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- 0:00Hi, I'm Jay Fallon, and this is the slippery slope.
- 0:03So let's look at this article. It's titled Australian Federal
- 0:07Police Detective gaoled after admitting to lying under oath
- 0:12about evidence. This article here comes from the
- 0:15ABC. There's a picture here of this
- 0:17police officer. So what's happened is Trent
- 0:20Maders gave sworn evidence in 2020 that he later admitted was
- 0:26false, pleading guilty to perjury in the ACT Supreme Court
- 0:30after being charged in 2024. Maders was a senior Australian
- 0:35Federal Police detective. Was today a sentence.
- 0:39This was a couple of days ago, now today's sentenced to gaol
- 0:42for the crime, which the judge described as a tragic
- 0:45misjudgment. I think that's a tragic
- 0:47understatement. OK so matters has been suspended
- 0:51from duty since 20/24. He was suspended to a year in in
- 0:56prison to be suspended after four months.
- 1:00So get into the article. So he's a senior AFP detective
- 1:04who admitted to lying underoath about evidence seized during a
- 1:08criminal investigation. He's going to be spending, he
- 1:11will spend four months behind bars.
- 1:13Trent Matters, he's 52, pleaded guilty to a court to a count of
- 1:17perjury in that he knowingly made false statements in legal
- 1:21proceedings in August of 2020. In handing down his sentence in
- 1:25the ACT, Supreme Court Justice David Mossop said matters
- 1:29conduct reflected a tragic misjudgment.
- 1:33The perjury was career destroying.
- 1:36Well, when your when your whole career is based on telling the
- 1:40truth and uncovering the truth, it should be destroying.
- 1:44So it was career destroying and much more serious than the
- 1:46conduct it was trying to hide. That's what the justice said.
- 1:50He said matters undermined the proper administration of justice
- 1:53and had an impact on the perception of police being
- 1:56honest and reliable. Yes, indeed.
- 1:59So matters was the officer in charge of the 2019 investigation
- 2:03into identical twin brothers, Joshua, who was also an AFP
- 2:07officer, and Keenan Tiffin, who were accused of secretly filming
- 2:13female tenants at a Canberra property they owned.
- 2:16Oh my goodness, OK. So during the investigation,
- 2:21police seized a mobile phone and laptop which was which were
- 2:25required to be examined within 30 days unless an extension was
- 2:29granted. Matters did not seek an
- 2:31extension, was later told by AFP digital forensic staff that the
- 2:35devices had not been examined within the required time frame.
- 2:40But when the admissibility of the evidence was challenged in
- 2:44the ACT Magistrates Court in 2020, Matters gave sworn
- 2:48evidence that he'd been assured the devices had been examined in
- 2:52time. Why would you even lie about
- 2:54that? It's so easy to uncover, OK?
- 2:58He maintained the account that account under cross examination
- 3:02despite being confronted with emails showing otherwise, and
- 3:05has since admitted those statements were knowingly false.
- 3:08My goodness. The Tiffin brothers were
- 3:12initially found guilty in 2022 but successfully appealed their
- 3:17convictions after evidence obtained from the laptop was
- 3:19ruled unlawful. The case was sent back to the
- 3:22ACT Magistrates Court and the brothers were found guilty again
- 3:26in September 2025 of attempting to capture indecent visual data.
- 3:32That's disgusting. And these, you know, matters.
- 3:35And the younger guy? AFP officers.
- 3:38OK, so prosecutors. Keegan Law Lee argued Matters
- 3:42lies were deliberately told, repeated and maintained.
- 3:46This is an offence that strikes at the heart of the
- 3:49administration of justice, he told the court.
- 3:52So the defence barrister said matters admitted his offending
- 3:57was the dumbest thing he has ever done.
- 4:00It's an understatement buddy. He is remorseful, he has
- 4:04demonstrated insight, he has taken accountability, she said.
- 4:07She described matters as an overworked officer who was
- 4:10experiencing significant stress, pressure and fatigue due to his
- 4:16time in the police force in the ACT.
- 4:18The court heard it was likely he would need to be transferred to
- 4:22a faraway NSW Correctional Facility if a gaol sentence was
- 4:26imposed. But Miss Morrow argued he would
- 4:29be exposed to a heightened level of risk as any police officer.
- 4:33Whoever has to go to gaol, come on lady.
- 4:36Heightened level of risk in any prison due to the national media
- 4:40attention he received through his involvement investigating
- 4:43Brittany Higgins rape allegation.
- 4:45Oh my goodness gets worse. Justice Mossop sentenced him to
- 4:51almost a year in prison to be suspended after four months,
- 4:54after which he will be subject to good behaviour order.
- 4:59Matters has been suspended from duty within the AFP since he was
- 5:04charged in 2024. In a statement, the AFP said
- 5:07Matters was still subject to an internal investigation into his
- 5:10conduct. OK, so now let me give you my
- 5:14opinion on this. Oh my goodness, my head's
- 5:16exploding after reading all this.
- 5:18Because this case, you know, obviously it's a touch bigger
- 5:22than one AFP detective lying underoath.
- 5:26This is a symptom of a deeper cultural, the deeper cultural
- 5:30rot inside our institutions, which is what I've been talking
- 5:34about for years now. An Australian Federal Police
- 5:37officer, a detective, gaoled lying underoath about evidence.
- 5:42You think about that. The AFP supposed to be the gold
- 5:46standard of policing in this country.
- 5:49They're the ones who investigate corruption, terrorism, organised
- 5:53crime. So do state police.
- 5:55But when you're talking about national organisations that
- 5:59being investigated, national corruption or national crimes, a
- 6:03lot of the time the international crimes, it all
- 6:05comes back to AFP leading the charge.
- 6:08They're the ones other agencies often look to for leadership.
- 6:12And yet here we have an AFP officer who didn't just, he
- 6:16didn't just make a mistake, didn't just misremember
- 6:18something. He lied underoath, he lied in
- 6:21court, he lied in a sworn statement.
- 6:24He lied in a way that could have destroyed someone's life.
- 6:28This is it's not a paperwork error.
- 6:31It's and it isn't a training issue.
- 6:33This is deliberately deliberate deception by someone entrusted
- 6:39with enormous power. And he's, I suppose the
- 6:42uncomfortable truth. It's it doesn't just happen.
- 6:45It didn't just happen in a vacuum.
- 6:47When a police officer lies underoath, it tells you
- 6:51something about the culture they come from.
- 6:55Because no officer wakes up 1 morning and suddenly decides to
- 7:00fabricate evidence or mislead a court.
- 7:03That behaviour grows in an environment where accountability
- 7:08is weak, leadership is complacent.
- 7:12Remember, we're talking about AFP.
- 7:13Officer accountability is weak, leadership is complacent.
- 7:17Integrity is optional. AFP and the culture rewards
- 7:22results over truth. This is exactly what we've been
- 7:26seeing across multiple policing agencies in Australia, not just
- 7:31the AFP. Whether it's officers falsifying
- 7:34affidavits, manipulating evidence, abusing emergency
- 7:39powers or hiding misconduct. But behind internal processes,
- 7:44the patent is the same. The institution protects itself
- 7:491st and the public second. Speaking of protecting
- 7:53themselves, I'm still waiting to hear to find out about the
- 7:57outcome of those two serious incidents involving police in
- 8:01cans that are covered on on this podcast on the sloppy soap.
- 8:05Remember, one of them showed reckless, A reckless act where
- 8:09an innocent female bystander was shot.
- 8:13You know, police were just spraying bullets everywhere.
- 8:16They found bullets in cars that have been driving by in, in
- 8:20houses on in walls, on houses. A female standing there at the
- 8:24front door was shot. And the offender who they were
- 8:27trying to hit, he eventually got shot in the backside, I believe.
- 8:32And then the other one was the death of the 71 year old woman
- 8:35who was trying to cross the road and she was allowed to cross the
- 8:38road. It was a green light, 71 years
- 8:40old. The police made a turn that they
- 8:42shouldn't have made because they were looking to arrest someone
- 8:45who, you know, was just sitting there inside the road and they
- 8:47struck her. And yet from QPS silence,
- 8:52there's no updates. As far as in when I'm recording
- 8:55this, I can't find any updates. No transparency, no
- 8:59accountability. They always talk about
- 9:01transparency and accountability, yet nothing.
- 9:03This is exactly what I'm talking about.
- 9:05When police make catastrophic mistakes, the public gets
- 9:11silence. When police lie underoath, the
- 9:15public gets silence. When police kill innocent
- 9:18people, the public gets silence. When the institution's
- 9:23reputation is at stake, suddenly, suddenly they move
- 9:28quickly. Suddenly they act decisively.
- 9:31Suddenly they care. Remember the poor police officer
- 9:34that got shot? Was it Mariba?
- 9:39No. Maryborough down South.
- 9:43Very. I mean, great news that he's
- 9:45alive, that he that he's all well.
- 9:47But mate, they came out with an abundance of information.
- 9:50They told you the whole story. The whole story was out there.
- 9:53They had a plethora of information to share, to tell.
- 9:57Yeah, but when they've done, they've made a mistake, killed
- 10:01someone, shot innocent people. There's nothing to tell.
- 10:05Nothing. This is the slippery slope
- 10:08inside policing. Once truth becomes flexible,
- 10:12once integrity becomes negotiable, once accountability
- 10:17becomes selective, then corruption isn't an anomaly,
- 10:23it's inevitable. So The thing is, if one officer
- 10:28is willing to lie underoath, you can guarantee he is not the only
- 10:33one. He's just the one who got
- 10:36caught. Because lying underoath is never
- 10:39a first offence. It's the end result.
- 10:43Usually my opinion, it's the end result of a long chain of
- 10:48smaller compromises. Remember, Proverbs 2912 says if
- 10:55a ruler listens to lies, all his officials become wicked.
- 11:00This is how we are in Australia now.
- 11:02When leadership tolerates dishonesty, dishonesty spreads.
- 11:06When leadership rewards results instead of righteousness,
- 11:10corruption becomes normal. And that is what I think we are
- 11:15currently seeing. This AFP case isn't just one
- 11:19detective. That's what I'd be willing to
- 11:22bet. It's about.
- 11:23A culture that allowed this behaviour to grow.
- 11:32All this matters because when police lie, justice collapses.
- 11:38When police lie, innocent people suffer.
- 11:42When police lie when they're not really transparent, the public
- 11:49loses trust. When a tragedy happens, an
- 11:53innocent bystander is shot, or an innocent 71 year old female
- 11:57is killed by a police car, and yet nothing happens.
- 12:01Nothing's told that there's no, you know, no one answers for
- 12:07these things. The public loses trust.
- 12:09There's no transparency. When trust collapses, the entire
- 12:14system collapses and then these police institutions can only
- 12:19blame themselves. This is their institutions decay
- 12:23from the inside, not through dramatic scandals, but through
- 12:27quiet repeated compromises that eventually become normal.
- 12:32So unless policing leadership, I should say management because we
- 12:38don't have a lot of leadership within policing or government in
- 12:41Australia. So when policing management
- 12:45slash pretend leadership in this country confronts this head on.
- 12:51So unless they do, we're going to see more cases like this and
- 12:54not fewer. But hey, that's just my opinion.
- 12:58I'm still just Jay Fallon. And thanks for listening to the
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