting. Here's
- 8:04Speaker 2: one of my new follows. This guy's name is Chris Martz, okay?
- 8:08Speaker 1: He's a meteorologist.
- 8:10Speaker 2: He now has, I thought this was interesting, because he's
- 8:11Speaker 2: just a regular dude who happens to have a lot
- 8:13Speaker 2: of historical research at his fingertips.
- 8:16Speaker 1: He's a meteorologist.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Well, the New York Post got a hold of this
- 8:19Speaker 2: guy even before all this, and they called him the
- 8:21Speaker 2: anti-Greta Thunberg. You know, the kid they put on, the
- 8:26Speaker 2: Swedish girl they put on, the teenager, to tell you
- 8:29Speaker 2: that the world was going to end because of the
- 8:30Speaker 2: climate crisis?
- 8:32Speaker 1: Because.
- 8:33Speaker 2: You know why it was her, because you can't attack
- 8:35Speaker 2: a teenage girl in the media.
- 8:37Speaker 1: That's why. I thought this was interesting.
- 8:41Speaker 2: He went on to say, in response to Boston Mayor
- 8:46Speaker 2: Wu's comment there about coming out of the climate week
- 8:49Speaker 2: in New York, it's extremely unusual. We have to save
- 8:53Speaker 2: the earth to prevent storms like this. He had an
- 8:56Speaker 2: interesting comment, and he said, Anybody who thinks that Nor'easters
- 9:00Speaker 2: are stronger than they used to be obviously has no
- 9:02Speaker 2: clue what New England winters were like in the 18th
- 9:05Speaker 2: and 19th centuries.
- 9:07Speaker 1: The blizzard of.
- 9:07Speaker 2: 1888, Chris Marth says, would like a word. Again, he's
- 9:12Speaker 2: a meteorologist, but he also does historical weather information. Well,
- 9:16Speaker 2: I followed that guy right away because I said, This
- 9:18Speaker 2: is interesting because he has the actual data to look
- 9:21Speaker 2: back on this entire thing.
- 9:22Speaker 4: And.
- 9:23Speaker 2: And not only that, did he actually kind of downplay
- 9:26Speaker 2: what Boston Mayor Michelle Wu was talking about and going
- 9:29Speaker 2: right to climate crisis as we're talking about a fall
- 9:32Speaker 2: storm that affected mostly coastal people. Not only that, but
- 9:36Speaker 2: he actually brought the research to talk about all this stuff.
- 9:38Speaker 2: And he pushed back on the Boston Globe, another media outlet,
- 9:42Speaker 2: which is basically a sister outlet of the New York Times.
- 9:44Speaker 2: They're all saying the same thing about what climate crisis causing.
- 9:49Speaker 1: This kind of nor'easter. Why it's so strange, right? Interesting.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And he did a video about it to call out
- 9:55Speaker 2: directly and say the Boston Globe is lying.
- 9:58Speaker 1: This is part one of the video.
- 9:59Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff gets into science-y research and history,
- 10:02Speaker 2: but it's interesting that he pushed back and is getting
- 10:04Speaker 2: so much attention on this.
- 10:06Speaker 1: This guy's name is Chris Martz. Interesting follow.
- 10:08Speaker 4: Weekend, there has been a powerful nor'easter spinning off the U.S.
- 10:11Speaker 4: East Coast. It has brought significant coastal flooding to the
- 10:14Speaker 4: Jersey Shore, which I'm sure you've seen the videos of.
- 10:17Speaker 4: But I also saw this headline from the Boston Globe
- 10:19Speaker 4: yesterday where they said that man-made climate change is causing
- 10:23Speaker 4: nor'easters to become stronger and more intense and more frequent,
- 10:27Speaker 4: and that this storm fits that pattern. This claim is
- 10:31Speaker 4: based on.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Now he gets into, so that's interesting. So he takes
- 10:34Speaker 2: on with his own research... the Boston Globe, major media outlet,
- 10:39Speaker 2: to push back on this climate change is creating strange
- 10:44Speaker 2: weather storms and making nor'easters stronger than they ever were.
- 10:47Speaker 2: He says absolutely not because the climate models that they're
- 10:51Speaker 2: basing all this on are wrong. Now, this hits a
- 10:54Speaker 2: hot button for him because that's what he does is
- 10:56Speaker 2: the research of past historical storms and understands why when
- 11:01Speaker 2: they use those to compare it to today, it's wrong.
- 11:03Speaker 2: This is pretty, you know, Pretty heady stuff here, but
- 11:07Speaker 2: he explains it.
- 11:08Speaker 4: The problem with their methodology, however, is that they didn't
- 11:10Speaker 4: really look at actual observations. They used the ERA-5 reanalysis
- 11:15Speaker 4: data set, which goes back to 1940. For those of
- 11:17Speaker 4: you who don't know what reanalysis is, in a nutshell,
- 11:20Speaker 4: it's just a retrospective weather forecast. You take real observations
- 11:24Speaker 4: from ground-based weather stations and ships, weather balloon launches to
- 11:28Speaker 4: get the 3D atmosphere, and you also have, in later years,
- 11:31Speaker 4: satellite observations to work with. You take all that data...
- 11:35Speaker 4: and you put it into a computer model, and then
- 11:37Speaker 4: you run that simulation forward in time, and it reconstructs
- 11:41Speaker 4: the atmosphere, and it creates a gridded data set. It's
- 11:44Speaker 4: pretty cool stuff, but there are some limitations.
- 11:48Speaker 1: So here's the thing. That's like above my head. It
- 11:50Speaker 1: might be above yours.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Maybe you understand it better, but here's the takeaway for
- 11:54Speaker 2: the people who will always say they will just read
- 11:55Speaker 2: the headline. They will just take that one look. You're
- 11:57Speaker 2: going to run into people who will say, oh, climate
- 12:00Speaker 2: change is causing these nor'easters, and the storms, and the,
- 12:04Speaker 2: The hurricanes are worse. And all you have to say
- 12:06Speaker 2: is this, and this is what he's getting to. The
- 12:08Speaker 2: climate models they base these on are wrong. That's my takeaway.
- 12:12Speaker 2: That's what I tell people. And they'll be, no, no, oh,
- 12:14Speaker 2: you're a climate denier. No, but actually, they're with the reason.
- 12:16Speaker 2: If you want to get into it further, you can
- 12:17Speaker 2: just point to that kind of stuff. Very, very interesting,
- 12:20Speaker 2: isn't it? But, again, for like the 18th time I've
- 12:23Speaker 2: said so far in 20 minutes, 15, sorry, I'm not
- 12:27Speaker 2: going to discount the power of storms.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Obviously, it's important. Obviously. You can't, you know.
- 12:33Speaker 2: You can't go through things like this and actually say
- 12:35Speaker 2: that it's not going to affect anybody.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And I think it's a good thing that we get
- 12:38Speaker 1: advance information. I really do.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We get advance information about this ahead of time just
- 12:42Speaker 2: with a caveat. And that's all I'm saying is that
- 12:44Speaker 2: you have to actually put all of this in perspective
- 12:47Speaker 2: and understand the season we're in now and what they've
- 12:50Speaker 2: said in the past about this kind of stuff. We've
- 12:53Speaker 2: had a very quiet, knock on wood, thank God, hurricane season.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Very quiet so far. Here's the most relevant question, which
- 13:02Speaker 2: may anger you. Did they even give so much media
- 13:06Speaker 2: attention to this.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Record nor'easter if we didn't have such a quiet season?
- 13:13Speaker 1: I'm just here to ask questions. That's just something to ask.
- 13:16Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
- 13:18Speaker 2: And as far as calling this the storm of the
- 13:21Speaker 2: century and climate is doing this, what they're basing that
- 13:24Speaker 2: on is wrong. That Chris Martz guy is very interesting.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Making a lot of people angry, too.
- 13:30Speaker 1: But isn't it great?
- 13:31Speaker 2: This may be the biggest takeaway of all is that
- 13:33Speaker 2: we actually have the guts to question this stuff now.
- 13:36Speaker 2: And because of things like this, because of meteorologists like
- 13:40Speaker 2: this who come with research and data and his own
- 13:42Speaker 2: take to push back on what we were forced to
- 13:45Speaker 2: believe about climate for all those years, now we can
- 13:48Speaker 2: at least ask questions. Hey, you may completely disagree with
- 13:52Speaker 2: somebody like that or me or somebody else, but that's
- 13:54Speaker 2: the great thing.
- 13:55Speaker 1: You have the ability to make your own decisions on this.
- 13:58Speaker 2: What I was fighting against was not even being able
- 14:00Speaker 2: to or allowed to even question whether we're getting this
- 14:03Speaker 2: information from. Now we have all kinds of questions about it.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Doesn't mean we should be complacent. Absolutely not.
- 14:10Speaker 1: But it's great that we can ask questions about this.
- 14:12Speaker 1: And we are. So cool.
- 14:14Speaker 2: But anyway, if you're a coastal person, I hope you
- 14:17Speaker 2: are safe. I hope everything's good. Other than that, if
- 14:19Speaker 2: you had a beautiful weekend. By the way, sorry Northeast
- 14:23Speaker 2: and Coastal Carolina. This created a beautiful weekend for us
- 14:25Speaker 2: in the Southeast.
- 14:26Speaker 1: It was awesome.
- 14:27Speaker 2: In fact, we had a bunch of, we had weather
- 14:28Speaker 2: people in my area in Palm Beach County who actually
- 14:31Speaker 2: were going to the waves to surf, enjoying the hell
- 14:33Speaker 2: out of it. They were the meteorologists down here. Just
- 14:37Speaker 2: goes to show you different perspectives on this. So all
- 14:39Speaker 2: of that moisture got sucked up to the northeast and
- 14:41Speaker 2: it gave us a great, beautiful little break in the humidity.
- 14:44Speaker 1: So thank you on that. But storm of the century,
- 14:48Speaker 1: let's slow the roll on that thing. Maybe it was just,
- 14:51Speaker 1: maybe it was a little too hyped up. Extra fine
- 14:53Speaker 1: to me. Appreciate you, as always.
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