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- Welcome to Quantum Bombs, a commentary show on the human condition through metaphysics and freedom. Today we are getting deep into metaphysics because we are doing another deep dive into ontology. Today we are going to ask the easy question of if there is a God, how does he interact with we humans? What does that relationship look like between him and this crazy world we are living in? I want to give you the framework that the biggest thinkers, the philosophers, the physicists, people like Aristotle, Aquinas, Spinoza, all of them used a framework to ask these fundamental questions of life. And I want this to be something that is like food for thought for you so that when you are driving around and you are having these life thoughts, or when you are in the shower, you are thinking about this. I want you to, it is going to help us remember the framework on all of these weird buckets that were put into in life, like if you are a believer, you are already in one of these buckets or if you are not, etc. We are going to revisit that framework and see if there is any paradoxes, is it messy or no, it is cut and dry, and if I do my job correctly, I should, I want to really paint out a physical understanding of how it operates, almost where you could go and tell a friend and explain it. I am actually going to land us perfectly an answer to a prior show I did on Ontology. You do not need to watch these in order, but go back after this one and find it. It is called, the thumbnail will say like, what is God made of, right? On a prior episode, we discussed what is the fundamental substance of reality. How in the heck does God dance with us here in life? So let us jump into a picture to just warm us up with this first. Okay, for those listening, we have got a funny picture on the screen, theology for dummies. We just want to remind ourselves what some of these words mean. The question is, does God exist? And we have a yes from a theist, a polytheist would say, oh yeah, many exist, a deist would say yes, but he doesn't matter. A pantheist would say yes, he exists in nature. A non-believer doesn't care. An agnostic would say, I don't know. And an atheist says no. I want to touch on the five that are most fundamental for the structure of how all this stuff works. So we are looking at four right now. The first one is atheist, and we've got a circle drawn to represent our universe, okay? And they're separated. So that's very clear, cut and dry. Next we have deism. Most people will remember that our founding fathers were deists, right? D.S.C. God, as he created the universe, hence there is a dotted arrow to a circle representing our universe, but he doesn't interact with it whatsoever. He just made it bloop and pretty much forgot about it, okay? And then we have theism, which is kind of putting us, we all have heard the term theist, right? Most of the Abrahamic religions fall under this Islam, Judaism, Christianity. They believe God created the universe, and he's a personal God, and he does interact with it. So that's why that arrow is a solid arrow. He does interact with our universe. He's listening, he's watching. Okay. Those are mainly our western side of thinking. We jump onto the right side. We've got some eastern thinking. You've heard of pantheist. We've got now a circle that has God equals the universe in it, right? Pantheist is, there's no real separation. It's just like the universe, a good, I think Spinoza was one, Einstein was one. And these are okay buckets, but I was super excited to find this other bucket that makes way more sense to me. Okay. And now we come to the one that the fifth one, I now have a circle that says pantheism. Yay. I think it's the bridge between east and west. It's a hybrid of both. It is a circle that has universe in the center that is encircled by a larger circle of God saying nothing, everything outside of the universe, the only thing that exists outside of that is God, meaning everything is happening within the mind of God. Everything is happening. Now, I wanted to give one Bible quote. Please put in the comments all the other quotes that you could find from the Bible. I know there's many that support this, but one of them is Ephesians four, six, one God and father of all, overall, through all, and in all that supports this. Okay. What I love about this is that the circle is very visual for you to understand that nothing exists outside of God. So our universe exists within God and nothing is existing outside of God. What does that really mean physically? Follow me here on this little thought journey. Okay. So we have space time. If you have to think that's all we have, right? That's all we know. It's the physical measurement of everything that is detectable and measurable. We can't even get into like a rocket travel at the speed of light to get outside of our own space time because of the rate of expansion we've been expanding for all this time, which I would also like to argue that when you're thinking about realms and dimensions in heaven, that most likely is outside of space time. Space time is anything measurable and deductible and we know that heaven and the astral heavens and the causal heavens, all of that has to exist at a different type of, I don't want to say vibratory measurement, but a density, a different density. So space time is most likely measuring things here that is in this matter world. But if you think about it, before all that is existed, rewind back to that, there was something thought, spirit, and it expanded outward, right? So what we're saying is God is everything that is space time, every rock, every subatomic particle, every force, and outside of space time before the moment, before the singularity, before the big bang, before the expansion, there is something else. And that is what I've given it the term, the fundamental field, you'll hear me always talk about it, it's my own coin, I termed it, I coined the term, the fundamental field, the larger consciousness system, aka God. And I want you to have a really cool understanding of that. How do you understand this apparatus of the fundamental field that is permeating both outside space time and here inside of space time? And I want to make it bite sized for you. So let me see if I can get this going right. I have something I call a field, I call a field sandwich. And one day I'm going to make a show on it, but I'm just going to give you some brief notes of it. First, we're just going to have a quick, easy basics of quantum physics. We know that there's like a periodic table for our elements in life. We have the same thing in quantum physics called the standard model. There's 17 fields in this model. Some of them are matter, some of them are forces. We have our Higgs field. What's beneath that field is the quantum vacuum, the zero point energy vacuum, where all of these 17 fields can emerge from. But what's beneath that ground state is the fundamental field I'm talking about, the same fundamental field that permeates every atom, every rock, all of our little subatomic particles that are coming together. But it also goes beneath our physical world and a great way to understand it. I'm going to give it to you in the most robust way I can to be fair. Three different physicists, three different vibes of how they study and write extensively in their life work about this fundamental field. They are my heroes. They're my favorite. And I hope to interview them one day on a documentary I'm making, which is why I have this field sandwich knowledge to begin with. I won't be in physics forever. Okay. So there's a consciousness field that that's how Fagan, Fred Rico Fagan sees it. Thomas Campbell sees it as a probabilistic simulation. And Nassim Hermine sees it more so in a unified field through geometry and holograms and things like that. So you could already see there's different approaches to how we're going to be talking about this energy field. Or is it a non-energy field? Is this fundamental field part of these 17 quantum fields that we have in our standard model separate in that it's not part of the standard model? It exists outside of space time or beneath it, depending upon the model, but it's connected in that it may be the substrate from which these 17 fields arise. So again, is the fundamental field non-energetic energy and physics is always refers to measurable quantities within space time, kinetic potential, thermal, electromagnetic, et cetera. So this is kind of where it gets paradoxical because it doesn't really fall under any of those. But yet we have physicists that are studying it, you know, we know it's there. So the consciousness field as proposed by my three physicists, it doesn't carry energy in that sense. It's not a force field, not scalar, not quantifiable and joules or photons. So isn't God a kind of energy, isn't consciousness not alive or vibrational? Because that was my question I had posed if, you know, isn't it vibrational if it's alive or consciousness? Fagan's model, the fundamental field is informative and aware. It precedes all structure. He might say it's prior to energy, but gives rise to the energy. And Campbell's work, the field is a learning system. And tell me this doesn't sound like religion. It's driven by evolution of consciousness to lower entropy through love, order, cooperation. That's movement intention. So what we're describing is movement intention, something like energy, but it's not technically, it's not physical. And then in Hermine's cosmology, consciousness and geometry arise from the vacuum, a place bursting with potential. But he even implies the intelligence behind it isn't energetic in the physical sense. It's directive, not kinetic. So we've just described something that exists, but it's not energy. It's like thought or an idea. And Hermine, what we're talking about, this is the zero point energy field we're talking about. Not only is it a great phenomena in quantum physics, it is the bridge between physics and spirituality, the zero point energy field. So our clean takeaways on this fundamental field, again, the fundamental field is my word for it. There's many other words for it, consciousness, zero point energy. I don't know. That's the whole thing is we're talking about something that the world doesn't acknowledge, but yet it's the most real basic thing throughout all we have. We've heard it as ether. I could give you a laundry list, but we're not going to do it today. This is going to button it up. This is a little few easy sentences to understand what we're saying. Fundamental field is not energy as we know it, but it may be the source from which all energy emerges. It does not vibrate in space. It creates vibration. It does not move through time. It gives birth to time. So yes, you're right to say God feels like energy, but when you're learning and what your docu-series is beautifully expressing is the source feels like energy because it animates everything, but it is beyond energy. It's not a wave. It's the reason the wave can exist at all. It's not made of energy. It is what makes energy possible. Not a force within the universe, but the reason the force exists at all. You know, as I'm reading this on my brain is thinking like, you're right. What we're describing is beneath all of this physical mass, but I realize thankfully the Holy Trinity basically saves this and makes it a lot more digestible because if I'm sitting here explaining to you, oh, God isn't the part of the physical universe like my hands and my brain and my thought. He's only behind it beneath the ground state outside of space time, but we know that the Holy Spirit permeates through all throughout. So that is why the Trinity makes so much sense. We can cover it on a different episode because I don't want to get too heavy and, you know, that's its own episode. But the point, the point is though, the Holy Trinity is perfect. In Hindu, it's called Om Tat Sat. They have their own Trinity. Well, they don't have their own Trinity. They're just acknowledging the same three fundamental things needed in physics for this whole existence to come about from tiny little nothingness into this virtual simulation that we most indeed are living in. The funny thing is, we think we're theists, but most people are actually panintheist because we know that God is everywhere all at once listening, etc. Permeating throughout. Maybe not all of us. Some of us. That's the whole point of this is I want you to start thinking how do you see this? God being everywhere. So we have this God that we all agree that he is omniscient, omnipresent, etc. So we pray to a God like that, right? So when you're praying, you're not praying and God is necessarily listening to you. You actually don't realize is you are part of the larger consciousness system, this massive fundamental field for lack of a better way to describe it. Think of it as an octopus. We're really here on earth, the right hand beating up the left hand. But like if you look at your body, it's the same thing. So we're all, you know, that's why you could say we're all children of God. We're all this massive God apparatus, this larger consciousness system, these little tiny points of views that he set out back to the prayer. So when you're praying, he's not listening to you. He actually is you. However, the difference of separation, the beauty he gave you is your free will. He's listening. He's listening to you, but he is also, he's there with you because that's how he can hear your prayers. However, you have this beautiful free will. That's the one thing God didn't give himself. He did not give himself your love. That's part of his beautiful game to entertain himself. He wanted to give you this free will to see will you choose him, will you come back to him one day? But that's a, again, a philosophical topic for another day. Oh, so I hope that helped you clear it up. You know, when you are praying, God is listening, but God is actually part of you hearing every one of your thoughts, but knowing you have free will is separated from your tiny little POV that he gave you. But here's the great thing. So when you're praying on something, it gets shot out into the fundamental field, this thought matrix that everything's connected through. And then what if your neighbor is also praying on the very same thing that you're praying on as Thomas Campbell would explain it using the double slit experiment is that it's hiring the probability that the prayer will come true. You're, because your thoughts become things, right? Your thoughts become reality. That is why it's a different, I don't know if Thomas Campbell's, I'll be honest, I don't know if his interpretation of the double slit experiment is like the pilot wave theory or the popular Copenhagen interpretation, because I don't necessarily agree with the latter theory, but I understand it when he's talked about it on Joe Rogan, the way he was, which is our thought, basically everything is a probability. So if a hundred of us in this, all the same area prayed more, more likely to have the outcome or even easier to understand if all of us believed that we as humans could fly, we would actually be flying. And I know you're saying, well, that's, that defies logics and physics, but well, I mean, they also told the Wright brothers that we can't fly planes that that defies physics and it happened. Another thing I wanted to do is ask AI the obvious question. So isn't Christianity sloppy to walk around as theists? Meanwhile, their Bible clearly is pen and theism. I'm taking a lot of liberties guys don't hate me. I know that there's so many people that are going to push back, but I mean, we do pray like pan and theist. God has taught to us as we're pan and theist, but yet some reason we call ourselves theist. Yes. And that's a sharp point of for the show. It knows I'm making your show. The Bible is loaded with pan and theism language that Christians quote all the time. Oh, for him, for in him, we live and move and have our being. Oh, I love that. He is before all things and in him, all things hold together. Man, that sure does sound like the fundamental field. Do I do I not fill heaven and earth? Oh man, that's awesome. That goes to exactly what I was saying that heaven is outside of space time and he fills both heaven and earth. That's not a God sitting on a throne pointing down. That's a God permeating everything. That's your fundamental field. Okay. Let's be part mainstream Christianity inherited a heavy theistic framework from Greek philosophy and from Roman, Roman imperial structure. God is King separate ruling from above. So that's how we kind of got to adopt this weird word theist when we're really pan and theist. The mystics with Christianity, they give a bunch of, um, examples. Oh, I love seeing the Eastern Orthodox in there. I've been lately reading and watching a lot of their stuff. These lean pan and theist, but they were often sidelined or called heretics. So the short quip for camera Christians walk around as theist pray like a pan and theist quote like a pan and theist scripture and nobody told them make the argument for Christians that they are indeed theist and not pan theist. Let's see what it says now fair. The strongest theist arguments, Genesis one, one in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth created, not became not emanated from. He made something separate from himself. Well, I could, I would argue that could be solved with the Trinity, the personal relationship. Christianity is built on a God. Well, I talk about that a lot. My other videos, which is I think a lot with an order to explain the fundamentals, the physics of how God created this world. You've got to talk more in philosophy and more in physics and less in this personalized God. But if you need them in a white robe, that's perfectly okay too. Everybody's got their own idea of how it works. That requires a separation. Again, the Holy Trinity really personifies all of this that we need to make it work a pan theist. Oh, that's an interesting one. So I'm going to push back. So it's saying a pan theist God wouldn't punish. Okay. But again, if we are here and we're the right hand in the left hand, and we didn't even know, but we're all one. And this is just a simulation for souls to grow. The purpose of life is so realization and giving away future episodes of mine. But if you're just here to discover that you're working on your soul attributes, that's what we're here on earth. And also God is playing game with himself. He wants to see us choose him, right? Remember the free will I talked about. So anyways, there is no real suffering because this is all just happening in the mind of God. The same way you wake up from a dream is the same way that you will wake up in heaven one day. And this isn't real. This is not our home judgment. Heaven and hell require a judge who is the separate from the judge. If the God is all things, he is the sinner too. This is a beautiful topic for another show, but I again, we'll have equipped to it. It complicates the moral framework, but again, go back to what I just said. If this is just assimilation for God's entertainment, then it's all right. It's the right hand hurting the left hand. I know what you're thinking. This is a big pill to swallow for someone that hasn't heard someone speak this way. But again, this is what I mean by if you want to make it all work and like answer the fundamental questions like, why does God allow suffering? And you're philosophically, you can't have logic walk on each other and have something that doesn't make sense. And so it gets answered in quite different ways that you're like, whoa, it kind of is mind blowing, free will in the fall. Adam chose to separate from God. If God contains everything, Panathias style, true separation becomes logically harder to explain. I don't know. Again, I go back to the Trinity. Those are three really good fundamental building blocks, meaning a son, right? Like Christ represents humanity. He sent a son to show the separation and the difference. And then again, that would go more back into the projection of light, the false reality that there is even a projection and a light. I mean, the, the Trinity can go so deep and I want to do a different episode, but those are my thoughts. So maybe these are some of the things I need to make shows on is pushing back on some of these fundamental thoughts. Because again, I think a lot of this, a lot of Christian thinking and how we see our God can be explained, but we just have to use it more so in the framework of physics and philosophy. Oh, oh, don't say that out loud. Okay. I'm going to take this one with you. I didn't expect it to just really hit this on the head. So the honest takeaway for your show, the theology is Panathias, meaning we are as Christians in Panathias, but for the story structure, it has to be theos Christianity needs that separation to make the narrative work fall redemption judgment, then reunion without theism. There's no drama. There's no rescue mission. I totally agree because when I start talking to how I see things, which is different from post-moderity Christianity, I see just the setup quite differently of why we're here. It doesn't work for a lot of people. And that's the narrative I had to get away from in my own personal life, the narrative of such a walking around with so much unworthiness, I guess. That's the tension. And that's probably why it's sloppy because it's both and nobody reconciled it. Are you just saying that to agree with me? Mark, what if I was a roaring traditional Christian? I don't consider myself traditional post-modern. I consider myself original, which is quite different, but hey, we're all friends anyway. Okay. So our answer is, is, is interesting. It's TLTR, but it is bringing up the paradox of the whole point, which is it's not sloppy. It's intended to be basically to have their, their camp, their, their feeder in both camps is what it's saying. They'd say that pantheism versus describes God's eminence and that the theist first describes his transcendence and holding both intention is exactly what Orthodox Christianity has always done. It's not sloppy. It's the whole point. Finite minds aren't supposed to resolve it. A traditional Christian would also say pantheism is dangerous because it blurs creator creation distinction, which is the bedrock of, of I would say post-modernity Christianity. Again, I'm pushing back saying that original Christianity didn't have this original throughline. You are not God. You are not a piece of God. You are made by God. True. I believe that we are made by God, but the fundamental substance that holds us all together is God and that if God wanted to turn lights off on his entire picture show at any point in time, he could okay, made in his image, but you're not him. The month. Yes, we're not. He has control of the light switch. The moment you say God is experiencing himself through you, which I do believe a traditional theologian says you've crossed into heresy, my child. That's a closer to Hinduism than Christianity. So if you use this on the show, the honest framing is you're not exposing Christianity as sloppy. You're exposing attention that theologians have debated for 2000 years and intentionally left unresolved. Some call it mystery. Some call it sloppy where you land says more about you than about the Bible. Well, isn't that beautiful? I promise to show that's paradoxically nuanced and we have delivered. Please comment below. If you agree, if you disagree, which camp are you in? We put our feet in the mess today. I got I drew us right there. I love asking AI knows kind of what I want to hear. I like pushing back to the opposite end and it landed us exactly where this 2000 year argument, we could see the exact contrast, right? I push it too far by bringing up the fundamental field where all this interconnected organic being that isn't even energy. And are we really the right hand talking left hand? Because that's heresy. You know, like we've really got into the, the, the muck of what I want you to drive around and maybe you'll be thinking about in the meantime, stay free, but not just free, absolutely completely liberated, zooming about that fundamental field moving faster than the speed of light. Later Gators. Bye.