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Chris Pronger is a Sweetheart?: Early preseason analysis, Kopi calls it a career and RIP Bernie Parent. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted Coming up, We'll take a Walk in the
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Speaker 1: Woods with screen icon Robert Redford with Cinephile and sixty
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Speaker 1: A towering hockey great the Hall of Famer Chris Pronger
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Speaker 1: reflecting on his mean streets on the ice and count
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Speaker 1: me as a Bernie bro saying farewell to one of
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Speaker 1: the greatest goalies of all time, Bernie paruh JD. We're
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Speaker 1: back here unscripted and you intaligating a little team bonding
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Speaker 1: it tell us about that.
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Speaker 2: just like I did you. I had to see his height.
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Speaker 2: It is confirmed. You are the smallest member of the
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Speaker 2: but I like that toxic, but I like that kind
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Speaker 2: of masculinely. He walked into there and I said, who
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Speaker 2: He was. We had a good little chat. We talked
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Speaker 2: uh and my wife was there too. We're in town
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Speaker 2: visiting and it's nice. It's nice to kind of you know,
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Speaker 2: it's amazing when you do over We've done over fifty
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Speaker 2: shows I think now, and you're eight for Oh, I
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Speaker 2: the fans go, oh, we gotta go watch all of them.
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Speaker 2: There's so many always over sell, always over self fair enough,
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Speaker 2: but no, it's amazing to kind of just you know
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Speaker 2: you Because we're all so busy in our lives, you
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Speaker 2: don't like get to connect in person. So it's always
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Speaker 2: nice to kind of kind of talk and you guys
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Speaker 2: have you know, Towel's only seen mean emails and mean
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Speaker 2: text messages from me, and it's nice to kind of
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Speaker 2: get there, give them a hug, and you know, I
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Speaker 2: put my arm around his shoulder and and just chop
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Speaker 2: it up a little bit. So it's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Taldo on the clock. So the next
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Speaker 1: time Towels in the East Coast, we have to go
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Speaker 1: to Hartford. Consider your love of the Whalers and my Connecticut.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Pepe's in New Haven, Connecticut.
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Speaker 2: Je face. That's gonna be great, all right.
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Speaker 1: The games don't mean anything in the standings, but there's hockey, folks,
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Speaker 1: there is hockey. This year's shorter preseason schedule meets plenty
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Speaker 1: for players trying to make their respective team.
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Speaker 2: So it's early, but some exhibition game highlights.
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Speaker 1: Gabriel Landskock dropping the gloves after you to Mammoth forward
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Speaker 1: elbowed Kle mccar in the head. That was the Sam
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Speaker 1: Lipkin first overall pick. Matthew Schaeffer earning an assist in
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Speaker 1: his first game of the Islanders Sunny Milano four points
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Speaker 1: of the Caps in his first preseason action. Eighteen year
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Speaker 1: old Brady Martin scoring twice in his debut with Nashville
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Speaker 1: eighteen and the Jackie brothers Arbor and Florian scoring for
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Speaker 1: Montreal with their mom in the crowd, JD.
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Speaker 2: Which of those standing out for you so far? I
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Speaker 2: mean Florian Jackie number one. I just got to touch
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Speaker 2: on that, the Jackuye brothers because you know my dad's
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Speaker 2: he's a he's very bullish on him. I think Florian's
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Speaker 2: maybe a year away from playing, but I mean he
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Speaker 2: had twenty seven goals in the AHL and over one
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Speaker 2: hundred pen minutes. Like he's tough as nails, fought fought.
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Speaker 2: De Laurier and also scored a goal. I mean, he's
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Speaker 2: he's someone to like for Montreal. I like everything where
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Speaker 2: Montreal's going. But for me, I think, obviously Matthew Shaeffer.
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Speaker 2: I think everybody was wondering, how will this kid look?
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Speaker 2: And I mean, he's has advertised he's a smooth skating,
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Speaker 2: two way defenseman and personally, you know, some people were
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Speaker 2: talking to me about the numbers of the Calder race
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Speaker 2: and how Demodops like plus one ninety right now and
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Speaker 2: everybody else is like six to one are over, And
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I think Matthew Shaeffer is the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: kind of steal the Calder and and it's kind of
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he stays healthy if he
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Speaker 2: doesn't take it. You know, I think I don't know
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Speaker 2: where Demodop's going to finish with Patrick lyone there and
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Speaker 2: how much offensive opportunity is going to get once the
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Speaker 2: season starts. So but I'm I'm bullish on Matthew Shaeffer.
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Speaker 2: I love a defenseman that comes into the league young,
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Speaker 2: eighteen nine eighteen and just so calm and such a
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Speaker 2: smooth skater. I mean, that whole sequence of him just
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Speaker 2: rolling around in the ozone overtime and then chasing down
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Speaker 2: I think it was Mitchkov on the breakaway. It just
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Speaker 2: looked like he didn't break a sweat. That's just that's
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Speaker 2: just amazing stuff. And I'm sure it gets everybody in
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Speaker 2: all the Islanders fans hard as a rock.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the past you're talk but not getting hard
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Speaker 1: with certain things, and this issue is hard.
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Speaker 2: That is when we are getting hard, right hard.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about Landiskok dropping the gloves?
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Speaker 2: I don't love it, but I guess listen, Laniskog missed,
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Speaker 2: missed so much time. I'm sure he's so excited. And
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Speaker 2: I saw Tyson Barry, you know, fan of the show.
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Speaker 2: He posted something being like, you know, fuck around and
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Speaker 2: find out with Gabriel Lanskog. But listen, it's so polarizing
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Speaker 2: preseason because you know, you got these guys that are
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Speaker 2: trying to make the team, and and honestly, for all
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Speaker 2: the fans out there, there's maybe one to two spots
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Speaker 2: on the NHL roster. I would say one that's up
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Speaker 2: for grabs. The rest is already set in stone. So
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Speaker 2: these kids that are playing are just trying trying to
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Speaker 2: show out for either an opportunity to play in the
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Speaker 2: HL or for you know, the team to take notice
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Speaker 2: and it's nothing against them, but that leads to cheap shots,
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Speaker 2: That leads to guys getting a little bit over zealous.
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Speaker 2: And I've never it's always going to be that way.
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Speaker 2: You know, you kind of as a as a veteran,
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Speaker 2: you're you have to really once you start, you're established
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Speaker 2: in the league, you kind of got to be like,
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Speaker 2: how do I want to play this? Am I trying
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Speaker 2: to get ready? Or you know, do I have to
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Speaker 2: go hard and get ready for the season and make
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Speaker 2: sure that I'm hitting being physical like Atlantiskog fighting if
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Speaker 2: I need to. So it's tough, man and it but
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Speaker 2: it is what it is. You got these kids in
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Speaker 2: I'd like to see them maybe really sit down and
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Speaker 2: figure out this preseason thing because I think every league
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Speaker 2: struggles with it. That's in a contact sport football as well.
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Speaker 2: You know, what do you do do you have two
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Speaker 2: teams out there and you know you just have you're
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Speaker 2: only allowed to play your guys that are going to
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Speaker 2: play in season together and you know, you keep the
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Speaker 2: young kids against each other or you know, how do
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Speaker 2: you how do you how do you make it work
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Speaker 2: so we're not getting some injuries. You look at Logan
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Speaker 2: Cooley getting hit from behind and getting injured. He's day
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Speaker 2: to day. It's like, how do you limit those? I
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Speaker 2: know you can't, but like, is there a way to
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Speaker 2: maybe figure out and man something that's better and we
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Speaker 2: could guarantee guys safety, but it is a contact sport.
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Speaker 2: You can't. You can ever do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for most sports, I find with training camp, preseason,
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Speaker 1: exhibition games, whatever you want to call, it's just don't
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Speaker 1: get hurt. And guys are trying to make the team
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Speaker 1: on the bubble, show up and show it. And as
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Speaker 1: you said, rookies, what can they show? What kind of promise?
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Speaker 1: That's what a noable mention Schaeffer. The other thing when
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Speaker 1: it comes to preseason, training camp, exhibition, spring training is holdouts.
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Speaker 1: You don't hear about it too much in hockey, but
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Speaker 1: there's one notable hold on a team you like a lot.
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Speaker 1: This year in the Ducks, Mason McTavish remains unsigned. He
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Speaker 1: has not appeared at the team's training camp. Twenty two
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Speaker 1: year old without a contract. Duckshi and Papferbeek called it
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Speaker 1: quote disappointing. Big summer in Anaheim. Joel Quinville's there. They
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Speaker 1: trade for Chris Quider, they signed Michael Grant, they got
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Speaker 1: plenty of cap space. How tough is this for the Ducks?
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Speaker 1: And do you think they consider trading Mason mctabash.
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Speaker 2: I find him such a you know, a foundational piece
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Speaker 2: unless you're getting something back in return that's very substantial
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Speaker 2: and is a good return, meaning, you know, getting a
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Speaker 2: young guy to come back like another prospect. I think
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Speaker 2: they're just kind of stuck between a rock and a
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Speaker 2: hard place. I've said hard way too many times today.
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Speaker 2: So this is a tough one. This is early in
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Speaker 2: the morning. But you know Pat Verbeeks kind of you know,
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Speaker 2: he's he's played these young guys tough, you know, like
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Speaker 2: he's he's not necessarily just shilling out the dough. And
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Speaker 2: I do think Mason mctaviash is worth it. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how far apart they are, but it's a deal
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Speaker 2: you want to see get done because he's such good
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Speaker 2: he's such a good forward, he's such a good piece
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Speaker 2: to this team. I know they got Lil Carlson, they
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Speaker 2: got a lot of other cutter goats, hee a lot
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Speaker 2: of big talent, So they can maybe wait without him,
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Speaker 2: but I think it's prudent. You know, if I'm Mason McTavish,
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Speaker 2: you want to play, but also you want to get
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Speaker 2: your money's worth because you see around the league all
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Speaker 2: these other young kids that have done less than him
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Speaker 2: getting more money. So for him, he's probably like, listen,
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Speaker 2: pay the piper, not Roddy Piper, maceon McTavish, baby.
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Speaker 1: Good reference and tell it. Probably the Ducks are probably
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Speaker 1: don't want a Bridge deal a McTavish.
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Speaker 2: Right, That's what the reports seem to be.
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Speaker 3: I think the issue seems to be term more so
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Speaker 3: than just money. Like the Ducks this We saw this
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Speaker 3: with trevor' segres, right, he he held out a few
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Speaker 3: years ago, and it looks like that was that was
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Speaker 3: an issue, was term.
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Speaker 2: He did not want to sign.
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Speaker 3: Long term in Anaheim and lo and behold he was
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Speaker 3: gone within a couple of years. So, uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: Mason McTavish seems to be in the same situation where
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Speaker 3: they're not. The Ducks aren't interested in like a two
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Speaker 3: to three you know, year bridge deal.
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Speaker 2: They want him long term.
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Speaker 3: They want to lock him in, you know, to see
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Speaker 3: this thing through as far as turning this team into
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Speaker 3: a contender.
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Speaker 2: And my concerns more is like even.
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Speaker 3: If they do sign him and he misses the first
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Speaker 3: week or who have camped, Like how sharp is he
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Speaker 3: going to be when he finally gets there?
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Speaker 2: Sharp is a spoon, I tell you that much. But
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Speaker 2: he's ten times better than Zegras, so can't anyway, moving.
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Speaker 1: On, there's huge news in Los Angeles. Is always on
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Speaker 1: MLB netwhere Clayton kershawt announcing he's gonna be stepping down
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Speaker 1: as a member of the Dodgers after the season, the
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Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer, and then everyone's in an up right,
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Speaker 1: so what they go, there's another la icon stepping away?
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Speaker 1: So what the are Copetar people were furious in baseball circles, Jadie,
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Speaker 1: they go, hang, have a feel. Let Kershaw have his
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Speaker 1: moment tomorrow you can announce it. But on the same
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Speaker 1: day that Clayton curs as retirement announcement comes out just
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Speaker 1: into the radar, King's captain Andre Kupetar announces this is
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Speaker 1: going to be his last season as well. Oh five
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Speaker 1: first round pick, andering his twentieth season in LA keep
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Speaker 1: part of the team's two Stanley Cups. He's first in
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Speaker 1: franchise history. By the way, in notable categories games, assists,
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Speaker 1: in game winning goals, he's twenty nine points by Marcel
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Speaker 1: Dion for the franchise points mark, which begs the question,
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Speaker 1: is Kope the King of Kings? Is he the greatest
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Speaker 1: player in franchise? Is? I say, no, marceld On the man.
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Speaker 2: But what do you think? I mean? And kupatar As you
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Speaker 2: said so elegantly, I mean, I don't know. You've got
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Speaker 2: Gretzky that you know, changed the franchise. Yeah, so it's
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Speaker 2: kind of tough to I would put him as the
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Speaker 2: greatest king, like, but I tell you what, that guy
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Speaker 2: has done some amazing things for that franchise. He's been
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Speaker 2: just the leader of the consumant leader. My question is
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Speaker 2: in your eyes MLB wise, Yeah, who do you think
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Speaker 2: retiring is a bigger deal? Clayton Kershaw or Andre copetar As.
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Speaker 2: You are somebody that lives between both worlds. You are
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Speaker 2: a cuck in MLB network and you are cocking both sides.
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Speaker 2: So for you, who do you think is like a
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Speaker 2: bigger deal in LA I know, I know both will
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Speaker 2: kind of have their arguments, but yeah, Eileen Coppatar but
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you think.
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Speaker 1: I think Kershaw obviously has been the face of the
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Speaker 1: Dodgers for a long time. He's had incredible regular season
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Speaker 1: success by the numbers, he's one of the great pitchers
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Speaker 1: of the last forty fifty years. Now the playoffs, he's
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Speaker 1: had a lot of notable failures, which is a part
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Speaker 1: of the resume, right, it's a resume and era. In
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Speaker 1: the regular seasons two and a half and the postseason's
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Speaker 1: four and a half. So Copaitar, I think, in many
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Speaker 1: ways is underappreciated, not only within his city but within
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Speaker 1: hockey circles. Like for years, if I said you filmed
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Speaker 1: the Blank j D. The most underrated player in hockey
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Speaker 1: is I think for years it was are Coptar. Within hockey,
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Speaker 1: they know how great he is, but I think the
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Speaker 1: larger world doesn't realize how great this guy's been. First
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Speaker 1: this long, like twentieth season, that duration, you know, is insane.
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Speaker 2: It's so nuts, and it's amazing the way he skates,
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Speaker 2: and you know, he was never the fastest adapted when
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Speaker 2: the game adapted. You know, I always put like I
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Speaker 2: did that century show for the NHL where you're ranking
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Speaker 2: the top hundred players and not say on Jay's in
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Speaker 2: there or or not, but you know, the way we
11:53
Speaker 2: ranked it is like can you transcend eros in hockey?
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Speaker 2: And for me that was a big thing, Like because
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Speaker 2: hockey's ever evolving, it's ever changing. It's a copycat league,
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Speaker 2: so you have to as an athlete adapt the way
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Speaker 2: it's changing. Like you know, unless you're a guy that
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Speaker 2: is a Conor McDavid or you know, a Leon Dricidle,
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Speaker 2: a Barkoff, Like you talk about these talents, you know,
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Speaker 2: Anjie Copetar had that talent, but he wasn't the fastest
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Speaker 2: and he wasn't necessarily the most skilled. He has a
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Speaker 2: lot of skill, but like you know, it wasn't this
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Speaker 2: dynamic jump off the page at you kind of NHL
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Speaker 2: hockey player. But he adapted throughout the years and he's
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Speaker 2: just found a way to be a defensive stalwart out
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Speaker 2: there and contribute offensively. And he's really just been on
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Speaker 2: top of that, just a great quiet leader and a
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Speaker 2: great guy. And anybody you ask within that franchise, anyone
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Speaker 2: you ask that's played within that organization says the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Anjre Copetar is just a great human being. And a
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Speaker 2: great guy to root for, So it's just for me
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Speaker 2: he's up there. And to your point, I think you
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Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. He's very underappreciated and
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Speaker 2: has always been underappreciated. I think even now just by
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Speaker 2: the way he had, you know, he announced his retirement
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Speaker 2: so understated. He's like, yeah, this is my last year,
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Speaker 2: and I just feel like it could have been even
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Speaker 2: bigger news. But being in LA, it's a little bit
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Speaker 2: it gets less out you know, it's less out there
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Speaker 2: being in hockey in LA. But I just think, what
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Speaker 2: a career, what an amazing guy. And yeah, I just
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Speaker 2: think you can't say enough good things about him, no
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Speaker 2: question about.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully Copetar finishes strong and who knows, the King's title
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Speaker 1: window could be closing with him saying farewell. Speaking of farewell,
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Speaker 1: we say goodbye to I think one of the great
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Speaker 1: underappreciated again goalies of all time, Bernie Perant. Two weeks
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Speaker 1: after the pass of the legendary Canadians goaltender Ken Dryden,
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Speaker 1: the sport loses another all time great as Bernie pron
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Speaker 1: passed at the age of eighty. He played six hundred
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Speaker 1: and eight games the Bruins Flyers and the Leafs. He'll
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Speaker 1: always remember those the backstoff for the broad Street Bullies.
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Speaker 1: They won the Cup in seventy four and seventy five.
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Speaker 1: His number one was retired by Philly in nineteen seventy nine.
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Speaker 1: He was inducting the Hockey All Fame in nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 2: GDI.
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Speaker 1: If you look at those numbers, those cup runs, like
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Speaker 1: he was unbelievable for this team. We know about Bobby
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Speaker 1: Clark and Dave Shelton, the broad Street Bullies and all
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Speaker 1: the rest of it, but they don't win without Bernie
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Speaker 1: Parant And one of my favorite signs ever in the game,
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Speaker 1: only the Lord saves more than Bernie Parant. He was
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Speaker 1: unbelievable in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, rest in peace. Too many good goalies
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Speaker 2: getting taken away from us right now. But you said it.
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Speaker 2: You took exactly what I was going to say. I
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Speaker 2: think the broad Street Bullies aren't the broad Street Pollys
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Speaker 2: without Bernie Paran. So just what a career and those
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Speaker 2: runs were just what a fun team to watch and
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Speaker 2: he backstopped him so because again a team like that,
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Speaker 2: that's that on the line, physical dirty. You know, they
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Speaker 2: take a lot of penalties, and you need a good
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Speaker 2: goaltender back there to kill the penalties and make big
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Speaker 2: saves when they're you know, chasing everybody around the ice.
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Speaker 2: So amazing career, amazing human being. I've heard and didn't
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Speaker 2: have the pleasure of meeting him, but no rest in
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Speaker 2: peace to him. One more thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Making of former Flyer goaltenders Carter Hart considering signing with
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Speaker 1: the Vegas Golden Knights and killing Hurricanes along with one
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Speaker 1: or two other unnamed teams is according to Chris Johnson
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Speaker 1: TSN and the Athletics, so Heart last play the NHL
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Speaker 1: in January twenty twenty four before he was indicted later
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Speaker 1: acquitted of sexual assault along with four Team Canada teammates,
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Speaker 1: stepping from an instant that took place in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 1: The NHL ruled Heart and the four other players are
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Speaker 1: eligible to sign with the NHL teams October fifteenth. They
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Speaker 1: can begin playing in games on December first. At one point, Gadi,
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Speaker 1: as you know, Hart was thought to be the next
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Speaker 1: great Flyers goalten. After all these years of guys who
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Speaker 1: didn't work out, Roman check Manic Robert ashe name it,
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Speaker 1: They're like, Oh, Carter Hart's gonna be the guy. So
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Speaker 1: what do you make of him potentially returning to the
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Speaker 1: league this season.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you put me, put me in a tough spot
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Speaker 2: here and unscripted.
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna sign. I think he's gonna play it.
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Speaker 1: But I think there's gonna be some backlash.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think one hundred percent there is backlash. Especially
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Speaker 2: I just think every time he goes back to Canada
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Speaker 2: and and listen, regardless of what happened, what's true. The
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Speaker 2: justice system acquitted them of these charges, but doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna catch flack. Because whenever that type of
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Speaker 2: valigation or that type of process that you go through
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Speaker 2: gets out there, I mean, it's it follows you the
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Speaker 2: rest of your life. So for him and these kids
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Speaker 2: or you know, these adults that played hockey and are
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Speaker 2: going to continue to try to play hockey at the
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Speaker 2: professional level, they're going to catch a lot of flak
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Speaker 2: for this. So whether it's right or wrong, it's it's
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Speaker 2: really what it is. And I think he, at before
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Speaker 2: all of this happened, was a huge prospect and was
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Speaker 2: really finding his game. And I do think a team
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Speaker 2: will take a shot on him. I think they're going
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Speaker 2: to really do their due diligence, But I don't see
16:39
Speaker 2: a team in Canada picking them up, and if they do,
16:43
Speaker 2: I would assume it's a team way out west. Maybe
16:45
Speaker 2: Vancouver could be a team that potentially scoops him up.
16:49
Speaker 2: I know Philly said they're not going to go for them,
16:51
Speaker 2: so you know, they probably just kind of It's a
16:54
Speaker 2: tough one because you're the you want to be the
16:56
Speaker 2: first team to do it, but every team is sitting
16:59
Speaker 2: in their war room going, this is probably the best
17:03
Speaker 2: goal available and you don't have to trade for him,
17:06
Speaker 2: you can just sign him. So we're going to see
17:08
Speaker 2: what happens. I expect a team out west to maybe
17:10
Speaker 2: sign him. I could there were some rubblings of the
17:13
Speaker 2: Edmonton Oilers as well, but I think they're gonna wait
17:16
Speaker 2: because I just I can't imagine being in Canada, him
17:19
Speaker 2: living in Canada. I think it'd be really tough. So
17:24
Speaker 2: I feel like him going to maybe a Pacific Division
17:26
Speaker 2: team or a Central team where you're not playing a
17:29
Speaker 2: ton of games against Canadian teams would be the best
17:32
Speaker 2: place for them to go for Carter Hart. But yeah,
17:36
Speaker 2: he's out of those guys. He's the nhlready player and
17:39
Speaker 2: I assume and would bet that he's gonna get signed
17:44
Speaker 2: maybe the next few weeks, if not a month into
17:46
Speaker 2: the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna suggest Edmonton t because he's from
17:49
Speaker 1: Subood Park Alborda, and we all know the challenges they've
17:52
Speaker 1: had in NET. But I understand your point, the sensitivity
17:54
Speaker 1: to it. He's still just a young man. He's only
17:56
Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago. There should be a lot of
17:58
Speaker 1: hockey left in Carter Heart's career, all right, coming up
18:00
Speaker 1: next year an NHL in script, How did Chris Ponger
18:02
Speaker 1: overcome too much muscle relied to do something no one
18:05
Speaker 1: has ever done in hockey history? The answer is next,
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Speaker 1: our next guest to Hockey.
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.
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Speaker 1: One of the most dominant and intimidating players of his era,
18:25
Speaker 1: Collecting six hundred and ninety eight points and one and
18:28
Speaker 1: sixty seven career NHL games with the Whalers, Blues, Oilers,
18:31
Speaker 1: Ducks and Flyers. He won the Stanley Cup of the
18:34
Speaker 1: Anaheim in two thousand and seven, remains the only defenseman
18:37
Speaker 1: in the last fifty years when the Heart Trophy, which
18:40
Speaker 1: he did as a member of the Saint Louis Blues
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Speaker 1: in two thousand walk May Brady, let's get nasty.
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Speaker 2: We're Chris Pronger.
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Speaker 1: Prob's great to see you man, good to be seen.
18:48
Speaker 4: Thank you. So we had an anti introduction.
18:51
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it gets even nice. I mean, talk about that.
18:54
Speaker 2: You know how busy you've been recently in all the
18:58
Speaker 2: things you're diving into. Just tell us what you got
19:00
Speaker 2: going on and how much you've enjoyed this kind of
19:03
Speaker 2: last couple of years of jumping into life, coaching, jumping
19:07
Speaker 2: into media TV. It seems like you just got it
19:10
Speaker 2: all going on right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been exciting.
19:13
Speaker 5: You know, spent six plus years kind of back in
19:17
Speaker 5: the hockey space post retirement. I spent a couple of
19:20
Speaker 5: years getting healthy and then worked with the Nashal Hockeying
19:22
Speaker 5: and Apartment of Player of Safety. Then I was a
19:25
Speaker 5: senior advisor in Florida for three years, and then you know,
19:29
Speaker 5: just wasn't feeling it. When you see how the sausage
19:32
Speaker 5: is being made on the other side, it.
19:34
Speaker 4: Just wasn't for me.
19:36
Speaker 5: And you know, that was always something that I thought
19:38
Speaker 5: I was going to do post playing career, and when
19:41
Speaker 5: those plans don't mesh together, you kind of need to
19:46
Speaker 5: do a reboot and spent a couple of years trying
19:49
Speaker 5: to figure out what was moving the needle. At the
19:52
Speaker 5: same time as I was leaving the Florida Panthers, my
19:56
Speaker 5: wife had started a luxury travel company and was kind
19:58
Speaker 5: of helping her with that, started up a whiskey company
20:02
Speaker 5: and that kind of and its course, and now just
20:07
Speaker 5: you know, really started to dig into.
20:11
Speaker 4: Performance coaching.
20:12
Speaker 5: I don't like to call it motivational coaching because I'm
20:15
Speaker 5: not necessarily there to motivate you. I'm there to help
20:17
Speaker 5: you improve your performance long term and not have the
20:20
Speaker 5: blips that we see with motivation comes and goes, it wanes,
20:24
Speaker 5: but performance should not, and discipline and habit should not.
20:28
Speaker 5: So you know, that's something that I really dig into
20:31
Speaker 5: with my coaching. And then obviously I've kind of dove
20:35
Speaker 5: into TV a little bit here the last couple of years,
20:37
Speaker 5: and last year did.
20:39
Speaker 4: A brief stint in Saint Louis. That's right in Saint.
20:43
Speaker 5: Louis, a short drive for my house, so that worked
20:45
Speaker 5: out well, and and did a couple of Blues games
20:48
Speaker 5: as well. So then and then did some playoffs with
20:50
Speaker 5: the ESPN and and sportsnets, so kind of dip my
20:53
Speaker 5: toe in a little bit, got a little taste, a
20:55
Speaker 5: little flavor for what's to come this year, and gonna
20:58
Speaker 5: do probably thirteen or fourteen Blues games.
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Speaker 1: It's awesome, man, And sorry, yeah, I would be remiss
21:05
Speaker 1: if I did not mention that come April there will
21:09
Speaker 1: book at Chris Pronger.
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Speaker 4: Book coming out, nice, amazing. A lot of.
21:14
Speaker 5: Promos and marketing and things like that over the next
21:18
Speaker 5: six months or so to kind of build that up
21:21
Speaker 5: in the lead lead up.
21:23
Speaker 4: To the book release.
21:24
Speaker 5: And there are a few stories that people will be
21:27
Speaker 5: inquiring about that will be settled in the book, that's
21:29
Speaker 5: for sure.
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Speaker 1: Nice O was but to say, I know what a
21:32
Speaker 1: great storyteller you are, and I cannot wait for the book.
21:34
Speaker 2: Let's tell a few of those stories right now.
21:36
Speaker 1: You go way back with our buddy John Foresland, who's
21:39
Speaker 1: the voice of Amazon Prime minyed Hockey, because you came
21:41
Speaker 1: to the league second overall pick of the Hertford Whalers. Now,
21:44
Speaker 1: Prongs I was at ESPN twenty ten to twenty nineteen,
21:47
Speaker 1: so I was there and still the Whaler's jersey was iconic.
21:50
Speaker 1: It's still the best selling thing right in Connecticut. Saved
21:53
Speaker 1: the whale ever I was going. So I'm going around.
21:56
Speaker 1: I remember asking Brian Brook where should I live and
21:58
Speaker 1: he goes, you know you're gonna be working in Bristol.
21:59
Speaker 1: Don't live in Bristol, West, Hartford, Avon. Those are the
22:02
Speaker 1: places to go. But you have a different memory of
22:04
Speaker 1: Hartford back before I was there, Like in the nineties.
22:06
Speaker 1: What was it like playing in Hartford.
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Speaker 5: It is funny because even to this day, to your point,
22:11
Speaker 5: when I wear my whaler's gear around, which I do
22:13
Speaker 5: once in a while, yeah, I get so many people,
22:16
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love the Whalers, and I'm always like, oh,
22:18
Speaker 5: you're the one. We had no fans, you know. We
22:23
Speaker 5: would play Boston on a Saturday night and half the
22:26
Speaker 5: building would be Bruins fans. We would play the Rangers
22:29
Speaker 5: on a Thursday or Saturday night and half the building
22:31
Speaker 5: would be Rangers fans. You know, we had we had
22:34
Speaker 5: eight to ten thousand die hard Whalers fans and then
22:37
Speaker 5: the building was scattered with whoever we were playing that night.
22:42
Speaker 5: But you know, John Foresland was the team services man
22:47
Speaker 5: for the Hartford.
22:48
Speaker 4: Whalers way back when.
22:51
Speaker 5: So I've known, as you said, I've known John since
22:54
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three, and again, you know, he got to
22:58
Speaker 5: see my rise through my career. I got to see
23:01
Speaker 5: his rise through his career and kind of how he
23:04
Speaker 5: took his team services role with the Whalers then Hurricanes
23:07
Speaker 5: and parlayed that into TV.
23:09
Speaker 4: And now look at the great job that he does.
23:11
Speaker 5: He's, uh, he's a class act and a great a
23:14
Speaker 5: great announcer.
23:16
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's one of the classiest. We had
23:18
Speaker 2: him on the show. He's fantastic. But you know, you
23:21
Speaker 2: have your short sin in Hartford and then you're off
23:22
Speaker 2: to Saint Louis and and I mean talk about that
23:25
Speaker 2: going from Hartford to Saint Louis, especially you know, first
23:29
Speaker 2: year there, you got Mike Keenan as a coach, Brett Hall,
23:31
Speaker 2: Tony Twist, like all those personalities. How was that Tolly Twist?
23:39
Speaker 2: How was that? And uh, how was that? Kind of
23:42
Speaker 2: growing up on that team and and and really kind
23:44
Speaker 2: of finding your footing and becoming just that the superstar
23:47
Speaker 2: that we all know you were in the league.
23:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you kind of got to back up
23:51
Speaker 4: a little bit.
23:51
Speaker 5: I think expectations may have been a little high in Hartford.
23:55
Speaker 5: I think with maybe what fans were expecting, and I was,
24:00
Speaker 5: you know, a little green, a little raw, and not
24:04
Speaker 5: quite there yet, but was precipitously booed in Hartford. And
24:10
Speaker 5: so when I got traded to Saint Louis, I was excited.
24:14
Speaker 4: I was like, Ah, this is gonna be great.
24:16
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, Oh, I get to play with Holly and
24:18
Speaker 5: Al mckinnis, and they just signed Fursy and Jeff Courtnell
24:22
Speaker 5: and all these guys, and back and back then the
24:24
Speaker 5: geek Carbona and Dale Howard, Chuck and all these guys.
24:28
Speaker 4: This is gonna be amazing.
24:30
Speaker 5: And I get there not realizing that Brendan Shanahan had
24:34
Speaker 5: almost surpassed Brett Hall in fame in the city of
24:37
Speaker 5: Saint Louis and stardom fifty goal scorer, obviously physical.
24:41
Speaker 4: Presence that he was.
24:42
Speaker 5: And I kind of came in not realizing who I
24:46
Speaker 5: was supposed to replace, and Mike Keenan quickly put me.
24:50
Speaker 4: In my place.
24:52
Speaker 5: I was not in great shape coming into training camp,
24:56
Speaker 5: and he quickly told me so.
24:59
Speaker 4: As only he can.
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Speaker 2: He fired Mike. Yeah, yeah, and then you know.
25:06
Speaker 5: Spent the better part of that season in the doghouse
25:09
Speaker 5: with the coach. Last GM some of my teammates, pretty
25:15
Speaker 5: much all the fans, and tried to figure out a
25:19
Speaker 5: way to play myself out of it. And it was
25:22
Speaker 5: a tough year, but one I think that really built
25:27
Speaker 5: up the grit and resilience that I talk about a
25:29
Speaker 5: lot in the book that I talk about when I
25:30
Speaker 5: speak that I think allowed me to meet everything else
25:34
Speaker 5: that I that I encountered during my career head on.
25:38
Speaker 4: You know, the hard incident, you know, the.
25:43
Speaker 5: Myriad of injuries, and just all the trades, all the
25:47
Speaker 5: different things that had kind of gone on, the lockouts,
25:49
Speaker 5: everything that kind of gone on.
25:51
Speaker 4: There was a.
25:53
Speaker 5: Great deal of heartache and strife. But I think having
25:57
Speaker 5: gone through all that early pain and circumstance early on,
26:02
Speaker 5: I think allowed me to really manage these other stuff
26:06
Speaker 5: in an easier light and really propel me forward to
26:09
Speaker 5: try to achieve and get past the term potential, which
26:14
Speaker 5: is a very difficult label, and kind of reach my
26:17
Speaker 5: full potential and play to the level that I expected
26:20
Speaker 5: in the way that I felt like I could as
26:22
Speaker 5: I came into the league, and uh, you know it
26:24
Speaker 5: was being paid to do.
26:26
Speaker 2: I mean talk you know your life coach now. So
26:29
Speaker 2: I want to touch on that a little bit like,
26:31
Speaker 2: what's the one biggest takeaway that you learned from all
26:35
Speaker 2: of that heartache and adversity that you had to overcome
26:39
Speaker 2: early in your career to kind of get to where
26:42
Speaker 2: you you know, the majority of of how successful you
26:45
Speaker 2: were and how you finished.
26:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say we are our own worst enemy.
26:50
Speaker 5: I know I was my own worst enemy, from the
26:52
Speaker 5: victim mentality, to blaming everybody, to blaming the fans, to
26:56
Speaker 5: blaming the situation, to blaming my deep partner, to blaming
27:00
Speaker 5: this guy or that guy. At the end of the day,
27:03
Speaker 5: you got to look at the person in the mirror
27:04
Speaker 5: and realize you need to take ownership.
27:07
Speaker 4: You need to do more.
27:08
Speaker 5: You need to be willing to sacrifice and do all
27:10
Speaker 5: the things necessary to live a full life and play
27:13
Speaker 5: to the best of your abilities.
27:14
Speaker 4: And it's within you.
27:15
Speaker 5: It's in within your control, and what you do moving
27:18
Speaker 5: forward can dictate how how good you play, how good
27:24
Speaker 5: you are at your job, how you live your life
27:28
Speaker 5: and live it to its fullest. And so I try
27:31
Speaker 5: to explain to people, I'm not there to make people
27:33
Speaker 5: feel good, you know, I'm there to kind of hold
27:35
Speaker 5: their feet to the fire and hold them accountable.
27:37
Speaker 4: For and ask some serious questions. What do they want
27:41
Speaker 4: out of their careers? What do they want out of
27:43
Speaker 4: their life? I have, you know, and I'll walked them.
27:46
Speaker 5: I'll put them in my shoes of all the difficult decisions,
27:49
Speaker 5: all the mistakes I've made, all the things that have
27:52
Speaker 5: come from taking ownership and responsibility and things of that nature.
27:55
Speaker 5: And you know, ultimately, those that want to make change
27:59
Speaker 5: are willing to do what's necessary, and those that want
28:02
Speaker 5: to stay in that mindset they do. You know again,
28:06
Speaker 5: that's it's everything is completely in their control. And I
28:09
Speaker 5: think once people realize that they don't quit as easily
28:13
Speaker 5: they pushed through difficult moments. They they don't accept failure,
28:17
Speaker 5: but realize that failure is part of the growth prospects
28:20
Speaker 5: and and it's a gift because it allows you to
28:23
Speaker 5: to evolve and adapt and get better in areas of
28:26
Speaker 5: your life that you need it.
28:29
Speaker 1: Chris Pronger off the ice, affable, charming, self deprecating. So
28:33
Speaker 1: how is it pronged you were such a mean son
28:35
Speaker 1: of a bitch on the ice?
28:38
Speaker 5: You know, it's get I do get asked that a lot,
28:42
Speaker 5: you know what, I I just love to play the
28:45
Speaker 5: game with a physical edge. Always played it, even as
28:48
Speaker 5: a young kid. That's how I always played. You know,
28:51
Speaker 5: somebody would take liberties with the teammate. I would make
28:54
Speaker 5: sure that I knew when that player, like I had
28:58
Speaker 5: a very good sense of who was on the ice,
29:00
Speaker 5: when they were coming on the ice, how they played,
29:03
Speaker 5: where I might be able to get at them, and
29:04
Speaker 5: then made sure that I was in that position at
29:07
Speaker 5: some point over the course of that game or a
29:11
Speaker 5: future game, to make sure I let that person know
29:14
Speaker 5: that that was unacceptable.
29:17
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was a party to one of
29:21
Speaker 2: your cross checks later in your career, which you probably
29:24
Speaker 2: don't remember, and those those became famous for just the
29:29
Speaker 2: ability to find the sweet spot between the shoulder pads
29:33
Speaker 2: and the elbow pad. And it is an art form.
29:36
Speaker 2: And is that something you had you learned as you
29:39
Speaker 2: were playing, like you said, or was it something that
29:41
Speaker 2: maybe a veteran or somebody taught you early on? Because
29:45
Speaker 2: it hurt like it hurt, you know.
29:48
Speaker 4: I studied the game.
29:50
Speaker 5: I studied I mean, as silly as it sounds, I
29:53
Speaker 5: studied players equipment.
29:55
Speaker 4: Everybody has pads in different areas.
29:58
Speaker 5: Everybody adds pads, whether they're adding slash guards or backpads
30:01
Speaker 5: or rib rib guards or what have you. I would
30:05
Speaker 5: take note.
30:06
Speaker 4: You know, you cross check a guy in the back
30:07
Speaker 4: and you hit a pad, You're like, oh, that's not
30:10
Speaker 4: normally there.
30:10
Speaker 5: So then you start feeling around with your thing, where's
30:13
Speaker 5: the hole? And then the next one goes right where
30:16
Speaker 5: that hole is? You know, Slade, You know, I'd see
30:20
Speaker 5: a guy off off a draw, and you know, especially
30:23
Speaker 5: guys that had the short cuffs, You're like, there's a
30:25
Speaker 5: lot of meat there waiting to be whacked, and you
30:28
Speaker 5: just give him a little complimentary just to let him
30:30
Speaker 5: know you're there, just to give him a little food
30:34
Speaker 5: for thought.
30:35
Speaker 4: The next time they're coming down your side, you might
30:37
Speaker 4: not want to do that.
30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good.
30:41
Speaker 1: Between Al mckinnessy you mentioned Prongs and Scott Needemar. Are
30:44
Speaker 1: you played with two the great defenseman hockey history. How
30:47
Speaker 1: are those guys similar and how are they different?
30:52
Speaker 5: I think how they're similar is they're they're both looked
30:54
Speaker 5: at as offensive players, but both were very good defensively.
31:00
Speaker 5: I think Al made himself more so into a better defender.
31:02
Speaker 5: I think Scotty always was just with his skating ability,
31:06
Speaker 5: but they both had a burning desire to compete and
31:11
Speaker 5: took offense that they were always categorized I think as
31:14
Speaker 5: offensive defenseman.
31:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and competed really hard defensively.
31:18
Speaker 5: You know, you look at you talk about how I
31:21
Speaker 5: used my stick. Al was pretty vicious with his stick
31:25
Speaker 5: as well. I think that was kind of a secret,
31:28
Speaker 5: if you will, Maybe not to opponents, but I think
31:31
Speaker 5: around the league, everybody looked at the big shot and
31:33
Speaker 5: his stats and the numbers and everything, but he had
31:37
Speaker 5: a little bite to his game and Scotty norm.
31:41
Speaker 2: As we as we call him nor.
31:44
Speaker 4: He had a little little sandpapers game too.
31:48
Speaker 5: I used to love when he got mad and you
31:50
Speaker 5: could kind of see him get a little feisty and
31:52
Speaker 5: grind on guys in the corner. And you know, I
31:55
Speaker 5: think that both those guys as leaders on our teams,
31:59
Speaker 5: that translated really well to the group because they were
32:03
Speaker 5: quietly aggressive and quietly competitive. And I think that kind
32:08
Speaker 5: of you have the vocal guys like myself, and then
32:11
Speaker 5: you have the strong, silent types like them, and I
32:14
Speaker 5: think that's a really good balance and really worked well
32:17
Speaker 5: in our.
32:18
Speaker 2: Locker rooms well, and I mean it didn't work, It worked,
32:23
Speaker 2: you know so much in Anaheim, especially when you were
32:26
Speaker 2: at Scotty, you win a Cup. I mean talk about that.
32:29
Speaker 2: You know, you guys had a great group of veterans,
32:32
Speaker 2: you surrounded some really good young talent and get slav Perry,
32:36
Speaker 2: did you know going into that season and like this
32:39
Speaker 2: is you know we got something here? Or did it
32:41
Speaker 2: really take some time? And because man Oman, did you
32:44
Speaker 2: just have I tell a lot of people like that
32:46
Speaker 2: team come playoff time. Was just one of the most
32:50
Speaker 2: well balanced Cup winning teams in recent memory. Just top
32:53
Speaker 2: to bottom, was so dominant, was so good and so
32:56
Speaker 2: fun to watch on that playoff, on that Cup winning run.
33:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, right from the jump when I got there, having
33:03
Speaker 5: playing against him in the Differen's finals when I was
33:05
Speaker 5: at Edmonton, knew their roster, knew how balanced they were,
33:09
Speaker 5: knew you know, the kind of missing piece if you will.
33:13
Speaker 5: So we had a one, A, one B on the
33:15
Speaker 5: back end with Scotty myself, the depth that we had
33:19
Speaker 5: up front. As you talked about the youth, we had
33:21
Speaker 5: the veteran line with the young Chris Kunitz, and then
33:24
Speaker 5: we had any McDonald at Taymuselane and then we had
33:27
Speaker 5: the young the young Bucks Penner gets laugh and Perry
33:31
Speaker 5: then we had our checking line with Mowen, Niedermar and Paulson,
33:35
Speaker 5: and then we had our greedy fourth line with we
33:38
Speaker 5: had Brad May, Todd Marshaunt, Sean Thornton, George Parows. We
33:43
Speaker 5: had some some young guys in Ryan Channon, Joey Motsko
33:47
Speaker 5: who played in the playoffs, played really well. Mark Cardigan
33:50
Speaker 5: came in and played. He hadn't played all season with us.
33:52
Speaker 5: We picked him up at the deadline, played in the minors,
33:55
Speaker 5: and then we had enough injuries that he got to
33:57
Speaker 5: play in the Stanley Cup finals. And to have those guys,
34:01
Speaker 5: you know, I speak of those three guys in particular
34:03
Speaker 5: Shannon and Hartigan. Shandy played a little bit with us
34:07
Speaker 5: in the regular season but played a lot in the miners.
34:09
Speaker 5: The other two played specifically in the minors, and then
34:13
Speaker 5: they came in in the playoffs we're are black aces
34:15
Speaker 5: and and played meaningful minutes.
34:17
Speaker 4: For us when we had injuries.
34:18
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, I think often those are the
34:21
Speaker 5: types of players in a in a playoff run, they
34:24
Speaker 5: get overlooked.
34:25
Speaker 4: You know. We picked up Brad May, that was our
34:27
Speaker 4: only trade at the deadline.
34:28
Speaker 5: And and what he provided for us from a from
34:31
Speaker 5: an energy side and a physicality side, and just a
34:34
Speaker 5: leadership and grit site. You know, obviously George and what
34:38
Speaker 5: he provided for us throughout the course of the season
34:40
Speaker 5: once we picked him up early on in the in
34:42
Speaker 5: the year from Colorado, but overall, I mean, other than
34:46
Speaker 5: myself and then those few roster changes, that was the
34:50
Speaker 5: lineup from the year before. So they had a group
34:52
Speaker 5: that was really coming together. And the moment I got
34:55
Speaker 5: there Burkie and Randy Carlisle and even the ownership, I
34:59
Speaker 5: was like, this is our our mission. This team is here,
35:02
Speaker 5: this team has been put in place to winn a
35:04
Speaker 5: Stanton a cup.
35:05
Speaker 4: Now go out and execute and take action.
35:07
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, right right from the beginning game,
35:10
Speaker 5: you know, we believed in one another, you know, we
35:13
Speaker 5: it was such a fun team to play on. You know,
35:15
Speaker 5: we could play tough, we could play finase, we could
35:17
Speaker 5: play a tight checking game.
35:19
Speaker 4: We could play however you wanted.
35:20
Speaker 5: And that was the joy in playing with with with
35:24
Speaker 5: that team is that we sometimes we'd just figure out
35:26
Speaker 5: now the other team wanted to play, and then we'd
35:28
Speaker 5: beat him at their own game.
35:30
Speaker 1: It's a fun time to be a Philly sports fan
35:31
Speaker 1: because the Eagles are defending Super Bowl champions three and
35:33
Speaker 1: Ozer right now. You were there in Philly and O seven,
35:35
Speaker 1: which was a beloved team because there are number eight
35:38
Speaker 1: seed prongs and you and Mike Richards and Jeff Carter
35:41
Speaker 1: and Claw Jerux and Simone Gania and James Van Riems,
35:43
Speaker 1: like take that team all the way to the Stanley
35:45
Speaker 1: Cup Final. What memories do you have about that run?
35:48
Speaker 4: It was?
35:48
Speaker 5: Uh, I mean other than the fact we lost, thank you,
35:54
Speaker 5: I'm going to bring mad us yeah.
35:56
Speaker 4: Whatever, Chicago, Uh No, it was. It was a it
36:00
Speaker 4: was a miracuous run. We we had.
36:02
Speaker 5: Such a great team. You talk about a lot of
36:04
Speaker 5: the young guys that we had that would go on
36:05
Speaker 5: to win in LA. You know, I think just getting
36:09
Speaker 5: into the playoffs, winning a shootout game against the Rangers
36:13
Speaker 5: to solidify our position and then to go on that run,
36:17
Speaker 5: you know, beat a good New Jersey Devil's team in
36:20
Speaker 5: the one eight seed. Then we played Boston down three zero,
36:24
Speaker 5: came back and won four to three in that one.
36:27
Speaker 5: Then Montreal, who had just knocked off Pittsburgh and Washington,
36:31
Speaker 5: you know, going to play them and and kind of
36:34
Speaker 5: put them in their place, and then you know we
36:38
Speaker 5: I think we got off to a good start in
36:40
Speaker 5: Game one against Chicago and then I don't know, I
36:43
Speaker 5: don't know what it was, just fell apart. It was
36:45
Speaker 5: a high score. I think six' five might have been
36:47
Speaker 5: the final score at a couple of. Junctures we had
36:49
Speaker 5: a lead in that game and kind of lost, it
36:52
Speaker 5: and then we had a late goal in game two
36:54
Speaker 5: to lose two to.
36:55
Speaker 4: One. Heartbreaker come, home we win a couple of, games.
36:59
Speaker 5: And and AND i think WHAT i was trying to
37:02
Speaker 5: impart on our on our, guys this is.
37:04
Speaker 4: It they're supposed to.
37:06
Speaker 5: WIN i always tell team they're supposed to win their home,
37:08
Speaker 5: games like that's why you have home and. Rope they're
37:10
Speaker 5: supposed to win their home. Games we win our home,
37:12
Speaker 5: games and then it's the best of three and anything can.
37:14
Speaker 5: Happen we lose a heartbreaker In game five In, chicago
37:18
Speaker 5: and then we lose that crazy overtime game Where caine
37:21
Speaker 5: scores from the.
37:21
Speaker 4: Corner and it's all.
37:23
Speaker 5: Over and right before that goal was, scored we had
37:26
Speaker 5: a couple of great a. Chances Anti yami comes up
37:31
Speaker 5: with like a couple.
37:31
Speaker 4: Of huge saves for them And.
37:33
Speaker 5: Nemo, yeah the rest is history for The, blackhawks but
37:38
Speaker 5: that kind of starts their run in the early twenty.
37:40
Speaker 5: Tens but you know it was you, know you look
37:44
Speaker 5: at you, know they had a Young buffalo and they
37:46
Speaker 5: had you, know Taves caane all kind of in their
37:51
Speaker 5: rising on their initial. Contracts you, know so you look
37:54
Speaker 5: at kind of where teams try to get to when
37:56
Speaker 5: they have those young players and they.
37:58
Speaker 4: Kind of bottom.
37:59
Speaker 5: Out they wanted they want to bottom out and dip
38:01
Speaker 5: right away and use them as kind of that key
38:04
Speaker 5: bounce point to to utilize their their rookie contracts and
38:09
Speaker 5: not get up against the cap right. Away but uh,
38:12
Speaker 5: uh you, know they had a lot of, good great
38:14
Speaker 5: players in their team as.
38:15
Speaker 2: Well they just found a way to. Win like we
38:17
Speaker 2: got swept by them that the the round, before so
38:21
Speaker 2: we kind of we warmed them up for you guys
38:24
Speaker 2: and really kind of well than we took Our we
38:27
Speaker 2: took our pound and. Flesh but you, know it's just
38:29
Speaker 2: one of those teams and you know THAT i feel
38:31
Speaker 2: like the belief and you talked about it With, anaheim
38:34
Speaker 2: but having that belief so important on AN nhl, team
38:37
Speaker 2: and when you have, it it can it can really
38:39
Speaker 2: carry you. Where you, know games you're not supposed to
38:42
Speaker 2: win their. Games you're not in. It you just find that.
38:44
Speaker 2: Way AND i feel like you've touched on it a
38:46
Speaker 2: few times even in your your. Coaching the way you
38:50
Speaker 2: teach people is like, listen it's it's within, you and
38:53
Speaker 2: you got to have that belief if you want to
38:54
Speaker 2: actually win or or be successful in hockey in. Life,
39:00
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i think as you.
39:00
Speaker 5: Talk about that, team they also had some. Failure they
39:03
Speaker 5: they nine in the conference finals Of. Detroit they had
39:07
Speaker 5: some learning, lessons some life, lessons if you, will along
39:11
Speaker 5: the way that allowed them to meet some of that
39:14
Speaker 5: adversity head, on to really understand what it's going to
39:18
Speaker 5: feel like and in order to build that belief in one,
39:21
Speaker 5: another showing up for one another and ultimately come out
39:24
Speaker 5: on the other side successful and win.
39:26
Speaker 4: Championships and you know.
39:28
Speaker 5: THAT i think those early losses really helped them create
39:32
Speaker 5: that great resilience that's going to be necessary in order
39:35
Speaker 5: to meet some of the adversity that you will face
39:37
Speaker 5: throughout the course of a long playoffs.
39:40
Speaker 4: In order to win a.
39:41
Speaker 1: Championship, okay one person on this chain knows the. Answer
39:44
Speaker 1: that person is not allowed to guess. Name the only
39:47
Speaker 1: player in hockey history to score a goal on a
39:49
Speaker 1: penalty shot in The cup. Final IMMEDIATELY i said, prongs
39:52
Speaker 1: which is correct because you AND i have discussed this
39:54
Speaker 1: two thousand and Six cup final Against.
39:56
Speaker 2: Carolina talk to, me, yeah you.
39:59
Speaker 5: Know what in the lead up to, that every after
40:03
Speaker 5: every pro, this we would always do.
40:05
Speaker 4: Shootouts we would always practice shootouts.
40:07
Speaker 5: And you, know if you, score you keep, going you,
40:10
Speaker 5: know one of those, deals AND i would always typically.
40:13
Speaker 5: SCORE i had my two. Moves the ONE i scored
40:17
Speaker 5: on In carolina was my main go to. Move but
40:19
Speaker 5: if the goalie didn't bite on my, angle THEN i
40:21
Speaker 5: would do something.
40:22
Speaker 4: Else BUT i would.
40:23
Speaker 5: Try to always either get get them to open their
40:26
Speaker 5: legs or go down or do something early get them to.
40:28
Speaker 5: Bite but in this particular, CASE i was out on
40:31
Speaker 5: the ice with the fourth, LINE uh and one of
40:35
Speaker 5: The carolina defensemen put their hand on the puck in the,
40:37
Speaker 5: crease which is an immediate penalty. Shot Mick, magoo if
40:41
Speaker 5: you look at the, video just happened to.
40:43
Speaker 4: Be like scaring straight down at.
40:47
Speaker 5: The situation and, immediately like as Only Mick it could,
40:51
Speaker 5: do start give them the old belly shot. Signal and
40:55
Speaker 5: AND i Think mac t had the Most craig McTavish
40:58
Speaker 5: was our. COACH i think he had the most faith
41:00
Speaker 5: in me based off seeing me in, practice AND i
41:04
Speaker 5: think maybe the fact THAT i was out there with
41:05
Speaker 5: the fourth.
41:05
Speaker 4: Line. Uh but the but the funniest part about.
41:09
Speaker 5: It three days before that first, game we were getting
41:13
Speaker 5: ready to go To, carolina and, UH i was in
41:16
Speaker 5: the weight room doing a lift AND i kind of
41:19
Speaker 5: tweaked my. Back so if you notice during during if
41:23
Speaker 5: you rewind the whole, CLIP i, SKATED i was on
41:27
Speaker 5: muscle relaxers AND i skated. DOWN i skated down to
41:31
Speaker 5: the fore end by our goalie and just kind of
41:34
Speaker 5: did a lap in the corner and was kind of
41:36
Speaker 5: zoning out waiting for him to blow the whistles SO
41:38
Speaker 5: i could. GO i was maybe taking a couple of
41:41
Speaker 5: deep breaths and trying to get in the dome in
41:46
Speaker 5: the moment goose broba and, uh you, know do my deep,
41:52
Speaker 5: breaths do my meditation and kind of get in the.
41:55
Speaker 5: Zone BUT i had a nice long run up to
41:58
Speaker 5: grabbing the puck and then kind of did did my
42:02
Speaker 5: did my, deed and, uh it Was it's. Fun it's
42:05
Speaker 5: nice to tell people that most. People IF i have
42:08
Speaker 5: somebody else ask it And i'm not, around they certainly
42:11
Speaker 5: won't get.
42:11
Speaker 2: That oh that's, great great. Stuff they're going to find
42:15
Speaker 2: all the little, Tidbits especially working in, media you're gonna
42:18
Speaker 2: get all these little they're gonna pull up all these.
42:19
Speaker 2: Stories but you, KNOW i wanted to ask you being in,
42:21
Speaker 2: media you, know and and what was kind of the
42:25
Speaker 2: biggest surprise for you and something that you didn't expect
42:29
Speaker 2: kind of jumping into this this industry and have you you,
42:33
Speaker 2: know you've obviously enjoy it because you're you're sticking with
42:36
Speaker 2: it and you're just rising up the ranks and doing
42:39
Speaker 2: so much incredible. Work so for, you, though what was
42:41
Speaker 2: like your big surprise jumping into the media. World, YEAH
42:45
Speaker 2: i don't.
42:45
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't know if it was a.
42:46
Speaker 5: SURPRISE i think the biggest thing THAT i did WAS
42:49
Speaker 5: i asked a lot of people THAT i knew in
42:52
Speaker 5: the industry a lot of, questions both you, know in
42:55
Speaker 5: other sports and obviously in.
42:57
Speaker 4: Hockey and the number.
43:00
Speaker 5: One, is If i'm going to do, Anything i'm going
43:02
Speaker 5: to do at one hundred percent And i'm to be all,
43:04
Speaker 5: in and it's, preparation it's making Sure i've got a
43:08
Speaker 5: full understanding of the, game it's implications kind of what's
43:12
Speaker 5: been going on with the.
43:13
Speaker 4: Team and then.
43:15
Speaker 5: The, biggest the biggest thing that THAT i tried to
43:19
Speaker 5: take away from. It Dan dirdorff was telling me the
43:22
Speaker 5: story when he first, started he was doing a game
43:26
Speaker 5: With Jack buck and and five minutes In Jack buck
43:31
Speaker 5: wrote a note and pushed it in front of him
43:34
Speaker 5: and he pointed down at the paper and he's, Like
43:37
Speaker 5: and at the first intermission he looked at it and he's, Like,
43:40
Speaker 5: dan you've Used you've already used the same word four. Times,
43:44
Speaker 5: wow you need to expand change your, vocabulary you, know
43:47
Speaker 5: start using a different, word whether we use certainly or
43:51
Speaker 5: tremendous or, whatever.
43:52
Speaker 4: Spectacular whatever word it.
43:54
Speaker 5: Is just add a little more depth to what you're,
43:57
Speaker 5: saying and, uh and what's the how and the?
44:00
Speaker 4: Why like how did this? Happen and why did this?
44:02
Speaker 5: Happen and and try to have the person listening on
44:07
Speaker 5: the other end or watching on the other end have
44:10
Speaker 5: a better understanding of what what they're seeing or hearing
44:12
Speaker 5: and why it. Happened and then how can that player
44:15
Speaker 5: either fix it or or why they're so good and
44:19
Speaker 5: how they created, it AND i think those two Things
44:22
Speaker 5: I've i've really taken a heart and really try to
44:25
Speaker 5: study and get better at because it is.
44:28
Speaker 2: Hard, yeah it. IS i USED i used incredible every
44:33
Speaker 2: single time for like my first, month AND i, LIKE
44:35
Speaker 2: i was, like for fuck, Sakes, jason so like looking up.
44:39
Speaker 2: Synonyms i'm looking up and Then i'm LIKE i could
44:41
Speaker 2: JUST i can't get out of my. Head i'm, like,
44:43
Speaker 2: well that play was oh, GOD i don't say.
44:46
Speaker 4: It, yes it was.
44:48
Speaker 2: Amazing this is amazing as.
44:52
Speaker 1: Well makes you Follow Chris ponger On instagram at The
44:54
Speaker 1: Chris Pronger chrisponger dot. Com and the book is coming
44:57
Speaker 1: out In april as, well so a Fourteenth.
44:59
Speaker 5: April, fourteen But i'll be doing a bunch of. Events
45:03
Speaker 5: i'll be doing a massive a couple of days In
45:07
Speaker 5: edmonton and the lead up to in lead up to,
45:09
Speaker 5: that so more to come on all that.
45:11
Speaker 2: Stuff that's, awesome your beauty, buddy thank, you this was.
45:14
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45:15
Speaker 1: You cinephon, sixth you're Remembering Robert, redford one of the
45:25
Speaker 1: great screen. Icons there was a time where he was
45:28
Speaker 1: unbelievable box office success and quickly acclaimed the. Seventies obviously people,
45:32
Speaker 1: know But Butch cassidy and The Sundance, kid which is
45:34
Speaker 1: where The Sundance Film institute stems from its, Name which
45:36
Speaker 1: is such an enormous thing That Robert redford did towards any.
45:39
Speaker 1: Movies thinking about your favorite, filmmakers whether It's Quentin tarantino
45:42
Speaker 1: Or Paul Thomas anderson of The Coen, brothers all of
45:44
Speaker 1: them born At, Sundance it's all due To Robert redford
45:47
Speaker 1: and his. Influence again as an, actor he's. Amazing as a,
45:49
Speaker 1: director he was. Amazing we're An oscar for Ordinary, people
45:52
Speaker 1: shocking uposite Of Ober Martin scorsese And Raging, bull but
45:55
Speaker 1: no hard.
45:55
Speaker 2: Feelings years, Later redford Made Quiz show and.
45:58
Speaker 1: He Cast scorsese in the, movie playing A jaritol salesman
46:01
Speaker 1: and a Fantastic Chemi who's wont one great scene With Rob.
46:03
Speaker 1: MORROW i heard the passing at nine am On. Tuesday
46:06
Speaker 1: two hours LATER i Rewatched Quiz, show which you haven't.
46:08
Speaker 1: Seen it came out in nineteen ninety. Four last year
46:10
Speaker 1: was the thirtieth anniversary Of redford's. Film it Stars Ray,
46:13
Speaker 1: fines was his first big movie After Schindler's this his
46:15
Speaker 1: first starring Role Rob, MOORE i previously mentioned From Northern,
46:18
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46:21
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46:24
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46:26
Speaker 1: one and it really is a morality play about truth
46:28
Speaker 1: and consequences and why they're so. Important tell talk to
46:31
Speaker 1: me about quiz. Show i'm not sure If jad has seen.
46:33
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46:35
Speaker 1: great this film. Is he's squinting at.
46:37
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46:40
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46:40
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46:44
Speaker 3: haven't seen that. Film ALTHOUGH i will say that the
46:47
Speaker 3: guy who owns the WORKSPACE i work in as kind
46:49
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46:52
Speaker 3: end of the room the other.
46:53
Speaker 2: Day he, goes no young people have heard Of Robert.
46:56
Speaker 2: Redford he was outraged that young people didn't know WHO i.
46:59
Speaker 1: Like that WAS i like those guys who get pissed
47:01
Speaker 1: off about they start shaking their fists to the.
47:02
Speaker 2: Heaven believe.
47:04
Speaker 3: IT i mean he he was going on a bit
47:06
Speaker 3: of a rat like this guy was the biggest star
47:08
Speaker 3: in the world at one. Point you, know oh my, God,
47:10
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47:14
Speaker 2: Movie THAT i gave it the big build, UP. Jd
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47:20
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47:23
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47:26
Speaker 2: did good. Things Robert redford was great in that. Movie
47:29
Speaker 2: i'll kick it to.
47:30
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47:32
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47:35
Speaker 1: he was such a good, ATHLETE. Jd he actually went
47:37
Speaker 1: to The eurosity Of colorado on a baseball. Scholarship he
47:40
Speaker 1: played With Don. Drysdale letter become one of the Great
47:42
Speaker 1: dodgers of all. Time good lefty Swing Barry levi's and
47:44
Speaker 1: the director, Said i'm not. Kidding there were times you'd
47:46
Speaker 1: Tell bob you have to. Miss but just as an,
47:48
Speaker 1: athlete he wanted to swing and hit, it swinging.
47:50
Speaker 2: Hitty he goes. Legit good lefty hitter and a good
47:52
Speaker 2: lefty throw. Right and that's.
47:53
Speaker 1: Important right when you watch these sports, movies you don't
47:55
Speaker 1: buy if the guy can't play.
47:56
Speaker 2: A little, Bit Robert redford could play a little, bit,
47:58
Speaker 2: well oh, yeah one hundred. Percent you know you look
48:01
Speaker 2: at Also Billy, chapel you, Know kevin another. One but
48:04
Speaker 2: it's so. FUNNY i feel like the baseball, movies the
48:07
Speaker 2: actors that play they're always. GOOD i feel like the
48:10
Speaker 2: majority of the time they're very. Good Bull durham's another,
48:13
Speaker 2: one but like the Natural Robert redford's. Great AND i
48:15
Speaker 2: just find when it's the football, movies you can never
48:19
Speaker 2: get a quarterback that can throw the goddamn. Football no
48:22
Speaker 2: actor can actually throw a tight. Spiral it all looks
48:25
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48:27
Speaker 2: Funny i'm, like why wouldn't You you're spending millions of,
48:30
Speaker 2: dollars why wouldn't you just bring in a guy to
48:33
Speaker 2: kind of teach them how to play the sport the
48:36
Speaker 2: right way at least have the mechanics. Down but, Yeah
48:39
Speaker 2: Robert redford a true, talent, amazing so many great, Movies,
48:43
Speaker 2: marvel he was In marvel. Too yeah.
48:45
Speaker 1: Yeah people Mentioned Captain America Winter soldier tweeting about.
48:49
Speaker 2: THAT i, go come, On that's WHY i said. IT
48:52
Speaker 2: i wanted to see your eyes roll in the back
48:53
Speaker 2: of your. Head you. Know my favorite movie of him
48:55
Speaker 2: Is Alec Pearson. Marvel, yeah When Your soldiers. Fantastic i'm,
49:00
Speaker 2: LIKE i can just imagine Rober referds and how AM
49:01
Speaker 2: i being remembered? Today?
49:02
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49:04
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49:07
Speaker 1: Do Three days of The, condra by the, WAY i
49:09
Speaker 1: never seen it's a really good. THRILLER i watched It cia,
49:11
Speaker 1: movie you, know AND A walk in The. WOODS i
49:13
Speaker 1: have to mention him And Nick nolty came at twenty.
49:15
Speaker 1: Fifteen it's not a great, film apparently it's a very good.
49:17
Speaker 1: Book but it was an amiable, watch ninety seven, minutes
49:19
Speaker 1: an easy, comedy kind of a grumpy old.
49:21
Speaker 2: Men him And Nick, nolty two ACTORS i like a.
49:23
Speaker 1: Lot it wasn't, Great i'll be, honest but it had its.
49:25
Speaker 2: Charms go. Ahead did you Like The? CASTLE i?
49:27
Speaker 1: Do The Last? CASTLE i Mean james Gandel Field.
49:29
Speaker 2: Last, Castle. APOLOGIZE i really liked that. Movie, Yeah Robert, redford,
49:34
Speaker 2: Great James gandelfoinie great in. It great. Movie there you, good,
49:38
Speaker 2: good good, good no good. Good. Good that was. Good.
49:41
Speaker 1: Paul i'm, LIKE i don't like JEW i tell you Ship,
49:47
Speaker 1: Jesus genie's not gonna drop The canadate on. Me but
49:50
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49:52
Speaker 1: is a prison. Warden i'm not turning that, off all?
49:54
Speaker 1: Right started THE nhl. Season we can't. Wait the trailer
49:57
Speaker 1: was released this week for season two Of Face Off
49:59
Speaker 1: inside THE, nhl The amazon series that got every hockey
50:03
Speaker 1: fans attention last. Year looks like season two could be
50:05
Speaker 1: just as good as season. One Sidney, crosby The Kachuck,
50:08
Speaker 1: Brothers Ajre, copetar the, Aforementioned Miko ranton And Seth, Jarvis
50:12
Speaker 1: Marc Andre, FLEURY. Jd you live the, game now you
50:14
Speaker 1: live in the. Media how accent are you for this
50:16
Speaker 1: series when it Returns october?
50:18
Speaker 2: Fourth, well it's about goddamn, Time Sidney, Crosby, like how
50:21
Speaker 2: long do you got to be the face of the
50:22
Speaker 2: league before you get out and do Something jesus like
50:26
Speaker 2: come on the biggest show it, well the biggest private
50:29
Speaker 2: superstars in the.
50:29
Speaker 1: League, Right, no you said any other?
50:31
Speaker 2: Sport what DO i know?
50:32
Speaker 1: About Patrick mahomes of The kelsey's or in THE nba
50:34
Speaker 1: About Steph curry mc crossby's from the guy for.
50:36
Speaker 2: Years you don't really know anything about the. Guy And
50:38
Speaker 2: i'm all for it at honestly early in his, career
50:42
Speaker 2: AND i understand what he was trying to. Do and
50:44
Speaker 2: again it's it's up to. You you do what you
50:47
Speaker 2: want to. Do but for the longest, time all the
50:51
Speaker 2: young guys that came in the league had to follow his,
50:53
Speaker 2: lead and it really DID i, THINK i don't want to,
50:57
Speaker 2: SAY i mean it kind of stunted the league in
51:00
Speaker 2: terms of like our media, presence and because you really
51:03
Speaker 2: If sid's not in, it you, know you can't just
51:06
Speaker 2: go out and, start you, know cheering and. Yelling and
51:10
Speaker 2: you look at McDavid's made like an earnest effort to
51:12
Speaker 2: kind of maybe be a little bit more personal and
51:14
Speaker 2: be out in the media. Spotlight SO i think it's
51:17
Speaker 2: a good job For sid to do. It I've i've
51:19
Speaker 2: heard nothing but great things from, guys like he's an awesome,
51:22
Speaker 2: guy he's really, funny AND i understand he wants to
51:25
Speaker 2: be a private. MAN i get, it but there's also you,
51:28
Speaker 2: know with great power comes great responsibility and nice you
51:32
Speaker 2: are the face of the league for such a long.
51:34
Speaker 2: Time you're ushering in the next generation and maybe that's
51:38
Speaker 2: what THE nhl needed at that, time but it needs
51:41
Speaker 2: people to be out. There you want to try to
51:43
Speaker 2: build up the league because you, know the more built
51:46
Speaker 2: up we, are the more media presence we, have the
51:49
Speaker 2: more money everybody. MAKES i know everybody, goes, well it's
51:51
Speaker 2: not about the, money but, yes those guys don't necessarily
51:54
Speaker 2: need it because they're always going to make the top.
51:55
Speaker 2: End but you got to think about the guys that
51:57
Speaker 2: are playing fourth, line third, line that make. Minimum that
52:01
Speaker 2: minimum jumps up a little. Bit so now you're helping
52:03
Speaker 2: out the next era and next generation of young players
52:07
Speaker 2: that are trying to make their their mark in the
52:09
Speaker 2: league because you're just lifting them all up because of
52:11
Speaker 2: the media stuff and. Sponsorship SO i, think goodbye, him
52:15
Speaker 2: AND i think it's going to be. GREAT i can't
52:16
Speaker 2: wait to watch, it or you, know watch a little
52:18
Speaker 2: bit of it and then go turn To. Seinfeld but
52:20
Speaker 2: fantastic to. That the fans are going to absolutely love.
52:23
Speaker 1: It, well hopefully he's watched a couple of bus before
52:26
Speaker 1: you get to a show about. Nothing by the, way
52:27
Speaker 1: The kachuck brothers being followed At Four, nations which is.
52:30
Speaker 1: FANTASTIC i mean going out in death Watching keith watching his.
52:32
Speaker 2: Brothers what they did is going to be.
52:34
Speaker 1: Awesome Spak, TRUCKS i. Agree if you're a hockey like A,
52:38
Speaker 1: kaswog event ever knows The, kachucks they, wait well know anything.
52:41
Speaker 2: Else, matthew you talk about getting out, There he's doing it,
52:45
Speaker 2: well this is.
52:45
Speaker 1: Great he's not gonna be in The panthers lamp Until
52:47
Speaker 1: december do to a lower body, injury but that did
52:50
Speaker 1: not stop him from making appearance of ESPN's College Game Is.
52:53
Speaker 1: Saturday went this is as weak as it gets in
52:55
Speaker 1: college football to two Time cup, champion appearing as the
52:58
Speaker 1: show's guest, picker wearing A HURRICANES t shirt and admit
53:01
Speaker 1: it was the first time doing homework since ninth.
53:03
Speaker 2: Grade his football picks went six and. One the guy was.
53:06
Speaker 1: Awesome he did it with the when he Picked John
53:08
Speaker 1: sena to win At Russell. PALOOZA i love Seeing Matthew
53:11
Speaker 1: kachuck at college game did WHEN i worked AT Espnjd
53:14
Speaker 1: College football And College game d is as big as
53:16
Speaker 1: a catch you always.
53:16
Speaker 2: Wanted who was the guest.
53:17
Speaker 1: Picker gonna be you, Know Katie perry one, week whatever
53:20
Speaker 1: celebrity it might.
53:20
Speaker 2: Be this is a big deal That Matthew kachuck was the.
53:22
Speaker 2: Guy it's, awesome it's, huge great for the. Sport that
53:26
Speaker 2: was when McAfee jump jumped off the diving, board, right that's.
53:29
Speaker 2: Right that was pretty. Funny oh, Man uh, yeah six and.
53:33
Speaker 2: One i'm a little pissed he missed On Russell. Palooza
53:35
Speaker 2: even Though RUSSELL plusa was an absolute. Flop what did
53:39
Speaker 2: you like about? It it just wasn't all the hype build.
53:42
Speaker 2: Up didn't love, it didn't love the, match you, KNOW
53:44
Speaker 2: i just didn't love the way the matches played. Out
53:47
Speaker 2: AND i just think it it they. Missed they they
53:50
Speaker 2: swung and, missed and it's not always a, winner BUT
53:53
Speaker 2: i expect more TO Ww if you're gonna call Some Russell,
53:56
Speaker 2: palooza got to make sure it's you're, hitting you're hitting your.
53:59
Speaker 2: Mark but six and, one it was funny what he
54:03
Speaker 2: said that candid Moment Matthew chuck where he's like this
54:05
Speaker 2: the first TIME i did, homework and SINCE i was
54:07
Speaker 2: like In june, HERE i was, like that's, great it's.
54:10
Speaker 2: Good it's it's good for the game and all that
54:13
Speaker 2: stuff's good for the. League SO i endorse it one hundred.
54:16
Speaker 1: Percent he's got a great personality's willing to show it.
54:18
Speaker 1: Off now we know you have a soft spopera hockey
54:20
Speaker 1: of course in the state Of. Arizona So i'm assuming
54:22
Speaker 1: you're excited to hear. That Andrea, done the wife Of
54:24
Speaker 1: counties Legend Shane, done the mother Of counties Draftic Josh,
54:27
Speaker 1: done will be the chair of a new advisory committee
54:30
Speaker 1: dedicated with THE nhl back to The. Desert what do
54:33
Speaker 1: you make Of Andrea done's? Selection is there a chance
54:35
Speaker 1: THE nhl returns To arizona someday where you Played baby come?
54:40
Speaker 1: Back you could do?
54:42
Speaker 2: It oh, Me, yes we're coming. Back it's not a
54:47
Speaker 2: matter of, if it's, when and we're making it. Back
54:50
Speaker 2: and the don family they have done more for the
54:54
Speaker 2: city Of phoenix Than Jackie moon did For, Flint. Michigan,
54:58
Speaker 2: WOW i tell you what. AMAZING i love that it's
55:03
Speaker 2: his wife that's gonna kind of beer had this AND
55:05
Speaker 2: i did reach out To Shane doan immediately and, said
55:09
Speaker 2: anything you need ANYWHERE i can slot. In i'd love
55:13
Speaker 2: to be a part of This, uh he didn't answer me,
55:15
Speaker 2: back so he ghosted. Me but oh, BRUTAL i like to.
55:18
Speaker 2: Ye BUT i did send the text and the number To.
55:22
Speaker 2: Pliver the.
55:23
Speaker 1: Number the number did Say i'm officially out On Shane.
55:27
Speaker 1: Done you can't respond to my buddy to, Brs i'm
55:29
Speaker 1: out On Shane.
55:29
Speaker 2: Doone shane's. World Shane done's one of The Shane doon's
55:32
Speaker 2: one of the. Guys cannot respond to you a million
55:34
Speaker 2: times and he's still the nicest guy, ever doesn't. Swear amazing.
55:38
Speaker 2: Guy i'm so. Excited. UH i really THINK i heard
55:44
Speaker 2: initially when The coyotes left that this was going to
55:46
Speaker 2: be the you, know it was going to be The
55:48
Speaker 2: doan family that was gonna really work their. Magic AND
55:51
Speaker 2: i think it's always been The doan. FAMILY i, Mean
55:54
Speaker 2: Shane do and his, wife they're so integral to that.
55:56
Speaker 2: COMMUNITY i think the connections they, have they're the people they.
56:00
Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean what better face to have other than
56:02
Speaker 2: that family to kind of bring about miss Your coyote
56:05
Speaker 2: and Missus Coyote Andrea. Done AND i just think it's it's.
56:10
Speaker 2: Great now they've a lot of hurdles to. Jump you
56:13
Speaker 2: gotta we gotta get a. Rink it's gonna take at
56:15
Speaker 2: least three to five years for, that SO i don't
56:17
Speaker 2: expect anything before five. Years but we're, coming we're moving and.
56:21
Speaker 2: Grooving community is. Strong there's a lot of people there
56:24
Speaker 2: that want. IT i mean within that. Community i'm In,
56:26
Speaker 2: Flagstaff arizona right, now But i'm typically In, phoenix in
56:29
Speaker 2: the heart of, it in the, Heartland, graceland and they want.
56:34
Speaker 2: It the people want. It people want, hockey their kids want,
56:37
Speaker 2: hockey parents want. Hockey we're gonna get. Hockey give it to.
56:40
Speaker 1: Me so the response from the other set would, be,
56:42
Speaker 1: well it didn't work, before why would it work?
56:44
Speaker 2: Now, oh, Stadium well. Not the biggest thing is the
56:48
Speaker 2: stadium has to be in the right. Area you, know
56:50
Speaker 2: you cannot put it In, glendale cannot put it in
56:53
Speaker 2: the worst city to put it, in In. Phoenix, apologies but
56:57
Speaker 2: you Know glendale is not the spot for a hockey.
57:00
Speaker 2: Team you gotta get it In. Scottsdale got to get
57:03
Speaker 2: in the, valley in The East valley where all the fans,
57:05
Speaker 2: are where the money, is and the fans will come
57:08
Speaker 2: intros and they will be their. Lockstocked when it was At,
57:11
Speaker 2: mullet The Moulay arena In, Tempe. Arizona people were. Coming
57:15
Speaker 2: it was. FULL i know that's only you, know twenty
57:18
Speaker 2: five hundred, seats but it will fill. Up we will
57:21
Speaker 2: get eighteen Thousand Flint Michigan. MEGABLE i love.
57:27
Speaker 1: The, passion love the passion for the desert, dogs and
57:30
Speaker 1: perhaps hockey.
57:30
Speaker 2: Will return To arizona one. Day thanks so much.
57:35
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