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"Redistricting Case with Ken C" (Friday, January 30, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The house, cool writer, can dangerous threats and hate less stop.
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  Speaker 2: First thing today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville, your.
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  Speaker 4: Joe, thank you for letting us be of service to
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  Speaker 4: you this morning on the program that tells you what
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  Speaker 4: went on, and then of course give you our analysis
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  Speaker 4: of the evidence left behind in the debris field. And
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  Speaker 4: from there we will ask you to tell us how
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  Speaker 4: it's impacting.
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  Speaker 1: You where you are.
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  Speaker 4: A special presentation of first Things First uh and our
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  Speaker 4: first things redistricting you here the most outrageous lies about
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  Speaker 4: it and from the Election Transparency Initiative. The Great Kim
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  Speaker 4: Kochinelli joins us former acting DHS Secretary and Attorney General
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  Speaker 4: of the Commonwealth of Virginia, State senator there for a
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  Speaker 4: while too. That's from the first place I met Ken.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing this morning, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Warm enough?
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  Speaker 1: Warm enough?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So earlier this week and as we watched the
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  Speaker 4: dozen or so states that are still in various flux
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  Speaker 4: regarding what is going to happen with their redistricting. Court
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  Speaker 4: case that I know some of the functionaries of was
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  Speaker 4: ruled on in Daswell, Virginia judge saying that the process
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  Speaker 4: that the Democrats used to circumvent a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: protections in keeping a constitutional amendment something that is upon process,
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  Speaker 4: something that requires time and forethought. But they wanted to
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  Speaker 4: circumvent it and take a four year process and make
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  Speaker 4: it a four month process. Can he ruled that they
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  Speaker 4: broke the law in doing it, and are breaking the
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  Speaker 4: law by trying to make court clerks take a vote
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  Speaker 4: in April on a constitutional amendment that they cannot post
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  Speaker 4: for ninety days because there won't be ninety days for it.
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  Speaker 4: Can A lot of conservatives I know say, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 4: a nice ruling. It's nice to get a win from
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  Speaker 4: the judge, but he's wrong on the law. You know
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  Speaker 4: the law pretty good. You were the law for quite
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  Speaker 4: a while. So what do you see in this ruling
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  Speaker 4: out of Daswell.
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 5: First of all, the judge ruled on three separate independent
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  Speaker 5: bases that the way the Democrats have gone about advancing
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  Speaker 5: their redistricting Constitutional Amendment violates first their own special session resolution. Second,
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  Speaker 5: it violates a statute of Virginia that you were just
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  Speaker 5: referencing that requires ninety days notice prior to an election
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  Speaker 5: of vote on members of the General Assembly for a
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  Speaker 5: constitutional amendment or for the constitutional amendment itself. And third
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  Speaker 5: that there needs to be an intervening election between two
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  Speaker 5: efforts to pass the amendment language.
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  Speaker 6: And they passed it I want to say, October.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty first, six weeks after voting had begun in Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: And so the judge also ruled that that election could
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  Speaker 5: not count as an intervening election because a million people
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  Speaker 5: had already voted. And so I fully expect, well, first
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  Speaker 5: of all, is not common for a judge to go
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  Speaker 5: beyond ruling on one reason.
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  Speaker 6: To reach an outcome.
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  Speaker 5: But the judge, I presume, knows that this is on
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  Speaker 5: a tight time schedule, and they're in his mind, presumably
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  Speaker 5: a judge, that there wasn't time to go up to
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  Speaker 5: the Supreme Court and come back down, and go up
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  Speaker 5: and come back down and so forth. So he ruled
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  Speaker 5: on everything in front of him. And so now it
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  Speaker 5: goes to the Virginia Supreme Court, and this is no,
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  Speaker 5: slam Dunk. I agree with his analysis of all three issues,
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  Speaker 5: but there is a more than one hundred year old
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  Speaker 5: Virginia Supreme Court case that found that you have to
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  Speaker 5: wait until after the vote is over. They consider the
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  Speaker 5: people voting on the amendment as part of the legislative process,
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  Speaker 5: and the analogy used in that case was actually a
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  Speaker 5: very good one. We wouldn't we wouldn't rule on a
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  Speaker 5: bill and its constitutionality after it left the legislature, but
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  Speaker 5: while it was awaiting the governor's signature, because it's not
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  Speaker 5: a law yet, right, And the basic ruling is the same,
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  Speaker 5: But this one incorporates the people's participation as part of
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  Speaker 5: the process, and of course when you mend the constitution,
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  Speaker 5: the governor isn't.
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  Speaker 6: Part of the process, right.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that this could be delayed until after
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  Speaker 5: the vote. But I do think fundamentally that the passage
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  Speaker 5: in late October was in the middle of an election,
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  Speaker 5: not prior to an intervening election, And when it's all
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  Speaker 5: said and done, I think that that base for the
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  Speaker 5: judge's ruling is likely to be upheld. The next most
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  Speaker 5: likely basis for the court to rule in the same
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  Speaker 5: direction is that the General Assembly voted on this constitutional
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  Speaker 5: amendment beyond the scope of its own special session boundaries.
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  Speaker 4: Which was about the budget. If I'm not mistaken, correct.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, that's right. And it takes two thirds of the
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  Speaker 5: legislature to call a special session. So as the judge said,
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  Speaker 5: you can just call a special session and trick the minority.
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  Speaker 5: The majority could trick the minority of coming into session
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  Speaker 5: and then pass whatever they want by majority.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 6: No, if you want.
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  Speaker 5: To add to the subject matter of a special session,
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  Speaker 5: it has to be by a two thirds vote. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the next most likely basis for the
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  Speaker 4: First thing today by Joe Thomas. Thank you for allowing
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  Speaker 4: me to be of service to you this morning as
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  Speaker 4: we gather together and try to make sense of it all.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of emails, a couple of text messages there,
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  Speaker 4: and this one hamp in Vero Beach. President Trump is confirmed,
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  Speaker 4: you said, giving me the heads up we were going
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  Speaker 4: to get in to Kevin Walsh as the next FED
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  Speaker 4: chair nominee, not renominating the previous FED chair Jeral Powell.
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  Speaker 4: There also, then what becomes of the Commission and the
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  Speaker 4: various federal reserves. There and this one, I'm not sure this.
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  Speaker 7: Was.
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  Speaker 4: This is from Terry in Portland. You know when you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned anarchy, anarchy is mindless and has no reason other
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  Speaker 4: than to disturb. Sedition is different. Sedition has a message
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  Speaker 4: and an ending and a goal. These people are seditionists.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it's a cart horse situation, Terry,
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  Speaker 4: And I appreciate you listening. And I'm glad all the
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  Speaker 4: issues out there on Freedom nine seventy have been squared
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  Speaker 4: away because I think the seditionists are trying to tear
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  Speaker 4: down whatever structures we have left regarding law and order
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  Speaker 4: and rule of law in the United States to bring
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  Speaker 4: on the anarchy. So again, it's a card hornse situation.
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  Speaker 4: So and I appreciate your text message there.
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  Speaker 1: This one a.
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  Speaker 4: This one a reaction to our discussion about whether or
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  Speaker 4: not being convinced or drawn into the cult of these
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  Speaker 4: open borders people. It's not psychological, it's demonic. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: there is a case to be made for you know,
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  Speaker 4: what happens to somebody, you know, when they become susceptible
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  Speaker 4: to manipulation, to that kind of thing. Uh, And I
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  Speaker 4: understand the the demonic we live in the devil's purview
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  Speaker 4: and people forget that, you know, people say, how can
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  Speaker 4: God let this happen? We are living here on God's
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  Speaker 4: plan that kN Kochinelli is on with us. And we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about the constitutional amendment attempt in Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: What's one of.
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  Speaker 4: Those states where it's a little pricklier than just voting
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  Speaker 4: and saying, yeah, we feel like redistricting like they did
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  Speaker 4: in let's see North Carolina, California, Missouri. Well, California, they
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  Speaker 4: had to get the referendum first, but Missouri, Ohio, Texas
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  Speaker 4: the court order, and Utah and then Maryland, South Carolina
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  Speaker 4: and Washington are still in process.
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  Speaker 1: In Florida, I believe correct.
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  Speaker 5: They are definitely still in process, and you know, so
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  Speaker 5: we'll see how some of these others play out. I
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  Speaker 5: would note that the US Supreme Court has had a
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  Speaker 5: hands off approach to these cases. They're not in joining them,
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  Speaker 5: and they did it with both Texas and California. So
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  Speaker 5: both sides have benefited from that hands off approach in
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  Speaker 5: one circumstance. But that means you can expect to see
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  Speaker 5: that play out.
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  Speaker 6: For the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 4: So this Virginia cases, it goes to the Virginia Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things that a lot of my conservative
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  Speaker 4: friends are pointing to, and I want your opinion on it,
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  Speaker 4: because you, unlike them, seem to think that this will
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  Speaker 4: eventually be upheld through the appellate process. Ken at the
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  Speaker 4: Election Transparency Initiative. I think this fits into your name
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  Speaker 4: because one of the things at question is whether the
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  Speaker 4: election is the forty five day period in Virginia. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's not mind boggling, or if it's election day,
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  Speaker 4: and the leftist speaker Scott etc. And Louis Lucas are saying, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: that's just a that's just an open window. The election
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  Speaker 4: only happens on election day because that's the day we
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  Speaker 4: tabulate the votes. But to a voter, when you talk
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  Speaker 4: about transparency, I'm voting, so therefore it's election day. So
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  Speaker 4: I mean it sounds like Bill Clinton's old It depends
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  Speaker 4: on what the definition of it is is.
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  Speaker 1: But well, any weight even better.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, you should talk to our friend Pat McSweeney. Twenty
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  Speaker 5: five years ago. He was involved in litigation all over
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  Speaker 5: the country. Now, mind you, this is before forty five
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  Speaker 5: day elections. In Minnesota's forty six day election.
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  Speaker 6: And they were.
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  Speaker 5: Seeking to have election day declared the entire election, and
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  Speaker 5: that was universally rejected.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So.
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  Speaker 5: By that I mean in several circuits based on Supreme
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  Speaker 5: Court ruling and meaning they applied Supreme Court election logic
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  Speaker 5: to a circuit Court of Appeals fourth circuit type level
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  Speaker 5: of rulings and it was universally held be the opposite. Well,
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  Speaker 5: here we are twenty five years later, and it's the
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  Speaker 5: Liberal Democrats who want to have election day declared the
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  Speaker 5: whole election. The US Supreme Court said, no, an election
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  Speaker 5: is the whole process of the election. It isn't just
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  Speaker 5: the last day, and because people are voting before that
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  Speaker 5: and so forth. So unless Virginia is going to determine
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  Speaker 5: our whether Virginia Supreme Court will determine an election to
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  Speaker 5: be something very different from how this has been resolved
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  Speaker 5: at the federal level, which can happen. State is a
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  Speaker 5: different sovereign, but the English is still the English.
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  Speaker 6: So what is an election?
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  Speaker 5: This is one of those areas where I would expect
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  Speaker 5: to see the Virginia Supreme Court land in basically the
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  Speaker 5: same place that federal courts have when they have addressed
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  Speaker 5: this question. And if they do to pass a constitutional amendment,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to have to have passed it before voting
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  Speaker 5: opens forty five days before election day, because, as you
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  Speaker 5: and I have talked about before, we don't have an
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  Speaker 5: election day in Virginia anymore. We have an election season. Now.
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  Speaker 5: One funny thing is it's the Democrats who gave us
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  Speaker 5: this election season.
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  Speaker 6: Last time.
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  Speaker 5: They had control of both bodies and the governorship, and
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  Speaker 5: now it's going to come back and haunt them a
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  Speaker 5: bit and it is overdone. Just for the record, we
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  Speaker 5: don't need a forty five day election.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: I know that even if you.
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  Speaker 5: Believe in early in person voting for no reason, a
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  Speaker 5: week or two would be more than adequate.
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  Speaker 4: No right, as the director of the Election Transparency Initiative, Ken,
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  Speaker 4: I have to ask. Save Act finally got filed in
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  Speaker 4: the House. Pleased dubious, concerned water down.
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  Speaker 5: You tell us where you are, please, Dan Dubius. So
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  Speaker 5: it passed on a bipartisan basis out of the House.
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  Speaker 5: There were four or five Democrats who voted for it,
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  Speaker 5: two Congresses in a row, by the way, and for
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  Speaker 5: the first time. Majority Leader Thune talked about it yesterday
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  Speaker 5: about getting it passed through the Senate. So getting the
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  Speaker 5: Senate leadership to pay even pay attention to it is
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  Speaker 5: an immense hurdle. Frankly, that's a milestone. So for the
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  Speaker 5: first time I'm seeing the opportunity that it may be
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  Speaker 5: attached to must pass legislation. And for your viewers in
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  Speaker 5: Rio Linda, as we were talking about Rush Limbaugh earlier,
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  Speaker 4: We mentioned the Fabian socialists versus the Marxist socialists, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Terry writes in I'm confused. I thought Marxism was socialism. No,
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  Speaker 4: Marxism is an application of socialism. So is Fabianism.
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  Speaker 1: It is a It is an.
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  Speaker 4: Approach to collectivism, to redistributionism, to authoritarianism. Fabians and I
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  Speaker 4: forget the Roman. There was a Roman general that gives
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  Speaker 4: the name to Fabians, like fabus or fabulous or mister
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  Speaker 4: fabulous general.
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  Speaker 1: Fabulous to you, young man.
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  Speaker 4: But it was an a Roman general whose tactic was
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  Speaker 4: not to battle cities, but to invade them through osmosis,
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  Speaker 4: to move people in, and then little by little those
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: people would gain influence in the community and get elected
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  Speaker 4: to office, and then when they wanted Rome to take over,
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  Speaker 4: they just voted for it because there was a majority
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  Speaker 4: of the city council that would vote for it because
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  Speaker 4: they had been infiltrated by these by General fabulous Is
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  Speaker 4: I know that's not his real name. Is is like
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  Speaker 4: Fabus or something like that, And that was how he battled.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I'm not gonna kill I'm not gonna use
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  Speaker 4: my soldiers. I'm going to train my soldiers up for infiltration.
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  Speaker 4: They'll take over.
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  Speaker 1: Go back to our friend, uh Besminoff.
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  Speaker 4: This was this was the ideological subversion that the Soviet
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  Speaker 4: Union was using. The Soviet Union realized that gunfire was
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: not a good way to take over, that it was
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  Speaker 4: better to infiltrate and then take over the authority of
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  Speaker 4: the government. This is Mao as well. Mao is a
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  Speaker 4: Fabian because he he know the long long march through
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  Speaker 4: the Institution is perhaps the most famous out of his
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  Speaker 4: little red book.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's just got.
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  Speaker 4: There's a Quintus Fabius Maximus Vercosis. That's the general Quintus
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Fabius Maximus Vercosis used his tactics against the Carthenians Carthinigens.
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  Speaker 1: Leaving vowels out. Hey, Alex, I'd like to buy a vowel.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the most famous application of his tactic. And
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  Speaker 4: so the Fabians take a slow, long look at taking over.
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  Speaker 4: What has happened is the Fabians in the American Democratic Party,
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  Speaker 4: and there are Fabian Republicans as well, because American Fabianism
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  Speaker 4: views the government as the answer. It's just to which
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  Speaker 4: direction do we push the government? Do we push it
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  Speaker 4: this way or that way? But both of them seek
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  Speaker 4: to have the government be the answer, the redress of
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  Speaker 4: all grievances. This is why it was important for Fabian
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: thought to take over both political parties, so that it
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: was just a matter of degree which direction, and it
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  Speaker 4: was all going to basically float around the middle anyway.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: The Fabian society, by the way, their crest is actually
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: literally a wolf in sheep's clothing. Marxists, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 4: believe in revolution.
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  Speaker 1: Do it now.
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  Speaker 4: Round them all up because Mao allowed some of that
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  Speaker 4: to happen too. I mean, you look at the purges
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  Speaker 4: during the Chinese Revolution. Tens of thousands of people dead
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: both in Russia and in China under the revolution because.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: They said, no, I can decide for myself what I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: want to do. We don't kill them here, We cancel them,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 4: Some of them accidentally hang themselves in lockjail cells with
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: nothing in there to make a noose out of.
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  Speaker 1: But some of us just get canceled. And that is
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  Speaker 1: the purge, is the permanent.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Scarlet letter that says, don't listen to their radio show.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: They said the words civil war. They said that the
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: illegals that were allowing into the country are going to
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: be a permanent underclass. Yeah, because you guys are so
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: much smarter than the authoritarian leftists were in the eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 4: They actually paid to have the slaves shipped over.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 4: You just opened up the border, offered them a free
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  Speaker 4: smartphone app to sign up for asylum, and now they
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: are a permanent underclass. And when Ice shows up to
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: arrest them, we protest because all of a sudden, I
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: might have to pay more for my half cap lap
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: slap whatever it is, mocha choca latte, because the dish
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: crew is all of a sudden making a living wage
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: by the American standards. And the same leftists who were
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: protesting in favor of cheap labor to clean up after
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: us are the ones who marched for those higher wages
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  Speaker 4: not two years ago. We must have a living wage,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: and so now to counteract that, so I can still
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: pay for my coffee without getting a bank loan. We
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: want illegal immigration. We want a permanent underclass of people
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: who will never be able to be self fulfilling. And
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: you have the two sides, the Fabian Republicans saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we can come up with a pathway to create
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  Speaker 4: a way to.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not pay them full wages.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: What do you think, three fifths, It's been done before.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, we're heading towards the just a reunion, a reboot.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Everyone loves reboots on televisions and movies these days. We're
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: just going to reboot the American Civil War like an
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: ember left after a forest fire somewhere in the brush
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  Speaker 4: of Appomattox, Virginia.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: As Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson and Ulysses S.
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  Speaker 4: Grant and they rode off into the sunset, there was
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  Speaker 4: one ember sitting there in the brush, waiting to get
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: the wind up high enough to catch the brush and
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: reinflame the fires. And here we are, same side, same issues.
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  Speaker 4: Everything anyway, I appreciate you joining in. Actually that Don
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  Speaker 4: Lemon story, Terry, that's from last week, but it is
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  Speaker 4: a funny story. Maybe we will get into it Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 4: Until then, so long and thanks for.
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