Latest / Behind The Village Podcast / Preserving Veteran Stories Across 17 Countries | Zach Dunn
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- 0:02You're listening to the Behind the Village podcast,
- 0:04where we invite you to join us on a journey to
- 0:07understand how to live a life worth living. Our
- 0:11guest today is Zach Dunn from Global Veteran
- 0:14Stories. He started this passion project as a
- 0:16way to preserve the stories of Canadian and allied
- 0:18veterans and has now been able to interview over
- 0:21150 people. It's a race against time to capture
- 0:24as many as he can. I was cleaning out my parents'
- 0:31basement. They lived in Port Perry at that time.
- 0:34And I found a bunch of old boxes with some old
- 0:37photos and medals of my granddad, who I found
- 0:41out later who served in World War II. This is
- 0:44my mom's father. And I asked my mom, and she
- 0:47said he never talked about his time in the service.
- 0:49And he would have been 100 that year. And I thought
- 0:52to myself, there's got to be maybe other veterans
- 0:54around his age. I just want to learn a little
- 0:57bit more about him. asked all my aunts and uncles
- 1:00different things, different questions. And again,
- 1:02found my first World War II veteran in Lakefield,
- 1:04Ontario. And I said, wow, let's go interview
- 1:07him. I just brought my phone, my $20 tripod.
- 1:10I didn't even have a microphone at the time.
- 1:12I just used the audio on my iPhone and sat down
- 1:15with him for 45 minutes and recorded my first
- 1:17interview. And the idea kind of sprung to my
- 1:19mind. I said, wow, he's 95. He was 18 when he
- 1:23joined. There's got to be more veterans out there.
- 1:25And that just kind of kick -started this project.
- 1:28Since then, I've interviewed over 165 veterans
- 1:32from World War II, Korea, the Vietnam War, the
- 1:38Gulf War, and other wars and conflicts. Not only
- 1:41from Canada, but from 17 other allied countries.
- 1:46And I post all these on my website. I have a
- 1:48YouTube channel I started a couple years ago.
- 1:51I also donate the footage to schools and museums.
- 1:53And it's all about, again, educating kids on
- 1:55this important history. Each veteran gets their
- 1:58own dedicated video that I edit together and
- 2:01basically put a mini documentary together. And
- 2:03I post on my YouTube channel, Global Veterans
- 2:06Stories by Zach Dunn, as well as my website.
- 2:09Then I also get a TikTok page and a Facebook
- 2:12page where I post mini clips and full paragraph
- 2:15write -up stories. So it's all accesses, you
- 2:19know, for free. um you know so people can kind
- 2:22of search come across it and uh yeah people can
- 2:25kind of learn about these incredible veteran
- 2:27stories My favorite class or my favorite subject
- 2:30in school was history. That's the only one I
- 2:32got an A on. I was a pretty terrible student.
- 2:35But I've always been interested in history, you
- 2:39know, movies, documentaries. I like reading a
- 2:41lot of books. And, yeah, just kind of learned
- 2:43about, like, you know, even ancient Rome, ancient
- 2:45Egypt. But I think, yeah, especially World War
- 2:48II was really interesting, you know, to me. It's
- 2:51not that far root from us, you know, only 80
- 2:54years ago. 81 years ago now that World War II
- 2:57ended. So, you know, I always kind of had that
- 3:00connection. And then when I found out my granddad
- 3:02served, it was like, wow, this is really close
- 3:05to me. You know, it's, you know, two generations
- 3:06removed. And then I found out my two uncles also
- 3:10served in World War II. And then I had a great
- 3:12grandfather who served in World War I. And I
- 3:15have his medals, you know, displayed downstairs
- 3:18in my house here. So, yeah, I've always had interest,
- 3:21you know, since being a kid. But it really kind
- 3:23of kick -started. um a passion project in 2021
- 3:28and uh yeah I was 22 at the time so it's uh yeah
- 3:31been almost five years now wow that's amazing
- 3:34and you're just you don't get like paid for this
- 3:38this is just like a passion project you get funding
- 3:41like you're just doing it because you love it
- 3:42just doing it because I love it you know there
- 3:45there's some generous donations from you know
- 3:47family members or you know anonymous people online
- 3:50you know every once in a while but uh it's very
- 3:52rare So basically 90 to 95 % of my travels purely
- 3:58out of pocket. What is it about the stories that
- 4:01makes you want to keep going and to keep these
- 4:04people connected, you know, to the future? Yeah,
- 4:09I think it's because so many are still untold.
- 4:13You know, I just did an interview with a World
- 4:16War II veteran. He's going to be 104 this November,
- 4:20I believe. And he's from a small town in northern
- 4:24Alberta. And he now lives in Edmonton. And he
- 4:27served three, four years in World War II. He
- 4:30was in Italy. He served in Africa, Italy, France,
- 4:33Belgium, the Netherlands. And he's never been
- 4:37interviewed. So you think of a guy who was born
- 4:39in 1922, who has never, ever shared his story.
- 4:43There's still so many out there. that have never
- 4:46been shared, never open about their stories,
- 4:49whether they haven't been asked before or they
- 4:51just didn't feel comfortable. You know, there's,
- 4:54I think the government of Canada put out a post
- 4:58the other day, there's still 3 ,300 World War
- 5:01II veterans left in Canada. Is there something
- 5:03in particular, either a story or a piece of advice
- 5:07that stuck with you, kind of from everyone you've
- 5:10spoken to? Yeah, I think there's a couple funny
- 5:15ones and then a couple ones that I've really
- 5:18taken into my own life. I think staying active
- 5:20physically and mentally. Some of the veterans
- 5:24I've interviewed, again, they're over 100 years
- 5:26old. Audrey Hines, who's in Toronto, she's going
- 5:30to be 105. I think she already is 105. Her birthday
- 5:34was last month. She walks three miles every single
- 5:36day. I had 105. Every morning, she has a routine.
- 5:41She walks. There's that aspect, eating healthy,
- 5:45exercising, keeping your mind healthy. I think
- 5:48it's more of the mind, to be honest. There was
- 5:51a World War II veteran in North Carolina who
- 5:53I interviewed, Merle Jean Hughes. She said her
- 5:56secret to living over 100 years old was staying
- 5:59away from vegetables. She said she'd never had
- 6:02a vegetable in her entire life. So it's you know,
- 6:08there's there's different things, too. So walk
- 6:10me through the process of how you find the veterans,
- 6:13what your kind of day looks like. Yeah. And then
- 6:17kind of how you bring it all together in the
- 6:19end. So come interviews or veterans contacts
- 6:24come to me in a lot of different ways. Of course,
- 6:27I work with not for profits, museums or schools.
- 6:31But one of the best ways. People can get in contact
- 6:33with me. It's just reaching out to me on social
- 6:35media. Some of my favorite interviews have happened
- 6:39literally because someone watched a TikTok of
- 6:42mine and messaged me on TikTok. And then we scheduled
- 6:46an interview. Jack C. Thomas out of Blunt, Ontario.
- 6:50One of my personal favorite stories to share.
- 6:52His grandson, Brian, literally, this is what,
- 6:56November of 2024, saw a TikTok video, messaged
- 7:00me and said, hey. My granddad, our grandfather
- 7:02is a World War II veteran, did a little summary
- 7:05about him and said, do you want to interview
- 7:06him? Took a couple months going back and forth,
- 7:09and we ended up doing an interview. And again,
- 7:11his story was incredible. It's posted on my YouTube
- 7:13channel. He was shot down during the Battle of
- 7:16Arnhem. He was a D -Day veteran. And he, yeah,
- 7:21was a prisoner of war for eight months. So just
- 7:23this incredible story off of, you know, seeing
- 7:26a little TikTok video. Sometimes it's literally
- 7:28just from, hey, I read this. Facebook post or
- 7:31I searched something and I found this name, you
- 7:34know, have you interviewed so and such and such?
- 7:36And I said, yeah, here's more information. So
- 7:38I think technology is a great thing and the internet
- 7:42is such a great thing for that. It's just kind
- 7:43of connecting people. I talked about it a little
- 7:46bit earlier, but Joseph Ashite Hammond is one
- 7:50of the last, I think he is the last Ghana -born
- 7:54World War II veteran in West Africa. And he was
- 7:59with the Gold Coast Regiment who served in Burma.
- 8:02And the only way I was able to interview him
- 8:05was over Zoom. He was in a village in West Africa.
- 8:09I was in Toronto. And we were able to connect.
- 8:12Think about it. We were able to connect on these
- 8:14two laptops that his grandson set up for me,
- 8:17set up for him, and my laptop right now that
- 8:19I'm on right now. And I was able to speak with
- 8:22him for over an hour at 5 a .m. because there's
- 8:25a five hour time difference, 10 a .m. there.
- 8:28So I remember waking up really early and it was
- 8:31well worth it. But now I'm able to share that
- 8:34video, post it online so people all over the
- 8:37world now can hear his story. That's pretty cool.
- 8:42That, again, is something that technology has
- 8:45granted us the access to do. You know, I would
- 8:50probably never even talk to him, maybe over the
- 8:52phone. But having that like face to face contact,
- 8:56like that's something that we would never have
- 8:59even imagined to do even 20 years ago. Even the
- 9:05one in Edmonton that I mentioned earlier, you
- 9:07know, he's in a veteran hospital in very northern
- 9:10Alberta and I'm in southern Ontario. We're able
- 9:14to set up an iPad and a computer here and I'm
- 9:17able to talk to him. almost 104 years old, sharing
- 9:21a story about fighting in Italy at Monte Cassino.
- 9:24You know, again, I can mention other stories
- 9:26in Sri Lanka and India and the UK. Like, you
- 9:30picture how far that is from where we are right
- 9:34now, like thousands of kilometers across massive
- 9:39oceans. Yeah, it's incredible to think about.
- 9:46A question aside, because you keep impressing
- 9:48me with remembering names and birthdays and how
- 9:51old people are going to be. Is that just stored
- 9:53in your head? Absolutely. Yeah, it's a passion
- 9:58out of love. You think about sitting down with
- 10:01a veteran who's in their 90s, who's over 100
- 10:03years old. How can you not remember? I'm not
- 10:07saying I remember every single name, but I think
- 10:10probably 85 % of I can rifle off right away.
- 10:15Just because they've left, you know, that impact
- 10:18on me. Yeah. How could you not remember? You
- 10:22keep like pulling these names out and I'm just
- 10:25like, man, like do you have them written somewhere?
- 10:27Nope. I got no notes in front of me. So once
- 10:33again, once I get that contact from wherever
- 10:35it comes from, you know, I'll send them an email.
- 10:38We'll set up a call and say, hey, you know, I'll
- 10:40be there at this time. I always like to ask veterans
- 10:44if they have photos of themselves in uniform
- 10:46or even younger photos of themselves, if they
- 10:51have a Legion blazer with their medals on it.
- 10:54So if that's the way, it's a really good visual
- 10:56video. And, yeah, it's a really simple setup.
- 10:59I'm a one -man show, so I literally film with
- 11:01my iPhone. I have a $30 tripod I got from Amazon,
- 11:07a $10 mic. Just, you know, set them up in a chair.
- 11:11I'll sit in the chair. I have my little laptop
- 11:13and my questions. And then just, you know, it's
- 11:15question by question. I don't call myself a historian
- 11:18because I don't know. I don't know the regiment
- 11:20names or too much, too many of them. I don't
- 11:24really know dates that well. You know, I'm just
- 11:27just someone who's really passionate about asking
- 11:29questions and interviewing. I think that's more
- 11:31of my strong suit than, you know, in 1942 at
- 11:34this month and this year or whatever. What do
- 11:36you remember? Um, it's just more the firsthand
- 11:39accounts. So once I get all the, you know, the,
- 11:42the footage done, then I upload the, uh, you
- 11:46know, the footage to my website. I write up a
- 11:48whole blurb, um, about their story and edit together
- 11:51these videos. And, um, yeah. And then I donate
- 11:54all the footage to a few different schools in
- 11:56Toronto and museums in the U S and the, uh, in
- 11:59Europe that I work with. And, um, I got a few
- 12:02non -for -profits and that's, that's kind of
- 12:04it. And obviously I give a copy. of the interview
- 12:08to the veteran and the veteran's family and that's
- 12:12that's kind of the whole process it's uh getting
- 12:15the contact sitting down the veteran filming
- 12:17their stories and then sharing it you know to
- 12:19as many channels um as i can that's really cool
- 12:24so what i picked up on while you were talking
- 12:26was you know you mentioned you're not so much
- 12:28kind of dates focused but um it really felt like
- 12:32to me you're more impact and emotion focused
- 12:35like you're really trying to get the the story
- 12:38and the feel uh from who you're speaking to and
- 12:42so i was curious what it feels like for you to
- 12:43be on the other end of that when you're hearing
- 12:46them recount these stories and their lives from
- 12:50you know as far back as you know it was for them
- 12:54what is that like yeah sometimes it's incredibly
- 12:58emotional um there's been um Some interviews
- 13:03were, you know, I'll be honest, I was tearing
- 13:05up. Like, just the way that they describe their
- 13:09stories, you can tell that a lot of the times
- 13:12they're reliving it, as they tell you. You know,
- 13:17William Seyfried out of Guelph, Ontario, unfortunately
- 13:20just passed away a few months ago. He was at
- 13:23the Battle of the Shelt during World War II.
- 13:25And, you know, a very difficult battle for the
- 13:29Canadians. And he was in the infantry. And as
- 13:31he was telling the stories, he got really, really
- 13:33emotional. And, you know, I got emotional, too.
- 13:37So we were both sitting there crying a little
- 13:38bit. But sometimes, you know, you got to hold
- 13:41it together a little bit. But again, a lot of
- 13:44the times they're so emotionally fueled. I mean,
- 13:47you can see that they're, again, reliving it.
- 13:51And I'm a big visual person. So sometimes I can
- 13:54almost see what they're explaining. I did an
- 13:59interview. You know, again, a lot of different
- 14:03interviews where you can see that it hasn't been
- 14:05told in so long. And again, the emotions are
- 14:08still there. A lot of those stories come out
- 14:11in different ways. And the personalities of the
- 14:13veterans are completely different. And, yeah,
- 14:18it's captured in these incredible videos that
- 14:21I film. Are the veterans fairly open in terms
- 14:23of sharing their stories? I guess because they
- 14:25reach out to you mostly. I'm sure they are. But,
- 14:27you know, are people maybe a bit more reserved
- 14:29sometimes about sharing? Sometimes they are.
- 14:33And, you know, I've been very fortunate to interview,
- 14:36again, over 150 veterans now. But I have gotten
- 14:39some no's. And a lot of the times they say it's
- 14:42too difficult to say or, you know, it's too long
- 14:44ago. I don't want to talk about it. But some
- 14:47veterans, you know, take a little bit of convincing,
- 14:49you know, once you kind of get them on the phone.
- 14:51But I think I was speaking to a veteran the other
- 14:54day, and they said it takes between 50 to 70
- 14:57years for someone to open up or a veteran to
- 15:02open up about their time in the service. A Vietnam
- 15:05veteran that I interviewed in Barry on Saturday,
- 15:08he said it took 35 years for him to open up.
- 15:11So you think about that time, the weight that
- 15:14they were carrying for that long. With the World
- 15:16War II veterans, sometimes, you know, it's 70
- 15:18years at minimum. Korea, 50, 60, 70 years, same
- 15:24thing. And a lot of the times it's, you know,
- 15:2720 plus years, whatever it is. It's even just
- 15:29what I did. You know, a lot of the times they
- 15:33put their medals, they put their uniform, paperwork,
- 15:37they just put it in the closet and they forget
- 15:38about it. George Ferguson, he's in Orillia, Ontario.
- 15:43He just opened up about his time in the service
- 15:45in 2024. That's 80 years, you know, by the time
- 15:51he landed in Normandy with the Canadian Army
- 15:55during World War II. And so a lot of the times
- 15:58they're open, but a lot of times they're not
- 15:59because maybe no one has asked them. That's been
- 16:03the biggest thing. I've interviewed veterans
- 16:04and I say, you know, why haven't you shared your
- 16:06story? He said, I was never asked. And that just
- 16:09gives me goosebumps. I'm like, wow. That's, it's
- 16:13sad, but also exciting. Like, you know, this
- 16:15is the first time you're sharing your story.
- 16:17It's a lot of responsibility, I think. It is.
- 16:21Yeah. And what's the feedback typically, you
- 16:24know, once you've concluded your interviews and
- 16:27I'm assuming you chat a little bit after, you
- 16:29know, the cameras are off or is it because you
- 16:32mentioned the weight that they carry. I was curious
- 16:34if this is healing in a way for them or a way
- 16:38to process. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think it is
- 16:44really healing. There was, again, a World War
- 16:46II veteran interviewed in Brampton, Ontario.
- 16:49He's 103, never been interviewed, saw my name
- 16:53in a newspaper article and said, you know, I
- 16:55want to share my story with you. And he said,
- 16:57it's so, again, this weight off my shoulders
- 17:01or so relieving to share these stories because
- 17:03it's been built up for over, you know, 80 years
- 17:06or so. And his niece actually reached out to
- 17:10me to schedule it. And she was, you know, in
- 17:11tears when we when I sent her the footage. She
- 17:15was so thankful. And, you know, because in recent
- 17:18years he had some health problems, but he was
- 17:20quick as a whip and he was just amazing. What
- 17:22gets lost when veterans don't share or don't
- 17:27tell their story? Oh, wow. I think their names.
- 17:33You think about like, what is your name? Your
- 17:35name is your family name, but it's also like
- 17:38who you are and your story. I remember reading
- 17:44something online the other day. It was in someone's
- 17:46lifetime. Somebody dies twice when they actually
- 17:50die. And then when the last time someone ever
- 17:54says their name. So I thought that was a pretty
- 17:59interesting quote. So I think. What gets lost
- 18:03is who they are, who their story was, and what
- 18:07their story was, really. What they experienced,
- 18:10the life advice, the joy. Yeah, just what they
- 18:18experienced in life. I think that gets lost.
- 18:20And again, my interview style is I'm not just
- 18:22going to talk about the combat and the war. It's
- 18:25like, what was it like growing up in the Great
- 18:26Depression? What life advice do you have for
- 18:29kids nowadays? What did you do for fun? It's
- 18:32just like you're capturing who they are and what
- 18:37their life was in a 30, 40, 50 -minute video.
- 18:43It's difficult to do, but it's fun. Yeah, you're
- 18:48kind of recording a story that might never be
- 18:51shared or might never be seen by anyone until
- 18:54it's shared. It's like a race against the clock
- 18:56now. Did you have anything else you wanted to
- 18:59share? I think I just want people to be curious.
- 19:04If anyone listening gets one thing out of this,
- 19:07listening to this podcast, I think I want people
- 19:09to be curious, you know, whether it's in your
- 19:11life or about your own family history, you never
- 19:15know what path it might lead you down. Like you
- 19:19might have a famous painter or a famous, you
- 19:22know, athlete in your family that you never knew
- 19:24about. And now you have a brand new passion.
- 19:27to kind of pursue and now it's like a family
- 19:30heirloom. So I think I want people to be passionate
- 19:32or curious rather in themselves, in their family
- 19:37history and anything that they do because you
- 19:40never know what you're going to find. And ask
- 19:43your family questions. Ask your aunts and uncles.
- 19:45Ask your grandparents who hopefully are still
- 19:47around. Yeah, just sit down with them, learn
- 19:50from them. There's so much knowledge there that
- 19:52could be slowly slipped away if you aren't curious.
- 19:56You don't ask those. Ask good questions. Be a
- 20:00good listener. That's the skill I've learned.
- 20:02So I think it's a skill that you have to learn.
- 20:06And I think, yeah, try to be a good listener
- 20:10and ask good questions and soak up as much knowledge
- 20:13as you can. You never know what project or passion
- 20:16or hobby might come about. I actually encourage
- 20:20people to do what I'm doing in any other parts
- 20:25of the world. Because I'm not going to be able
- 20:27to save all these veteran stories. Their stories
- 20:29are important. They need to be shared. Anyone
- 20:32can do what I'm doing. And I really encourage
- 20:34people to do what I'm doing in their spare time.
- 20:38They don't have to interview 10 to 15 veterans
- 20:40a month like I'm doing. But, you know, one a
- 20:43month, one a week, one a year. That's going to
- 20:47be worth it 5, 10, 20, 30 years from now when
- 20:50these stories are not accessible anymore. If
- 20:55you know a veteran who wants to share their story,
- 20:57again, please reach out to me, globalveteranstories
- 21:00.com. I would love to be able to share their
- 21:03story. Thank you, Zach, for sharing your passion
- 21:10project with us. Preserving these memories of
- 21:12people who may not have shared otherwise is important,
- 21:15and I look forward to hearing many more. Thank
- 21:19you for listening to the entire episode. All
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