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Episode 173: The Real Problem with AEW... it's not Shane McMahon · Chucks Cantina

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: This is Chuck's canteena podcast where anything and everything is
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  Speaker 1: up for discussion, and now here's your barman, Chuck O'Donnell.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I understand the worry, but again, you have one of
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: the absolute world class, top tier actors coming back to
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: the thing he wants to come back to and he's excited.
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  Speaker 3: He's not obviously he's gonna beat for a paydate, but
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  Speaker 3: he's coming back because he genuinely wants to come back
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: and he wants you something different because you know what,
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: here's the thing, because here's the thing about him, really
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: the last thing about Downey. He is coming in because
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: when you think of i'm ce, you think of Tony
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  Speaker 3: Sucker's Iron Man, he wants to come in to go.
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  Speaker 3: When you think of this, you think of iron Man
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  Speaker 3: and you think of doom, because that's he has one
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  Speaker 3: he runs. He has one one. He only runs one
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  Speaker 3: way go. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Sor a eager to see how he differentiates the performances,
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: you know, right from like a nuanced actor perspective, it's
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  Speaker 4: like he kills Pepper. I feel like you got a
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  Speaker 4: good point that would sell the point home and it'd
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  Speaker 4: be a great kind of reveal like it was me all.
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  Speaker 3: Alone, your son of a bitch?
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  Speaker 2: God damn? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of wrestling references such a song part two,
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  Speaker 4: whatever the funk we're calling.
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  Speaker 3: This, I might I might put part two and a
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  Speaker 3: half because we've gone on an hour and ten. Man,
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  Speaker 3: this has been great conversa like good, this is how
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  Speaker 3: exciting this is? And the last thing about round?
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  Speaker 2: Does it last? And then we want.
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  Speaker 3: Okay as we do in the distance I talk about here,
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  Speaker 3: I wonder why.
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  Speaker 2: You hear that?
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  Speaker 3: This is how excited people are about this infam about
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  Speaker 3: this iron Man downy stuff. There is a funco pop
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  Speaker 3: called the Infants Infinis iron Man. It essentially is Doctor
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: Doom dress up as iron Man. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: This has been a pop that's been out for a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years. I myself have thought about buying this
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  Speaker 3: pop a couple of times. I have not. You can
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  Speaker 3: buy it online before last weekend for probably ten bucks
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  Speaker 3: through second hand markets.
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  Speaker 2: Would you to guess what's going for now?
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, I can't even imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Renee clicking.
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  Speaker 3: Klax sent me a couple I think the lowest he
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  Speaker 3: found was one eighty.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and that's based off of an actual comic
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  Speaker 4: apparently right.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not like the movie. It's not the movie version.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the only infamous funkal pop available. And here's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. Last week before last week, before Saturday night,
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  Speaker 3: you could buy it for ten bucks on second markets.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's going for about one hundred and fifty hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eighty on secondhand and people are buying it. So
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  Speaker 3: here's my word of advice for.
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  Speaker 2: You, people, stop it.
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  Speaker 3: The movie one's gonna come out in a couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: Not that, by the way, it's I don't own that
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  Speaker 3: funk go, but it's bad. I'll be up be first
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  Speaker 3: a minute. It's a badass looking pop, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a badass look. You can look it up right now,
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  Speaker 3: sick as hell. But the movie wants coming out a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years people. And by the way, with Downy,
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not just gonna be one you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have You're gonna have the funk go of him in
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  Speaker 3: the full suit. You're gonna have the funko of him
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  Speaker 3: with the helmet off because you gotta show that beautiful face.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have the funk go of him. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how many stark funkos I got two yeah, and then
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  Speaker 3: and by the way, oh take it back three. Holy shit,
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  Speaker 3: you're and there's a lot more Robert Downey funko pops
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  Speaker 3: out there with no Iron Man helmet on. You're gonna
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  Speaker 3: you're probably gonna have a damn l bad damage. When
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna have like a scene what you're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: a fucking ship done. Not that you can't get the
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  Speaker 3: comic accurate one.
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  Speaker 4: It's a cool looking pop. I say this, Did you
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  Speaker 4: say dammel damage, damn.
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  Speaker 2: Bad maybe battle, damn battle?
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  Speaker 3: Sorry late night battle damage, damn old damage? Why you
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  Speaker 3: were having a stroke anyway? I say this because it
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  Speaker 3: still angers me with the Sith Trooper, stop fucking pain.
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  Speaker 3: For that price, it is not worth that much. And
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  Speaker 3: to the guy who spend his COVID check on that pop,
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  Speaker 3: fuck you okay.
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  Speaker 4: Well drastic it will drastic go down once the movie
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  Speaker 4: comes out.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick knows, and my wife knows, and my parents know.
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  Speaker 3: There are very few things in life that can essentially
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  Speaker 3: anger me and trigger me. I hate that word. That
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  Speaker 3: is one of them. To that guy out there, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you received your check. You're allowed to spend your money.
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  Speaker 3: How you want to, but holy fuck, did you have
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  Speaker 3: to run it for the rest of us? Fuck you anyway?
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  Speaker 4: Something, go see something, it's me Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, so now we'll wait for if here's a drop. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so here they go, yep and okay, well let's.
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  Speaker 2: Go that in the distance. Here comes the money money,
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  Speaker 2: can we just we'll just okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: A photo came out where let me let me get
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  Speaker 3: this right. A photo came out of Tony Khan and
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  Speaker 3: Shane McMahon, or actually Tony Khan owner of A B
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  Speaker 3: and Shane McMahon, son of one Vincent Kennedy McMahon, or
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  Speaker 3: as they call him out in w W now who
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  Speaker 3: shall not be named.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretty much fucking pulled for he literally is.
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  Speaker 3: A photo of them came out of the two of
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  Speaker 3: them having a conversation at a Dallas airport. And this photo,
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  Speaker 3: mind you, wasn't a photo of like them candidly walking
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  Speaker 3: through the street like you see like in those like
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  Speaker 3: tabloid magazines.
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  Speaker 2: No, was it, Like was it a.
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  Speaker 3: Photo of Tony Khan eating a sandwich looking sad like Keanu?
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  Speaker 3: Of course not. No, It's a photo of the two
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  Speaker 3: of them in this office looking direct at the fucking camera.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Somebody popped into that room you're supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be there, wasn't supposed to be there, and they're.
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  Speaker 3: Like fuck, and they took the photo and they ran
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  Speaker 3: out and no one chased after.
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  Speaker 4: Them, and de Fest.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they let the photo get out. Someone within their
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  Speaker 3: groups took the photo and set the photo. Because Sean
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  Speaker 3: McMahon sitting there looking like, I mean, Jesus like Tanner
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  Speaker 3: than Hulk Colgan nineteen eighty five, you can pissed.
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  Speaker 2: Photo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked pretty pissed. And then Tony sark Has
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  Speaker 3: or Tony Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: Christ from from Comic Con.
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  Speaker 3: Ton Khan, one of the Tony's, has the weirdest fucking
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  Speaker 3: hand like position on his face, although he actually does
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  Speaker 3: look kind of generly like surprise.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give him that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Ben, this photo got out, and like again,
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  Speaker 3: this is something that they want to get out. They
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  Speaker 3: wanted this out. This is done by design. Why because
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: their biggest show of the year is happening in like
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  Speaker 3: what two three weeks by this time actually might have
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  Speaker 3: already happened. I don't know what what day all In.
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  Speaker 2: Is, but yeah, this photo is now obviously going what
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  Speaker 2: does this mean?
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  Speaker 3: What does it mean?
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  Speaker 4: Wait?
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  Speaker 3: When it's all in all in his August twenty fifth,
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  Speaker 3: So actually I think actually I think literally the week
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  Speaker 3: this episode comes out is when this will happen.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So this weekend, Yeah, so all that happens this weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is totally like they would totally leaked this on
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  Speaker 3: their own will well being they want people that get talking.
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  Speaker 3: I get it's smart market because everyone's talking about AW
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  Speaker 3: and a W Now the weekend of number Corns before
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  Speaker 3: the second bigest show they're being at being SummerSlam. Do
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going, Yes, there's no reason to let
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  Speaker 3: that photo go out if he wasn't joining the company.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: Now what's hilarious? There are two things that are hilarious. Okay, One,
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  Speaker 3: what was the premise of YEW started. It's a different
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: company that doesn't have any inflation with a McMahon. Not
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: that not that they're all the same, but it's the
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: one mcman But like it's kind of like Gizy by association. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: obwouls it's changed the last couple of years with Vince.
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  Speaker 2: Now being gone. AW is obviously no, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: say that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say they're like a down own spot
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  Speaker 3: right now, they're slowly moving back up, although they're rating
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: from the episode of July thirty first not so great,
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  Speaker 3: one of the lowest of all time. So not good
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  Speaker 3: when you're about to have the biggest show of your year.
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  Speaker 3: And also you're in the process of doing a rights negotiations, which,
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: by the way, as of August first, the exclusive rights
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  Speaker 3: between one of ours and a w A ended, so they
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  Speaker 3: get in negotiate with whoever they want, although apparently there
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: was no other deals done.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Secondly, do you remember a comment Tony Kahan made about a.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: Month and a half ago, jeez, which one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, then everything's great? No where He essentially alleged w
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  Speaker 3: WE being the Harvey.
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  Speaker 2: Weinstein a professional wrestling Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that one, Yeah, that one, yeah, live live TV.
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well on a not not on live TV, but
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  Speaker 3: on a live mic and a press friends, So now
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: you're going to hire literally the offspring.
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  Speaker 4: Said organization, Harvey Weinstein Jr.
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this, mister? First thought?
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: First thoughts if we don't end up getting a Shane
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  Speaker 4: McMahon versus Darby Allen in a who can jump off
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: the highest bullshit match? I think it'll be a wasted opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: But no real thoughts. Second thoughts. I mean, like it
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: depends on what his role is going to be, you
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, is this some ployed from
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: Shane's perspective, regain his past glory, get like a final
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: send off a run?
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Whatever?
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  Speaker 4: Is he going to be backstage and try to be
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: the corporate side of things and connections and do all
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: this extra shit. Is he gonna be yet another figurehead
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: in the business, in the business's history that Tony Kahan
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: apparently doesn't want to listen to and take advice from.
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, there's.
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: A lot of That's how it always goes.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: Apparently the upside is not high, the downside is pretty
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: fucking steep.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know.
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, like AW needs some kind of shot in
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: the arm to regain their glory. They're in a definite lull,
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: definite down period, which is just absurd considering the talent
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: they have involved right now, right but like, yeah, they've
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: just been Let's just put it this way. There's a
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: reason that WW is making moves big moves. You know,
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: I don't see a future where WW doesn't end up
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: doing Wembley as well.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's funny you mention that
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  Speaker 2: would you like to know who w WE met with
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  Speaker 2: last week?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: Ship the Mayor of London, The Mayor of London. Oh
• 11:14
  Speaker 6: so you got a little Wrestley promotion? Or do you
• 11:17
  Speaker 6: want to do old Wembley? You know what this good
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  Speaker 6: business might?
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Is that English?
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: It's Cockney.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: It's not the Queens English.
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  Speaker 3: They met with, Yes, they met with the or is
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: it United king which wherever? Wherever Wembley is it? Actually
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: it's in London, England. They met with the Mayor of
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: London because the Mayor of London. Long story short was
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: recently re elected and one of his big promises was
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I promise to do things to get because he's scentually
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: he wants London to be the mecca. It's such a
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: he wants London to be Vegas now, where it's the
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: mecca of sports, where all the big sporting venues come
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: all the bit. He says, I'm going to go after
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I'm going specifically named wrestle Mania, like
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: he's gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Go after you can have WrestleMania after Lucas Oil gets WrestleMania.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: That's so yes, that is that.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: And then what happened last week, actually what happened last
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: week about not even actually about a month before aw
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: has their biggest show at Wembley, Well, Triple H posted
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: a photo of him with Nick Cohn and doing the
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: point to the Mayor of London. So you gotta have
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: the point.
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, Tony, have fun, have fun in our backyard.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: And Joe, enjoy your last outing at Wembley because apparently,
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: by all accounts, so they're gonna try to get it
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: all in a Dallas stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Go luck with that.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: No, Like I we both want both of these companies
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: to be successful. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Per example, people are saying having go back to Tony Stark,
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: I mean Downey Junior comeback is a desperate by Marvel.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: You can argue that that's a fair it's a fair point.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Some are saying about that about Seane McMahon. I would agree.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing. It's only gonna make headlines for
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: what a day, and that's gonna be the same thing
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: that finally, like like, okay, what are you doing to
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: change it? Who knows maybe he legitimately does something that
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: that's a giant spark. Who knows he obviously has he
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: obviously knows some shit like he can't.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: You can't say he doesn't. He can't deny that.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like, this isn't hiring cmpunk,
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: this isn't getting Daniel Bryant, this isn't getting Adam Cole.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: You can't have him wrestle because the last couple of
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: times he's wrestled that it has not gone well.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Although you know what, actually know what. I take it back.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: You want Sea McMahon match.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: I want Patrick.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: I want a Sea mcman match where he's doing that
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: snug shit where guys literally get punched in the face
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: because he doesn't want to throw a punch. And I
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: want him to go against minormal Suzuki.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: That'd be great, that would be fantastic. May against Shane
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: I got that against the guy, like go on, I
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: I still wanna see who can jump off the higher
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: level of scaffolding, just to see.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: I mean if she would jump first, but then Darbiel
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: would like like crawl up there, like no, I have
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: to go up one run higher.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna wrap myself in barbed wire and like myself
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: on fire, coffee drunk, and.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna make sure that you are covered in
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: a plat of.
• 14:27
  Speaker 7: Glass something like that.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: It's a they have been stranger things in wrestling, true,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: you know, and but like it's not it's not Vince
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: McMahon's company anymore, so it's not as big of a
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: fucking move.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: It does seem a little desperate.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: It does seem like there could be some motives on
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Shane's part where it's like, yeah, let me uh, let
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: me get some of this this heat back, let me
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: get some of this this you.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean, let me u.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: It feels like when the when a celebrity pops up
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: on TMZ after they haven't done ship for a while
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and they're doing some Atlanta ship.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: That that you know, literally happened to Jonathan Majors a
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: couple of days ago, where they said, how do you
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: feel about twenty Sorry?
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: It was like, look, I'm happy for me. I think
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: it's a good idea. Do I feel bad about Kane?
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: But it is what it is.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like kind of old news, washed up, not really,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: but like you like, we don't is this gonna do
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the business that you're thinking is I don't know.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I mean what bus what business is it gonna do? Though?
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Like is it like is sham Like yeah, you know what,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: maybe you get like a bump in the rating, but
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: like at the same time, like it's not gonna like
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: you know, okay.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Is that Let's put him in there with will Ospray.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, not even that, like yeah or okay, you know
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: you're you're David Zaslav, You're a Warner Brothers executive. Okay, hey,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: we want a new we want a new extension.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: We just signed Shane McMahon. Yeah, okay, what happened to Punk?
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I've been this guy that's doing big numbers over there. Yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: you lost him because.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Because here's the problem too, it's like your your biggest starts. Okay,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: like you signed him JF and like we love him JF.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: But like every time he's on TV, the rains haven't
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: gone out really that much. Brian Danielson's reducing his schedule. Well,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Osprey can't do these you know, video game matches every
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: fucking week because he's gonna you know, fucking die.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, eventually his his his clock is ticking, right.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, because that's the thing, like his clock is
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: to like thankfully they got him now instead of like
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: three years later. But at the same time, it's like,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: we gotta figure some the nut guys. And again, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: hope it works out, but I just I just don't
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: understand this movie because, like I said, it's like it's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: given me Like the Jack Perry thing, they thought it
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: was gonna be a big deal, it said, people made
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: fun of it, It got a decent rating one week,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: and now where's that storyline. Now everyone's saying, just cut
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: this shit out. It's a fucking it's a fucking waste
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of time. But but they're like, no, we got to
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: stick to it. It's like, yeah, that's literally what Vince
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: did with some ship and it didn't work out for
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: most of that time. So yeah, man, there goes the money.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: There it is. It's gonna fucking I don't know. I
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: feel like it's gonna just ship out in their faces.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's gonna it's just gonna annoy more people,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: like they're just gonna piss off. I'm not saying it
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: can't work. I really hope it does, but I just
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, it's just going to annoy more people
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: to the point where you're like you're already have you
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: already have a hard time getting your old audience back,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And I just feel like it's just gonna get to the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: point where it's like people are just like, Okay, this
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: is like, like I said, like this is the last job.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: There's there is literally no point to this.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: You're not building new guys, You're you're okay, Because I'll
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: never forget. There was an interview they did years ago.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It was between Jericho and Cody, and like Cody said like, yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: we obviously want to be different, and what would Jericho say, Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: we don't want.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: It to be the company. It's like, oh this guy
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that we're going w A, he's here.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: All the top guys that majority of the card are
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: guys like that, not that okay, well of Spring yes
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and GF yes, not not w guys, but like how
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: many w W guys?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: They have quite a lot.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why was he okay?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Why why was aw first school?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't know who the fuck Darby Allen was until
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: that first match, and now he's like one of their
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: main guys. But yet it's been this on and on
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: off ship. Where the fuck happened? The ward lobe couldn't
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: fucking tell you?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what the hell?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Daniel Garcia, that's probably the second the guy who's not
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: we starts to get hot, they do one big match,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, they win or they get fuck yeah
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah, and then we don't see him for six months.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Man, it's just it's just been so much starting stop.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm just worried about, you know, Shane's career
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: going forward, you know what I mean, Like like, like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: you know, he's got all this momentum coming into this,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: He's got all this steam, and he's made his name
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: on the indies, and he's just you know, putting all
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: this work to get in shape and get his body right,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: and he's been making towns in.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: Japan and Mexico. Our match Oh wait, oh wait, none
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: of that is true. Actually, none of that is true.
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: Pop Boy is good, sir.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Do you remember what was the last thing Sean McMahon
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: did in a ring was, of course.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I did Snoop Dogg saved his ass from making a
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: fool out of himself because he's wanting to yes them
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: and Snoop Jog Snoop Dogg, as the consonan professional, jumped
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: in there and started throwing hands with the miss to
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: try and save the segment. And you know what, kudos
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: signed Snoop Dogg Shane McMahon because you know what, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: know what's said.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: This is what's gonna happen. They're gonna do the Shane.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Mcmappin and it's gonna be he's the guy who's financing
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the elite.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: That's what's gonna it's sup predictable.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: You think so und because again that's they are so
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: good home about making this V E VP bad guys
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: story work, but like it's not, it's not working.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I here's the thing. Yeah, am I a punk?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Mark?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yes? Do I agree more what he said?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Well, they said yes, but I have no ill will
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: towards those guys because why because I got how many
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: times was I those were you not? We're fucking all in.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: We are all those shows supporting those guys. Were we
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: said in the fucking nose bleeds? He was like, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: this is the fucking shit. But like we also like
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: the problem was was more times than not they originally
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: aw when it started when ship wasn't working out.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: They dropped that ship so fucking fast.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Do you want to why most people don't talk of
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the Dark Order because the first time they did a
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: second with them, it fucking shipped the bed and what happened?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: They cut that shit out so fast because it's the
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: right thing to do, and this THINGE is.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Not worked like Nightmare Family whatever that fuck.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the perfect example. And they cut that ship out too,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: so fucking quick, and guess what happened. And it led
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to but it led to bigger and better things.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But lately now it's it's a set vincig Manvent tell
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: You're like, ah, it's gonna work Pale.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: So Nightmare Collective was.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: They?
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: But again it there is there is?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Is there a way to make something good at this?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Do I think they can?
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: No?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Because of how wells worked out?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: And like what what are the what are the good
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: things that could come out of it? Like I can't
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: think of a single one besides the Darby Allen versus
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Shane Highest scaffolding dive wins match.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I think of a single one besides that, you know
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Like and like, look you talk about like some of
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the big names that AW has right now that are
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: like really appealing to watch. It's like they're not really
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: getting that showe you think of, like Pac and like
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Pack is just like in this weird slow build, like
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: holding pattern can the cash. It hasn't been near a
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: title for how long, you know what I mean? Like
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: he was in that tn T Ladder match and should
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: have won the thing, but of course they want to
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: push this EVP storyline.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Like I just.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Watched Knoski Takeshta versus Jeff Cobb in the New Japan
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: g One Climax.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That match was a.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Fucking Kaiju battle hoss fight, shaking the ring, super plex
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: off the top, bouncing the referee up in the air,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: fucking insane, And like does he get those matches?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Sure, I think Kenny Omega being gone right now is
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: a big fucking blow for the company. But you got
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: guys like Leo Rush who have like all the fucking
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: appeal in the world, who are athletic as fucking like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: do something with him, right, Do something with him, not
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: some random six man tag team match with two guys
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: that he hasn't even has no relation with, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: do something, Do something, bloated as fuck.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Like how many times has Knoski had a Match of
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the Year every three months and it's like, Oh, this
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: guy's fucking awesome, and then he sits on the shelf
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: for six he.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Shops on the he shits on the shelf. Yeah, that's
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: the Don Kallas family is Like what is the point
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: of this?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Like I get it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I get having Don Kallis as a manager of his
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: a mouthpiece. That's great, especially for a talent from you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: a foreign a foreign talent that could like their microscopes
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: could make or break them.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: But then like have a nothing seems like it's planned.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: It all seems by fucking accident, you know what I mean?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: What is Chris Cheriko doing this learning tree shit? Like, yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: it's funny, it's a gag. It's like this kind of
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: sending asshole. But like you've got him against Samoba, Joe
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Hook and Chibata. That's great, that's a great trio. Why
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: are they feuding with the guy who's got a singles title?
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Have them go for the trios title? So if you
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: want to push them as a trio, you know what
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it it doesn't line up like and
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: then Blood and Guts match, which used to be a spectacle.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, this is great, but teammate W is
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: like these guys versus the elite, they're feuding over the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: tag belts. Is what's happening, right, So like make some stakes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I I get it. I don't know, I get it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Like the luster, the shine of the new thing is gone.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: They're at the point now where when WA was doing
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: shit a couple of years ago, you always anticipate the worst.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: They're getting to that point. Yeah, they're getting.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Okay what they're doing with mjf right right, he's had this.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: He was heeled for a long time, became a babyface.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: That ship was super over It was campy and weird,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: but it was overworking. Unlike what the point where they
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: thought they'd do the predictable thing where one of them
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: turns on the other. It's like, Okay, it didn't happen
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: when we thought it would happen at at Wembley, but then.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: It ended up happening anyway.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: It ended up happening anyway, so like why not do
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: it on the big show, right?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But then they did it anyway? Right?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: And then like maybe they were shoehorned into it because
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: MJF was, but then they did it anyway, even though
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Adam Cole was hurt, and so like none of it
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: got capitalized on. And now look at that that faction
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: that was supposed to be established after that, where did
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the fuck.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Did it go?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: And like they get personal life shit happens, and like
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: that might have come into play with me. Yeah, but
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: then like but then like okay, MJF goes away, he
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: comes back.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And there's like all this fanfare and it's like, oh.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: So so sick. Yeah yeah, and then he turns to
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: heel again and it's the same shick we've already seen.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: And then they even went as far as to have
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: him win the title, which was this cool, shocking moment.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: But then what did he do?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: The most predictable thing an American heel could do is
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: turn the international title into a USA title American title.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, it's not happened in every promotion that you
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: can possibly think of. It's not happened with Lance Storm
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and WCW where he turned all these titles into like
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: the Canadian title or the Quebec Hardcore Championship or whatever.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: The oh I'm sorry the what was it, the Saskatoon
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: on a rary national title, the ship, Yeah was it?
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know, the Skatchewan Saskatchewan, the Saskatchewan title. It's
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: all fucking hack man, and I get like, there's this
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: aw was build and for the most part was where
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: it's like, we have every style you could want, we
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: have every type of match, we on our tradition, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: we're building a new thing into the forearm. But now
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: it's like you've gone into the realm of parody with it,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: where it's like, Okay, we've seen all this shit before,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: and like, you know, I'm not one of those guys
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: that's like a snob about wrestling styles. I love every style.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I could watch a technical classic with zachaber Junior. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: could watch a hardcore, fucking nutcase match like where Adam
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Page is drinking Swarre Strickly's blood, and I love every
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: second of it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: No?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: It was fucking insane, but I still enjoyed it, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: that that match was on the same card as these
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: other different styles.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: But it's also like we.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Don't want to We're we've kind of jumped the shark
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit where it's like Okay, you're a parody
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: of yourself at this point. You're you're repeating storylines that
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: we've seen before. You know, the guys that are putting
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: in the work and are doing these spectacular things, having
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: these awesome kinds of matches, they're getting overshadowed by this
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: other shit. And then like in a lot of ways,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I you know, I'm gonna eat my words, I'm gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: eat a little bit of crow, like when.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You know, aw kind.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Of had that bad cloud over their head with the
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: whole punk debacle, and that kind of overshadowed so much
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: of it. I remember recently I was like, oh man,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's finally I finally got the magic back.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: But it's like that was just a glimmer, you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: that's that's kind of been overshadowed again, you know what
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I mean. You know, And I think things like Forbidden
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Door are really appealing to me, but only because of
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: like the niche nature of having those kind of crossovers.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm still such a big New japan mark, Like
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I love watching every bit of what they have. It's
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: not all great, but the shit that's great, The fucking
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: dragout browls, the technical you know, masterpieces of matches, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: then like the athleticism and the drive, the fire, like
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that is what gets me right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not into like all the hockey stuff,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: the you know, the drawn out storylines, the shitty justifications
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: for things.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: And it's almost like, aw and WW have almost flipped
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: places at this point, you know what I mean, Like
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it's so weird to say that, but like it really
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: feels like that because like the Bloodline stuff that we
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier in the last episode or however you cut
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: this up.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: At this point, I have no fucking glue, but like it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Was, it was a shot in the arm for that
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: storyline because it's like, what do we do. We get
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: some new cast members in and it's fresh again. It's
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: new again, right, it's Bloodline and name only. It's got
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: this whole new flavor, this whole new intensity, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and it feels.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Like this rogue group of people and like they're just.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Kind of running shit, right, But it's still like it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: not campy, it's not cheesy, you know what I mean. Again,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: we're still talking about pro wrestling people. It's not like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you know, we're not talking about like fucking Academy Award
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: winning shit. But it's like they have stripped down WW
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: has stripped down all the extra fluff, all the unnecessary storylines,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: all that They've cut it down to the wire and
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: it's now it's more about the end ring performances, whereas
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: aaw it's like it feels like they're just throwing shit
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: at the wall sometimes and it's like, you.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Know, there's no direction.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's it's just so so cut, like
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: it's so desperate, you know, not desperate, but I'm tired,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: but like you know what I mean, though it's so distinct.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: There's two extremes old.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Are you tired? Are you tired?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: And I do literally, yeah, I feel a little sometimes anyway,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: go for it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: No, you're right, but like you're right because again you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head, Like it feels like
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the roles were reversed, and like here's the thing. Did
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Vince McMahon leave in a huge part of it? Yes,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: But like at the same time, even if Vince didn't leave,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: like just some of this ship that's going on, it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: just like what, like like what are you doing? Because
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: because because that's the problem, it's like Okay, everyone, we
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: love m JF awesome character, awesome performer, but it's like
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it's I hate to say, same old shick, which again
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: some rest that's what the would do. They go to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the town, they would sult the town and move on
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the next That's what it's like, what word do you want?
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: But it's like you're doing the same thing you did
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: two years ago. And again he's doing his job. He's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: going out there doing the best he's he's being told
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: to do. He's doing the best he can with what
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: he's got. But at the same time, like there was
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: such a there was a huge thing, even even without
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: the punk stuff, where it's like, again, if they could
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: tell something wasn't working, they would drop it. But the
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: problem was over the last couple of years, the things
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: that were working, they would drop him for no reason too.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Like again the word little thing, it makes no no.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Again, I get there were injuries and shit like that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: but like, you can't that makes no sense. Like the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: guy was over as fuck hell.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Takesha was having.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: These insane groundbreaking matches, losing most of them. But then
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: oh my god, but then Takesha would come on TV
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: for six weeks straight to stand there like, oh, here
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: comes to Kesha. What's he gonna do? Nothing?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Literally nothing, get in the background character. But and it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: just like what like what like what are because again here's.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: The thing I like, and I like hand hangman and
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the page I get telling the story about him and Swerve.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But it's like, is that really the because again, this
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: is not me just blowing smoke. Okay, before the pandemic, hell,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: even partially during the pandemic, this guy was on a
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: trajectory like Steve Austin. The guy was coming out kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: of being that tweeer taking people's beers that they bought
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: for twenty bucks at the fucking concession stand, drinking them
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: with not even asking, and people were going losing their
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: shit for it. That was the best hit mean that
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the drunk Hane man because he was sad about shit now.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It's like that that kind of storyline, like that storytelling
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: is so nuanced because like, you don't he didn't he
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: wasn't just a beer drinking found having guy. It's like
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: he's drinking all this stuff because he's like got dealing
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: with some real shit, like dealing with problems and that's
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: like a great story to tell, but now it's like,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I you, it sucks to say it, but like this
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: former world champion is kind of lost in the shuffle.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's like the storyline with.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Swerve should be over and there's nothing next for him.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: And then you like look at other guys like Scorpio
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Sky and Ricky Starks who are like off TV for
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: no reason, Like they've gone on interviews and said I'm
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: good to go.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I just am not being allowed to go. You know
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Dan Housen, I.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Mean doing Danhausen ship like.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: DV what's he's getting paid to?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Like what the fuck right?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And like you signed this guy who, like most wrestling
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: fans don't know, but you see, the guy is a literal.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Could have been the next Orange Cassidy.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: The guy is a.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Licensed toupi money because everything he puts his.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Name on fucking cells and he's character.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It's because it's probably because he's friends with the guy,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that guy who likes muffets.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And like he he could have been the next Orange Cassidy.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: He could have been like this joke character who like
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: has these great matches and puts in the fucking work
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: and then like you can do things with it, you
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's just weird.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: It's frustrating because like we not that we're still hopeful,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: but like it's just we there were such high hopes
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and again there were God when there's some good ass times.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I will never forget All Out twenty twenty one. I'll
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: never get all my Oh my god, twenty like literally
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: one of the best paper views talk that I read
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: to my entire life, I've ever seen anything. I hope
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: to God that the Wonder Brother deal happen, because my god,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I that's the one thing I hate, the fact I
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: can't watch a shit on like on a streaming platform.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: You can find online, but like I don't want to.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I wanted to search for that shit, you know what
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Like I literally I was with I was with my
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I was I went to go visit my folks a
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and uh, I went to hang
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: out with my with my mom and Scott on a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Friday night, and I went to my dad's a following day.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But Scott and I were talking about money.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: In the bank, and oh, I'm not gonna watch money
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: in the bank with him, like shit, Like I did
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: even think about that. So we're sitting there watching showing
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the ship while my mom's making dinners.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Like nothing on TV.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Do you know why I turned on turned on TLC
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: twentyd and one to wrestle May seventeen. Jesus Christian fucking
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: sick and like again Scott like again, you know, like
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: he's seen it, but like he's like, I don't remember
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: this spot, Like like obviously every remembers the Edge, the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Jeff already hated by the fucking threat and getting fucking
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: murdered by Edge spot, Like like you never remember the
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: fucking uh you know, like uh yeah, obliterating Spike Doug
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: with the chair.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Is that when Bubba Ray went through like four tables too?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, him and Matt went through like one hundred tables.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Insane?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: But this is like again, they have the promise, they
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: have the town to do it, and you're last thing.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And I know you've been on that. I appreciate you
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: saying on this like.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I need to I need to get some ship done too,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: but this is the last thing I gotta say. Oh
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: that was what this was? My Trana thought the one
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: thing I hate in wrestling. Okay, I haven't watched am
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, but I've been reading up
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: on about it, like stuff that's happened. They did an
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: angle last night with Danielson and Swerve. Yeah, dani Jilson
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: did the whole I know I'm leaving soon bit, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: if I can't beat you, I'm done. Thank you for
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: spoiling the fucking finish. That shit pisces me off because
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: there are ways where you can do the whole. I
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: will if I lose, I will never wrestle again. It's like, okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: like I don't know who's gonna win, But when you're
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: literally doing promotions and you've been saying it forever, my
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: last full time wrestling match is gonna be in Seattle
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: for the next pay per view that's been announced since
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the day he.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Made this announcements.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And then you say, if I can't beat you at
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: all in I will retire then, and like and he
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: literally said I won't because he said I'm not I'm
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: not doing the part I will not do the part
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: time thing. I will never wrestle again after August. And
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, we know you're gonna win, thanks for that, Like, fuck,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not gonna be incredible.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be incredible.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Skeptical but like like like I can't it's just like great, Now,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: why would why do you need to watch it?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I know it's gonna win.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: No, that can either pull some random ship.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Ow you're gonna do a fuck finish in the maniving
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: wrestle many let's see that's gone over so many well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: so many times with w w WA A few times
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: they've got it going over so well.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: That's my thing.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It's like they could do some random ship where they
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: do the unexpected and he actually loses but then swears like, no,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: you gotta keep wrestling. We're gonna don't give up yet,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: don't give up. Then it's like.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Chick my hand and let's feel the powers your night.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Sorry, but.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Five people will get that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Told me about the breeding joke, but it's your right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: It's like it we've talked about like treading old ground again.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: It's like how many times have we seen a fucking retirement,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: you know, seeing somebody say if I don't win, I'm done, right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: But then like yeah, like and then promotional ship has
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: already been out, you know, it spoils the fucking thing.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Right, it's fucking that is infuriating. I'm still gonna watch it,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Mean again it said w W a kind of style
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: ship back, a like the back in the day, like
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: how they used to do ship with that like spoiling
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: the fish before the big thing happens. And it's like
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and now yet you're about to bring in one of
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: the main pieces that they not saying that shit, but like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: you can't tell me he isn't his now again bile
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: accounts like he's a nice guy.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It's a bad omen well by.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: All accounts, like he's a nice guy and everything, but
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: like most reports, but here's the thing. His last standing
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: w where he was like in like some type of
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: like creative like management position. Vince McMahon himself had to
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: ask him to leave, yes, because he apparently did such
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: a ship job where people were literally literally visibly mad
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: at him. Even brock Lessner allegedly was like, get this
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: guy fuck away from me, dude, like the one you
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: don't piss off literally because he will literally snap you
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: in two and use you as fucking towns for his stakes.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Let's say, let's do a fun game.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Who would have been a worse person for.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: Tony Cone to be meeting with.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Who could have been a worse pick Vince McMahon himself. Maybe, yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: fucking nothing would have told Berg nah old, remember Wolve
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: been that bad?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: No, no, nothing would have top Vince.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Nothing would have toped Vince.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: But like, I just found an extended version of that picture.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: And who's in the corner, Oh my god, it's me,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: pale Vince McMahon. After taking illegal supplements. He actually looks
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: like Shane Vince McMahon and Shane's body all the.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Next couple of months.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: That's the only type of professional offense Vince McMahon will
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be in. He said, he'll be a different one words,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: he'll be getting viewed upon by his peers. At any rate.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: That wasn't a great.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Because I can't think of let's try that one again.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think of a good can think of a good
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: court joke?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Why don't you tell me a court joke?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Jesse venture is the judge?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Oh god, he's fucked.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You are good. Murder What I didn't tell anyone?
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Murder?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Death, Death's my chair?
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, Jesse, Judge Ventcher, how long? How long am
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I gonna be in jail?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: For.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Why don't you tell me.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: What's what's the sentencing?
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: Why don't you tell me that's not how this works.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: We'll figure out your set. You know what, you're going
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: to be in jail for every single day. You should
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: have paid me for my royalties. Why didn't you tell
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: me how much money I could have?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: So many people don't get that joke. Just look up
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Jesse Ventura vinsic Man and you'll find all these videos
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: of Jesse Ventura going All.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: The reason I left and went to the Baja is
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: because you didn't my royalties. And then I tried to
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: form a union with the rest of the guys, and
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: then I found on that whole hole game decided to
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: tell Vincent rap me out. Shortly after that, I was gone,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: but no one would tell me. Why wouldn't you tell
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: me who ratted me out?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Why don't you tell tell me?
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: When I was governor of Minnesota, I'm very sure everyone
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: got royaltation when I was governor of Minnesota, disclosed secret government,
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: secret government operations.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I gotta tell you this story really quick, yep, And
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna name it. The story I'm about to
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Jesse mister, I was literally like at the store today.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Pay less, you know, buying some groceries.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, you.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Don't pay less. He paid the same amount anyway. But
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I was like, you're asking this guy in the produce section.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: He works there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: He's putting some some lettuce away or whatever. And he
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: he asked him, all you have any mint? Do you
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: have any We don't have any mint. You know what
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: mints could or And he just starts to go on
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: and on about these different recipes and like grilling and
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: using a little pan with some woochups in and to get
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: a smoking flavor on a grill. You don't need to
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: buy a smoker, YadA YadA. And I hand some groceries
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: off to my girlfriend. I'm like, you're gonna go go
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: get the rest of her groceries.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: This is going to take a while.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm waiting for him because I see there's no
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: cilantro up where the cilantro should be, and I'm like, okay,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: maybe he's got some cilantro. So I'm still talking to
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: this guy and then he starts talking about, oh, when
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I was in the woods, I actually, you know, heat
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: it up a rock to five hundred degrees and cooked
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: some brownies.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And this, this, that and the other. I was like, Oh,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: that's that's cool. Why are we in the woods by yourself? Uh?
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: You know, he got dropped off there and then he
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: goes I got dropped off there and I was just
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: told to survive. And I'm like, oh, that's crazy. What
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: was that about? Its military? I'm like, oh, okay, what
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: branch of the military were you in? He was like
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I couldn't. I can't talk to I can't talk about it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, uh, okay, okay and uh and then.
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: It was like, well, why don't you tell me?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: No, then that's some kind of secret operative that's playing
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: it in the pay less. I think he's just waiting
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: for some mortars or something. But shout out to that
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: one guy, I hope you don't kill me in my sleep.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: With a rubarb.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Why don't you tell me that you go on a podcast.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Why didn't you tell me that you were going to
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: my store? Why don't you tell me that you were
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: going to ask me these questions? Why don't you tell me?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I just hope his trigger phrase isn't where's the cilantro?
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Because he could have snapped into a few state friends.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: All I'm saying is that I think I met somebody
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: who can kill you with a leak and not even blink.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm also like, what military training is it? Where
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: you get sent off into the woods with nothing and
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: our task to survive, and yet you still have time
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: to make brownies? Like?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: He cooks brownies on a rock of Gordon Ramsey? Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: it's Gordon Ramsey's secret service him.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What's your idiot sandwich?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: We're called the Iron chefs, called the Iron Sights chefs.
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: Go so so if Gordon Ramsey, if Gordon Ramsey is
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: like the Navy seals of like the restaurant like military branch?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: What what branch is? Fucking?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Fun? What the I just thought of his name?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Fucking spiky hair shirt, flaring fleet guy, Fiery guy fiery.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: He's definitely air Force air Force here, he's the air
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: He's the air fryer Force.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Who's the coast Guard?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Fuck Bobby Flay. I don't know. I was gonna say
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: George for me because of the grill. At any rate,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: thank you, we'll get out of here. It's way late
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: before we get out of here. And you got any
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: other things?
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Stories and you want to say, promote plug before you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Don't be afraid to talk to strangers. They might tell
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: you interesting stories about cooking brownies in the woods.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: You're a stranger.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: Why don't you tell me how to cook brownies with
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: a rock? Why don't you tell me?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, sorry?
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: How do you fucking heat a rock to five hundred
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: degrees in the woods?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You have to do some castaway ship.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I google it spoiler which, by the way, cast away
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I talked about this before on the podcast too, one
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of the absolute worst chairs of all the time, where
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: it's spoils that he fucking survives at the end. Fucking stupid, right,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: fucking stupid some a wuck.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm giggling how to cook food with a rock?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: While you're doing that?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Let me just go okay, let me get the host
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: by the way, as always, uh, that's oj patron.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: While he looks up this how to cook a rock?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: He's definitely not gonna leave cook a rock?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: How do use a rock to cook? How do you cook?
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: How do you cook a rock?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I have ninety days in the woods eating nothing but
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: rocks and twigs.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I have no teeth left. There's just nothing but my guns.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I love how this says to preheat your fire.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's how that works.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Chucks Cantina at gmail dot com chux Cantina on your socials,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you guys reach out to me on pod match. Some
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: more exciting things come up connected with some other content
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: creators or podcast people through podmatch.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Also outside the avenues. I'm not gonna say who yet
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because we're still work on the details and the dates.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be doing a lot of stuff while I'm
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: away visiting, even my beautiful wife.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Definitely gonna be doing a couple of decent our decent
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: amount of more podcasts in September, So there might be
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: a couple week secution where there's multiple podcasts.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I'm still working on. That depends on scheduling.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Did we figure it out yet?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Huh? What's with this rock thing? Oh? I thought you
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: were talking about scheduling.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: But apparently in the early days of e I Answer generations,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: they claim that Berkeley geologist said you should eat one
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: small rock a day.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, on that note, you need rock.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: Uh, And on that right, tell me the government doesn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: want you eating rock.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Governor of Minnesota.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: Twenty years ago.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no Ab could board a plane back to
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: the bar.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: That is OJ patron Patrick.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: We have meal sincerely to see him Punk and Ronald
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: schwartzingersf We ran out of time tonight. As always at
• 47:29
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• 47:31
  Speaker 2: We will see you well, well, I mean I won't
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: see you all. We will see you all next week. Commission,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: commission my arms, Jesse, take.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I can't touch your arms.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Shots.
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: They're not bleeding.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I only got time to bleed for me. As always,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: be nice.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: If you had drinks like we did not have tonight,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: please get on safe, be smart, and it's not off
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: the sweep and the fine words of Tony Stark buzz
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: off squid word