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Dave Williams - Taxpayer Protection Alliance · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Seven oh five fifty five Car City Talk Station regular
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Speaker 1: next guest from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. You can find
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Speaker 1: them online at Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Dave Williams, my friend,
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Morning Show. A very happy Friday
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Speaker 2: You sir, good morning. And I feel like that's my
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Speaker 1: Dave Williams, we are going to dive on into f
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Speaker 1: let's see here, democracy and artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. This is fascinating, Brian, because obviously artificial intelligence AI
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Speaker 2: is really kind of taking over and it has been
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Speaker 2: for a number of years and I think that's what
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Speaker 2: people don't realize is that we have been using artificial
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Speaker 2: intelligence a lot for the past ten, fifteen, twenty years.
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, spell Check, that's AI. I mean, obviously
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Speaker 2: the most simple of AI, but it is, and it's
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Speaker 2: making businesses more efficient, it's improving people's lives. But that
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to what the
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Speaker 2: potential is. But also some of the pitfalls and some
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Speaker 2: of the problems with AI, and a lot of people
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Speaker 2: are concerned what.
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Speaker 1: Are the pitfalls and problems? Since you mentioned spellcheck, I
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Speaker 1: think it is responsible for dumbing people down a lot.
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Speaker 1: I have become less able to spell a given probably
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Speaker 1: more complex word. I can still spell the word the
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Speaker 1: but if I'm thinking of a word that typically can
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Speaker 1: be misspelled, you used to have to rely on your
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Speaker 1: own intellect and memory and or just go to a
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Speaker 1: dictionary to look it up, which I think serve to
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Speaker 1: help improve your intellect, because you don't have to do
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Speaker 1: that every time. Once you learn how to properly spell
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Speaker 1: a word, if you're using spell check, it's just like
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Speaker 1: it's lazy boom and you move on and you didn't
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Speaker 1: even think about it.
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Speaker 2: Just ye say and there's grammar check. I mean, now
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Speaker 2: you have I'm just knowing which is uh, now it's humbling,
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Speaker 2: just say the least.
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Speaker 1: It's humbling. But I think that is an often overlooked
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Speaker 1: feature if it's out in the world. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are ignoring that as a feature because
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Speaker 1: you see, you see grammically and grammically incorrect things all
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Speaker 1: the time, grammatically in correct things all the time, speaking
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Speaker 1: in grammar.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of yes, absolutely, And you know I do a
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Speaker 2: lot of editing on a day to day basis, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: I've seen some doozies.
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Speaker 1: All right, Sorry about driving down that cull to sect,
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Speaker 1: but let's move on with this one. What's going on?
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Speaker 1: What's what's further to this? We got stuck on spellcheck
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Speaker 1: thanks to my skill.
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Speaker 2: Really, the the democratization of open AI and making sure
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Speaker 2: that there are guard rails right is right now. The
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Speaker 2: States are looking to regulate artificial intelligence that you know,
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Speaker 2: fifty states, you know, thousands of different bills. That's chaos, Brian,
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Speaker 2: That's absolute chaos. Because if you're a business or you know,
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Speaker 2: big or small, and you're trying to deal with Ohio Kentucky,
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Speaker 2: and they have two different rules when it comes to
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Speaker 2: AI and how you can use it. That makes no sense.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not a big fan of the federal
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Speaker 2: government legislating, but there has to be a national framework
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Speaker 2: to put these guardrails up on AI and what we
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Speaker 2: what they can do, what they can't do. So I
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Speaker 2: think that's where and I hope that's the direction we're going. Now,
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Speaker 2: what happened a few years ago, This is when Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden was still president. He saw the movie Mission Impossible,
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Speaker 2: where AI took over the world. And I mean, I'm
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Speaker 2: not lying about this. It freaked him out and he said,
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Speaker 2: we have to do something. And whenever the government says
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Speaker 2: we have to do something, of course, it sends a
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Speaker 2: chill down your spine. But when it comes to AI
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Speaker 2: and really you know, privacy, internet privacy and some other issues,
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Speaker 2: the federal government needs to take the lead on this.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it's just you can't have a patchwork
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Speaker 2: of regulations across the country.
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Speaker 1: And I understand that question is the growing opposition to AI.
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Speaker 1: Generally speaking, price of electricity has gone up. People fear
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Speaker 1: that the AI centers in their neighborhood's going to cause
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Speaker 1: their bills to go back up. I know that's a great,
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Speaker 1: a terrible thing, and that may be one of the
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Speaker 1: great reasons for resisting it. However, this I point, I
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Speaker 1: have concerns about AI generally speaking too. But the world
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Speaker 1: is moving in this direction. If we don't get on
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Speaker 1: top of it and get ahead of the rest of
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Speaker 1: the world, and we refuse to adopt this type of technology,
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Speaker 1: love it or hate it, it's coming, and our failure
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Speaker 1: to adopt it may be and motivated in part by
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Speaker 1: some propaganda coming from around the world to tell us
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Speaker 1: to not adopt it. I mean, there's all kinds of
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Speaker 1: propaganda floating around, and people get ideas in their head
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Speaker 1: that it's terrible and the end of the world's coming.
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Speaker 1: But you know who benefits from that if we don't
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Speaker 1: adopt it, China, for example, the Chinese Communist Party and
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Speaker 1: other foreign nations. I mean, you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what's going to become of this, but apparently we need
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Speaker 1: to be part of it, or if we don't, it's
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Speaker 1: to our own peril. Is there truth behind my ramblings there,
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Speaker 1: Dave had Dave Williams.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of truth behind that. And let's look
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Speaker 2: at the data centers, and you know, people are concerned
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Speaker 2: about the electricity usage. Absolutely should be right, but there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of myths and realities with data centers or
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Speaker 2: you know, you look at the water usage, and yes,
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Speaker 2: they use a lot of water. You know what uses
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Speaker 2: more water? Golf courses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but use a lot. I'm glad you brought that
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Speaker 1: up because fun fact, the golf course water goes into
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Speaker 1: the ground and therefore you can't use it or to
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Speaker 1: any other purpose. It's basically quote unquote gone, although the
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Speaker 1: plants enjoy the benefit of it. With AI centers, the
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Speaker 1: water only cools the equipment, but then is returned back
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Speaker 1: to the water source. Am I wrong?
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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right. And I don't see anyone with
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Speaker 2: pitchforks at a golf course trying to shut them down.
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Speaker 2: And don't give me data centers.
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Speaker 1: I don't golf, Dave, and I choose not the golf rather,
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Speaker 1: but you know I know a lot of people who do.
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Speaker 1: They will be upset by that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, you know, data centers, they're hiring
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Speaker 2: people of really good jobs. They're talking about six figure jobs.
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Speaker 2: And again, you know, no free ride for any tech company,
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Speaker 2: for any company that they don't get to, you know,
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Speaker 2: mooch off of the electric grid. They have to pay
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Speaker 2: their fair share and more, and a lot of them
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Speaker 2: are willing to do that. But you know it can't
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Speaker 2: be corporate welfare, Brian. We can't say okay, big tech,
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Speaker 2: whatever you want, you get, That's not how it works.
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Speaker 2: They have to pay for the upgrades and make sure
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Speaker 2: that electricity prices don't surge in areas because of the
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Speaker 2: data centers.
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Speaker 1: Well, and there's some good that can come of this.
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Speaker 1: I loved the fact that the folks behind the AI
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Speaker 1: data centers are no longer global warming climate change fanatics.
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Speaker 1: They realize that we do need an abundance of power.
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Speaker 1: Windmills and solar panels aren't going to provide it. Hey,
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Speaker 1: how about we bring along and here my listening audience goes,
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Speaker 1: we know what's common, Thomas, small modular reactors. They are
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Speaker 1: embracing the idea that we should get hit the ground
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Speaker 1: running with small modular reactors, small footprint. Currently they've pretty
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Speaker 1: much close to zero radioactive waste and they produce no
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Speaker 1: carbon dioxide. Problem solved.
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Speaker 2: Very cool, And they've been talking about this for a
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Speaker 2: few years now, and I can't wait until the first
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Speaker 2: one is deployed, so people can see that these things
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Speaker 2: actually work and that they're not dependent upon the grid
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Speaker 2: and other people's electricity. And you know, this is something
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Speaker 2: that you know, the first company that's able to do this,
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Speaker 2: I think, is just going to pave the way for
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Speaker 2: everybody else. But of course we have federal, state and
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Speaker 2: local governments standing in the way when it comes to permitting,
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Speaker 2: you know, so many issues, brianding, you know, permitting water.
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Speaker 2: It's just very complicated, but it's important to talk about.
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Speaker 1: It's really important to talk about. Again, we're going in
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Speaker 1: that direction. I guess the larger problem is it's also impacting.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we realize that our grid is insufficient to
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Speaker 1: handle whatever power increases we want to put on them.
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Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of rebuilding and upgrades to
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Speaker 1: do in this country. It's going to come at a
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Speaker 1: great expense, and it's going to take a real long
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Speaker 1: time to get to where we need to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, when I look at AI, I
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Speaker 2: look at it as a tool and just back you know,
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Speaker 2: hundreds of years ago, when the first shovel was created,
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Speaker 2: the shovel was a tool. Now you could pick up
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Speaker 2: that shovel and hit someone over the head with it, right,
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Speaker 2: You could still use it as a weapon. You can
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Speaker 2: use AI as a weapon. But it's it's helping people.
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Speaker 2: It's helping business, it's helping small business. That's what I
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Speaker 2: don't think people kind of grasp is that AI is
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Speaker 2: helping small business be more efficient. And that's good. We
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Speaker 2: want more businesses to prosper and to thrive.
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Speaker 1: We do. And then there the correlator to that is
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Speaker 1: businesses often prosper and survive because things like AI streamline
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Speaker 1: processes and therefore you do not need to hire someone
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Speaker 1: to do something for the job. You can get AI
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Speaker 1: to do it. And that's the rub and the whole analysis,
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Speaker 1: isn't it.
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Speaker 2: It is? And as this society we have always adjusted,
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Speaker 2: you know, the Industrial revolution, you know, we figured out
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Speaker 2: that it doesn't take away jobs, it creates jobs. And
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Speaker 2: I think AI is going to be the same. When
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Speaker 2: we look back on this, we're going to see that
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Speaker 2: it creates jobs. And like you said, we are in
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Speaker 2: competition with China. China is a very you know you're
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Speaker 2: gonna laugh when I say this, but a very permissive society.
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Speaker 2: And when it comes to building things, because they don't
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Speaker 2: have laws, they don't have regulations, they don't have permitting.
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Speaker 2: If they want to build something, they build it. They
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Speaker 2: don't ask any questions, they just do it. And that's
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Speaker 2: why you know they're going to be ahead of us
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Speaker 2: if we don't do something.
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Speaker 1: Coming up, we've been talking about what a Day's favorite topics,
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Speaker 1: considering his father died of lung cancer as being a smoker.
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Speaker 1: FDA is trying to help us out, help us, help you,
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Speaker 1: just like they did during Prohibition when they banned alcohol
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Speaker 1: because it was sinful and did bad things to people.
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Speaker 1: That worked out great. Coming them up. Dave Williams Taxpayer
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Speaker 1: Taxpayer Protection Alliance discussion with our friend Dave Williams. The
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Speaker 1: detecting taxpayers dot org. Topic near and dear to your heart.
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Speaker 1: You know, Dave Williams, I was doing my prep for
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Speaker 1: Day yesterday for the show this morning, and I put
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Speaker 1: your name right at the top of this article that
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Speaker 1: I found and lo and behold this morning when I
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Speaker 1: woke up, you have a topic involving the FDA trying
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Speaker 1: to engage in some harm protection involving tobacco and vape products.
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Speaker 1: Don't import UK's tobacco prohibition experiment to America. America, writes
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Speaker 1: Christina Smith in this op ed piece, isn't an interesting.
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Speaker 1: Tightening restrictions on vapes and other nicotine products does not
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Speaker 1: reduce the demand. It just shifts people over to the
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Speaker 1: black market. It does not slower cigarette smoking rate at all.
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Speaker 1: In fact, you know, when you take away alternatives to
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Speaker 1: real tobacco, people go back to real tobacco. And of
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Speaker 1: course they've they've banned tobacco purchasing for anyone born on
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Speaker 1: or after January first, two thousand and nine, permanently never
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Speaker 1: allowed to buy tobacco products in the UK. But then
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Speaker 1: they're taking away the vape options as well. This sounds
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Speaker 1: like prohibition, David. That didn't work out too well, did it.
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Speaker 1: What's the FDA doing now?
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Speaker 2: Well, the FDA did something miraculous is that they approved
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Speaker 2: flavored vapes for at all.
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Speaker 1: Ah, the opposite direction.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and this was amazing. I think it was what
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Speaker 2: mango and blueberry vapes for and again for adults over
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Speaker 2: twenty one. You know, if you were under twenty one,
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Speaker 2: you were not allowed to buy these products, and you
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Speaker 2: should not be allowed to buy these products. And yeah,
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Speaker 2: you reference my father. He was sixty three when he passed.
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Speaker 2: I'm sixty. I turned sixty this year. It is frightening
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Speaker 2: to think that I am three years away from the
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Speaker 2: age where my father passed. Now, listen, I don't smoke,
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Speaker 2: I don't vape. I don't use pouches, but people that
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Speaker 2: do smoke, please find an alternative because cigarettes will kill
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Speaker 2: you and they will destroy your life. And you know,
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Speaker 2: whether it's pouches or again vaping or ease cigarettes, I
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Speaker 2: encourage people because each have been studied over and over again.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the UK, they're saying you can't smoke after
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Speaker 2: a certain age, Well in two thousand, if you're born
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Speaker 2: after two thousand and nine, that's not going to stop smoking.
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Speaker 2: What that's going to do is drive everything underground. We
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Speaker 2: have seen this time and time again. Brian. Is that
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Speaker 2: and you mentioned prohibition the same exact thing. There's going
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Speaker 2: to be cigarette speakeasy in the UK. Mexico, the country
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Speaker 2: of Mexico has banned vaping. The cartels are involved in vaping. Now,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're moving away from fentanyl, and they're involved
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Speaker 2: in vaping because that's where the money is. It's because
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Speaker 2: it's illegal and government officials are clueless. They think that
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Speaker 2: if you ban something, people stop doing it. No, they
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Speaker 2: find another way to do it. It's human nature.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, the odd thing about it is
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Speaker 1: people out there in the world that demand will never
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Speaker 1: go away. And then the epic stupidity that people this shows.
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Speaker 1: It reflects the crazyness of the demand. You mentioned cigarettes.
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Speaker 1: If they don't start, you never get I mean, you
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Speaker 1: won't get lung cancer from smoking, if you don't smoke,
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Speaker 1: no kidding, you won't drop dead by injecting fentanyl. And
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Speaker 1: yet people aware of the risk and knowing that it's
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Speaker 1: out there in the world, and watching their friends around
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Speaker 1: them drop dead for years and years and years, they
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Speaker 1: still do it. What I'm not advocating for the legalization
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Speaker 1: of fentanyl necessarily that that experiment hasn't worked out real
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Speaker 1: well in cities like Seattle. But you know, something be
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Speaker 1: said that with the stupidity of people's human nature generally.
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Speaker 2: And you know, at the heart of this is nicotine right,
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Speaker 2: is We've had nicotine replacement therapies for years, for decades.
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Speaker 2: Gum gum doesn't work for some people. But nicotine is
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Speaker 2: not the.
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Speaker 1: Problem, No, it isn't.
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Speaker 2: It's the stuff that is wrapped in that tobacco heap,
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Speaker 2: all the carcinogens that you're inhaling when you like that cigarette.
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Speaker 2: And what you have now are different nicotine delivery systems,
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Speaker 2: whether it's pouches, whether it's vapes. And Tina's like caffeine,
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Speaker 2: you know, does it affect you? Absolutely, Caffeine effects you.
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Speaker 2: I don't hear anyone trying to ban caffeine. And why
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Speaker 2: not flavors again, my dad, My dad had a sweet tooth.
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Speaker 2: I could totally see him with a vape with watermelon flavor,
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Speaker 2: you know, cotton candy. The guy had a sweet tooth, right,
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Speaker 2: And I wish these products were available in the nineteen
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Speaker 2: seventies instead of riding in a car with him to school,
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Speaker 2: windows up, air conditioning on uh. One cigarette after another.
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Speaker 1: It was brutal well, which negates the idea that you'd
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Speaker 1: never smoked there, Dave, but he basically did for all
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Speaker 1: the time he was around you. And you know, I
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Speaker 1: feel so terrible for you having to experience the loss
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Speaker 1: of your father. But it does serve as an excellent
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Speaker 1: point when you're trying to bring this reality, this regulatory
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Speaker 1: environment up. And you know the other component of this
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Speaker 1: approval process. In the United States, they're so slow to
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Speaker 1: approve any given product, like they have approved the sale
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Speaker 1: of and I think it's because they connected the well
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Speaker 1: in big money lobbying groups like the tobacco companies, which
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Speaker 1: have gotten deep involved in vaping. But you can only
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Speaker 1: buy certain products. Others you can get at these these
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Speaker 1: you know, vape shops from all over the world, but
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Speaker 1: they're not licensed they I guess under federal law. They
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Speaker 1: aren't approved by the FDA.
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Speaker 2: They're not approved by the FDA, so that means the
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Speaker 2: FDA shuts them down. And I guarantee you there are
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Speaker 2: people listening right now that are vapors that use these
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Speaker 2: products and swear by them and swear by them in
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Speaker 2: a good way. You know how they've changed their lives
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Speaker 2: going from smoking to really becoming you know, a less
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Speaker 2: harm these less harmful alternatives. And you know a lot
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Speaker 2: of these places that are mom and pop shops that
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Speaker 2: are putting these vape liquids together and it's really a
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Speaker 2: fascinating community once you get involved in and I've spoken
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Speaker 2: to many of these people and they're not big tobacco,
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Speaker 2: they're small town vape shops. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, you make excellent points, Dave. I cannot argue with them,
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Speaker 1: and I just you know, I don't like Nanny Steve
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Speaker 1: the shocking statement from my listening audience, but it's anyway,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see though. The bright news and all
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Speaker 1: this is that they are moving toward expanding the opportunities
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Speaker 1: for people to choose from various products. And again, I
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Speaker 1: think in the name of improving health. It seems to
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Speaker 1: be sort of contra counterintuitive to one having vapes out
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Speaker 1: there and more quantity, But the flip side is more
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Speaker 1: people will smoke or you create a black market. And
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Speaker 1: again a lesson learned from prohibition and what they're learning
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Speaker 1: in the UK real time right now black market is
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Speaker 1: growing by leaps and bounds seven twenty.
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Speaker 2: Six right and it's going to be a case study
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Speaker 2: of the black market in the UK.
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Speaker 1: Just watch, oh yeah, learn from others' mistakes. Dave Williams
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Speaker 1: Ross Marshall and Marshan writing about rejecting RFK Junior's Food
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Speaker 1: Safety Plan Healthier America legislative proposals on their regulation and
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Speaker 1: oversight of food. That was a hearing they had the
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Speaker 1: other day. What's this one all about, Dave Williams, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know this.
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Speaker 2: Is the Mahad movement make America healthy again, and you
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Speaker 2: know very much support people being healthy, but you have
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Speaker 2: you have RFK Junior, who is you know, putting mandates
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Speaker 2: on food and really not making America healthy again. That's
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Speaker 2: the problem. And you know the FDA. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if if people realize just how much influence the FDA
17:43
Speaker 2: has in everyone's life on a daily basis, and really
17:47
Speaker 2: the foods we eat, the prescriptions that we were allowed
17:50
Speaker 2: to take that are approved, and you know, we just
17:53
Speaker 2: don't see a lot of leadership coming from RFK JR.
17:55
Speaker 1: Well, what of this generally recognize safe grass thing that
18:01
Speaker 1: they're apparently going to require food manufacturers to go through
18:04
Speaker 1: and provide notifications for. Is this going to raise the
18:07
Speaker 1: price of our food or how will this allegedly bring
18:10
Speaker 1: about some better healthier American diet.
18:13
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's going to bring about a healthier diet,
18:15
Speaker 2: but it will raise the price of food. Whenever you
18:18
Speaker 2: have any sort of regulation, that always raises the price
18:21
Speaker 2: of food. And that's what we're concerned about, is that
18:23
Speaker 2: there's too much manipulation a regulation and of food. And
18:28
Speaker 2: these are regulations that don't go through Congress, And really
18:31
Speaker 2: Congress has abdicated a lot of their responsibility here. They
18:35
Speaker 2: might have a hearing or two, but after that, there's
18:38
Speaker 2: really nothing that they do to manage the Food and
18:42
Speaker 2: Drug Administration or the Health and Human Services Department of
18:45
Speaker 2: Health and Human Services.
18:46
Speaker 1: Well, do the food manufacturers have maybe a major questions
18:50
Speaker 1: document or major questions argument they could bring to court,
18:52
Speaker 1: Like wait a second, they did not delegate this degree
18:56
Speaker 1: of authority to regulate how we manufacture food. It's outside
18:59
Speaker 1: of the scope of whatever regulation they're springing from.
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Speaker 2: We're starting to see that. And Ross marsh until you
19:06
Speaker 2: mentioned he's our executive director, has a law degree, and
19:09
Speaker 2: we've been filing AMEKAS briefs at the state and federal
19:12
Speaker 2: level when it comes to these regulations, because we feel
19:15
Speaker 2: that there's a lot going on here. There's freedom of
19:18
Speaker 2: speech issues, there's overregulation, and so it's something we're getting
19:22
Speaker 2: more involved. And I remember, you know, back in April,
19:25
Speaker 2: I think Joe was telling me April first was the
19:27
Speaker 2: last time we spoke, April Fool's Day, and you mentioned,
19:30
Speaker 2: you know, what is the Taxpayer's Protection Alliance? You know,
19:32
Speaker 2: what do we do to affect change one of it?
19:35
Speaker 2: You know, are AMEKAS briefs and trying to you know,
19:38
Speaker 2: get the court's attention and to change what the federal
19:41
Speaker 2: government is doing and what these agencies are doing. And
19:44
Speaker 2: a lot of agencies, you know, this is authority that
19:47
Speaker 2: they previously didn't have and they're taking for themselves.
19:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know this, I suppose arguably a more
19:53
Speaker 1: altruistic road that RFK Junior is going down. And I
19:57
Speaker 1: like some of the things he's done, you know a
19:59
Speaker 1: lot of things kind and I kind of take a
20:01
Speaker 1: sit on the fence approach to it, But overall, I
20:03
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing that he's bringing awareness about
20:06
Speaker 1: our diets to our attention. That the idea of going
20:08
Speaker 1: against processed food just choose not to eat them, as
20:11
Speaker 1: opposed to Dave telling them how to make them. An
20:14
Speaker 1: educated population, that's where the food additives and problems with
20:18
Speaker 1: processed food will reject those over time, I would hope
20:21
Speaker 1: much in the same way awareness about cigarettes causing cancer
20:24
Speaker 1: will pushed a whole lot of people to just quit
20:26
Speaker 1: smoking just because they got the information.
20:30
Speaker 2: Well, and look at GMOs, genetically modified organisms. That sounds
20:34
Speaker 2: really scary, doesn't it, And some people are really afraid
20:37
Speaker 2: of GMOs. Well, they're saving lives in countries that need
20:42
Speaker 2: food because they're able to produce food at an incredible level.
20:47
Speaker 2: So science is working on our behalf. And a food
20:51
Speaker 2: company's goal is not to kill you, it's to sell product.
20:55
Speaker 2: And this reminds me of the fugitive is when a
20:58
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical company, why would they create to pill that kills you.
21:01
Speaker 2: It's not what they're in business for. So food companies,
21:05
Speaker 2: you know, do they need to be policed and then monitored.
21:08
Speaker 2: We're already doing that, so I think it's just really
21:11
Speaker 2: micromanaging what they can put in the ingredients.
21:15
Speaker 1: I just thought of a conspiracy theory, Dave, where we
21:17
Speaker 1: take a break and come back to my conspiracy theories,
21:20
Speaker 1: or as they like to be referred to, pattern observer friends.
21:22
Speaker 1: Maybe the idea of getting rid of GMOs to reduce
21:25
Speaker 1: the quantity of food that is produced is a direct
21:27
Speaker 1: relationship to controlling the population, Dave. I just put that
21:34
Speaker 1: in people's minds. See, I can come up with them too,
21:36
Speaker 1: although ill gott to get chimed in right now. No, No,
21:38
Speaker 1: that's actually going on. Here's a link to an article
21:41
Speaker 1: I found out on the internet. Because anything you read
21:43
Speaker 1: on the internet, of course is true. That's what Abraham
21:46
Speaker 1: Lincoln said. Don't go away more with Dave Williams. Taxpayer
21:48
Speaker 1: Protection Alliance Death by a thousand quotas a crackdown on
21:52
Speaker 1: us stream. Tom's talking well overreach of government, taxpayer protection lions.
21:58
Speaker 1: Dave Williams again protecting tax or. Dave got a chuckle
22:01
Speaker 1: as I mentioned my conspiracy theory, and I was taking
22:04
Speaker 1: credit for coming up with it. No, lo and behold
22:06
Speaker 1: my friend Maureen. Good morning, Maureene. That's what I was
22:08
Speaker 1: thinking of. Had already sent me an instant message about
22:12
Speaker 1: the GMO products unless you have a population agenda. I
22:15
Speaker 1: didn't see that before I made my comment. She said,
22:21
Speaker 1: great minds. Of course, great minds, think life, see Dave,
22:25
Speaker 1: and there you go, GMO, GMO, getting rid of them
22:30
Speaker 1: is for the purpose of population control. Okay, you can
22:32
Speaker 1: agree or believe whatever you want. Pivoting over a consumer
22:35
Speaker 1: watchdog exposing the global crackdown on US streaming services. Why
22:39
Speaker 1: are they cracking down on our streaming services? I think
22:43
Speaker 1: maybe has something to do with the idea that we
22:44
Speaker 1: have free speech and the free exchange of ideas in
22:47
Speaker 1: large part on our social media and places like oh,
22:50
Speaker 1: I don't know, Iran, don't.
22:55
Speaker 2: Well. Listen. The European Union, Canada, Australia, they want money
23:01
Speaker 2: and they found another way to take it from US businesses.
23:05
Speaker 2: And this is with streaming quotas, streaming taxes, and this
23:09
Speaker 2: is billions of dollars a year. And these quotas are
23:11
Speaker 2: really weird. Is that the European Union is saying that,
23:15
Speaker 2: you know, if your Netflix or any other streaming service
23:17
Speaker 2: that you're gonna have thirty percent of the catalog that
23:20
Speaker 2: you have has to be European produced award I mean.
23:26
Speaker 2: And then of course they imput taxes on these streaming services.
23:29
Speaker 2: And again we've seen this from the European Union in
23:32
Speaker 2: so many way, the Digital service tax. This is a entity,
23:37
Speaker 2: the European Union that just overregulates and over taxes and
23:40
Speaker 2: they see. What they do is they see the rich
23:42
Speaker 2: neighbor and they go, I want some of their money, yep,
23:44
Speaker 2: And so they pass these rules of regulations and these
23:47
Speaker 2: taxes trying to fleece our businesses.
23:50
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the larger question remains is can these
23:53
Speaker 1: large corporations still make money? Can they still be profitable?
23:56
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the profits will be less having to
23:58
Speaker 1: comply with all this and all of the bloody work
24:00
Speaker 1: that would have to be done to comply with something
24:02
Speaker 1: like three percent of the content needs to be EU created.
24:05
Speaker 1: I suppose AI in and of itself can call up
24:07
Speaker 1: with the content list. But still obviously this comes at
24:10
Speaker 1: a great expense of the large companies. But will they
24:13
Speaker 1: remain there in spite of this cash grab that they're
24:16
Speaker 1: engaging in?
24:17
Speaker 2: And Darren lies there rub is that they will pull
24:20
Speaker 2: out of these markets and that's not good for people
24:24
Speaker 2: in the European Union. Australia, boy, Australia, time and time
24:28
Speaker 2: again are passing these bizarre regulations. You know, Australia used
24:33
Speaker 2: to be a place of like freedom, No more. I mean,
24:36
Speaker 2: so many different regulations on social media. Who can access
24:41
Speaker 2: social media? Yeah they have. They have a rule that
24:44
Speaker 2: you know, if you're sixteen or under, you only have
24:46
Speaker 2: free speech after sixteen years old, which I think is
24:49
Speaker 2: a weird concept about accessing social media. And we've seen
24:52
Speaker 2: this of course in this country, state by state. Yeah.
24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read an arc like again another one I
24:57
Speaker 1: thought about you, Dave Over. In the UK, there was
24:59
Speaker 1: an ur about kids getting around the social media age
25:02
Speaker 1: verification by simply using a mask, garapen and drawing fake
25:06
Speaker 1: mustaches and beards on themselves. I mean, duh. But see
25:11
Speaker 1: the nefarious part about this, Maureen, good morning, is that
25:14
Speaker 1: because of that, they're going to use the workarounds in
25:17
Speaker 1: order to bring about the dawn of the everyone must
25:20
Speaker 1: have an online digital ID, the numbering of the people
25:23
Speaker 1: kind of thing that my friends out there in the
25:25
Speaker 1: religious community kind of argue about all the time, and.
25:28
Speaker 2: Now Michigan wants to ban VPNs. Obviously a VPN is
25:32
Speaker 2: a way or around they do age restrictions. Yeah, so
25:36
Speaker 2: this is the next step. This is the absolute next step,
25:39
Speaker 2: is banning VPNs that you can't use a VPN to
25:42
Speaker 2: access the Internet. And you know, age verification is something
25:46
Speaker 2: that we actually are work a lot on because a
25:49
Speaker 2: lot of First Amendment issues. Florida tried to ban kids
25:52
Speaker 2: sixteen and under. Now, if you're let's say you live
25:54
Speaker 2: in Georgia and you're sixteen, you have a social media account,
25:58
Speaker 2: you drive into Florida, how does at work? Like? I mean,
26:01
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense, Brian, And it doesn't. And
26:04
Speaker 2: people are saying, well, we have to control big tech.
26:07
Speaker 2: Big tech is bad. Listen, think what you want to
26:09
Speaker 2: think about big tech. I don't care. So what you
26:12
Speaker 2: want to do is create a government regime to collect
26:15
Speaker 2: your ID biometric information to ensure that you're old enough
26:20
Speaker 2: to get onto the internet. And it's not just for
26:22
Speaker 2: sixteen year olds. As a almost sixty year old, I
26:26
Speaker 2: have to go through the same thing. Yeah, I have
26:28
Speaker 2: to prove that I am sixty, which I really don't
26:31
Speaker 2: want to do. I have to prove that to get
26:33
Speaker 2: onto the internet. So it's not just the kids. Everyone
26:36
Speaker 2: has to submit this data. And we have seen one
26:39
Speaker 2: breach after another in the UK, in the US, everywhere.
26:43
Speaker 2: These things are breached all the time. Huge security risk.
26:48
Speaker 2: And for some reason people are trusting big government to
26:51
Speaker 2: do this and to be able to handle this. I
26:53
Speaker 2: don't get it.
26:54
Speaker 1: People are trusting big government for anything. I don't get it. Yeah,
26:58
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the topic happens to be. I
26:59
Speaker 1: was thinking about that when you mentioned about the regulatory
27:01
Speaker 1: screen stream for a regulatory process and streamlining it and
27:05
Speaker 1: making an uniform for all the United States based upon
27:07
Speaker 1: federal legislation. You know, I was thinking about it. I
27:09
Speaker 1: wrote down, our idiots in Congress don't know anything about AI.
27:13
Speaker 1: How is it that they can legislate curbs and controls
27:16
Speaker 1: on it? Who do they rely on? They rely on
27:19
Speaker 1: the people who build the AI platforms. I guess lobbyists. Right.
27:23
Speaker 2: You have Senator Chuck Rassley, who's in his nineties. Is
27:27
Speaker 2: this the person that we want to be debating AI
27:30
Speaker 2: in the future of AI in this country? I'm sorry,
27:33
Speaker 2: but no, these are not the people that we want
27:36
Speaker 2: deciding these issues.
27:38
Speaker 1: Let's pause bring day back for one more. I appreciate
27:40
Speaker 1: the extra time you have. This has been a fascinating conversation.
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Speaker 1: of their news the meantime. One more comments or more
28:02
Speaker 1: comments from Dave Volliams from the Taxpayer Protection Lines. Dave,
28:05
Speaker 1: you know I asked you specifically about the artificial intelligence
28:08
Speaker 1: companies pulling out of those you know, unbelievably over regulatory
28:12
Speaker 1: and high taxation countries. You suggested, Yeah, they may very
28:15
Speaker 1: well do that. Obviously downside risk with that. And I
28:18
Speaker 1: was looking at this wonderful one to two punch this morning,
28:21
Speaker 1: and I talked about it in the US at the
28:22
Speaker 1: beginning of the six o'clock hour report released by the
28:25
Speaker 1: Committee to Unleashed Prosperity, and they rely on IRS numbers
28:29
Speaker 1: showing that the states that voted for Trump, the Red States,
28:31
Speaker 1: gained about two trillion dollars from those who fled the
28:36
Speaker 1: blue states that lost a collective equal amount roughly two
28:41
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. They did a breakdown in all the states
28:43
Speaker 1: that benefited and gained from it. With a corollary article
28:46
Speaker 1: op ed piece from Kimberly Strassel, the Red Blue economic divide.
28:51
Speaker 1: We have the freedom of travel in this country, day Voliams.
28:53
Speaker 1: And when you get hit over the head by oppressive
28:56
Speaker 1: regulation and outrageous cost of living, a government that doesn't
28:59
Speaker 1: do anything about feces in the streets and roads and infrastructure,
29:03
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole litany of problems in cities
29:06
Speaker 1: like Seattle, states like California, Illinois, they're underwater financially. Look
29:11
Speaker 1: at what's happening in New York with everyone who can
29:13
Speaker 1: get out of the dodge leaving. As backed up by
29:16
Speaker 1: this economic report, that's what people do. Do you have
29:19
Speaker 1: a reaction to that? And I don't know if you
29:20
Speaker 1: saw the data on that one, Dave, Yeah, absolutely.
29:23
Speaker 2: This is about competition, tax competition, and people vote with
29:28
Speaker 2: their feet. People are leaving California. Listen, We've heard this before,
29:33
Speaker 2: people leaving California, going to Texas, going to Florida. It's
29:36
Speaker 2: not for the weather, it's for the tax climate. It's
29:39
Speaker 2: because and you have businesses that have relocated to lower
29:43
Speaker 2: tax states. And that's what I love about this country
29:46
Speaker 2: is you have that tax competition, you have that competition,
29:49
Speaker 2: and people are smart. I mean, that's the thing is.
29:52
Speaker 2: You know, we can talk all this theoremy when you
29:54
Speaker 2: see it actually happen, you know that people look look
29:59
Speaker 2: at the bottom line, and this has been happening for years.
30:02
Speaker 2: And California, Maryland, these deep blue states, they just don't
30:06
Speaker 2: get it, they don't understand. They keep on raising taxes,
30:10
Speaker 2: people keep on leaving, and it's really a vicious cycle.
30:13
Speaker 2: But you know, the red states are winning. They're winning
30:17
Speaker 2: and winning economically. And the next battle that I think
30:21
Speaker 2: is going to be property taxes. We're going to see
30:23
Speaker 2: a lot of states dropping property taxes, lowering them, or
30:26
Speaker 2: completely getting rid of property taxes again to get people
30:30
Speaker 2: to come into their state. And I love that. I
30:33
Speaker 2: love competition because at the end of the day, consumers win,
30:37
Speaker 2: property owners win when there's more competition.
30:40
Speaker 1: More competition. And you know, we've got that property tax
30:43
Speaker 1: issue raging here in the state of Ohio. I don't
30:45
Speaker 1: know if you're aware of, but there's a battot petition
30:47
Speaker 1: circulating around to get the eradication of property taxes into
30:51
Speaker 1: the Ohio Constitution, and it's freaking out a lot of municipality,
30:56
Speaker 1: municipalities and of course the school districts wondering what they
30:59
Speaker 1: would do in order to get funding for you know,
31:01
Speaker 1: fire departments, police departments, and of course school districts. If
31:04
Speaker 1: the property tax disappears. But other states can do it,
31:06
Speaker 1: why can't we?
31:09
Speaker 2: Deep Blue Baltimore City is considering cutting their property tax rate.
31:13
Speaker 2: If that doesn't tell you everything about property taxes, I
31:17
Speaker 2: don't know what does. Because this is something that I
31:19
Speaker 2: think is going to be sweeping the country. Florida is
31:22
Speaker 2: now discussing whether to get rid of their property taxes.
31:25
Speaker 2: So I love it. I love the fact that we're
31:27
Speaker 2: talking about this, and because it puts more money back
31:30
Speaker 2: into people's pockets. I mean, the bottom line is people
31:33
Speaker 2: will have more money at their disposal, and guess what
31:36
Speaker 2: they're going to spend that money. They're going to go
31:38
Speaker 2: to the store. They're going to buy things. This is
31:40
Speaker 2: what people do when they have more money, They buy
31:42
Speaker 2: more stuff.
31:43
Speaker 1: And going back to the figure from the Committee to
31:45
Speaker 1: Unleashed Prosperity, Florida the largest gain of all the states
31:50
Speaker 1: receiving the benefits of new people moving into the tune
31:53
Speaker 1: of ready day one point two nine to three trillion
31:57
Speaker 1: dollars in adjusted gross income tied to migration during the
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Speaker 1: ten year period study between twenty twelve and twenty twenty three.
32:03
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it got a lot bigger twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four and twenty five are added.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And you know, God blessed Florida and other states.
32:12
Speaker 2: You know, if they're smart, they're looking at what Florida
32:15
Speaker 2: did and going hm hmm, yeah, we should do the
32:17
Speaker 2: same thing.
32:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio lost one hundred and six billion in spite
32:20
Speaker 1: of the fact that it's one of the several Trump
32:22
Speaker 1: states or several states that voted for Trump. M maybe
32:25
Speaker 1: we need to follow a different course. Dave Williams, thanks
32:28
Speaker 1: for what you do. I appreciate your willingness to spend
32:30
Speaker 1: time with my listeners and me on the morning show.
32:32
Speaker 1: Here we'll recommend again protecting taxpayers dot org. I look
32:36
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