Latest / Karl and Crew / Emotional Hoarding with Laurie Davies & Clutter Free with Kathi Lipp
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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
- 0:05S1: and crew.
- 0:06S2: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
- 0:11S2: impossible and live as you never imagined.
- 0:14S1: Start your morning with a laugh.
- 0:16S2: Cold spaghetti's. Great. Okay.
- 0:19S3: Okay, I disagree. I guess not. No, I guess certainly
- 0:22S3: it is not. No. Okay. Well, man, I'm going back.
- 0:26S2: To my bachelor days. I guess I thought cold spaghetti
- 0:29S2: was universally loved.
- 0:31S4: I've never been known for, like, high levels of coordination.
- 0:34S4: That's just. It feels like.
- 0:37S2: I've never been known for high levels of coordination.
- 0:42S1: Delivering the truth daily.
- 0:44S4: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
- 0:48S4: and you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
- 0:52S4: that would make it worth it.
- 0:53S5: Our own way. Never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:56S5: the life source, which is God.
- 0:59S6: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 1:02S6: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
- 1:06S6: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 1:10S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 1:15S1: and crew.
- 1:16S2: If you don't take an assessment, you don't know what
- 1:20S2: you got. It's just one of these tough truths in life, right, Ali?
- 1:24S4: Yes. Yeah. Super. I had to get some tests done
- 1:28S4: on her foot this week to see.
- 1:30S3: If she needed.
- 1:31S7: An assessment.
- 1:32S4: She needed some assessment on her foot. And praise God
- 1:35S4: it's not broken. Yeah, but that assessment revealed there was some.
- 1:40S2: Chairs.
- 1:41S4: Boogered up her ankle, as you like to say.
- 1:43S3: Boogered up.
- 1:43S2: Boogered it up, man. She avoided a cat and stepped
- 1:48S2: really hard and funky in a hallway. And the rest
- 1:51S2: is history.
- 1:52S7: Yeah, it's not good.
- 1:55S2: Better to bump the cat a little bit. They can
- 1:57S2: survive that thing. But the instinct says, I can't kick
- 2:02S2: the cat.
- 2:02S7: It's like swerving out of the way for a deer
- 2:05S7: in the road. They they actually say, don't swerve.
- 2:10S2: Oh yeah, for sure.
- 2:11S3: Because.
- 2:11S2: I've got experience with that.
- 2:13S7: Yeah. You cause way more damage swerving than if you just. Yeah.
- 2:17S7: Hit the deer, unfortunately.
- 2:19S2: But yeah, it's a, it's a real thing. We were
- 2:22S2: driving outside of Anchorage, Alaska, to Wasilla. We were in
- 2:27S2: my dad's old 220 D Mercedes. And my man, this
- 2:33S2: big old cow moose jumped out right in front of
- 2:36S2: us and whammo! We nailed that thing.
- 2:39S3: Oh, man. It's the worst.
- 2:41S2: He went right. She went hit one of the kind
- 2:44S2: of the left upright of the windshield. And the whole
- 2:48S2: body fell into the windshield, shattered. That thing boogered up
- 2:51S2: the grill, and that big old moose went right up
- 2:55S2: over the top of our car, landed on four feet,
- 2:58S2: shook it off and went running into the woods.
- 3:01S3: It's crazy.
- 3:02S7: Man.
- 3:03S2: Is that crazy?
- 3:04S7: It's a big moose, then.
- 3:05S3: Oh.
- 3:06S2: It was a behemoth, man. She was a big girl
- 3:10S2: and she lived to survive. Wow. It's just crazy. Yeah,
- 3:14S2: but you got to be careful with those critters. Taking
- 3:17S2: an assessment of anything is vitally important because you got
- 3:22S2: to know where you're at. What do you have? I'd
- 3:24S2: love to talk about running the Iditarod Trail race. Back
- 3:27S2: when I was 18 years old, across the state of Alaska.
- 3:31S2: And in preparation for that, I spent two years training
- 3:35S2: and I was actually running 210 dog teams 50 miles
- 3:41S2: a day, every day. Now things are different now in
- 3:44S2: the Iditarod. I was talking to Mitch Seavey, three time
- 3:46S2: winner of the Iditarod Trail race, and we were just
- 3:49S2: kind of ruminating on back in the good old days.
- 3:51S2: Now he's gone. He's completed 30 Iditarod trail races.
- 3:56S3: That's crazy. 30.
- 3:57S2: 30.
- 3:58S4: He's run it 30 times.
- 3:59S7: And how many have there been?
- 4:01S2: Oh, there's been a bunch.
- 4:02S3: But that's crazy.
- 4:04S2: Not too many more than that. No, he's run it
- 4:06S2: 30 times. And he was talking about how they train
- 4:11S2: now as opposed to back in 79 when I competed
- 4:14S2: in this thing. It's so different. But I learned something
- 4:19S2: really interesting before the Iditarod. So I had 20 dogs.
- 4:23S2: I was training, I took, I think 18 on what's
- 4:28S2: called the Cantwell 200 dog sled race. And it was
- 4:31S2: kind of a warm up race. Little did I know
- 4:34S2: I'd get into colder temperatures on the Cantwell 200 than
- 4:37S2: I would even raw temperature, not including wind, because it
- 4:40S2: was like not a breath of wind, but it was
- 4:42S2: 4050 maybe nudging by the time I got to McLaren
- 4:46S2: River Lodge, which was the halfway point, it's 100 miles in,
- 4:49S2: 100 miles out. By the time I got to the
- 4:51S2: McLaren River Lodge, It's down kind of in a little
- 4:54S2: bit of a valley. And guys, when it's cold out
- 4:57S2: and then you dip into a valley in Alaska. Oh, Nelly.
- 5:02S2: It was so stinking cold.
- 5:04S7: It's colder than cold in a valley of one of
- 5:07S7: the coldest places ever.
- 5:08S3: It's.
- 5:09S7: Yeah, it's really cold.
- 5:10S2: Yeah. And I, and I, and I learned something. When
- 5:13S2: I got to McLaren River Lodge, I was in second position.
- 5:16S2: Not a lot of teams in the race, but probably 30.
- 5:19S2: And my team was in second position. I had a
- 5:22S2: really good dog team and they were they were great
- 5:25S2: guys and gals, man, a tremendous team. So I turned around,
- 5:29S2: fed them up, took a little bit of a break,
- 5:31S2: probably stopped there for hours, turned the team around and
- 5:34S2: headed back for that next hundred miles. And that next
- 5:37S2: hundred miles proved some things. It proved that these 50
- 5:40S2: mile runs were disguising that some dogs had endurance while
- 5:47S2: others didn't, and I wound up having to load a
- 5:50S2: couple of different dogs onto my sled while I was
- 5:53S2: making that haul out of there. And another 100 miles.
- 5:56S2: When you're 100 miles in like that, I think it
- 5:58S2: was probably probably another 16, 17 hours of mushing my team.
- 6:05S2: And this is where I saw the aurora borealis, like
- 6:08S2: I never have before in my life. And it was
- 6:12S2: it was wild because usually Aurora's there. They're like sheets
- 6:17S2: of waves of light moving in the skies. By the way,
- 6:21S2: if you see that and you can't see God, you're blind,
- 6:24S2: my friend. So we're we're mushing along on this trail
- 6:28S2: and I'm starting to see, uh oh, I got a
- 6:30S2: couple dogs on the neckline that I thought were really conditioned. Well,
- 6:35S2: but this longer run of 200 miles really revealed that, uh, one,
- 6:41S2: one young dog needed some more training for sure. And
- 6:46S2: a couple of dogs weren't even going to make it
- 6:48S2: into the Iditarod. So I came to the start of
- 6:50S2: the Iditarod with 13 dogs and the. And the beauty
- 6:54S2: of the Cantwell 200 is that it showed me who
- 6:58S2: was going to make the cut for the longer haul,
- 7:01S2: and who wasn't going to make the cut. And in
- 7:03S2: one case, the young dog that his name's pirate, he.
- 7:08S2: I was able to have a talk with him after
- 7:11S2: that race, and I said, buddy, you've got the physical ability,
- 7:14S2: but I'm going to need you to lean into our
- 7:16S2: next couple months of training before this race, before we go.
- 7:20S2: And I don't speak I'm not fluent in husky, but
- 7:25S2: I'm pretty close. And he got it, and he leaned
- 7:29S2: in to training for the next couple of months, and
- 7:32S2: he made it with me all the way to Nome.
- 7:35S2: But I knew that I would need to position him
- 7:37S2: in the team for the last couple of months before
- 7:39S2: the Iditarod kicked off in a place where a little
- 7:42S2: more weight was on him. So I put him in wheel,
- 7:45S2: made him pull a little bit harder just to get
- 7:48S2: them geared up. And we had a we had a
- 7:50S2: great conversation. Me and Pirate Man, he was a beautiful dog,
- 7:54S2: just a beautiful dog. And he had the most beautiful
- 7:57S2: gait when he ran. You know, some dogs gaits, by
- 8:00S2: the way, are good for 50 miles. But when you
- 8:04S2: get to 100, 200, 300, 400, 800 miles, that gait,
- 8:09S2: just the style of their running, actually makes it tougher
- 8:13S2: for them to make it the long haul. So smooth
- 8:17S2: gait on this guy got him in wheel, where he
- 8:20S2: carried a bit more of the load. And by the
- 8:22S2: time we got to know him, Alaska, he was in
- 8:26S2: swing or in lead a couple of times. That's how
- 8:29S2: much his conditioning changed in just eight weeks before the Iditarod.
- 8:32S2: But the point is, I would have never known who
- 8:36S2: to leave home and who to bolster in training. I
- 8:40S2: pirate without that race. We're talking this whole week about
- 8:46S2: redeeming time. You you don't know what you don't know,
- 8:52S2: do you?
- 8:53S4: No. I mean, and I think that we all have
- 8:57S4: some blind spots.
- 8:59S2: Oh, for sure.
- 9:00S4: You know, you can you can think that you have
- 9:03S4: a good idea of how you spend your time or,
- 9:06S4: or what you're doing in your free time. And, and
- 9:09S4: you obviously you're aware of what you're doing, but in
- 9:12S4: terms of time, I think it's easy to under or
- 9:15S4: overestimate both directions.
- 9:17S2: It is, it is. And you don't know what you
- 9:20S2: don't know. So we've been offering up a link this week. And,
- 9:24S2: you know, it just dawned on me, some of you
- 9:26S2: might look at this and go seven days tracking every
- 9:29S2: half hour of my of my week, seven days. Here's
- 9:36S2: what I really believe. If you tackle this for two days,
- 9:40S2: you're going to find some black holes. You just give
- 9:43S2: it two days. So some of you are in this thing.
- 9:47S2: We've had so many of these links go out. Some
- 9:50S2: of you are in it to win it, and you're
- 9:51S2: doing a seven day assessment, and you're joining me and
- 9:53S2: I'm tracking every half an hour for seven days. I
- 9:57S2: do this from time to time, and I do it
- 10:00S2: by nature. The fact that my day planner is broken
- 10:03S2: into half hour segments for every waking hour. But when
- 10:06S2: you track time, make appointments and begin to see where
- 10:12S2: your time is going. Huge revelation occurs. You begin to see, wow,
- 10:17S2: this is redeemed. Well, this is where I'm not redeeming it. Well,
- 10:22S2: and I want to put a disclaimer here. Again, this
- 10:24S2: is not about workaholism. This is not about filling every
- 10:29S2: moment of your day to be busy. It's about redeeming
- 10:32S2: time because the days are evil. It's about Romans 1311.
- 10:38S2: You know the time Paul said, so wake up because
- 10:42S2: the hour has come, he says. So there's two different
- 10:46S2: uses of two different uses of the word time there.
- 10:49S2: One is a season of opportunity and the hour means hurrah!
- 10:54S2: That's the original word hurrah. And it means the hour
- 10:59S2: is now. The time is now. So I want to
- 11:01S2: encourage you to take this challenge. Even if you dip
- 11:05S2: your toe in for a couple of days, it will
- 11:07S2: serve you really well. Now, it's not for the faint
- 11:11S2: of heart, because you got to log every half an
- 11:13S2: hour and what you're doing with it, right?
- 11:15S4: Yeah. But if you want to jump in on this,
- 11:17S4: just text time to 805, five, five, 78, 98. Like
- 11:22S4: Carl said, even if you just do a couple of days,
- 11:25S4: try to do some of the weekdays and some of
- 11:28S4: the weekend, I think both of those are helpful. So
- 11:31S4: maybe you do one weekday, one weekend day, just text
- 11:34S4: time to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 11:37S2: In these black holes, I would say for 80% of
- 11:41S2: you listening right now, I would say the black holes
- 11:45S2: are going to be sometime generally after 5 p.m. and
- 11:50S2: it's that 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. or for some
- 11:54S2: of you, 11 p.m. for some of you, 12:00 middle
- 11:58S2: of the night, that can be a real black hole,
- 12:01S2: because we have these hours after a hard day of work,
- 12:05S2: or watching kids or shuttling kids as Ali's in this season,
- 12:09S2: shuttling kids all around the planet for different sporting events
- 12:14S2: that you find yourself with this time. And sometimes you
- 12:17S2: need a break. And by the way, I'm all for that.
- 12:20S2: There's nothing wrong with taking in a TV show or something,
- 12:24S2: but you'll know, because the Spirit of God who indwells
- 12:27S2: you will be revealing to you. Uh oh, something's getting
- 12:31S2: sucked up here. I'm getting susceptible to getting my turkey
- 12:35S2: in a squisher in some area of my life that
- 12:37S2: I don't want to be in, and it's just a
- 12:40S2: beautiful thing. So if you haven't yet, now is the time.
- 12:44S2: Notice how I said that?
- 12:45S4: Yep. Text time to 805 557898. Just that one word
- 12:51S4: time 805 557898.
- 12:55S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
- 12:59S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 13:01S2: All right. We're not going to delay any longer. Ali
- 13:04S2: has stepped to the mic of this. I'm making it
- 13:06S2: way too dramatic. We're talking about black holes, and we
- 13:10S2: thought we would lead the way. What are those black
- 13:14S2: holes of time wasting that God wants to redeem? Ali,
- 13:20S2: what's your story?
- 13:20S4: Yeah, for me, for sure. It has to do with
- 13:22S4: the phone. I mean, that's an that's an easy one.
- 13:24S4: The the phone is just the thing that's so easy
- 13:27S4: to grab when you have a couple of extra minutes
- 13:30S4: when you're running from one place to the next. And
- 13:33S4: so there's a couple of things on my phone. I don't,
- 13:36S4: I don't have any games installed. There's a lot of
- 13:38S4: things that I'm not at all tempted to do on
- 13:40S4: my phone because I don't find interesting, but I like
- 13:43S4: reading articles, I like going on social media. And one
- 13:46S4: of the challenges, particularly with social media, is that I
- 13:50S4: actually have things that I have to do on social media,
- 13:53S4: so I manage the Carling crew social media accounts primarily.
- 13:57S4: I have my own account, which ironically is the one
- 14:00S4: that I actually do the least with. And then I
- 14:03S4: have my I had a podcast for a while, so
- 14:05S4: I had that social media account and then I managed
- 14:08S4: my daughter's social media. She's a high school basketball player.
- 14:12S4: She's a college prospect. So she's in the recruiting process.
- 14:16S4: So there's lots of things that you have to do
- 14:18S4: to kind of.
- 14:19S2: You got opportunities.
- 14:21S4: I have opportunities, but I also have, um, so there's
- 14:24S4: the good opportunities. Okay. I've got, you know, I had
- 14:26S4: some posts up this week for Karl and crew. I
- 14:28S4: had stuff up this week for my daughter, but then
- 14:30S4: it turns into, let me see what's going on over
- 14:33S4: here in this corner of the girls basketball recruiting world.
- 14:36S4: You know, you're normal. So I'm just I'm looking at
- 14:40S4: rankings and I'm looking at other people's social media pages
- 14:44S4: to see what they're posting. And then it just becomes
- 14:47S4: an absolute rabbit hole. And time just passes quickly as
- 14:51S4: you're just kind of do people say doom scrolling, which
- 14:54S4: I don't love that word because it sounds so dark,
- 14:57S4: but it's just kind of that endless scroll where you
- 14:59S4: keep saying, I'm gonna get off, oh, I probably should
- 15:02S4: get off. And then you just, it's just one more
- 15:04S4: little click or one more couple minutes. And so there
- 15:09S4: was a time when I had asked for kind of
- 15:12S4: some accountability with this, with a mentor in my life.
- 15:15S4: So she had me sending her per my request. I said,
- 15:19S4: I want you to do this for me. I would
- 15:20S4: screenshot my screen time with the different categories of what
- 15:23S4: I was doing on my phone, and I would send
- 15:25S4: it to her at the end.
- 15:25S3: Of the week.
- 15:26S4: It was awesome.
- 15:27S2: By the way. Very vulnerable.
- 15:29S4: So much it was. And then after a time I
- 15:33S4: felt like I was not getting victories. And so here's
- 15:37S4: the thing. You you don't want to keep like acknowledging
- 15:41S4: your failures. So then you can like back away from
- 15:44S4: the accountability, which I totally did.
- 15:46S2: Ali what's funny? Quick parenthetical thought that is so picking
- 15:51S2: real people love to be accountable as long as they're winning,
- 15:55S2: but when they start losing, all of a sudden, whoop,
- 15:57S2: phone calls dry up.
- 15:58S4: You lose a couple weeks in a row and then
- 16:00S4: you have to send screenshots of, of, of screen time.
- 16:03S4: That's like way high. And I'm not even going to
- 16:05S4: put a number on you, but did you kind of go, oh,
- 16:10S4: maybe I can manage this by myself again. And managing
- 16:13S4: it by myself is not working.
- 16:16S2: This is so honest.
- 16:18S4: So my, here's my new plan that that I've asked,
- 16:21S4: I've enlisted the help of my husband, who does not
- 16:24S4: have the same kind of struggle with the the draw
- 16:27S4: to the phone. So I said, I want you to
- 16:29S4: I'm going to set a time that I think is
- 16:30S4: a reasonable amount of time to do the things that
- 16:33S4: I need to do, and then it's going to cut
- 16:35S4: off and have a screen time passcode. I said, you're
- 16:38S4: going to pick the passcode. And he said, I don't
- 16:41S4: remember passcodes well, so I'm going to write it down
- 16:43S4: on a card. He's going to write it down on
- 16:45S4: a card rather, and he's going to lock it up
- 16:47S4: in the safe so that it's if I needed absolutely
- 16:50S4: needed to go get it, like I had to post
- 16:53S4: something in the time I can, but it's going to
- 16:56S4: require so much effort and so much sense of like,
- 16:59S4: I'm blowing past all the barriers. If I just, I.
- 17:03S2: I'm seeing you right now. Left 12 right 42.
- 17:07S3: Left.
- 17:07S2: Seven click. I went too fast. Try it again.
- 17:10S4: So I'm, I'm making it so that breaking the, the
- 17:14S4: parameters that I'm setting up kind of busting through the fence,
- 17:17S4: so to speak, will require so much effort that I'm
- 17:20S4: hoping that it will be enough of a deterrent to
- 17:22S4: kind of bring my screen time numbers back to what
- 17:25S4: I would like them to be.
- 17:27S2: That is powerful sharing. That is powerful sharing. If you
- 17:31S2: got a question for Ali about what she's doing? Give
- 17:34S2: us a call 805 557898. No, really?
- 17:38S3: Okay.
- 17:38S2: I mean, there's a lot of people struggling with this.
- 17:40S2: You got a question for Ali? Give her a call.
- 17:43S2: 805 557898. Might be the mechanics of her new kind
- 17:49S2: of approach to this thing with Henry. And locked away
- 17:53S2: codes and safes and 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 18:00S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
- 18:03S6: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
- 18:06S6: to stay in your past. And I want you to
- 18:08S6: know and believe that today.
- 18:10S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
- 18:12S2: All right. We're going to open up phone lines to
- 18:13S2: let you ask the queen of electronic discipline. Wow, this.
- 18:17S3: Is.
- 18:18S4: So ironic.
- 18:18S2: 805 5578, 98. She has arrived and she's got answers.
- 18:24S4: So when I share that the thing that's the black
- 18:26S4: hole of time for me is my.
- 18:28S3: We.
- 18:28S2: Ask people to call in for questions. So no, this
- 18:32S2: is this is important guys. This is really important. James. Uh,
- 18:38S2: what what's the name of the city you're in, bro?
- 18:41S8: Uh. I'm in. I'm in Weeki Wachee.
- 18:44S2: Oh that's right. I've heard of that before. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:48S8: What are you watching? Springs.
- 18:49S2: Yeah. Right on. Okay. What's your question for the expert
- 18:52S2: on all things electronic time management?
- 18:55S8: The queen expert on that. Okay. Great. Anyway, first of all,
- 18:59S8: thank you all for everything that you do for the
- 19:02S8: Lord Christ Jesus. And especially, um. Uh, Ali, I'm telling
- 19:06S8: you what. I was wanting to always say this to you.
- 19:08S8: You're so articulate and, uh, and your rhetoric and explaining things.
- 19:13S8: I just love that. It really helps.
- 19:15S2: Uh. Looky there.
- 19:17S8: Yeah.
- 19:18S4: Thank you, I appreciate that.
- 19:19S8: Yeah. So anyway, um, I have been thinking about just
- 19:23S8: turning off all the electronics on one day a week.
- 19:26S8: So how would I go about implementing that? Do you
- 19:29S8: have any suggestions?
- 19:30S4: Oh, that's a good question. Which electronic do you feel
- 19:32S4: like is the thing that is most, uh, I guess
- 19:35S4: tempting to, to waste time on.
- 19:38S8: Texting on the phone.
- 19:40S4: Texting. Okay, then here's my recommendation. James. This comes from
- 19:44S4: a place of battling the same thing. I think you're
- 19:47S4: not going to be able to get away from texting altogether.
- 19:51S4: So I don't think you can go unless you're just
- 19:52S4: going to go. No contact. So I think what your
- 19:55S4: objective is, is to consolidate it into a set time.
- 20:00S4: So if you're tracking your time, maybe you decide that
- 20:02S4: at 530, I'm going to spend a half hour going
- 20:06S4: through and responding to any text messages and then texting
- 20:11S4: anyone that I needed text. As long as it's not
- 20:13S4: anything urgent and communicating with those who are close to you. Hey,
- 20:15S4: I'm going to try to only be texting during this time,
- 20:19S4: recognizing that most matters aren't urgent to where they need
- 20:23S4: an immediate response. So having a 24 hour window where Okay,
- 20:28S4: I'll respond to that other text tomorrow. So that would
- 20:31S4: be my recommendation is to have set a time, maybe
- 20:35S4: a 30 minute window where you handle all of it
- 20:37S4: and then you put it away.
- 20:39S2: Yeah, I'm going to add to that because we do
- 20:41S2: that as well. James. And, uh, take it from myself
- 20:44S2: and my bride on this one. Don't let techs train you.
- 20:49S2: You train techs. And I know techs are people, but
- 20:52S2: oftentimes if you get into the rut of an immediate response, boy,
- 20:56S2: you start training a style of relating that isn't sustainable
- 21:00S2: and probably not healthy. But James, you're rocking with Jesus.
- 21:04S2: How long you been following Jesus, my man?
- 21:07S8: Oh, let's see, since 1984.
- 21:12S2: Really? That's me as well. My man. Way to go.
- 21:15S8: Yeah. And in Missouri.
- 21:18S2: Way to go! Way to go, James. Keep it up.
- 21:20S2: Keep walking with Jesus, my man. And thanks for being
- 21:22S2: a listener here. Good stuff. All the way around, guys.
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- 22:30S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
- 22:33S1: This is Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 22:37S2: Well, it's usually one thing, isn't it, Allie?
- 22:39S4: It's usually that one thing that when you start to
- 22:42S4: think about why am I stuck? Why am I not
- 22:45S4: living the life that I want to live? Usually there's
- 22:48S4: one big thing that comes to mind first that's holding
- 22:52S4: you back, right?
- 22:53S2: Yeah. But but the beauty of it is if we can,
- 22:56S2: and I've seen this so many times, you want some
- 22:58S2: hope today? Boom crew, if you can get victory over
- 23:01S2: that one thing. I kid you not. It is a
- 23:04S2: domino effect. It's a flywheel effect. It's one victory gives
- 23:08S2: birth to another. And we got someone who has seen
- 23:12S2: a victory birthed in her life. Kathy, how are you
- 23:15S2: doing this morning?
- 23:16S10: Oh, I'm just amazing.
- 23:17S2: So clutter was eating your lunch and maybe everyone in
- 23:21S2: the home.
- 23:22S10: Oh, absolutely. Eating my lunch, taking my lunch money, doing
- 23:25S10: all the things. Absolutely. My dad was a hoarder and
- 23:29S10: I've never been a hoarder. But I have definitely been
- 23:32S10: in that space where, like, you just can't make the
- 23:35S10: next decision because there's so much stuff in your house.
- 23:38S10: And so I, that was my one. Well, I've had
- 23:42S10: many things, but that was one of my one things.
- 23:45S3: But it's a big.
- 23:46S2: One, wasn't.
- 23:46S3: It?
- 23:47S10: It's a huge thing. And, you know, it's so interesting
- 23:49S10: because if you look at the New Testament, Jesus talks
- 23:53S10: about money and possessions more than anything else. This is
- 23:56S10: no surprise that this was going to be a problem
- 23:59S10: for many of us in our lives, and I was
- 24:02S10: one of them.
- 24:03S4: Cathy Lipp, our guest right now, she's an author, speaker, blogger.
- 24:06S4: She hosts a podcast called the Clutter Free Academy. Now
- 24:11S4: let's talk about this. I remember a couple years ago
- 24:13S4: here on our morning show, we started talking about this issue.
- 24:17S4: And very quickly, Carl, I'm sure you remember this, the number.
- 24:20S3: Of.
- 24:21S4: Responses that we got from people who said clutter or
- 24:26S4: hoarding or stuff. It was overwhelming the amount of people
- 24:31S4: for whom this was such a big issue. And so
- 24:34S4: many of them had so much shame associated with it.
- 24:38S4: The feeling of, I don't want people to come into
- 24:40S4: my house. I'm not able to fully be active in
- 24:43S4: ministry the way I'd like to. The effects of clutter,
- 24:46S4: even if it doesn't get to the. The term hoarding.
- 24:50S4: It keeps us from living our best life. Did you
- 24:53S4: feel that?
- 24:54S10: Oh, Ali, I was the person who. If you wanted
- 24:57S10: to come over for coffee. We were drinking that on
- 24:59S10: the front porch because there was no way you were
- 25:02S10: coming into my house. And here's the thing. Like the
- 25:05S10: people who struggle with clutter are the kindest, most generous
- 25:10S10: people I have ever met in my entire life. But
- 25:12S10: you're absolutely right. There's a barrier. And we're struggling against
- 25:17S10: marketing messages that say, if you want to live life,
- 25:20S10: you need this thing and that thing and all these things.
- 25:23S10: But then also your house should look like you possess
- 25:26S10: none of those things.
- 25:28S3: And it is a battle.
- 25:31S10: It is.
- 25:32S3: A battle and hide.
- 25:33S2: It all. Yeah.
- 25:34S10: Exactly. And I, I don't know about you guys. I
- 25:36S10: do not have that much storage in my house. And
- 25:39S10: so I had to really reconcile not just with the
- 25:42S10: getting rid of stuff, but keeping stuff from coming in
- 25:45S10: in the first place. And it's a battle.
- 25:48S2: I got to ask you something here. You mentioned something.
- 25:51S2: Why is it that the sweetest, kindest, I mean, most
- 25:56S2: gentle people on the planet have sometimes the biggest problems
- 26:00S2: with clutter. Is there something going on there? What's going on?
- 26:03S10: I think one, we are people pleasers. We want to
- 26:06S10: make sure that everybody is taken care of. We want
- 26:08S10: to do all the things. And so and also, I'm
- 26:11S10: just going to say it's going to sound weird, but
- 26:14S10: I think it's very hard for us to say no.
- 26:17S10: And that is including with marketing messages. It's including saying
- 26:22S10: no to our kids. It's including saying no to our
- 26:24S10: parents who say, you want my 24 settings of China, right?
- 26:29S10: And we have a hard time saying no, even in
- 26:33S10: our own best interest. And it's something that we have
- 26:35S10: to work at and something we have to get better at.
- 26:38S4: So, Kathy, what did it look like? One for you
- 26:40S4: to first make the recognition that, okay, this is something
- 26:45S4: that is a problem for me, and I need to
- 26:48S4: start working toward victory because it's easy for this to
- 26:50S4: be a low level, kind of low underlying thing for
- 26:53S4: decades and never be addressed. But you must have reached
- 26:56S4: a point where you went, enough is enough. I got
- 26:59S4: to do something about this.
- 27:00S10: I think it was several things happening at the same time.
- 27:03S10: I think it was one, the recognition of I am
- 27:07S10: limiting my life because I'm not inviting people over to
- 27:10S10: my house, to the amount of time I spend stuck
- 27:16S10: not being able to get rid of things, not being
- 27:18S10: able to make decisions and feeling overwhelmed all the time
- 27:22S10: and not wanting to pass that on to my kids.
- 27:25S10: And then also recognizing the amount of money that was
- 27:29S10: going into not just buying this stuff, but organizing it,
- 27:33S10: the containers, the all the stuff and all of those
- 27:37S10: things took me off of God's purpose. And so, you know,
- 27:41S10: to not being able to have a friend over for
- 27:43S10: a cup of coffee, to not be able to give
- 27:46S10: money to the organization, I wanted to all of that
- 27:49S10: hit at the same time, and I knew I had
- 27:51S10: to make a difference in my life.
- 27:53S2: Cathy Lipp is our guest right now, and we're going
- 27:54S2: to have a keyword for you and some resources that
- 27:57S2: are going to help you because we give hope, help,
- 27:59S2: and healing around here. Cathy, there has to be a
- 28:03S2: time when you look at yourself and go, okay, this
- 28:07S2: clutter thing, I'm missing the mark. I'm going to call
- 28:09S2: it what it is. It's sin. I'm missing the mark.
- 28:12S2: That's tough because We've got to get through that threshold
- 28:17S2: of going, this is not just clutter. This is something
- 28:20S2: going on inside of me. And what is that thing
- 28:23S2: inside of you? You've you've hinted at it, but for
- 28:25S2: you specifically, what was it?
- 28:27S10: It was fear. Guilt and shame. Fear. I'm not going
- 28:30S10: to have enough guilt. I've spent so much money on it.
- 28:33S10: I need to keep it for the rest of my
- 28:35S10: life and shame somebody else gave this to me. And
- 28:38S10: if I give it away, it means that that person
- 28:41S10: is no longer important to me. And when I recognize that,
- 28:46S10: and I admitted it to somebody else out loud, because
- 28:50S10: I think this it is the most shame inducing thing.
- 28:54S10: You know, I've also struggled with my weight my whole life.
- 28:56S10: I've lost £100 in my life. But I would say
- 29:00S10: that this felt more shameful than that. And so to
- 29:03S10: finally come to the realization, I need to talk about
- 29:07S10: this with somebody, whether that's a counselor or a trusted
- 29:09S10: friend and say, I need to get, you know, this fear,
- 29:13S10: guilt and shame is eating me up and I want
- 29:16S10: to live a different life. And you can. You absolutely can.
- 29:19S10: I've seen it happen hundreds, if not thousands of times.
- 29:22S10: The recovery from this.
- 29:23S3: So, Cathy.
- 29:24S4: What does the recovery from something like this look like? Because,
- 29:28S4: you know, you see like the Pinterest worthy homes where
- 29:31S4: everything's white, all the cabinets are white, all the furniture
- 29:33S4: is white. No pets or children in sight. But what
- 29:37S4: is what are you aiming for when you say clutter
- 29:40S4: free academy or clutter free home? And this is now
- 29:43S4: your thing. What's the goal?
- 29:45S10: The goal is to walk into a space and feel
- 29:50S10: like you belong there. To feel like, you know. Yeah,
- 29:53S10: I don't want to live in somebody else's perfect house.
- 29:57S10: And by the way, I'm always going to have clutter
- 29:59S10: because I live a big life. I, you know, mail
- 30:02S10: comes in, groceries come in. I'm working on a craft project.
- 30:06S10: Like there's always going to be some clutter, but clutter
- 30:10S10: is life. It's the, It's the excess that. That's where
- 30:15S10: it starts to weigh us down. And so I want
- 30:18S10: to have a home where if you walk in, you
- 30:22S10: know that there is life going on there, but you
- 30:24S10: also don't feel overwhelmed by that life.
- 30:29S2: So is this a bite at a time rather than
- 30:33S2: this whole big old elephant? One room, one closet, one drawer.
- 30:38S2: What is it?
- 30:38S10: Yeah. The most depressing sentence in the English language is
- 30:42S10: I'm going to declutter my house today.
- 30:44S3: I mean, oh, gross, I.
- 30:46S10: Know, thank.
- 30:47S3: You.
- 30:49S10: But if I say I'm going to do 15 minutes
- 30:51S10: on this junk drawer or I'm going to do 15
- 30:54S10: minutes just like pulling my living room back together and
- 30:57S10: people think, oh, Kathy, you have not seen my house,
- 30:59S10: 15 minutes isn't going to do it. 15 minutes is
- 31:02S10: more powerful than you think. So set a timer, do
- 31:06S10: 15 minutes. Don't you know? Don't be distracted. That email
- 31:10S10: will wait. That social media post will wait. Just do
- 31:14S10: it for 15 minutes. And you know what? Even if
- 31:16S10: the first 15 minutes doesn't make a difference, by the
- 31:19S10: third 15 minutes, you're going to be seeing a real
- 31:21S10: difference and you're going to start to love your space more.
- 31:24S2: I got a crazy question. I was driving past a
- 31:27S2: big old storage unit yesterday. I mean, a behemoth. And
- 31:31S2: I've heard the stories on this that a lot of
- 31:33S2: people have these things. In fact, I love to ask
- 31:35S2: questions to people all the time. So I was in
- 31:37S2: a storage unit place one time. I said, what's the
- 31:39S2: most storage unit someone has here? You know, she said five.
- 31:42S2: And I said, they must, they must have a business. No,
- 31:44S2: she says, it's just household goods. And this person was
- 31:48S2: so bold with her, the manager of the storage place,
- 31:51S2: that they were filled with shame. Someone listening, not someone
- 31:55S2: thousands have a storage unit in. That sucker haunts them.
- 31:59S2: They're paying $149.99 a month for this.
- 32:02S3: Stupid.
- 32:03S2: Thing. And how do you how do you ever get there?
- 32:06S10: Yeah. So one And I know that you are not alone.
- 32:10S10: There are more storage units than there are. McDonald's.
- 32:14S3: Wow.
- 32:14S10: So yeah, if that gives you an idea about that.
- 32:18S2: You don't mean individual units. You mean places?
- 32:21S10: I mean places, uh, storefronts. Goodness, yeah. You know, I
- 32:26S10: live incredibly rurally. You know, there is not a McDonald's
- 32:29S10: for an hour and a half from where I live,
- 32:32S10: but I can think of seven storage unit places. So
- 32:35S10: you are not alone. This is this is the money
- 32:39S10: cycle that we live in the United States. We spend
- 32:42S10: the money and then we spend money to store the money.
- 32:45S10: And so I would say, if you can have it
- 32:50S10: a goal, if you have five storage units, get it
- 32:52S10: down to four. You can do that, I promise you.
- 32:55S10: And here's the thing, if you are not using it,
- 32:58S10: think about the time, the money, the energy that that
- 33:01S10: is draining from you to store those things. And I
- 33:04S10: like to think about it this way when I donate
- 33:07S10: something that is getting into the hands of somebody who
- 33:11S10: will actually use it, people are not. I mean, yes,
- 33:14S10: there are some people who are going to, you know,
- 33:16S10: the goodwill or other organizations and buying things they don't need.
- 33:20S10: But when I was a single mom, that's how I
- 33:23S10: furnished my home. That's how I clothed my kids. People
- 33:27S10: were giving their things that they were no longer using,
- 33:30S10: and it helped create a life for this single mom.
- 33:33S10: And so I want you to think about, could you
- 33:36S10: be putting that into use for somebody? Because the sad
- 33:39S10: thing about storage units is people are storing things and
- 33:43S10: those things are becoming obsolete, or they're becoming eaten by moths.
- 33:47S10: We we know about this biblically.
- 33:49S3: It's biblical, it's biblical.
- 33:51S10: And so get that into the hands of somebody who
- 33:53S10: can use it. Maybe God gave you that extra money
- 33:56S10: to buy that thing so that it could get into
- 33:58S10: the hands of somebody who actually needs it.
- 34:01S4: Cathy Lipp. She has the Clutter Free Academy podcast, also
- 34:04S4: has books. Her website has some really great tools. I
- 34:08S4: just was looking at your 50, like quick micro sorting.
- 34:13S4: I it gave me so many ideas that I want
- 34:16S4: to try when I get home.
- 34:17S3: I love it, Ali. Thank you. Ali's gonna do her
- 34:20S3: 15 minutes in the drawer thing.
- 34:22S4: Got my day planned out and it's not decluttering my
- 34:24S4: whole house. Maybe I'll do one drawer today.
- 34:27S3: That's it.
- 34:28S4: Text clutter will set you up. Text clutter to (800) 555-7898
- 34:33S4: if you want more from Kathy Lip, our guest this morning,
- 34:36S4: text clutter to (800) 555-7898.
- 34:42S1: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
- 34:45S1: Carl and crew.
- 34:47S2: There's a.
- 34:48S1: Classic term.
- 34:49S2: That's used young thunder. You've heard this one before. The
- 34:52S2: issue is rarely the issue.
- 34:55S5: Yeah. And it said a lot because it's true. If
- 34:58S5: I'm walking.
- 34:59S7: Around grumbling and maybe having some trouble controlling my anger,
- 35:04S7: it's probably not just because the guy in front of
- 35:06S7: me cut me off. There's probably something deeper to that.
- 35:09S2: I mean, scripture is clear. What comes out of your
- 35:11S2: mouth is really a heart issue. And counselors say the
- 35:14S2: presenting issue often isn't the issue, because what presents itself
- 35:19S2: is often something a little bit deeper. Lori Davis is
- 35:23S2: with me right now, former journalist, women's ministry director, and
- 35:28S2: she's got a handle on this thing called emotional hoarding,
- 35:32S2: letting go of the stuff that keeps you stuck. We
- 35:36S2: got a whole week here of get it together, folks.
- 35:39S2: And yet there's no condemnation in this. What usually is
- 35:43S2: the presenting issue that when you dig a little deeper,
- 35:46S2: there's something emotional going on. What do you say, Lori?
- 35:49S11: Yeah, that's a loaded question right out of the chute.
- 35:51S11: I think maybe we could pick on anger for a minute.
- 35:55S11: Since since you already brought that up. Yeah. You know, anger,
- 35:58S11: we often talk about it as a secondary emotion. So
- 36:03S11: when we talk about quote unquote hoarding anger, to your point,
- 36:08S11: what we're really hoarding is something deeper. It takes a
- 36:11S11: lot of courage to go kind of digging for that,
- 36:15S11: looking in our emotional closets, if you will, because often
- 36:18S11: what we find there underneath anger is grief or loneliness. Fear,
- 36:25S11: something that's much harder to express. Anger is easier to grab,
- 36:29S11: which is why when someone cuts you off in traffic,
- 36:31S11: you unload in anger. But yeah, to your point, there's
- 36:35S11: there's almost always something deeper.
- 36:38S2: Yeah, I'm, I'm loving this topic. I don't know that
- 36:41S2: we've ever gone after this. Um, you know, we can
- 36:45S2: think about organizationally stuff that you hoard, but your contention
- 36:51S2: is emotionally, if we don't offload and clean the shelves
- 36:56S2: of our heart, it's going to bite us in the
- 36:58S2: backside here. Bottom line. Right. Lori.
- 37:01S11: Yeah, that's a really clear bottom line. I mean, I
- 37:04S11: think emotionally hoarded hearts are an awful lot like physically
- 37:10S11: hoarded homes. There's only so much space. And at a
- 37:16S11: certain point in a hoarded home, for example, entire rooms
- 37:20S11: stop working the way they were designed to, to work.
- 37:24S11: You know, you can't make dinner in the kitchen anymore
- 37:26S11: because there's stuff stacked everywhere. So it's the same in
- 37:30S11: an emotionally hoarded heart, you know, entire areas of our
- 37:33S11: heart stop working, right? If we don't let the Lord
- 37:37S11: be Lord over everything in there.
- 37:42S2: Uh, Lori. So let's, let's even back up a little
- 37:45S2: bit more. What is emotional hoarding?
- 37:50S11: Yeah, that's a great question. I think we're all familiar
- 37:52S11: with emotional baggage, right?
- 37:54S3: Right.
- 37:54S11: So when we use that term, we're generally talking about, um,
- 37:59S11: un processed and dealt with difficult emotions. And so this
- 38:04S11: emotional hoarding, this concept kind of takes that up a
- 38:07S11: notch because this is now we're getting into emotions that
- 38:11S11: we have allowed to accumulate. Sometimes we do that willingly.
- 38:18S11: You know, we, we like holding on to grudges, which
- 38:21S11: the emotion attached to that is bitterness. Sometimes we do
- 38:25S11: it in sort of a self-preservation way, right? Like we
- 38:29S11: learned patterns in childhood. We learned to say sorry for
- 38:33S11: things that maybe weren't our fault. So now we struggle
- 38:36S11: with false guilt. And sometimes we think we should hold on.
- 38:41S11: If we hold on to that shame, that'll keep us
- 38:44S11: from relapsing into sin. So there's a variety of reasons
- 38:48S11: why we hold on. But this idea of emotional hoarding
- 38:51S11: is emotional accumulation.
- 38:54S2: How many people are emotionally hoarding because they don't want
- 38:59S2: to let someone else off the hook.
- 39:02S11: Oh, man. Well, all of us maybe.
- 39:04S2: Yeah, I think probably 100% right. At some level.
- 39:08S11: Yeah. At some point in our lives, actually, I like
- 39:11S11: that question a lot because one of the things that
- 39:13S11: surprised me when I was researching this book, emotional hoarding,
- 39:18S11: was that statistically, at any given time, each of us
- 39:22S11: is holding on to seven grudges.
- 39:26S3: Wow. Wow.
- 39:28S2: There's science on this.
- 39:30S11: There's science. And actually, I said that at a retreat
- 39:33S11: last weekend. And, you know, there were a couple women
- 39:35S11: seated near the front that were kind of like making
- 39:37S11: the facial expression. I'm not holding a grudge. And to
- 39:41S11: that I said, and if you feel like you have
- 39:44S11: a clean slate, you're not a grudge holder. You forgive easily.
- 39:47S11: That's great news. But that means the woman next to
- 39:49S11: you is holding grudges.
- 39:53S3: And the one you've.
- 39:53S2: Thought that is. It isn't true anyway, Um.
- 39:56S11: Right. Yeah.
- 39:58S2: So if you're going to not emotionally hoard grudges. What's
- 40:03S2: God plan to deal with them? And I'm not talking
- 40:06S2: about all out bitterness. I'm just talking about grudges because
- 40:09S2: those can be nagging and weighty, can't they?
- 40:14S11: Yeah, I think I think it takes a little bit
- 40:16S11: of courage to look in the mirror and say, you know,
- 40:20S11: I'm holding on to this and I like how it feels.
- 40:25S3: Yeah.
- 40:26S11: So I think that's a good starting point. But I
- 40:30S11: think it just takes a, you know, when Jesus said,
- 40:33S11: carry your cross daily, I used to think that meant
- 40:37S11: just check marks on a reading plan. I think this
- 40:41S11: is the kind of stuff he was talking about. Lay
- 40:44S11: it down. It's not worth the cost.
- 40:47S2: Laurie Davies is my guest right now. Coming up here
- 40:50S2: in a moment. Let's get we can't unpack all of
- 40:53S2: it because you've written on it extensively. But let's give
- 40:57S2: some basic steps of how you identify emotional hoarding and
- 41:02S2: how you begin to offload it. More with my guest,
- 41:05S2: Lori Davies, straight ahead.
- 41:07S1: The gospel changes everything.
- 41:10S4: Where else am I gonna find peace, joy, eternal life
- 41:13S4: not found in anyone else?
- 41:16S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 41:18S2: Lori. Dave is with me right now. She's the author
- 41:21S2: of a brand new book, and we're going to feature
- 41:23S2: this in just a moment. But one of the cool things,
- 41:27S2: and when I say brand new, I'm talking this month, guys,
- 41:30S2: one of the cool things that we're tackling here today
- 41:32S2: that I don't think we've ever gotten after this directly
- 41:34S2: is emotional hoarding. How do you help people identify whether
- 41:39S2: they're hoarding really bad emotions? Because not all emotions are bad,
- 41:43S2: by the way, but how do you help people identify
- 41:46S2: if they're doing that?
- 41:47S11: Each chapter in emotional hoarding deals with an emotion. And
- 41:53S11: so in each chapter, there's kind of a cheat sheet on, hey,
- 41:57S11: this might be building up in you if a, b, c, d, e, um,
- 42:03S11: so globally ten zero zero zero foot view, I would
- 42:06S11: say we can tell we're emotional hoarders if we're ruminating
- 42:09S11: on something, think about it all the time, or if
- 42:12S11: we're completely avoiding it, going the opposite direction. Like you've
- 42:17S11: heard the euphemism, you know, just sweeping things under the rug.
- 42:20S3: Yes.
- 42:21S11: So one way or the other, a lot of this
- 42:23S11: stuff shows up in our physiology. You know, we're not
- 42:26S11: sleeping well. Our, our tummies hurt. Um, so there are
- 42:32S11: those kind of global symptoms. But then in each chapter
- 42:35S11: I look at, well, what happens if worthlessness has built
- 42:40S11: up in you? What are the symptoms of that? Same
- 42:43S11: with fear, same with worry, same with um, bitterness we've
- 42:47S11: already hit on. So I think the reader will kind
- 42:51S11: of be able to look step by step at at, hey, this,
- 42:56S11: this might have built up and I didn't even see it.
- 42:59S2: So let's take a big one. Let's take the emotion
- 43:02S2: of bitterness over betrayal. Okay, let's just go after that one.
- 43:07S2: If I walk into you and I say, and by
- 43:09S2: the way, this is women and men, everybody struggles with this.
- 43:12S2: But let's say I walk in you and go, Lori.
- 43:15S2: All right, here's the deal. I was burned by a buddy,
- 43:21S2: and that betrayal hurts. And the reason it's betrayal is
- 43:24S2: because he was a buddy, right? You don't you don't
- 43:26S2: feel betrayed by the guy on the street that calls
- 43:28S2: you an idiot. So I was betrayed. Now I've got
- 43:32S2: this emotion that I'm holding on to or hoarding. How
- 43:36S2: do I let it go?
- 43:37S11: Well, first you have to identify it. We can't fix
- 43:40S11: what we won't name. So I think take inventory first.
- 43:44S11: Are you consumed with negativity toward that person? Do you
- 43:48S11: not like it if something good happens to that person.
- 43:52S2: Oh good one.
- 43:54S11: Do you keep tabs on that person not letting them
- 43:57S11: out of your life? Like, do you do you kind
- 43:59S11: of check their social media all the time? Um, do
- 44:02S11: you feel irritated if their name comes up? So I
- 44:04S11: think first we have to look at is this. Has
- 44:07S11: this built up in me? And then for the letting go,
- 44:12S11: I think there has to be a movement toward Lord,
- 44:16S11: I'm willing to start this process of forgiveness. You know,
- 44:19S11: the the dad in Mark nine, the dad who says,
- 44:24S11: I believe, Lord, help my unbelief. I think we kind
- 44:27S11: of start the same process with forgiveness. Like, Lord, I
- 44:30S11: forgive all my unforgiveness. And we enter that process of
- 44:36S11: of understanding that bitterness isn't going to get us closer
- 44:38S11: to Christ. It's not going to get us closer to people.
- 44:42S11: And in the end, it's just not worth the toll
- 44:45S11: that it takes on our hearts.
- 44:48S2: What's the blue sky vision here? Lori. Lori Davies, my guest,
- 44:52S2: by the way, author of this new book, Emotional Hoarding.
- 44:54S2: I'm going to have a link for you here in
- 44:55S2: just a moment, not only to the book, but to
- 44:57S2: her site. So it's going to be a cool, cool
- 45:00S2: link here, but what's the blue sky vision? What are
- 45:03S2: we aiming for? How do you I mean, come on,
- 45:06S2: put a carrot out there. What are we going after here?
- 45:09S11: Freedom. Freedom is our target. I think if we're looking
- 45:14S11: essentially at what happens when things stack up, we're talking
- 45:17S11: about grudges. Maybe dread around secrets, regrets, fear. When all
- 45:23S11: of that stuff compounds. Well, that starts to sound like
- 45:27S11: a life of bondage.
- 45:28S3: Yeah.
- 45:29S11: That's exactly where the enemy wants us.
- 45:33S2: So here it is, guys. Boom! Crew, we want to
- 45:35S2: get this into your hands. Text the word stuck. It's
- 45:39S2: called emotional hoarding. Letting go of the stuff that keeps
- 45:42S2: you stuck. Just text the word stuck to Hundred 5557898
- 45:49S2: 805 557898. You're going to find two links embedded there.
- 45:56S2: Use them both and watch God work in your life.
- 45:59S2: Freedom is the goal. Text the word stuck to 800 555, 78, 98.
- 46:06S1: This is Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 46:10S2: Brand new features. Second installment starting today. The time is.
- 46:15S3: Now.
- 46:18S1: Finding nuggets of truth in everyday life.
- 46:21S12: It's a metaphor. It's just a metaphor, dude.
- 46:23S13: That's a metaphor.
- 46:24S12: It's a metaphor. I know it's a metaphor.
- 46:26S1: It's time for making a metaphor with young thunder.
- 46:30S2: Okay, this way it works. Uh, by the way, great
- 46:33S2: big music. Love that. Amazing how many times metaphor is
- 46:36S2: used in movies.
- 46:37S3: Um.
- 46:38S2: We are really having some fun with this. So a story,
- 46:43S2: a place, a person, a thing, something going on out there.
- 46:47S2: And we tell the story in young Thunder draws spiritual
- 46:51S2: application from it, God willing. A lot of pressure.
- 46:54S3: On him.
- 46:54S7: God willing. I don't know what the stories are before
- 46:56S7: before this segment right now, so I don't know what
- 46:59S7: I'm gonna hear.
- 47:00S3: Ali. You're up.
- 47:02S4: Okay, so this is a really simple one from my
- 47:04S4: house this week. So we had this, uh, doorbell that
- 47:09S4: was broken and it's been broken for a long time.
- 47:13S4: So we had no way of knowing when people were coming, except.
- 47:17S3: I was going to say.
- 47:18S2: They think it's working.
- 47:19S3: Right, except.
- 47:20S4: For a text or a knock on the door. So
- 47:23S4: you can see why that's obviously a problem. So this
- 47:25S4: is one of those things that just kind of was
- 47:28S4: on the to do list, but fell and fell and fell.
- 47:30S4: So finally this week I got a new video doorbell installed.
- 47:37S4: So it's it. And I've just been staring at it
- 47:40S4: because when you finally get that thing accomplished. So now it's,
- 47:44S4: mounted outside and I can I have a good clear
- 47:47S4: view of the whole front porch. So now we went
- 47:50S4: from having no doorbell to a sleek video one. I
- 47:54S4: can look at it on my phone, I can know
- 47:56S4: what's happening. And that's the big news from my household
- 47:59S4: this week. I now have a doorbell.
- 48:02S2: These were invented for Ali. This is your jam. Why?
- 48:07S2: Why would you say doorbell? To monitor what's going on.
- 48:11S2: Are you kidding me? You love it.
- 48:12S4: Our house is actually not wired for a traditional doorbell.
- 48:16S4: So we have to have one that's just kind of.
- 48:19S4: I don't want to wire it for that. So just
- 48:20S4: a video doorbell is the new thing that's happening. So
- 48:23S4: that's my real life. This week, Jonathan, how can you
- 48:27S4: make that a metaphor?
- 48:28S7: Well, man, let me tell you something. There is nothing
- 48:30S7: more frustrating than something that has a job, a very
- 48:36S7: clear purpose, but isn't accomplishing it. Nothing can be more
- 48:40S7: frustrating than that. And you know what? We as Christ
- 48:44S7: followers have been given a purpose. A clear job by God.
- 48:48S7: Second Peter or First Peter two nine says, but you
- 48:52S7: are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,
- 48:55S7: a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim
- 48:58S7: the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness
- 49:01S7: into his marvelous light. Your purpose on this earth is
- 49:06S7: to proclaim the excellencies of God so that others can
- 49:10S7: come to know him. You know, Saint Augustine of Hippo says,
- 49:14S7: you have made us for yourself, and our heart is
- 49:18S7: restless until it finds rest in you. Our heart is
- 49:22S7: restless until we come close to God and accomplish his
- 49:26S7: purposes with him. That is what he's made us for,
- 49:30S7: and that is where we find the most joy. So
- 49:32S7: you might be feeling some frustration in your life right now.
- 49:35S7: Maybe things just aren't going quite the way you feel
- 49:38S7: like they should, and you don't know why. Maybe it's
- 49:41S7: because God's given you a clear purpose, and maybe you
- 49:46S7: need to take a step deeper into that purpose.
- 49:50S2: Ding ding.
- 49:50S4: Ding. Wow.
- 49:51S7: Talk with God today and turned into that video doorbell.
- 49:55S7: That works perfectly because you're doing exactly what you've been
- 49:59S7: made to do.
- 50:00S4: Love it. Make it a metaphor. Boom. How is he gonna.
- 50:05S4: How is he gonna spin a broken.
- 50:07S2: Where he was.
- 50:08S4: Replaced? Doorbell. Make it a metaphor.
- 50:10S7: Make it a metaphor.
- 50:11S4: Thursdays, 630 and 830. Central time right here on Carl
- 50:14S4: and Crew. This is a new feature. And soon we're
- 50:18S4: going to be asking you for your real life stories, too.
- 50:20S4: So get those ready.
- 50:22S2: Yeah, you get to call in and pitch him a story,
- 50:24S2: and he's going to make it a metaphor for spiritual diamonds.
- 50:27S2: Guys just like that. That's a lot of fun. Way
- 50:31S2: to go, my man. Thanks.
- 50:33S7: I really enjoy it.
- 50:34S2: 30 year old, old timer. The old soul is accurate.
- 50:39S2: It's good stuff.