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How Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic Can Have One Leg Up on Journalistic Integrity By Avoiding A ‘Pentagon Papers’ moment 3-26-25 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett. A bit later today, we're
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  Speaker 1: There are six episodes in.
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  Speaker 2: But before we do that, I want to rock and
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  Speaker 2: roll today talking about this group chat disaster that Jeffrey Goldberg,
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  Speaker 2: who was somehow invited into this really top secret they say,
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  Speaker 2: no classified, but it should have been.
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  Speaker 1: A top secret chat.
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  Speaker 2: That the Defense Department was having over the Hoothy airstrikes.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently.
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  Speaker 2: He's telling this podcast The Bulwark that he's weighing I
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  Speaker 2: should release more of this group text than he was
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  Speaker 2: inavertly invited into, because he says he feels it's the
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  Speaker 2: idea that we should take national security information seriously. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I get he might be having to trying to have
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  Speaker 2: his Watergate moment here and his.
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  Speaker 1: Or I should say, Pentagon papers moments here.
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  Speaker 2: Right, This is what it feels like all over again
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  Speaker 2: in the digital age, though, but the Pentagon Papers was
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  Speaker 2: telling us something we should know.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about plans to bomb an enemy, should those
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  Speaker 2: plans be truly unraveled. I mean it could if he
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  Speaker 2: does this, it could damage our national security by just
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  Speaker 2: releasing these text messages and this transcript. Jeffrey Goldberg, this
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  Speaker 2: is not the Pentagon papers in the digital age. This
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  Speaker 2: is you take a manage of being invited in. You Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you were invited in. They had a breach of security, YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: But now let's drop it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the drummontician says there's not anything sensitive in there.
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  Speaker 2: But if he does release more of this text threat
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  Speaker 2: and transcript, this would feel like inactive treason.
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  Speaker 1: Some would say it is Pentagon paper is part two
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  Speaker 1: in the.
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  Speaker 3: Digital age, but I would say this would be especially
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  Speaker 3: if he names names and drops the whatever he claims.
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  Speaker 1: Is in that chat.
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  Speaker 2: As a secret stuff. This will put our country at risk.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't care about the Atlantic's left leanings. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care what Goldberg got to say. But when you
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  Speaker 2: start saying you want to release more of a very
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  Speaker 2: secure chat line that has some sensitive information, I have
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  Speaker 2: to believe, even though the Trump missions are not, it
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  Speaker 2: does weigh into treason, an act of treason which I
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  Speaker 2: feel would be committed here if Jeffrey Goldberg goes ahead
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  Speaker 2: and releases these documents, Okay, the transcript, I mean, shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: you want the security of our nation to be safe
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  Speaker 2: and locked up.
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  Speaker 1: And not exposed.
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  Speaker 2: You get privileged information, Okay, you leak out a few
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  Speaker 2: emoji things and whatnot. You're talking some serious crap that
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  Speaker 2: should not be revealed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care about the US folks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more thinking about what our enemies will look at it,
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  Speaker 2: like right, So if these information gets exposed to our enemies,
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  Speaker 2: it would be almost like twenty twenty one when we
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  Speaker 2: botch the Afghanistan with role because they'll see how weak
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  Speaker 2: even our security into group texts is.
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  Speaker 1: God forbid, and I say, hacking into it.
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  Speaker 2: So, Jeffrey Goldberg, you're not really doing journalistic work. If
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  Speaker 2: you release this stuff, you're actually damaging national security. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care about his ties and feelings toward the left.
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  Speaker 2: I care about how he's protecting this information as a
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  Speaker 2: person who's an American first, and confidentiality second. He was
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  Speaker 2: very much invited by Mike Waltz and I still don't
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  Speaker 2: know why, but it was very much confidential information.
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  Speaker 1: And is in confinentiality and sources a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, remember back in the day, everybody was claiming
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  Speaker 2: they had sources, but no one would reveal them for
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  Speaker 2: protecting their sources. Well, this would not be protecting their source,
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  Speaker 2: your source, Jeffrey Goldberg. This would be exposing not only
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  Speaker 2: your source as already has, but it also exposes are
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  Speaker 2: plans that enemies should not know. And I think if
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  Speaker 2: you release these, Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, you are
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  Speaker 2: actually and I just had the term in front of
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  Speaker 2: me just a second ago, but what you're actually doing
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  Speaker 2: is you're putting your country at risk by trying to
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  Speaker 2: be this journalistic hero.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's not the time to be a hero.
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  Speaker 2: I get the Pentagon papers, I get that whole thing,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe you're trying to be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Now, but.
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  Speaker 2: This feels so much more complicated.
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  Speaker 1: And some say, well, thank god I didn't release it
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  Speaker 1: before the attack.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but now that it's out there and you've had
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  Speaker 2: your time, let it be. You might be holding keys
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  Speaker 2: to some national security secrets. That's true, but wouldn't you,
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  Speaker 2: for the betterment of the country want to keep that
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  Speaker 2: top secret? And I get you have a First Amendment right,
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  Speaker 2: and I get you were wrongfully invited in. But to
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  Speaker 2: take it another step and releasing more in fact, the
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  Speaker 2: full transcript, which could have some real implications, that's an
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  Speaker 2: act of treason.
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  Speaker 1: So have one leg up for journalists.
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  Speaker 2: Protect journalistic integrity by protecting these texts, and we can
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  Speaker 2: move on. For the betterment of the country. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's better to just all right, did your journalistics and
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  Speaker 2: duty you said, how, well, there was a glitch a
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  Speaker 2: breach that you were allowed in. But let's not go
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  Speaker 2: further and say, well, here's what's actually in.
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  Speaker 1: The text threat.
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  Speaker 2: Because there might be some real national security issues in
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  Speaker 2: there that should not be released.
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  Speaker 1: And just the whole idea of releasing war plans.
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  Speaker 2: Texts, it doesn't sound very American. And Okay, if you're
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  Speaker 2: a disgruntled military guy or you know nsa guy like
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  Speaker 2: Edward Snowan or Chelsea Manning, Okay, you're disgruntled, you're releasing
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  Speaker 2: all that information. But you're supposed to be a journalist,
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg.
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  Speaker 1: Not not a leaker. You're supposed to have the highest
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  Speaker 1: journalistic integrity.
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  Speaker 2: So protect your integrity and the integrity of the Defense
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  Speaker 2: Department and the integrity of our nation by keeping those
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  Speaker 2: texts confidential and show other journalists to have one leg
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  Speaker 2: up in journalism by that example of confidentiality of sources,
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  Speaker 2: of realizing the national security threat that you could.
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  Speaker 1: Have if you release these texts. That's my thought for now.
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