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Peter Grant · Not Another Football Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast. It's
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  Speaker 1: a special edition this one. We're live and Cabrol Roig
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  Speaker 1: Rosy McGuire's pub as the Swan start and they have
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic guest today, Jackie. Yeah, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: introduce them? Yes, it's the one and only legend Peter L.
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  Speaker 2: Grant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how are we?
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  Speaker 3: I'm fantastic all about. We're seeing news boys well being
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  Speaker 3: in your company as it always is and with a
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  Speaker 3: fantastic time last year. I'm sure it'll be the same
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, start of a long weekend, no doubt. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to take you back. Obviously, when I came to the
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  Speaker 1: club in ninety two, you were obviously an established player
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  Speaker 1: in the team. You took me under your wing alongside
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  Speaker 1: Paulmicks stay which your memories of that time.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously it was a difficult time, as you know through
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  Speaker 3: Celtic period they talk about six years you're going. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't realize it was going to be six years with
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  Speaker 3: out a trophy, but it was the start of it.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to the Cup, fell against Aarburdeane and then
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  Speaker 3: losing Parley's nineteen nine and that little did we know
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  Speaker 3: that was the last time going to win, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so it was a difficult time. But the first few years,
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  Speaker 3: the good thing was those younger players like yourselves coming
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  Speaker 3: in and for us that was so important, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because it kept with that traditionally bringing young good fantastic players,
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  Speaker 3: no good players, fantastic players coming out to the side,
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  Speaker 3: and it gave us a bit of a boost because
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  Speaker 3: we needed a.
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  Speaker 2: Lift, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And it was nice to see boys coming in that
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  Speaker 3: were brought through from Celtic, you know, and which had
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  Speaker 3: probably stopped a little bit after a period of time,
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  Speaker 3: but it started to regenerate again, like yourself and the
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  Speaker 3: Eddy and whatever, and it was very important for us.
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  Speaker 3: And as I say, it probably gave us a little boost, or.
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  Speaker 1: Could you kind of relate to that? Who were the
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  Speaker 1: guys that kind of looked after.
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  Speaker 2: You when you all?
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  Speaker 3: When I come in at first, I was blessed by
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  Speaker 3: the people I had had, Royeke and Danny mcgreen, Tommy Burns,
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  Speaker 3: all these guys.
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  Speaker 2: The team really I supported.
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  Speaker 3: I broke into because I always remembered that teams like
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  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty ten men won in the league. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, you can near enough get through the team,
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  Speaker 3: and it was one of the ones, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: did like Sae Roy Yeke and big Tom McCadam at
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  Speaker 3: the center back Matt Read the left back of Danny
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  Speaker 3: It right back in the midfield was David Proven. He
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  Speaker 3: told me, Buns your model McCloud in Pulmic's day. Then
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  Speaker 3: I came into that midfield and then you the front
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  Speaker 3: two swung around around a little bit. You'd like to
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  Speaker 3: fry McGarvey. Georgia just left. I came in and it
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  Speaker 3: was like say Moe and Brian McLear it was saying,
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  Speaker 3: and it was added to that group. So I was blessed,
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. And people say after that there
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  Speaker 3: was even some fantastic players and that people say it
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  Speaker 3: was a difficult time for Celtic, But in that difficult time,
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  Speaker 3: there was still some fantastic players come through it. There
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  Speaker 3: was absolutely you look at John Collins, you look at
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  Speaker 3: Pierre van hoyd On, you look at Andy Tom, George
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  Speaker 3: Cadetti didn't get any Celtic team in the respect to that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And I was blessed and I wouldn't change
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  Speaker 3: it for the world, even though it was a tough team.
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to have more medals than whatever. But they
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  Speaker 3: were special players and special memory, so Danny told me
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  Speaker 3: was probably the first two and Big Roy. At first
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  Speaker 3: I knew the professionalism, what it meant to play for Celtic.
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  Speaker 1: Toyslag you the way that you slagged me.
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  Speaker 3: Probably not in the way that I did take it
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  Speaker 3: to another level, you know well, but I think that
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  Speaker 3: was It was a term of endearment, you know. That
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  Speaker 3: was the way we always felt. If you made somebody
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  Speaker 3: comfortable and they respected, they think that first. So is
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  Speaker 3: he give me a hard time there? But it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: that way to see if you could handle it, And
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the most important thing because I
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  Speaker 3: felt that at first. I was on the ground staff
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  Speaker 3: for it over one hundred games after I'd made my debut,
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't want to come off it. It was
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  Speaker 3: me and Paul at first, Goddress John Slidden Slodie was
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  Speaker 3: on it with a boy called Steade Jardin. We on
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  Speaker 3: the arts taken. That was a boys. There's four us
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  Speaker 3: on the sort of ground staff. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: come off the girlfs like you need to come off
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  Speaker 3: now because you're in the playing every week I'm cleaning
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  Speaker 3: the players boos who weren't even playing.
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  Speaker 2: But I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love getting into the dress room and getting stick
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  Speaker 3: off the senior players, even though I was their teammate
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  Speaker 3: and a Saturday, I was still going in to pick
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  Speaker 3: their kitt up and clean their boots. And people called
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  Speaker 3: me the janitor because I was first on the last
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  Speaker 3: to leave at that particular team. But I knew one
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  Speaker 3: day would come an end. I even knew that even
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  Speaker 3: at the start of my career.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say that that you played. Were you playing
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  Speaker 1: one hundred games in the result before you got.
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  Speaker 3: To the first No, I'd actually played one hundred games
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  Speaker 3: in the first team when I was still on the
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  Speaker 3: ground start, you know, because it was one of the ones,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because the gaffer was trying to take off
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  Speaker 3: and I said, gaff, I've really like doing this. I enjoy
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  Speaker 3: going and cleaning the boots and all that. And it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't just the cleaning their boots. It was the fact
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  Speaker 3: that I have in the banner and address room, as
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  Speaker 3: you say, which makes you feel part of it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: God dressed nearly walking an absolutely Celtic legend when low
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  Speaker 3: people had turned the socks inside out, or if they
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  Speaker 3: bought the socks or their pants were inside out, he
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  Speaker 3: would leave them and they'll pick them up tomorrow. And
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  Speaker 3: it was all these disciplines you didn't know at the time.
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  Speaker 3: They were setting you in good stead foreving and for
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  Speaker 3: the rest of my life I've lived with him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: small details like that, you know, and it was so
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  Speaker 3: so important for me. That's why I love you, know.
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  Speaker 1: That, because we've been rooming with you since. And the
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  Speaker 1: first time you did when you got here was go
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  Speaker 1: to the shops and get all the message.
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  Speaker 3: But I've seen you send them out, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: send me out with the list. No, go and get
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  Speaker 3: the bread, go and get the milk. I couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: enough to come on back. I was coming back with
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  Speaker 3: their bage list. But no, I think it was good habits,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And I think that's things that live. People
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  Speaker 3: talk about the football. The football was brilliant and it
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  Speaker 3: was difficult. Tommy once come out with a great saying
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  Speaker 3: probably one of the times they said playing for Celtic,
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  Speaker 3: they said, I love it, he said, but they enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a different question because there was so much pressure
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  Speaker 3: goes along with it, day and day out. Represented absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: and I still think to this day, as yous guys
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  Speaker 3: do we represent all the time? People will remember you
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  Speaker 3: Jackie mckamar Simon, Donny Is Celtic. I forget other clubs
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  Speaker 3: you played for. They'll always remember you Is and for
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  Speaker 3: me that's a fantastic accolade. And coming over to a
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  Speaker 3: place like Cabro Roy and getting invited Celtic supporters functions,
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  Speaker 3: it obviously pinches you times because you think, well, the
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  Speaker 3: hell I was lucky to play there, and to this
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  Speaker 3: day I still feel blessed and lucky.
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  Speaker 1: You're that long away if the Celtic like me and Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, you still get places. The last one year
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  Speaker 1: to come over, I was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I was away twenty eight years there enough, but every
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  Speaker 3: place I went, I was in Bourne Mouth, I've been
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  Speaker 3: in London, I've been in Norwedge. All these Celtic supporters
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  Speaker 3: clubs rumbled down, all Celtic supporters clubs, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: quite incredible actually, and people don't realize how big this
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  Speaker 3: club is. And I keep saying to anybody with probably
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  Speaker 3: Manchester NATed. Nobody plays under the pressure that Celtic Rangers
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  Speaker 3: to be fair rangers. Players do, Yeah, because I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a different trotty character. It's not just a footballer.
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  Speaker 3: You just know that you represent footballers and you've been
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  Speaker 3: footballers yourself. There's a different pressure comes along with it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not, as I said, it's not just on the
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  Speaker 3: football field, it's everything else that goes along with it.
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  Speaker 3: And I still feel it this day that we're still
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  Speaker 3: representing that. Yeah, because people that's who people recognize you as.
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  Speaker 3: And you find it strange after I'm near sixty one
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  Speaker 3: now and I think it's kind's strange you're walking down
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  Speaker 3: the street and people still hope here and whatever. I'll
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  Speaker 3: find it weird. You should pinch yourself at times, but
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  Speaker 3: so proud of that as well. And the guys have
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  Speaker 3: played with the teams, were involved with the camaraderie we had.
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  Speaker 2: It was so so special.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about the pressure that are everything that comes
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  Speaker 1: with Celtic. So after that period were eighty nine, I
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  Speaker 1: think Joe Miller scores the goal in the Scottish Cup
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  Speaker 1: and we don't win anything until ninety five, my first
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  Speaker 1: So we're at Celtic, you were injured. Can you just
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  Speaker 1: talk about the build up to that because we had
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  Speaker 1: always written you off for the game. He ended up
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  Speaker 1: being Man of the Match against Earthy that day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we played done you needed if you remember
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  Speaker 3: it Tannaday's and remember Jim McNally, who was a big
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  Speaker 3: Celtic man gym and he's absolutely cemented me for the side.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought my knee was gone because I had
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  Speaker 3: hap to me before and I was out for four
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  Speaker 3: months at the time, and I remember being distraught because
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  Speaker 3: I knew it was only a couple of weeks to
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  Speaker 3: the cup final. Thankfully it was two weeks. I used
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  Speaker 3: to have if you remember the last league game and
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  Speaker 3: then it was two weeks. It wasn't the falling Saturday
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  Speaker 3: was Saturday after so that was when he took us absolute.
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  Speaker 3: We went Toally. But the funny thing was a battle.
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  Speaker 3: If you remember Fergus when they paid the money for
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  Speaker 3: a training ground and made the training on a roundabout,
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  Speaker 3: was absolutely But the funniest thing was Tommy's taming me.
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  Speaker 3: So I've got a galloper on so I can't even
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  Speaker 3: straighten my leg. They say about for four months, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm distraught. I'm missing a cup, fed on whatever. So
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  Speaker 3: we go over to there Italy. I remember Brian Scott
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  Speaker 3: the visual it was a alliant physio. Brian turns across
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  Speaker 3: the road. You just were training on the roundabout and
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  Speaker 3: I went over to the water and opposite side of
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  Speaker 3: the road, Brian dives in with through testing it and
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  Speaker 3: I thought he's going to have a heart attack. It
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  Speaker 3: was like water's dying and he was side and he
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  Speaker 3: could not believe us. But people said, but checking water
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  Speaker 3: before you get and that was something that stopped my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Some siding the side my pool and I'm just struck
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  Speaker 3: because I'm look, he's all along training preparing for a
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  Speaker 3: Cup final. Then we get back home and it for
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  Speaker 3: me'd only tained me and the fact to keep him
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  Speaker 3: the group, you know, but a real fun time.
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  Speaker 1: But if you still think you had no chance of
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  Speaker 1: playing it that, oh no, I was done.
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  Speaker 2: I was done.
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  Speaker 3: They told me four months there was no way, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew I had an injury before and I knew
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  Speaker 3: it was four months. But you know, you have some
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  Speaker 3: of these things in your mind. Sometimes you're thinking, this
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  Speaker 3: is one game, and I'd always says, I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is one game. It's a gaffer gize mental opportunity. Because
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  Speaker 3: I missed two Cup finals prior to miss nineteen eighty five.
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  Speaker 3: I missed the eighty eight Cup final and they broke
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  Speaker 3: my foot calf strain, and eighty the one hundredth Cup
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  Speaker 3: final was nineteen eighty five, and then we get to
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  Speaker 3: the Cup and I played not predominantly all the games.
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  Speaker 2: Then I missed this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking in eighty six, per the year they won
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  Speaker 3: the league, I'd missed probably three or four weeks prior
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  Speaker 3: to the St.
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  Speaker 2: Mum game.
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  Speaker 3: I got on the bench against Mobile prior to this
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  Speaker 3: is unbelievable. Any time that's going to a big game,
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  Speaker 3: playing all the games bill not but I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: miss another one. But the bizarre thing it was about
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  Speaker 3: Tanna Dice was I'm distraught, so being stretched off him
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  Speaker 3: in the room. As you remember Tanna Ice was a
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  Speaker 3: small dress room. The supporters you could hear them outside.
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  Speaker 3: We played well that day, we won the game. I'm distraught,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember TV COM I never had a team
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  Speaker 3: talk after it. He never said that would And I
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  Speaker 3: could see his face about ash and I'm side in
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  Speaker 3: my hands and I remember looking up to him. I
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  Speaker 3: could see tears in his eyes. And this is bizarre.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is I say, right, we've got to take
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  Speaker 3: you back to the hospital. We need to take your
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  Speaker 3: to hospital. Wag it down the stair, but Tommy's borrowed
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  Speaker 3: a car of someone and I get it. The I've
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  Speaker 3: been down the stairs. The hook up me down the stairs.
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  Speaker 3: I go down there. Tommy's in the driver's seat.
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  Speaker 2: Well what was that?
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  Speaker 3: And he's got this seat back next to him here,
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  Speaker 3: so that's lying back like a stretcher. He's like in here,
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  Speaker 3: say I'll take your hospital. So he drives me all
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  Speaker 3: the way down to Glasgow and it was a bonce
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  Speaker 3: of cure maybe at that particular time. So I got
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  Speaker 3: down there and Tommy's in tears in the car and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sobbing. I'm sobbing. I'm my Celtic kittling in the
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  Speaker 3: car and I'm sobbing. I said, just can't believe it,
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  Speaker 3: He said, anybody but you. And because he knew what
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  Speaker 3: I'd been through, because we were friends before he was
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  Speaker 3: a manager. I was very close to him and Rosemary
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  Speaker 3: god rest her Or and Rain. We're very close and
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  Speaker 3: spoke every day. But we used to go and holiday
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  Speaker 3: and all this. But when he became the manager, I
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  Speaker 3: tend of stepped back for I never I spoke to
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  Speaker 3: him less than that two years and I've done in
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  Speaker 3: my life. That night, I just thought I had to
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  Speaker 3: stop this, you know because and I phoned the one
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  Speaker 3: need to see it to him, I said, listen, we're
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  Speaker 3: great force. No you don't eat you. I said, you're
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  Speaker 3: the gaff and I'm going to give you that respect.
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  Speaker 3: Billerrain and Rosemary still spoke every day, thankfully, because what
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  Speaker 3: I am was after that begin to see the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: The doctor says this four months minimal.
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  Speaker 2: Your done.
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  Speaker 3: Alegment your knee at four months. So I'm in pieces.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in pieces. I go home that night just to
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  Speaker 3: straw and it was. It was probably the most of
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  Speaker 3: our being in my life because we went so long
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  Speaker 3: without winning the trophy. Now that's because I Missay Throbs.
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  Speaker 3: Even I thought it was a bad day and I've
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  Speaker 3: missed that through suspecise.
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  Speaker 1: Think about nowadays, I was the success.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, six.
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  Speaker 1: Seals was long.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was massive, and you forget probably it was
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  Speaker 3: wrongly a couple of is I'd been that sexually packing
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  Speaker 3: Paul myself and I remember geting to the car and
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  Speaker 3: Tommy takes us and but the reason was I get
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity to play in the coffee and I believe
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  Speaker 3: I'm not, but he didn't come up the side of
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  Speaker 3: the house. And I'm actually tackling the wall. We have
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  Speaker 3: caliber on and she go was buying the car and
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  Speaker 3: looks at me.
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  Speaker 2: It's that what you do? She can?
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  Speaker 3: She give me heart and listen, this feels okay. And
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  Speaker 3: I've phoned the gaffer and I see him. Gaffer, listen,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to believe us. I've been tackling the
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  Speaker 3: waller day and I feel all right, and he's like,
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: so his ball accounts. He phoned learning that night. He said, listen,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to let him train. We know he's going
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  Speaker 3: to fail. There's no chance, you know all of this
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  Speaker 3: so stuff. So the next day again, first time, Tommy's
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: doing an exercise that it's going to show up mee.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like sidefoot passing. And I could not even
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  Speaker 3: turn my leg to the site. So it was like
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  Speaker 3: sidefoot passing. But then he did wrap it. And know
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  Speaker 3: that or word, you've got to wrap it and if
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  Speaker 3: it catches outside of the foot, you're loss. So the
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  Speaker 3: first both came in, I swear to god, I was
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  Speaker 3: like pulling teeth and I'm like, oh, I better no maker,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm thinking to myself, I better not even gramas here.
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  Speaker 3: So it was all prepared in my mind. So after training,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: says how are you feeling? I said, great, feel good,
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  Speaker 3: feel good. I know bad at all? So I was fine.
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  Speaker 3: We were off the next day, so it gave me
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of time. You settled down. I was
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: in for treatment, a little bit of settled down. Phone
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  Speaker 3: is laying that, and I said, listen, he's strung. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to let him fail. He's going to turn
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  Speaker 3: up and say I can't do this.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Next day again, turn the exercise. And I went through
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  Speaker 3: training so I can start saying, say you now you
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  Speaker 3: feel that she got good?
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  Speaker 2: Feel good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeahful like you know. But he never gave me a
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  Speaker 3: definitive I had nothing like that. But on the Thursday
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  Speaker 3: evening he phones me to the house and he says,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: what you're thinking, and I knew for I went that
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  Speaker 3: I feel all right, I feel good or whatever. I went,
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  Speaker 3: I feel brilliant, I feel brilliant, I'm ready, I'm fit.
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  Speaker 3: I went, Okay, you're playing. You see, I'm going in
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  Speaker 3: the team of water and you're playing. And I went
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: that's good now for me. I shall won't let you down,
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: I said, I wouldn't they did that to you. I
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: shall know let you do. Marty Hearts. I was gonna
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: be a bit worried, concerned, you know, because I don't know.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: You get a tackle on the first one, say it's good,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: and I was concerned. And to be fair, Scotty done brilliant.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you if you ever watch a
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: team line up when they go out and I'll get
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: the tracksuit tops on, you look at my leg, my
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: legs like as if it's a it's strookie. Scott has
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: put all this tape on then. But I could not
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: even bend it. But this was a false ligament. That's
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. They're putting a false liment on it.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: I could not even bend my leg, I mean not
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: bend it.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Sorry. There's a part of that game though, near the end.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I think that you track back and she just saw
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: the build up that you're talking about there. So I
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: didn't even know, but so the build up that just
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: epitomize it. And it was a motion.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I remember Alan launched Nipper and Knipper was very quick obviously,
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: and he's right through and I don't know what something's
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: happening at the bike l and I've got back and
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: got the tackle. So I got the tackle and the
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: hooked the ball away. But that's my knee opened up again.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: So for two and a half months, three months, I
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: could not even get in the car, that's how fragile
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: and he was. But I couldn't get in the car.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: After that, I couldn't even bend my knee. But I
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: can still say this day, I genuinely believe because I
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: had missed cut Fins and Big Bully and that were
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: very good with me.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: But they take it to the.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Last minute, and then they take my long sin and
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: say you know you're no fighting. I'd say I know,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: and I'd be distraughted. Tommy gave me the opportunity to play.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: He knew how much it was I meant to me
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: to play, and I say, this day, I don't think
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: any other management a game of that opportunity to do that.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: He was desperate for me to play, and I was
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: desperate to play. But I think he's through. He knew
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: he'd live. He was a teammating men and a parlet
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: min He'd seen the painted went through and the cup
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: finals had missed and whatever, and he thought to hisself,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give that opportunity. Maybe it was worth it.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: They felt it was worth it, and hopefully on the
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: day it was worth it. It wasn't the greatest game, as
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: you know about a long shot. You win it one now,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: well you see at the end of the game, people
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: see the tears.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: That's my last memory of that. So that's my first
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: bit of success. I'm nineteen at the time, but that's
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: my when people ask me about the ninety five it's
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: yourself promised day, Tommy Buns, Bully start. These boys were
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: used to it and all the winning and it was
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: six years. That was the most that's in my head.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing in the morning. The else, Simon
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Jack was that was the biggest thing for people say
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: it was tears that joined me. It was just tears,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: tears of relief. That was what was nothing else. It
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: was tears of a relief. I was an unbelievable feeling.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, well, like I laughed, I drink and whatever.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: That night.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I never touched it. I never touched that night because
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a Celtic player base celebrating every year,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: two or three things every year. And I realized that
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: time that Disney work that way. You know, Disney work
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: that way. There's no guarantee no matter what. And I
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: remember saying it myself, I'm not going to ever drink
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: that night, and I never touched one. I just sappy
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: a bottle of beer. That's what I left it to
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the summer in it because I wanted to remember that
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: feeling and how it felt to when I get one,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: because it was so so destroying.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Because that was that was the heart. Comic stays advice
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: to me to take the sun. And stupidly, nineteen, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: thought this was going to happen. There's only a couple one.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: That's when I made my debut. My life changed completely.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I made my debut against Rangers out of nowhere. I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: made my debut Eyebrocks, and my life changed completely. The
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: next day, you go out in the street and I
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's just because it was againstrangers. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: made my debut, but your life had changed. You're walking
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: down the street and people know who you are and
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you can't go on public transport again. You need to
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: do this, I mean never had any cars, how your
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: life changed. But also as a Celtic player, I thought, oh,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I won the championship my first year eight five eighty six. Yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: you know, it was really my first season. But I
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: missed the end of that, as I said, a couple
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: a couple of injuries. I had my calf and I
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: managed to play the game at Paisley. Come on in
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the game at Paisley. But you think, okay, well, win
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: trophies consisted. I'll at least one or two, as I said,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: every year. But the relief that day, it was tangible
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: in the respect, but not only for us as players.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You probably the more, there's nobody.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Of the happiest things was Tommy's and minds that deserved
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: much more than he got because the way he wanted
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: the mind Celtic and bring players like yourselves and we
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: play a Celtic People say the Celtic way. Yeah, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: attack and full back strikers who've got that wee bit
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: of guile, all that sort of stuff. He wanted all
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: that midfield players who could pass forward but do their job.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: You'd work hard as a team when.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: You're talking about that the guy for sure, but you
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: had that and that was important for him, and it
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: was so so important for us because that's what Celtic
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: was brought and it's a traditionally Celtic, you know, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: we all know that, and that enjoyment comes from that,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: but the pain it comes wait as well, and that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: why I think that particular day I always remember.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: It's quite weird. Actually I didn't feel it for myself. Surprisingly,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I felt for Paul. There was my roommate for nearly
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: fourteen years and Tommy it was one of my best pals,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: but then became my manager and it is so desperate
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: for them. He went Paul is the captain because I
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: always wanted to have my hero in mine to lift
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: a trophy as captain. That was so so important for
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: me and that's why obviously the Raythrovers giving the mister penalty,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: it was so destroyed. Maybe for him, it was so
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: destroying for me because I know how much it meant
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: to him and we've been pals for so long whatever,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So that Cup final that day was special for that
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Tommy as a manager, and it was just unfortunate we
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: lost one game in the league and we don't win
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the league.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on that so obviously ninety five
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: was that the Scottish Cup win and then obviously TV
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: brings in the Boys from Hood was the first one
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Andy tom the can you George Cadet? That was for me.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to win the league in ninety eight,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: but that for me was one of the most exciting
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: teams I played in that year. Talking about the one defeat,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but I never lost the game exactly, and it's.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Quite bizarre because I was excited going to the games
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: as a player. I felt like a punter going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: the games again. You know, I was driving along the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: London road as were dead and we went into the
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: old School in parkder Cars and that was outside.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: We were the only team. You know, it's only.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Celtic team that's ever got a standing evasion the end
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: of the season for wanting nothing. But I still think
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that was Tommy said the ball rolling for what's happening.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's what I feel, genuinely. You know, there was a
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: lot of work to be done, but I genuinely felt
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: at that particular time he set the ball rolling. This
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: is the Celtic traditions, this is what's expected of when
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: you played Celtic football clubs. You have to win trophies,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: You have to excite the fans, you have to have
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: shots and times, you have to get crosses, and you
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: have to go and tackle all these things. And he
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: tried to bring and it shows you. You talk about
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the big guys that came, they were all fantastic. The
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Cano excited me turning up to play along them, even
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: though he was the screwleers. But he was nan you knowmate,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Tommy shoved to the side.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Paul, do you end up the season?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: He couldn't English near Kadat difficult one and Tommy's and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: you need to learn them about Celtak and all that
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff. And he was a brilliant I loved
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: him to bits, I really did. But he was a special,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: special player. You talk about Canton, that man united, that
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: was the canal for Celtic. Somebody's built for that arena.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: That's what he was built for.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: The bigger the game, the bigger the occasion, you get
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the chest out, the gold abordeen and the gold boots.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm getting them dogs.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Abuse before, but now say you better play well in
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: it because it's the gold boots on the snore and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: all that. I said you've better have a good name.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I said, I'd love to be playing against you had,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: but you all over the park. But he pulls one
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of the on the goal, he goes out of the net,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know. The night that George scores the Abourdeen game
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: five five, the fact that five hour game, it was
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: one of the games. If you said everybody was above
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: an eight in that particular match, everybody played well above,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you know, and it was a fantastic performise. But the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: noise in the stadium was unbelievable, even though part of
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: it wasn't done. The noise was unbelievable. Radio five is
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: blue off their George scores his goal, and I just
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: think that group had it, and I genuinely do. There
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: was certain instance hard but because people talk about controversy
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: this season, God a mighty you talk about controversies this season.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, George never played for five games, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and it was found to be proven because the man
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: lost his job, so.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It was proven. But they were unbelievable, but you could
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: sense the support us.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing I'll take for that particular season in
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that particular group was fans were so excited to come
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and see the team, what.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: They're watching, what was entertaining, That's what I'm saying. Like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I get as many Celtic supporters come up to me
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: talking about that season as I do when we won it. Yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it was later because it's unprinted in their heads. Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it was exciting and good to watch. And I felt
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that playing in the team's one hundred.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, said that
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I was turning up and you know, excited to go
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and play the way I felt as a supporter company
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: watches great Celtic teams, That's the way I felt as
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a player. I can't e wait to Ganny whom I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: should we go on to win way sort of thing.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: You know, we drew a few games we shouldn't. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: drew obviously missed a few chances for certain incidents happen.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: But listen, that was meant to be. I have no
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: complain about it. I'd say people said about that decision. Listen,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I was meant to be and I have no complaints
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: about that. That was my time there and I love
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: to win more trophies. I had such a special bond
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: that use guys. But the rest of the guys that
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: have played along way, and I'm blessed to say they're
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: still pals of mine. Now, that's the biggest thing that
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you built for that team. Were real good team. We're
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: real good friends, and we're real good friends. Would followed
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: each other. They've seen it in the dress room. People
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: talk about the dress room and arguments. Now, god it mighty,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I said, only seem good job. There's no cameras nor day.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I respect absolutely the arguments of the fights, but it
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was forgot about within two seconds. If you remember, used
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: to go ind of the bottles of beer as we
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: come off the picture, there was six crates a lagger sitting.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: You take a bottle of being sitt down. The managers
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: get your dogs of this. Now they're getting all these
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: shakes and everything like that. But that built everything round
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: about us. You know, I think that built everything round
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: about is and mad is the guys were. And I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: also think it continues on to this day. When you're
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: in talking about your among Celtic supporters, what you're representing,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: talking to them about the games, they bring up, they
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: talk about times, day periods, they talk about work that year,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and that fills me prayed. Even though we never won.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I love to one more. There's no getting away from that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: People saying made you rather played put on one thing
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: for sure, But I love to have more badges. But yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think I could replace the time I had,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you know, the feeling I had, the enjoyment I had
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to playing with the guys everyone. I don't think I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: ever thought people listen, I had hate to be in
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: my teammate because you know yourself, I was a moaning
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: face on the training pitch, on the pitch the point
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that they said, but on the pitch and in training,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I was a moaning face. Get and I had hated
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: to play with me, you know, because I oh, you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. But that was the way I
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: was because it got be going. If you understand it
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: wasn't even criticize anybody else. But also knew that was
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: part of my strength. I knew for signing had to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: be a new but you had to be Jack. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: could organize. So I mean, if I looked after the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: bench manager shouting us off the bench, I never heard
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the manager.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I never even you a manager was there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: You know, Noney has looked off because when you and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: your head what her job was and I think that's
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing I could say all that group of
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: players for other boys that came through, there was some
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: fantastic players and that painted even though trophy wise it
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: was Beare, it was some fastic, fantastic players and fantastic times.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: More importantly, and I sitting there the day because of that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: because there's still a close bond. You would do anything
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: for anybody. Somebody phones will be there to help you whatever,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and I think that's more important. And that's when people
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: talk about the Celtic family or whatever. People don't understand
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it's not just a thing I throw lightly.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: People will say to need the Celtic support as a
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: twelfth man, I would say, it's the first man. His
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: name's in the back coming go, manager's coming here. Supporters
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: are always there. Is the great Tommy Buncey, you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and it's fact. Here's no getting away from that. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: to represent that, you've got to remember that, and it
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: takes a special type of character. I got a lot
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: of criticism. It wasn't easy to get in the pitch sometimes,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: it wasn't easy got about your bed at times because
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: of the criticism way heavy at times. But you had to,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you know, and I think that's what separates us. You know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: sometimes you've got to keep going and hopefully it makes
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: you something special in the rest of your life, not
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: just as a football but as a person.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: On that note, then, so ninety eight you left the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: club in ninety eight, what was your feelings end? I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: remember we were in Holland, weren't they. Yeah, it just
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: take me.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I'd made a decision. I'd already agreed to go to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Wolves really before I went pre season. Haven't been agreed
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: personal terms, how sustained everything Mark McGee's minds at the time.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Flew back home and then Marp's phone must have get
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: cut off because I flew back and that was the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: conversation went dead. And that was Henrik had just arrived
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: and I remember going, we've going to play Hubs. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: hadn't been at the training ground because mans had fell down.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I hadn't been in at the train ground. So I'm
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: in the house waiting to go to Wolves. Game comes.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Celtic lose the game one. Now I got a phone
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: calling the way back for one. I'm saying that you
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: need and I don't know if you're a member. It's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: quite bizarre. Actually played Parma and a friendly.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was a start. That was after the starting
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: in the Parama game.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: But after the start and I played Parma and he
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: told me after he said I would like you to stay.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I said no, No, I said, I've made my mind up.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Celtic meeting move forward. You just need to replace Peter Grant,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I said, Celtic and I've already made my mind up.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: But there was no boss rule and then so we
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Fergus was the usual was want to hold on and
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: ended up getting at four hundred grand for us. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: after in fact, there was a game said you scored
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the goal against St. Johnson in the cup game up week,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: so he said to me in the middle, he said,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you're you're going to be part of us, and he
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: said I'd love you. You're saying because you're different to
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: what I've got. They said, you play for me, I said,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I said, I hope this season. I said, but I
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: couldn't set up the stair at any time. I couldn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: be sitting on your bench. I need to play him, no,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I saw, but I'm no, somebody can sit in the stand.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I'm I didn't know that. Do you do you regret
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that because obviously went want to win the league. That
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: yet no, no, no, no, because I Celtic needed to
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: move forward and become champions again.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I need to do.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Celtic need to get ready pier Grant, and I don't
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: mean that disrespect for myself. The team had to move
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: all a change and I felt that, and to be fair,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I was swaying. When one came again. He was like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I need you. They said you're different, that we organizing
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the pitch and mother because I played really well in
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the part of my game and my last was his
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: number two. Play with that and d was a fantastic man.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: And I remember we played Saint Johnson Midba, I'm putting
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you on the bench. I went, okay, and he put
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: me on. But the biggest thing was before not that
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the Celtic fans behind the goal or chant my name,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: which I don't mean it, DiPT It was unusual they
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: were singing my name or whatever, and I felt so
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: emotional because they were talking to me leaving and I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: felt so emotional about it. We won a game one
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: now you scored the goal and one said to me
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: after it, you know, not having any second whatever. I said, No,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I said, I've told job Brown who it was to tell.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I said to Joe, let me know if anybody comes in.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I said, I don't know if this would thing's going
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: to happen. I said, I'm probably going to pull it myself.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Never made anything else because I've know the phone callar
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: flew home and I've not had I said, so I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: ready to knock in the head. Next thing is again.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I went in the next day and I got off.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You said you got a deal off. The Morris had
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: been in every day. I went no, I.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Said, I'll come in and do it a wee back
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: in the gym or whatever.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So I went in next day and I remember them
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: coming in and he said, then Joe Brown White, we said, listen,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you told me to keep you informed the teams.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It's interested.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: We said, it was the.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Phone called knowledge. If I agreed a fee, I know
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you'll probably not want to speak to them. I want
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I do, and to be fair, it strended the car
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I went was funny. It was funny at first. I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: got up off I was doing set ups and I
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: almost remember it and I went, want to be Angie, godressed,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I want to be Angie and I said him, Can
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I get my boots? S all right, car aunty sounds,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: where are you going? I said, I'm playing fives a night.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I picked my boots up, put them in the car,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and I remember driving down kerry Dale Street, looking back
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: my mirror and seeing Celtic Football Club. I was sobbing
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: because in my heart hearts that was me done. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: was thinking, this is my last time here. I'm locoming
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: back to this groove all the way to knowledge. Didn't
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: know what knowledge was getting down there at half past
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: three in the morning, and there reason a sight for
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: knowledge before anybody you was. The manager was Mike Walker.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Mike was sitting at a hotel still at half past three,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: waiting to make him money, and I thought he wants me,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and I went in there and I've done an exercise
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: to touch my toes. The next morning.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That was That was actual medical done.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And then I was a knowledge player before anybody knew
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: because the phone You never had mobiles really at that time,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: but the phone was blowing up everywhere and everybodys which
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm here, there's Peter Grant down there. And I made
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: my debut that Saturday for Knowledge at thirty two years aage,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: but it broke my heart. But I knew I was
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: leaving there. But one of the happiest times was is
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: you exactly what you spoke about?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And big Ewn Roberts, big Welsh and a national big
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Ewn first season had finished a week.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Before the Celtics season.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I'm more up for the last game of the season,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: could continue to win the league. Oh so I'm sitting
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: at director's box of big ew and Roberts. People say,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: do you feel a bit disappointed you on the part? No,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I just felt elated being a Celtic supporter
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and for all of the guys. I knew winning the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: championship again obviously stopped being just winning ten and obviously helped.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: But the fact that we were up there, I felt
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: so proud.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: No negative.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes people go in for you, I hope
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: they lose. I was a complete opposite because I was
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: a supporter and I was fortunate that way, and I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: was so proud of the guys on the pitch. I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: didn't know some of them. I didn't know some of them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I knew most of them, but I didn't know some
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of them. But I was so proud to be a
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Celtic supporter and the fact that Celtic were back winning
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: trophies again, and I was the lighter Philix who women
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: muddle on fortun it didn't last that long. We women
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: mudo one was brilliant and it was fabulous. Yeah, it
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: was fabulous, you know, but I never ever felt, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: that negative feel you would probably have in your stomach.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I was a complete opposite. I felt like a kid
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: at Christmas.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But their team would want the league again and all
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: us guys were having that smell on your feet because
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I felt that way. And I'm anty Glasgow after I
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: remember my car near enough getting carried into Glasgow. Big
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: You and Roberts couldn't believe it. The punters were in
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: my car and everything that as if I'd played in
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the game. You know, I probably cost him the one
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: that six years of the bounds. But it was special,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: special memories and that's that's what it meant to me,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you know. And then obviously after that you become a
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: supporter from Afar and it was amazing. When I went
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: to England, it was quite incredible. Like every place I thought,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I mean every place I turned up to, people were
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: outside the Celtic scarves, so on asking you saying certain things,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: and then that was a wee better realization came in
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: how much that club means to people everywhere I went,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I mean everywhere I went, they'd be hundreds of times,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: sometimes self never the game, on the game or whatever.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And really that was probably the first time it really
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: sinks in because when you're in amongst you, everything's there
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: having in front of you know what you're doing. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: when you move away for you and people feel the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: way they do a bit of the club, you're taking
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: standing backs. Well, how fortunate enough I was going to
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: be there for that period day time, and that's why
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I say I would never been negative about that period,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: even though I wasn't a great success, but I loved
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: every moment off it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Well, even a great teammate. You've been a brilliant guest
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. You didn't even bring up the fact
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that you outscored me one season.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Appreciate that always I scored.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: The gamest strangers even Well.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's it, you go, you know the rules. You've been brilliant.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the Pleasure guys.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Anytime you know that about Pleasure