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Love After Paradise with Alli Jo Hinkes · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the almost same this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It is Ashley holding it down today because Ben is
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  Speaker 2: on vacation in Italy. And I'm excited because today my
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  Speaker 2: guests came in. She came in fast and furious into paradise,
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  Speaker 2: and she didn't stick around long enough. But what happened
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  Speaker 2: since she's left has probably been more exciting than anything.
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  Speaker 2: Please welcome Ali Joe Hanks to the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for being here. So basically, Paradise just
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  Speaker 2: didn't really it didn't pan out for you. How many
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  Speaker 2: days were you actually there? Like two? Did you fielm
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  Speaker 2: for two days?
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  Speaker 3: Literally?
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  Speaker 4: Not even two full days? Actually it was like thirty
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  Speaker 4: six hours.
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  Speaker 2: I think that sucks. Was there anything with your relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Dale that didn't make air that you wish did?
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  Speaker 4: I think just like our conversations of things that we
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  Speaker 4: had in common, and just like where we wanted to
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  Speaker 4: see our futures. And I think they were a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more like intimate conversations off the jump, which I
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  Speaker 4: think is totally fine, especially for this scenario. But I
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  Speaker 4: did you know, ask him about his relationship with Kat,
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  Speaker 4: where his.
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  Speaker 3: Head was at.
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  Speaker 4: We were there only for a couple of days, right,
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  Speaker 4: because I came in on like a Tuesday, and they
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  Speaker 4: all started filming Saturday, So he was only there two
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  Speaker 4: days before me. Because I think he had keeped me.
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  Speaker 4: I was just very curious to how they got to
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  Speaker 4: where they were so so quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did what did he say? How did they
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  Speaker 2: get there?
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  Speaker 4: He took her on the date with the boat and
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  Speaker 4: or the catamaran, and I guess they had a lot
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  Speaker 4: in common and they wanted similar.
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  Speaker 3: Things in their futures.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was like, I feel like everyone still
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  Speaker 4: wanted those things in their futures too, So I guess
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  Speaker 4: it just happened pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Right when you were in that row ceremony, did you
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  Speaker 2: think that there was hope for you getting a rose
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  Speaker 2: or was it You're pretty certain that it was gonna
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  Speaker 2: go to Cat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like I said, I laid all my
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  Speaker 3: cards out there.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was interested me based on the conversations
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  Speaker 4: we have. It was never like I'm only picking Cat.
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  Speaker 4: He even said like, my head is somewhere, my heart
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  Speaker 4: is somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: I'm confused and this was before the road ceremony, so
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  Speaker 3: there wasn't like enough clarity for me.
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  Speaker 4: But like, deep down, I was like, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I am going home, but there could be a potential,
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  Speaker 4: there could.
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  Speaker 3: Be a light that I'm staying. But unfortunately I obviously
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  Speaker 3: got sent home.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. But then you go home and
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  Speaker 2: you what happens. What happens? So you and Sam are together.
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  Speaker 2: This is Sam McKinny from Gen season. He was also
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  Speaker 2: on Paradise for a short stint. You guys, you said
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  Speaker 2: recently that you didn't want to really get into it
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  Speaker 2: via DM with him because you wanted it to be
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  Speaker 2: an authentic connection if you were to meet in Paradise,
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  Speaker 2: but then it just you didn't cross paths there. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So you came home and what happens?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I came home, I got my phone back.
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  Speaker 4: It was before like I was getting on the flay
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  Speaker 4: and I had reached out to him VIADM and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I heard you were here just a couple
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  Speaker 4: of hours ago, because he is by the time you
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  Speaker 4: like wrap up filming and get back, like we had
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  Speaker 4: just missed each other a couple of hours. So I
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  Speaker 4: reached out to him because I wanted him to know
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  Speaker 4: that I was there. He wouldn't have known if I
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  Speaker 4: was or not, so I wanted it to be known
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  Speaker 4: that I was there. I wanted him to know I
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  Speaker 4: was disappointed. So I'd reached out to him and he
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  Speaker 4: gave me his phone number. And it's so funny because
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  Speaker 4: I'm not the type of girl that likes to reach
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  Speaker 4: out to guys first. I don't think there's a problem
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  Speaker 4: with that after a while, but like, definitely not initially.
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  Speaker 4: Basically a different like setup, This is a different circumstance.
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  Speaker 4: So I texted him and I was like, Hey, it's
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  Speaker 4: Ali Joe, and he hopped on the phone with me.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, we definitely have to plan something like let's
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  Speaker 4: get together soon. And then I was going to Jersey
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  Speaker 4: and time had passed, but we still stayed and touched
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  Speaker 4: and we talked like every day, whether it was a
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  Speaker 4: quick text, a quick FaceTime. He met my mom on FaceTime,
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  Speaker 4: like the day before Mother's Day, so we stayed in contact,
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  Speaker 4: and then he finally was like, I'm coming to Florida.
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  Speaker 3: I'm booking a flight, and the rest was history.
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  Speaker 2: I'm booking a flight to intentionally see you. Yes, very
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  Speaker 2: nice So what's the status now? Are we official?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we are official. We've been dating officially, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of months, and he's come to Florida
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  Speaker 4: a couple of times. I've been to South Carolina a
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  Speaker 4: few times. We just booked a trip to Nashville in
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  Speaker 4: October with my friends who are engaged, who he's met.
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  Speaker 4: So he's gone along with like all my friends, which
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  Speaker 4: is amazing, my family especially, that's like a huge thing.
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  Speaker 3: Of importance for me.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, we are official, and we're making plans or
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  Speaker 4: making trips and yeah, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. This is kind of making me. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of reminiscent of Brandon and Christina. Yeah, you guys,
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  Speaker 2: because Christina wasn't in Paradise, but Brandon was. And if
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  Speaker 2: they had cast Christina of Paradise, then they would have
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  Speaker 2: had another bachelor. They would have had another bachelor couple.
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  Speaker 2: And now with you guys, I'm like, wow, another missed
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  Speaker 2: couple that could have been on air. That's unfortunate for them.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that perhaps they should mix up the
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  Speaker 2: situation where there's less people missing each other where, Like
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  Speaker 2: maybe there's a time where everybody's there together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Sam and I talk about that often because
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  Speaker 4: and I keep saying it, we're so happy we're together.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really happy that I had the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 4: on Paradise. But and I've said this multiple times, like
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  Speaker 4: you put so much on hold to do this thinking
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna be there, and like him and I are
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  Speaker 4: a couple, So I really truly think that's a really
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  Speaker 4: just like it's unfortunate that people weren't able to see
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  Speaker 4: it and that we weren't able to experience that in
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  Speaker 4: this setting.
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  Speaker 3: So I definitely think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Something that America and like producers really missed the ball on,
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  Speaker 4: especially because he was the only name that I really dropped,
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  Speaker 4: and I know he I was the only name he dropped,
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  Speaker 4: so real to bring us in like that, so back
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  Speaker 4: to back, I really feel I was really hurt, especially
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  Speaker 4: because now that we are dating and now there's like
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  Speaker 4: this cash price too, and like we genuinely like like
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  Speaker 4: each other. We are together. This isn't for show, this
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  Speaker 4: isn't for whatever. So I definitely think we are a
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  Speaker 4: little like I feel slighted, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: it is what it is, like we're so so happy,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, but it's definitely we're definitely a little disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 4: It's sunny commenting our stuff too, Like we would have
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  Speaker 4: left to have seen this, and you know, he had
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  Speaker 4: like his edit on the show.
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  Speaker 3: He was there for a while, was a big name.
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  Speaker 4: I was only on a couple of episodes, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: I still was on it, and I just feel like
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  Speaker 4: it would it would have been really fun to see.
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  Speaker 3: I think we would have really shook things up.
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  Speaker 4: We're both like similar in certain aspects and I just think.
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  Speaker 3: It would have been funny and it would have been
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  Speaker 3: cool to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, how would you guys have fared if you were
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  Speaker 2: to get to the competition part of the show.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're both competitive.
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  Speaker 4: It's so funny because I was like watching that episode
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  Speaker 4: where they had to dress up in birds, and I
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  Speaker 4: like texted him and I was like, if you dressed.
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  Speaker 3: Up like this, I don't know if I could look at.
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  Speaker 2: You afterward, right?
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  Speaker 3: What if you do was for money? And I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's true.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think when you saw like this bomb
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  Speaker 2: drop that there was going to be money involved and
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be gameplay? Did you have any inkling that
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  Speaker 2: that was where it was headed.
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  Speaker 4: I had no clueher was heading because I knew the
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  Speaker 4: Goldens were coming in. And it was basically like because
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  Speaker 4: there was some chatter about couples not being there for
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  Speaker 4: the right reasons or that other people had relationships back
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  Speaker 4: at home, and a couple of people were like, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to come to light eventually if this becomes
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  Speaker 4: a thing, because it's all going to come down to
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  Speaker 4: like who you trust or who you think is a
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  Speaker 4: good couple. So there was like whisperings of things, but
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea what like the actual thing was
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  Speaker 4: until I got home and spoke to a couple of
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  Speaker 4: other people who were on the show and found out
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  Speaker 4: what it was all about.
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  Speaker 2: Who was the person that you were closest to on
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  Speaker 2: the show from your season from my season?
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  Speaker 4: Well, like naturally, Press and I were good friends before
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  Speaker 4: going on the show, but I really did talk to everyone,
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  Speaker 4: Like I really did speak to Zoe often.
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  Speaker 3: I spoke to Alicia often.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously her and I missed each other, but definitely, like
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  Speaker 4: I spoke to Pries', Zoe and Alicia a lot before
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  Speaker 4: going on, and Bailey and Alex as well.
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  Speaker 2: Alicia said she dropped some bombs on Nick Vile's podcast
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  Speaker 2: this week. I just said that Kat's not an honest person,
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  Speaker 2: that she went into the hotel with an iPad to
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  Speaker 2: talk to her boyfriend, former boyfriend, whatever the heck it was.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about this?
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  Speaker 4: I heard the same exact things, and I know people
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  Speaker 4: like online because I actually still haven't watched this last episode.
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  Speaker 4: I was traveling home from Jersey on Monday, and then
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  Speaker 4: I've just been so busy getting caught back up into
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  Speaker 4: like the swing of things, so I wanted to watch
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  Speaker 4: it tonight. But anyways, Yeah, So it's funny because this
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  Speaker 4: was all talked about like when filming first started, like what,
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  Speaker 4: I got there on a Tuesday, So we all talked
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  Speaker 4: about this on a Wednesday, and some.
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  Speaker 3: Of the casts knew.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think it was like a thing to
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  Speaker 4: bring it up just yet because we were all knew,
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  Speaker 4: we were all forming connections. But I definitely, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people knew about it for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I left.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like if I was to stay, I would
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  Speaker 4: have brought it up if it became an opportunity to,
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  Speaker 4: or if I feel like I had to.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, Zoe like knew things. She spoke she brought
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 4: Kat said things to her, so I heard thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Alicia is not making it up, but I know people
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  Speaker 4: are like, Oh, Zoe and Alicia are just saying it
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  Speaker 4: because they wanted to be with Dale and now they're
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  Speaker 4: play State because of me.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not true.
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  Speaker 4: We did hear things.
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  Speaker 2: Did anybody see her with the iPad? Because you guys
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  Speaker 2: are sharing rooms.
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  Speaker 4: I did not see her with the iPad, so I
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  Speaker 4: can't speak for that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're not super close to her. You don't
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  Speaker 2: follow her on Instagram?
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't really know her, so going to Paradise,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know who she was.
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  Speaker 3: I found out after. But yeah, we didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we talked here and there, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: anything like you know, like it was surface level.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So would you say that? Well, I can't guess.
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  Speaker 2: No spoilers, but I'm so tempted to be like, does
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  Speaker 2: did Dale ever get wind of this iPad situation?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know?
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  Speaker 4: And that's like what I think is crazy because I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if they're still dating.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. Again, I didn't watch.
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  Speaker 4: The episode the other day. I don't know if maybe
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  Speaker 4: somebody told him. I know, like maybe Sean had some something,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know for sure, because I have to
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  Speaker 4: watch the episode.
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  Speaker 3: But I think he might have known things, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure. Maybe he didn't care enough.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe she was just saying that she was like reading
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  Speaker 2: a book on there and that she wasn't texting an
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  Speaker 2: X or for a current flame or whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: No, you know, what do you know is for the
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  Speaker 3: sure for that?
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  Speaker 2: You are also friends with Juliana and she just had
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  Speaker 2: her first interview post split from Grant. Do you stay
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  Speaker 2: in touch?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I mean Juliana's talk every day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, Okay, so you're that close yes? So then
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  Speaker 2: why did they break up?
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  Speaker 4: I just think, you know, two different like wants in
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  Speaker 4: life and different personalities sometimes don't mesh the best together.
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  Speaker 4: I think they just wanted, like maybe different things, and
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  Speaker 4: there are different people at the end of the day. Right,
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  Speaker 4: like you've been on the show, you know, like you're
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  Speaker 4: in this moment, You're in this like amazing thing, and
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  Speaker 4: all you see is love and all you see is
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  Speaker 4: that person. But then when you get into reality things
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  Speaker 4: things do change. It's like, can I see myself living
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  Speaker 4: with this person? Do I want to live where they live?
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  Speaker 4: And how can they fit into my life and my
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  Speaker 4: friends and my family? That's why, like, I am so blessed,
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  Speaker 4: I am so happy with Sam because we talk about
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  Speaker 4: it too, like, yeah, it's all great if we were
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  Speaker 4: to get along on the show, which I know we
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  Speaker 4: would have, but it's like, how what do I see
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  Speaker 4: with my family? How do I see you with my friends?
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  Speaker 4: So I think that plays like an important role. And
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  Speaker 4: she's like me, she's so close with her family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not to be invasive, but like, are we at
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  Speaker 2: the love stage with Sam?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're figuring things out, Okay. Juliana was saying
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  Speaker 2: that she's back on Riyah, she wants to start dating.
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  Speaker 2: Is there somebody that you and Sam could picture her
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  Speaker 2: with from Bachelor Nation?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't talked about it. They've faced like when Julianna
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  Speaker 4: facetimes me and I'm with Sam, like, oh god to Sam,
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  Speaker 4: and we talked, but no, not really.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I have to like meet some of these people in person,
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  Speaker 4: Like yeah, I see them on social media, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: what the what's their vibes in real life?
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  Speaker 2: So all right, I get that Grant handled the break
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  Speaker 2: up in a weird way, right, He was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not heartbroken, and then he deleted all the pictures from
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  Speaker 2: social media. I was like, wait a second, this just
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  Speaker 2: feels like a little harsh. Yeah, for something that was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like mutual. How did you think that he
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  Speaker 2: handled it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that he could have handled it differently.
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  Speaker 3: I think he needs help in his social media aspects.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to start a little bit of a social
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  Speaker 2: media war.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, you could have
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  Speaker 4: just like left the pictures up.
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  Speaker 3: You could have left those pictures up too.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's like going back to like in
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  Speaker 4: my space, like, oh you did me dirty, I'm taking
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  Speaker 4: you off my topic, like I'm taking you off my
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  Speaker 4: pins profile, I'm taking you off all of this. So
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  Speaker 4: I think could have handled it differently. But if he
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  Speaker 4: was hurt, that's okay. But I feel like he could
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  Speaker 4: have expressed that more, like if it wasn't mutual, then
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  Speaker 4: then then say that, like you know, so I.
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  Speaker 3: Thought it was a little bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, it was a little it
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  Speaker 2: was a little harsh. Jared and I were just talking
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  Speaker 2: about the next Bachelor and how we don't think that
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna pluck somebody from Bachelor's past we were like,
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  Speaker 2: who is a b C list celebrity that they could
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  Speaker 2: stunt cast?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any ideas b C celebrity? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Can they borrow somebody from like another reality show?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. What about the guy Kendall from Love Island?
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: I wonder if he would do it.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know any Love Island, but
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I think I know that name, so he must be
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: kind of a big.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Deal on the last season. I don't know.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Hmmm, what about one of the people from the Montana Boys.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like those guys wouldn't even do anything like
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: the Bachelor.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Really Montana Boys, am I like such a mom and.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: So I don't know the guy would Christy Cavalieri. But
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: he has a girlfriend.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that guy?
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Not him? But like he's the crew of guys.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like he's like the main event of that crew.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: But what do I do?
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Okay okay, I didn't know that they were like a thing.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: They have a great Montana Boys, and.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: When I say they do tiktoks, they just like help
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: words from other songs in they're.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But do we want like a social media star
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: that's obviously. Yeah, I know, I want like an athlete
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: who's just retired or an actor who like used to
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: be big, but like maybe isn't like huge. Now is
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: there any from bachelor from Bachelor Nation that you think
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: would make it a Bachelor?
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I mean I feel like all the guys from gen
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Z's are kind of just like, oh.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Can you please tell me, as somebody who's dating Sam,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: what actually went on with what's his name? Like literally
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember his name? The evil man? Oh Devin, Devin,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: thank you? Ben and I always joke about how like
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: we don't remember his name because like it's we raced
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: it from our memory because we should erase him from
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: our memory.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, Like and I know some people like weren't
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: like the hugest fan of Sam, but like what I
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: appreciate is that at least he like calls you out,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Like in the moment, I feel like Devin was just
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: like fake, like in front of Jen, this type of
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: person like different in person, but yeah, Sam just said
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: like you know, he ran his mouth.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: He said things like.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: He would make fun of like Sam's vans, like how
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: old are you? Like are you like almost thirty? Years old,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: You're making fun of the sneakers that he's.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Wearing, Like, come, we're weird. Yeah, I just think too.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: It's like the edit like Sam was made to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: like this type of person, and what I think is
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: really funny. Not funny, but like now in Paradise, all
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: these guys are getting some heat, and none of those
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: guys had Sam's back and like the mentel all, so
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, it's like, oh, now you
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: guys are getting heat, and Sam's not going to have
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: your back because you didn't have this at that time.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Not that Sam's spiteful like that, but like the only
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: person he was genuinely good friends with was like Thomas,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: and I feel like that was just on TV because
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Sam's the type of person that will like speak up
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: for somebody even if they won't speak up for them.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: But it's just funny to now watch these guys who
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: are like schitting on Sam now get the heat and
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: blame the edit. But when Sam did it, it wasn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: okay interating.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely read the character is wrong, thinking that
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Sam was the one and the wrong and Devin was
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: the fine one.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay, And I think it's cool, like a comebackstory,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: like find out what's like people are really about.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I know, and it would have been nice to see
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the two of you date in paradise so we can
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get to know both of you a little bit better.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Listen, you're preaching no us, girl, I get.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: It anyway, Ali Joe, thank you so much for joining us.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: When's the next time you're gonna see your boyfriend?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: He was supposed to come this weekend, but I think
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: we're just gonna push it till next week and then
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: it's like Labor Day weekend and we'll have some fun
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: if he comes here and me, we'll go on a
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: vote if I go there.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: We said maybe we'll do a Charleston.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So we're so nice.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have fun, and we're trying to make our
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: time together like really, you know together, we're not like
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: on our phones. But yeah, we always have a good time.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: It's always fun, whether we're like doing nothing or doing everything.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope you guys are together for a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: while and then we'll bring the two of you on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk about how love has formed and blossomed
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: off screen.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Perfect sounds good. I can't wait.
• 18:04
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• 18:08
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• 18:12
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