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But about Bound Bangor management Fantasy hockey
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podcast. Boo.
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Wow, wow, wow. Woo, wow, you got me.
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Every time I do a different 1, you always pretend to be Jackie.
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I know. What's gonna happen?
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Welcome into Bangor Management, the fantasy hockey podcast with
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Josh and Kevin. And once again, I'm mentioning
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him because I have to. Don't forget him, He's real.
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Contractually obligated to mention him.
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He's he's our third co-host. Jake Jika is still in Japan, but
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is listen currently flying back probably as we speak.
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So that's that's pretty fun that you guys listen.
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If you were part of the Bang Gang past two weeks ago, you
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remember Jakey. He was.
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A. Lovely part of the.
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Trio, we actually have some fans who like I have no idea who
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Jiggy is. Like they've already started
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listening in the last like 2 weeks and they're like who is
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this guy they keep mentioning it started every episode.
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Well, listen, if you're in the last two weeks and you've only
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ever known just Josh and I, we do have a third Co host.
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Um, Josh and I are the best Co host.
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So JQ was. Able to discord I was told I'm
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the 4th best so. No, no, no, he said that.
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All he said was Jackie is definitely one of the top 2, so
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he doesn't have biggest. Which one of us is in the top 2?
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Yeah, but then I said I don't want to know where I rank in
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this and he said 4th so. Somebody's third.
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We gotta find out who that is. But today we're covering our
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Week 13 by low sell, high episode.
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Listen, this is the episode that everybody's looking forward to
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every week, because who doesn't not want to talk about trades?
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All I want to talk about. Ever.
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It's all I want to talk about. Is also a guy in our league for
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about trades for I think 4 days straight like non-stop
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messaging. We didn't even make it coming to
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an agreement on anything at the end of it.
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I was like this was great. Thanks for thanks for spending
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time talking about this with me. And he's like, honestly, this
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was fun. Let's do it again.
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To pull off a trade later in the season, that's all it does.
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Yeah, when you have a good trade, talk like that with
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somebody is just like, you guys are itching for something to
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happen. Absolutely.
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And this was over the holiday break.
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So listen, you guys ruined Christmas for your families by
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talking trades. Already did that by making my
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annual trade with Jakey. So it's.
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Actually, listen, this is a bilateral herbicide, so we have
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to talk about this, but Josh is talking with this other guy
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about trains for like 4 days and then randomly like I just, I'm
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with my family. Like I'm not looking at my phone
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at all. Like I'm off the grid a little
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bit and I just pull up my phone to see like Jackie text me.
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Like I think I'm gonna do this trade.
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And Josh, I see a text from like two hours ago where Josh is just
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like, oh, I'm gonna like Jake is sending me something or
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whatever. And then next thing you know, a
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deal is done. And I'm just like, what just
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happened? Like Jake is not even in the
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same not even close at the same time zone as us right now.
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Like he's in Japan and the man just made a trade.
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But how about you tell us how the trade went down, Josh, and
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what the what the trade is? OK, I'll uh, so the trade was
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well, first of all, how it went down was that I was just asking,
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you know, I'm always like, you know, we've all got our own
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opinions, but I also trust my cost opinion sauce And he talks
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to this other guy. And so I'm asking the boys like,
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what do you think about this or that, whatever.
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And I don't know where Jake's just like like, oh, if you're
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thinking trades, like what about this?
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And like, I'm like looking at it, I'm like, wait a second,
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like I actually would do that, you know?
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And so then I started texting Jake and I'm like, obviously you
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try and get as much value as you can have the trade.
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I'm like, you would you do this? Would you do that?
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We go back and forth for a bit, but we kind of just end up
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blinding back on the original one that he sent me cuz, and I
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was like, you know, I think that's actually a pretty
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reasonable 1. So, so we, we did it.
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The trade was I sent away Matthews and Zetterlund and he
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gives me Celebriti and Holloway. And it's like, normally I don't
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like being on the like, I'm definitely, I'm fully aware I
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sold low on Matthews and I bought high on celebrity.
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So I normally don't like to be the buy high guy and sell low
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guy. Um, in my mind, I just think
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that like if Matthews bumps up .3 points and celebrating bumps
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down .3 points, then celebrate is still higher than Matthew.
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So like I feel like the difference was so high that even
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if they both like go closer to their, you know, where they,
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you'd expect them, it's still a win.
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But always injured for the next month, Jakey was interested in
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Sutherland. He agreed.
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He said I prefer Sabrina Matthews, but I want Nederland.
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And I was like, I'm fine with that.
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So that's kind of how it. Picked up settle in for $1.00
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off waivers 3 days prior to this trade.
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Just putting putting that out there, but I.
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Think I get Holloway in my team, the most important part of the
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trade. I finally, I made it my
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signature pick. A lot of people grabbed him and
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then he's been underwhelming this year.
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And I was like, you know what? I gotta get in with with the
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guys who who believed in me because I still believe.
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I'm still a believer. His bangs have been unreal.
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The points will come. Holloway all the way, baby.
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I was going to say maybe Holloway just needed a change of
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scenery and by that he just did they be treated to Josh's
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fantasy team so he can do what he did last year while he was on
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Josh's fantasy team. So.
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For all, I mean, all the way, like I'm thinking Saint Louis,
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every time they've been successful the last couple of
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years, it happens after winter break.
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I'm thinking he's coming off. He's gonna be out a bit for
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injury, right? So maybe it'll be like a mental
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reset. Robert Thomas has started being
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hot. Jordan Carver was probably on
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his way out. So maybe that opens some spot in
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deployment for Halo. I don't know.
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There's a lot of moving pieces. All I know is Holloway can't be
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worse than he's been. And the bankers have been
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unreal. So even if I get him and he's
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just a shot guy, I'm pretty happy with that.
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And the thing with Holloway too, is like we've talked about how
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bad he's been, but we also have to compare him like you got him
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in the street for five years. Orland, who I think has been hot
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for like 9 days and like he's been his bangers.
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He's been a double double. Like he's been pretty good.
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He has a high shot volume, but he's never cracking the power
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play 1. So you know, he's not even in
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the range of outcomes for him. And now he's in the top 6, but
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he's one line deployment change away from being back on waivers,
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you know. So listen, I'm not going to say
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this is my favorite trade that Jake ever made.
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He still acquired Austin Matthews.
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So he. Still got the best player in the
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trade. Like technically, you know,
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like, I mean, he's drafted 4th overall.
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If we I know celebrity was a second round pick, but if we're
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doing a a draft today, I. Think third round.
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It was like Jake was a G had the 103 or something.
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So he was like the one the two three turn, let's say.
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Yeah, but if we're doing a redraft today, I think celebrity
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gets drafted before Matthews. So let me that having one by
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local high. Points per game on the season,
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like we're it's week 13 right now, guys, it's like.
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It's pretty exciting. Samples like there.
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I will say I'm more used to being worried after pulling off
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a tree because I usually do the buy low portion and usually
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right after a trade. If you're feeling not great
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about it, there's usually like. That's what happens when you do
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the buy low and sell high right? But usually over time it ends up
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being a win for you. If you're feeling great about a
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trade right after it happened, there's a chance you just got
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sold high on and like and sold go on bought high.
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So so we'll see what how it shakes out.
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Matthews in the past has been elite for for our league,
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especially because he's like blocks face off win shots in
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addition to the points. But at least I have to worry
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about the headache anymore. I was gonna say I got Toronto
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right now is a messy situation that it's just hard to want to
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have pieces of that it's but if you could acquire them on the
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low, it's great. You just did not acquire them on
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the low. He paid top dollar for him.
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So that's the that's the crux of the thing here.
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But listen, that's in a in a league like this, you're playing
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with other guys and know what they're doing.
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You're not going to be able to by law on everybody.
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That's a biology because guys are aware of the situation and
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they're not always pressed to to get them off their roster,
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right? Like we're all playing for the
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playoffs at the end of the day. So unless you're really worried
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about missing the playoffs, like I will hold my Esper brat for
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throughout this stretch, I'm not trying to get him off my roster,
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you know? So you gotta pay, you gotta pay,
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you gotta pay sometimes. And you just gotta have a
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conviction in your take. And maybe you're not like
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extracting the most value, but you're still making your team
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better at the end of the day. And hopefully that's what Jackie
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did, and hopefully that's not what you did, but Josh, you.
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Know too. Many first round picks for me to
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root for his team right now. But I I know that I am enemy
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enemy number one done to Kevin. He probably has like a like a
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picture of me with like a dark. Horse and if you have mixed dry
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on his team, McDavid and dry settle on his one team.
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But he also had Austin Matthews, which is now celebrity and also
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still has David Pasternak. So it's just kind of like too
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many riches for one person in my opinion.
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But listen. Give me more.
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Well, maybe you'll be able to acquire more after we go through
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this Buy Low sell high episode. Yeah, exactly.
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Let's let's dive in because I. Think it's Wally gagging but I
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think people want to hear about the legal record changes,
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especially between two banker management Co hosts.
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I think it's pretty fun to talk about, so hopefully the viewers
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would enjoy that. When Jake is back we'll have to
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ask him his take on how he feels.
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I feel like he had instant regret after after hearing he
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like texted me after the treaty was like what do you think?
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I give him my honest opinion which I just shared on the
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podcast where I think he gave up a lot of value and took on a lot
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of risk and he just lost like haggled injury.
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He just lost Jarvis injury. But that's also why, right?
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He has like 5 injured guys. He wanted Holloway office team
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because he's always out for the next month and he's like the
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worst of his injured guys. Yeah, so.
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I think he could have better than Sutherland.
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Oh, absolutely. I mean, look, I I would prefer
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Holloway to Sutherland, but but he wanted her Setterlund for
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Holloway and I was like, sure, I'll take that.
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Yeah, I guess I'll take that too.
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Alright, let's go to our two weeks ago update.
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So two weeks ago we recommended Willie Styles, William Nylander
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as a buy low. Since then, a six games, two
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goals, 4 assists, 6 points back to point per game.
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One we recommended him, he was putting up straight zeros for
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almost five straight games. He was playing awful.
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I will say we got helped out of it because he put up a four
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point game recently that kind of made.
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So it's not like the turnaround was immediate.
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He's still a buy low. It's tough after that four point
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game though, So the window might have closed but but he still
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hasn't been that great. So I think you still have the
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opportunity to buy them now, maybe not as low as 2 weeks ago.
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Um, then we had Josh Morrissey since then, five games played,
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zero goals, 3 assists, 3 points, still hasn't made the full turn
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around. But again, also like to preface
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this, it's been the holiday break, right?
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So there's not as much like we say this is a 2 weeks ago
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update, but it really kind of feels like a one week ago update
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because one of the weeks there haven't been any games really.
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So a lot of these are, you know, they take, they usually take
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about two weeks to to turn into a win and turn into what you're
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looking for. So Morsi's still a buy low.
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Um, I don't think it might sound like a cop out when it doesn't
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immediately turn around and we're still a Viola.
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It wasn't a wrong choice, but that's just how it is.
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It's not always an immediate turnaround.
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So we'll tell you if we ever think that it's an actual like,
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OK, you know, we were wrong about this one.
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Like, I don't think it would happen because we're pretty good
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at this, but but what we're, we hold ourselves accountable.
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Don't worry about it. And lastly, we had John Tavares.
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He played games, one goal, one assist, 2 points.
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Again, this whole Leafs team is still very much by Lowe's.
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They just fired the power play coach IC Brew Bay going soon,
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even though they said before the holidays boobies and true living
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jobs are not in jeopardy. But a lot of times them saying
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that means that they are in jeopardy.
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Yeah, exactly. So I think there's some stuff
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going on with Toronto. A lot of their guys are going to
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get back to closer to what their averages are.
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They may not be as good as they were last year, but they're
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going to be as bad as they've been.
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Yeah, exactly. I'm still trying to buy all
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these Toronto guys, but like Jackie just bought but low on
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Matthews. I put in quotation marks where
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he he did pay, pay pretty penny, but that's also league
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dependent. Like in a lot of leagues you're
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able to get Matthews for a lot cheaper than that and I'm still
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trying to acquire these Toronto assets on my team for the
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correct price. Like I'm not trying to send the
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some of the hall for these guys because they're bylaws are gonna
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be better. I mean, like a week ago Kevin
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and I were discussing a possible Austin Matthews plus for Brady
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and I think it could have got done.
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But then like I waited a week, Matthews did nothing and Brady
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had in the same week. And Kevin was like, actually,
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let's, let's not do. That was I was.
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I was already not interested before.
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That's not true. You were you were down for like
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if if the plus was like. Someone like relatively good,
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like I was interested for sure. That's it.
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Yeah, I would be interested in acquiring a top pick, but I'm
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also like, I think at the end of the day, you know that like in
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our league specifically with all the categories that we have plus
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pins like Brady is just a Unicorn.
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I don't know. He's sick, yeah, but but yeah, I
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mean, that was there. I think I'm actually happier
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with with how it worked out because.
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You're giving A+ in. Like yeah, exactly.
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So we'll see. But anyways, just to show that
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Kevin is interested in buying a low on these these Toronto guys.
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He's not just saying it. So I'm thinking about ourselves.
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Yeah, exactly. And we had our sell highs from 2
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weeks ago, Carter Hagey. Since then, six games played two
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goals three says five points. You're looking at that like 5
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and 6. That's not bad.
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When we recommended him he was at like 1.3 points per game.
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This is and still this is we said the big drop off is going
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to come when Chuck comes back and he gets bumped off to our
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play 1. So I'm still we said I went
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pretty hard on this one. I think 2 weeks ago I said buy
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New Year's. I don't want anyone in our
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discord having Carter vague, so I still stand by that.
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This is I don't want him on my team.
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So hopefully you guys can pull some stuff there.
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Then we had an awesome Kadri 5 games played two goals, one
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assist, three points. Since then, he was on wire as
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well, so 3 points and five games is way below what he was doing.
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I really hope that people sold. I don't think it's too late to
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sell either on either of these guys.
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Like I think you still like they haven't completely dropped off
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yet, but and you still should exactly because it's gonna keep
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going down. And then we have Darren Radish.
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Since then, five games played, two goals, 3 assists, 5 points.
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You're like, he's still applying for game.
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He's still the GOAT. Look, when we talked about him,
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we said that he wasn't going to lose all his value.
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He was still going to be someone we're happy to have on our team.
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But this is still super unsustainable.
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The only guys who got a point per game as a defenseman are
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like Macar when Hughes you know Bouchard, Werenski, like even
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Dolly doesn't get a point per game.
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He got .93 last year. Like Darren Raddysh is not going
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to be a top five defenseman in the league.
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I'm sorry I know you don't want to hear it as a radish holder
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and we love radish on the pod but but this is still a big sell
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high and the windows not closed yet.
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Yeah. I mean, listen, all these guys
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that we mentioned are so highs, still sell highs and I think you
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still have the opportunity to sell high on all of them.
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Like they haven't slowed down that much and all the data we
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listed as by laws, I think I still buy lows.
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So listen, it's just one of those weeks that the results are
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taking a little longer to. Think it's the holidays like
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it's that's a big part of it. Just hasn't had as much sample
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size. And even then, like 2 weeks,
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yeah, we're really happy when it happens in two weeks, but
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sometimes it takes 3 or 4 weeks and that's also normal.
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Like we mentioned, yes, for Brad as a by law, we mentioned
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Brandon does the Bible throughout the whole season.
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And I feel like it's only now that he's starting to finally
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bounce back and Brad now with, you know, New Jersey getting
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healthy, I think he's on the up and up as well.
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So sometimes just gotta be patient.
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We always got to trust the process and we're going to be
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honest with you guys when when we were right, when we were
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wrong. And I think throughout the whole
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season, like I feel very confident that we were pretty
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much right on, like all all the things it feels.
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Like I think that look not to do to our own horns, but I think
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we're good at all the different episodes we do.
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But like you look at like our like waiver episode where like
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21 and 9 now I think was really like 75% is sick for waivers,
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you know, but like I'm much more confident in our buy low sell
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high. Yeah.
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Like I feel like these like there's just, you know, waivers
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is a lot more random because we're really diving deep like
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bottom of the barrel of guys who can any given week give us
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something not give us something by those allies is more.
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There's a lot more, you know. If there's.
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More stats and data, yeah, you know that you can use to kind of
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back up your choices and. I think you have to remember
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too, that like we play fantasy hockey on a weekly basis, but
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like the actual NHL players are not like, alright, it's Monday.
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Like, yeah, I just played on Sunday.
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I just played on Saturday. But like Monday is like new week
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fresh. Like they're still, they're
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going through it. Everything is like one big blur
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for them. It's just like the next game,
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the next game, you know what I mean?
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So for us, it's just like, OK, we're limiting ourselves between
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specific window of days. But for them, it's just like,
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all right, Monday, now I can start playing good again.
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And this week I'm going to be better, you know what I mean?
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So. Exactly, it's easier to be wrong
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when your sample size is 1 exact week as opposed to if we're
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recommending rest of season. We're much more confident in
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that because even the best players could can have a bad
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week. So all right, all that was a lot
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of preface and a lot of background and a lot of talking
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about our league. So let's dive into what the
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people what the people want, which is our buy lows for this
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week. I will get us started.
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My buy low for this week is the great 8 the best goal scorer in
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the NHL, Alex Ovechkin in the last month that .69 power play
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points per game, .31 power play points, three shots, 1.1 hits.
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On the last two weeks he's at .17 points per game .17 probably
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points, 2.2 shots, 1.7 hits. Last two weeks is obviously a
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bit skewed with the holidays missing a lot of time.
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Sometimes you can use that to your advantage.
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Sometimes you know you can just be like show that to your the
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person you're looking to trade with.
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Look at these averages, they're so bad, you know and they won't
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realize that you know, there's only been like 3 games.
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So if he has like 3 bad games then it makes it look bad.
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Anyways, obviously those are pretty awful for past two weeks
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since December 3rd, he only has one power play point and he has
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zero points in his last five games.
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Washington has lost six of their last seven games and this is
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like a top team in the league. Here's a quote from Elliott
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Friedman or a lot of quote other podcasts, I think so.
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Here's a quote from what from his pod.
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He said Washington, as good a pick to win the East as anyone,
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made things clear this week. They are going to grab the best
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offensive player they can. They feel that every goal is
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worked for them. This is a massive statement,
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right? This is saying that this is a
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team one of the less that's it. This is one of the teams who
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should be one of the top ones in the, in the east right now.
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Um, and they're struggling super hard and they feel the offence
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is the reason they're struggling, which is true.
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Logan Thompson has been unreal. The defence has been unreal.
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That's not an issue, but they just can't seem to score and
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they're going to do something about it.
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They're saying we're going to go out and do something about it.
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And this is one of those cases where they bring in some hot,
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you know, some guy who's like a really good and that'll yeah, I
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mean, this isn't like one of those situations where you're
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worried the guy I'm recommending is going to get bumped down
17:49
because of whoever they no, this is whoever they bring in is just
17:52
gonna boost Ovechkin, right. So this is, you know, I'm pretty
17:56
excited about how this who they can get and how this can help
17:59
Ovechkin. It'll bump their office offence
18:02
and their power play and over should benefit a lot from it.
18:04
The team hasn't given him a single D zone draw this year.
18:07
They clearly just want to promote his offence, which is
18:09
great for fantasy. Look, in terms of being an all
18:12
around player and an asset to your a real NHL team, if you're
18:15
not taking any Dzone draws, I think you're a bit of a
18:16
liability in terms of all around this.
18:19
But for fantasy, all we care about is offence for the most
18:23
part, so this is great for OV. If you can get it for cheap, you
18:26
should bounce back pretty hard for you.
18:27
So here are some targets I'm curious to see.
18:30
I don't know if I want too low on these or if you think these
18:32
are actually attainable. So I've got Steven Stamkos, Sam
18:36
Bennett, Ryan Nugent, Hopkins and Carter Verhaeghe.
18:40
I just wanna say I said Mason March because I thought you were
18:42
gonna thought you were talking about who they were gonna bring
18:44
in. Yeah, yeah.
18:46
But I was like they they said there gonna bring in like top
18:49
level guys that they can. Yeah.
18:50
And I'm saying that guy is probably going to be better than
18:52
like Mason Marchman, who's like a good middle 6 type of player,
18:55
but he's not gonna be game breaking for your team to if you
18:58
don't need scoring. You want to fix that problem not
19:00
being alright, let's bring in March.
19:01
That you know what exactly? Who's a great player in himself
19:04
is just like he's not, he's not like an elite level.
19:07
I'm not gonna bring elite level. But you know what?
19:09
They're. Gonna try, they're gonna try
19:11
exactly. So I wonder who's on the market
19:12
that they can go for right now. I feel like all these top guys
19:14
and can't find now than Kadri could be good and they do need
19:17
centre because Dylan Strome as we recommend them as a buy low
19:20
still think he bounces back. But if they sign Nazim Kadri,
19:22
that obviously changes the situation a little bit or as a
19:26
retard Gus. I think they're all very
19:28
feasible. I think Bennett, Nudge for Hagie
19:30
are all very feasible. I think samples is the hardest.
19:33
One biggest stretch, Yeah. But like, listen, in a package
19:35
like if you're doing a 2 for two, you're giving maybe Stamkos
19:38
and Bennett for OV and a very small piece like I think that's
19:42
feasible because Stamkos is production right now has been
19:44
really good. We'll talk about that more in
19:47
depth later. But I feel as a whole has been
19:50
on fire. And if you can capitalize on
19:52
this recent production because we do not think it's sustainable
19:54
and you get a guy like Ovi who we know is going to be very
19:56
productive rest of the season, I'm doing that any day of the
19:59
week. And I didn't even realize
20:01
honestly, like when we were, we always do our deep dive through
20:04
the whole league to notice who's good and who's not good and
20:08
who's buy low candidate and who's a sell high candidate.
20:11
I didn't realize Ovie was doing this bad over the last year,
20:14
Over the last month. This one like jumped out at me
20:16
like because as much on the ball as we are about like everything,
20:19
you know, it's really this like weekly, this weekly scouring the
20:22
league for who's performing way worse than usual.
20:23
And we try to stick with like the top names.
20:25
That's the most value you can get.
20:27
And this one jumped out at me. I was like, wow, OK, that's a
20:30
good. Opportunity we do a lot of
20:31
filtering, like we're not going to recommend guys that we're not
20:33
going to recommend the same as we recommended last week, right?
20:35
And like we're recommending new players every week that we
20:38
genuinely believe there's an opportunity to buy low that are
20:41
going to be better than they are or sell high.
20:44
So we want to give you guys like new names for you always have
20:46
new content and new targets so you can reach out to.
20:49
But Ovechkin, I think he's one of those guys that I feel like
20:52
come fantasy playoffs, like you might be really happy he's on
20:55
your team when he's near the end of the season and he's scoring
20:58
goals, trying to up that record tally.
21:02
I love this pic. Nice.
21:05
Alright, Kevin, who do you got for?
21:06
Us all right, this is the guy that I feel like we've talked
21:09
about a lot in terms of like targeting him for trades and
21:15
when we're doing our sell highs being like if you can sell him
21:17
for this guy you should do it, but we actually never mentioned
21:20
him as a buy low. So I feel like it might be a
21:23
tricky 1, but I'm going to talk about Jack Hughes of the New
21:27
Jersey Devils. Now this might feel a little
21:29
weird for you because he was out for over a month and he just
21:34
came back and only now mentioning him as a bylaw.
21:36
But I think I just want to highlight Jacques because I
21:40
truly believed the opportunity is still there to buy low.
21:43
He's been back for two games thus far.
21:45
He scored one goal in his return and Jack is the guy that
21:47
averages 4 shots a game. It's just like 3.7 or in that
21:52
range, which is truly, truly elite.
21:54
He's one of the best shooters in the entire league.
21:56
He's played two games. He doesn't even have four shots
21:58
yet combined into two games. Listen, it's two games, but
22:02
that's why I'm saying he was out for so long.
22:04
He came back, he didn't start off super hot.
22:07
The other New Jersey assets are also, um, not I would say
22:11
playing to their level right now.
22:13
So I think there's still a crack in the window right now where
22:15
you can acquire Jack Hughes and if you look at his sats, his
22:19
stats when he's healthy, he's a one point 1.1 feels like his
22:23
floor in terms of like points per game.
22:25
He could be at 1.3, could be 1.4 type of player.
22:27
It's just about being healthy and on the ice. 1.1 points per
22:30
game .4 power play points. Feels like the floor as well,
22:33
hovering on four shots a game. He's centre left wing, so he'll
22:37
get you those face off wins from the left wing position, which is
22:40
always valuable. He's not the best face off
22:41
winner. That's not his main, his main
22:43
thing, but it's always a nice bonus.
22:44
He's not gonna get you hitcher blocks, but that's not what you
22:46
want him for. He's a truly elite fantasy
22:50
centre left winger, let's say. And I think right now you can
22:53
still acquire him for less than his full value.
22:56
And when a guy like this is available for less than their
22:58
full value, you have to try to acquire them, especially if you
23:00
have some of these cells that we've mentioned in the past.
23:03
I don't want to go through all the metrics of like why is a buy
23:06
low or whatnot. Like we know Jack Hughes is a
23:08
quality player. Like at some point, don't beat
23:11
yourself up trying to predict everything like that.
23:14
But I think a player like this and what you expect them to do,
23:19
it's just like clear night and day.
23:20
And I think right now you still have a brief, brief window
23:23
before they start clicking guys like it might be just one week
23:25
window where you're able to acquire Jack Hughes for your
23:28
fantasy playoffs, not only but for the rest of the season where
23:31
he's gonna be in the exceptional player.
23:33
If you can trade guys like Jason Robertson who we've mentioned as
23:37
a SLI recently, Tim Stutzel I think is a fantastic asset to
23:43
use to go to the Jack Hughes level.
23:45
Tim Switzer has been insane and I love Ottawa.
23:47
I got I got Brady, I got Batherson, I got Cousins.
23:50
I had Sanderson on my team. Like I drafted 4 of them, but if
23:54
you can, if you can swap Tim Stutzel for Jack Hughes, I'm
23:57
doing that in a heartbeat. Matt Boldy, I just highlighted
24:00
him as a cell high in my recent episode as well.
24:02
My recent episode, our last episode, he was averaging 1.7
24:06
points per game for the last two weeks, 1.3 over the last month.
24:08
Like that's basically what you want Jack used to be, But my
24:11
body is not as good as Jack Hughes, I'm sorry.
24:13
And Sam Reinhart, I think is that I have on my own roster
24:16
that he's been on fire as well for Florida.
24:19
Matthew Patrick is on the way back.
24:20
Like he might get even better if you're able to make up Sam
24:23
Reinhart for Jackie's UI. Think you're going to be so
24:26
happy with that. Listen, it's not it's not cheap
24:29
asset you're trying to acquire either.
24:30
Like you have to give somebody of quality, but all these guys
24:33
are giving are not going to be as good as Jacques.
24:36
Yeah, so I love this one. I think there's I've got a
24:40
couple of questions for you, but but I I fully agree.
24:42
So firstly, I know this is what everyone is going to ask or
24:48
everyone thinks when we talk about Jack Hughes.
24:49
How worried are you about the injury history moving forward?
24:52
Listen, it's definitely a high risk when you have dinner every
24:55
night and you're always surrounded by knives, but I feel
24:58
confident that he won't cut his finger at dinner again.
25:02
As for the rest, you can't predict injury.
25:04
We can be saying like trade for this guy, he's the least injury
25:07
prone guy and then he gets hurt and then we look like dumb
25:10
dumbs. Yeah, Vincent Trocheck, who I
25:13
drafted with my second round pick or third round pick, He's a
25:17
lead for our bangers league with face off shorties and
25:19
everything. Like he's in the lead.
25:20
Player has not missed a game in like it was four years before
25:23
that and then he missed 8 weeks to start the year.
25:26
Like you just can't. You can try to draft for it, you
25:29
can try to predict it, you can try to avoid guys.
25:31
At the end of the day, you don't really know.
25:33
So I'm not factoring in the injury history like that.
25:36
I I agree. And yeah, so that's just, I know
25:39
a question that everyone asks when Jackie is involved.
25:41
I think that's good to to mention in terms of your
25:44
targets. So first one to me that's a slam
25:47
dunk is Tim Stitzel. That one I would absolutely take
25:49
Jack use. I think it could be done for
25:51
sure. He's been sold and I love that.
25:52
Then looking at the other 3. So I think that with the other
25:57
three you can get Jackie's plus. I don't know if that's really to
26:00
say. I think that's I think.
26:01
It would be a small would be a small plus, but like just what
26:05
these guys have been doing so like boldy, I'm taking cues over
26:10
boldy. A lot of it also helps with the
26:11
playoff schedule being being a lot better.
26:13
Um, but I definitely think what bodies been doing that you can
26:17
get Jackie plus, but maybe that's just me, but you know,
26:20
you have to see what the what the person.
26:22
Says he still has a lot of pulled though for.
26:24
Sure, for sure, But I think there is that injury like cloud
26:28
around him. There's the fact his two games
26:30
back haven't been the most insane.
26:32
He hasn't been shooting that much, hasn't won any faceoffs
26:34
whatever and voltage has been insane.
26:36
So you just don't want to do kind of like kind of like what
26:39
you're saying with the with the keys trade with me right where
26:42
you pay full value for a buy low.
26:45
So I just think you want to extract as much value as.
26:47
Possible you want to talk about things worse by possible if
26:50
you're talking. Yeah, so, so no, I think I still
26:52
would take this like it was a one for one.
26:54
I'm still taking cues. I just think you could probably
26:56
get a bit of a plus there, Reinhart.
26:58
Yeah, I'll take cues again. I think there's a chance you can
27:01
get a plus with how hot Reinhart has been.
27:02
You also sell the person on the fact that coming back it could
27:05
only be better for Reinhart. Who knows if that's true.
27:08
I don't know if it really like he's been at such a high level.
27:10
I don't think he's going to get some massive boost.
27:12
With raises his floor. Yeah, exactly.
27:15
That's it raises water is already performing close to
27:17
ceiling. I feel like so um, but you can
27:19
use that in negotiations. So I think you can get Hughes
27:21
plus for Reinhart and then Robertson too.
27:23
Like the Robertson 1 is like in my mind, I'm like obviously Jack
27:27
Hughes, but then you look at it like Roberts and I see him
27:30
getting like 1.1 points per game.
27:32
I see him getting like .4 power play points.
27:34
I see him getting 3.5 shots. They have the same playoff
27:37
schedule. He has less of an injury risk.
27:39
So why he was over Robertson? I guess the reason is that you
27:42
were saying all those numbers were Hughes floor, whereas
27:44
that's like Robertsons more his ceiling.
27:46
Um, so, but again, I think you might be able to get huge plus.
27:49
Look, it could be way off on this.
27:50
Like with my evaluations, it also depends on the Hughes owner
27:53
and how they feel and all that. But it's all about making the
27:57
most of the value. I still like the like the trade
27:59
and I like the targets. Who's the worst player you think
28:02
you could send for Jack Hues? Like if you're looking at one
28:05
for one, right? Now.
28:06
Yeah, Let me say, let me see if I can give you other names
28:09
because to me, I think, yeah, people are not down grading
28:11
Jacques that much. Like, I don't know, Like I think
28:14
right now he's like maybe 85% of his value, let's say.
28:17
And even that is a big enough gap that I want to try to
28:20
acquire him. No, I, I like, I like that
28:22
you're putting realistic targets.
28:24
I just, I'm like, I'm a bit wary of like, is it, you know, like.
28:28
Would you do celebrity for Jacques?
28:31
I think I'd rather celebrate at this point.
28:33
OK, maybe I'm biased because I just traded for him.
28:35
I don't know what you think about that, but I.
28:37
Would rather have dry shoes. We just talked about this on the
28:39
episode. Yeah, OK, fair.
28:42
Do you think you could trade? Do you think you can trade like
28:46
a Nick Suzuki for Jack Hughes? Yeah, I love that.
28:50
Yeah. You think that's feasible?
28:53
I think I think you could get. My favorite thing is suitable I
28:57
think right now. He's my favorite one he's.
28:59
Also looking minivan himself. I think he's a big sell high
29:02
like I think look, I think. Something is an exceptional
29:04
player, but. Yeah, he was a bi lo.
29:06
He popped off right after we recommended him as a bi lo, so
29:09
patting ourselves on the back for that.
29:10
But of these names, he's the one that I like the least, if that
29:15
makes sense. I mean, I still would want all
29:16
of them on my team and to me that's a no brainer Jack use.
29:19
Whereas the other ones I'm like, I know the answer is Jack
29:21
Hughes, but I'm still a bit scared about it.
29:23
We're just with still. I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
29:26
Good. So I think you could do this is
29:28
a funny 1. Not funny, but fun natures for
29:31
Jacques. I think I would absolutely do
29:35
that, yeah. And I think that's doable.
29:37
Natures over the last month. Like 1, like 3.
29:40
I know the the fluctuations are crazy.
29:43
We still have 1.3 points per game over the last month.
29:45
I love NHS but I'm definitely taking Jacques over him.
29:48
OK, so these are names that if these guys are on your roster
29:51
right now and you can swap them project using A1 for one.
29:54
That's crazy. I feel like one for one trades
29:56
are rare in the real world. So if you can make it a 2 for
29:59
two and maybe you get some better value on A2 for two as
30:02
well, I think that's a no brainer to me.
30:05
Yeah, honestly, the more I think about it, I think you're right.
30:07
These targets, like it's just the reason that I'm worried is
30:10
because it's so close. But I do think Hughes has a
30:12
higher ceiling than all these guys window.
30:15
So I mean are you sending, you have Reinhart, are you, are you
30:17
sending that offer? Yes.
30:19
Did you send that? Offer.
30:20
Yeah, I have it as a pending. I have a pending yeah.
30:24
Not one for one. Not one for one.
30:27
My offer is, uh, I'm sending Sam Reinhart and Drake Batherson for
30:33
Hughes and Nylander. OK.
30:35
Well, yeah, I mean, it's a good offer if you.
30:38
Both of my girls. Are a huge one.
30:40
Way better than both of those. Guys, you guys are huge cell.
30:42
I mean yeah, both you guys are pretty big sell highs especially
30:45
Batherson and both his eyes are huge cellos so at bilos.
30:48
So that would be crazy. Crazy.
30:50
Like pull that off, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
30:52
I don't. Think no.
30:53
But what if you count? What if?
30:54
Like if he just doesn't take it or count it, whatever, what do
30:58
you send? Just the one for one.
30:59
I mean, my next offer is for one.
31:02
For one, I'm doing a slam dunk for sure.
31:04
I think if you send that one for one, he takes it.
31:06
You think so? Yeah, I think adding the bathers
31:09
inlander makes it so he's not going to accept it.
31:11
But I think if you do the the one for one, I think there's a
31:14
very high chance you just. I mean, listen, if he declines,
31:17
I'll send that as a counter. My next thought was gonna be if
31:21
I should include Josh Norris and make it a three for two.
31:24
OK. I think that might be think that
31:26
might be a lot. Because I would still take the
31:28
2. I mean, I think I'm losing a lot
31:30
of power play points there. Yeah, I mean, it really depends
31:34
how much you believe in the the Newlander like Toronto power
31:37
play turning things. Around I think he'll be better
31:39
than he is, but I don't know if the power play is going to be
31:41
like a .4 which I know for Brotherson is going to be.
31:44
I know for Reinhart it's pretty close and I know Jack uses in
31:47
that realm too. But if I'm adding another like
31:50
power play guy like Josh Norris, who I think could easily get .3,
31:54
it's like on our waivers guys, there's like nobody on power
31:57
play 1. I just picked up the best power
31:58
play available and it was all over Bjorkstrand, who yeah,
32:01
sucks. So.
32:02
Yeah. No, no, I get what you're
32:04
saying. And like in terms of that
32:05
specific cat, I get the worry. In my mind though, if you're
32:09
happy with the 2 for two, which I absolutely would be, then I
32:12
think throwing in Josh Norris as an add on to get the deal done
32:14
is a no brainer if you have to do that.
32:16
We'll see anyways. So that's what I'm trying to
32:20
cook, that is just in my mind the other person but does not
32:23
care at all. I've been trying to get Jack
32:25
just for for like months, like since ever since the injury.
32:28
I was like, I'll hold on for weeks.
32:30
My mean it wasn't. There that was that was involved
32:34
at one point I I sent a lot of different offers and he.
32:37
Didn't use and these two other best players.
32:40
That, well, I mean, look, I'm taking McDavid and yeah, I mean,
32:44
but I mean no, like I've sent both directions.
32:46
I've sent like I give you multiple less good guys for your
32:48
Jack Hughes or I give you a better guy for Jack Hughes plus
32:51
other good guys and he hasn't been interested in any.
32:53
But we'll see what happens. We'll see what the is not that
32:55
I'm sending anything, but I'm really curious to see.
32:58
Can't say that I wanted to work out for you though, but yeah,
33:02
because they were competition obviously.
33:03
But but yeah, we'll see what happens.
33:05
Alright, let's go to our bonus choice for our Bilo this week.
33:08
Again, since Jakey was very real and exists is not back yet, we
33:13
still want to give as much content as possible for our fans
33:15
and so we are doing a bonus choice.
33:17
So for the bonus choice by low this week, we've got someone
33:19
who's been a buy low earlier this season.
33:21
He's going to sell high earlier this season.
33:23
Now he's back to being a buy low this season.
33:24
And that is Jake Sanderson of the Ottawa Senators.
33:28
I feel like Jake Anderson has been in conversations as both a
33:30
BI, LO and a cell by consistently on our show and in
33:33
general, which maybe shows the lack of overall consistency.
33:36
His last two weeks have been subpar, averaging only .33
33:39
points per game and no power play points, while the power
33:41
play has actually been very good.
33:42
His shots are down, his blocks are down.
33:44
He hasn't hit a super high ceiling yet this year, which I
33:46
did personally expect from him this season.
33:48
I thought he should be able to take a jump and hover around a
33:50
top five fantasy D, although he hasn't done that yet.
33:53
I still love him rest of season and would be trying to acquire
33:55
him. His season long data is very
33:57
solid and I believe Ottawa is in a good place working up to
34:00
cementing their playoff position.
34:01
He's due for some power play production with how well it's
34:03
been clicking and out of all the top fantasy D, he is one of the
34:05
more acquirable ones right now. We've already touched on Quinn
34:08
Hughes and Morrissey, who I still love his targets.
34:10
Sanderson is the next guy that I think is a billow of top level
34:13
and good one for one targets. We've got Lean Hudson, Jackson,
34:17
Lacombe, Eric Carlson, Rasmus Anderson.
34:20
Yep, I don't listen. I agree with everything you
34:23
said. I was I was pretty, pretty tired
34:29
last night and Kevin wrote this this bonus one for me.
34:31
So I was just reading it for him.
34:33
But those those are his words. So I feel like I need to react
34:35
to like the. Words that I just read react to
34:37
the words that you just said. Yeah, OK.
34:39
I mean, first of all, fully agree.
34:40
I love Sanderson as a Bilo. Like I said, he's been below
34:44
earlier this season. Then you went super hot, so
34:45
high, nice back to buy low. So the consistency is not the
34:48
best, but overall, when it flattens out, you're going to be
34:50
very happy with the production you're getting.
34:53
Let's look at the targets you said or I said, but you wrote,
34:56
um, I would take Sanderson easily over any of these guys.
34:59
I think the most doable 1 is probably Eric Carlson.
35:02
I think he's been on fire. I think you can pull that off.
35:05
Actually, Hudson has been on fire and has more name value
35:07
than Carlson. So you're right.
35:08
I would go Hudson, Carlson, Lacombe, Anderson, I think is
35:11
the likeliness of it getting done.
35:12
I would take Sanderson for all of them.
35:14
I've had a question for you because I would be interested in
35:16
acquiring Sanderson. Do you think I could pull off a
35:18
Seth Jones for, for Sanderson? Anything that's too low.
35:21
I think Seth Jones has like glimpses of games that really
35:24
hold a lot of value that influences averages, but like on
35:27
a consistent level of you open his game log, like which game
35:29
are you happy with him? You're not happy with most of
35:31
them, but when he does have a good game, it's a great game.
35:34
But you're never trying to do a one for one either, right?
35:36
So if you do a 2 for two and Sanders in for Seth Jones is is
35:41
like the defenseman portion of it.
35:44
I think that can actually like, I think there's some way to
35:46
that. Like if you get my foot in the
35:48
door, but I'd have to add another little upgrade somewhere
35:49
else. Exactly happened exactly.
35:52
So things better and I think he does, he doesn't have the name
35:55
value of like the Quinn Hughes and Mccard, the warranty, which
35:58
he shouldn't have right now. But I think like he's going to
36:01
be the next guy up that's like could teeter around that top
36:04
level. Like would I be, would I be
36:06
shocked if he's better than Bouchard rest of season?
36:08
No. I'd be shocked with how McDavid
36:11
and Drysol been playing. OK, fair shot.
36:12
Fair. I'd be I'd be shocked just cause
36:14
I like Davis averaging like 3 points the same.
36:16
Yeah, but in in general, in a normal.
36:19
But no I. Love normal world.
36:20
Like I think he's close to that. I think he can reach like a .9
36:23
points per game with .4 power play points and it's getting you
36:26
like 2.5 shots and two blocks. Like I think it's very realistic
36:30
for Jake Anderson. And let's not forget how good of
36:32
a prospect he was as well. Like if Jackie was here, he'd
36:35
list off all the NHL numbers and everything.
36:37
Yeah, exactly. But we've been waiting for J
36:39
Sanderson, like, come up for a while now, it feels like.
36:42
And this is the first year that I think he can actually take a
36:44
step up into like entering, he's gonna be into the conversation
36:48
with us like is such that he's in the in the macar era.
36:51
Because if he wasn't, he might win a Norris Trophy type of
36:54
thing. You know what I mean?
36:55
Yeah, I think he'll definitely get votes over the course of his
36:57
career and we'll see if he ever hits that really high level of
37:01
of winning it. We'll see.
37:02
I think Otto was gonna get better, but yeah, no.
37:03
Love this pic that you made and I read out loud for us.
37:06
Thank you. Let's go to our cell highs.
37:10
My cell high for this week is Steven Stamkos of the Nashville
37:14
Predators. Last month he's at 1.21 points
37:17
per game, .21 power play points, 3.2 shots, and a hit.
37:20
On the season he's at .61 points per game.
37:22
Last season he was at .65 points per game.
37:25
In his last seven games, he has a 25% shooting percentage, which
37:29
is insanely unsustainable. His career average is 16.6%.
37:34
His best year. This is when he was actually
37:36
good on Tampa. His best year was 20%, 2013 that
37:40
is. I mean, people are gonna like to
37:43
hear this, but that was over a decade ago.
37:46
Yeah, I know. It's it's never fun to to
37:49
realize how old we all are, but but yeah, no.
37:51
So over a decade ago, he had his best season and wasn't even
37:54
within 5% of the shooting percentage he's had with this
37:57
recent hot streak. This is this recent national
38:00
surge is not sustainable. They didn't make any changes to
38:03
their team that warrants the sudden success.
38:05
The only change they made was knockout Marsha so from the
38:07
lineup. So I don't think losing him is
38:10
that is that helpful for them. 5 out of 11 of his points in the
38:14
last seven games came against Saint Louis, who suck.
38:17
OK. If I if anyone on my team plays
38:19
Saint Louis two times in a week, I'm selling high on them because
38:22
that is going to be a lot of inflated numbers.
38:24
You probably grabbed him off waivers, sell them for value
38:26
before him and the team come crashing back down to earth.
38:29
He still has a lot of name value because of his career.
38:31
So he may be able to get some real steals with him.
38:33
So like, the name value, the way I see it is like normally a guy
38:36
you pick up off waivers, like, even if they're performing like
38:39
crazy and even if it's gonna sustain, they they have kind of
38:41
like that waiver sting to them, right?
38:43
But a guy like Steven Stamkos still has that value.
38:45
It reminds me of like, let's say probably not at this point, but
38:47
maybe like a year or two ago, if you picked up Jonathan Huberdeau
38:50
and he randomly decided to go on like a big run, he would have
38:52
still had that name value of being a guy like, oh, maybe he
38:54
figured it out. You know, maybe he got back to
38:56
where he's been before where you could have made something
38:58
happen. So that's why I used to Santos
38:59
at this point, right? He's only two years removed from
39:01
not being awful and and like he still got the name value.
39:04
So let's see what Kevin thinks of my targets.
39:06
I don't know if I shot too high with these, but let's see what
39:09
you think. So we've got I put a couple, I
39:11
put a decent amount. I put Adrian Kempe, Alex
39:13
Ovechkin, Clayton Keller, Sebastian Aho, Esper Brett and
39:17
John Tavares. So listen, if you if you've been
39:21
listening to this podcast before this episode, you know that Josh
39:23
and I are like 2 of the biggest Nashville haters or just sample
39:27
haters in general. So not surprising that he ends
39:30
up on this cell high list while they're on a hot streak.
39:35
But we've got a lot of questions from Steven Stamkos and Discord
39:37
as well. People are just always curious
39:39
like he's one of those names, like you said, he still has name
39:41
value because he has a few good games.
39:42
Like it's time goes back, it's time goes.
39:44
Back. Goes back, he's not bad guys.
39:46
He's not back in guarantee my whole career on it, but my
39:49
health Sanzillo right now, but. I could actually get my house.
39:53
Yeah, you could actually get your house right now.
39:55
So maybe we should change the joke from my house to your house
39:57
once you actually own a house now.
39:59
It's a lot scarier when you actually own a house to bed it.
40:03
I've been betting my invisible house, but no, this is a
40:06
tremendous cell high. The only thing is I do think you
40:08
aim a little high with the names I feel.
40:10
All of them or what do you think?
40:12
I think to Virus and Brett, they've been so bad that they
40:16
might be acquirable, but I don't think you're getting a deal done
40:19
for Stamkos. You know, one for one, like in
40:21
any type of trade. I just think he's the type of
40:23
guy that was like unwavered in so many leagues that like
40:25
there's just no way where you're pulling off like pick this guy
40:27
up, he gets hot, you trade him one for one and you just has the
40:30
waiver. The waiver is is tied to
40:32
strongly to him. Yeah.
40:34
But if you could get these done in a package where it's like a 2
40:36
for two and Stamkos is one of the part that's doing a lot of
40:39
the heavy lifting for you and you're able to acquire like a
40:41
brat to virus Yahoo. I think that's great.
40:43
I think the other guys are a little harder.
40:44
I think Tempe is just like he's been too strong the whole season
40:47
that, you know, a little blip in the in the course of things like
40:50
this doesn't do enough for you to make a swap like that.
40:53
It's going killer if you like the same.
40:55
But I have some other targets that I feel like are less high
40:59
than these guys that I still think are more attainable,
41:01
feasible. Like if you could get Matthew
41:03
Knives, I think mathematics right now, he's he's a bylaw and
41:07
himself. He's averaging .5 points per
41:09
game. And you know, he's not even on
41:10
power play one right now. But if you can do standardized
41:12
think you're laughing, another name that I had that I think is
41:16
the perfect name and I'm going to touch on him later with my
41:18
target. Spoiler alert.
41:19
But if you could get Kirill Marchenko, I think that's an
41:22
exceptional one right now too. Like Columbus right now do the
41:25
vibes are bad in terms of like holding Columbus assets.
41:28
Marchenko is not playing close with potential.
41:30
He we highlighted him as a bi lo in recent episodes.
41:33
I think you can flip samples from Marchenko too.
41:36
I think that's an exceptional trade.
41:37
So overall, like love the targets, you're able to pull
41:40
them off and a lot of leagues like these won't be as feasible
41:43
for everybody, but if it's feasible for you, make it
41:45
happen. Yeah.
41:48
Also, I love targeting IR stashes, too.
41:50
Like, if you can get like AJ Miller for Steven Stamkos, yeah,
41:54
I think that's a great opportunity for you.
41:56
Yeah, I love that. Maybe.
42:00
Yeah, that would be a good one. Alright, you got for us.
42:03
Finally, time for me to talk about a player.
42:06
I feel like it's been like 3 early that you've gone over, but
42:12
the this is mixed feelings talking about this guy because
42:15
I'm going to highlight Habs legend you're island coffee
42:19
Sloth is just so fun to watch when he's clicking on all
42:22
cylinders and as Habs fans, we want him to succeed.
42:25
And like he was the first overall pick for the habits to
42:28
be a contender. I think Slough has to be a star
42:31
and like pull his weight in terms of like the draft
42:34
pedigree. But that does not stop me from
42:36
highlighting Slough from being a sell high when I think he's
42:39
overperforming. And right now I think he's
42:41
overperforming. Last season he averaged 0.13
42:44
power play points on the season. This season he's at 0.35 which
42:48
is already just like you basically tripled his numbers
42:50
from last season or the last two weeks.
42:52
He's almost at 0.6 points per game power play points per game,
42:56
sorry. Which is just insane.
42:59
The other news is his category coverage is not good.
43:02
I feel we highlight a slap on the offseason as he's this power
43:05
forward that's looking to take a jump.
43:06
We saw after the Four Nations last year, he was like a mini
43:09
Brady could Chuck. It felt like he was hitting
43:11
everything inside. He was shooting.
43:13
But over the last little stretch, he's at almost a point
43:17
per game guys. You're Slavkov.
43:19
He's at a point per game pace, but his shooting 1.5, hitting
43:24
1.5 and this is a guy that supposed to be like a double,
43:26
double minimum. So the category coverage is not
43:29
there. The points are there, which kind
43:31
of feels counterintuitive. You feel would be the other way
43:33
around where like he's doing all the bangs but not getting the
43:35
points. So This is why I'm trying to
43:37
capitalize on the points that he's producing right now and
43:40
trade him for another guy that I know is going to be more
43:41
consistent longer term and I think going to bring more
43:44
overall value for your fantasy team.
43:46
This is not to say that he's going to be a bad asset in the
43:48
future. Like a month ago you would have
43:50
been a buy low, but right now we swung too high the other
43:53
direction. And I think right now you can
43:55
capitalize on that extra points production and get a guy that's
43:58
going to be better. And I think he does have a lot
44:00
of name value too. Like people love slave Koski.
44:02
Like the name is there. Maybe we just play around too
44:05
many Habs fans that they still put a lot of stock into him.
44:08
But first overall pick and the Habs are clicking right now.
44:11
Like the power play itself is clicking and that's always
44:14
enticing when you're trying to acquire a player.
44:15
Like how many look how many PowerPoints are putting up.
44:18
So if you can flip slab 4, I'm going to cross position first.
44:21
But Josh Morrissey, I feel like one for one that could get done
44:24
and one for ones are not always fun to do when there's the same
44:27
position. But I think cross position is
44:29
more feasible, even if it's not my preference.
44:31
It's like, oh, you need a defenseman or you need a
44:33
forward. I need a defenseman.
44:34
How about we just help each other out type of thing.
44:35
Yeah, but I think more's tears above Slough.
44:39
I think in a package you could get Nylander.
44:41
Josh mentioned like the 4.9 the other day the other day is makes
44:44
it difficult to acquire them on the low low.
44:46
But I think if you look at the averages, it's still way off
44:50
claim Keller we've highlighted in the past.
44:51
Yes, we're Brad. We just highlighted there, just
44:53
highlighted and Marchenko, I think all these guys in a
44:56
package or I think Tavares, Brett Marchenko one for one,
44:59
it's not impossible. So these are guys I'm trying to
45:03
target with the slot points production that I'm trying to
45:05
capitalize on. Yeah, I I fully agree with
45:09
everything you said here in terms of the targets, Marchenko
45:12
definitely could do one for one and I love that Tavarius, I
45:15
think you can do one for one brats a bit of a stretch, but
45:17
people are really down on. Him.
45:18
So many people hate him. Yeah, people hate him.
45:21
It's true. Morrissey.
45:24
Morrissey. Nylander.
45:25
Keller. I just don't see happening one
45:26
for one, even with how bad Morris he's been.
45:28
Nielander, Norway. Keller.
45:30
No one for sure. But yeah, yeah, in a package, I
45:33
like it. It's kind of similar notes to to
45:35
my targets with the with the stamp goes right.
45:37
It's like these are all great targets.
45:39
He can get your foot in the door for sure, and you should
45:42
definitely try it. But in terms of one for one, I
45:44
think the rat to various Marchenko are Marchenko, I think
45:47
is just that's a slam dunk. He's such a bond and I think
45:49
that gets I think that gets done instantly.
45:51
I think you send that offer and it gets accepted in almost every
45:54
league. So I love it and it's a great
45:57
one. I wish I had slots like
45:59
capitalized on this cell hide because yeah, I really want some
46:02
of. These kind of guy, the guy who
46:04
does. Isn't going to.
46:05
Yeah, I know, I know. It's Jakey, in case anyone was
46:08
wondering. If you were to put life in the
46:13
instead of a Holloway would have done the trade.
46:17
Well, yes, that's better than Holloway, OK.
46:20
I'm just curious if you if you wanted a specific IR stash then
46:23
the Bings but. No, no, I'll take I I think
46:30
Scalabrini is better than Matthews at this point.
46:32
I could be, like I said, it could be too much of A buying
46:34
high and selling low, but like at the very least they're close.
46:37
So yeah, anything else was was a bonus.
46:40
And on that note, we'll talk about the bonus sell high
46:45
because we got three names for you guys and this is the third
46:48
one. And listen, we're trying to
46:50
cover all the bases. We try to highlight no centres,
46:52
left wing, right wings, defensemen, goalies, and we're
46:55
trying to give new names every week.
46:56
So try not to double dip too much.
46:59
And we don't want to force anybody either.
47:00
Like we're not going to say goalie just for the sake of
47:02
saying goalie or say defence just for the sake of saying
47:04
defenseman. So we actually want to pick guys
47:06
that I think are attainable. But this guy, I'm happy to talk
47:09
about this guy because we're going goalies right now and
47:12
we're going to talk about the juice.
47:15
You see the sorrows of the Nashville Predators Ellison
47:19
goalies tend to be strongly correlated to the success of
47:21
their team. And I think it's fair to assume
47:23
that Nashville is a bad team and won't be making the playoffs
47:26
this year. However, as you've noticed on
47:28
the other video, sell high episodes and also other waiver
47:31
episodes, we've kind of been talking about national assets in
47:33
terms of like streaming them or, you know, capitalizing on the
47:36
cell high like Josh suspension on Stamkos.
47:38
We recommend Ryan O'Reilly. I feel like as a streaming
47:42
option for like the last two or three weeks it felt like, but
47:45
we're highlighting them because during a run of form right now
47:48
and Cyrus has won eight of his last 10 games.
47:51
His percentages have been really good as well.
47:53
Like if you're looking at his numbers over the last month,
47:55
he's at 0.914, so 915 basically over the last month.
48:00
And it's quantity of saves as well has been nuts.
48:03
Like if you're in a league that rewards, you know, volume or you
48:07
have a category for saves, he's averaging 27 saves a game.
48:10
That's that's just ridiculous numbers, first of all, but I
48:13
don't think natural continue winning this many games.
48:16
I think most of their Prosser is also trade bait, like Ryan
48:18
O'reilly's a trade bait for everything that needs a centre
48:20
Stamkos to Marshall. So to it just feels like all
48:23
their guys are just like playing so they can get traded.
48:26
Um, and I think sorrows like if you look back to earlier this
48:30
season, he was dropped in many leagues.
48:32
Like don't do not forget yes, he has a name value.
48:34
Yes, still uses arrows, but he's playing on a bad team.
48:38
He's not always producing a guy that was on waivers in your own
48:42
league maybe a month or so ago and now you're able to
48:45
capitalize on him and trade him for value.
48:47
I think it's a no brainer. You have to capitalize on it.
48:49
Do not fall victim to he's been good in the past, he's good
48:52
right now. He's back baby.
48:54
Like when when windows like this happen for teams that you know
48:57
are bad, you gotta capitalize on them.
49:00
So if you're still holding the saddle bag, I think you have a
49:02
chance to sell and get out. And here are some names that I'd
49:04
like to target. If you can get Jacob Markstrom
49:06
right now might feel super scary because Markstrom has been
49:09
really bad. New Jersey hasn't bounced back
49:11
fully yet, but I think they're on the cusp of it.
49:13
And if you can trade for the starting goalie for New Jersey,
49:16
I think you're very happy if you can, if you can somehow manage a
49:19
trade for Sergei Bobrovsky, where I think it might need to
49:22
be a package. But if you can target Barowski
49:24
in a trade, I think that's a no brainer for you and you'll be
49:26
happy with that. Dostall is my favorite goalie
49:29
target right now. He's been lit up in recent games
49:32
so that the window is wide open right now.
49:35
Cyrus has been good for a month. You look at open the game log,
49:37
it's all nice and pretty. You can make that swap one for
49:40
one. I'm convinced.
49:41
And Carol Velka as well. He was supposed to start the
49:45
last game as we recorded this, but pulled in warm-ups.
49:48
I think he he tweaked something and wasn't able to play.
49:51
So he's already got the injury factor as well.
49:52
But I think Utah is a team that's gonna be solid rest of
49:54
the season, even though they don't have the best playoff
49:56
schedule on the championship for Milk is probably starting both
49:58
of those games. So just getting two stars is not
50:01
the end of the world. I would do that swap.
50:04
Yeah, I mean, most goalies, even their team plays three times,
50:06
they'll only get two of those starts.
50:07
So I don't care about the schedule for goalies unless it
50:10
happened to be about 1 back-to-back, then you only get
50:12
one. Yeah, I fully agree.
50:14
Don't like Nashville. Saros is like you said, he was a
50:17
drop earlier this year. Everyone wanted him off their
50:19
team. So if you held this long, be
50:22
happy that he's turning it around, but get him off your
50:24
team while you can. So hopefully with everything in
50:26
terms of the targets, Bobrovsky is obviously I think the best,
50:29
the best one you can get. I don't know if you can pull
50:31
that off, but if you can, that's great.
50:33
Second choice would be Dostal and I think that you can easily
50:35
get third choice given milk. I think that you can easily get
50:38
mark. She's the big one for me.
50:39
And that's just that's just a matter of preference for me.
50:42
If I knew Markstrom was the starter on New Jersey getting
50:45
the majority of the stars for rest of the season, I'd be like,
50:48
yeah, let's do it. You know, like I believe in New
50:50
Jersey being better, but he's splitting starts with Jake Allen
50:53
and like Allen's been better than Marsha lot of this year.
50:55
So I don't know if I want to target Markstrom.
50:57
It's really scary. I just think that if you do
51:00
that, at least make sure you get marks from plus, because you're
51:02
talking about Soros being a drop in most leagues.
51:04
Markstrom has been a drop, probably even more leaves than
51:06
Sorrows. So I that's the only one I'm not
51:09
sure if I would do the others. I like all of them, but with
51:12
Markham I think you gotta get a, you gotta get an upgrade to
51:14
elsewhere to to make it worth it.
51:16
Jethro connection in this one as well because I think if he
51:20
wasn't spelling starts with J Allen, there's no way this is
51:23
even feasible, right? So right now it's feasible
51:25
because, you know, he hasn't been playing the best, even
51:28
though I think his recent starts have been the best quality he's
51:31
had all season. It's just he's not, you know,
51:33
starting all the games. So this is kind of like a call
51:36
your shot moment. I'd rather take the chance on
51:39
New Jersey, who I think is going to be a playoff team and a
51:41
strong one at that. And I think Nashville is going
51:44
to have a lot a rough stretches ahead.
51:46
So. But like you said, you gotta get
51:48
fair value for what the value is right now and you can definitely
51:50
get marks from plus. Yeah, I will say if you want a
51:53
bit more sample size, you could wait for this coming week.
51:56
They have two back to backs, right?
51:57
See how Markstrom does and the team does because even if he
51:59
does well, you can tell the other person, look, he's
52:01
splitting starts. You know, if they're not dialed
52:03
in and they don't realize that he split starts because it's 2
52:05
back-to-back, then you can still use that to your advantage.
52:07
And then you get a bit more of sample size to see like, do I
52:09
feel comfortable going after Markstrom?
52:12
But obviously the other person could be dialed in and be like,
52:15
yeah, but that's just, it was back-to-back and you're like,
52:16
alright, well. He's still even before that.
52:19
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
52:21
So I think it's definitely that's definitely a very
52:24
interesting one. Look, if you tell me last season
52:26
would rather have the starter on Nashville or New Jersey, it's
52:28
New Jersey, no question. So, so I just, I just think you
52:31
could get more value than just Markstrom.
52:33
So you should. Some other names I wanted to
52:34
highlight that I didn't get a chance to mention, but like I
52:37
think Swamin, I think right now I'd rather have swim in rest of
52:40
the season, even though I'm not really convinced in Boston.
52:42
No long term in terms of being like a strong team, but I think
52:45
he's been really bad right now trying to make that swap.
52:49
How do you feel about the? How do you feel about the chord?
52:53
You think you can do that? I think it could get done.
52:56
He's been pretty hotly. Yeah, 2 good games.
52:58
Pretty awful before that. I know he's had like 3 or 4 at
53:00
this point but like he's he's really bad before that and I
53:04
think it could get done and I much prefer to court to Saros.
53:07
OK, what about Joseph Wall? I think you can get done and I'd
53:12
rather well, so yeah. OK.
53:15
I'm just trying to find names that I think are somewhat
53:19
feasible. Would you, would you drop
53:20
everything for sales and try to get Connor Ingram?
53:24
That's a good question. Let's say Cyrus is your worst
53:26
goalie on your team. I mean, you just can't drop a
53:28
guy who's performing like this. So it's you have to get value
53:31
for him. So no, I would I would not drop
53:33
zeros for the chance like honoring.
53:34
From the last name Spencer Knight.
53:38
That's a good one. I would take night over sorrows.
53:40
I think you get Night plus at this point, which you should.
53:42
Um, look, Night was a super cell high that started the season,
53:45
but fact is right now he's playing without Connor Bedard
53:47
was literally the entire heart and soul of that.
53:49
Team wasn't. Like mainly Bedard.
53:51
So there's brighter days ahead for Spencer Night.
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And I think at the end of the day, a healthy Chicago versus
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Nashville probably traded away a bunch of assets going into the
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end of the year. I'd rather have Spencer Night.
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Fair enough. All right, that wraps up our
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Week 13 buy low sell high trade target episode.
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You guys made it this far. We really appreciate it.
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Do not forget drop us a follow wherever you're listening to
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comment, all that good stuff. I'm going to put a poll in the
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Spotify episode of this and I want you guys to vote on who you
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think won that trade between Josh and Jake.
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And if you're listening to this on YouTube, let us know in the
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comments. Would you rather Macklin
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celebrity plus Dylan Holloway or Austin Matthews plus Fabian
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Zetterlund? Let us know who you think won
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this trade between the two Banker have been hosts.
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I think it's gonna be really fun and I'm excited to see what the
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viewers think because I think that's I think that's a big one
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when you think about it. I thought it was a slam dunk for
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Josh, to be honest, but it's still awesome Matthews at the
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end of the day. So you never know what can
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happen but. Normally I'm the other side of
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the trade. Normally I'm the JQ guy in the
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trade selling my super hot like a guy for for top five pick
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who's underperforming. So I definitely don't feel as
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comfortable as I usually do. But in the nice thing about
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doing a sell low and buy high is in the immediate future it feels
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great. You're on the other foot though,
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for once. Yeah, exactly.
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But the. Yeah.
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Click the link in the bio or the description of where you're
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It's it's a lot of fun. And listen, on that note, a
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reference that maybe some people don't even understand.
55:36
But take it away, aren't they? But what about Bow Bangor
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Management Fantasy Hockey podcast?
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Whoa, whoa. I think we need to just like
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post a tick tock of like of that scene from a from the movie that
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people know when we're talking about when we say that.
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The post credit scene rolling right now.
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Do you guys know take it away or any have you guys seen Harry
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Potter? Alright, it's like, I feel like
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it's like a kind of obscure line, but for some reason, like
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if you're in, I feel like it just resonated this random.
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That's it. If you if you seen the movies,
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you know, that's even the books, you won't know because it's only
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in the movie, but it's a yeah. Go to Harry Potter 3.
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Like, yeah, let us know if yeah exactly.
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Yeah, exactly.