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Veterans, Trucks & Tequila: From Helicopters to Savage Pest Warfare · The Warriors & Watchmen Podcast

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  Welcome back to another episode of Warriors and Watchmen. Wow!
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  Sorry, please continue. You got it right.
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  Hey, before we get started, I want to talk about a couple of charities that
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  hosts this podcast. One is the CJ3 Foundation, of which my guest,
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  Roger Singh, is a part of. Oh, I'm a guest now. Okay.
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  Well, I mean, you're also my senior advisor for the state of Virginia,
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  so thank you for that. The other charity and nonprofit I want to talk about
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  is No Boundaries as well.
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  Roger, we initially didn't know who they were, but they're out there doing phenomenal
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  work, more in the Central America versus us over here on the East Coast.
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  But No Boundaries is a phenomenal charity that is also one of the co-hosts of this podcast.
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  Absolutely. Let me give a shout out to Raven Tech.
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  Appreciate their support in presenting this and putting this on.
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  And also negative bounce productions of which is the voice in the sky.
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  I mean, they do produce this show. It's fantastic. I mean, he's all right. He's all right.
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  For a Marine, I guess. I eat crayons. Let's just not lie about it. Here we go.
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  So, Roger, I got something to talk about real quick. Oh, are you going to try
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  to kick this out before I do? No, no, I'm jumping into this.
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  So, I was on vacation this week or this weekend. I needed a break from the D.C.
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  Area, as I'm sure everybody would understand. You need to get out of this area
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  once in a while, and it seemed like a good weekend for most of us,
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  being an Easter weekend and all that.
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  I grew up in Tidewater in Virginia Beach, Norfolk area, so decided to go back there for the weekend.
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  It was a great break, but I didn't plan it very well because what I'm always
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  told is you should put at least a day after your vacations, and I failed to
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  do that, and I had to go to work this morning.
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  Not only did I not do that, but you and I and our significant others had planned
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  to go to our annual baseball game, correct?
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  Yes, we did. Okay, stop. No, no, no, stop.
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  I'm not going to let you run with it yet. He's such a dick. So I'm a St.
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  Louis Cardinals fan, Roger.
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  I'm a Nationals fan. Okay. And so, you know, here is the cool thing.
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  Since this is such a transient area, I will say every year I do enjoy going
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  to a Nationals game because it doesn't matter what you wear.
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  You're pretty accepted there. You know, you don't get harassed like you do in some of the others.
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  I don't know if I'd go to Baltimore in my St. Louis jersey. That might not work
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  out so well for me. Oh, the worst sucks.
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  So we go every year. Our families try to do a once a year trip too.
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  So we have this deal. And for some reason this year you tried to break this
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  deal. Oh, he's trying to preempt what I'm going to call him out on here.
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  Hold on. I don't know if I like this.
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  There's no deal. Bro, every year it's a deal.
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  So I buy the tickets. I'm so generous to this group that I buy the tickets. And hold on.
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  What's significant about these tickets? I am 100% disabled with a service dog.
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  All right, you can go here on this one.
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  So at the end of the day, we get special handicap seating, right?
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  Yes, we do. Handicap seating because of my dog, which means they're not attached,
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  and you and I actually fit in these seats, unlike general seating. Correct.
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  Wait, wait, wait. Whose fault is that? That we're handicapped?
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  No, you don't fit in the seats.
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  Food. Food in general is at fault for this. Because we're in the gym so much.
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  Because you're fucking jacked. But that's P-H-A-T, pretty hot and tempting. I'm just saying.
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  So anyway, we call them the handyman seats, right? We love these seats.
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  They're great. And what's right behind us in those seats?
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  Oh, the bar. Oh, the bar is right behind it. You don't have to go anywhere.
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  You literally turn around. It's right there. You get to know them real well. So phenomenal seats.
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  Compliments of me and my status. Although nobody ever questions your handicap
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  status when you're in there. Why is that?
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  Because they think you're a window licker. No, they think you're a window licker.
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  They think you're mentally. They might think I'm mentally unstable and I felt
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  bad yesterday because you made the comment out loud.
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  And there was an actual physically handicapped person sitting two seats down for me.
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  As he's like why don't they question you i'm
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  like oh because i'm fat that's why i don't i
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  don't know why so anyway we get these great seats i
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  provide these great seats oh my god he's preempting what i'm gonna call so then
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  roger has one job then since i got the tickets his job is to get parking this
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  is my part this is but your part's bs your job is to get parking which you do
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  a phenomenal job, you pay extra money for good.
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  We get quality parking spots. How far do we have to walk?
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  Bro, I mean, you could spit on the stadium from where we're at,
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  right? We almost peed last night because with traffic, our bladders were hurting.
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  But at the end of the day, what goes with parking, Roger?
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  What part should be your job that goes with parking that's been the status quo?
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  So.
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  Is so old, he cannot drive at night anymore. Is that what that is?
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  He just can't visibly see the road in the evening because of his age.
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  Guy in the sky. Eric, you're 50, dude. Yes, I am. Pull yourself together.
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  I'll make a 50 look good. Guy in the sky, sir.
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  Let me tell you. So I just drove back. I just said, I just drove back from Virginia Beach.
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  Should it be incumbent on me, the guy that bought the good seats to have to
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  drive in. To me, that sounds like it goes with parking.
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  I mean, driving and parking are different. What? Yes, thank you, guy.
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  Look, you park after you drive.
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  Bro, bro, here's what I'm saying.
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  We decided to meet at the bar at Spank and Shenanigans, which obviously we're
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  there way too often anyway.
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  We decided to meet there. We're going to get a bite to eat before we go.
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  I just got into town. We meet there.
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  And this dude goes, why'd you bring that? I thought you were driving.
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  This was a conversation that was had prior. No, it wasn't. This was in your mind.
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  So this is where Eric's memory fades him as well. His age and his driving at
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  night apparently is a challenge.
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  I was like, all right, you're driving this time. And he goes,
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  all right, I will defend you to a point.
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  He did not say, okay, cool. He went, whatever, is what he said to me.
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  But, and I looked at Jen, and Jen actually said this to me yesterday.
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  I did bring a car that I could carry everybody in, including the dog.
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  I just hadn't cleaned out the back yet.
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  So I knew he was going to turn it on me. And Jen looked at me and goes,
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  damn it. You're right. He did.
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  He brings his F-350 that can't fit into anything, anywhere decent.
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  No, you can't fit that anywhere, man.
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  You can't fit it anywhere, do you see? And he goes, oh. And I looked at Michelle,
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  and I go, Michelle, his significant other. And I go, what car did he bring today? She goes, the truck.
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  I'm like, that motherfucker. Mind you, this is an F-350 on 40s. Oh, my Lord.
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  That thing couldn't fit anywhere. I do want to just say this before you introduce your guest.
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  There is a driver's license and no parking license.
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  So take that however you will. Oh, Guy, you are now top of my list at this point
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  because, like I said, Eric apparently needs a driver his age. Hold on.
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  All right. New challenge then. Guy, Roger's got parking. I'll buy the tickets.
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  I guess you're driving next year. Screw you.
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  You got it. You got it. You have to make that known, damn it. I did. I didn't know.
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  I thought it did. What I've learned. Roger, you're doing the driving and the parking. Hold on.
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  What I've learned with Roger as my senior advisor, I love this guy,
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  but if it's not on the calendar, and even still, I'm not quite sure.
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  Which, by the way, I thought. Oh, my God. Okay. Early on, yes, I completely agree.
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  There's a two-month learning gap here where it takes me a little while.
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  Two months. Two months. No wonder you're in the special seats at the stadium.
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  That's what I should have said. It's because it takes me a little while to learn.
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  All I got to say is this asshole...
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  On the way to and from, as we're running into traffic, he goes,
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  I'm glad I'm not driving. That's true. Every time.
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  And I'm like, and Jen's jumping on board, his fucking sister,
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  my spouse, my significant other.
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  Yeah, Roger, I'm glad he's not driving. Oh my God. Hold on. She's not really
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  my sister. She's my sister from another missing. Okay.
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  I was just going to say, wait a minute. Wait a minute. There's no relation in that.
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  We'll get a little racist here. It's quite because it's really in this relationship
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  because of significant others.
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  There's two brown ones and two white ones. You do the math, but that's my sister
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  from another mister. So I'm just sorry. All right.
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  I'll dig that. I'll dig that. Anyway, I'm glad we cleared that up.
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  You're wrong. He hijacked what I was going to call him out on because I told
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  him I was doing it today, and he hijacked it. But it's fine because Guy's on my side.
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  So you've lost in the sense of what we're doing here. No, I did. No, I did. I'm a winner.
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  I'm a winner. So real quick. Hey, we're going to circle back on that.
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  I'm in. Real quick to Guy in the Sky, I got a question for you.
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  So, hey, sir, you just got back from vacation.
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  How did your vacation go? It was amazing. Yeah. It wasn't a vacation. It was a retirement.
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  It was an honor to be there. That's awesome. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on.
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  That's what you say when it's a forced, I have to go to this thing because I don't want to be here.
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  Mandatory fun, sir. That was not a, it was an honor. An honor to be there is
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  like when you lose the Oscar.
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  It's an honor to be nominated with these people. No one really is saying this.
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  What do you mean by you people?
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  Let me just say this We wouldn't have Traveled to Poland If we didn't want to
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  be there For the person That was retired Oh that's good,
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  That's very politically Correct of you I like it No it's serious I'm serious
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  I want to give you I love those people I met I met Irish Owen And like,
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  I love that dude now. I love his wife now. Am I supposed to know who that is?
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  Irish Owen retired in Poland?
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  No, he was from Ireland, but he was in Poland. Makes sense to me.
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  So you brought up something. You are a tequila drinker. Poland is not tequila country.
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  I had to drink Polish vodka, and I loved it. Are you converted?
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  I won't convert, but I did bring some bottles home, and it was amazing. It was fucking amazing.
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  Me and Roger like vodka. It's definitely better than what Eric got from the
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  Ukraine. I'm just saying I don't remember the rest of that night.
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  It wasn't that it was bad. It was just really strong and left both of us almost blind.
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  It was rubbing alcohol and it did leave us blind. It did. I don't recall the night.
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  This Polish vodka is, it's buffalo grass vodka. It's made from wheat.
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  Made from wheat, not potatoes. Okay. And it is the smoothest vodka I've ever
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  had. like I can't even believe but this is coming from a tequila drinker.
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  And tequila's fucking smooth, dude. I mean, I used to be a vodka drinker,
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  so I'd have to try it to see what you're talking about because potato vodka's
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  fine. I also like rice vodka, so there's... The wheat vodka, dude.
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  I'm going to bring what we have left of... We need to try one. I need a snore.
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  It's really good. It's really good. All right. Hey, so I hate you two,
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  and you're always piling up and ganging up on me, so I'm going to bring in a
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  little... We are the champions. I'm going to bring someone else.
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  Bring your army buddy in.
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  Bring them in. Bring in reinforcements. I've got a battle buddy here. Go Army.
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  And so I want to introduce this guy. So, one, he's a personal friend.
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  He's been around for a while supporting us at the CJ3 Foundation. Just a phenomenal dude.
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  Anthony Pensabine. No, I'm not going to spell that. But Anthony is the owner of Savage Pest Warfare.
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  And as stated, he's an Army veteran.
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  This dude and his family are phenomenal. His family is much better than he is. His wife is awesome.
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  Dude's got a passel of kids and a passel of
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  dogs too but got a huge heart loves family
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  loves god loves guns loves this
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  country so anthony pence being welcome to
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  the podcast welcome thank you i'm here so hey
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  you decked out in your garb is this regular wear what is
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  this yeah this is regular uniform here there you go so
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  what made you decide on this because obviously you know
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  every time i see that dude i think grave digger those are
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  my grave different colors that's the
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  countryside of me but no it stands out and people seem to
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  be real familiar with it so how do you decide on that honestly just
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  started with whatever i could get closest to the army combat uniform
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  we have changed the shirts though because not everybody
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  that works for me was in the army and they're not uh they don't like the long
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  sleeves hold on can i can i pull a funny because i know a little background
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  on this yeah not everybody fits army either yeah yeah you found that out too
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  yeah absolutely i'm finding that out uh on a weekly basis actually but sarge these don't fit me.
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  Hey, have you seen my senior advisor? I know, I know the feeling.
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  Every time I got to get special shirts and stuff made, cause big sexy over here.
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  Listen, some of us played football. Some of us went military and I appreciate
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  everything you guys did for, for this country.
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  So I will just say I'm fat because I was good at hitting people in a line. That's all I was good at.
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  I could, I mean, I did prestige one time and, uh, I almost signed up. I almost signed up.
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  It's fine. Eric's two favorite things that anybody tells him.
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  Hey, brother, tell me about home, brother. Who do you have? I'm trying to forget,
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  right? No, you don't get it.
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  Don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, that's because he just got done on a week vacation.
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  Yeah, we just spent a whole week, a little over eight days in an RV with everybody,
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  minus the dogs. Wait, wait, how many people are we talking about?
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  I lost count of the children. It's just really me and my wife and then whichever
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  ones are orbiting around us. Might have picked up a few extra.
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  Children are the worst so they don't shower. Whoever was on the side of the
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  road at the time that was under a certain age was in his RV.
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  Where'd you guys go? We went to Pensacola.
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  Okay. Pensacola Beach. That's a long RV trip, dude. It was. Bro,
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  this is the dad that thinks it's always a good idea.
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  Like, he's like, oh, I got this great idea. Let's pack up the kids in.
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  And then he comes back and goes, I'm ready to go back to work.
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  But it's always a good idea to get an RV on the way down. It is not on the way home.
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  That is true. But, you know, I do have three kids, a guy in the sky ass.
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  So it was me, the wife, Christy, and my three kids, AJ, Victoria, and Roman.
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  We didn't bring any dogs with us. That was to save my sanity.
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  Hold on, hold on. One of his dogs is a horse. That's why. Absolutely, yeah.
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  It's a cane Corso, right? Yeah, he's 201 pounds. Oh my God.
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  It's half of you, Roger. That's a big fucking dog, man. He makes Eric look little.
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  I hate you, Eric, but that's a valid statement.
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  He makes Roger look little. I know, but it's a cool dog. That's like one of Roger's legs.
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  Hey God, but not only does he have the cane Corso, but then they have a love
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  for Frenchies. So he's got this really big text. Yep.
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  Oh, which they're awesome. I love Anthony's Frenchies. Anthony, I have a pug.
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  Nice. I have to walk my pug in our neighborhood. In high heels. Oh my goodness. Yeah.
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  Like everyone's looking at me like, okay. Every time. What the hell, man.
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  Anytime someone mentions that they're a big guy with a little dog,
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  I picture Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies pulling the fucking little dog across the street.
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  And I just see, come on, God damn it. Let's go. Sorry. Please continue, Anthony. That's funny.
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  Yeah, no, honestly, the family loves the RV. I'm always surprised,
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  like, when we take the RV out, like, when we're on the way back.
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  I'm like, all right, who wants to go back to California?
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  And they all want to go. And I'm like, really?
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  No BS. So good memories, man. I mean, seriously. I envy that.
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  You won't remember the bad times. You won't remember the rides home.
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  You won't remember the time there.
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  Exactly. So, Anthony, I got one for you. Because you guys like RVs.
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  I take my family back to where I used to live in Ohio, and I take them to a
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  place called Mosquito Lake. Okay.
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  And my wife is like, why are we going to a place called Mosquito Lake?
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  So I feel like I need to bring you because you're like a pest avenger,
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  dude. That's right, yeah.
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  I like to minimize my guests while they're here, and so I really want to put
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  Anthony on the spot real quick. So I love his wife. She's a phenomenal lady.
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  One, she can handle his ass and put him in. She can control him,
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  which is fun to watch sometimes.
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  She's got brain power. Like she controls me. She controls the kids.
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  Bro, and I'm scared to death of her. I love her, but I'm scared to death of
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  her. But the cool thing is I met Anthony. We're hanging out.
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  First time we got together, got to go out to eat with the wife and him and meet her.
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  And it was kind of fun to listen to her response. She looked at him and was
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  like, he's so much bigger than you.
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  All the time. That's what I hear every time we hang out. Every dude wants to hear that. Oh, yeah.
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  That's exactly what we all want to hear. He's so much bigger than you.
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  She's so impressed with it because everywhere we go, I'm like the biggest guy
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  in the room for the most part.
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  So, like, when we hang out with
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  Eric, she's just, is that why you quit hanging out with me? Is that it?
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  Hey, I'm working. Sorry, Eric. I can't hang out with you. I'm working right now. Has she met Roger?
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  Yeah, yeah. Recently. We met at Eric's AARP birthday where he decided to meet
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  his top Social Security party.
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  I thought it was his retirement party, but apparently it's just a birthday. It's fine.
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  AARP. So, Anthony, how long did it take you to come up with a name, Savage Pest Forward?
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  Was that something? Because I can tell you, when I was going through the whole
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  CJ3 thing, man, the name was ridiculous.
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  Just how to come up with something and what it should be took me like three months.
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  Maybe you're not, maybe you're not, you're a lot faster than I wish I was on
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  the same boat there, but it was like, honestly too easy. Cause I wanted to,
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  The warfare part came from, obviously, military background.
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  So I knew that I wanted to call it that because most companies are like a pest
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  management or whatever.
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  You're not trying to manage them. You want to kill them. Yeah,
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  we just want to destroy whatever's out there. And then I was trying to come
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  up with the name, and I'm five minutes into it.
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  And I was like, these kids are fucking savages.
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  And that's where it comes from. There you go. And it works perfectly because
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  the definition for savages cannot be humanly controlled. And most pests,
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  you're never going to get rid of them immediately.
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  It takes a little bit of a process. And then in order to keep them away,
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  you constantly got to treat for them.
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  So it just worked out. What's the hardest pest to get rid of around here? My children.
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  He sprays them with shit all the time. They keep coming back.
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  He's like, damn, if that didn't work, next.
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  Nah, all pests for, I got plenty of experience doing it.
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  So they're all pretty easy to get rid of. I would say the toughest one are flying
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  insects, especially like right now, it's April, so you got like bee swarmers.
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  Um, there's no nest to treat, so you can't do anything about that,
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  but bees swarm all over the place.
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  Um, so that, that would probably be the hardest one. Anything that's,
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  you know, flying insects.
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  So out of curiosity for guy, do you guys get rid of wild animals out of attics? Absolutely.
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  What would be in an attic? Maybe a squirrel. I believe I heard earlier.
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  So what's the best way to get rid of one? Would it be to terminate its life?
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  I mean, the easiest and most cost-effective way would be a .22 with a silencer.
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  Unless you don't believe in guns and God and country. Whoa, whoa,
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  whoa, whoa, whoa. No one said I don't believe in that.
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  Look, he doesn't want to replace the siding, guys. That's what he's looking
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  for here. I have befriended these squirrels.
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  Oh, God. Oh, he's feeding them. Oh, my God, you're feeding them.
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  There's a reason he's got squirrels.
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  I enjoy watching them. There's a difference. One squirrel talks to the other.
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  They're like, hey, you got to come in here.
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  I'm making a note. Hey, he's got food for us all the time. I don't understand it.
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  Put a note right here. It says repeat customer. Charge him extra. He feeds them.
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  We're at a boiling point where this is their, this winter is their last winter stay with us.
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  So whatever I got to do, I'm going to either kill them or, you know,
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  I've heard they migrate though.
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  They'll visit each other. They're very social. We will, uh, we generally trap, relocate.
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  What do you mean by like social? Like they go over for a gang bang and then
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  make babies and then leave.
• 20:51
  He was thinking some beers. Literally, that's exactly what they do.
• 20:54
  Those little bastards. That's why I identify with a man. Yeah, I can see that.
• 21:02
  So i do have a question before you continue so anthony
• 21:06
  how did you get involved with the cj3 foundation how'd you meet this this ugly
• 21:10
  man over here who's bigger than most i'm gonna let him tell the story he tells
• 21:14
  it so much better oh my lord you're gonna make him the car show what at the
• 21:18
  car show that's how that's how i met you the first time i don't remember that man oh i'll tell it.
• 21:25
  He's told the story like at least i was gonna say he'll add in as soon as you
• 21:30
  start telling it you're fine he's got he's got some oldness settling in with
• 21:36
  him i just want to hear you can't remember it because i want to hear his version
• 21:38
  of this so in eric's words here,
• 21:41
  it'll be i showed up at the car show with my
• 21:44
  giant truck and then i looked across
• 21:47
  the parking lot and me and anthony locked eyes he was over there that
• 21:50
  is how this goes and we knew instantly we
• 21:53
  would be friends and the funny part is like it's
• 21:56
  so true because i was on the other side of parking lot
• 21:59
  like oh i'm gonna go talk to that dude he looks like
• 22:02
  cool he looks like my people's yeah and and this
• 22:05
  is in like a car show that generally has what was this cars and cigars cars
• 22:09
  and cigars over at dc prime right uh or was it somewhere else x cal no no that
• 22:14
  little shopping center in one loud or not one loud ashburn village yeah or whatever
• 22:18
  that is oh yeah the train station yeah yeah yeah yep so this is a car show with probably 500 cars you,
• 22:25
  six 800 people walking around yeah we found each and then it was like yeah we
• 22:29
  locked eyes right there so let me ask let me ask eric a question if if he would
• 22:35
  have pulled in like with a little dotson truck would you have been like that
• 22:41
  little bitch fuck that guy yes he would have,
• 22:45
  i will say this anthony's a big time car guy so yes he would he would have ate my shit.
• 22:52
  So black black velvet or dream weaver was playing and you locked eyes please
• 22:56
  continue either one of you please go that that's the uh we made out yeah now we're lifelong buddies,
• 23:03
  so hey you do some cool things for the foundation brother i
• 23:06
  i want to pimp you a little bit for that i i'm very appreciative
• 23:09
  for what you do so kind of tell the tell the
• 23:12
  group the audience what you do and and kind of what
• 23:14
  made you go that route i just kill shit i
• 23:17
  don't really know what you're talking about the hoods oh no so
• 23:21
  we we put we put the so we got some nice trucks they're all black
• 23:24
  with the green logos on them well they were nice till your employees get
• 23:27
  a little exactly yeah when they bounce they use them
• 23:30
  as bumper cars but no so we put i i had
• 23:33
  nothing on the hood on like my whole truck design nothing was on the hood so
• 23:36
  we came up with putting the cj3 foundation on the hood which works out great
• 23:41
  because a lot of times we do do the paperwork right on the hood of the truck
• 23:44
  my customer will come out to the truck they'll they'll be admiring the truck
• 23:48
  And as you're filling out the paperwork,
• 23:50
  it leads to the question, what is the CGI3 Foundation?
• 23:54
  And it, going through the program now, like I have such a better explanation
• 23:58
  of what you guys do and how you help people.
• 24:01
  And it's led to a lot. Dude, that was cool. That was cool as hell that you got
• 24:05
  a chance to go through our mental health and wellness process in Iowa.
• 24:07
  That was awesome. I'm glad you made the decision.
• 24:09
  It was awesome for me to be able to send you because for our listening audience,
• 24:14
  my folks live back there as well. It's a.
• 24:16
  One of the things we strive to do in the foundation is try to make this a family thing.
• 24:21
  And you truly do get around most of my family in this process.
• 24:24
  So it was a blessing to be able to have you back there. So I appreciate the hell out of there.
• 24:27
  It was even more of a blessing to go through the program. No,
• 24:30
  that's awesome. You have no idea.
• 24:31
  No, that's awesome. I absolutely benefited from it so much.
• 24:35
  I have to say something.
• 24:38
  I have to say something here. So we were talking about the paintings that were
• 24:42
  up in here. So there's one like hanging up over here by the bar.
• 24:47
  And I just looked in the drawer and I have the card and, you know,
• 24:51
  the, the title of this painting that's over here by the bar is called the toll.
• 24:57
  And I know about that. Yeah. And that's why it spoke to me.
• 25:01
  And it spoke to me as it does to many other veterans, first responders,
• 25:06
  because there's a giant toll.
• 25:08
  And the fact that CJ3 and all the supporters and partners that are a part of
• 25:15
  that support that toll is fucking badass, man.
• 25:19
  No, that's cool. It's fucking badass. I appreciate it. Fucking badass.
• 25:22
  Hey, Anthony, so tell us a little bit about your company. What area do you serve?
• 25:26
  So we service all in Northern Virginia, which generally runs from Round Hill
• 25:31
  all the way out to Arlington, Alexandria.
• 25:33
  Most of the commercial work we do is in Arlington, Alexandria.
• 25:37
  Uh residential pretty much everywhere else so it's interesting
• 25:40
  i get the opportunity to talk to you pretty regularly and i like to pick your
• 25:43
  brain because i'm i'm in the government work which is different space
• 25:46
  than what you're in like roger different cockroaches yeah whole different kind
• 25:50
  different children as i like to say so yeah it's interesting because my significant
• 25:55
  other is a school teacher and i'm like i think she's got the better job i'd
• 25:59
  rather deal with those kids than the grown-up dealing with adult children is
• 26:02
  not your significant other's a school teacher Oh,
• 26:06
  God bless those children, dude. Yeah, middle school.
• 26:08
  And they're more grown up than some of the people I work with.
• 26:10
  Like, I've told Eric this because when I saw his significant other at the bar,
• 26:17
  I recognized her from the gym. She's a fucking beast, dude.
• 26:20
  Beast mode. Like, no, she's like no business. Like, I'm going in there. I'm destroying shit.
• 26:26
  So I can't imagine what middle schoolers feel. Guys, she's so quiet until she gets mad at you.
• 26:31
  And then I— Bro, she's not quiet to you. She's not quiet to me.
• 26:34
  But she's so quiet and me and then all of a sudden i get the fuck you roger i'll cut you.
• 26:41
  Never said it i'm like bullshit i got like five witnesses that heard what you
• 26:45
  said to me she is she's scary i'm not gonna lie but i mean dealing with eric
• 26:49
  yeah you gotta be scary what's up with me and yeah she's half my height right
• 26:53
  she handles me so that's baseball bat the high And half your rage.
• 26:58
  Hey, we weren't going there.
• 27:01
  Now that you've gone there, let's continue. What hell's bells.
• 27:05
  You should be giving me a high five at this point. I am giving you a high five, Ben.
• 27:10
  Eric's on a walker on AARP. Trying to find drivers. And there you go.
• 27:16
  Hey, to your point, she's beast mode enough she can push the wheelchair. We're good.
• 27:22
  He's playing the long game here. He is. He thought about this.
• 27:26
  He's like, shit, I need someone to push me around here soon. It just happened.
• 27:29
  No, no, no. Like, no joke. Like, a couple years ago, she'd go to the gym that I go to.
• 27:36
  And, like, a lot of the women that go in there, yeah, they like to talk.
• 27:39
  Dude, they're drinking caramel macchiatos. She's straight fucking business, dude. She goes in.
• 27:44
  She's just like, she doesn't dress like all the other women.
• 27:49
  Oh, please say this. I want to hear that because I'm going to go home. No.
• 27:53
  Like she just dresses like I'm going to go in there and fucking just stack shit, man.
• 27:59
  And like I respect that a lot, like a whole lot in the gym because I don't like
• 28:04
  the whole show that a lot of people put in there.
• 28:06
  So she was squatting more than Eric's weight and bench pressing more than Eric
• 28:09
  weighs. I think that's pretty good.
• 28:11
  It's 100% she was. That's about it.
• 28:14
  We know Eric at his age is just doing for physique at this point.
• 28:17
  He's trying to keep that muscle mass up. So 135 pounds on the bar.
• 28:20
  That's what I do. I can't lie.
• 28:21
  I was like, when was the last time you were in the gym? That is totally me.
• 28:24
  Listen, I do the bar at this point, and thank God I can get it off my chest.
• 28:27
  I'm getting old, too. Anthony's laughing, and he don't get a laugh either.
• 28:30
  When was the last time you were in the gym, you jerk?
• 28:33
  It's been a little while. He doesn't have to. He's wrestling squirrels out of
• 28:37
  attics, man. What do you want from him? He's a...
• 28:39
  You don't need that when you're, like, you've got, like, whatever you kill bugs
• 28:43
  with. Right. Like, you don't need to fucking do shit, dude.
• 28:47
  No, I'm not saying you don't need to do shit. He's going into crawl spaces.
• 28:50
  You got to figure it out, man.
• 28:51
  He's still doing all that stuff, man. We're not doing it anymore.
• 28:55
  Because we sit behind desks. We're old.
• 28:56
  We sit behind desks. That's our fault. Every time I see him,
• 28:59
  he's just handing bugs out at car shows.
• 29:02
  Here, hold this rope. Speaking of that, for Eric's rat rod, can you give me
• 29:07
  a rat trap that I can put in his seat? because he hates the children getting
• 29:10
  in that thing. Like this big.
• 29:11
  That like shocks them. Are you sure there's not one sitting there right now?
• 29:14
  I mean, there needs to be. Oh, oh, oh.
• 29:16
  Well, especially considering I have a big-ass Indian dude that gets in it and you're not supposed to.
• 29:21
  Whatever. You're the one that says you want to flip me in it.
• 29:24
  So, hey, that is a thing. You're a car guy, man.
• 29:27
  Absolutely. You can't seem to keep a car for longer than six months in your garage. And I know that.
• 29:32
  So, what's your thing, brother? Because you've got a constant rotation.
• 29:36
  What do you like to do? honestly I've been looking for the right car I also
• 29:40
  you've had a couple pretty cool ones yeah yeah absolutely.
• 29:44
  A few years ago as a hobby, I started buying cars from different areas,
• 29:48
  bringing them here and then reselling them.
• 29:49
  So that's where a lot of like the classics that you would see me have,
• 29:52
  that's what happens with them.
• 29:54
  But it's also my hobby. It's the hunt to go find the car at a, you know, decent deal.
• 29:59
  But it's also the consternation I see during some of them going,
• 30:04
  out of all of them, I might keep this one. I might actually keep this one.
• 30:07
  If she'll just let me have five, I'll keep this one.
• 30:11
  Exactly. no i i i'm passionate
• 30:14
  about all cars so that's what i've learned as i've gotten a
• 30:16
  little bit older it really doesn't matter growing up
• 30:19
  i was like big had to be a chevy now pretty much anything
• 30:22
  american you know tickles my fancy all
• 30:26
  right all right i got i gotta know because eric said what
• 30:29
  cars have you gotten rid of that we would all bro what the hell hey he's
• 30:32
  getting rid of some yeah what have you gotten rid of the the
• 30:35
  most i guess i don't know a famous one but
• 30:38
  like the most uh one i wish i would have kept was a 67
• 30:41
  true rsss camaro oh yeah
• 30:45
  and my wife gives me such a hard time about that that's like a dream car man
• 30:51
  it was beautiful yeah i bought it at a gas station the guy was getting gas at
• 30:56
  a 7-eleven my buddy saw it gave me the information i called him bought it on
• 31:02
  the spot went out there got it,
• 31:04
  However, I listed it for sale. I think it wasn't much more than I paid for it, but like 10 grand more.
• 31:09
  And a dealer came by within eight hours and picked the car up.
• 31:13
  And I was like, I think I listed that too low. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
• 31:17
  Dealer comes by. Hold on. Sorry, that was a phone deal. This is in person now. Oh, man.
• 31:23
  The bright side of it, though, was growing up with my dad.
• 31:28
  Right around 16, I started restoring muscle cars. So, like, the Holy Grail was like a SS Camaro.
• 31:34
  You know, if you could get an SSRS, very rare car.
• 31:38
  So I called him up and he's like, I was like, hey, dad, I got this Camaro last
• 31:42
  night, but somebody's coming to pick it up this afternoon.
• 31:46
  And he's an older guy. And he was like, all right, so what do you want me to
• 31:49
  do? I'm like, just bring your ass down to Virginia real quick. So we go for a quick spin.
• 31:54
  So we spent about four hours hot rodding the thing, like doing donuts.
• 31:59
  To the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office. He lives in Percival.
• 32:02
  He goes up and down seven and nine oh they know who I am I got seven tickets
• 32:07
  last weekend hold on don't say what you don't say what you have right now yeah but where did you pick,
• 32:14
  The one you have right now, where did you pick that up? Minnesota or something
• 32:17
  like that? Yeah, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
• 32:18
  No, no, you can't do that. He's got to say what it is. No, he will. I will.
• 32:23
  He's drawing this out a little bit. But it's important to me because this bothers
• 32:27
  car people, but I love Anthony for it because he believes in if you own it,
• 32:32
  drive it. It's not just meant to sit there.
• 32:34
  So this dude goes looking for this car, finds it. He doesn't take a car holler.
• 32:40
  He goes out there to drive this thing back.
• 32:42
  Anthony, what do you have right now? I got a 2008 Dodge Viper ACR.
• 32:47
  One of one builds. That he drives. Jesus, dude. Hey, he goes out there,
• 32:52
  and the guy's like, where's your trailer?
• 32:54
  And he's like, I'm driving this thing. Hey, does it work? Yeah. I'm driving it back.
• 32:59
  So do you work on the cars, too? So do you rebuild them all,
• 33:02
  or do you buy them, rebuild them, and then sell them, or do you just?
• 33:05
  For the most part, I've been buying them completely built already.
• 33:09
  Beautiful, pristine hot rods, for the most part. Like on my own cars,
• 33:12
  I always do all the maintenance myself.
• 33:15
  Could I build a car? Probably. I just don't have time to.
• 33:19
  By the way, Roger, he's never let me actually ride or drive any of his cars yet.
• 33:24
  Smart. You're a smart, smart man. That is brilliant. All of them.
• 33:30
  Aaron can't drive. All of them. Anthony does support our charity.
• 33:35
  I do like vehicles. And Anthony's holding on to one of my vehicles that apparently
• 33:39
  has left his garage on multiple occasions that I wasn't in it.
• 33:43
  Eric, you don't even drive to D.C. Why is he going to let you drive a car around?
• 33:50
  All three of you, I got a challenge for you. Oh, shit. I got a challenge.
• 33:54
  And I believe between the four of us, we can do this.
• 33:58
  Let's put together something where we pitch in, we get a fucking car,
• 34:03
  we restore it. Dude, Harvey.
• 34:05
  Absolutely. And we fucking give it to a veteran or a first responder. Oh, absolutely.
• 34:11
  Let's do that. Like, I'm telling you, man, like, and any proceeds we get from
• 34:18
  like a drawing or whatever, it goes right into the foundation.
• 34:21
  And then somebody wins that car. So can I tell you this guy?
• 34:24
  Yeah, so one of the vehicles I was referring to, Anthony's holding on the foundation.
• 34:28
  We have a CJ3A 1953 Jeep Willys rat rod powered by a 98 Cummins turbo diesel engine.
• 34:37
  And so this thing, and it sits about two inches off the ground with 36-inch
• 34:42
  tires. It's ridiculous.
• 34:44
  So, but my point to you is we could make that work because we had some local
• 34:50
  community partners that came on board when I was building that.
• 34:53
  That sold us the parts at cost.
• 34:55
  To do that project my point to you
• 34:58
  is i'm pretty sure i could re-engage some of them and
• 35:01
  they'd get on board with a project like a giveaway like that like
• 35:04
  that'd be huge we could make that a whole i mean we could
• 35:07
  plan that for the your golf tournament next year i
• 35:10
  wouldn't even want i would want to make that its own event because yeah that'd
• 35:23
  be a huge event I wouldn't want that tied in with anything. And it's got to be a 68 Camaro.
• 35:28
  See, now you're getting specific. I mean, look, dude.
• 35:32
  Can we get that for cheap? I mean, if we're painting it, you can pick it up pretty low cost. Yeah.
• 35:39
  And for any normal day veteran or first responder, getting a 68 Camaro that's
• 35:46
  been restored is literally a fucking dream come true.
• 35:50
  Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 35:53
  No, I think that'd be a fun challenge. I think we could do that.
• 35:57
  Okay. That'll take some work, but I think we could do that. So what you're saying
• 35:59
  is challenge accepted. Yeah.
• 36:01
  I think that's a yes. Yeah. I think it's a yes. Let's do this.
• 36:05
  I think we can do it. Let's fucking do it. No, you got to remember.
• 36:09
  I'm responsible for the charity business side, but I think we can do that.
• 36:12
  I really do. I think that's doable. I think we can too.
• 36:14
  And you know what? Like, again, a first responder or veteran,
• 36:18
  that's something they will fucking adore.
• 36:20
  So here's the interesting thing, man. I know how excited we are.
• 36:24
  We'll bring our veterans up here to gift them a service dog,
• 36:26
  which is awesome and exciting.
• 36:28
  Imagine the excitement even that i would feel like because i
• 36:31
  get i get super i get just as excited or more than they
• 36:34
  probably do imagine the excitement you'd feel
• 36:37
  handing the keys over to a veteran or oh god
• 36:41
  you're the guy getting guy or gal getting this thing that'd be so i'm gonna
• 36:46
  do it bro i i think it would be just you know on both sides of it would be outstanding
• 36:52
  like whether you're giving so hold on receiving do i need to call the wife or
• 36:56
  does that mean Savage Pest Warfare is behind this. You don't want to call her.
• 37:01
  Because she would tell you no and she'd rightfully do that. She would be like,
• 37:04
  we don't need another car.
• 37:06
  The only request I have if we're doing this is that Eric can't drive it. But Eric's so big.
• 37:11
  We just make the seats small. Look, I'm pretty sure we can get like all your
• 37:16
  partners that are already behind you behind this. No, I think we could.
• 37:20
  I mean, something like that. I think we'd bring them all out.
• 37:22
  But here's the only thing I'm thinking of And it's just a candid business.
• 37:28
  I don't want to do anything half-assed. So I want to make sure if we're doing
• 37:30
  it, I want the right people behind it. I want, you know, because this,
• 37:34
  that'd be a big deal, bro.
• 37:35
  I mean, giving away something like that would be awesome. Yeah.
• 37:38
  But I think we could. We could do it.
• 37:40
  Yep. I think we could. Like, dude, you, you already committed, so it's a done deal.
• 37:45
  Hey, let me give Roger's answer. Whatever.
• 37:50
  Whatever. You're driving. Whatever.
• 37:55
  Anthony, are you into helping restore it? Absolutely. Yeah. Fuck yeah.
• 37:59
  We're in, dude. Let's do this. I'm down for whatever.
• 38:02
  So. Hey, Anthony. Before we commit you to more stuff, let me,
• 38:05
  let me, dude. Hold on. I got to take notes. I got, I just committed this.
• 38:11
  You're in a calendar that's like a good soldier right there man yeah next year
• 38:16
  we have to have this car get started now anthony's gonna be like hey uh i got
• 38:22
  this 68 camaro where's the money,
• 38:24
  so hold on this is why we're saying this anthony i
• 38:28
  called you this evening just to see how you were doing you remember that call
• 38:32
  so i i i decided to call anthony i roll up in the parking lot i'm smoking a
• 38:37
  cigar and I'm like Anthony what's going on bro's just chill he's like what's
• 38:41
  going on to you and I could hear in the background he's just chilling and I'm
• 38:45
  like I know what happened I was a,
• 38:48
  So you're coming up here tonight? Shit.
• 38:54
  He's like, I knew I was forgetting something. Son of a bitch.
• 38:59
  He got me good today. That's for sure. I got you good. We had this plan.
• 39:04
  I guess the military part of me was like, holy shit, what time was I supposed
• 39:08
  to be there? I'm like, it's six o'clock.
• 39:10
  I could get there 15 minutes prior to the problem, flying down seven.
• 39:15
  And I made it. Did you call Christy? Yeah. You did, of course.
• 39:17
  Yeah, I'd let her know. I'm like, hey, you scheduled me baseball practice when
• 39:21
  I'm supposed to be in baseball. Thank you.
• 39:23
  Did you get an apology? No chance. She won't apologize to me for shit. Really?
• 39:29
  Here's what we're going to do, Anthony. So we haven't published any Warriors
• 39:34
  and Watchmen's podcast yet. Oh, this is just for fun. Yeah, we're not just for fun.
• 39:39
  So here's what we're going to do. We're going to sideline this.
• 39:41
  This isn't going to be published, dude. No, I'm joking.
• 39:43
  No, what I'm saying is we're going to publish the shit out of this.
• 39:47
  Awesome. Yeah, we're going to publish the shit out of this one,
• 39:49
  dude, because you committed to a 68 Camaro.
• 39:52
  Why are we stuck on that? That's fairly specific. We said any car,
• 39:57
  and all you hear from him is a 68 Camaro.
• 39:59
  Literally, he started this out. Let's do a car.
• 40:02
  Let's do a 68 Camaro. I'm going to buy 50,000 tickets. We don't know who this
• 40:07
  is. We don't know who that is.
• 40:09
  He's AI trying to get us to commit to something that might be hard to do. I am not AI, Eric.
• 40:20
  Alexa, shut up.
• 40:25
  He's waiting to go back to normal why he's why he's doing that i know right
• 40:29
  that's your normal voice isn't it it's normally pretty high actually i got a
• 40:35
  real question of you but he like like,
• 40:38
  not to not to be a killjoy here but given given the
• 40:41
  sign of the times there's some things we like to talk about that's going on and
• 40:43
  all that stuff i'm another another conversation you and i
• 40:46
  have had because i deal with it the federal government roger deals
• 40:49
  with it in the federal contracting world and all that bro
• 40:52
  find finding quality employees as a
• 40:55
  private you're owning your own company and like i hear the phenomenal things
• 40:59
  you do with the job and i see your heart and your passion and all that other
• 41:04
  stuff which is awesome but man some of the problems you run into i can't even
• 41:09
  i just can't even relate given the federal government bro explain to me about.
• 41:14
  Employment and trying to find quality people it's
• 41:18
  it's rough out there is the nicest way to put it say what's
• 41:20
  your turnover it's the turnover if we
• 41:23
  can get somebody to like make it the 90 days is
• 41:26
  not too bad he's got recidivism it's crazy
• 41:31
  the problems that i've run into i have another
• 41:34
  business owner he has a power wash company and i
• 41:37
  i tell him every problem that i've ran into like
• 41:40
  when it happens and like he's like dude are
• 41:43
  you making this shit up because like the excuses the
• 41:47
  the reasons not to work it's it's not
• 41:50
  there in my blood whether military or not like
• 41:53
  it's it's i disagree with you on that it you
• 41:57
  might be right there yeah i think the military puts
• 42:00
  a a precedence in somebody that makes
• 42:03
  them want to succeed but that but guy i'm
• 42:06
  gonna tell you this so it's interesting because you know
• 42:08
  talking to anthony just watching some of this so he
• 42:12
  puts his best foot forward he overpays him he
• 42:15
  was given take-home vehicles and gas
• 42:18
  cards all these other things incentivizing them
• 42:21
  to want to work right it's like listen i'm investing in you you just got to
• 42:26
  show up and do the job and represent the company literally that's all they had
• 42:29
  to do absolutely yeah and evidently that's asking too much and it's it's ridiculous
• 42:35
  he gets people So like some of the problems he tells me. Were they prior military?
• 42:40
  I had one that was prior military. Was he really? We don't know.
• 42:45
  We don't want to talk about that.
• 42:46
  He claims some of it. I still haven't seen a 214 from the guy. So I don't know.
• 42:51
  I mean, everybody in this room was prior military.
• 42:56
  No, that is incorrect. Except for one. That's incorrect. I'm going to put the
• 43:00
  camera on him. That is incorrect.
• 43:04
  Boy, he hates that. No, no, no, no. Roger, I'm not trying to dime you out.
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  But I will say this. Like...
• 43:12
  There is a different thing with prior military. And, Roger, I do believe you
• 43:19
  could acknowledge this, because
• 43:21
  But I want to be careful, though. Not all. Most. A lot. Most.
• 43:26
  And you're right. You're 100%. I mean, it's not all.
• 43:31
  It's most. But on the flip side of that coin is those that want to start a business
• 43:38
  or have any ounce of leadership,
• 43:41
  they could recognize the ones that are not worth their salt.
• 43:47
  Oh, yeah. Absolutely. 100%.
• 43:50
  Absolutely. You know, I would say, you know, again, you know,
• 43:54
  I'm not bashing anybody that's not been in the military because there are people
• 43:58
  that support all kinds of great shit like Roger.
• 44:02
  But the thing is, is like, you know, if I hire somebody, if they've been in
• 44:08
  the military, that's a plus for me.
• 44:11
  That's a hundred percent a plus. And because I know that. You also know you
• 44:16
  can speak to them in a different way. You can.
• 44:18
  I can tell you a lot of stories. You can be like, look, I'll feed you crayons for lunch. Bonus.
• 44:26
  Well, hell, I mean, getting somebody from the military, I'll give you a quick
• 44:30
  example. In my job, I hired a couple people.
• 44:33
  One was for, I won't even say what it was for, but it was a younger girl,
• 44:36
  and I was hiring her for a particular job, and then I hired a military guy.
• 44:40
  The younger girl thought that she only had to work seven hours a day because
• 44:43
  the lunch break was paid for, and so she would show up at 9 o'clock and then
• 44:47
  leave at 3 because she thought she'd done her hours in a day.
• 44:50
  I know those are great hours.
• 44:51
  And I was like, when on earth did that become a thing? What are you talking
• 44:55
  about? She's like, well, I work an eight hour day. I go, no,
• 44:58
  lunch is not part of your eight hour day.
• 45:00
  You need to work eight hours. You get a break after four. The military guy,
• 45:03
  I had to get to go home. I was like, you need to leave, dude.
• 45:06
  I ain't staying this late.
• 45:07
  It's five o'clock. It's time to
• 45:08
  go. So just a variation of not saying all college students are like that,
• 45:13
  but the way the world's gone, it is very much a what can you do for me in that
• 45:19
  sense type of world versus dealing with military men and women are a lot easier.
• 45:24
  So, I'd like to take a quick break. Please do.
• 45:27
  After the break, Anthony, I'd like to get into your service.
• 45:30
  Let's talk about what you did in the Army and kind of what made you you and
• 45:34
  brought you to this point. And I want to ask you, why not Navy?
• 45:36
  So, we'll get back to that in a minute. All right.
• 45:39
  Great. We will be back shortly.
• 45:43
  Welcome back to Warriors and Watchmen.
• 45:46
  Roger Singh and Eric Thomas with CJ3 Foundation. and we're with our guest,
• 45:51
  Anthony Pensamine of Savage Pest Warfare.
• 45:54
  Anthony, welcome back. Thank you.
• 45:56
  Hey, brother, I promised you I really wanted to get into your service because
• 46:00
  obviously warriors and watchmen, what's important to me is the things that made
• 46:05
  you the hero that we like to support.
• 46:07
  And I watched your face when I say it because I love to do that to other people
• 46:10
  because I know what I do when I hear that. Do it back to him.
• 46:12
  Thank you. Thank you for that.
• 46:14
  Hey, two things we hate. We hate the word hero, right? You absolutely hate that.
• 46:19
  Thank you for your service.
• 46:20
  Oh, that's tough to hear, right? But you know what? I will say this.
• 46:24
  Somebody told me one time, right, an old codger that had served and said,
• 46:27
  listen, for some people, that's all they got.
• 46:30
  Don't take their joy from them. That's the only thing they have to offer.
• 46:33
  And so I've learned to accept it.
• 46:36
  I'm still not great with it inside, but I smile. I thank them for it and whatever.
• 46:40
  But that was always hard for me.
• 46:42
  But I watched your face when I say hero. I know you hate that.
• 46:45
  But understand this, to the foundation, you're a hero for what you do for the CJ3 Foundation.
• 46:50
  You're a hero for your service. You're a hero for being a phenomenal father,
• 46:54
  phenomenal husband, all those other things.
• 46:56
  So hats off to you, my man. Phenomenal camper.
• 47:01
  Absolutely. RVer. And willing to take on risk with an RV. Absolutely.
• 47:05
  That's amazing. That's fantastic.
• 47:07
  Hold on. The thing I kept thinking of. That's the real hero job right there.
• 47:10
  What was the movie? Because the one I kept thinking of is the movie with Jennifer Aniston.
• 47:15
  Roll out. Oh, Jason Sudeikis and Jennifer Aniston when they talk.
• 47:18
  Yeah. They're moving drugs. The Millers. The Millers. Meet the Millers tonight.
• 47:24
  This is not really my family. I don't know why I like that movie.
• 47:29
  That's what I think of, but I see.
• 47:30
  And you're silly enough that I could see that happening.
• 47:34
  Because if some shit's going to happen, Anthony, it's going to happen to you.
• 47:37
  I'm just saying. I have to agree with you. So, hey, so my man,
• 47:41
  you couldn't make it on the ground, so you had to go up in the air in the Army.
• 47:44
  So talk to me about your career bro in the army it was totally by chance like
• 47:48
  i definitely was you know didn't sign up to go flying helicopters or whatever,
• 47:54
  Bro, you didn't fly them. Come on. Nobody trusts you. I said fly in them.
• 47:58
  You don't want me flying in. We'd need a lot of helicopters.
• 48:01
  You missed the in part, Eric, clearly.
• 48:03
  But no, I got that position with moving ammunition. And the only reason I got
• 48:09
  it was because of machine gun qualifications.
• 48:12
  Okay, hold on. Let's go back. What did you start? Like, what year did you get
• 48:15
  in? What, like, even before that? Yeah.
• 48:18
  What got you to the recruiting station? What got you, like, what was in your
• 48:21
  mind? What was going on? Like, did you know that's what you were going to do?
• 48:25
  Did you knock her up and you needed a job? I mean, what's going on?
• 48:28
  No, there was no kids involved.
• 48:31
  No knocking up. At that point. Hence what I, before we went to break,
• 48:34
  that's why I said, why not Navy? What happened? There was no slapping of the cheeks.
• 48:39
  No, so, I mean, there was plenty of that, but that's not what led me to the military.
• 48:45
  That was just Eric before you even knew him. Hold on. A little promo for the military.
• 48:51
  Like flapping cheeks for you young
• 48:55
  guys it's basically what i'm
• 48:57
  hearing from it it's a prison and that's exactly what
• 49:00
  we call them barracks bunnies for a reason i i have a i have a very funny story
• 49:06
  before anthony tells his his story here my son like you know he's 10 this is
• 49:14
  like two years ago i'm dropping him off and he's playing a video game he's like
• 49:18
  i'm gonna slap Slap that person's cheeks.
• 49:21
  And I'm like, so I'm like, what?
• 49:26
  I'm like, no. So we drop him off.
• 49:33
  We drop him off at Mike's house, Mike Reardon's house, and he's getting out
• 49:38
  and he's like, man, I want him to slap my cheeks.
• 49:47
  I hope you had a long talk about meaning, sir.
• 49:54
  Oh, I did. I did. I was like, dude, there's no slapping cheeks anymore, bro.
• 49:57
  Hey, what was that question? Is there a slang we don't know that changed everything?
• 50:01
  Did everything change on it?
• 50:02
  Slapping cheeks. Slapping cheeks is something different now. I don't know. Oh, Lord.
• 50:08
  Okay, Anthony, back to you, dude. Do not go to Boy Scouts or the Army and say, slap my cheeks.
• 50:15
  That is a no-go. So is that your answer to why not Navy? I get it now.
• 50:23
  Insert itself. Sorry, bro. Hey, we're in 19 what?
• 50:29
  Or 2000. When did you? It was 2005.
• 50:33
  God, baby.
• 50:35
  Boy. I told you he was younger than us, Eric. So, bro, what was going on?
• 50:40
  So at that time, obviously I watched September 11th in my high school.
• 50:45
  What was that? Yeah. What happened that day?
• 50:50
  Well, if we're slapping cheeks, I don't know what's going on anymore.
• 50:55
  Are we sure? What does September 11th mean?
• 50:57
  So, so we watched that. I was, I was a sophomore in high school.
• 51:01
  You were where that day? In Sterling, Virginia. I was in my study hall in the
• 51:06
  cafeteria and they put it on the cafeteria.
• 51:08
  So I totally put it up on the TV. Yep. I remember the one tower was burning.
• 51:14
  The other one hadn't been hit yet. There was nothing else going on. How old were you?
• 51:18
  I was 16 and a half. What was going through your brain at that?
• 51:22
  Because, I mean, terrorism and things like that aren't what go through your
• 51:25
  brain. So what were you thinking when you saw that? My first thought was, like, it's a fire.
• 51:29
  And then the second, like, the second tower was hit, we seen it live on TV.
• 51:34
  And I was like, dude, that's a missile.
• 51:35
  Like, that was my thought in the process there. And I remember it very vividly.
• 51:40
  I also remember at the time my cousin, Danny Sweeney, He actually lives down in Stafford.
• 51:45
  He's retired Coast Guard now, but he was in the Army at the time.
• 51:48
  Oh, so he was almost military.
• 51:50
  No, he was. He was real military before he did the Coast Guard.
• 51:53
  Oh, Coast Guard. Derek, stop upsetting our armed forces, sir.
• 51:59
  Everybody's getting all hot and bothered right now. We get to say it in here.
• 52:03
  Amongst brothers, we get to say it. You understand this goes out to the masses
• 52:06
  at some point. It actually goes out to the public, Derek.
• 52:09
  Who does Mikey work for? Coast Guard. Coast Guard.
• 52:14
  Yeah so even better so all right keep going
• 52:17
  so yeah he's in boot camp at this time close cousin growing up and he said he
• 52:23
  told me after this was a couple months later i'm speaking to him he said when
• 52:27
  it when it happened live he was in boot camp and he they they called a meeting
• 52:32
  they said hey this is boot camp we are training we are going to war,
• 52:37
  The shit became real for him, like, immediately. And he joined the military. For God, it's funny.
• 52:42
  No, I think for him more it was to get out of trouble.
• 52:47
  I don't think any of us growing up were, like, these, like, oh,
• 52:50
  you know, hero. I'm going to be the best soldier I can be growing up. No, dude, I get that.
• 52:55
  I signed up just to sign. I just felt the obligation to serve.
• 52:58
  It wasn't nothing heroic. It was just, why not do that? Yeah, exactly.
• 53:02
  We weren't even at war when I came in. I'm like, I may, I may not,
• 53:06
  but that wasn't what was first and foremost on my mind.
• 53:09
  And then, so for me, that was 2001. Now, two years go by, I graduate high school.
• 53:16
  Like, what was your plan finishing school? What was your plan?
• 53:19
  So my plan was, it wasn't the most well thought out play. Here we go.
• 53:23
  It never is. You're going to be an overpaid gigolo? No, it was pretty damn close.
• 53:29
  I know we need that thing out. I can make money getting naked.
• 53:32
  It's fine. That's all right. It's fine. Slapped my cheeks. Slapping cheeks.
• 53:38
  But no, it was for me, he's slapping cheeks in the background.
• 53:44
  So we got Guy and Mini-Me behind me. There's a whole, like, smoke show going on.
• 53:51
  I'm glad I can't see it. Yeah, you're lucky. Chimes and Roses is playing back here, slapping cheeks.
• 54:00
  Where were we? I forgot. So post 9-11, you're a Coast Guard buddy.
• 54:04
  A couple years later, you— Yep. So that was my cousin.
• 54:08
  He was in the Army boot camp at the time. He served, I think, eight years in the Army.
• 54:13
  Deployed three times to iraq i don't
• 54:16
  know all iraq so he went early oh yeah he was there
• 54:19
  for the invasion okay and i remember every
• 54:22
  now and then we would get a phone call with him and for me it was like i don't
• 54:26
  know if it was in the blood or whatnot but i was just so curious like what what
• 54:30
  war was like what was going on there i know i had seen it on tv were you but
• 54:34
  did you actively watch it like when it was on were you watching it every every
• 54:38
  time i could catch it Bro, I was attracted to it. Yeah.
• 54:42
  Like, I could not take my... Because I remember my generation,
• 54:45
  right? Like, first time was Desert Storm, which was amazing how fast it went, right?
• 54:49
  But, dude, I couldn't peel away from it. I had to watch it. Yeah,
• 54:52
  Desert Storm, Desert Shield.
• 54:54
  So, I get that, dude. I mean, you just... Like, there was a...
• 54:57
  An urge inside you to watch that i don't know what it was a
• 55:01
  curiosity to like what what does war look
• 55:04
  like like what does what are the guys around like
• 55:07
  how are they feeling right now what are they doing well and can i do that what's
• 55:12
  that no okay that's what i asked myself can i do that yeah yeah exactly am i
• 55:17
  always right because i mean come on look at our size look at our whatever we've
• 55:21
  been challenged throughout our lives whether it's on a sport field whether it's
• 55:24
  what And I always had that question. I wonder if I can do that.
• 55:27
  Exactly. Yeah. Can I hang? Can I do it?
• 55:30
  What's boot camp like? How do I get to that level? At that time,
• 55:34
  I was still football size, like a lineman. I was a big dude, kind of like I am now.
• 55:39
  And I was just like, man, I don't know if I can run. And that was probably what
• 55:42
  delayed me a whole year was, hey, I don't know if I can run that.
• 55:46
  If I know what I know now, I probably would have joined a little bit sooner.
• 55:49
  But I ended up going to West Virginia University. I picked that school because
• 55:53
  it was top number one in Playboy.
• 55:55
  So I was like, that's where I need to be. That's where my son went.
• 55:58
  Yeah, outstanding school. Absolutely.
• 56:02
  It's a slap in cheek sound.
• 56:05
  I thought he was about to play John Denver. Country Roads. I thought that was coming along.
• 56:12
  No, I wanted to play this one because you were in West Virginia.
• 56:16
  This is called Slapping Cheeks.
• 56:21
  I'm telling you, if it's not a slang word now, it's going to be by the end of
• 56:24
  this show. Hey, let's slap cheeks, dude.
• 56:31
  Roger, you over there slapping cheeks? Yes, I am. You want to slap them back?
• 56:37
  Sorry, Anthony. Anthony, go. Do it. Do it. All right, I'm back.
• 56:42
  So yeah curiosity was the biggest the biggest thing for
• 56:45
  me to why to join so what that led to
• 56:48
  was when you got to i went to meps eventually i
• 56:51
  was two years at school um in school
• 56:54
  i learned a couple things how to how to drink a lot which is like very helpful
• 56:58
  in my life like i could handle a little bit more alcohol than probably i should
• 57:01
  have but that did prepare you for the army absolutely and i was gonna say west
• 57:05
  virginia prepares you for a lot of shit too it does yeah and the other thing
• 57:09
  is I noticed that I could not stand like I,
• 57:14
  you know, you go to school and the whole thing is to go to school,
• 57:17
  get your degree, get a job. Yeah.
• 57:18
  I can't stand being inside. Like I love to be outside. I don't really care what the weather is.
• 57:23
  I think you just called us out, Eric. I think that's what I just heard from
• 57:26
  that. You all are little bitches and you should have gotten an outdoor job.
• 57:30
  The military slang is pogue. Yeah.
• 57:33
  Yeah. Person other than grunt. Yep. I mean, look, it all goes back to.
• 57:46
  And the new opening song to the show is right there. We're basically making it.
• 57:52
  I'm going to get sued for that. One day, Anthony's going to be able to finish
• 57:57
  the story. He will, sorry.
• 58:00
  That's good. All right, sir.
• 58:03
  So, yeah, I left one day from class, went straight to a recruiter.
• 58:08
  I actually made the newspaper for going to the recruiter because i went to the
• 58:13
  marine corps recruiter twice there was nobody yeah right oh whoa whoa whoa whoa this is getting good,
• 58:20
  this is outstanding nobody home yeah i gave this when i got out of boot camp
• 58:26
  they do you go to the recruiter for 12 days or something like that and i gave
• 58:30
  this story to somebody which ended up in the west virginia journal that's awesome and like,
• 58:35
  The Marine Corps recruiting station was doing push-ups for weeks over the whole
• 58:40
  story because nobody was there.
• 58:42
  Because the lights were on and nobody was there.
• 58:46
  Damn straight. This was printed. My mom actually still has the article because
• 58:50
  it was like an interview on May.
• 58:51
  Like, look. Oh, this is amazing. It needs to be posted immediately.
• 58:56
  As they should have been. As they should have been. They were on vacation is what I'm hearing.
• 59:02
  Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, Anthony, where were you from in West Virginia?
• 59:08
  So I'm originally from here, but I was at school in Morgantown. WVU, baby, come on.
• 59:14
  Mountaineers. Good old Morgantown. That recruiting station's like, that's on my radar now.
• 59:19
  So no longer in existence. What did they convince you to sign up to do?
• 59:23
  So they convinced me, they didn't convince me to do anything.
• 59:26
  So what they picked, they gave me the test or whatever. They were like,
• 59:29
  you can pick any job. What do you mean the test? You're talking about ASVAB?
• 59:32
  ASVAB, come on, man. It's not the test.
• 59:34
  The test, they try to figure out what you can handle or whatever.
• 59:39
  Your aptitude test. Yes. I got a really good score. And they were like,
• 59:42
  you can pick any job you want. And I was like, well, we're going to war, right?
• 59:45
  And the recruiter was like, it's a good chance.
• 59:48
  And I looked through the list and I was like, munitions.
• 59:51
  And he was like, of all the jobs you can pick, why would you pick that?
• 59:54
  I'm like, because you can keep the fucking water. You can keep your extra training.
• 59:58
  As long as I got munitions when I go to Iraq, I'll be good. But you're not the guy shooting them.
• 1:00:04
  That's what it was supposed to be, or whatever, I guess. He made something totally
• 1:00:08
  different, and he just got, hey, here's your ammo.
• 1:00:11
  Well, yeah, I just wanted to not be out of ammo.
• 1:00:13
  I'm like, dude, if I'm returning fire, the last thing I want to be doing is looking for ammo.
• 1:00:17
  And that is literally how I picked my job.
• 1:00:21
  As i joined the military how i ended up on helicopters though was the machine gun qualification,
• 1:00:28
  to go you know when you're getting ready to deploy you're doing a machine
• 1:00:31
  gun qualification and this is a total joke as well because
• 1:00:34
  we're all lined up at the at the 50 cal
• 1:00:36
  range you get your i think it's 18 rounds to
• 1:00:40
  qualify it's something weird like hold on guys can i
• 1:00:42
  ask this question yeah is this just me i could have swore i
• 1:00:45
  just heard i've got a kid that's in the military things have
• 1:00:48
  changed yeah i'll admit this i'm getting old i'm 50 we all
• 1:00:51
  talked about that earlier oh i didn't give your age so
• 1:00:54
  so i use this thing i use a saying
• 1:00:57
  based off our military slang when something's going wrong or something going
• 1:01:00
  wrong i say you need to adjust your headspace and timing is it true that a 50
• 1:01:05
  cal no longer has headspace and timing oh i don't i don't know ours did yes
• 1:01:09
  ours did yeah well but it's not 2005 no 2026 not true but i heard it doesn't anymore Bullshit.
• 1:01:16
  What do you think? A mod do says headspace. No, I'm telling you,
• 1:01:19
  we need to look this up because I was told by a young enlisted soldier that
• 1:01:23
  happens to be related to me that I might have to whoop his head.
• 1:01:26
  I would be shocked if they don't know. I don't think that's accurate.
• 1:01:31
  So we're checking. I just can't. Okay. So Mr. Machine Gunner, go ahead.
• 1:01:35
  So the qualification itself was like, I think I forget the number of rounds
• 1:01:39
  and I don't know the number of rounds to qualify because I never adhered to that.
• 1:01:43
  I'm the ammo. You didn't list the rules? No, absolutely.
• 1:01:46
  I'm the ammo person. I'm going up there to qualify. So what,
• 1:01:50
  what is it? What do I do? I got 300 rounds linked together.
• 1:01:53
  I made my own link or whatever connected and I lit it up.
• 1:01:57
  Like I was probably going in, you know, 10 to 20 round burst,
• 1:02:01
  not how you're supposed to. Nope.
• 1:02:03
  As I get done firing, you couldn't see anything on the range.
• 1:02:08
  Like, there was dust everywhere.
• 1:02:10
  There was nothing. Like, I hit every little square foot on the range.
• 1:02:14
  And the Sergeant First Class that was in charge of the range at the time,
• 1:02:18
  the NCOIC, he comes by, stands behind me. He was like, we got one expert.
• 1:02:23
  And that is how I ended up in the helicopter.
• 1:02:27
  It is a true story. By having way too many rounds. Well, I hit everything.
• 1:02:31
  It doesn't matter. so children if you break the rules it does pay off sometimes
• 1:02:35
  yeah so your your theme song needs to be lawyers guns and money yeah there you go,
• 1:02:44
  but yeah so immediately after that it was they were
• 1:02:47
  like hey this is what we're doing when we're deploying you need to go you
• 1:02:50
  know to the helicopter training which this is all badass yeah
• 1:02:53
  i mean honestly that's pretty good and it's in hawaii so like
• 1:02:56
  you're i'm flying to the big island to shoot the uh
• 1:02:59
  240 off the door guns on the blackhawks
• 1:03:03
  and the chinooks and did you have to get aerosol to go no i
• 1:03:06
  did not really i'm actually surprised they closed the school what yeah
• 1:03:10
  in hawaii it was closed at the time interesting yeah yeah that was like what
• 1:03:14
  was going on in the world at the time uh iraq that was the only thing i don't
• 1:03:18
  remember that just a little bit yeah they closed the aerosol school and that
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  was like when i got hawaii as my duty station you know after coming out of AIT, all that stuff.
• 1:03:28
  I was supposed to go to 82nd to go to jump school.
• 1:03:32
  And as I'm getting like the orders for where I'm going is the same time you're
• 1:03:36
  filling out for jump school.
• 1:03:37
  And I got my orders to say, it said Schofield Barracks, Hawaii.
• 1:03:41
  And I literally just pushed the jump school paperwork.
• 1:03:44
  I was like, nah, I'll never be able to afford to go to Hawaii.
• 1:03:48
  We know this in the Army. If you get an assignment like that, you go.
• 1:03:52
  We're going to go back to your new theme song of slapping cheeks.
• 1:03:55
  Oh, there we go. With the hula. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  He's out there with the Samoans, my people, apparently. He thinks that I am
• 1:04:02
  and just dancing with the scrubs.
• 1:04:05
  They're bigger targets. They're easier to hit. I mean.
• 1:04:08
  I used to be skinny people. Except for the Mahus, the Mahus,
• 1:04:11
  man. Yeah, the Mahus are out there.
• 1:04:13
  No. They're deep in the safety brief every weekend. You can't fight with the Mahus, bro.
• 1:04:19
  There's so many people Googling a Mahu, like, right now. I'm like, what is that?
• 1:04:23
  What is that? Don't fuck with the Mahus. So what OIF did you go to? It was OIF 4-5.
• 1:04:32
  So we were out there at the same time. We've talked about that.
• 1:04:35
  There's a really good chance I was riding on your helicopter,
• 1:04:38
  which I think is hilarious. Absolutely.
• 1:04:40
  Small fucking world. It really is because like out there in theater or whatever,
• 1:04:45
  they're only flying a handful of helicopters. So I meet people all the time.
• 1:04:51
  Not all the time. Like, I guess more than I thought I should.
• 1:04:55
  And it's like, hey, they were on a helicopter at the same time I was out there.
• 1:04:58
  And it's like, wow, that is the smallest world ever. Well, hold on.
• 1:05:00
  If I remember a story, maybe I'm wrong. Could just be my old age writer.
• 1:05:06
  50. Bro, was it the Toby Keith story? What was it?
• 1:05:10
  You and I walked the dog on one flight that I was like, bro, I know—,
• 1:05:14
  I knew without a doubt we were on the same, I don't remember what it was.
• 1:05:18
  I'm not, I'm not even recalling that one. I mean, all you had to do was look
• 1:05:21
  for the biggest asshole that was on your, your chopper. And it was Eric.
• 1:05:25
  I looked a little different.
• 1:05:28
  He had no beard. I had a beard down on my belly button back then.
• 1:05:31
  Oh, did you? Yeah. The biggest douchebag on the helicopter. In a man dress.
• 1:05:36
  So the guy that looked like he was carrying weed to the people up there.
• 1:05:40
  He had a suitcase of money.
• 1:05:42
  That was Eric. Hawaiian shirt and a beard down to his stomach that's awesome
• 1:05:46
  but you know I had a cigar in my mouth he probably did always so what do you
• 1:05:51
  think I racked man pretty cool I it was cool if it wasn't like a prison for the most part,
• 1:05:57
  like the best part of it was every time you go outside the wire for me,
• 1:06:03
  I hated waiting you're not muted back there guy in the sky.
• 1:06:09
  The I hated the waiting game yeah I hated The helicopter and the moving the
• 1:06:15
  munitions through the helicopter was probably like my favorite part of it because
• 1:06:19
  I would literally go to every city in Iraq.
• 1:06:21
  The missions, you're talking two, three days where you're out on the helicopters.
• 1:06:25
  You know, you land in places. Our number one travel area was Missoula.
• 1:06:32
  There's definitely a lot going on in Missoula all the time, but they did have
• 1:06:36
  humidity and trees there.
• 1:06:37
  So it was always nice to visit that because the rest of Iraq was not.
• 1:06:41
  So clear something up here.
• 1:06:43
  Flight time to maintenance hours.
• 1:06:46
  I don't know those. Is it like two to one kind of thing? It's up there. It's pretty high.
• 1:06:51
  The amount of maintenance hours required for flight time, right?
• 1:06:54
  Absolutely. It's required more when you're not deployed, especially with the
• 1:07:00
  crew you're running with. It all depends on, you know, what cavalry unit you're
• 1:07:04
  flying with, on what rules they're actually going to follow there.
• 1:07:08
  That's cool. Oh, Roger. Hey, welcome to it. Yes. Hey, how are you guys doing?
• 1:07:13
  So you were talking about the war or Iraq. I don't know which one.
• 1:07:17
  The war for our generation.
• 1:07:19
  Yes. For your generation, because I'm a little younger. It's fine. Whatever.
• 1:07:23
  Did you get to Afghanistan, Anthony? No, I did not. I was in Iraq all of 2006 and all of 2007.
• 1:07:30
  The unit uh the 25th did deploy as i
• 1:07:33
  was getting out and i had the option to either deploy with them
• 1:07:36
  or get out which i chose the option to get out in my
• 1:07:40
  mind at the time that was my right decision six months after getting out i was
• 1:07:44
  back at a recruiter seeing if i could get back in hold on let me go to that
• 1:07:48
  and not not to poke holes in you or nothing like that but i'm gonna tell you
• 1:07:52
  so i know what i went through getting out because i didn't retire i didn't you
• 1:07:55
  know i got injured i got some other things.
• 1:07:59
  Did you struggle with it because it was hard to transition in or you,
• 1:08:03
  you just legitimately needed back in?
• 1:08:05
  Like, like, you know, some of it is just because it's a tough transition.
• 1:08:09
  We don't transition well.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah. It's, it was a combination of both.
• 1:08:13
  I, I originally got out. It was a, it was a toll on my mother of all people.
• 1:08:18
  Like I'm pretty sure she suffered the most from my deployments out of anybody in my family.
• 1:08:22
  So that was one of the key things to me getting out of the military and,
• 1:08:27
  going back in though yeah it was a transition thing it
• 1:08:30
  was like okay i go back to the workforce and i
• 1:08:33
  realize i'm not like the rest of the people that
• 1:08:36
  i'm working with and it made me feel like at a
• 1:08:38
  place or that i was working too hard doing
• 1:08:41
  what i was doing i was what'd you
• 1:08:45
  get out and do i got out so for about six
• 1:08:49
  months or eight months to a year i was restoring muscle cars
• 1:08:52
  which we were talking about cars earlier but after that i got
• 1:08:55
  a job doing construction which that just
• 1:08:58
  didn't work out for me you know it's very it was
• 1:09:01
  a low level construction job so i was basically a laborer and then
• 1:09:04
  i got into pest control and at this job it
• 1:09:06
  was like there's 35 other people that i'm working with and i was doing like
• 1:09:11
  the amount of stops of two people every single day and it was like for me i'm
• 1:09:16
  like hey you know like i don't i don't fit in here you know i don't understand
• 1:09:21
  why these people are complaining that they had to walk around the house to me it was just like.
• 1:09:26
  It's 200 feet. You just walk around the house the one time. So that was probably
• 1:09:32
  the biggest adjustment part.
• 1:09:34
  I did have an outlet, though, because I was a bouncer at the same time.
• 1:09:38
  So I got to use something. So you're busting skulls? Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  So I got to use that. How many squirrels did you kill? He's about to kill one at your house.
• 1:09:47
  Come on, dude. My squirrel count is way high, that's for sure.
• 1:09:51
  Hey, and if we're talking to Christy, we mean animals, not the other squirrels.
• 1:09:56
  Absolutely we didn't say beavers way to clarify i was saying that's wrong animal
• 1:10:01
  here come on i'm scared of his wife so i wouldn't clarify what we mean is really
• 1:10:06
  a squirrel that's legit a squirrel cousin of rat.
• 1:10:13
  Where'd you bounce i bounced at our in arlington there was a claret and ballroom
• 1:10:18
  i bounced there for a little while fun and it was cool because i was still kind
• 1:10:22
  of in like military shape so i was So he's the smallest bouncer.
• 1:10:25
  I'm kind of wondering if I might have gotten into a fight one night. I don't recall.
• 1:10:29
  Your jaw is still in one piece.
• 1:10:32
  No, it's not. I mean, like you might be a 6'8 Indian guy.
• 1:10:37
  I'm going to say this, and especially the younger Anthony, Anthony likes to squabble. Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:44
  So let's not even. So he was looking for a fight.
• 1:10:48
  I know Anthony well. I was Georgetown. I was Georgetown. I worked in Georgetown.
• 1:10:52
  I bounced. I bartended out there for a long time, but I was well before you
• 1:10:55
  were probably old enough to walk. Okay. All right.
• 1:10:59
  I enjoyed bouncing. It was also like an anti-drinking thing.
• 1:11:03
  You know, like if you're bouncing work and you're not really drinking.
• 1:11:06
  I don't really... That's why you didn't work in Georgetown. We used to drink
• 1:11:09
  at the door all the time. We were hammered. Snorting coke.
• 1:11:13
  That's no, sir. Joking, joking? No, sir. So, bro, when you finally decided to
• 1:11:17
  grow up and quit crushing skulls at a bar and you got tired of working,
• 1:11:22
  being one of the normal workers, like, bro, I'm going to tell you this.
• 1:11:25
  Starting your own business is not an easy thing.
• 1:11:28
  No, it's not. So where and how did you decide, I'm going to take this scary-ass
• 1:11:32
  step out and do this thing? It was...
• 1:11:38
  I found out the job I was working for, the managers were stealing from me.
• 1:11:41
  So when you convert that over, that would be like your NCOIC taking,
• 1:11:48
  you know, taking the day off while everybody's working.
• 1:11:51
  So when I found that out. That'd be like a hooker stealing from a pimp.
• 1:11:59
  Joking, choking, choking. But no, I, you know, discovering that and then I,
• 1:12:04
  you know, immediately myself, I'm going to call them out like,
• 1:12:07
  hey, you know, Can you just pay me the correct amount of money going forward?
• 1:12:10
  And the response I got there was, we're your managers. We should get that.
• 1:12:15
  And I was like, okay, here's my two-week notice. And they legit said.
• 1:12:20
  So their jaws are broken, and then you left.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, pretty much. That would have been my temperament at that point.
• 1:12:25
  I'd have been like, y'all can fucking kiss my balls.
• 1:12:27
  So, Anthony, I got like a serious question. Because a lot of veterans and first
• 1:12:33
  responders, especially veterans, I don't know first responders because I haven't been one.
• 1:12:40
  You know, we get sucked into the whole, I don't believe the military,
• 1:12:47
  especially the Marine Corps, maybe, maybe the army, Navy, Air Force has something different.
• 1:12:53
  I don't believe there is something that tells you to go and be an entrepreneur. I don't think it exists.
• 1:13:01
  No, it does not. And like, it drives me crazy. You get used to working for somebody. Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  And it tells you how to take orders real well. Exactly. Well,
• 1:13:08
  the thing is, though, is like there should be because the best people that can
• 1:13:12
  be entrepreneurs and start a business, I believe, are veterans.
• 1:13:15
  And my soul being, I believe, like, look, you know, if there's someone that's
• 1:13:20
  been in, they should have a program that, you know, it's not taps.
• 1:13:26
  It's teaching you how to be an entrepreneur, showing you how to do taxes,
• 1:13:31
  this, that, and the other.
• 1:13:32
  So my question is this, like being an entrepreneur coming, you know,
• 1:13:38
  as a veteran, what was your drive to do it?
• 1:13:44
  I think the military builds that part in for you. The ability to not quit, not give up.
• 1:13:50
  Embrace the suck. Yeah, get whatever you have to do, get it done.
• 1:13:54
  That helped me along the way. Making the decision for a lot of people is the
• 1:14:00
  scariest part, but I don't even think it needs to be scary. If you are an NCO
• 1:14:05
  in the military, you can lead whoever you need to.
• 1:14:09
  For the most part, there are some areas of the military where you don't learn stuff like that.
• 1:14:14
  But if you can lead troops into battle or if you can lead a squad or even if
• 1:14:19
  you can just lead a handful of people, inside of you, you have the ability to
• 1:14:24
  do what it takes to run a business.
• 1:14:27
  What are some of the cliffhangers or pitfalls?
• 1:14:34
  I was just going to ask, tell me a
• 1:14:37
  time or two when you just fucked up and something that
• 1:14:40
  a good lesson for people that want to go that route it's just
• 1:14:44
  honestly it's it's the
• 1:14:47
  every aspect of the business you're responsible
• 1:14:50
  for and that's where a lot of people fail to
• 1:14:53
  think uh like hey i can just start my business i'm going
• 1:14:56
  to do this but they want to work an eight
• 1:14:59
  hour day i think we were discussing exactly you're
• 1:15:02
  you're 24 7 yep because nobody cares
• 1:15:05
  about your business like you do except yeah yep and
• 1:15:08
  then as the business owner people just look at you like oh you're
• 1:15:11
  the business owner you have it easy and that's it's
• 1:15:14
  the complete opposite right like you're waking up before everybody
• 1:15:17
  you're going to bed after everybody because why they
• 1:15:19
  go home you still got a job to do and no matter what you do nobody
• 1:15:23
  understands what you're doing right i think i was i don't think i was running
• 1:15:26
  the business almost five years before my wife got involved with it she is my
• 1:15:30
  office manager does a great job at it better than you yeah way better I have
• 1:15:35
  to interrupt you on this because this is a, an important piece of.
• 1:15:41
  And we kind of talked about this, the Eric and Roger were on not that smart,
• 1:15:48
  not long ago. And we talked about this.
• 1:15:51
  And one of the things that the host was saying is like, you just can't quit.
• 1:15:55
  You have to have someone that supports you.
• 1:15:57
  Absolutely. And the thing is, is like when it comes to spouses and veterans,
• 1:16:02
  like spouses, if, if that spouse has been with you through thick and thin, you know, I can tell you.
• 1:16:11
  From my experience, I'm not a successful entrepreneur.
• 1:16:15
  I hope to be someday, right? I'm trying to start something.
• 1:16:19
  But I can tell you that my spouse has been there through thick and thin.
• 1:16:24
  And just because she does not, sometimes I get really discouraged because I
• 1:16:29
  feel like she's not supporting me sometimes. But I know she does.
• 1:16:33
  And I feel like that story probably exists with you.
• 1:16:37
  Cause you just said, okay, you know, like after five years, she really started
• 1:16:42
  pouring in and you might've had the same, that same feeling.
• 1:16:45
  And the thing is, is like, those stories are really important to talk about
• 1:16:50
  of, of being a veteran and an entrepreneur.
• 1:16:53
  It's not that they don't support you. It's maybe, you know, maybe it's something
• 1:16:58
  that's, that's different, that draws them into, to start supporting or whatever
• 1:17:02
  the case might be. Right.
• 1:17:03
  Cause I know like my spouse supports me through thick and thin.
• 1:17:08
  Some sometimes i i have that feeling that
• 1:17:10
  she doesn't and like have you had that feeling
• 1:17:13
  absolutely well i must speak for anthony real quick one
• 1:17:16
  of the things was so his wife had a phenomenal career
• 1:17:19
  over this very independent woman very smart
• 1:17:22
  had a great career and there was a conscientious decision
• 1:17:26
  where where family take care of the family and
• 1:17:29
  supporting your job that that she made that
• 1:17:32
  made the transition right absolutely yeah she she was
• 1:17:35
  a vp at a at a big bank no education no
• 1:17:38
  college degree is what i mean very very she
• 1:17:43
  graduated from the fourth grade of
• 1:17:46
  west virginia yes she she
• 1:17:50
  had a degree from third grade yeah pretty much
• 1:17:53
  though she herself is her own success
• 1:17:56
  story and it has nothing to do with
• 1:17:59
  anything other than hard work learn through
• 1:18:02
  adversity and i admire that of her she she
• 1:18:06
  like i said most people that are going to work at a
• 1:18:08
  bank or be a vp at a big big bank they're going to have multiple degrees she
• 1:18:14
  did it by getting getting done i would tell her all the time she should have
• 1:18:18
  joined the military because she would have been outstanding at it and she's
• 1:18:20
  like but i'm not strong and i'm like dude you are you're fucking headstrong
• 1:18:24
  like as hard as they come yeah you would have been fine and she's like.
• 1:18:29
  I don't know what people are picturing, but she is like this beautiful little bikini model.
• 1:18:33
  Like she is not. She was a card. She was like. Hold on. Can I say it?
• 1:18:36
  What's that? She was a card girl for a boxing ring, right?
• 1:18:39
  And all that. Yep. If that puts anything into perspective, she's a pretty lady.
• 1:18:43
  And you've been. Dear God, please do. I know you're outside.
• 1:18:47
  I know you're not catching a lot of the news because you're busy.
• 1:18:49
  First of all, you're in what I'd consider the trades work, right?
• 1:18:53
  And phenomenal for you because I don't think there's enough people that get
• 1:18:56
  into the trades. I think it's an opportunity like you did to own your own business,
• 1:19:00
  and I know what I got to pay.
• 1:19:02
  As soon as I have to call somebody to work on the house or whatever,
• 1:19:05
  man, I know what I got to pay.
• 1:19:06
  So the trades are phenomenal, like Mike Rowe and some of that other stuff,
• 1:19:10
  big supporters. Mike Rowe, badass.
• 1:19:12
  There's too many people out there with a college degree and no job when there's
• 1:19:17
  jobs that need to happen, and we need those people to have those jobs.
• 1:19:21
  So kudos to you. But going back to, I know you probably don't get a chance,
• 1:19:25
  a lot of chance to watch TV and stuff, but being that you were in Iraq,
• 1:19:29
  I have this ideology that with what's going on in Iran right now, right?
• 1:19:34
  We were talking earlier before you showed up. A lot of what we fought in Iraq was...
• 1:19:40
  Was from Iran, whether it was the IED that I got blown up by,
• 1:19:44
  whether it was the fighters, whether it was whatever, man.
• 1:19:48
  So I'm curious with what's going on, man. What are your thoughts?
• 1:19:51
  Not trying to get all political.
• 1:19:52
  I don't care whether you have a D or an R. I don't give a damn about any of
• 1:19:55
  that. But from your veteran perspective.
• 1:19:57
  You made that sound like swear words, by the way. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:00
  Giving your time over in Iraq and all that.
• 1:20:03
  What are you thinking about with what's going on in Iran? Something really curious.
• 1:20:07
  The only, my only answer for that is
• 1:20:11
  killable no no no let the
• 1:20:13
  paramedics sort him out no his answer is
• 1:20:16
  savage pest control yeah they need some pest
• 1:20:19
  control over there if i can't get put into
• 1:20:22
  the game i don't want to no and it's 100
• 1:20:25
  true i read i think
• 1:20:28
  it was about it was just before my vacation that
• 1:20:32
  they upped the enlistment age to 42 and if
• 1:20:35
  you called my wife right now she will do anything right
• 1:20:38
  now to get me not to enlist right because it's
• 1:20:41
  it's i see it happening and i know that like let's say i could get back in the
• 1:20:46
  military that i'd be helping people around me by being in the military no offense
• 1:20:50
  though i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you this from from being a older dude
• 1:20:54
  that valued my time in the military so i we hear a lot man if i could just go
• 1:20:59
  back in or man if i could just.
• 1:21:02
  As much as I respect our military, my son's in, I value the hell out of what he's doing.
• 1:21:06
  It's not the military you left, bro. Oh, I'm well aware. Not just your age,
• 1:21:11
  but do you think you could go back in? I don't think I could, bro.
• 1:21:15
  That's what I've been. I'm back to the same curiosity. Could I fucking do it
• 1:21:20
  again? And I know. You can also be bi-curious, too.
• 1:21:24
  We're not curious about that shit. Fast forward 50 years.
• 1:21:29
  I'm wondering. Once again, what do you keep asking me? Why not the Navy?
• 1:21:35
  Midges and by curiosity. So, yeah. Well, my thing is, I've been all the other
• 1:21:41
  places. I'm like, this is another OIF.
• 1:21:43
  It's just Iran versus Iraq. And that'd be cool as hell to be there.
• 1:21:46
  And going back to my original statement, that was where half the problems we
• 1:21:51
  were fighting in Iraq were coming from anyway.
• 1:21:54
  Absolutely. We weren't necessarily just fighting Iraq. A lot of that was Iran.
• 1:21:57
  A hundred percent. And so I would love to go in there and just wreak havoc.
• 1:22:02
  Yeah. Going to my service dog's name and wreak havoc. You know what I mean?
• 1:22:05
  Yeah, that'd be awesome.
• 1:22:07
  Yeah, no, my thoughts on it are strictly, you know, geared towards the people
• 1:22:11
  who are going to deploy or, you know, whatever happens. Red Friday.
• 1:22:15
  And how best they can be helped.
• 1:22:18
  And in my eyes, what you said, the military is different. So you have a gap
• 1:22:24
  of the not so different military and the different military.
• 1:22:28
  And if, you know, if you got the right troops in place, you know,
• 1:22:31
  that's great. For me, it's, can I help anybody?
• 1:22:34
  And that's, that was my only thought on the whole situation.
• 1:22:37
  Hey, Anthony, let me ask you this.
• 1:22:38
  Do you have a son? Yes, I do.
• 1:22:41
  Cool son. Does Eric, do you have a son? My son's in the Army.
• 1:22:45
  Roger, do you have a son? I do. How old are your sons?
• 1:22:50
  Mine's 13. Okay. God, I don't want to get this wrong. 26, 27.
• 1:22:55
  And Roger? He just screwed up. Mine's 29. Is your son serving military service? He is not.
• 1:23:02
  Eric, yours is. Yes, sir. And Anthony? I can almost.
• 1:23:07
  Do you believe yours will? I can almost guarantee I won't put that on him and
• 1:23:11
  I never tell him what to do, but he, I guess just, I don't know if it's,
• 1:23:16
  yeah, he, he loves to shoot.
• 1:23:19
  He loves to be outside. Very physical person.
• 1:23:22
  And I'm going to say this, Andy emulates his daddy. Let me ask you this.
• 1:23:27
  Anthony, what generation did your family serve?
• 1:23:32
  Like Vietnam, World War II, World War I? uh for
• 1:23:35
  me it was my the only other person in my
• 1:23:39
  family that was military was my grandfather he was world
• 1:23:42
  war ii marine corps too yeah yeah so
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  roger yours was eric you yeah all
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  the way back and my dad vietnam yep and yep now now the reason why i bring that
• 1:23:54
  up is um because you know we we look at you know what we believe in and what
• 1:24:01
  we should fight for like i i strongly believe even and I don't want it. I mean, my son's 10.
• 1:24:07
  I know he's going to go to war. I just...
• 1:24:11
  It is in our genes. Like my great-grandfather, my grandfather,
• 1:24:16
  my dad, myself, we went to war.
• 1:24:19
  And it's the same thing with everybody here.
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  And, you know, it's really the optic that you look at it of like,
• 1:24:29
  okay, you know, we're the ones that are fighting this, the 1%.
• 1:24:35
  And you look at the 99% that don't.
• 1:24:40
  And it's that optic is
• 1:24:43
  very uh when you take a
• 1:24:46
  step back it's very hard to look at that because
• 1:24:49
  it's always been that it's always been
• 1:24:52
  that and um you know it's it's
• 1:24:55
  surreal to look at it and it's also good it's
• 1:24:59
  also good because we know where our families are you
• 1:25:02
  know how we believe you know they they follow us you
• 1:25:06
  know i i followed my dad never wanted me
• 1:25:09
  to to do anything in fact i didn't even tell him i joined the marine
• 1:25:12
  corps you know when when i when i graduated boot camp he showed up i didn't
• 1:25:17
  even know we knew because i didn't tell him he didn't want me to do that you
• 1:25:22
  know and i called mine after i enlisted yeah and and the thing is is like i
• 1:25:28
  went to the The recruiter then called him and said, I'm leaving.
• 1:25:31
  It's surreal that there's a few that really goes forth that is driven in their genes.
• 1:25:41
  Driven in their genes to protect the many.
• 1:25:46
  And it's something that no one really talks about. No one really talks about.
• 1:25:51
  You know, we always see on LinkedIn. We always see on Facebook.
• 1:25:54
  We see on TikTok. We see on Twitter, you know, the person that sacrificed,
• 1:25:59
  the person that got a medal, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:26:01
  But no one ever talks about the 1%.
• 1:26:04
  And, you know, the 1% that actually goes and does it. It doesn't matter if they die.
• 1:26:10
  It doesn't matter if they lose a limb or get injured. but it's the 1% that actually
• 1:26:15
  goes and fucking does it, man. And that's incredible.
• 1:26:19
  That's, that's fucking incredible to me. It's incredible.
• 1:26:24
  And no one talks about that shit. A guy in the sky, let me ask you a question, man.
• 1:26:29
  We're just talking about Iran and, and, and after watching the stuff in Russia
• 1:26:33
  and things like that, bro, I'm going to tell you this.
• 1:26:36
  This is one of the things I will say, you know, as bad as Iraq,
• 1:26:39
  Afghanistan, any of that other stuff was, we at least at the time had air supremacy.
• 1:26:45
  Brother, one of the things I can't fathom that's going on right now,
• 1:26:49
  can you imagine having to worry about drones? I will tell you that.
• 1:26:53
  Like, I didn't have to worry about that. I have no problem saying I had to worry
• 1:26:57
  about what was around the corner, what was behind the door, what would go boom.
• 1:27:00
  But I didn't have to worry about what was flying over or dropping you.
• 1:27:03
  Look, man, I can tell you there was one time I had to do a stint in Syria and
• 1:27:08
  we did not have air supremacy. Yeah, but did you have drones?
• 1:27:13
  Like that's a whole nother, even a whole nother. Oh, dude, we had a 500-pound
• 1:27:17
  bomb drop on our house and skipped off.
• 1:27:22
  And, you know, went into a field. But whenever you heard a plane coming over you.
• 1:27:27
  You duck a little, get a little. No, you didn't know who it was.
• 1:27:31
  Was it the Turks? Was it Iranian? Was it Russian?
• 1:27:34
  He had no fucking idea because of the way the whole, everything was working in Syria at that time.
• 1:27:40
  Like, and that's fucking scary, dude. Can you imagine, seriously,
• 1:27:44
  like, even with what they're doing with some of these drones of swarming and
• 1:27:47
  some of that. It's crazy.
• 1:27:49
  Like, having to think about that while you're also clearing houses and doing all the other.
• 1:27:55
  Nope, shit. I'm over here mind blown because I didn't even consider this.
• 1:27:59
  Like, just the thought of having drones, like, whether you're on a helicopter, the ground.
• 1:28:05
  Oh, dude. Imagine what they did to you on that thing, right?
• 1:28:06
  You just made him reconsider the age range.
• 1:28:08
  Where was your focus when you were in a helicopter it was always on the ground
• 1:28:14
  you're looking for flashes on the roofs on that whatever else going on it's different warfare now,
• 1:28:21
  air missiles not fucking drones coming from the sky good on these kids I wouldn't
• 1:28:27
  enjoy that part you know I have good faith in the navy and the airport.
• 1:28:36
  They're gonna make that a non non thing
• 1:28:39
  that you have to worry is it slapping cheeks faith i
• 1:28:42
  will tell
• 1:28:46
  you this though you talking about softening the battle space i mean they're
• 1:28:50
  doing a phenomenal job with that i mean the sheer amount of targets they've
• 1:28:54
  taken up absolutely amazing yep and and there's nothing better than our military
• 1:28:58
  even in in iraq like when you're going through the cities the towns wherever
• 1:29:03
  you're at going through it,
• 1:29:05
  just seeing the sheer destruction that like a Navy destroyer can do from the
• 1:29:10
  ocean a long distance away.
• 1:29:12
  They can, they can take out bunkers. They can do whatever it is.
• 1:29:15
  So that's why I say I got faith in that.
• 1:29:17
  Like I've, I've seen it firsthand what, what they do with those bunker busters
• 1:29:21
  and whether it's from a plane or a ship.
• 1:29:24
  So Anthony, like, like you said, your son's 13 now, right? Yeah.
• 1:29:29
  You know, my son's 10 and it doesn't matter. like to know like it doesn't matter
• 1:29:36
  how good their grades are it doesn't matter none of that,
• 1:29:41
  To know deep down, because you said when he came in here tonight,
• 1:29:44
  when we first spoke, you know he's going to go into military.
• 1:29:49
  I have the same feeling about my son. It doesn't matter.
• 1:29:54
  But it still matters because that's how you know it's in their character to strive for the best.
• 1:29:59
  Well, that's what I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at.
• 1:30:02
  It's like the majority of the American public, they don't understand this drive.
• 1:30:09
  This drive like you know when anthony said
• 1:30:12
  that he was you know and on 9-11 he saw this shit and you know it happened for
• 1:30:17
  him it clicked and he went you know um you know it's it's it's basically in
• 1:30:23
  our genes like there there is multiple generations that go and they fight wars,
• 1:30:31
  for whoever the wars are for here.
• 1:30:35
  And that should mean something to people because it's going to happen.
• 1:30:41
  I made a joke a long time ago, multiple times, and I'm kind of ashamed of it.
• 1:30:48
  Like when I was in Kandahar, we'd go to this fucking...
• 1:30:55
  You know, palace or not palace, but compound. And I would use,
• 1:30:59
  I would make the joke of like, you know what?
• 1:31:01
  I'm going to write dad was here because I know my, I felt at the time,
• 1:31:06
  like my son's going to be here.
• 1:31:08
  And like to, to have that feeling, to know that, you know what? My son's going to serve.
• 1:31:13
  There's just no way he's not going to, there's no way he's not going to serve.
• 1:31:18
  It doesn't matter what education he has. It doesn't matter how good he is at athletics.
• 1:31:23
  There's just no way he's going to end up here.
• 1:31:28
  Like that burden of weight that a lot of the American, like 1% of the American
• 1:31:35
  populace has on us, like that's crazy.
• 1:31:40
  It's crazy. And then the 99% that doesn't honor that, it's just nuts to me.
• 1:31:45
  Guy, can I tell you this though, man? If your kid goes in. He's going to.
• 1:31:49
  If when, all right? He will.
• 1:31:53
  One more time. It will. So, I will tell you this, watching my kid,
• 1:31:59
  man, it's interesting because I deployed non-stop, never thought two seconds about it.
• 1:32:05
  I knew my family was taken care of. I knew what to do. I knew,
• 1:32:09
  like, not a worry in the world.
• 1:32:12
  My son deployed. I was a wreck. Yeah.
• 1:32:16
  Bro. You know, that's a question I was going to ask. Is that your son joining,
• 1:32:19
  does it terrify you or does it make you proud?
• 1:32:22
  Yeah, all of it. And here's the problem. So, one, my recollection from my military
• 1:32:28
  time is when I was senior enough that I could influence my own decision making.
• 1:32:33
  And I love our military, but not all leaders are created equal.
• 1:32:37
  So then I get in my mind. I'm like, what happens if he gets a bad leader?
• 1:32:40
  What happens of this? What happens of that?
• 1:32:42
  And the whole time I'm going, I can't protect him. I want to be there.
• 1:32:46
  Like, to Anthony's point, I was even starting to look at age waivers and things
• 1:32:50
  going, no, fuck that. I need to go over there.
• 1:32:52
  Not because he can't do it, but I need to be because I'm his dad.
• 1:32:56
  And so then he deploys. And, I mean, even in basic training,
• 1:33:00
  I was worried about, oh, what if, dude, and this is so silly.
• 1:33:03
  I was like, what if people don't like him? What if he's struggling today doing PT?
• 1:33:07
  And I'm like, this is so gay. This is stupid. What am I worried?
• 1:33:10
  I went through the millions of people go through the same thing.
• 1:33:13
  I did it. He's going to be fine. What do you think? But the parents went through, right?
• 1:33:17
  But I'm going to tell you this. I came back to your point of what,
• 1:33:20
  what, you know, military service did your mom. And,
• 1:33:25
  I went to Iraq a number of times, way too many.
• 1:33:29
  One of my trips, I redeployed. So I was in Korea, deployed to Iraq for a year, went back to Korea.
• 1:33:36
  My mom had to send my dad to Korea because he had PTSD watching Fox News of me being over in Iraq.
• 1:33:43
  Like literally, like it stressed him the hell out to where she actually sent
• 1:33:47
  him to Korea to decompress to be with me and to see I was alive.
• 1:33:52
  Like because he just whatever happened to your your mom my dad went through
• 1:33:57
  that because he he could not break away from fox news he could not he was living
• 1:34:01
  war every day and he wasn't there he should have just changed it to cnn it would have been fine yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Msnbc you know something something different well i mean look eric here's the deal dude,
• 1:34:16
  You can go back 2,000 years. Warriors are warriors. Warriors are bred in the warrior's families.
• 1:34:23
  You go back to the Romans, the Greeks, the Vikings.
• 1:34:29
  You have a warrior within those cultures.
• 1:34:35
  The son and sometimes even the daughter becomes a warrior in that culture.
• 1:34:41
  And the thing is, it's all about us accepting all that. You know,
• 1:34:46
  and I have a hard time accepting.
• 1:34:47
  I know, I know for a fact, like my son is fucking smart.
• 1:34:53
  He's like the 99 percentile in math, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:34:57
  But I know, I know, I know he is going to end up in a war.
• 1:35:03
  I know it in my bones. I feel it in my bones.
• 1:35:06
  I know it's going to happen because that's, that's just where he comes from.
• 1:35:10
  I think this guy just said he's going, his son is going to go Air Force.
• 1:35:13
  He's smart. that's that's hard you will never go airfield that's i'm gonna tell
• 1:35:19
  you never go i'm not there's nothing against the air force guy but that ain't
• 1:35:23
  gonna happen you the amount of stress that'll put on you not him on you is going
• 1:35:30
  to be interesting to hear about because i'm telling you what i went.
• 1:35:34
  I've lived that world, and I've led many people in that world.
• 1:35:38
  But the lack of control you have over your kid being, and having to sit the
• 1:35:43
  sideline listening to it here and here, the mentality of every parent.
• 1:35:48
  But you're also proud of him. Yeah, that's the mentality of every parent,
• 1:35:52
  right? Anything your kid does, military or not, if they join the National Guard,
• 1:35:57
  as you were making fun of earlier, or go Air Force, which if your son's smart, that's a good call.
• 1:36:03
  Everybody's going to worry about it like you going over and you going through basic training
• 1:36:06
  then being deployed it's you you can give a
• 1:36:09
  fuck what's going to happen as soon as it's your kid
• 1:36:12
  you're like wait so so roger that was cool with this hey and you've seen the
• 1:36:16
  size of my kid it's not like the boy can handle his own well so like here's
• 1:36:22
  here's the interesting thing about it is and i don't i don't think there is
• 1:36:27
  a statistic out there but i would love to see it if that happened.
• 1:36:30
  So they always say the 1% of us go and, you know, serve.
• 1:36:36
  I would like to know, okay, of that 1% who serves after that and that generation.
• 1:36:42
  And, and, and I would love to see that because I really feel like it's probably
• 1:36:47
  the 1% of that 1%. Like I, I think it is.
• 1:36:52
  And the number definitely gets smaller quick. Yeah. And, and I,
• 1:36:56
  I absolutely think that is.
• 1:36:58
  And the thing, the whole part about it, the whole reason why I bring that up
• 1:37:03
  is, you know what, like, you know, with Anthony and you, Eric and Roger,
• 1:37:09
  like you serve in a different way and your family serves in a different way.
• 1:37:15
  We need to be aware of that. And like, we need to honor that.
• 1:37:18
  Like when I look at my son, no shit. He's 10.
• 1:37:23
  When I look at him, because I, I have such a strong feeling that I know he's going to go and serve.
• 1:37:31
  You know, I look at him in a different way with that. You know,
• 1:37:34
  I look at him and I'm just like, man, you know, you're, you're either going
• 1:37:39
  to die or not going to die, but I know you're going to serve.
• 1:37:41
  And I, I see that in a different light.
• 1:37:45
  And like, you know, what is the whole statistic behind it?
• 1:37:50
  I don't know if we'll ever know that. I really don't. Yeah, it's hard to quantify
• 1:37:54
  in any way, shape, or form.
• 1:37:55
  I would also say that whatever that magical statistic is,
• 1:38:01
  it's going to be a lot higher post the Vietnam era to where we are now as veterans
• 1:38:07
  solely because Americans nowadays,
• 1:38:11
  they're way more supportive of veterans.
• 1:38:14
  So I think the number would be higher because it's now. 100%. Yeah, that's very true.
• 1:38:18
  Versus Vietnam, yeah. What did we start with? Like, we have a hero here.
• 1:38:22
  That didn't happen back in the 70s. It was frowned upon.
• 1:38:25
  So the percent of siblings joining, I would say.
• 1:38:28
  100%. You know what's funny? The last guest we had on recently,
• 1:38:31
  he was a Vietnam vet. Big Mac.
• 1:38:34
  Eric's comment to him not only was thank you for your service, but welcome home.
• 1:38:38
  Because of the non-welcoming they got. It's vastly different today for anybody
• 1:38:42
  that's in the military versus what happened back then. And I think that is very valuable. That's huge.
• 1:38:46
  The support is always there. I remember my flight home on leave very vividly,
• 1:38:52
  like coming home on leave from Iraq was one free drinks, like outstanding.
• 1:38:57
  Like I was completely drunk getting off the plane.
• 1:39:00
  And I didn't have to pay for none of it. And the applause that you got walking
• 1:39:04
  through, like coming off a flight, not just like a handful of people.
• 1:39:08
  You're talking about a whole flight of soldiers coming off.
• 1:39:11
  Like the applause, the standing ovation. Like it's.
• 1:39:14
  Was that in Newfoundland or whatever?
• 1:39:18
  No, seriously. No, that was actually, I want to say, I want to say it was Atlanta
• 1:39:23
  airport, but it could have been.
• 1:39:25
  It could have been. So there's an airport that you, we had to,
• 1:39:29
  to cross through, I think it was Newfoundland and it was different depending
• 1:39:34
  on who you came back with.
• 1:39:36
  Well, I mean, like, like going across the Atlanta for us, like from the Iraq
• 1:39:42
  war or Afghanistan war, whatever.
• 1:39:45
  And there was always, always support there. And I think it might've been Newfoundland.
• 1:39:52
  I think it might've been Newfoundland. and you
• 1:39:55
  know after that we go to bwi dulles there's nothing but
• 1:39:59
  like in newfoundland i'm pretty sure that's where it was
• 1:40:02
  where we we came across the atlantic we landed and
• 1:40:06
  it was always just like there were 80 year old people vietnam vets there were
• 1:40:13
  their wives and everybody was just like thank thank you you know and hugging
• 1:40:18
  us well let me tell you the the vietnam experience i head, honestly, coming back from Iraq.
• 1:40:24
  So I told you when I deployed from Korea to Iraq for a year,
• 1:40:28
  that was the first deployment that was, you're going from one hardship tour
• 1:40:33
  to another and then back and then they reset your clock.
• 1:40:36
  Well, what was going on in Korea at the time, they were anti-war.
• 1:40:39
  So when I flew back to Korea, they were spitting on us, throwing shit at us
• 1:40:43
  and doing all kinds of things.
• 1:40:44
  You talking about getting in your head, that was very reminiscent.
• 1:40:47
  So when Mac was talking, that was going through my head because they wanted
• 1:40:51
  us off the peninsula and were treating us like shit coming back from Iraq.
• 1:40:55
  I thought spitting on you was a sign of good faith over there.
• 1:40:59
  That's terrible, Derek. I made light of it because it's gotten really serious
• 1:41:03
  in the podcast recently.
• 1:41:04
  But that's a shitty situation to go into, especially in Europe.
• 1:41:10
  But actually, so the compelling thing for me was I grew up with Vietnam stuff, right?
• 1:41:14
  Like I was just infatuated watching anything Vietnam because at my age,
• 1:41:19
  that was the war to learn from, see.
• 1:41:22
  And I just, I loved anything dealing with uniform service, whether it was law
• 1:41:25
  enforcement, fire, and so loved it.
• 1:41:29
  So the neat thing about it was I actually took it as a positive because it was
• 1:41:33
  interesting for me. I got to feel a little bit of what they felt like when not
• 1:41:38
  meaning to not trying to make more of it than it was, you know,
• 1:41:41
  cause it's not like coming to your home.
• 1:41:43
  Fortunately, you weren't coming to your home country. I was about to say,
• 1:41:45
  but it was still kind of like, well, this fucking sucks.
• 1:41:50
  Well, fuck you too. I'll spit back bitches.
• 1:41:53
  But Hey, let's, let's talk about a baller homecoming real quick.
• 1:41:57
  How, how, how about, how about the pilot man that, that got rescued in Iran, bro.
• 1:42:02
  So it made me think of you a little bit. little bit being a crew chief, right?
• 1:42:06
  Like, so I actually heard a really interesting thing, guy. I'm real curious
• 1:42:09
  what you think about this. So I heard this from a POW.
• 1:42:14
  He heard the story and he got pissed and thrilled at the same time.
• 1:42:18
  He said it was a weird thing of emotions. I was sitting there going, what?
• 1:42:21
  And come to find out what he said was super excited that that dude didn't have
• 1:42:26
  to go through the capture of the POW piece and that, but mad because he started thinking about,
• 1:42:32
  so if the will of the president is by any means necessary, we're going to do this. It can happen.
• 1:42:39
  What about me? And I was like, holy shit. I knew you were going with that.
• 1:42:43
  And I just went through my head like, that fucking sucks. That's a terrible feeling.
• 1:42:47
  And he felt guilty because he was like, on one hand, I'm just thrilled for this
• 1:42:51
  guy. And I want to be the other hand.
• 1:42:53
  Fuck that. What about me? Yeah. And so if the different administration or if
• 1:42:58
  I was the focus, I wouldn't have been through that.
• 1:43:01
  I was like, holy hell. I'm going to tell you, man.
• 1:43:05
  I like Eric and Roger. I've told you guys both. I don't like getting political
• 1:43:10
  on shit, but I'm going to get political now.
• 1:43:12
  Oh, I wasn't trying to go there. I was just talking generalities.
• 1:43:16
  But look, look, you asked.
• 1:43:19
  Did I? I made a statement. I made a statement. You asked his thoughts.
• 1:43:22
  This is on you, Eric. This is all I did. I said, guy in the sky.
• 1:43:26
  No, you said, I'm interested to hear what you said. What you think,
• 1:43:30
  guy. Here we go. You're right.
• 1:43:32
  I will tell you that the last, administration, I would not have trusted anything.
• 1:43:40
  Not in a million years if I had gotten captured or I shot down or anything on the ground.
• 1:43:48
  There's just no fucking way because we, I mean, the proof's in the pudding on that.
• 1:43:53
  We left our allies that we had worked with for years.
• 1:43:59
  You know, the, the fact that we went there and we did this, we lost three aircraft,
• 1:44:05
  four aircraft to get our pilot says a lot, like hundreds of millions of dollars
• 1:44:12
  down the drain to get our people back. For the right cause.
• 1:44:16
  That's for the right cause. Like, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:44:20
  Like, that, like that gives like, personally, that gives me.
• 1:44:25
  If I was one of those people, I would be thinking, okay.
• 1:44:29
  Guy, what does this do? These motherfuckers have my back. What does it do for the warrior mentality?
• 1:44:34
  It's straight morale. When you know you got a president that will go,
• 1:44:37
  by any means necessary, pull your ass out.
• 1:44:39
  You will go in fighting harder than you ever would have. It's 100%.
• 1:44:44
  Makes you much stronger.
• 1:44:46
  Because then you don't care. I'll go into anything because I know this guy's got me.
• 1:44:50
  Yep. Like, like anybody can say anything about whatever, however many hundred
• 1:44:55
  millions of dollars, whatever. Like, dude, fuck off.
• 1:45:00
  Like the human capital was worth the fucking equipment capital like tenfold.
• 1:45:08
  And, you know, I don't feel confident that the last administration would have done that.
• 1:45:14
  I just don't think that would have happened. I'm just jealous because I know
• 1:45:19
  it sounds horrible and stupid, but I alluded to it earlier.
• 1:45:22
  Just to be able to get boots on the ground in the country that basically,
• 1:45:26
  even I fought in proxies, and to be able to go there, and just,
• 1:45:32
  to me, it's baller as hell.
• 1:45:34
  They got to go there, pull this dude out, and we just owned their asses for a little while.
• 1:45:39
  We owned them. I hope they planted flags and left them, U.S.
• 1:45:43
  Flags. now look dude we didn't only
• 1:45:46
  own them like you know it was well beyond that like we went into their country
• 1:45:53
  we smacked their cheeks slapping cheeks slapping cheeks buddy rocket slapping
• 1:46:03
  the cheeks no wait wait we're gonna do this probably.
• 1:46:16
  All right, guy, you've got to get approval to use that as the intro of the song
• 1:46:19
  for Eric as he's announcing the show. Slap and cheeks.
• 1:46:22
  But Anthony, how polar would that be?
• 1:46:25
  Be a crew chief on a helicopter going into fucking Iran. Seriously.
• 1:46:28
  Oh, man, the adrenaline pump there. That would have been awesome,
• 1:46:31
  seriously. Outstanding.
• 1:46:33
  And outstanding in a way where I don't care what drug you do or what job you do.
• 1:46:39
  There is nothing that is going to replace that feeling for the Black Hawk going in there.
• 1:46:45
  Or the fighter whatever it is or if you're in your tricycle so just going in
• 1:46:49
  there there's nothing that's going to replace that no i get it that vibe that
• 1:46:53
  you got as you're doing that mentality biggest natural high you'll ever have
• 1:46:57
  absolutely look anthony i gotta i have to say this because,
• 1:47:02
  like we used to use you know whenever we went and did any target or whatever
• 1:47:08
  sometimes we would use whatever the reservist units,
• 1:47:13
  the reservist units that was with us, we would go.
• 1:47:17
  And, you know, most of the times they performed well, but the 160th, soar.
• 1:47:25
  Bro, bro. I remember one specific time that they came in, we infilled,
• 1:47:34
  we exfilled, and then they had to fly all the way back to Bagram. This is in Afghanistan.
• 1:47:41
  And, you know, we exfilled. They dropped us off. We were like, oh, good mission.
• 1:47:46
  We didn't know that they were flying through these fucking valleys,
• 1:47:52
  and they got shot up and hit the gunner in the neck.
• 1:47:58
  And nobody knew about that. Nobody knew about that.
• 1:48:02
  I mean, we heard about it the next day, but the news doesn't hear about that,
• 1:48:06
  of these fucking crews that go out and just...
• 1:48:13
  They're, it doesn't matter. It's the job. Yeah.
• 1:48:16
  And they fly through this shit and they fucking go, man.
• 1:48:21
  It doesn't matter if they get hit. They just go. The guy lived.
• 1:48:25
  The guy lived. But he got shot in the fucking neck, dude.
• 1:48:29
  And like people don't understand that when they hear air crew.
• 1:48:34
  Exactly. They don't understand that with Blackhawk air crew,
• 1:48:37
  Chinook air crew. Especially Chinook because they fly so slow.
• 1:48:42
  You know what I mean? not this not the 160 well no
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  i'm talking i will tell you those motherfuckers will go
• 1:48:48
  i'll tell you so flying a lot on helicopters
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  that is i i always call it and i still do the magic school bus the chanel like
• 1:48:56
  that's literally what it makes me think of they are the fastest helicopters
• 1:48:59
  i got out there like them things do not play dude they're fucking they will
• 1:49:03
  leave the apache like i i can't even tell you how many times we would have to
• 1:49:07
  slow down to wait for our apaches to catch up to us.
• 1:49:11
  And that's when you pass them more than a mile. But the Chinook, it rolls.
• 1:49:16
  The Black Hawk is a little bit sluggish. I will say this.
• 1:49:21
  The Chinooks, even with armor, even with fucking armor in the floor,
• 1:49:27
  they fucking go, man. Yeah, they go.
• 1:49:29
  I will say this. I got the opportunity to go back to Iraq as a civilian working in the government.
• 1:49:33
  And they picked me up in an Osprey and I was legitimately pissed.
• 1:49:37
  I was like... And here's why, don't get me wrong.
• 1:49:41
  They've come a long way, but in those days, they were going down like flies, literally.
• 1:49:46
  And I was legitimately pissed going, what did I do to serve them?
• 1:49:50
  It was cool as hell, no problems. But at the end of the day,
• 1:49:53
  I was mad. I was like, what the hell?
• 1:49:55
  Well, I mean, my whole point in saying that to Anthony is like air crews and
• 1:50:02
  anybody that man's air shit,
• 1:50:05
  Y'all don't get enough credit. And it, like, it, like, you just don't.
• 1:50:11
  Like, nobody, the American public, nobody knew about this dude after he dropped
• 1:50:18
  us off after a successful mission, hitting a legitimate Al-Qaeda target.
• 1:50:24
  Going home to Bagram gets shot in the neck. Nobody hears about that. Yeah, no.
• 1:50:29
  And you know what? Like, y'all are heroes.
• 1:50:33
  Y'all are fucking heroes. We were all being mad at them for wearing Nomex pajamas.
• 1:50:39
  By the rest of us. Fucking warriors, man. You know, I would push that same statement
• 1:50:45
  to any gunner on any military vehicle.
• 1:50:49
  Because if you ever hear a story, it's the Humvee got blown up.
• 1:50:54
  It's not we went through three gunners going down the street
• 1:50:56
  yeah so it's it's it's not just an air crew
• 1:51:00
  yeah um it would be any because when you
• 1:51:02
  get behind that machine gun no matter what
• 1:51:05
  it's on you're an automatic target i don't care what
• 1:51:08
  war you're usually more exposed than the average you're
• 1:51:11
  more exposed you are the light at night that's where
• 1:51:13
  all bullets are going yeah the any any machine gun
• 1:51:16
  get everybody oh i want to shoot a machine gun and for
• 1:51:19
  me it was the same way it's like oh they're gonna let me shoot a fucking gun off helicopter
• 1:51:22
  outstanding like i was so excited about
• 1:51:25
  it but then at the same time when it
• 1:51:28
  comes down to it you are the target the
• 1:51:31
  helicopter moving is your action like
• 1:51:34
  the enemy's actual target but the what they're aiming
• 1:51:37
  at is the light from from the muzzle flash whatever it
• 1:51:40
  is and it it's it's pretty bright and it doesn't matter
• 1:51:43
  whether like i said if you're on a 50 cal on top
• 1:51:46
  of humvee lmtv doesn't matter it has
• 1:51:49
  no the machine gun role has you know
• 1:51:52
  no no bias on vehicle itself well i i mean specifically air crew gunners and
• 1:52:00
  air crew they don't get enough shout outs man absolutely and like the amount
• 1:52:06
  of times they pulled my ass out and, you know, anybody I was with,
• 1:52:11
  like, I remember infilling and then, you know, the.
• 1:52:16
  Any motorcycle that was coming on target while we're infilling is a target.
• 1:52:21
  And these motherfuckers just lighten them up because they were coming to kill us. Yeah.
• 1:52:27
  You know, and they protected us. And like, nobody gives enough credit.
• 1:52:32
  Like there's so many big warriors that no one even hears about, man.
• 1:52:39
  You always hear about, which you should,
• 1:52:42
  you always hear about these, these warriors on the
• 1:52:44
  ground whether they're seals or sf or marsoc
• 1:52:48
  or recon or whatever doesn't matter who who
• 1:52:51
  they're from but you never hear about the warriors in the air
• 1:52:54
  you never fucking hear about it and like
• 1:52:58
  those warriors kept us infill safe
• 1:53:01
  and exfil safe and you know
• 1:53:04
  it was the most important part of the battle both outstanding
• 1:53:09
  i like it it's been interesting we go from little
• 1:53:12
  people wrestling to very serious conversation about uh gunners and and and how
• 1:53:17
  they can take it so anthony let's finish off with something man what's the next
• 1:53:21
  chapter what's what success look like what are we moving into we'll see what
• 1:53:25
  the recruiter says went after hey after your wife dimes you out and you don't get a sign up.
• 1:53:32
  For for me and this this might make you feel really good we're we're looking
• 1:53:38
  into georgia I absolutely am.
• 1:53:44
  Not just the hunt. You went on the CJ3 hunt. I did. And it literally.
• 1:53:49
  Slaying deer. Why Georgia? Why Georgia? Because have you ever,
• 1:53:53
  like, when you go to Georgia, and we just did this again, we just drove through
• 1:53:56
  Georgia to get to Pensacola.
• 1:53:59
  In your RV. In my RV with all children. And everybody should be cursing at us everywhere we go.
• 1:54:04
  Because I got some spoiled kids, for sure.
• 1:54:08
  Like, they're just, you know, they're well taken care of and they act like it.
• 1:54:12
  But everywhere we went people are so nice and
• 1:54:15
  like my conversation with my wife was i
• 1:54:19
  wish that people in different areas
• 1:54:21
  could act like people from georgia like the
• 1:54:24
  most polite people and it's not because they're they're you
• 1:54:28
  know got a lot of money it's it's the people that you're working
• 1:54:31
  you're interacting can i make a correction yeah there's georgia
• 1:54:34
  then there's atlanta yeah we're not counting it
• 1:54:37
  we're talking about outside of there but it it's true atlanta was fuck atlanta
• 1:54:42
  we we i had a good time in a while we went to a braves game which was outstanding
• 1:54:46
  wait wait i have a i have a sound effect for atlanta here it comes ready oh
• 1:54:51
  wait wait wait i gotta find it first no no wait no no Oh.
• 1:54:59
  That is Atlanta because there are flags. Yeah.
• 1:55:03
  There it is. There we go. I will say this.
• 1:55:08
  The other cool thing, Anthony talked about going through our mental health and
• 1:55:10
  wellness facility in Iowa, which was cool as hell that he went.
• 1:55:13
  But then kind of on the fun side, right, which is funny because it kind of leads
• 1:55:18
  in. A lot of people think, oh, it's just play.
• 1:55:20
  You're going out to do this outdoor activity, whatever.
• 1:55:23
  And for us, every year we do a whitetail deer hunt down in Georgia.
• 1:55:26
  And Anthony, after going through Iowa, went through that.
• 1:55:30
  There's a lot of therapy in it
• 1:55:31
  too, because not Anthony, because I know he shoots and does other things.
• 1:55:35
  But for some of these wounded heroes, it's the first time they've ever touched
• 1:55:38
  a gun since being over there. It's a pretty emotional experience and all that.
• 1:55:42
  And so, you know, and then to take a life of something living,
• 1:55:45
  we've had some veterans really struggle with that.
• 1:55:48
  And it's been a whole thing, phenomenal thing.
• 1:55:51
  Anthony went down there, baller, and slayed a couple deer.
• 1:55:54
  I was going to ask a question. Did you take him down and mow it like you do
• 1:55:58
  on the range in order to become a gunner?
• 1:55:59
  Yeah he cheated took a lot of extra ammo he is a
• 1:56:03
  pest killer i was so disappointed in
• 1:56:06
  myself because i shot two deer
• 1:56:09
  and i only shot two rounds like that
• 1:56:13
  was so disappointing anthony he's arched
• 1:56:16
  it off in the air just because he's like god damn it so so
• 1:56:19
  what you're not understanding is we don't
• 1:56:21
  have to have tags and stuff to hunt and
• 1:56:24
  so you go down there and and so i
• 1:56:27
  can tell you what the first day is almost always like so what is
• 1:56:30
  it three days out there or two days three days right so first
• 1:56:33
  day hardly nobody comes back with deer because everybody's
• 1:56:36
  just waiting on that perfect one because because here's the other side a lot
• 1:56:39
  of them they get if they hit a real good one they'll bring they'll get the head
• 1:56:43
  mounted and all that stuff so hardly no deer come in the first day and it's
• 1:56:47
  crazy so there's they're out sitting in the stands early in the morning then
• 1:56:50
  they go back out at night we only get a few coming in we make fun of them around the fire and go,
• 1:56:55
  oh, yeah, big warrior afraid to fucking pull the trigger and whatever,
• 1:56:58
  and the drinks start flowing, cigars going, and then the next day,
• 1:57:02
  guns start lighting up a little bit and it starts coming.
• 1:57:05
  But nothing like that last evening. Oh, yeah. When they know.
• 1:57:10
  Shit, I got to get something. Dude, you'll see people come back with 5D or that night, whatever.
• 1:57:14
  Like, they're just slaying them. They don't care what it is.
• 1:57:17
  If it's got four legs and a tail, they're a lot like a soldier in a strip club.
• 1:57:22
  They're going after it. Hey, Eric, I'm going to dovetail on this with you.
• 1:57:29
  Anthony. Yeah. When you went down to do this with the CJ3 Foundation,
• 1:57:36
  what was the most important
• 1:57:40
  thing you walked away with as a
• 1:57:43
  veteran and like how did that happen it's
• 1:57:46
  very similar to walking into this room when you just being around veterans is
• 1:57:51
  a whole whole different it's a whole different ballgame especially when you're
• 1:57:56
  not surrounded by like a bunch of veterans and a bunch of civilians when you're
• 1:58:00
  surrounded by predominantly veterans Roger's like, what the,
• 1:58:03
  damn it. It's okay. Damn it.
• 1:58:06
  You're an honorary veteran, dude. Hey, keep in mind, my board member,
• 1:58:12
  Junior Coker, that puts the hunt on, never served a day in his life,
• 1:58:16
  but he's more patriotic than most veterans are, right? Absolutely.
• 1:58:20
  I mean, so I hear what you're saying, but yeah, the guy that puts on the hunt
• 1:58:24
  is not even. Sorry, I just had to make my comment.
• 1:58:28
  These civilians that suck out there. because when people walk like you talk
• 1:58:33
  like you it's a familiar area I have to Anthony I gotta make a comment real quick dude.
• 1:58:41
  Then like, I'm pretty sure we're going to make this comment every fucking podcast
• 1:58:47
  we have, but Roger, you don't act like you're not a veteran.
• 1:58:52
  No, no, no. I'm being serious. Like just cause I'm prettier than Eric.
• 1:58:57
  No, look, man, it's a mentality, dude. It's a like, look, man.
• 1:59:03
  And I'm pretty sure this is what Anthony's saying is
• 1:59:05
  you walk into a room and you feel a brotherhood and
• 1:59:09
  like you know you're you immediately feel
• 1:59:13
  like a part of the brotherhood oh i appreciate that but i was
• 1:59:16
  just i was just giving him shit because he said civilians i was like son of a bitch here
• 1:59:18
  we go here i'll sub the word civilian for midgets or everybody's
• 1:59:22
  but guy that works but anthony
• 1:59:25
  am i right about that yeah you feel a brotherhood right
• 1:59:28
  it's not it's the brotherhood absolutely but
• 1:59:31
  it's more of okay like when i got there it was like i am on a property i'm safe
• 1:59:37
  I'm not the only one out here working like to keep everybody alive so the relaxation
• 1:59:42
  in it for me to just like I I told junior bro you're not in charge anything
• 1:59:47
  either you're not the boss yeah you're not you don't your family you're not
• 1:59:50
  doing your family thing there.
• 1:59:53
  You're just, you're responsible for you and your brother. Absolutely. That's it.
• 1:59:56
  And I told Junior the first night that I got there to the cabin,
• 1:59:59
  he was like, you sleep all right?
• 2:00:01
  I said, dude, that's the best sleep I've gotten since I ETS.
• 2:00:04
  Was it your first year down there? Yeah, it was.
• 2:00:06
  Yep. Did you have like hookers and blow?
• 2:00:09
  No. No, I'm joking. Joking, joking. Not all the way down.
• 2:00:13
  Well, I mean, Eric keeps telling when we go down, we're going hogging.
• 2:00:16
  I don't know what that means. Not what it meant to us in the military,
• 2:00:20
  Eric. No, I would love to do some hogging.
• 2:00:24
  Give me a 240 out there. There'll be no hogs left in Georgia.
• 2:00:29
  So, no, it's cool because the other side is not that we're pushing drinking,
• 2:00:35
  but a lot like in here, Guy, right? We know veterans, whatever.
• 2:00:38
  And so, you know, we bring out cigars. We bring out drinks.
• 2:00:41
  A lot of it's sitting around the fire pit and just doing our thing and doing
• 2:00:46
  this, telling our stories, not talking at all, whatever you're comfortable with. And so it's just.
• 2:00:54
  Just ingratiating yourself in the brotherhood man and and
• 2:00:57
  i think a lot of us miss that and and i think
• 2:01:01
  anthony it deals with some of the same things i do bro
• 2:01:04
  this is a busy place right the hustle and bustle
• 2:01:07
  of dc area bro you don't realize
• 2:01:10
  how much this place wears on you until you go and come
• 2:01:13
  back and you're like why the fuck do i keep that's why him and i moved
• 2:01:16
  to a small town in the country man but you still feel it
• 2:01:19
  bro it's still busy out there it's still busy it's
• 2:01:22
  not real country country out there you just
• 2:01:25
  got back from your trip i just got back from my trip and i'm not gonna lie
• 2:01:28
  as soon as i hit quantico coming back i was like fuck yeah why do i keep doing
• 2:01:31
  this exactly you know i correct me if i'm wrong like all three of you um it's
• 2:01:37
  it's just being around like-minded people yeah you know like it's it's like-minded
• 2:01:43
  people that share the same values.
• 2:01:46
  That, you know,
• 2:01:48
  hold a high regard to life and the people that have gave their life.
• 2:01:54
  Like, that's the thing, dude. And unbelievably, in Northern Virginia,
• 2:02:01
  there's some great people.
• 2:02:02
  There's some great people that do that. Yeah.
• 2:02:05
  But there's also a large majority that doesn't do that.
• 2:02:09
  It's very true. Yeah. And it's nice finding a good group of people.
• 2:02:15
  Like, I'm glad I met Eric and Roger, like, 100%. You know, because they introduced
• 2:02:23
  me to people like you, Anthony. You know?
• 2:02:26
  Like, it's like-minded people. Like, man, I didn't know this person was out there.
• 2:02:30
  And, you know, when you live right down the fucking road. And that's pretty
• 2:02:34
  cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool, man.
• 2:02:37
  So, hey, let's do this. It's getting late. I appreciate you coming in,
• 2:02:41
  and I appreciate your time, Anthony.
• 2:02:43
  Dude, I get to hang out with you on the regular, so thank you for all you do.
• 2:02:47
  Let's end this on a high note.
• 2:02:49
  Give us a way people get a hold of you. One more thing before you do that.
• 2:02:53
  Where's your family from? My family? Yep. They're from Brooklyn.
• 2:02:57
  Damn it. I was going to give him shit. I've been reading this thing all night. Brooklyn, New York.
• 2:03:01
  It says, let's go Yankees. And I'm like, that is some bullshit.
• 2:03:05
  New York, so before you ended, I had to say something about that.
• 2:03:08
  Go ahead and delete this. Oh, my God.
• 2:03:11
  I saw it right now. Does he mean like Yankees, like Werther's?
• 2:03:16
  That came from the baseball talk.
• 2:03:20
  Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack that. But I want to get that in.
• 2:03:24
  Hey, hold on. Me and Roger just had the same conversation watching the game the other night.
• 2:03:29
  Nationals and St. Louis, we're both in rebuilding years. And so it actually worked.
• 2:03:33
  It was fun for us to go watch because they're both in it because it sucks
• 2:03:36
  when one's not and the other one is but it wasn't
• 2:03:39
  great i i would even if you're not a yankee fan one
• 2:03:42
  of one of the one of the best things that you can ever do in your life is go
• 2:03:47
  watch a baseball game at yankee stadium oh yeah i mean it is history all that
• 2:03:53
  i got no problem with that not even history i love to go watch it everywhere
• 2:03:56
  it's the mentality yeah like it is there is no.
• 2:04:00
  There is no clean trash talking. Like I, my first. It's diehard baseball, man.
• 2:04:05
  It's absolute. And my first experience with, at a Yankee game was I was in middle
• 2:04:09
  school and I had been to hundreds of Orioles games.
• 2:04:13
  My dad is a big baseball fan, so he don't, he don't really care.
• 2:04:16
  He likes the Yankees. I'll go watch any baseball. Yep.
• 2:04:18
  The first time I go to the Yankee game, the ump made a bad call around the sixth inning.
• 2:04:23
  They lost their mind. For the next four innings, all you heard was bullshit.
• 2:04:28
  Bull. And, and it's not one or two people.
• 2:04:30
  It would be like, it's the whole stadium, and you could hear it from blocks
• 2:04:34
  away. They're angry. They're relentless. They're just angry people.
• 2:04:37
  And it's an experience. So, guy, I'm going to ask that you edit out the Yankee
• 2:04:41
  part. But he likes Yankee candles.
• 2:04:44
  Right. And it's fine. It's totally fine. So, speaking of bullshit,
• 2:04:47
  let's end with savage pest warfare. Yes. Oh, shit.
• 2:04:54
  Sorry, bro. tell
• 2:04:57
  us how people find out about you and what they
• 2:05:00
  need to know from you bro generally it's word of mouth business how
• 2:05:03
  people find out about us and that usually comes from somebody
• 2:05:06
  not taking care of a pest problem we'll come in and fix it like squirrels exactly
• 2:05:10
  yep yep if you're having troubles you know getting rid of them we'll come in
• 2:05:14
  there and fix it the other way people find out about it is our trucks everybody
• 2:05:18
  loves their trucks you can find us
• 2:05:20
  on the internet we do not do a bunch of advertising, but we are out there.
• 2:05:24
  You can find us on social medias and the website itself.
• 2:05:29
  And of course at the car shows where we're always parked together, hanging out, right?
• 2:05:32
  Oh wait, let's not forget the 68 Camaro.
• 2:05:38
  You mean the car? Whatever we decide to come up with? We should do a car in 68 Camaro.
• 2:05:45
  So we know Negative Bounce is not going to be in charge of this initiative no
• 2:05:50
  i can't be because i'm gonna buy some tickets.
• 2:05:56
  Especially if it's that we'll get a 67 just to fuck him off you no see if he
• 2:06:01
  knows the difference i'll be like oh yeah it looks great yeah that's what we thought,
• 2:06:06
  Eric, take us out. Take us out here. Hey, this is Eric Thomas with CJ3 Foundation.
• 2:06:11
  Glad to have Anthony Pensabine with Savage Pest Warfare here.
• 2:06:15
  Got my guy, my right-hand man here in Virginia, Roger Singh.
• 2:06:20
  Thank you for joining us. Once again, this is just another phenomenal individual
• 2:06:27
  that represents heroism.
• 2:06:30
  I want to watch his face cringe when I say that. Hold on.
• 2:06:33
  I was going to make him cringe because I didn't do this in the beginning.
• 2:06:35
  Thank you for your service I just learned recently The correct response is thank
• 2:06:41
  you for your support There you go No, no, you know what Thank you for being
• 2:06:46
  a brah You know what somebody said?
• 2:06:47
  Thank you for being worth fighting for Oh.
• 2:06:53
  We're ending the podcast You're making me misty There it is So hey,
• 2:06:58
  Anthony, thank you for all you do, brother You know, this is Warriors and Watchmen
• 2:07:02
  You definitely fit this criteria.