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Behind the Scenes at the NFL Draft with Dan Hanzus · NFL Podcast Network Selects

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  Speaker 1: When I woke up this morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: We're on a Cincinnati it's my team, it's my quarterbay
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  Speaker 1: they are well. We thought they were about hello, you
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  Speaker 1: play to win the day. They want you to cook
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  Speaker 1: the dinner. At least they ought to let your shout
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  Speaker 1: for some of the grocery. And on the way up,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna buy a kneecap all you're getting me playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just here so I won't get fine. How could
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  Speaker 1: he not be a romantic about football? After? Okay, here
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  Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to the Bench with Benetta Podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: am joined by somebody I'm very excited about, somebody that
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to win over. I'm actually I'm actually on
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  Speaker 1: a friend audition this entire week, and it makes me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit nervous. I hope that I'm doing okay
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  Speaker 1: so far. Dan Hans has joins us from NFL Network.
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  Speaker 1: Around the NFL. This has been along to Power Rankings.
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  Speaker 1: I've filled in on that show before. This has been
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  Speaker 1: a long time coming. Thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. You should understand you
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  Speaker 1: you don't even know what you're up against. What does
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  Speaker 1: that even mean, because people that know me know that
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  Speaker 1: I have a very tight circle of people that I
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  Speaker 1: actually like to hang out with, and it's overly tight.
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  Speaker 1: It's like this guy needs to loosen up and open
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  Speaker 1: things up a little bit. That's the thing, and that
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  Speaker 1: is why I texted you Combine. Everyone had these We
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  Speaker 1: were just talking about dinner reservations. Everyone has these dinner reservations.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guys, are we hanging out? Everybody's booked,
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  Speaker 1: booked solid and I am alone basically at a subway
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  Speaker 1: eating dinner by myself all week at Indian I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm coming into Vegas, correct. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to hit people up and I'm gonna make plans. And
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  Speaker 1: I was messaging and I was like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I need to audition to get into this friend group
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  Speaker 1: because you guys, it's very tight knit. It's a little clickie.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine. You guys have known each other for a
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  Speaker 1: really long time. But I'm knocking out the door and
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  Speaker 1: I want in. So let me ask you this. If
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  Speaker 1: this is an audition, okay, no, go ahead. If this
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  Speaker 1: is an audition, I need some notes, yes, okay, What
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  Speaker 1: can I do? What can I change? Like what you know,
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  Speaker 1: give me, give me the rap sheet of like who
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  Speaker 1: which character do I need to become? Well, I would
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  Speaker 1: think that I don't want you to change, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's not yet. Um. I think there is an audition.
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  Speaker 1: We call it on the Around the NFL podcast. There's
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  Speaker 1: something called a and Graver knows this the grave digger. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you're free to use that ip on your show
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  Speaker 1: if you wish. I call him something else. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I need to divert away from what you guys
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  Speaker 1: are doing. We have our own relationship. That's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's called it's called a la ravil magnifico. And that's
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  Speaker 1: something that uh. That mean when someone says something to
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  Speaker 1: a group and some type of setting and then they
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  Speaker 1: reveal everything about themselves, usually in a negative way without
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  Speaker 1: even realizing. Okay, I'm and I think the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that I would say to you is don't do that. Huh. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's good to know. I need to be careful. At
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  Speaker 1: the same time, don't have anything nice. Listen. Even here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, here's the thing that might be intimidating rage
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  Speaker 1: is that. And by the way, I like you a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and I you have you're a prospect at the highest levels.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, uh, you're like Cavon Thibadeau today, Like there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot, there's a lot of work in here. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the Latavio Magnifico, uh you if you
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  Speaker 1: do mess up and remove yourself from Click consideration, you
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  Speaker 1: won't even know it. So I almost hate. It's like
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting killed off and it's like a shot from
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  Speaker 1: the back of the head. I don't even see it coming. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, though, this is dangerous. Okay, I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do Okay, You'll be fine. Think there's some post
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  Speaker 1: dinner drinks tonight that I think there's my time to shine.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, and I feel good about it. And honestly, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know the click. What is the clay?
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  Speaker 1: It's it's me Mark, Greg Connie, Ricky. Hollywood's in there,
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  Speaker 1: like Graver's knocking on the door. Yeah, your own producer. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it is something I could could we could hop
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  Speaker 1: over the line together. We could do that. Maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: only room for one tonight. It's going to be interesting Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe anything can happen. Speaking of Vegas, you just said
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  Speaker 1: you like Vegas. Are you're a Vegas guy? I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I am not a Vegas person at all. I'm
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  Speaker 1: already having sinus issues. I am not sleeping. I've swept
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  Speaker 1: through the night. I had two cocktails last night, and
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  Speaker 1: I felt like trash this morning. I was like, what,
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  Speaker 1: I had two drinks, but in Vegas two drinks translates
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  Speaker 1: to seven because the way that they're poured, like, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't work in my favor. None of it works
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  Speaker 1: in my favor. Why are you a Vegas person? Well,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things, because I do feel very good
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  Speaker 1: about you entering the click if you choose to join.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm pouring the drinks, the old zuser poor is
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  Speaker 1: a five second poor. That's just something you need to
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  Speaker 1: be aware. Oh heads up, Okay, that's not gonna roll
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  Speaker 1: with me, So all right, I just need to be
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  Speaker 1: equipped with water tonight. No, but uh no, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I've always I don't. I don't. I wouldn't consider myself
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  Speaker 1: a bro, but I have some huh bro qualities, like
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  Speaker 1: like what I like hanging out with my buddies and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, hey, let's all go together, get together
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  Speaker 1: and go to Vegas for the long weekend, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds cool. We're gonna go and we're gonna gamble
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  Speaker 1: and drink a lot and get loose and have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Like I do like to have fun, and I do.
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  Speaker 1: Vegas to me, and I think a lot of it is,
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  Speaker 1: uh goes back to your earliest experiences in the city.
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  Speaker 1: I remember going on a family trip where my uncle
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  Speaker 1: took me and my cousin was very close with and
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  Speaker 1: his fay. I went with them, and then we me
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  Speaker 1: and my cousin, we got we were under age, but
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  Speaker 1: we've had some fun, and then that sticks in your mind.
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  Speaker 1: And then the smell of this place. I love the
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  Speaker 1: smell of the casinos, Oh god it. And you know
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  Speaker 1: what else I like. I like the the the surface
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  Speaker 1: level of it because sometimes in general that's not what
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  Speaker 1: I'm about. But like I like that the draft and
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  Speaker 1: and Vegas are together because I feel like they're a
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  Speaker 1: perfect match. It's it's much more style. I'll been substance.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't ultimately mean much, but like, let's let's have
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  Speaker 1: some fun, but it could mean everything that's done right,
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  Speaker 1: and I do I do risk like coming off as
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  Speaker 1: a bros end. Yeah, Vegas, baby, I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: it though. It's fun. Huh do you pick up the
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  Speaker 1: cards they hand out in the streets? Um, not a
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  Speaker 1: card guy. Not a card guy. And that would have
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  Speaker 1: showed me a lot about you. So that was a
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  Speaker 1: good answer. Not going to repeat it, but yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: would have been one of those you have been like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so he's a slimy, cree hard guy. He's a card guy.
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  Speaker 1: Is what draft number? Is this for you? Covering? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? The draft is the one event that
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  Speaker 1: we've been a little bit kind of come in and
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  Speaker 1: out of. I've been with the company since twenty ten,
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  Speaker 1: which is insane. Um. I was at the Johnny Manzielle
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  Speaker 1: draft and a call to give you a little wow idea.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Manzelle got drafted by the Browns. Remember
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  Speaker 1: taking a video of Mark uh with my phone and
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  Speaker 1: I'm crying. He was so excited. Oh lord. And then
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  Speaker 1: behind us there was like a rush and it was
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  Speaker 1: Drake running up the steps to go hang out with
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  Speaker 1: Johnny manzell and party, which was a Drake. Yeah what wow,
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  Speaker 1: Tonty that my guy? Um, but like, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: so I've been probably a four or five dress, but
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  Speaker 1: this is the first one we've been to our podcast
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  Speaker 1: at n and probably five years um, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to be here. I just I think it's especially as
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  Speaker 1: a Jets fan, it's it's hope season, and it's sorry,
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  Speaker 1: it's hope season. It's like everyone has something to look
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  Speaker 1: forward to. I think it's always been the most optimistic
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  Speaker 1: event on the NFL calendar, and that's why I kind
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  Speaker 1: of like it, even though I don't really know the
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  Speaker 1: college until i'd learned about the prospects over the ramp up.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's fun. It's kind of cool. Like even
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  Speaker 1: just covering the combine, I'd never done that and this
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  Speaker 1: is my first draft. There is like this kind of
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  Speaker 1: There was a prospect on the plane and Mina comes
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  Speaker 1: was on my plane and she that we were all
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  Speaker 1: kind of like getting up to leave, and he popped
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  Speaker 1: up on a bunch of TVs and she was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: look at the TV right now, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: such a cool moment. Like even at the combine, like
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  Speaker 1: there's just this air of like, oh, excitement, anything can happen.
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  Speaker 1: These guys are about to have their lives changed. They're
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  Speaker 1: about a millionaires. Like that's that is like uh, and
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  Speaker 1: you'll like this one. Justin h like two thousand whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It was the draft that he was in. There was
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  Speaker 1: a giant human being sitting in front of me and coach,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, this, dude's giant. And again I
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  Speaker 1: learned about these players more when they get to the pros.
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  Speaker 1: It was Derek Henry, Derrick Henry sitting in coach probably
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  Speaker 1: literally the last time ever sat in coach his entire life.
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  Speaker 1: Witnessed it. I saw it. I was there. I was
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  Speaker 1: sitting behind him, kicking him, getting mad at him from
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  Speaker 1: reclining his seat. No, it was it's it's cool, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's fun. And again the optimism of it all. Every
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  Speaker 1: guy thirty two first round picks like twenty are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be bus something like that, but not not this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: like right now, it's thirty two for thirty two, it
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  Speaker 1: is kind of cool. Like our boss Charlie keeps on saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: I know that this maybe not the shiniest draft class,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you don't have like a quarterback going
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  Speaker 1: first overall, but like it, as we look out on
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  Speaker 1: these guys, there are hall of famers here and we
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  Speaker 1: don't know who is gonna be yet, but there's just
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  Speaker 1: a lot of excitement. Let me ask you this. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of excitement, we're in Vegas. We're sitting pool side right
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  Speaker 1: now with our mocktails. We are, And so Colleen and
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  Speaker 1: I go out for a beverage last night. Connie Fox, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Connie yeah. And somebody actually bought our drinks at the bar.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that and we were like, we still you
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  Speaker 1: hat it? Maybe, but somebody approached us, a man, an
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  Speaker 1: elderly gentleman by any chance. He asked, okay, tell me
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  Speaker 1: if you would do this. He asked Colleen, Hey, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you two hundred dollars if you let me see
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  Speaker 1: your license, oh christ, And we actually thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, whoa wall wall? Why? Why do you
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  Speaker 1: want to look at it? And she was just like,
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  Speaker 1: I actually just have a po box on there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have my undress. And we were like, do we
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  Speaker 1: do it? What does this mean? Like? What's he looking for?
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe they had a bet on how old
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  Speaker 1: she was. Either way, it's not good, but would you
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  Speaker 1: have said yes for two hundred dollars to you? I
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  Speaker 1: can't put a lovely lady and somebody came up to
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  Speaker 1: you and said Hey, I'll give you two hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas for where drinks are a million, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And it would depend where I was in my life
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  Speaker 1: and out family. I needed two hundred dollars. I shoot
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  Speaker 1: him away, like physically ship I know, I think, I
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  Speaker 1: think that sounds like a potential serial killer. So I
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  Speaker 1: think the two hundred dollars is nice. Yeah, it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: did you are you a better call? Soltan? I'm sure okay.
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  Speaker 1: Last season there was a spoiler alert he has a
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  Speaker 1: chance to make and grand to go into the desert
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  Speaker 1: and pick up like seven million in bail money. Things
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  Speaker 1: go sideways like that, the greed will get in the
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  Speaker 1: way of like clinical thinking. You have to the shoe
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  Speaker 1: away was the move, Yeah, and that's we did. There
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  Speaker 1: was a moment where he came up to us and said,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you two hundred dollars if you let me
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  Speaker 1: just look at your idea really quick. And there was
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  Speaker 1: a pause, but there wasn't like what the hell are you?
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  Speaker 1: Like go away, because that's like it doesn't matter where
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  Speaker 1: you are in your life, Like two hundred bucks will
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: always give you a quick pause and then you have
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  Speaker 1: a chance to reset some things. I was like, two
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars is you know, a nice meal, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't need that. We're getting our meals expense, thank you
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  Speaker 1: NFL network. I was like, this is not worth it.
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  Speaker 1: But my favorite part about it was Connie was like,
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I do have a po box on there. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even my address. She was really, I feel bad. I
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  Speaker 1: said no to her. I said no for her. I
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  Speaker 1: took the two a couple of drinks in Uh no, No,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't getting after it. We had just had. Because
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  Speaker 1: Connie's very she's very fierce in guarding her privacy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: surprised she even, like so many people came up to
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  Speaker 1: Connie Fox and said, oh my god, you're Colleen Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: We I love you so much. Here's my theory, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, and I'm just trying to think, like in
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  Speaker 1: terms of mankind that they were. Him and his buddy
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  Speaker 1: were like, that's Colleen Wild, I'm telling you, and he's like, nah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're wrong, You're wrong, right, and that it was like
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  Speaker 1: the only way to prove it. They're probably trying to
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: look at her and they probably didn't think like, hey,
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: are you calling it sounds like something like a literal
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  Speaker 1: serial killer instead of just asking somebody what their name is.
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  Speaker 1: Can I take a look at your license? Please? Are
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  Speaker 1: you Colleen? Can I get a self? May I see
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  Speaker 1: your personal identification? Were her personal photographer? That's great? You
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: know what, colleague, you know you're not. But I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that you were there to help Colleen because if she
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  Speaker 1: did do it, whether she was of sound mind or
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: not at that point in the night, um, she would
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: have woke up being completely annoyed and paranoid about it. So,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: by the way, that's a reversal out of you, my nificll.
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  Speaker 1: That's something that we're taking into account. That's a bonus.
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  Speaker 1: That's a ten point bonus. Okay, okay, this is very exciting.
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  Speaker 1: This is very exciting. I'm a good friend. I'm a
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: good friend. That's a huge friend. Okay, let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this. We've obviously got this brand new baby of
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: a podcast and we're chugging along and it's so much fun.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: You have this, you have the opposite, you have a
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: behemoth of a podcast. Soup. I have never gone on
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: a podcast. I've never gone on someone's podcast before, and
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: just my Twitter exploded, like you guys have so many
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: amazing loyal fans that love you guys so much. How
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: did you find this? What? Like so many people have podcasts.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: I felt so silly when I announced, like, oh and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: also I have a podcast, I too, I too, am
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: joining the game, Like, great, we need another podcast? But
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: how do you make it work? There's literally thousands? Is
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: it just like getting was it getting in early? How
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: did you get you guys? Just certain that certainly was
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: a big factor. Not that podcasts in twenty twelve or
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen weren't prevalent, because they were, But now it
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: is such it's so much harder to cut through the noise. Yeah,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: you need to be super talented, which you are, rage
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: so I think you can. But I'm saying like that
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: that is such a challenge to do it. Like when
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: we started at n there wasn't really and I could
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure we're right.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: There wasn't anybody that on Sunday Night was recapping every
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: game that happened. Yeah, like, and that was something we did,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: and now most podcasts do it that cover the NFL scene,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: But back then it was like the lightbulb hadn't gone
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: off yet. And this is before Now podcasts are now
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: incredibly financially valuable if you could build a successful one
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So yeah, the timing matters, but
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: also like for us, the chemistry was the big thing,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and that was all luck. I mean, Mark and I
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: started working at the company within six weeks of each
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: other as part time copy editors at NFL dot com,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: and we became fast friends. And then that quickly evolved
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: into like, all right, how do we, you know, get
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: get on Mike and Dave Damashek who's a friend of
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: mine and also somebody I've always looked up to in
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: the business, like gave us our first opportunity to be
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: on Mike on the show and then gave us a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: ten minute spinoff. But then the other half of it
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: is Mark and I had natural chemistry and had the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: ambition to do it. Yeah, Greg comes over from Pro
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Football Talk, Chris Westling god rest his soul comes over
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: from Rhoda World where he worked with Greg, and then
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: it just all connected. So that was just like, that
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: is luck, that's kismet, that's just something else in the air.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of like timing matters and it's big,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: But for us, it was just like, wow, like there
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was just a chance that we had and we put
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: in the work. Obviously that matters too, but I think
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: it's mostly luck. I think everything happens for a reason.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You guys were at the right place at the right time,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: and you all just fell in love with each other,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and and we America have fallen in love all of you,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: not everyone. Okay, it's time for the bench bachelorette. As
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I am kind of trying to find a
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: new love in my life. And um, you mentioned that
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: you're hopeful as a Jets fan, and I took that
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: seriously when you said that, and I just wanted you
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to you know, they're still on the table, the Jets,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and I just I just wanted you more one more
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: bit of advice in the podcast game. Let's be honest
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: with the audience. You're very dismissive. You're very dismissive of
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: my idea about before we started. I was like, I
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: want to pitch you on the Jets, and she was like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: screw you don't even yeah no, but I I feel
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: like I have a there's a chance here for me
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to sell you on the Jets. I feel confident I'm
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: listening here we go. All right, so you're a Canadian? Yeah, nice,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: excited about that album? Um no, I think what drew
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you to the Browns? Let's start there. Okay, what drew
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: me to the Browns? For the thing? Yeah, what drew
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: mey to the Browns was, Um, I was new to football.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I did not grow up watching football. I grew up
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: watching hockey in Canada, Like it just was not something
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that was on in my household. And then I got
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: hired to a show and I wanted to find a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: team to root for because I just felt like it
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: was gonna help me understand the game more. And the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Browns were on hard Knocks and they were a mess.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And I like mess, I like quirky, I like weird.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I am drawn to the weirdos in the room because
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I am usually the weirdo in the room, and that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: why I loved them. They had lost forever and they
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: had a beer fridge that needed to be unlocked. Baker
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: came in. Um had such a big and bright personality,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, these guys are lovable losers,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: That's what. But don't try and say I'm not saying
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: anything yet. Okay, Well, That's why I love the Browns.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I will say, with the exception of the U the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: beer cooler Needing to be Unlocked, which was a a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: light beer ad promotion, a beautiful marketing scheme. It was great.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But let's let's not like tie that directly to the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: organization and what makes them alluring. The Jets check all
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of those boxes, and then on top of that, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: on top of that, on top of that, their little brother,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the Giants, will always be the Tiffany team in that town.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: We always are laughed at and mocked. And I would say,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I would tell you if we were doing this five
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: years ago, Rache, I would never ever say, come join us.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: You're full of it. But I think no, Justin knows
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I'm buying in on this new regime. I think the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Jets have a few years. It's a couple of years
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: away from being a real team, but I think they're
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: on a track that if just like two or three
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: things click in the next twelve months, they are a team.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you're looking to be a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: front runner, but there if you if you pick the Jets,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: If this exercise ends with you picking the Jets, everyone
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that is invested in it and invested in you will
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: go wow, Okay, she's in. But they would say that
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: about everybody pick the Broncos like, oh, Chargers, Oh, justin
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Herbert still on the chopping block. I'm just saying, only
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the Chargers owner is very invested in me becoming a fan. Okay,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: where's your ownership? Well, I don't want to talk about
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: my ownership so much, but I say, there's only so
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: much we could say here, but don't. Let's not dig
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: too deep in general, too high up the chain. That's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: my pitch. My pitches is that they are They are
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: lovable losers. They are a meimable, They are a laughing
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: stock in a lot of ways. But they also have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: one of the great figures in the history of the league,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and Joe Namath. They have a fan base that is
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: downtrotten and beaten down, but ever optimistic but also pessimistic.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I think there is I think there's something there for
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a Banetta. If a Banetta was drawn to the Browns,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm Jets. I am not. I'm gonna be honest with you,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Jets were probably on the chopping block within the next
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: few weeks. I'm gonna be honest with you right now.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You bought them sometime, Okay, It's just I'm not here
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to win you over completely. I just want you to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: like if, if, if you're thinking about them in a
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: slightly different way. And I actually feel guilty because I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: have two young sons, a seven year old and a
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: five year old, and I've been so disillusioned as a
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: fan because I just celebrated my forty second birthday. Wow,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: something I caught in your throat there, you were just
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: trying to get my mortality. Yeah, I just I all
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I want. I love my dad, Keith Hanss, who was
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a Joe Namath guy fan, grew up in the Bronx
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and was a Yankee fan, but didn't didn't connect with
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the Giants who also played Yankee Stadium back then. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: then Joe Namath showed up with his style and his
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: confidence and change the change of the sport forever. And
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: now here I am at my age and my father
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: entering old age, and we've still never had a Super
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Bowl together, and that eats at me and I that's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: why I'm giving my sons as any father should. If
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you're listening, by the way, don't tell them who to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: root for like, I'm leaving it open ended, and what
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: my youngest son is leaning towards the Chargers because we're
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: here in LA and my older son is more a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Jets guy, and I'm like, Okay, if you want to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: do that, that's for you. So I can't tell anybody
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: what to do, because I understand being a Jets fan
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: has been very hard for me. But the payoff, if
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it ever happens, Rachel, I get it. If it ever happens,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I get it. You're getting in on the ground floor
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and all a lot of the excavation is complete, so
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: nobody will say you're you're a front runner. People won't
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: realize that we've been already down there by the core
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of the earth. Now we're right beneath the surface. Potentially
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that's it. Listen, like I said, you yourself some time,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I am going to really think about this, but I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: think that this is the perfect segue. We are in Vegas,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of course for the draft, which we've not spoken Brohl,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: we've not really spoken about. But that's fine. That's not
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: what this podcast does. But I thought we would play
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a fun little game. Okay, Um, you know we're not
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: gambling here. We're here on work. We're not I would
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: love to, but we're not gambling. We are not allowed.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: We're on a work chat. But I thought that there
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was there's there's a fun little game that we could
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: play right now that um, you know, as much as
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I would love to give you, Well, what do you say?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Should we kick off two teams? One of his choice? Okay, okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I am handing you the keys to kick off a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: team on this show yourself your own choice, and then
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: we are going to do a Russian roulette because we're
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: not allowed to gamble. We're gonna do a roulette where
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: we choose a number and that's going to kick off
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a team. So who would you be so upset if
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I do make it into the friend group? Okay, um,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: who would you be so upset to see me cheer for? You?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Choose a team, will tell you if they're still alive.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: So the Patriots are out. Good job cowboys. Oh well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys load up the chamber with a single round
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and let's stand that. Okay, I am open to this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are out of the league. You know, I'm trying
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to help you, Rachel, because if you if this exercise
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: ever ended with you being like sending out all social
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: media bulletins. I'm a Cowboys fan. Now you'd get that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: would destroyed and points for you in the friendship category
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: because you're right. Okay, so Cowboys, I'm so sorry Dallas Cowboys.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, mister Jones, we've met a few times. It
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was absolutely terrifying every single time we did. I'm so sorry.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: We are going to be letting go of the Cowboys
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on the bench Bachelorette, they're out. Oh you just made
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that decision. I thought that for some reason, I was
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: expecting a gun to be involved reality one out of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: six chance, but the actually that would work A pool
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sidevoted them off the island, You voted them off the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Jets thing would be great, but I would understand if
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you went a different direction. But I actually do feel
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like I did something good today by helping you. There,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you did, But hold on, We're not done. Okay, we
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: need to do a Russian Roulette style ki cough. Do
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know what Russian roulette is? I do somebody gets
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: passes away. Maybe if if the wrong triggers the movie?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: What's the film? What's the famous film with the Russian
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Roulette scene? I know you're talking about, well he's so young.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, thank you, thank you. Just what's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the movie All Day Afternoon? Never seen it? Maybe? Okay? Okay,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: we're playing roulette. We were playing bench bachelor at Roulette. Okay,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I need you to give me a number between one
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and what one and twenty seven? Seven? Say number one
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: between twenty seven and this is going to whatever you choose.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite numbers. Twenty three, so that's easy. Twenty three, okay, justin,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: who is number twenty three? Somebody is about to get
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: kicked off bench? No, not so lucky? All right? Whatever?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Would you be mad if it was the Jets, It's not.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That would be the Jets. Luck. I would go on
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that at Passion play and they'd be gone. Say goodbye
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons. With that, I'm okay with that.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. That's a good one. I'm okay
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: with that. One of my very good friends, Sara, is
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a massive Falcons fan. That's Chris Brockman's exactly. I hear
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the worst things. Okay, so much pain, Thank you, thank you,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: thank you. Two quick clarifications. One, any Cowboys fans that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: are gonna listen to this and be mad at me.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Just no, it's not personal. It's just you guys don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: need more bandwagon fans jumping on. No, and that's exactly right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I've been getting out of the bandwagons early. Woman over there,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: somebody a woman by the pool. Cowboys and cowboy fans,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: ma'am for the Falcon oh commanders, ma'am, oh boy. All right,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: well we'll finish that conversation later. No, but um wait,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: hang on, let me let can recalibrate everything in my mind.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Um No, the Falcons fans I have so much respect for.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I was at twenty eight three Super Bowls and that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was obviously I have so much empathy for that fan base.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, so there's there's a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Falcons fan out there that would pitch them the way
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I just pitched the Jets. Yeah, but I just I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: want you to be happy. I want you to find, like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: if you don't pick the Jets, find that that team
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that is right beneath the surface. Falcons they have to excavate.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: They're rebuilding to figure some stuff. They're five years away potentially. Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: um okay, well, Cowboys, Falcons. I'm so sorry, But you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: are no longer on bench rip. I kind of nailed
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: this for you. I really helped you. I think I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: really think you did. Those are two teams that I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: absolutely would have gotten rid of. And it's getting We're
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: getting close, Like the weeks are going by very quickly,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and I will have a new love of my life
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: sooner or rather than later. How serious are you about this?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Honestly though? About the Jets, No, about this whole stick.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Stop trying to sell me on the Honestly, it's it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit tough because I feel like it was
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a really fun idea first. I'm gonna be honest with you,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: it was really fun idea at first, and then I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: went into like a little bit of a grieving period
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: about the Browns. And I'm sure Mark is dealing with
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Like I really really enjoyed being a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Browns fan. And I'm like going through I'm like doing
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: my laundry, and I'm like, my boyfriend had just gotten
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: back from Cleveland, like literally the week before the thing
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was announced, and he got me a brand new sweater,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: like a brown sweater. Going through my wardrobe, I have
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: so many Browns things that I've acquired over the last
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: few years. It just sucks. But it just makes me sad.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It just really bumps. And here's the thing with Mark,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and Mark's one of my closest friends, and as passionate
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: as I am about the Jets, he's somehow more passionate
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: about the Browns. I have my doubts that he's actually
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: able to divorce himself from the team, because once you're in,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you're in and there's no getting out. Your circumstances are different.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's why it's believable to me that you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: might be able to break free and reboot, reboot. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if if your ultimate fan journey has
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: got to be more organic, and you know what, maybe
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: maybe there will be some organicness that happens on this journey,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Like maybe I maybe, guys, what a plot twist if
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I came to the end and I was one of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: those bachelors that said I'm not ready. Oh that move, Wow,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that season finale would garner so many views. I feel
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like anything could happen this weekend at the draft where
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you suddenly you like one of the prospects that can
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: shake by the team, or during hard knocks, the Lions
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: could totally win you over because that's happened to you
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: before or you go. A lot of events still have
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to lay out. Speaking of we really have not talked
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: about the draft. Is is is there anything I'm not asking
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the most generic draft question we don't have to talk about.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: All I could say is that this reminds me of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen draft, where there was no premium quarterbacks
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: out there, so that just made everything so much more unpredictable.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: So while so while it's not as sexy per se
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of like, oh, who's this absolute stud future
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer we know this or even Trevor Lawrence
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: last year, some of the bloom was off the roads.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it should be, but like it was like, whoa,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars just got somebody Zach Wilson on the Jets. Yeah,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: who is despite some rocky rookie year business, is still
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a highly interesting, intriguing second year player. The fact that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: we don't have those type of players, but you know
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: we do have is all of the mock drafters are
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: pooping their pants rage. There's gonna be so unpredictable. We
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: have no idea how this is going to play out.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So you get to enjoy that side of thing. Yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be some pretty crazy moves happening.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Um let me ask you this. We were talking about
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: hugs earlier, like commissioner hugs, and how there have just
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: been so many messy ones, just so many. Oh, like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: you can't even watch them. I was like looking at
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: highlight reels and I was like, this is too painful.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: What would be your go to? Would you just do
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in like a quick love you know what I would
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: do bye bye? Because I would say I would want
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to like Mac Jones last year when he did his
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: like Vince McMahon walk on the stage and people were like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: oh that guy, he stands out. You want to do
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: something that stands out. What if you went like hard
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and firm with a dad handshake, just going hard, no doubt,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: just just a handshake, no contact, firm grip bang bang bang,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: thank you? That is a bold move? Or you well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this was this a little strong, But you can like
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: salute a military style. You just collect, like do something memorable.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Just don't be basic. I would say, okay, don't be basic. Okay.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: We were trying to do it like a guide for
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: these draft prospects on how to get out of this
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: without becoming viral. Um, yeah, but somebody, I feel like
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys want to be viral. You
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: want to stand viral for the wrong race if you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: don't want to go in for a hug and then
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: almost like kiss the commissioner on the lips, which has
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: almost happened before that's happened. Yeah, thank you so much
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: for joining us. Yeah, we are both well. I will
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: speak for sweating. Yeah, we have really enjoyed these mocktails.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the bench. We've been at a podcast.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Buy Cowboys and Goodbye Falcons. I feel good about it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The Falcons fans, you know where I'm at. You know
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: where my heart is at. Cowboys fans, One less bandwagon Jump.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You'll be You'll survive, You'll be fine, all right. Tune
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: in next week. We got a fresh episode post Vegas.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That one should be interesting. Catal