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- 0:00As the ocean warms, some of the species holding marine ecosystems together may be
- 0:04tiny fish most people never think about.
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- 0:16Today, we're talking about climate change, ecosystem resilience, and why forage
- 0:21fish may become one of the most important conservation stories of the next decade.
- 0:26Because climate change is not just affecting polar bears and coral reefs.
- 0:30It's changing entire food webs.
- 0:33And forage fish are right at the middle of that shift.
- 0:36So why are these tiny fish becoming even more important in a warming ocean?
- 0:41That's really the question to ask, isn't it?
- 0:43And what happens when climate stress collides with
- 0:46already pressured ecosystems?
- 0:48Let's talk about it.
- 0:49Forage fish are highly sensitive to environmental conditions, and that
- 0:53includes ocean temperature, plankton availability, oxygen levels, ocean
- 0:59currents, a lot of different things.
- 1:01Even small environmental shifts can affect where these fish live, how
- 1:04successfully they reproduce, and whether predators can find them.
- 1:08Marine heatwaves are a major example.
- 1:10During extreme warming events, plankton production can change dramatically.
- 1:15Because forage fish feed heavily on plankton, these populations
- 1:19can also shift or decline.
- 1:21That creates a chain reaction.
- 1:23And if forage fish move farther offshore, predators may struggle to keep up.
- 1:28If populations crash temporarily, predators may suddenly lose
- 1:31access to a major food source.
- 1:34And scientists are already seeing signs of this actually happening.
- 1:38In some regions, seabird colonies have experienced breeding failures
- 1:41linked to forage fish shortages.
- 1:43Adult birds simply cannot find enough food for their chicks.
- 1:46Same with whale feeding grounds are also shifting as prey distributions change.
- 1:52Some other things that are happening, you know, you look to see salmon
- 1:54populations in certain areas are dealing with increasingly unstable food
- 1:57conditions during their life stages.
- 1:59So we're seeing that shift in foods in terms of the whole parameters of shifting
- 2:04baselines and everything that's happening.
- 2:06But then there's also another thing that we rarely talk
- 2:09about, and that's upwellings.
- 2:10Upwellings can shift in where they are going to be, 'cause an upwelling is
- 2:13essentially this current that comes from the deep oceans, brings nutrients
- 2:16to the top, phytoplankton, zooplankton, and that will attract forage fish.
- 2:21Those forage fish will come in, and then, of course, their predators
- 2:24are gonna come in, whales, sea turtles, tuna, salmon, cod.
- 2:28Depending on where they are around the world, you get a
- 2:30lot of fish that are coming in.
- 2:31Seabirds, sharks, all these different prey and predator interactions
- 2:34will happen during that time.
- 2:36And that's on different multiple stages.
- 2:37Now, if those upwelling shift, and they shift outside of migration
- 2:42routes, or they shift outside of regular areas that they're normally
- 2:44gonna be, you're gonna see a shift in where those forage fish are gonna go.
- 2:48And you're gonna see a shift in where those predators are gonna
- 2:50go, but there's gonna be some loss of life because of that chaos that
- 2:54happens as shifting baselines happen.
- 2:56And that's something that you don't want to see.
- 2:59So what makes forage fish so important is that they connect the lower ocean
- 3:02productivity to larger predators.
- 3:03They stabilize the ecosystems, just like I talk about how diversity
- 3:07stabilizes ecosystems, which means when ecosystems become stressed,
- 3:11forage fish become even more critical.
- 3:14This matters because climate resilience is not just about
- 3:16protecting species individually.
- 3:18It is about protecting ecosystem function.
- 3:21Healthy ecosystems need strong food webs.
- 3:24They need enough species to absorb environmental stress.
- 3:28Think about it like financial savings.
- 3:30I know.
- 3:31Why are we getting into finance?
- 3:32But just trust me on this.
- 3:34If an ecosystem has abundant forage fish populations, predators have a buffer
- 3:38during difficult environmental periods.
- 3:40But if forage fish populations are already heavily reduced from
- 3:43industrial fishing or habitat stress, ecosystems become more fragile.
- 3:47There's less margin for error.
- 3:49So that means climate impacts can hit harder and faster.
- 3:52And this is especially important because climate change is creating
- 3:56more unpredictability in the ocean.
- 3:59Species are shifting northward because they can go in warmer waters.
- 4:02Seasonal timing is changing.
- 4:04Migration patterns are becoming less reliable, which we're seeing with
- 4:08the North Atlantic right whale when they start to go up to the Gulf of
- 4:10St. Lawrence and where they saw more death because of human impacts.
- 4:14And predators are increasingly competing for food resources that may
- 4:17no longer be consistently available.
- 4:20Now, one concept scientists talk about is timing mismatches.
- 4:23As an example, predators arrive at traditional feeding grounds expecting
- 4:27large schools of forage fish,
- 4:28but warming conditions may have shifted the timing or the
- 4:30location of those forage fish.
- 4:32That means predators show up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
- 4:36And in nature, timing matters, and it can be a heavy consequence if you show
- 4:41up at the wrong place at the wrong time.
- 4:43And before we continue on what happens next, I wanna just talk to
- 4:46you a little bit about how this is all involved in communication.
- 4:49Now, as I'm communicating this to you right now about forage fish, about the
- 4:53fish that nobody talks about or nobody really understands, and how important
- 4:56it is to stabilize an ecosystem, communication is really important, not
- 5:01just for your organization, not just for you as a science communicator.
- 5:04It's important for everybody to understand what is happening in the ocean.
- 5:08And we can't just communicate through peer-reviewed papers because they
- 5:12are behind those walls, those science journal walls that cost
- 5:16forty dollars a paper just to get.
- 5:18And not everybody knows a professor or the academic author
- 5:20who actually puts this together.
- 5:22And so what we really need here is we need people to help us
- 5:25out with science communication.
- 5:26And I work for Pisces Oceans.
- 5:28I'm the ocean communications manager, and we help organizations, academic projects
- 5:33and for-profit companies to get their message out and amplify that message.
- 5:38We look at the strategy of who they're messaging, their target audience, what
- 5:41they're trying to say, why it matters.
- 5:43We have scientists, we have ocean communicators, we have project managers.
- 5:47The whole slew of people in one consulting firm, and we wanna help you.
- 5:52So if you want more information and you wanna find out how you can get
- 5:55help from us, go to piscesoceans.ca.
- 5:58That's piscesoceans.ca.
- 6:00I'll put the link in the show notes and fill out the little tool that
- 6:03I link to so that you can find out where you need help the most.
- 6:07All right, let's get back to our show.
- 6:08Let's talk about what happens next.
- 6:10This is where more scientists and conservation groups are arguing that
- 6:13protecting forage fish should be part of a climate change adaptation
- 6:17policy, not just fisheries policy.
- 6:20There's a major shift in this thinking because for years,
- 6:23climate adaptation discussions focused heavily on infrastructure,
- 6:27emissions, and coastal protection.
- 6:29Those issues absolutely matter.
- 6:32But ecosystems also need biological resistance.
- 6:36And that often starts at the bottom of the food web.
- 6:38Some fisheries managers are already incorporating climate
- 6:41data into stock assessments.
- 6:43Others are exploring more precautionary catch limits during warming periods.
- 6:47Researchers are also using ecosystem models to better
- 6:50understand how climate stress affects predator-prey relationships.
- 6:54But there's still uncertainty in everything that goes on.
- 6:58Climate systems are changing quickly, and forage fish populations can fluctuate
- 7:02naturally even without human pressure.
- 7:05That makes management extremely difficult.
- 7:08Still, one thing is becoming increasingly clear.
- 7:11If ecosystems are going to survive accelerating climate stress, they
- 7:15need strong foundations, and forage fish are part of that foundation.
- 7:20Climate change is testing the resilience of ocean ecosystems, and
- 7:23the species helping hold those systems together may be the smallest
- 7:26fish in the sea, the forage fish.
- 7:28So it's important to get to know more about these forage fish.
- 7:31And if you've been listening for the last three episodes, this is our fourth
- 7:34episode that we do on forage fish, you're gonna wanna hear the next episode where
- 7:38we talk to Jack Daly from Oceana Canada, where they just released a report on
- 7:42the state of forage fish in Canada.
- 7:45I'll be honest, it's not that great, and you're gonna wanna hear why, but
- 7:48the report is really laid out well.
- 7:50It's got a number of different stories from a number of different rights
- 7:53and stakeholders, and I think it's really important to listen to that
- 7:56conversation that I had with Jack Daly.
- 7:57So if you want to know more about what's the conversation is gonna be,
- 8:02I want you to follow this podcast, How to Protect the Ocean podcast, so you
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- 8:13interview on Friday by going Monday to Thursday solo episodes like I'm doing
- 8:17right now to explain and prepare you for what we're gonna be talking about
- 8:20so you have a better understanding of what's gonna happen on Friday.
- 8:23I wanna thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 8:26How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 8:28I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 8:29Have a great day.
- 8:29We'll talk to you tomorrow, and happy conservation.