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HEAR IT: Millionaire's Crazy 911 Call After Wife Vanishes · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Clime Stories with Nancy Grace Burden Crystal. Yeah, my wife,
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  Speaker 1: My wife's dead. Okay, so where did issue They chuck her?
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  Speaker 1: They chuck her block. The guy broke into my house.
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  Speaker 1: He drove me here. He had a friend. They've just gone.
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  Speaker 1: They've gone in the pickup truck. Okay, So your wife,
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  Speaker 1: she's dead. They got an old they set her quarter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they killed killed her yesterday, killed her yesterday. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: we we we've been driving uh in New Park each Okay,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, let me get Okay, you're hearing one of
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  Speaker 1: the most bizarre nine one one calls I have ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a lot of nine one one calls. I
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  Speaker 1: Meanancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. Let's hear the rest of that nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call? Why is it dead? And soul? And yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who is he? Um? One one one? How do you
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  Speaker 1: know one? I picked him up to look at some
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  Speaker 1: painting work at the house. I brought him to the house.
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  Speaker 1: So when did this happen? Yesterday? Middle of the day. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. And when did she die? Yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Middle of the day? Okay, and where is she now?
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  Speaker 1: I can love it. Uh, they have her body. They
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  Speaker 1: say they're gonna cut her up. Boys, her body one
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  Speaker 1: and she Okay, So when she died at eleven o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: they took her Yeah, yeah, they maybe put her in
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  Speaker 1: the car. Now you know she's dead. She drowned, drowned.
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  Speaker 1: Her body was deaf. Even I've been driving with them.
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  Speaker 1: They say they're gonna cut her up. What's your name?
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  Speaker 1: Peter Chadwick? Wow? Peter Chadwick calling nine one one, multi millionaire,
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  Speaker 1: married twenty one years to his sweetheart, his college sweetheart,
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  Speaker 1: and now these nine one one calls? Uh straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Wendy Patrick joining me, California prosecutor author I've read
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  Speaker 1: lags on Amazon. Sounds like he doesn't know the time
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  Speaker 1: or the date his wife was murdered, and that he
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  Speaker 1: hired these two guys he's referred to as one and Chay,
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  Speaker 1: and somehow they've taken his wife's body. How did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems with a nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call, Wendy Patrick. Oh yeah, and that now when
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  Speaker 1: an operator is asking a lot of great cross examination questions,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you talk about a picture being worth a
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  Speaker 1: thousand words and a video has even more priceless. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can even hear in somebody's voice what they are thinking,
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  Speaker 1: what they're feeling, and the credibility and all the rest
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  Speaker 1: of it. This is one of the reasons we have
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  Speaker 1: to hear these types of nine one one calls instead
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  Speaker 1: of just having somebody recite what somebody said on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Everything about the voice, intonation, the hesitation, the lack of
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  Speaker 1: what you might expect somebody to be feeling after just
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  Speaker 1: witnessing the death of a spouse after all those years.
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  Speaker 1: That is one of the things that makes this type
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  Speaker 1: of a call so valuable for a jury. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: put on your seat belts. Here's some more. Are you
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  Speaker 1: on any kind of medication? Sir? Okay, it's not bad, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I think they're going they might be going to
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  Speaker 1: Mexico or somewhere. Okay, but this happened yesterday at eleven.
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  Speaker 1: You're now calling us at five thirty in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I know I want you to get him. Yeah, so here, okay,
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  Speaker 1: good talk to one. Okay, thank goodness, the cops got there.
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  Speaker 1: So how many hours up past? Joining me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel? Dave Max, indicated talk show host Detective at
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley dot com. Stephen Lampley, renowned psychologist Karen start
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  Speaker 1: dot com joining us from Manhattan retired chief medical Examiner
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  Speaker 1: doctor Chris Sperry, and California prosecutor author of red Flags
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon, Wendy Patrick, Dave Matt. Let me just start
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  Speaker 1: with the facts. What happened that we know of. Who's dad,
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  Speaker 1: Where did the incident occur? Who is one and chay?
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  Speaker 1: And who's this guy calling nine one one? All right?
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  Speaker 1: The guy on the phone with nine one one is
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  Speaker 1: Peter Chadwick. He and his wife QC were married for
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  Speaker 1: almost twenty one years. They were college sweethearts and they
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  Speaker 1: had three children. One child was away at boarding school,
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  Speaker 1: the other two child all happening because they came home
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  Speaker 1: for a school and we're at the bus stop and
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  Speaker 1: nobody picked them up. Okay, wait right there, Hold on,
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  Speaker 1: I heard you say, children come home from school waiting
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  Speaker 1: at the bus stop and nobody shows up. Listen. Their
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  Speaker 1: oldest son was away at boarding school on October tenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve. That's the day his two brothers found their
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  Speaker 1: world turned upside down. These boys got out of school
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  Speaker 1: and what happened? So they get out of school and
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  Speaker 1: a bus drops them off at a bus stop near
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  Speaker 1: their house, and Sergeant Bryan Peters remembers that day and
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  Speaker 1: a neighbor saw them sitting at the bus stop past
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  Speaker 1: the time that they typically get picked up by either
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  Speaker 1: Peter or QC. So she stopped and asked, have you
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  Speaker 1: reached your mom and dad? And they said no, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't been able to reach them. They were calling them.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was answering. It was very unusual for the Chadwicks
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  Speaker 1: not to be punctual. Lieutenant Brian Moore was called in later.
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  Speaker 1: Dad should be here to pick them up. Dad is
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  Speaker 1: always here, normal protocol during a missing person's cases. We're
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  Speaker 1: checking with friends, We're checking with relatives and checking the hospitals,
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  Speaker 1: checking with family, neighbors, anybody of any idea where they are,
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  Speaker 1: all attempts to locate them. We're a dead end, our
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  Speaker 1: friends at CBS. But that's not all. What about the
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  Speaker 1: scene of the crime. Investigators combed the Chadwick home for
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  Speaker 1: clues and then when they go upstairs and they walk
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  Speaker 1: into the master bath and that's when patrol realizes there's
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  Speaker 1: more to the story. In the master bathroom, they initially
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  Speaker 1: saw the broken glass, decorative glass that was around the
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  Speaker 1: bathroom tub, the edging. We had blood at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the bathtub. As you continue through the downstairs, the
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  Speaker 1: safest clearly a jar. So it's starting to look like
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  Speaker 1: more than just a welfare check situation. Yeah, obviously, whoever
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  Speaker 1: left left in haste looked quite suspicious. Okay, everything about
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  Speaker 1: the scene is very disturbing. We find out that there
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  Speaker 1: was broken glass, there was a blood, as safe was open.
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  Speaker 1: Everything looks wrong. Guys, you were hearing a nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call in San Diego. What happened? Nobody can make
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  Speaker 1: any sense of it. But when the cops arrive to
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  Speaker 1: the scene, they find a very very disturbing scenario. A
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  Speaker 1: big problem for me is that nobody was tipped off
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. Until the
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  Speaker 1: little boys were stranded at the bus stop. Nobody ever
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  Speaker 1: picked them up, and that is how they find out
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  Speaker 1: that things have gone sideways. I mean, according to this guy,
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  Speaker 1: this millionaire realtor, he's been in the car with these
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  Speaker 1: two men who he hired to paint as painters One
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  Speaker 1: and Shay for many many hours. Why are we just
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  Speaker 1: hearing about the wife being dead. He doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: story straight. The lackadotical tomb on the nine one one
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  Speaker 1: call even actually, Nancy, sounds like he's making the story
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  Speaker 1: up as he goes, and because I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: to be fact, but that was my impression. This story
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  Speaker 1: seems like something that was just a provedly made up
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  Speaker 1: from the get go. You know, Dave Matt you can
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  Speaker 1: learn so much from the nine one one calls. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the kicker. If the state i e. The cops,
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  Speaker 1: the investigators, detectives are questioning you and you're a suspect,
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  Speaker 1: you have a right to remain silent, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a right to remain silent, and everything can come
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  Speaker 1: into evidence when you volunteerily call nine one one and
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  Speaker 1: the nine one one dispatches asking you questions. Well, you know, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: you heard on that nine one one call that he
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  Speaker 1: was kind of reaching for the answers. The nine one
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  Speaker 1: one operator was brilliant in asking questions because his story
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  Speaker 1: wasn't making any sense. He in his head thought he
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  Speaker 1: had it figured out before he called. But it's five
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  Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, he's in San Diego. He's calling
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  Speaker 1: nine one one with a story that doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 1: of the nine one one operator keeps asking. She's nice
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  Speaker 1: about it. She just keeps asking questions that you want
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  Speaker 1: to know, and he doesn't seem to be able to
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  Speaker 1: answer them with truthfulness because he's making it up as
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  Speaker 1: he's going along. All of this will come up later
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  Speaker 1: on Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Chadwick claimed that he
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  Speaker 1: took a house painter named Juan no last name given
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  Speaker 1: to his home, and Juan attacked his wife, drowning her
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  Speaker 1: in their bathtub. He then threatened Chadwick with a two
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  Speaker 1: inch pocket knife, and Juan orders Peter to help him
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  Speaker 1: gets his body out of the tub. With Juan at
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  Speaker 1: his side, Chadwick claimed he was forced to drive all
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  Speaker 1: through the night with his wife's body in the back
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  Speaker 1: of his suv. He said that Juan then drove off
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  Speaker 1: with QC's body, leaving Chadwick alone at that gas station.
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  Speaker 1: Police picked up Peter Chadwick and immediately found holes in
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  Speaker 1: his story any signs of Juan at all. No, police
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  Speaker 1: say Chadwick is seen at a toll shortly after he
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  Speaker 1: left his home with no sign of Juan in the vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: No one had any idea who that was or could
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  Speaker 1: give us any information related to this person. What's more,
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  Speaker 1: Chadwick's own body had some incriminating injuries. He had scratches
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  Speaker 1: on his neck and arms in a bite mark on
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  Speaker 1: his forearm too, Doctor Chris Berry, troych Hire, Chief Medical Examiner,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Berry. When I see scratches on arms and neck,
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  Speaker 1: that scream out one thing, Chris, Yes, he did it himself.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen the photographs and those are we call factitious,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that they're that he did this to himself to
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  Speaker 1: try to make it look like he was attacked. But
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  Speaker 1: those do not have any of the features that I
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  Speaker 1: would associate with someone attacking someone else. They're very superficial.
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  Speaker 1: They look back. They were done with either the point
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  Speaker 1: of a knife or even the edge of the knife,
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  Speaker 1: just scraping the skin attack. Can you tell this with
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  Speaker 1: self inflicted versus possibly the wife QC doing it to him? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at the injuries to start with.
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  Speaker 1: Most often facial injuries are going to come from fingernails
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  Speaker 1: as someone scraped, grabbing the face and scraping the face,
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  Speaker 1: and those leave very distinctive marks behind little semicircular or
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  Speaker 1: slightly curved abrasions from the fingernail edge or broad scrapes
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  Speaker 1: from the fingernails themselves. These are actually cuts, their incised wounds,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that they came from the sharp edge of something.
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  Speaker 1: And also all of them are very superficial. They're uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your your child falling on the driveway and
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  Speaker 1: scraping his knee is going to get deeper injury in
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  Speaker 1: his knee than what those injuries are on his face.
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  Speaker 1: And that they're typically done, you know, for dramatic effect,
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  Speaker 1: but also you know, something like this, the it's done
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  Speaker 1: without understanding that experts could look at injuries like this
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  Speaker 1: and really tell how they are made, what kind of instrument,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's a knife or fingernails, And these just don't
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  Speaker 1: don't they Immediately they looked like they were self inflictive
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  Speaker 1: to me. Well, he claims that these two Jan and
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  Speaker 1: Shay had taken him on a long, long car ride
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  Speaker 1: with his wife's body in the car. But take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to what technology on covers. Peter stated that he
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  Speaker 1: had been driving with one from Anaheim to Newport Coast.
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  Speaker 1: During that trip, he was stopped by a police officer.
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  Speaker 1: We told him to move along from the side of
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  Speaker 1: the road. We were to contact that police officer who
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  Speaker 1: remembered the stop, had recorded the license plate and remember
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  Speaker 1: telling Peter to move along. He also remembered that for
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  Speaker 1: sure Peter was the only person in the vehicle, one
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  Speaker 1: or anyone else. There was no one else inside that vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: And for us, that was the first open shut light
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  Speaker 1: that he had told us that I was sure about.
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  Speaker 1: They tried to confirm everything that he was saying, and
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  Speaker 1: at point five point every aspect of it where they
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  Speaker 1: were able to locate a video camera, they're able to
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  Speaker 1: find a cell phone record or in this case interview
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  Speaker 1: a California how a control officer and their contact on
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  Speaker 1: his story kept falling apart. Wow, Okay, explain to me
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley detective. You can find him at Stephen Lampley
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  Speaker 1: dot com. How technology is used to destroy his story
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  Speaker 1: that these two guys had him on the run essentially
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  Speaker 1: and him I guess as a hostage with his wife's
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  Speaker 1: dead body in the car. Yeah, they see, the technology
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  Speaker 1: has come a long way even since when I first
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  Speaker 1: started as a police officer in the late eighties. DNA,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the technology and then forensics has just has
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  Speaker 1: blown open investigations to a new level. You know, with
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  Speaker 1: the tolls that you pass, you can retrieve the video.
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  Speaker 1: There is a camera on you when you go through
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  Speaker 1: a toll, even if you've got easy pass. There are
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  Speaker 1: tag grabbers on the side of the road that can
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  Speaker 1: grab your license tags. There are cameras everywhere. If you're
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  Speaker 1: like me, I couldn't care less if a camera catches
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  Speaker 1: me zooming by on my minivan. In my minivan as
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  Speaker 1: long as I'm not running red line, of course, But
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  Speaker 1: for people that have a dead body of the trunk,
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole another can of worms. And there was
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  Speaker 1: one other problem a suitcase. And then there was this
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  Speaker 1: a packed suitcase in Chadwick's car. We had a suitcase
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  Speaker 1: all milk clothing insight that was just kind of thrown
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  Speaker 1: in there as if somebody kind of packed hastily. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: there was a bag in the car of men's clothes.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of kidnapper says, hey, go ahead and pack
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  Speaker 1: yourself an overnight bag, which is part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: That's not normally the thing that happens. During the initial contact,
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  Speaker 1: Peter was kind of all over the map. His story
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  Speaker 1: was very disjointed. He'd go through the range of emotion crying. However,
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  Speaker 1: the officer never saw a tear, two moments of anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: and just complete quiet. And the most interesting thing was
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  Speaker 1: during the entire contact with law enforcement and with our detectives,
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  Speaker 1: he never once asked about his kids. He never asked
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  Speaker 1: about the boys. No, no, we're talking. He hasn't seen
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  Speaker 1: him since the morning prior when he dropped him off
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  Speaker 1: for school. What did that say to you? To me,
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  Speaker 1: it means that he's more concerned with his story creating
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  Speaker 1: an alibi that he is about his own sons. It appeared.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, our friends at CBS Karen Stark, we need
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  Speaker 1: to shrink big time. I mean, the first thing I
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  Speaker 1: think of in the morning is where are the twins?
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  Speaker 1: What are the twins doing? Are the twins asleep all
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  Speaker 1: during the day? Are they okay? How did their task go?
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  Speaker 1: How did this? Blah blah blah blah blah. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: remotely in the area, I swing by too, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just very innocently spy on them. Lost. Why would the
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if my wife had been murdered, my spouse
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  Speaker 1: had been murdered, my paramount concern would be what about
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  Speaker 1: my children? Are they okay, But Nancy, you have authentic feelings,
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  Speaker 1: so of course you would be thinking about the twins,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be concerned about your mother. This is somebody who
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  Speaker 1: can't feel that way. He has no empathy, so all
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  Speaker 1: he's concerned about is Kenny. Stick to his story. If
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  Speaker 1: you hear the way he sounded on the nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call, his voice was totally flat. There's no emotion.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't even fake emotions, so he cannot feel. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: he's not worried about his children at all. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of the nine one one call, let's take a
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  Speaker 1: little listen to that again. Yea, my wife did, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so where they chuck her? They chuck her blue. The
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  Speaker 1: guy broke into my house. He drove me here. He
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  Speaker 1: had a friend. They just gone. They've gone in the
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  Speaker 1: pickup truck. Okay, so your wife she's dead. They got
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  Speaker 1: they took her. Course. Yeah, they killed killed her yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We killed her yesterday, yeah, we we we we've been
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  Speaker 1: driving uh in Newport Beach. Okay, oh no, letting him
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  Speaker 1: as a bread bum clime stories with Nancy Grace. He said,
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  Speaker 1: why is he did and soul? And she said her yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who is he umm one one one? How do you
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  Speaker 1: know one? I picked him up to look at some
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  Speaker 1: painting work at the house. I brought him to the house.
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  Speaker 1: And when did this happen? Yesterday? Middle of the day. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. And when did she die? Yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Middle of the day. Okay, and where is she now?
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  Speaker 1: I love it? They have her body, they say they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna cut her up. Has her body one? And she okay?
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  Speaker 1: So when she died at eleven o'clock, they took her yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they maybe put her in the car. Now you know
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  Speaker 1: she's dead. She drowned. It's drowned. Her body was deaf.
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  Speaker 1: Even I've been driving with them. They say they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: cut her up. What's your name? Peter Chadwick? You know
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  Speaker 1: you are hearing a nine one one call placed by
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  Speaker 1: a multi millionaire, a real estate investor. You know, with
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  Speaker 1: all that education, all that acumen, all that money, you
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  Speaker 1: think he could do a little bit better on the
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  Speaker 1: nine one one call. And sitting here in the studio
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  Speaker 1: with me, Jackie Howard's saying he thinks he's so smart,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Dave Mack joining me, syndicated talk show host.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many problems with his story. What glares out
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  Speaker 1: at you every bit of it Because when the nine
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  Speaker 1: one one operator is asking him specific questions, if he
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  Speaker 1: was telling a truthful story, the answers would come right away.
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  Speaker 1: It would be it would be concise, it would be
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  Speaker 1: in order, it wouldn't be an issue. But he's even
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  Speaker 1: adding names. It's like, yeah, it was one, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And at first, if you actually listen to it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at first the guy broke into his house. But then
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, no, he's a handyman and I brought
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  Speaker 1: him into my house. Still get some painting, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the story just keeps compounding himself. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he thinks he's so smart, but he can't tell this
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  Speaker 1: basic story that makes any sense at all. So what
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  Speaker 1: do we know about their relationship? Listen, The Chadwicks lived
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  Speaker 1: a very suburban life. Peter was very quiet, very self
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  Speaker 1: spoken QC. She was bubbly and vivacious. When you say
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  Speaker 1: bubbly and vivacious, did she have a sense of humor?
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  Speaker 1: She was very funny. Yes, it's so smart and talented.
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  Speaker 1: She could do anything. Our kids started the same school
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: as her children. They were all friends. You see, she
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: came from Malaysia, not speaking English, and she met Peter
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: in school. She told us Peter would work out of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the home managing the family investments. You know, they lived well.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So from the outside, did it seem like the Chadwick's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: had this idyllic life. Yes, from the outside, it definitely
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: seemed that way. You're hearing our friend Tracy Smith at CBS.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And there's more. Peter came from a wealthy family. He
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was born in Britain and had dual citizenship. QC's family
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: was also affluent. They met at Arizona State University. Did
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you get the sense that she was very in love
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: with him? Yes, that she was in love with him
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and that she depended on him. Also, what do you need?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Depended on him? QC found our country to be a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: bit new and strange, different from where she had come from,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and she was learning about how to do things here.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Did you get the sense that Peter liked her depending
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: on him. Yes, Yeah, we definitely all felt that he
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: was completely comfortable with that. She was definitely less independent
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: than many of her friends. You're hearing our friend Tracy
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Smith over at CBS. That was the family dynamic. But
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: right now there's a big problem, Dave mac Nobody knows
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: where QC Chadwick is or her body. After the nine
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: one one call with Peter Chadwick, the police showed up,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and that's when you can actually hear on the nine
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: one one calls. Police show up and he begins talking
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to them, and they then tried to decipher exactly what's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going on with his story and where his wife's body is.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Cops do it all. They check cell phone records, they
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: check everything regarding social media, computers, cameras in the neighborhood, everything,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and it takes and ann and they still can't find
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: QC or her body. What she just disappears off the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: face of the earth until a tip. We started finding
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: QC's items. We found nice bags, we found a really
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: nice purse, so we set those aside. When we though
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and up the bag, that's when we found QC's ID,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: her permanent residency card, ten dozen dollars cash, and all
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of this stuff is the stuff that he described Juan
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: taking with QC's body into Mexico and wrapped in that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: green blanket. QC's body. It was a huge break for us.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: The dumpster was scheduled to be picked up the Thursday morning,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: which was the next morning after we believe Peter disposed
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of QC's body. The issue without was there was some
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: kind of billing dispute, so they were supposed to pick
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: up the dumpster, but they didn't. Once detectives finally found QC,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner was able to determine how she died.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: There was a pretty violent struggle which resulted in strangulation
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and possible drowning. Wow, so how could they determine from that?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: To doctor Chris Berry, chief medical Examiner, that there have
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: been a possible drowning, I think that's based on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: scene evidence back at the house where there's a deep bathtub,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a hot tub with broken vase and some blood and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the evidence of a struggle around that area. Drowning is
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the diagnosis of exclusion. It's very difficult from a pathology
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: for you to actually establish that someone has truly drowned,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: but strangulation injuries should be very straightforward and fairly fairly
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: easy to detect with a good autopsy. So I think
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner was basically covering all bases knowing that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there was a struggle in and around a tub at
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the home with broken broken vase and other evidence. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that was added on. As I would say, I'm back
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: up in a sense to indicate the drowning may have occurred,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and if so, that would place probably QC back at
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the house. So let me understand, Dave Matt, syndicated talk
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: show host. Her body is found wrapped inside of a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: green blanket. Do we know where the blanket came from
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and where exactly was her body found? The blanket apparently
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: came from inside the home Nancy, and her body was
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: actually found in that dumpster as was described a while ago,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that was supposed to have already been taken to the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: dump but due to a filling dispute, it was actually
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: still there with the body intact. If you think the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: nine one one call was bizarre, listen to this. Peter
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Chadwick's explanation of QC's death has always been problematic. The
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: story changes often and the details are bizarre. For example,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: when asked to describe the knife that Juan used to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: threaten him during their sixteen hour long ordeal, Peter describes
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a small Swiss Army utility knife with a blade two
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: inches long, and he points out that the knife blade
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was very dull. His demeanor is also peculiar, as recorded
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: in a detective's report, I noticed that Peter appeared unemotional
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and almost sleepy throughout her contact. He spoke very quietly
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and with a British accent. Peter was very slow to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: answer my questions and would take frequent long posits. During
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: his answers, he frequently put his hands over his face,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: as if he was going to cry, But when he
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: removed his hands, he did not appear emotional. His eyes
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: were not red and or watering. In one version of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the one story, the killer sits on Peter's chest for
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a solid five minutes so that he can't attempt CPR
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: on his dying wife. In another, one forces Peter to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: disrobe after QC is dead. Peter then tries to charge
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: at one but one grabs his testicles and squeezes them
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to subdue him. Okay, though, that's from our friends that
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: count down to capture Karen. Start with a guy's story.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: How does it always boil down to his testicles? Something
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to do with his testicles, his penis his sex life.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Here we go. First of all, the guy sits on
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: him okay, while his wife is dying, he subdued because
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: one sits on him. Then he grabs his testicles. You know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it never ends with this guy, Karen, start was this
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: telling you? And also, Karen, while I've got you, what
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: about the fact that he appears like he's about to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: fall asleep while cops are trying to talk to him
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: about his wife's murder. Well there's that lack of emotion again, Nancy,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: where you know he could care less. So he's trying
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to act as though this is important to him, that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's killed him, that he's putting his hands over his face,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: but meanwhile he's falling asleep. He's boring himself. And his
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: story is unusual for a psychopath. And the reason saying
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that is that they're usually very planned and exact, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're going to say, even if
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you and I don't think it'll make sense, they've worked
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it out. This guy hasn't worked it out at all.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So his story becomes very involved, and all of a sudden,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: his manhood comes to question and they're restraining him. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: what's the worst ways We're having testicles right to a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: man and he's just revealing so much about who he
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: is rather than any truthful story Prime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Police believe Queen may have also suspected Peter was cheating
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: on her, and Orange County DA Tony Ricocca says her
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: suspicions were confirmed in the most shocking way just days
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: before she was murdered Peter. It brought home some sexually
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: transmitted diseases and so that was creating a tremendous hardship
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: with her. Well, police still don't have enough evidence to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: prove Chadwick killed his wife until Queen's body is found
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in a dumpster in suburban San Diego and the coroner
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: determines she had been strangled. The evidence is really is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: really pretty clear. It includes pictures of Chadwick with scratches
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: on his neck, blood spatter, and the couple's bathroom evidence
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of a fight there. And that surveillance video of the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: family squv leaving their home with no sign of one
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in the car. Okay, you know Dave Max, indicated talk
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: show host, don't you think that's a major piece of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this puzzle. He waltz is in the front door with
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: an STD and STD sexually transmitted disease, and then a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: couple of days after that she goes missing. You don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: think that's connected, Dave Mack, Well, it has to be, Nancy.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You can't come home and tell your wife she needs
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to take penicilla for your kidney infection. So what else
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: is she going to think? Where did he possibly get it?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And of course now the jig is up. She knows everything,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: she has the proof, and as you heard in the report,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: she's thinking about this and talking to others about possibly
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: ending the marriage. They've got money and property at stake,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: plus three children. So in addition to waltzing in and announcing,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: guess what, honey, I have an STD here's the penicillin
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: for you, are there any other motives? You just knew
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and understood the fact that they did not have the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: money people believed that they had, and she blew a
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: lot of their financial issues on Peter Investigators say the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Chadwicks were having frequent arguments and that Que was even
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: thinking about ending the marriage. We found out she did
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: talk about divorce a few times, but nothing was finalized,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and she didn't submit any paywork to the courts or anything.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And friend Karen Thorpe noticed if Que was increasingly distancing
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: herself from her husband. The last year or two, Que
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: was very much more independent than she had been. She
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: lost some weight, she was learning to do her makeup,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: she was spending more money on herself on clothing, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: she would go on trips with her girlfriends at times.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if Peter liked that very well.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: When you look at the facts and the totality of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the circumstances, it's no surprise the Orange County District Attorney
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Tony mccoccus came up with this. Now police formally charged
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Peter Chadwick with the first degree murder of his wife strangler.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: He took her to sand Go close to the border,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: dumped her body in a dumpster, called the police, told
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a crazy story, one that was not very believable, about
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: having been kidnapped by somebody named Juan. But believe it
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: or not, Da Racocus can't bring Chadwick to trial because
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: after being freed on a million dollars bail, Chadwick disappeared
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: nearly a year ago, never to be seen or heard
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: from since. Okay, wait a minute, explain this to me,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Dave Max indicated talks to your host. After all of this,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: he gets charged with murder. He gets a million dollar bill.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: That's nothing for a millionaire. A million dollars bill, that's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars. That's like you were I coming
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: up digging up a thousand dollars on a ten thousand
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: dollars bill. For him, that's nothing. But that's what the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: judge came up with and that's what he was released to.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: He also there were some restrictions applied to that. As usual.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: They pulled his passport for the UK and the US
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and he had to live with his father in Santa Barbara,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: which is north of where they were in Newport Beach.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Back to the bill, a million dollar bill. Why did
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the court allow a million dollar bill? I'll tell you why.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I think the bond was lowered because Eddie Simmer, the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: homicide prosecutor Matt Murphy, told the judge he didn't believe
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there was enough evidence to make special circumstances stick. Special
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: circumstances I as seeking the death penalty, and that is
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: when the court lowered the bill to a million dollars
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and Chadwick bills out. Let me tell you his neighbors
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: were horrified that his three little children would now be
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: living with him, and now he's on the run. How
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: do you think he did at Steve Lampley, Matthew, you're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: talking about how he got away, Well, maybe why he
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: got away. Obviously he's running from the charge. But there
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: are any number of ways to disappear, and most of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the better ways is to go to Central not go
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to Mexico. Mexico is not a point could go to,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: but a lot of people you will find would be
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: going to Central or South America. And one of the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: first things you do is gradually take your money out
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: a little by little, because you're deep money. He's apparently,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: from what I understand, they're very master, very good master
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: of disguises. I've seen him in several different photos with
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a beard, without beer glasses, head for the hairstyle. So
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he's obviously on the run and he could be on
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the run for some time. So Dave matt Chadwick has
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: now been on the lamb over four years. How much
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: longer can he make it? Is he getting help? You know, Nancy,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: whether he's getting help or not. They know that he
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: actually cleared out bank accounts okay, up to a million
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: dollars maybe even more. He did it over a period
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of time. They know that while that nine one one
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: call was so scattered and bad that over the last
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: several years, is he planned his escape? You think about it,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: This guy went to court thirteen different times to kind
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: of lull everybody into a place of complacence, he believing
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he was going to follow through with everything, all the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: while getting money out of the bank, all the while
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: studying books about getting a new identity, about disappearing in
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: South America. This is a guy who plotted him, planned,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and then ron it's just time. A couple of days
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: before his fourteenth court appearance, he goes to the Santa
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Barbara Airport. They got him on video cameras and everything else.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: He goes in and hangs out in the airport for
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: six hours and then apparently leaves the airport in another
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: taxi and that's the last sign we have of him. So,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: while that nine one one call was horrible and showed
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: he had didn't have a clue, the next couple of
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: years he plotted him planned, So yeah, he could stay
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: gone for a long long time. When you say he
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: plotted him planned for the next four years, what do
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you mean by that? Well, he actually okay when you
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: look at he got out on bail, and he did
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: everything he was supposed to do. He moved in with
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: his dad, and he made thirteen straight court appearances, so
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: he was making them believe he's going to show up
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: in court. But right before the fourteenth court appearance, that's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: when he goes missing. And in that time period, during
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: those thirteen court appearances, he was slowly taking money out
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of the bank so that there were no red flags
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: for them. All of a sudden, He's got books that
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: they found after he left. He left behind two books,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: in particular how to change your identity and how to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: live on the run successfully in surviving in Mexico. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: when I say that he plotted and planned, is that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: he was very thorough. This is a smart guy. He
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: knows the real estate world, he knows the business world.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: And by the way, this is a guy who has
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: had dual citizenship. He became a naturalized citizen in ninety
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: one here in the US, I think, but he's a
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: UK citizen US citizen, and he's got international connections through
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: his real estate world, and that means he's got the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: opportunity to have access to real estate that he knows
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: how to flip and cash that he carried with him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: We all know that a million dollars goes further in
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: other places than it does in the US. How much
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: money do you think you too with him, day Max.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I think at least a million, because that's what the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: police are admitting to I'm guessing he had a lot
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: more than that. Wow, So coups can trace that much
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and to use Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Why do you say he was a master of disguise?
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Well as the pictures that I saw that there was
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: one he's got a guard cutter go kee with eyeglasses,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: dark colored hair. There's another he's clean shaven, and the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: pictures are hard to distinguish. He's very good at it,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and he could go off like they were saying. He
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: can off to say in the South American country, where
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the money does last evenly, forever, and even to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: point of perhaps having plastic surgery. Nancy, this man has
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the money and he has the wherewithal to do. That
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: depends on how bad he wants to stake on and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: if he finds a little village somewhere, which is what
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: most of the books will tell you if you're if
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you're running and you're on the limb, go to a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: small village somewhere and be nondescript and just hang out.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Change your identity. When you say a small village, what
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Where? Well, anywhere in any country,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: for a particularly South America, Central of South America, for instance,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Costa Rica. Anywhere as you're saying in South or Central America.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And also it must be noted that not all of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: those countries cooperate with the US very well in tradition matters.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: For right now, this is what we know. Peter Chadwick
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: has been named one of the US Marshal's fifteen most
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Wanted fugitives. If you have information about this killer that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: murdered his wife and abandoned his children, please call eight
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: hundred three three six zero one zero two. Eight hundred
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: three three six zero one zero two. Nancy Grace Crime Story,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: signing off Peter Chadwick. You can run, but you can't hide.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,