Latest / The Downbeat / DANI FILTH: Ed Sheeran Collab, Horror Movies & Cradle of Filth History
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- 0:00What's up guys, welcome into the DBP.
- 0:03That was gross wasn't it? The downbeat podcast.
- 0:05It is a personal bucket list guest.
- 0:07It's Danny Filth of Cradle Of Filth, an icon.
- 0:11I'll I'll be honest with you, most of the episodes me gushing.
- 0:14I've probably wanted to speak to this guy for I think he knew as
- 0:17well. I think maybe it's a bit cringe,
- 0:19who knows. I've wanted to speak to Danny
- 0:20Filth since I was about 13, so it was a really good chat.
- 0:24I wanted to ask him, you know, all the normal stuff, but also
- 0:27like, is your house weird? What's with all the collabs?
- 0:30They've got an upcoming collab with Ed Sheeran.
- 0:32We have a amazing story about that.
- 0:35Great guest, great guy. I really appreciate him taking
- 0:38the time. Iconic band.
- 2:03Danny Filth legend. Greetings.
- 2:06Welcome to the Downbeat. Thank you.
- 2:08Thanks for having. Me.
- 2:09Thank you for coming. A literal legend in that chair.
- 2:13You captured me. I did.
- 2:15I literally came and captured you.
- 2:17I heard a bit of soundcheck sounding unreal.
- 2:20Yes, all right. We're kind of getting to the
- 2:23flow of being back out on tour now.
- 2:24Got bit of a new crew which is always a new monitor engineer
- 2:29and lighting. Monitor new monitor engineer.
- 2:32Yeah, I know. I was scared.
- 2:34Can I say shitless? Yeah, you.
- 2:35Oh, OK. The only one you can't say is
- 2:38the word that you put on the back of a T-shirt.
- 2:40Oh, OK. All right.
- 2:41We can. We can believe.
- 2:42That would be one thing to say. Yeah, Yeah.
- 2:45So no, it's going well. Long story short, no fights with
- 2:48the monitor engineer. No, not yet.
- 2:50It's a couple of shouts. It's got to be the worst job.
- 2:53It really has. Yeah, no one likes you.
- 2:55Ever. He's actually a very likeable
- 2:58chap. I don't know how long that will
- 3:00last. Good to him, Glasgow.
- 3:03You've got a you've got a checkered history with Glasgow.
- 3:06I don't know if you remember. Have we?
- 3:08Yeah, The the Lord. Oh I thought you meant like
- 3:12fights or. Something.
- 3:13No, no, for that I think the Lord Provost, I think they call
- 3:17him He. Whoever he is.
- 3:18He denounced you. His name's Alex.
- 3:20Alex Mawson. I don't know if you remember him
- 3:22by by name. Not by name.
- 3:24No, I'm a big kind of fellow fan, by the way, just just so
- 3:27you know. That was a long time ago, wasn't
- 3:29it? It was.
- 3:29It was. A 99 something like that, I
- 3:32think 2001. He he was 99 to 2003.
- 3:36So it was in between there. Yeah.
- 3:38I'm guessing it was around that time he called you, I think,
- 3:42sick and obscene. Oh, wow.
- 3:45And you used it on maybe a live DVD probably as like back?
- 3:51At the top. The quote at the top, I remember
- 3:52seeing it in Kerrang. What I was going to ask you have
- 3:55you ever, because obviously you've had a, you know, a fair
- 3:59few people not happy with your music, including him, have you
- 4:04had any like, memorable encounters with protesters?
- 4:08No, strangely enough, you'd think Deep South America, but
- 4:14your head didn't do would be all placards, you know?
- 4:18And banners. And you know the devil has taken
- 4:21over the music. Whatever.
- 4:23One guy I think outside a complex who you know and I
- 4:27didn't even came for us. And the same with Russia.
- 4:29When we were touring in Russia, we were literally running
- 4:31parallel with cannibal corps and we did a massive tour back and
- 4:34it was like 19 shows ended up above North Korea and they were
- 4:40touring at the same time and two of the shows had to be cancelled
- 4:43or redirect. One of them got cancelled, but
- 4:47it turned out the truck carrying the PA turned over on the way
- 4:51there, and the second one just got redirected to a small club.
- 4:55We couldn't play. So we just ended up doing like
- 4:57acoustics. Acoustics, he says, not doing
- 5:00anything toward it and the signing or whatever, because the
- 5:04guy was fearful that the police would shut him down, didn't even
- 5:08turn up or anything. Meanwhile, cannibal courts were
- 5:11like every single show they were having Gypful.
- 5:16But no, no, I don't know why we did get arrested at the Vatican,
- 5:20but that was our fault for turning out there wearing.
- 5:22What did you do? Well, actually it was Korang's
- 5:26fault. They came out on the Cruelty
- 5:27tour and it was like the first one of the big first shows there
- 5:32where Napalm Death supporting and they said, oh, we've got
- 5:35photography, we want to do a bit of a story.
- 5:38So we'll take you into and we'll film you against, you know, some
- 5:42sites. Yeah, Yeah, we're thinking, you
- 5:44know, outside the Colosseum, that kind of thing.
- 5:47Not some, some. Is it some Peters Square?
- 5:49I don't know one of the most holy places on earth.
- 5:52Yeah, driven thing from my memory.
- 5:53But anyway, that being said, I do remember it.
- 5:58So yeah, there was completely empty.
- 6:00And then we're taking these photos and what have you and
- 6:03armed police just came out from nowhere, surrounded us with guns
- 6:05and like, you know, machine guns and talking very excitedly as
- 6:12one guy who could speak English. He was trying to explain why
- 6:15everybody was so fucking angry. It wasn't the Jesus of the
- 6:18shirt. It wasn't the I had this cheeky
- 6:22Camden I Love Satan T-shirt. Yeah, I know.
- 6:25I know exactly the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 98.
- 6:28Yeah, late 90s. But they're more offended at
- 6:30all. Keyboardist was dressed up as a
- 6:33vicar, like a priest. He that was his thing.
- 6:36Apparently that carries death sentence or something.
- 6:39Not death sentence, but. Close to.
- 6:41Close to imprisonment in the Vatican, which is, you know, I
- 6:44mean a state unto itself. But luckily this guy had some
- 6:49semblance of what we were talking about.
- 6:50And apparently his cousin was a fan of metal in general.
- 6:53Knew that we were playing with Napalm Death outside the city
- 6:56for well, we don't detain them here.
- 6:59There's going to be a bit of a mini riot over there. 3000 odd
- 7:02people let us go. But it wasn't without a lot of,
- 7:07you know. That's amazing.
- 7:08I wonder if when they let they let you go wouldn't have been
- 7:11Google back then. I was going to say they Googled
- 7:12you ask Jeeves. What was it not?
- 7:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:16Like I wonder if they found out later on.
- 7:18Like we could have done him. We could.
- 7:20We had him right there. The T-shirt guy.
- 7:22Ask Christ. Askchrist.com Malignant
- 7:26Perfection. It's awesome.
- 7:29I'm a big fan. Cool.
- 7:30I'm a big fan. I.
- 7:31Just saw the Justin Hawkins thing the other day.
- 7:33He did a big podcast just on that song.
- 7:37Got a bit muser in it, like playing along with it and
- 7:39everything, but it was generally really funky funny.
- 7:42What was your thoughts on him? He's really nice, Blair,
- 7:44actually, he said, oh, I remember Danny.
- 7:46And I was thinking that's he's just making this weird story up.
- 7:49And then it turns out it was a nightclub he used to frequent
- 7:52and his little tale would ring to and be being, you know,
- 7:57relatively drunk at the time. But he doesn't mention anything
- 8:01else. Like, you know.
- 8:02I like. Partying with him, you know, in
- 8:05the toilets. Go on, you want.
- 8:06To mention it, you can mention it.
- 8:09The Forum Metal Hammer Awards years ago.
- 8:12You know what I mean? When it, when it, when it was a
- 8:14thing. Partying in the toilets?
- 8:15What? What on earth were you doing in
- 8:17there? Just having that, a roller
- 8:18disco, a 70s roller disco, that's what I meant.
- 8:21So it did. I'm not clear.
- 8:22That's absolutely fine. The, the song, what I wanted to
- 8:27ask you, I don't want to go too much into it about like, you
- 8:31know, boring, boring press stuff.
- 8:33However, they're your inspiration for lyrics you've
- 8:40previously, you know, taken on literary and, like, horror movie
- 8:45stuff. Yeah.
- 8:47What's the story with this one? The new.
- 8:49Album. And is it horny now?
- 8:52Particularly the new song? Does it come out of horniness?
- 8:57Does it? Yeah, it does.
- 8:58A little bit, yeah. I think everything comes a bit
- 9:00out of sex and it's like a marriage of sex and death.
- 9:03Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, I guess a new album, new
- 9:07album isn't themed as such because every now expects us
- 9:10like they do with King Diamond, that every record we do is going
- 9:13to have this overarching theme or be a fool, you know,
- 9:16soundtrack or something. Admittedly, we have done four or
- 9:19five conceptual records, but this one isn't is is is more
- 9:25just recently as a band, we we decided like we're going to
- 9:30write songs. And there's, I mean, there's a
- 9:33couple on the album that are a little bit, you know, more long
- 9:36winded and more like what we used to do, but Dissection esque
- 9:39or whatever. But yeah, of late we've just
- 9:41been really trying to write songs that people can remember
- 9:44and that we enjoy really playing.
- 9:46And really, I mean, not that we haven't done that before, but
- 9:50it's, it's just been a thing where we've concentrated more on
- 9:52the music. With a with a concept album,
- 9:55it's really can difficult to because you're like each one's a
- 9:59chapter and at some point or another there's going to be the
- 10:03the joining bit, you know, to make it all make sense because
- 10:06otherwise you're like going, what the fuck is this about?
- 10:09That's why so many people think, you know, Oh my God, this band
- 10:12is great. It's on the concert record and
- 10:14the band's going. Have we the fucking idea?
- 10:17Oh yes, of course. Yeah, that's what it means.
- 10:20When you do a concept record, are you starting with lyrics or
- 10:23are you starting with music? That's our thing, because I
- 10:26always let them let the band play around with music until we
- 10:29get like two or three songs that you go right, this is a
- 10:33direction. It's not just aimless, you know,
- 10:36and. In Factory, how do you then
- 10:39like, like what you're saying? Like obviously a part of it is
- 10:42the climax of the story. How do you then like arrange the
- 10:45song so the right bit of music is there?
- 10:47How? Do you do a 500 piece puzzle of
- 10:50a jaw? You know what?
- 10:51I. Mean does it take a long time?
- 10:53Yeah. Does it take like like before
- 10:57the last record as a four year gap?
- 10:58Yeah, but that was COVID happened.
- 11:00We actually recorded. Write some songs.
- 11:02Well, we did. We were in the studio recording
- 11:04that album during COVID and it was very nice.
- 11:07It was too, you know, it was only me and the, the, the the
- 11:12studio engineer could go there a couple of times, have
- 11:16roadblocks, but it was fine. We live out in the countryside
- 11:19and every night I'd draw. I just bought a new car, so I
- 11:22was dry. I'd dry purposely.
- 11:24Audi, by the way. Completely the opposite side
- 11:27just like a drive back through the town because it was like
- 11:29Silent Hill, no no one around it was eerily cry like zombie
- 11:34apocalypse. Did you take any flights during
- 11:36COVID? On the on the tail end, yeah.
- 11:38It was glorious. There was no one there.
- 11:41The only people that were there had like a visa that meant they
- 11:43could go so everyone knew. Give some space at the baggage
- 11:47thing when your group numbers called.
- 11:49I loved it. And then immediately the media
- 11:50author, it's. Just back-to-back to normal.
- 11:52I know. Yeah, we got to America and then
- 11:56that was odd because every show had to have a COVID test.
- 12:00Yeah, I was there as well. And then there were two both
- 12:03support bands, they contracted COVID and they both had to leave
- 12:07the tool. 1st all back. And we really, we're playing New
- 12:10York and yeah, we everybody had to wait around to literally
- 12:15about half 1011 for us to go on. Kind of like a bit miffed it
- 12:19just happened just there and then.
- 12:20Did you get it on the tour? No, no, our guitarist did.
- 12:24When we got to Canada, we had to leave him behind.
- 12:26So we had one guitar and then occasionally our guitar tip
- 12:31would decide he'd get up and do another song.
- 12:33Occasionally just just pop up. Well, just occasionally we told
- 12:36him to. Yeah, I got, I got COVID on the
- 12:391st tour back and I was so unwell.
- 12:42I was like I don't think I want to do this anymore.
- 12:44I was fucked really. I'm back.
- 12:47Touch. Oh my God, is that real wood?
- 12:49I don't know know what, Danny, I've got no fucking idea.
- 12:54Touch wood that because I only got it once and it was like
- 12:57really fucking mild. Super Marvel touched.
- 13:00Some actual wood. They had fucking Larsa Works
- 13:02drumsticks. They're not even fucking Woody
- 13:03Plays metal once. Do it.
- 13:05Yeah. Made of metal.
- 13:06So you mentioned you live near. Was it Sky Akins?
- 13:12Scott Atkins. Yeah, Well, near his studio
- 13:14anyway. So did Scott do the new stuff as
- 13:16well? Yeah, Scott's pretty much done
- 13:18everything we've done since 2012, even my other other band.
- 13:23Great. Great mixer.
- 13:25Yeah, he's, he's good. He he just used to hear me get
- 13:28the best out of us. And he's like this, you know, go
- 13:31right. We're doing another album.
- 13:33He's going to set. We'll do exactly the same thing.
- 13:35It's always like, no, we'll, we'll do this, we'll try this,
- 13:38we'll mix it up a bit. And again, new songs.
- 13:41That's that's the thing about a new album that has some
- 13:43different songs on it. Different songs, different.
- 13:45Do you have to like go and read loads of books, like because
- 13:49you've always got like this song's about this, this song's
- 13:52about this. Do you have to like just go,
- 13:54I've got to write some fucking lyrics.
- 13:55I've got to go and read a book club, always read a book.
- 13:58I've always wanted to read. No, just download Audible.
- 14:02No, no, no, no, just just read. Generally not.
- 14:06I'm not a bookworm as such. And actually, to be honest, now
- 14:10I've learnt to cook a bit, I have been listening to Audible.
- 14:12You're. Cooking.
- 14:13What are you cooking? HelloFresh.
- 14:15I loved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 14:16My, my my girlfriend introduced me to it, whom I met during the
- 14:21pandemic. And since then I was like, wait,
- 14:24because what I hate about cooking is like spending a day
- 14:27looking for the bloody ingredients.
- 14:29It's an ad. Now you're doing an ad.
- 14:31You're not even fucking bad, Fresh.
- 14:34That's fucking amazing. We still need to talk about that
- 14:36fucking song. I malignant perfection, Yes, I
- 14:39want to know what the lyrics, what inspired the lyrics?
- 14:42You really wanted to write a song that it was so catchy and I
- 14:46thought, I want to combine the something with something that
- 14:48people would put on at a certain time.
- 14:51And that's like, we're not writing a Christmas song.
- 14:53Are we fucking stupid? I mean, yeah, Halloween was
- 14:59because we wrote it last year was coming up and it just got
- 15:02that vibe from the song. I just wanted to sort of embody
- 15:05the spirit of it, give it a bit, like you say, a little bit of
- 15:09sexiness about it as well. And because it was so catchy,
- 15:13something that when people are like, because I have a playlist
- 15:16for for Halloween and generally most of the songs got Halloween
- 15:19in the title. Yeah, ironically enough.
- 15:21So King. Diamond, as mentioned earlier,
- 15:24what is on your Halloween playlist?
- 15:25Halloween by the Misfits Halloween 2 by Sam Hain type
- 15:30sound. Typo negative.
- 15:31Take these Halloween. Yeah, typo, negative.
- 15:35Definitely some the soundtrack. Three about 3 typo Halloween
- 15:39songs with one with Halloween in the title.
- 15:41What is it? Halloween coming in heaven?
- 15:43Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
- 15:44And then there's Black Hallows. Well, black number ones, Yeah,
- 15:48much Halloween in. It Oh, I've got a question for
- 15:50this, but we can go straight into it 'cause we're on topic
- 15:52prior to Nymphetamine. Yeah, you did a tour with Type O
- 15:57Negative. Yeah, they supported us.
- 15:58Believe that. Fucking hell.
- 15:59Type O Negative is my favorite band of all time, so number one,
- 16:04I just want to know if you've got any cool stories from that.
- 16:06Yeah, yeah, loads. You've got anything that pops
- 16:08out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:10Well, the the thing was we we headlined the B stage that year
- 16:13of the American Oz Fest. So we had that and that was all
- 16:16of a sudden that was like 10 glorious alcohol soaked weeks in
- 16:20the under the American sun, you know?
- 16:21Yeah, it was amazing. And then we had that to finish
- 16:25the year. So it was like Moon spell typo
- 16:28and us what? A fucking line up.
- 16:30It was it was amazing. And yeah, there's.
- 16:32So many hot goth girls there. I'm sorry.
- 16:34There was, thankfully. Yeah, sorry.
- 16:36There. There were two stories that
- 16:38stick. Well, three stories.
- 16:40My boy was Kenny was. Oh, fuck it.
- 16:45Yeah. He didn't bring me back.
- 16:46Anyway, Kenny, Kenny Hickey wasn't supposed to be drinking.
- 16:50He was like, Oh no, you can't drink.
- 16:52You know what you like when you drink.
- 16:54They're all you know. I think there was one day where
- 16:57we were led to believe that Pete's mum was ill and they'd
- 17:00flown and I was like in their port.
- 17:02Grand Rapids is there? He flown back to New York
- 17:05overnight and that's why they weren't doing the gig.
- 17:08You were natural fat. He was crashed down the back of
- 17:10their bus and he had a Bender and just didn't want to do it.
- 17:15Yeah, that was the day that I didn't realize we're doing the
- 17:17gig. And I was I said I'm going to, I
- 17:19know we're not doing the gig. So I'll be with the bar around
- 17:21the corner and like literally the tour manager and the crew
- 17:25without even listening to me. So it's halfway to being half
- 17:29cut when the support bank at Moon Spell came in all with
- 17:33their make up still on. And I was like, what the fuck
- 17:35are you doing? And they said you are playing
- 17:39about 20 minutes. It was awful, fucking awful gig.
- 17:43But no Kenny Hickey, I think we're in Ohio and he wasn't
- 17:49supposed to be drinking. And one of the band said to me,
- 17:52Kenny's going do us a favour while you're while you're there.
- 17:56I know you get on. Can you just take him away from
- 18:00the merch stand because he's really embarrassing everybody.
- 18:02And also there's a bottle of whiskey.
- 18:05Try and get it off him and hide the fucking thing.
- 18:08So I do both things, engaging with conversation, whatever it
- 18:12was. I have to paint a picture here.
- 18:14This was, it was snowing, so there was ice in the car park
- 18:18outside this gig. So why, why the nightclubs going
- 18:23on afterwards, just the same venue?
- 18:25I'm there talking to him, introducing something, grab the
- 18:29bottle from him. Or, you know, take it, have a
- 18:31swig, and then surreptitiously go and hide it up on the bus.
- 18:36I didn't realize you'd seen me do it.
- 18:37And I came back down and next thing I know I'm just lying in
- 18:40this puddle going, oh fucking hell, He just chimed me.
- 18:44So I got up and we had this massive fight, or it looked like
- 18:47a massive fight to everybody else.
- 18:49Everybody was like fucking horrified, and there wasn't much
- 18:54of it. They split us up and whatever
- 18:55and don't think anything of it. Fucking fights with people all
- 18:59the time. So next day we're in Detroit and
- 19:04Pete comes to me in the Goose Derby.
- 19:07I'm so sorry about the shit that Kelly did last night.
- 19:10The old man is so shit. Fuck me, I don't have a personal
- 19:14word with that motherfucker. And anyway, I wanted to carry on
- 19:17doing the Voice. I loved it but.
- 19:19He, he, we then decided we're having a bit of a laugh about
- 19:23things that he said. I've got a dressing room
- 19:25upstairs full of hot chicks and industry types and whatever.
- 19:29Let's go in there and really shake things up.
- 19:31So basically just this room fucking froze.
- 19:35We kicked the door in me and him pretending we were having a
- 19:38fight. It's like he's 8 foot tall like
- 19:415 foot 5 like looking like we're reading.
- 19:44We were like kick the furniture and everything.
- 19:46The whole room just fucking froze and even when we stopped
- 19:50doing it and just went, people were still like what the fuck?
- 19:55Horrified. Yeah, that was pretty funny and
- 19:58didn't really engage too much with Pete.
- 20:00It was a bit of a lone a lot of the time.
- 20:02But you got him because a bottle of wine to him was like, you
- 20:05know, a little mini bottle. Yeah, giant man.
- 20:08Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 20:09So he'd be there with a bottle of wine in hand, slugging away
- 20:12and that, and he'd probably call you over and have a little chat
- 20:15with you. I mean, it's quite an
- 20:17interaction you had storming through that room.
- 20:19Yeah, it was funny. I got into typo literally the
- 20:22day he died because I was like a kid and then he died and it was
- 20:26all over Koran and I was like, oh, I should probably check this
- 20:29out. And now I checked out.
- 20:30I was like, Oh my God, it's so fucking good.
- 20:32I never get to see him. Well, I was a fan of Carnivore
- 20:35during my flash metal days and then when the typo thing came
- 20:38out, I didn't really did a couple of records and didn't
- 20:40really strike me at all. And then I'll back in 93 when we
- 20:47were recording the principle of Even Way Flesh.
- 20:50We went up to Academy Studios in Dewsbury and I'll guy that was
- 20:56like a record company. Guy came with us and he had this
- 21:00four track of bloody kisses, which I think was we don't the
- 21:05one that sounds like Tracy's sister, because there's like
- 21:07loads of different that one summer Brees black number one
- 21:10and Christian woman. But edits and yeah, it was so
- 21:14fresh and so new that literally that there was a couple of
- 21:20records that just became the soundtrack to us recording.
- 21:23That's amazing on a full track. Do you think that's spilled into
- 21:27your lyrics, Torium? And them, well, I may have
- 21:31influenced Nymphetamine the album.
- 21:33A little bit. That's what I was thinking,
- 21:35because it's sex. But they they, yeah, they were
- 21:37on Life is Killing Me at that point.
- 21:40That was that tour. And they had a really cool, they
- 21:43were support them, but they had a really fucking cool simplistic
- 21:47stage show which was amazing. But they were all in prison
- 21:51uniforms and they had wrapped. They'd like a little tower with
- 21:54a Searchlight on it, I think 2 set, 2 towers, 2 searchlights
- 21:59and, you know, fake barbed wire round things.
- 22:03It looked really cool. Yeah, it looked really cool.
- 22:06I'm got it, I never got to see them.
- 22:07Speaking of nymphetamine, while we're on that I've got 2
- 22:10questions. This is just me, if you don't
- 22:12like my questions, fuck you because this is me asking
- 22:14someone that I respect what I want to know.
- 22:18Nymphetamine Fix, It was Grammy nominated.
- 22:22Yeah, I've got 2 questions, which is the press agents are
- 22:25going to hate you because they're supposed to be talking
- 22:27about new stuff, but I just want to know because I can't find it
- 22:30anywhere. What was the reason between
- 22:32having If you don't know if you're listening, there's an
- 22:34amphetamine overdose, which is the long song.
- 22:36Yeah, fucking ribs. And then there's an amphetamine
- 22:39fix, which is just a shorter version.
- 22:42It's a bridged version. It's just the bit in the middle
- 22:44taken out because they want it for radio.
- 22:48We didn't want it, we didn't want to edit it.
- 22:50So we took it out and it because the the the main songs like a
- 22:54trip tickets got like a 2 wings either side so.
- 22:57Heavy, sexy, heavy, heavy, sexy heavy and he took sexy out.
- 23:01Got nominated for a Grammy. Did you go to the Grammys?
- 23:03No, I was in India, my mum used to rent a house, a villa in, in
- 23:08Goa for like 6 months, me just going through a hippie phase and
- 23:12we went out for Christmas. And I remember even seen as like
- 23:16a, a paper out there and obviously a newspaper and
- 23:22there's a journalist who it was on the front page and he'd gone
- 23:26to the Grammys and he voted for nymphetamine.
- 23:28And that was the thing. He had a picture of us on that
- 23:30and we were like, Oh my God, fuck, it's happening today.
- 23:32While you were in India? While we were in India, Yeah,
- 23:35this is like. In a paper in India, yeah, While
- 23:37you were there, yeah. That's got to be like, Oh my
- 23:39mum, look at. This.
- 23:40No, no, no, no, she, she found it.
- 23:42And yeah, it was just, we kind of got beaten by it was how some
- 23:47killswitch were up for like, and a Motörhead and Motörhead were
- 23:51doing a cover of Metallica's Whiplash.
- 23:53It wasn't even a proper song. You know the industry types and.
- 23:56Oh, we know Motörhead. Yeah.
- 23:57Yeah, that's what happened every single fucking year.
- 23:59It's kind of what this guy intimated in his his very Indian
- 24:04way. They say things like turn turtle
- 24:08and soup turned upside down. If a car car gets hit on the
- 24:13road, they they say it's turned turtle.
- 24:15Turned turtle. And they say super sleuth
- 24:18instead of detective. Everyone's observation, it just
- 24:22sticks out. Super sleuth, super sleuth.
- 24:25It's great, isn't it? It's like.
- 24:26That's. Fucking fun.
- 24:27You expect a gadget? You mentioned your girlfriend
- 24:29twice now I've mentioned sexy lyrics she amuse.
- 24:35Yeah, yeah, I would say, well, I wrote she is a fire about her
- 24:38actually. That's what I was going to ask
- 24:40are any, because there's a lot, there's a lot of like I'm sexy.
- 24:45He's doing it a disservice. There's a lot of.
- 24:47I mean, it's sexy, but there's a lot of.
- 24:49Erotica. Erotica and adoration in there,
- 24:52Yeah. And I was wondering.
- 24:54Yeah, I would say she's a very sexy lady.
- 24:58It's have a muse. Yeah, it is actually.
- 25:00I've got a bit of a. Vision at my age, I've.
- 25:03Got a bit of a muse but I can't really write lyrics so I don't
- 25:05really know what to do. It makes me work harder so I can
- 25:08buy her things. You should start a podcast.
- 25:10Yeah, that's what I've done, Danny.
- 25:11I think that's exactly what I've done.
- 25:13While we're on the subject of recordings anyway, just go and
- 25:16check out. If you don't know Craig, just go
- 25:18and check it out. Legendary, iconic.
- 25:21Just fucking sick. More stop stops.
- 25:23I'm going to suck him off at the end of this.
- 25:26What I want to know. I know he can write a song about
- 25:29it. That could be the next.
- 25:31Everything's inspiration. It's the most it's the most, you
- 25:36know, anti Christian thing you could do really, really actually
- 25:41anyway you could top. That, enough of that.
- 25:43You haven't pissed on a church. It's not one of my questions.
- 25:45To live next to a church, actually like literally next
- 25:48door to a very famous church in Suffolk.
- 25:51And anything I didn't like about it was Sunday mornings, because
- 25:55obviously fucking clatter of bells waking you from your
- 25:58slumber, your eternal rest. You didn't.
- 26:00You didn't like it, do you? Sleep.
- 26:02No. I love I.
- 26:02Actually, imagine you sleep like this.
- 26:04Yeah, I sleep more with my hands very like literally if I sleep
- 26:08around my girlfriends house I should hack my own arm off
- 26:11because she I end up and she's sleeping on it.
- 26:15That's cute though. Not really, it's painful.
- 26:17That's cute. I'm still gonna get on to these
- 26:20questions that I have on music. But while we're on the House
- 26:22thing, irrespective of our conversation in the car, I want
- 26:26to know, is your house like mad Spooky?
- 26:28Yes. Like I've seen a following on
- 26:31Instagram. I've seen in the background.
- 26:32You've never really done like a house tour.
- 26:34I don't want to, you know, I'm away from home too much.
- 26:37And then people are really sort of like judgmental.
- 26:39What did you do that as fuck off?
- 26:41I love all that shit. It's a bit of a museum, I must
- 26:43admit. Very tidy museum, but a museum,
- 26:46yeah. It's been really weird in there.
- 26:48Dialect. A dialect.
- 26:50Yeah, black dialect, dialect SEC.
- 26:52Yeah, the speaks and everything. All sides?
- 26:54Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Where is it?
- 26:56What room? Garden Room.
- 26:58Garden Room. What's a garden room?
- 27:00A room next to a garden. Conservatory.
- 27:02No, it's just like it's. A room.
- 27:04It's next. To a garden it did.
- 27:05I haven't got much of A garden. Right.
- 27:07To be honest, it's a townhouse that used to be other houses and
- 27:11they they raffled off my fucking land.
- 27:14What else is in the Daleks room? In my head You've got suits of
- 27:18armour you got. Like, no, I've got a couple of
- 27:24so-called, you know, full size sarcophagus.
- 27:26Oh. Rico cover guys, Really where do
- 27:29you get them from? Where you buying a sarcophagus?
- 27:31I put ace, Kevin Camden. It's it's obviously not a real
- 27:341. That little shop in the lock.
- 27:36Might have been. I want to buy there's like AI
- 27:39know exactly the shop that has all that weird stuff in it yeah
- 27:42there's it's still there there's like a full size samurai armour
- 27:46yeah and I want to buy it so much I.
- 27:49Reckon that was a place, yeah. It's definitely the same place
- 27:52with the same you and I. Yeah, just lots of statues and
- 27:58tribal masks, which I pick up all around the world.
- 28:01Awesome, you never think about letting anyone in for a little.
- 28:04No, my house is on the market and nobody knew.
- 28:08I mean, that's why I didn't sell it.
- 28:10I got a serial killer painting that's John Wayne Gacy.
- 28:13Really rare one. By him.
- 28:15By him, yeah. Physically drawn by him.
- 28:18Yeah, yeah, Painted. Whatever he's done with it,
- 28:20it's, it's terrible. I mean, it's it's not, of
- 28:23course. It is he was busy doing other
- 28:24stuff. Well, This is why I was in
- 28:26prison. It's got a prison release form
- 28:28in it. It's got a bit of his blood
- 28:30mixed in with it, but it's of the universal monsters, though
- 28:33you wouldn't really know that. It's like a child's done it and
- 28:36then the Jason mask in the middle.
- 28:38Apparently it's really rare because he normally just smaller
- 28:40pictures. He did the Jason mask.
- 28:43No, he he just drew it in the middle.
- 28:44It's like universal monsters. Right.
- 28:46The Mummy. Dracula.
- 28:48Oh yeah. Frankenstein He.
- 28:50Likes a bit of horror. Did he?
- 28:51Who knew? Well, that's it.
- 28:54I mean, the books, Yeah, that's pretty.
- 28:56I mean, you know, RIP to everyone involved, but that's
- 29:00kind of cool. It's got enough times passed for
- 29:02me to say that's cool, isn't it? I'm cancelled now.
- 29:04Again. Great.
- 29:06You briefly mentioned the principle, the evil made flesh.
- 29:10Yeah, you have, and I am very thankful for this.
- 29:14But I'd like to know your thought process behind it.
- 29:16You've previously remixed songs from that and you did Cruelty
- 29:23Remistressed, which was also remixed.
- 29:25Yeah, that needed remixing. Because in my opinion, like when
- 29:29I see a remaster I'm always like that's a fucking money grab.
- 29:32Like rarely rarely is anything really need remastered.
- 29:36Like how many times the Black Album been remastered?
- 29:38Remastered one of a record I really like, Bathory and the
- 29:42Sun, Black Mark and everybody listens to it.
- 29:44Doesn't matter where you go to listen to this one, you go fuck.
- 29:47It's unlistenable. It's unlistenable.
- 29:49The drums got so much reverb on them.
- 29:52It just, it renders a record rubbish.
- 29:55Everybody listens to that record.
- 29:58There's original pressing of it sound fucking incredible.
- 30:01And vinyl. I think you could probably track
- 30:03it down on a not to buy but to listen to on YouTube.
- 30:06But I don't know who the fuck did that.
- 30:08But it's become a staple because that's all anybody knows and
- 30:11that's when it's shit. Somebody does a bad job.
- 30:16But we we just took it. We were able to get the masters
- 30:19and we just reverentially, reverentially I, I don't, I
- 30:24think it's. You're the word Smith.
- 30:25I'm going, yeah. It's a yeah.
- 30:27Yeah, It's a new word. I just came out with Yeah, we we
- 30:31painstakingly brought it back to life.
- 30:34So. Nothing was retracted, it was
- 30:35just. No, no, no.
- 30:36It was just just all remixed. Because I love.
- 30:38It from scratch. I agree it needed remixing and I
- 30:41love it when people do a remix that needed to be done.
- 30:45Yeah, and not just a money grab, but like, oh.
- 30:49Yeah, God, it was a money grab as well.
- 30:51Really. No, I was going to say because
- 30:53you would have just remastered it.
- 30:54Yeah, well, it was painstaking. That's that's what after time
- 30:57you spent more time on. You got any plans to do any of
- 30:59the others? Not as yet.
- 31:01I'd like to do Midian. Yes, thank God you said that
- 31:03I'd. Like to do Midian but I'm not
- 31:05sure if the masters are still a thing because there was a fire
- 31:08at the a publishing company which stored and I can't
- 31:12remember if they disappeared or not.
- 31:14I'd have to look into that. Retrack it.
- 31:17Go through the whole thing again with Jesus Christ.
- 31:19Median again. 2000 Geez, that was a different person then.
- 31:23I tell you what I don't know. He's speaking a median, The
- 31:25voice at the beginning. It's not Christopher Lee, is it?
- 31:29Of of her ghost in the fog. No, no, that's Doug Bradley
- 31:33Pinhead. Pinhead.
- 31:34Yeah. How?
- 31:34Amazing. He's been on four of our
- 31:36records, I think really maybe 5. Anytime it's spooky, anytime
- 31:40it's spooky voice, it's literally Pinhead.
- 31:42Most of it, yeah. Not not all of it.
- 31:45Some of it. How do you most of it?
- 31:47How do you get pinhead pinheads numbered You get out of John
- 31:50Wayne Gacy. Well, he's a he's a good friend
- 31:52now. Actually he's been to my house
- 31:55because we needed to track an extra part from him.
- 31:58So I said we haven't got to just bring it to my house and I
- 32:00converted my. Garden Room.
- 32:04My office into a makeshift recording studio.
- 32:07For Pinhead. Yeah, which is kind of weird
- 32:09because I had pictures of Pinhead on the wall, which he'd
- 32:11signed before. That's amazing.
- 32:13No, it was good fun. He's he's a really jovial, nice
- 32:17guy. Lives in America now, in
- 32:18Pittsburgh of all places. Did you ever see, I mean, don't
- 32:22talk to me about moving to America to be weird somewhere.
- 32:25But he's not Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, it kind of sucks, no
- 32:29offence. Pittsburgh.
- 32:30Good bridge though. That bridge is in Batman.
- 32:32Perfect. Still watch a bunch of horror
- 32:34films. Absolutely.
- 32:36You know what, I, I, I, I got out of it for a while, but
- 32:38recently I think mainly because like I said, we we talk pre talk
- 32:43amble about girlfriend breaking the leg and maybe sort of
- 32:46spending a lot of time looking after whatever.
- 32:48Watched a lot of horror movies recently and I can name some
- 32:51really good ones. I think this year has been.
- 32:53That's what one I want some recommendations.
- 32:55Terrify 3. I haven't seen one or two.
- 32:57Should I be doing this? No it.
- 32:59Doesn't matter. There's a bit of a back story,
- 33:02but it doesn't really count. I'd be like Abigail.
- 33:07Oh God. Now, now when I say there's
- 33:10hundreds of movies late night, but The Devil was really good.
- 33:15Yeah. I, I didn't really want to watch
- 33:16it because the premise didn't sound great.
- 33:19So I left it to the last minute and I thought, I've got a few.
- 33:23I packed really early for Australia when we went on tour
- 33:25or something. I was like, I've got some hours
- 33:27free. I can't believe it the night
- 33:28before. So I watched that and then
- 33:30ironically, when I got on the plane, it suggests some things
- 33:33for you if you've flown Qantas for a while, you know, or
- 33:35whatever. And that was the first film.
- 33:39Qantas knows that you're spooky as fuck.
- 33:41Qantas were just like yeah this fucker will love this.
- 33:44And they had it on there that. Was really I loved it.
- 33:46I loved it. I loved how 80s it looked and
- 33:48felt and everything in the ending was cool.
- 33:50Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. I loved it.
- 33:53Fucked. There's loads of them, but of
- 33:55course I wasn't overly keen on that Nick Cage film that
- 33:59everybody was, what was it called Daddy Not Daddy Long
- 34:05Legs. Long legs.
- 34:06No, I haven't seen it yet about. I've seen divided people saying
- 34:09it's the best film ever. No, it really wasn't.
- 34:11I'm fucking love my horror to bits.
- 34:14And it wasn't it it it kind of gets that way and you think
- 34:17about this is really cultist and it's shot really well and very
- 34:20original and weird. And then suddenly it just it
- 34:23just sort of like third quarter. It just descends into the
- 34:27predictability factor. The book of Revelations.
- 34:31This, this you just go oh snore. And you're like I did.
- 34:34That and then it just ends in a way where it just, you just
- 34:37don't feel like satiated by it. Do you know what I mean?
- 34:39What do you think of hereditary? That was great that there's a a
- 34:43a few films that have come along of that ilk of every since
- 34:48Midsummer and then Mandy. Mandy was great.
- 34:51Mandy score is amazing as well. Yeah, yeah, I've actually got
- 34:54that. I'm a massive soundtrack fan.
- 34:56That's my. Thing same.
- 34:58That's my thing. Soundtracks.
- 35:00Yeah. With the turn of Coppola's
- 35:03Dracula, I also like soundtracks.
- 35:05I never bought them before then, like Star Wars and stuff that
- 35:08and then after that was a turning point after once for
- 35:11Coppolas, you know, the gram Stoker.
- 35:13Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That fucking got hundreds now.
- 35:16Like the Dracula soundtrack? Unreal.
- 35:18Like the opening scene, all that stuff.
- 35:20When? He's never a good film, which
- 35:21has got a similar theme. Weird thing was it was supposed
- 35:26to come out two years ago at the cinema and they buried it and
- 35:29then it was, it had come out in America and I just assumed it
- 35:32flopped. Which obviously did put The Last
- 35:35Voyage of the Demeter, which is the boat that takes Dracula to
- 35:39to me. And it's got a cast of superb.
- 35:43It's so well done. It's proper gothic horror,
- 35:46violent, looks amazing, you know what I mean?
- 35:50It took me two years to watch it.
- 35:51You can buy it anywhere. I thought they're just like, it
- 35:56was like a legal loophole where they had to get rid of it and I
- 36:00saw that recently. And how did you see it?
- 36:01And if you can't watch anywhere? I can't tell you.
- 36:05Danny Phelps got a cracked Fire Stick.
- 36:08It was a Blu-ray that somebody gave me.
- 36:11Oh, so I can't just go and watch that?
- 36:12Well, because it was American Blu-ray.
- 36:14But you don't have to fucking buy it.
- 36:16Yeah, well, anyway, you might be able to get on Amazon now that.
- 36:18Sounds good though it sounds right on my.
- 36:19Street really amazing. I was very surprised.
- 36:23In a violent nature is another good one.
- 36:25Bit slow. I liked it, yeah, but I agree.
- 36:27But good. And there's another one called
- 36:29Beaten to Death which is fucking sick.
- 36:31I mean, that sounds fucking awesome.
- 36:33Yeah, it's pretty sick. The guy gets his eyes put out
- 36:36about 20 minutes into the film and navigates the whole film
- 36:39with all these horrible wounds. Sounds perfect for me.
- 36:44Have you got a shadow membership then I imagine.
- 36:46OK have you? How do you feel about foreign
- 36:48language horror? Yeah, I don't mind it.
- 36:50Have you watched the Sadness? On I have not, no.
- 36:54It's maybe one of the most violent.
- 36:57It's a series. Isn't it?
- 36:58No, it's just a, it's a Taiwanese movie and it's like
- 37:02quote UN quote zombie. Like I'm not actually a zombie
- 37:04guy. I don't really like a zombie
- 37:05movie but like. It's too much of it isn't.
- 37:08Yeah, but it's like, I like it when I do it right, like trained
- 37:11Busan and stuff like that. But this is Taiwanese zombie.
- 37:15But it's basically COVID, but it's like a virus that makes you
- 37:19insanely violent. And they call it kind of like 28
- 37:22days later ish. Yeah.
- 37:24And they call it the sadness. And it is absolutely
- 37:27horrifically violent. I must.
- 37:29Check it, Yeah, but that's on the on the list.
- 37:31It's really great, I'd love to know your thoughts on it.
- 37:34There were some other really good ones I saw where it's a
- 37:36strange darling. It's weird.
- 37:39It's a very strange film about this prostitute Darling.
- 37:42It's about a prostitute and this guy who's a policeman.
- 37:45And it, it starts off with you thinking that this guy, because
- 37:48he's a serial killer abroad, it's the guy.
- 37:51Everything points to him and it turns out it's the woman and
- 37:54she's so fucking weird. Really.
- 37:57Yeah, and she gets away from him, but she's really hurt him,
- 38:00so he's come to kill her and then the other police is is
- 38:03fucked up. Violent, violent.
- 38:05Fucked up. Yeah, that's my shit.
- 38:07Are you looking forward to Nosferati?
- 38:09I'm not looking forward to going to see it on Christmas Day when
- 38:11it's released. I'm going on day one as well.
- 38:13I know my friend is. I was like, fucking hell, your
- 38:15mum's gonna love you. I'm doing, I think I'll be in
- 38:17Nashville. I've got I've got a suitable,
- 38:20I've got a suitable goth to come and watch it with.
- 38:22Me, it's a very strange time to release it when they release
- 38:24Terrify Free. I get it before Halloween, but
- 38:27Terrify Free is a Christmas movie.
- 38:29It's just Christmas, yes? That's weird, they should have
- 38:32swapped. Really.
- 38:33Yeah. Just point to each other
- 38:34Christmas. That's kind of cool though, that
- 38:36Robert Eggers thing of where he's just like, I don't care,
- 38:39I'm going. To it looks good.
- 38:40It looks really good, but it looks it looks like it's got a
- 38:43lot of elements of the movies in it because again, it's just a
- 38:46Dracula story but set somewhere else.
- 38:48So it looks like it's got the Klaus Kinski original, maybe
- 38:52even a bit of shadow of the vampire, which was the the thing
- 38:55about the making of which also had what's his face?
- 38:59Green Goblin going William Defoe William.
- 39:01Defoe Yeah. But it also looks a lot like
- 39:04Coppola's track here, a little bit like Frankenstein.
- 39:07Yeah. And.
- 39:08Checking all the boxes for me. Sleepy Hollow.
- 39:10Love Sleepy Hollow. It's got that kind of vibe to
- 39:12it. But yeah, looking forward to it.
- 39:13I'm. Looking forward, I'm gonna go
- 39:14watch it. I think it's super Christmas
- 39:16Day. Substance.
- 39:17Did you see that? Everyone's been telling me to
- 39:19see it and I haven't seen it yet.
- 39:21Yeah, that's fucked up. Is it as good as everyone says?
- 39:23It's amazing. Yeah.
- 39:24It's real body hot. I thought it was David
- 39:26Cronenberg. You.
- 39:27Know, I saw, I saw a spoiler, I saw when she's all fucking
- 39:31messed up and I was like, oh, that's so annoying.
- 39:32My fault for not going when it came out.
- 39:34Yeah, I'm stoked on that. You've done some mad
- 39:36collaborations in your time. You've got some mad
- 39:38collaborations coming up. I want to know what's going on
- 39:42with the Ed Sheeran one. The Ed Sheeran one is done and
- 39:45dusted. We did it like two years ago.
- 39:49It was. It was weird because we would
- 39:51plan to do it for about a year and a half.
- 39:53That come about. I don't know.
- 39:56I think our managers got in touch with each other somehow.
- 39:59His manager Stuart is used to listen to Cole Chamber when he
- 40:05was growing up. Ed used to listen.
- 40:07He said that when he did, he did like a vampire thing.
- 40:11I come in with a bad something. What a vampire band.
- 40:16No no, he did a single where he played a vampire.
- 40:18I don't know anything about him. And I think one that he got
- 40:21asked questions somewhere where it was like, you know, you in
- 40:25heavy metal, I don't know why. And he said, yeah, I was really
- 40:28in the Slipknot and Cradle Of Filth.
- 40:30And then this story came out how he was going to come and do his
- 40:34apprenticeship, you know, like from school thing, you know, at
- 40:37our studio. But then we decided not to do
- 40:39it. And the truth of it was that we
- 40:41weren't recording an album there at all.
- 40:42We just rehearsed. But the guy kept telling
- 40:45everyone that we were to get his studio some money.
- 40:48Apparently, whether he decided not to do it or it just the
- 40:53vacancy wasn't open, he went to work in at the local council,
- 40:58Ipswich Borough Council. Oh, he's local to you.
- 41:01Yeah, yeah. So he went to work for Ipswich
- 41:02Borough Council and had such shit time now evidently, that he
- 41:07decided, no, I'm going to pursue my music.
- 41:10Whereas I think if he come to work with us, it would have been
- 41:12the other way round. I'm going to kill my.
- 41:14You're responsible for his success.
- 41:16So apparently they, they, they talked and, you know, the, the,
- 41:20the chat came around, you know, we, we should do a club at
- 41:22Belarus. And he was like right up for it.
- 41:25So when he was eventually free and we were free, he just comes
- 41:29to the studio by himself. He didn't even ask like, are you
- 41:34going to be there with your mum's and everything going Oh,
- 41:37head. So we were very respectful.
- 41:39And that was just me, the producer and him in our little
- 41:42countryside studio probably 15 miles away as a crow flies from
- 41:46where he lives turns up in his wife's secret mini.
- 41:49You know, the one he can get out of the house on his own cradle,
- 41:53hoodie, guitar on his back. That was it.
- 41:56And he had a cradle hoodie on. Yeah, what a legend.
- 41:58We spent the afternoon recording.
- 42:00He's telling us loads of funny stories, you know, like really
- 42:03lads, really cool really. And then we finished.
- 42:07He, you know, he said we were like, do you want to go for a
- 42:10pint? He said, why, I'm a bit peckish.
- 42:11So we went to the local pub, at which point everybody in the
- 42:15pub, and it's like a very, very rustic old country pub.
- 42:20Suddenly everybody, all these old dears and that all knew his
- 42:23mum. And they were all flocking over.
- 42:25Oh, must say hello to him. And he'd be like, no idea who
- 42:29that is, That's so funny. But it was really cool.
- 42:31The song's great, it just is. We didn't want to release it
- 42:35back then because we were busy with other things.
- 42:38Then he couldn't release it because he was doing a bunch of
- 42:40stuff, so it's just going to come out when it does.
- 42:42We didn't want to put it on the album because we just didn't
- 42:44want. To So it's a Is it a Cradle song
- 42:46featuring Ed Sheeran, or is it an Ed Sheeran song featuring
- 42:49that? No.
- 42:50It's a brand new Cradle Of Filth song featuring Ed Sheeran, and a
- 42:55lot of it sounds like Ed Sheeran.
- 42:56He's playing acoustic tie, singing Ed Sheeran a lot.
- 42:59That sounds like us. It's a blast.
- 43:00Beat Scream. Oh my God.
- 43:02Ed really pushes himself in it as well, you know?
- 43:05He doesn't scream no. No, he does rock vocals, you
- 43:07know, he goes for a bit of. What's the lyrics about?
- 43:10Can you give me any juice there? It's called.
- 43:14I think, no, I can't. I can't talk about it because I
- 43:16get in trouble. You can't talk about the lyrics,
- 43:18you can't do anything. It's it's about affirmation.
- 43:21Affirmation. It's.
- 43:23Always horny? That's a bit about sort of self
- 43:25affirmation. Nice.
- 43:27It works. It's really good song.
- 43:29Only about a few handful of people.
- 43:30My mum hasn't even heard it. And then so.
- 43:32Anyway, that will come out as and when nice.
- 43:35And Can you imagine he's also, you know, like he's in he's
- 43:39probably chasing the the Taylor Swift sort of thing.
- 43:44You know, they're very. He's doing all right, isn't he?
- 43:47He's. Doing bad.
- 43:49He's doing all right in my head. The fever dream of just you and
- 43:53Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran's In the Cradle
- 43:55hoodie at a country pub surrounded by old women.
- 43:58He also shares the my love for fiberglass dinosaurs.
- 44:03What do you mean fiberglass? Dinosaurs.
- 44:04I just I've always like if I've because I collect weird stuff.
- 44:07It's like if I have a bit more land.
- 44:10Oh, the big outdoors ones, Yeah, yeah.
- 44:11Are you going to do it or you have done it?
- 44:13No, no, no, I've got plans to. I'm going to move into your
- 44:16house. There's plans for this lake with
- 44:18a giant octopus coming out of there.
- 44:20And then I found out that he's actually got a bunch.
- 44:22He's got like a walk through in his garden where he's just
- 44:25bought loads of fiberglass dinosaurs.
- 44:27What it's like sane, a thing to bond over and B, how did that
- 44:31even come up in conversation? I just don't, you know, I really
- 44:35like Ed Sheeran. Fiberglass dinosaurs.
- 44:37Yeah. I'm sure there was a place,
- 44:38though, because I'm from reading.
- 44:39I'm sure there was a place in the South when I was a kid and
- 44:42they had like, it was like a park and it was just all of
- 44:44those I remember. Going, oh, you know, thinking of
- 44:46Isle of White and Black Gang China.
- 44:48Maybe snacks? We did you.
- 44:49Ever get what? Yeah, it would have been that.
- 44:51I suck a fever dream 'cause I must have been like 3 or
- 44:53something. I just remember being like, it's
- 44:55amazing. Didn't quite stick as much for
- 44:57me as it did for you and Ed, but.
- 44:59That's awesome. I just like weird stuff.
- 45:01I'd like a gun full of weird shit.
- 45:03And what my guns full of weird shit anyway.
- 45:05What's the weirdest thing other than garlic and other than the
- 45:07John Wayne Gacy painting? I don't know.
- 45:10What would you save if there was a fire in in mansion?
- 45:14I'm assuming I'm just calling. Mansion.
- 45:17Filth, Maison. Filth is yeah.
- 45:19Oh. Fuck no, it's I, I don't know
- 45:21what I'd go for. Probably an African mark.
- 45:24I've got a a mannequin that's in my bedroom.
- 45:27Bedroom mannequin. Yeah, she's she's like a vampire
- 45:30goddess. Yes, for Cleopatra.
- 45:32God, I love you. And she looks a lot like my
- 45:36girlfriend, but my girlfriend doesn't is like she's she can go
- 45:40in your office gives me the willies.
- 45:42Oh really? Do you have to take her out?
- 45:44No, no, no, no. Yeah, you do with girlfriends
- 45:47every now and then. So keep them.
- 45:49Keep them on your side. I meant like the the vampire
- 45:52goddess, like you know, does she have to leave the room when you
- 45:55when she oversee things? She doesn't leave the room.
- 46:00She doesn't leave the room. That's fucking awesome.
- 46:02Is she dressed up like proper goth?
- 46:04She hasn't got a yeah, yeah, kind of yeah yeah.
- 46:06She hasn't got a huge amount of clothes on, no.
- 46:10Fucking so sick. Oh it's like looking into a
- 46:13mirror in my head. The the vision of you and Ed in
- 46:16this pub is quite a lot like the actual video that you did with
- 46:20Bringing Horizon, where you're just in full.
- 46:22You know what was cool about that?
- 46:24Because everybody always says, why the fuck are you doing?
- 46:27You know, you did something with what's that band Twisted?
- 46:31And it was like a sort of beast. When I say Beastie Boys track,
- 46:35it was like half rap, half male. Yeah, people would say, why
- 46:39aren't you doing it with something as well?
- 46:40Because I like the juxtaposition of like when somebody says,
- 46:44could you do this song and go, oh, hello, this will be weird
- 46:48and weird, strange marriage. And the thing that made it more
- 46:52appealing about the boom with the horizon thing was that my
- 46:55daughter, massive Ollie Seitz man like Hugh.
- 46:59So I took her up to to his place which was the drop dead.
- 47:05You. Know big big gaff and hung out
- 47:08with Ollie for a bit and then we went to shoot the video which
- 47:11wasn't it was kind of like can we come in and shoot here it
- 47:15wasn't like deserted it was a functioning local supermarket in
- 47:21in Sheffield and my daughter is actually in the video shopping
- 47:24for some cheese I think and yeah so she was all about that and
- 47:29then they asked me to do it on the stage at all points East
- 47:34where they headlined and yeah obviously she's she was in fact
- 47:38she's VIP whenever they play Ollie promised and she's kept to
- 47:42the word and. That's so cute.
- 47:44But, well, she's 25. It's not that cute you're
- 47:47thinking of a. Section.
- 47:48Yeah, in my head. In my head.
- 47:50She's 13. But it is.
- 47:51It is cool. He's he's one of those people.
- 47:53He transcends like age of fandom.
- 47:55Yeah, and I think the premise point that video is he just of
- 47:58which I agree on. He's like, they want me to do a
- 48:01lyric video and I hate lyric videos.
- 48:03And yeah, I like the lyrics, but I fucking hate lyric videos.
- 48:06Just a cheap excuse. Yeah, I want videos.
- 48:09I want to be in a video. I fucking can't stand lyric
- 48:11videos. No, it's just fucking.
- 48:13Never done one, never done. One, there was a point when
- 48:15music industry used to make money and then 2008 onward bank
- 48:20crashes and whatever onset of the digital age, etcetera,
- 48:24etcetera. Oh.
- 48:25You got some good. You got some good good before
- 48:28that happened though. Yeah, absolutely.
- 48:30Yeah, Yeah. But I just miss the, I miss the
- 48:33the record company sending you to, you know, New York now it's
- 48:37just all down on the phone, a supermarket.
- 48:40I miss the been able to record in a because they just shut
- 48:44down. Even if you've got the money to
- 48:46do it. Yeah, a lot of our great works,
- 48:49as people call them, were were done in studios where you went
- 48:53to live, you know. Yeah, like Park Gate, which was,
- 48:55it was like being on holiday. We all had our own chalets, you
- 48:58know, stayed up all night partying, blew things up, you
- 49:02know, also recorded an album. Yeah, kind of go in the way.
- 49:05Eventually. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 49:07Residential studios, and they're just a thing of the past.
- 49:09We get lucky. We recorded New Jersey with Will
- 49:12Putney and here's his residential and I did.
- 49:15I recently had Mono Jeopardy Mono Valley in Wales.
- 49:18Yeah, in fact we fucking hell, the weirdest thing is
- 49:21Nymphetamine and Damnation and the day we rented those out to
- 49:25write the album. So we'd spend 2 weeks twice
- 49:29there just near Watford, and it was when they were doing the
- 49:32place up. So still the studio was still
- 49:35workable, but some of the rooms were at the back, like 9
- 49:39bedrooms, 10 bedrooms. They were still doing them up.
- 49:42So they let us have it for a little bit cheap.
- 49:44We had a great time now. Yeah, same.
- 49:46That's why I brought it up, because I was like, I remember
- 49:48our. Party they did flood boy because
- 49:50they built like the. Flood No, no, it was it was
- 49:52after that, but then I recently had that shut down now, but it's
- 49:57air being it's on Airbnb Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 49:59So I know a few producers that are just like, I'm just gonna
- 50:01fucking bring a rig in Airbnb. Modern, modern.
- 50:04Well, that's the great thing. We were able to use that little
- 50:06studio. The weirdest thing about that,
- 50:09well, not really weird thing, but I was just randomly on a
- 50:12looking over, you know, like when you're on a plane and
- 50:14you're more interested in what anybody else is watching.
- 50:16And I just looked between two headrests and I was like, what
- 50:21the fuck? That's Mono Valley.
- 50:24This woman was watching the documentary on Oasis and
- 50:26apparently they they they did a bunch of stuff there.
- 50:29One last thing on the collaborations, and this is
- 50:31literally again purely for me and no one is going to care.
- 50:35Did you hope? So.
- 50:37Are you aware of the Vetamont T-shirt?
- 50:40Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we did.
- 50:41That an official collab. We did a collaboration with them
- 50:44and we're doing some weird collaborations, and that's
- 50:46thanks to Dez for Farah and Anastasia for for Farah.
- 50:52Dez is obviously Cole Chamber. Cole Chamber, Devil driver,
- 50:54Yeah. Yeah, and his wife, they managed
- 50:57us. They have done the last six
- 50:58years they're. Really.
- 50:58Amazing. Yeah, Yeah.
- 51:00He's like one of my best friends.
- 51:02Great. He's a very, very good working
- 51:05relationship, both of them just so good at coming up weird and
- 51:09wonderful things. And so this vitamin thing came
- 51:12along possibly in response to the Balenciaga thing, because
- 51:16they used our logo, allegedly used our logo and.
- 51:21Didn't give you any. Of nothing, nothing and. £100
- 51:24T-shirt. Came back and said no no, it's
- 51:27just a rudimentary logo that looks maybe looks a little like
- 51:31yours. Which is scum because they
- 51:32that's a £900 T-shirt. So Vettelman kind of went one
- 51:35step. I think they even released a
- 51:37statement where they kind of, you know, hinted at.
- 51:41Yeah, yeah. This is this is shit, but they
- 51:44were I missed because we were on tour in Australia, but they did
- 51:48a big thing in Paris. You know, they're doing another
- 51:50one. I'm not sure where it is but in
- 51:53January and they have asked me to walk the runway.
- 51:56Oh my God, you have to do that. Yeah, I know.
- 51:58That's like my favorite. Like this is again.
- 52:00No, I would hate it, but it would be.
- 52:02I'm not gonna turn it down, but. That's like my favorite clothing
- 52:05designer right now is what they're doing.
- 52:08Yeah, it's outrageously expensive, but I love it.
- 52:10I love the whole ethos. I love all of that stuff.
- 52:12You have to do that. Do it for me.
- 52:14No, no, again, I I want to do it, of course.
- 52:16Yeah, absolutely. Can.
- 52:17I guess that's a wonderful. I've just met experience.
- 52:20I've just met you. Can I have a guest list?
- 52:22There we go, I've got 2 questions on that.
- 52:24Does it have the back print? I don't know.
- 52:26Possibly not possibly. I don't know.
- 52:29That's probably another £1000 though putting that print on.
- 52:32Yeah, that's good for everyone. You want a percentage.
- 52:33They made a really cool dress. They're making a suit for me,
- 52:37actually, for the moment. Yeah.
- 52:39But they made a cool dress, and it was all out of old T-shirts.
- 52:42And they kind of, I think the theme was kind of reclamation.
- 52:45Yeah. And they did it in this weird
- 52:48old sort of dessert. It looked like a deserted mall
- 52:51or something because they had the models came down.
- 52:54Is it out of cradle shirts? The dresses, yeah, yeah, out of
- 52:57the region they made a one off piece, but they have done the
- 53:00collaboration with some other bits and pieces, which we did.
- 53:03We drop Dead as well, which is Holly's label.
- 53:05I've got one. I've got 1 upstairs.
- 53:06I'm that guy. I'm sorry.
- 53:08I'm a fucking sweater. I'm sorry.
- 53:10Can you teach me how to do the Danny Filth scream?
- 53:13I have to teach myself after I know it's a trade secret.
- 53:15Is it a trade secret? Is it a trade secret?
- 53:18Is it any or an outy? It's an outy.
- 53:20It's an outy. Yeah, yeah.
- 53:21I can't do anything you're. So far from the mic.
- 53:24It must be so loud. You're so far from the mic when
- 53:26you do it. I have some weird little things
- 53:28that that I do. That's one of them which I've
- 53:31noticed when I watch back on videos.
- 53:33I go what the fuck? And I suddenly realise why.
- 53:35It is about 10 attenuation with the ears.
- 53:38Now I've got tinnitus in one ear, probably because I have my
- 53:44highs fed into my ears. That way it keeps like the low
- 53:48end on stage without reverb, which means no feedback or or
- 53:52lessons of feedback. So getting a lot of the higher
- 53:55stuff straight in the ear. I was once, I thought it's 10th
- 54:00birthday actually remember that. We had a couple of, we had a gig
- 54:04cancelled and we had two days off and this was around San
- 54:07Francisco. So I flew home and did six
- 54:10flights in 52 hours and my hearing didn't come down.
- 54:14It was just still like that horrible, you know, like Jesus
- 54:19and I was spent a whole day like that and I was like, this is
- 54:21unbearable. So I went to a doctor and he ear
- 54:23doctor and he cut my eardrum and I've been an American doctor.
- 54:29I think he's more interested in the cash than the the
- 54:32repercussions of bang about I'm wearing.
- 54:34So basically I've got tinnitus, and so doing that is a kind of
- 54:40way to just get it the volume just about right, so it sits
- 54:43just without interfering. And yeah, it can be a bit loud.
- 54:47And yeah, I have weird things. I drink Ribena, there's no real
- 54:51reason for. That that's your warm up.
- 54:52Do you know an actual warm up or are you just drinking Ribena?
- 54:57Yeah, that's it. Sponsorship please.
- 54:59If you're if you're from America, which most of you are,
- 55:01Ribenia is a delightful drink which you mix with.
- 55:04I don't know what they would call it.
- 55:06Americans have squash. In Scotland they just call it
- 55:08juice diluting juice. In the South, it's squash, but I
- 55:13don't know if America how I've never seen.
- 55:15It's a little bit of syrup. Can't.
- 55:17Yeah, but that Kool Aid's like a powder, isn't it?
- 55:19Yeah. It's like a little bit of syrup
- 55:21and then you put water in it anyway.
- 55:22Ribena banging. My friend who was from America
- 55:25spent about 3 days drinking non diluted Ribena, OH.
- 55:28My God, I'll give you diabetes. Yeah.
- 55:31Exactly. I had no idea but you.
- 55:33Can't teach me how to do the scream, can you?
- 55:35Can you do a scream for me now? I haven't warmed up.
- 55:37Right, that will fuck you up. Imagine I fuck the show up,
- 55:39alright? No, I haven't really warmed up,
- 55:41but kind of kind of it's all we have to.
- 55:46I'm a drummer. I'm a drummer.
- 55:47Oh, yeah, yeah. Wish I yeah.
- 55:51I'm not gonna try again. Danny Fell thanks for coming on
- 55:53the podcast. Thank you very much.
- 55:54It's been a real pleasure. It's been fucking great.
- 55:56Let's get you back to the show.