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- 1:32[SPEAKER_02]: you're listening to the Emerald Flow show on the voices of wrestling podcast network.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at the right back with Paul and I should clarify.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't had an episode in a while.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_02]: That was because we were going to come back after a couple of weeks.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_02]: Then I had a drama of like two and a half weeks without internet, which ended in switching providers and getting new internet that is actually much better so far.
- 2:18[SPEAKER_02]: So that is my story.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was kind of not so long that I actually took for them to like send somebody to you.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the like, okay, so like interact goes down, it happens sometimes.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, okay, maybe when I get up in the morning.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_02]: So once you get in that 48 hours, you're like, you call, they come out.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_02]: They try to figure out what's going on.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, no, well, the wire has been disconnected somewhere.
- 2:45[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to have to send a special team to fix this.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or it's the special team does takes for average schedule and they are just so opaque and hard to clarify and they told us days that they're going to come and they didn't come.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a rough and through it.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_02]: We just gave up with your hands and switched.
- 3:04[SPEAKER_02]: And we were like, this one was the one we had before was on the, is like, through the DSL phone lines, we got one through the cable TV lines instead and talk to the guy repair guy there and he said, Oh, well, some of the companies aren't really maintaining their phone lines these stage very well.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, great, as, you know, people are just moving away from it.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_02]: So they don't want investing that infrastructure that God knows who knows going to be using it in five ten years from now.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, that's why we swiss.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all the Canadian listeners out there could probably tell you all the stories about all the shit.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I have heard some horror stories about it before.
- 3:49[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't think like what we have here is ideal, but like, at least the lines of a thing.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you have more competition too.
- 3:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the thing is, the thing is it's actually like the lines, like there is actually only one provider for the like there's multiple providers that use the same lines, but like the lines themselves are still owned by Deutsche Telecom.
- 4:10[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that everybody, like basically the way it gets like liberalized the market, it's like no like telecom still owns like the infrastructure or the underlying infrastructure, but it's like they have to like let everybody else use.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_02]: But as like, yeah, the no one wants to invest in phone lines.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_02]: Any more, uh, which is there because we didn't have a home phone or anything with you.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_02]: My wife likes to have our cell phones and stuff like that.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's the case for most people that are probably under 45 these days.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_01]: And so, uh, I mean, when I got a contract with Telecom, they actually gave me a, like,
- 4:46[SPEAKER_01]: Home phone number, but not like I literally like I only got an internet contract with them.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get like a phone contract with them But they still gave me like a phone number, but like no phone to go with it because I think in this system I have to have a phone number for them to make it work like a home phone number.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so also as a result of this, I got very behind on my wrestling watching because I tried to start to stream things on my phone with my phone data
- 5:16[SPEAKER_02]: But then I quickly used up all of my phone.
- 5:20[SPEAKER_02]: I, uh, and I had to buy more phone data and buying more phone data is always expensive.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just like, I can't stream my guy.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: I need to keep this for the essentials and everything like that.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_02]: So I quickly fell off after trying to capture a couple of the audio pan shows that happened.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_02]: I quickly fell off and just stopped streaming and waited and I didn't watch.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_02]: The algebraic core can show until yesterday because up, you know, it's like things pile up and then I have a lot of where it's looking to watch and I have other things I've got to do so.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and hopefully when we return on our next episode, I have watched everything that is happening today.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_02]: But it should be fair.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of it is like non-essential.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine if you just Bayesian.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was just a lot short.
- 6:03[SPEAKER_02]: It's a quick succession that wasn't like super essential because like I felt like there was times ring the summer.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_02]: It was like there's nothing happening.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for weeks at a time.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that this has been a bit better than that, yeah, to be fair.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 6:16[SPEAKER_01]: Except that there's an entire show that I forgot to watch as well.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, why I just look for the luncheon.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't think I watched this show.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_02]: So just to start off, make a quick announcement.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_02]: I did a over three hour podcast of dealing of the Eastern Lariat on that was really something Eastern Lariat feed last night, going over the observer Hall of Fame for this year.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_02]: And we were talking about our,
- 6:39[SPEAKER_02]: So with my picks and just the candidates in general.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're interested in that, you could check it out.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_02]: We started off with Japan, obviously.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_02]: So if you can't last the three hours and don't want to hear about modern U.S. And more talk about like a Cody and CM Punk, you can, you know, just your pan part.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_02]: Everything like that.
- 6:58[SPEAKER_02]: We tried to just, well, we've done this, like, I think this is third year in a row doing the observed hallfame.
- 7:04[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we just sort of pick and choose what we want because chances are we
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: already talked about most of the candidates' improvements and everything like that and that's sort of what's going on like because in Japan there wasn't that much to even talk about new-wise and everything like that and once again I also made my big pitch for Tiger G Tsing and why you should vote for him.
- 7:24[SPEAKER_02]: He should be in.
- 7:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go back a bit all the way to October 13th in
- 7:35[SPEAKER_02]: which wasn't even the main event of the show because it was a death match title.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a death match title, not a death match, but a death match.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_02]: It was the main event.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_02]: But as a second and a half for the big Japan world strong, had you a title, so Demonji defeated Ditey Hashimoto in 2825 to win the title.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_02]: It win his first big title, his career.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_02]: How did you watch this match?
- 7:56[SPEAKER_01]: And no, I actually haven't watched this one.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_01]: I also haven't really heard great things.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was planning to, but then I heard it was just kind of mad.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked this match.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so enough now I do know that other people were not not it's high on it as I was I thought Dimonji looked real good and was really great and kept the match I mean it was 28 minutes and you see Ditey Hashimoto and you understand like okay fine, but I thought you know maybe a little dry at times but I thought that Dimonji kept the match going pretty well and I would say that
- 8:33[SPEAKER_02]: Daiti was like adequate and a little more motivated than average.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: So slightly above Daiti, which of course is not of course, you know, can't say he's like one of the grants with the southern planet, but he was somewhat motivated and I thought they actually did fill up the time.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a good little closing stretch there.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually really enjoyed this approach.
- 8:53[SPEAKER_02]: I think from what I've seen from big Japan this year, probably and that's not a lot, but I've
- 8:59[SPEAKER_02]: of the sort of title match and everything I liked it a lot, probably tied for Dutchies ring to come to an end because you had it like 161 days, you know, it was time and I'm really excited with what Dimash is going to do with it.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_02]: because I think you could actually definitely help reinvigorate that title.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, no, for sure.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think the amountious, the right guy to put it on, I think he's been the best guy.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's a regular, he's not signed.
- 9:28[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's like the best, like one of the best regular risks that they've had for like a while and so I think he's definitely like earned himself like this title.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it definitely makes me more interest to like actually check out some big Japan than I would have been with DIGS champion.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_01]: Because with Tai Chi, I know what I'm going to get.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, I'd recommend it.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not the only one that enjoyed it.
- 9:51[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, some people did think it was boring.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_02]: I can't deny that.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_02]: Sort of fact about everything.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess you'll just have to decide whether that match sounds appealing or not.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so we'll start real quick also why not talk about great all because of why not this great people are talking about great for all different reason.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_02]: The horrible attendance is what's the right is doing and of course the fact that we've got an upcoming match of Siwama versus Katsuhiko Nakajima.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the most important thing to be honest.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is a most important thing to be honest.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say, I am officially subscribed to the great YouTube channel, the actual like membership.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 10:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going to do that too for this show.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, I'm just going to be in and out.
- 10:42[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not.
- 10:43[SPEAKER_02]: Holden on this.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very much.
- 10:47[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I mean, I bought like first row, like tickets for the show in December, so I feel like I should at least.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_01]: You've really been a part of that.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't rule it there with that one.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_01]: I think I literally said in the middle of like the first row as well, so I think I'm going to be on camera the entire time, but luckily, nobody will see it, so it's fine.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_02]: So why not do a quick preview of the Boontai real quick?
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a battle royal that's on the pre-show that starts at 410 p.m. Japan time when the show starts at 5 and The participants in this battle royal are I've do the Kobao actually shoot you Chicago Raymoo in my who was in Alchipana a couple of years ago Taki Yuuki Yuaki quite storm Niko in burrari Brom and Kaye Brom and Chew Parker Brucho
- 11:35[SPEAKER_02]: More and go Miyaki.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_01]: What a... What a murderous role.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: People.
- 11:42[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, hey, I mean, I mean, I've been pack up withdrawals probably going home in that one.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably.
- 11:48[SPEAKER_02]: Well, who knows?
- 11:48[SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like if she was out, is he...
- 11:51[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no.
- 11:51[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's true.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I forgot that she must leaving.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, she must let go on like that guy.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_01]: It's not getting fucked anymore.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_02]: So we got a couple.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that's just, it looks that sweet, you know, versus Tomahito Miziguchi and dear God, you as you go versus Yoshinari Fukushima and I'm just worried about poor Zuka.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't know what you're talking about for himself yet again.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a full-on like it's getting embarrassed kind of deep.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he might lose up, but not quite as bad.
- 12:21[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's going to lose of me.
- 12:23[SPEAKER_01]: He's a young guy in grade.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_01]: Of course he's going to lose against, like, their suit.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have a, a little debt, you know, you're off match real, I talk about versus Hidecki, Shrek Sakeen.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have Black Generation International versus CPF,
- 12:42[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know who that is.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: Some of their foreigners, I don't know what the, yeah, they're British.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're British.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_02]: So Kaito is she to some, Astonane Cosmos talk about, oh my god, so I'm a joint black generation international.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I missed that.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so versus Dio Lando, Danny Black, and Maverick Mayhew, we have an evolution title match.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_02]: Zones will be defending the title against Michiko, which actually has a chance of maybe being the Southern or the best match of this show.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_01]: We should probably actually looking at this card, yeah.
- 13:12[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we got a special tag match, T-hoc in Nehoki, Tanazaki versus Takahiri Yamamura and Shigiri, Hohiri.
- 13:18[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 13:18[SPEAKER_02]: That can be good.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_02]: Then we got Junji, Minori Tanaka, and Katara Suzuki versus TJP who hopefully pushing there.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: Rayuchi, Shaman, Kawakami, and brass knuckles.
- 13:29[SPEAKER_02]: A higher than Tamura is returning, and Chakshimataan is leaving great, but I think he's like
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he isn't dribbly already.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's been talking about, let's be kind to and to Kruma.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tacoma, so yeah, no, I think they also like he might actually be signed to WWE, you know, so.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, under one of the AAA contracts.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_02]: But so that's what that's all about.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_02]: So we can figure out who's going to win that one.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_02]: And the semi mate final, which is really the draw for me here.
- 14:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's a G per wrestling special single match.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not for the the debt UWF title.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_02]: But Katsuhiko Nakajima versus Suwama.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_02]: And in the angle leading up to this day, they did the Nakajima Kento angle at the cork in and Suwama slashed some flowers over Nakajima's head.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wonder if they asked Kento first, right?
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's weird that Suwama is redoing the angle that Kento did, that Nakajima did with Kento, but then Kento told them to like kick rocks of all different tools into kick rocks.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, perhaps or it or it is obviously something else but what do you think it is actually leading to Ken Toe coming in?
- 14:48[SPEAKER_01]: Or Dr. Dubak coming back?
- 14:51[SPEAKER_01]: Nah, like again, and I feel like it would have already done that with real world tagly.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, like Suva must basically like out of all the patterns for the most part.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_02]: So Suva went here and then Dr. Dubak went to the lead that you don't really have title match?
- 15:07[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably, I mean, it's not very exciting, but you know, you might be seeing that match.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know what, I'll take it.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_01]: I will definitely take that as a single smash like in Shinjuku face like absolutely.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_02]: I think so far, I could do a huge very rough rules match.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he would be good at it too.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, so that's going to be
- 15:29[SPEAKER_02]: I will see, but of course this being great, this could just be swallow winning and then it being dropped.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that could also very much be the thing and when it's just never talked about again.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the main event for the G-Rex Championship match, Al Lindemann versus Schema, because Al Lindemann recently won the title.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_02]: And they're very weird angle, Lef Schema.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Nakajima only got had won the title too, and then only had one defense.
- 15:58[SPEAKER_02]: Which is sort of like, well, that's interesting.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's up with that for him to just hold that sort of work time.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, it sort of set off my radar of like, what's going on with Nakajima?
- 16:10[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I don't know, but yeah, this angle and it sounds like she must leaving after his contract is up in December.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what I understood it as?
- 16:18[SPEAKER_01]: No, so it's weird in that.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, Lindenman challenged Schema.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't that Schema challenged Lindenman, Lindenman won the title and then challenged Schema and then Schema comes out
- 16:34[SPEAKER_01]: And like Shah's Lindemann and I cut like a weird promo and then like put stuff out on social media where he's like He basically like makes his own stipulation where like the loser of the match leaves great like immediately And then recently great put out an announcement that actually Shima may have said that the loser of this match like
- 16:58[SPEAKER_01]: leaves great immediately, but she must contract a still running until the end of the year.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like, actually, you know what, it's even wider because basically they said, like, oh, she must set his leaving after the show, but actually it's contract is running until the end of the year.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to hold them to that, which in a way, they spoiled what the results of the match is going to be.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_01]: by doing that.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, yeah, I don't know if there's like a weird route shoot of Sheema, it's like actually pissed off.
- 17:26[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's a mess.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_01]: Basically.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_02]: That is a mess.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_02]: Very, very great for them, just to interfere with the booking like that, right?
- 17:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's also the thing of Shima being like, oh man, like, I wonder why like greatest in the toilet.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, she might sure, well, trying to find the guy with the stick.
- 17:47[SPEAKER_02]: Well, do you see that one?
- 17:48[SPEAKER_02]: They had a house of that, like, you like, a hundred and twenty-five.
- 17:50[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, like the guy that was there was also, like, it gets getting really hard to, like,
- 17:56[SPEAKER_01]: Support us promotion.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, he blamed the management.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_02]: I saw the tweet.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's not what he's been and he blamed the management not the wrestlers But that I mean, she was man is but yeah, that's the thing.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_01]: She must manage She I'm pretty sure he was the booker as well.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, that's very agile.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_02]: So probably doesn't really know I mean, that's very old and no amount of minorities in aqua or kioshy tamar or we can chose you also
- 18:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, they're not coming through that door.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_02]: No, so this company is what it is.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_02]: It really does feel like it's in a desperate.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they haven't known states for January.
- 18:37[SPEAKER_01]: So like the December show isn't going to be their last show.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's confirmed now, but still.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_02]: This feels like a very weird.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_02]: This feels like a company that's going to like, they want to make it look like the ARR company that is driving and moving forward.
- 18:51[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, you're just going to wake up one day and you're going to
- 18:54[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it's not it's not even going to be like a rest of one thing where like they at least announce like a final show or whatever.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be gone one day.
- 19:03[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what?
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, that is not most likely outcome for them.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they just run.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_01]: We ran out of money, bye.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_02]: So in terms of going over Noah, which
- 19:19[SPEAKER_02]: I only watched, so Monday, Magic episode one, or season one, Magic Stream episode one.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to say that I quite enjoyed the Mari Gold versus Marvelous match on that show.
- 19:31[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was the best, and also the three-way tag with Titus Alexander Starboard Charlie, versus Dragon Man in Upper Wolf, and then Jack Morris and Danny Dungen.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_02]: I was actually that you enjoyed.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_01]: I mean the thing I have to say with Danny Doug and on that though like the ring roast is very obvious like like I enjoyed that match as well But like he was like bits lobby with some of his stuff as well Then maybe the only other thing I want to like comment on is like the what are your thoughts on the on the Barcelona guys because I had never like seen them before and Yeah, I don't think I'm very impressed I have to say
- 20:05[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're very green and they just don't really stand out and stick, no, that's because we had looks as well.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had gear choices.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be wired with all these Spanish wrestlers being all skinny.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe that's like, healthy, like diet or something, like it's, like especially that from Barcelona as probably like a lot of fish.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_02]: And the main event, I mean, properly offensive, but it was just a very difficult package.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_02]: F.D.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_02]: F.D.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_02]: Metters always.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_02]: Russell Odyssey.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_02]: Now you covered it on Russell or Macauze, wrestling or Macauze?
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_01]: I already talked about it.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_02]: So my thoughts, I don't know.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_02]: Like I showed that was like a six, maybe a six point five at best.
- 20:47[SPEAKER_02]: That's, but obviously, the junior tag title match, but I also enjoyed Charlie Demcy and Augustus Saki trading holds.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_02]: That was fun.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, definitely.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_02]: And Kazu Fujita versus Suzuki better, but I also laughed when the result happened.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_01]: But again, what else could it have been?
- 21:06[SPEAKER_01]: Like this no way this was going to have like an actual result.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_02]: It's the town of Hashi farewell to Noah was a nice fun full match and town of Hashi do the right thing and like Q and you get the wind back.
- 21:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_02]: And then the junior heavyweight title.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the second best match of the show.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_02]: I think some people were down on this.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_02]: I generally enjoyed it.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was as good as the tag, the junior tag, but I would say why if you sort of think about it, there was
- 21:40[SPEAKER_02]: concerns about the expectations given how.
- 21:42[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Harom was motivated and Ada is about his motivation.
- 21:45[SPEAKER_02]: I was so I thought they did well.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, you know what, uh, on Oma Kasey, which mantra I compared this one too weirdly, does he click the summaries that remind of me of it, and remind of me of the Eugene Nagata, uh, Shudji Ishikawa triple crown match.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_01]: Because it kind of was like the ending sequence of that was kind of like that where it just kind of like traded like bombs basically just without like five minutes like lying on the floor after that.
- 22:13[SPEAKER_02]: I think the main event was the main event.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it ended well, but I thought it showed its moments, but between the interference and the stupid, you know, more stuff.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 22:25[SPEAKER_02]: could not go much higher than like a, you know, a three and a half or something like that.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, I mean, I'm very much pro, you know, more, I think you should win the title, but I'm also looking to say about this character and all this is a Mac that is a very weird thing.
- 22:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know, it's like I hated the whole angle.
- 22:45[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just stunk of like WWE stuff.
- 22:48[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, pure WWE angle.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've seen people actually like theorize that this is like leading to him turning yield and joining team to thousand eggs.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_01]: But like that doesn't, I mean, again, I guess I'm trying to apply logic to a promotion.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's very often doesn't apply logic.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_01]: But like to me, that doesn't really make sense.
- 23:06[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why wouldn't he have just helped, like, keep the mirror when then if he was just going to like turn on candle later?
- 23:13[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where this is going.
- 23:16[SPEAKER_02]: I just
- 23:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's see.
- 23:21[SPEAKER_02]: So Paul, what of nowhere did you watch after that?
- 23:25[SPEAKER_01]: So I watched the Currican Hull show, and then I watched a final Monday magic show because I forgot to go back and watch episode two of Monday magic.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was a one with the Digi.
- 23:36[SPEAKER_02]: Appearance was it not?
- 23:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that was the one with the Digi appearance.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_02]: So what did you think of the Currican Hull show?
- 23:42[SPEAKER_02]: Because it was a 108 fans, and it's really
- 23:48[SPEAKER_02]: I was always doing, but also, you got to give me a title, a bigger title.
- 23:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the other thing, like that, like leaving the national title off of, like, breast law to see, didn't, like, benefit them in any way, and yeah.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_01]: this distance didn't really work after.
- 24:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think people just weren't really interested in much for what was shown here.
- 24:11[SPEAKER_01]: I think to show itself was fine for the most part, I think the things were mentioning, I mean, first of all, like, Loll Junter, like,
- 24:21[SPEAKER_01]: stepping up to like your own move and being like I want to try the challenge and you're almost like well you need to earn it like face me in like hurricane hall and then losing in under ten minutes uh i mean but to be fair i mean right after that they also made it very clear that like Junter is like yesterday's news which is again little weird with a guy that is only 28 but because afterwards tight uh
- 24:44[SPEAKER_01]: and day announced that they were going to have like the junior leak coming up as well.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like first round it's going to be hero mode versus junior versus uh
- 24:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really looking forward, I think that's going to be a great match.
- 25:00[SPEAKER_02]: Then I will say, though, it's nice to see that they're actually, obviously, Diky wins a title really soon.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_02]: It was clear.
- 25:07[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm happy with how fast they're pushing him.
- 25:09[SPEAKER_01]: He deserves it.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_01]: He was in need of it.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_01]: Again, because I always thought we needed to dream deadly, so it's like we could go between until they're ready to push Diky.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_01]: But like, if they're ready to push Diky now, then,
- 25:20[SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe he's got to do it.
- 25:22[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not a judgment for drinker, but like sometimes, you know, the chance doesn't come.
- 25:28[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
- 25:29[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's still going to be a big piece.
- 25:31[SPEAKER_01]: He's still going to be like a part of the drinker division, obviously.
- 25:33[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I think his chance to like be the top kind of division.
- 25:36[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's don't know probably to be quite honest.
- 25:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: Feels like it.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess you know what maybe you shouldn't heal.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see what it would be like at least maybe that's Maybe that's like going to reinvigorate them, but yeah, otherwise I didn't draw a kind of versus Charlie as well.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of exactly what you thought it would be.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_01]: We were like both them are really good like technical restless So they had like a really like I don't think it was amazing.
- 26:04[SPEAKER_01]: I think some other people were higher on it and me as well I thought it was like a really solid fuck like
- 26:08[SPEAKER_01]: match, but it wasn't like a blow away match at the same time, just really got solid technical wrestling.
- 26:16[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed, I really enjoyed Dragonbaid with Scalaino.
- 26:20[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little surprised that Dragonbaid won the title here, but I mean, then afterwards, it looks like Galenos now going to AAA as we kind of hop back to to happen.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought of what happened next year.
- 26:33[SPEAKER_01]: Not this year already.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they just called them and said here come come yeah, and it feels like basically like a Leno like the Elena title right was also weird like I don't think I don't think it was like I don't think it was bad, but it was just I don't know it was just man things to be Yeah, describing it like I would actually argue that this was like the best match of the entire rain ironically enough Okay, but I think pain kind of carried a good chunk of that as well just kind of getting tossed around and everything
- 27:04[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that really helped, like, and then Galileo being, like, to base for pain, I think they had, like, pretty good chemistry there.
- 27:12[SPEAKER_01]: And now, yeah, I'm looking forward what Peyton can do with the title.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, they're going to do, like, I did, like, that they didn't, that they're not immediately going to, like, the obvious, like, brother versus brother match.
- 27:24[SPEAKER_01]: But, like, they're teasing it and everything.
- 27:26[SPEAKER_01]: And it's obviously a thing, like, I expect that to be on the Buddha control.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say brutal calm.
- 27:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 27:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like he's going to get like a defense like in between and everything.
- 27:37[SPEAKER_01]: So I did like that.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's not like the first defense.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like it's obviously the match you want to do on like a big show.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that's going.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_01]: And that's going to be wild as well.
- 27:47[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you give those to a title in Buda can like a single title match, like they're going to go absolutely fucking nuts.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_01]: Like especially if it's the national title.
- 27:55[SPEAKER_01]: So like in my legit be like semi main or third from the top.
- 27:59[SPEAKER_01]: like they're just going to go balls to the wall.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_01]: Like they might do the Koda Bushy thing and like jump off the stance and get paned.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_02]: And what do you think of the main event?
- 28:12[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the main event, uh, again with fine.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was also really like the debut of the, like, you're seeking a number of smack daddy character, which literally has smack daddy on his ass.
- 28:25[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 28:27[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Harlem Lewis is just an absolute nothing, just a system trained wrestler that decides through.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_01]: He's a little janky, but I think he's perfectly adequate.
- 28:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but again, I mean, yes, because that is also literally the minimum that we could expect from like the biggest promotion in the world to like train their restless to be, is to be perfectly adequate.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_01]: So, what I like that's for being fresh.
- 28:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I also don't really see like much like potential there if that makes sense.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because like one of the guys that I like kind of raw, you see like they take could be like something more and don't really see that with them.
- 29:03[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'd say this about him.
- 29:05[SPEAKER_02]: If he wanted to actually shine and stand out, I think you'd have to go outside of the system.
- 29:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, absolutely.
- 29:11[SPEAKER_01]: So like doing something like this, I guess it's good for him as well, but like probably needs to do that more regularly, but yeah.
- 29:31[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think he's going to ever be accompanied to the ring by Shawn Michaels and these matches?
- 29:37[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, I hope, no, I don't know what I would do for that, that's not an oven.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe they're going to do that on the boot of Ken.
- 29:48[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get to it more in a second, but I guess what are your impressions of this fact that it's funny because you were saying, like, oh, I think the WWE just a month or two ago we're saying, I'm putting it in the WWE really just to be doing this just wait and see and turns out, yeah, yeah, it's stronger than ever apparently.
- 30:07[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, because oh yeah, that the one that I actually forgot to put on the run treat is there was actually like a Sunday a sunny voyage So where you had the debut of Hank and tank.
- 30:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, oh, they and they're got a big match for the two in a second.
- 30:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you watched the final money magic show
- 30:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, on that one yeah, I did like the I did like the women's title match I can't really say it was a great match because I think it was too short
- 30:39[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's in 10 minutes down 45?
- 30:41[SPEAKER_01]: Less than 10 minutes, but like to call me having the title I think it's again, like I think that's the right choice.
- 30:49[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise like the match like itself was really really good.
- 30:51[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely enjoyed that.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was like the best match of this entire like run of like Monday magic.
- 30:59[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
- 31:01[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other thing is because like,
- 31:04[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, well, I guess maybe the magic rumble.
- 31:07[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was a rumble match.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of mad.
- 31:09[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of like, what this showed much of me is just kind of key a mere just being like absolutely nothing right now.
- 31:16[SPEAKER_01]: Just like just kind of getting like eliminated pretty like unceremoniously from the match.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even the like it wasn't even that it came down to
- 31:30[SPEAKER_01]: Freeway, like, the GHC hardcore title match, that was like, again, I don't like, I think I've made it very clear multiple times.
- 31:38[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like these matches.
- 31:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's even worse if it's a freeway, so yeah, I didn't like this.
- 31:43[SPEAKER_01]: Really, I don't all thought it was pretty just meandering.
- 31:47[SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards, we actually had Titus Alexander, challenging Hayata for the title for like, when for like the next season of Monday Magic,
- 31:59[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was going to say Titus tweeted out, like, see you in January, Japan.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: Bye for now.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_01]: He literally said it on the promo as well.
- 32:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 32:09[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's not going to happen until, like, I think I actually looked it up.
- 32:13[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm actually like flying out the day this, like the, like, first Monday magic shows actually happening.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 32:21[SPEAKER_01]: I think I just missed just about all of it yet because I think I think actually when the season finale is it's like when I'm flying back to Europe.
- 32:29[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we'll just do a quick preview here for Saturday, November 8 at the cork in hall.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_02]: We have a six rate tag badge.
- 32:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, me too much food.
- 32:38[SPEAKER_02]: You can't own Jack Morris versus Ketokimia Harutoki in Mohamedyona, Jack Morris is still around.
- 32:44[SPEAKER_02]: Interestingly enough, we got it.
- 32:46[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, this point is not leaving like at this point.
- 32:48[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
- 32:49[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of felt like maybe that and one was a possible farewell.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know, maybe W's just not interested, and maybe he's just happy sticking with Noah.
- 33:00[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I mean, I'm not complaining, but
- 33:03[SPEAKER_02]: And just, well, related, I glue a block and Mike DeVecchio have been officially unveiled as sign.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_02]: And they immediately took the mask off of Ila Broncliffe.
- 33:15[SPEAKER_02]: Of course they did.
- 33:17[SPEAKER_02]: We have a three-way tag bag, dragon, vein, and alpha wolf versus me, it was so in Saxon, Huxley, and Lucas and Saki Int.
- 33:23[SPEAKER_02]: Ted, so you endo, someone might pin bane hands, like a title shot too.
- 33:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just get the, but this is also very much.
- 33:30[SPEAKER_01]: I like get everybody on the card kind of match too.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 33:33[SPEAKER_02]: So the Noah Junior Grand Prix first round, Junta versus Kai Fujer Moray.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_02]: Junta's got to win this one, right?
- 33:39[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_01]: I like, after what has happened recently, like, I don't know, this just feels like maybe they're going to give Kai like an upset win, but like, probably Junta, yeah, I can't do my head.
- 33:51[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, we can figure the winner of this one.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_02]: Shudgy condovers is black, man, so Ray.
- 33:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I mean, Shudgy condos gonna win that.
- 33:58[SPEAKER_02]: So because basically, we've got Ninja back versus Alajadro, Ninja back is back because he got budget-cutted out of New Japan.
- 34:06[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 34:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 34:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we assumed that last time, but again, the only ever gave him that one, well, it didn't even give him a title reign.
- 34:23[SPEAKER_01]: He won the title by accident, and I never put the put him anywhere near the title again.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_01]: So we shall see if they will actually push him.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_02]: And then, Karoma versus Deque or Shima.
- 34:32[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's circle that one.
- 34:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 34:35[SPEAKER_02]: And then for the cheat, she take to championship.
- 34:38[SPEAKER_02]: That's what could have been to
- 34:41[SPEAKER_01]: Also, very nice, that like, segura and, like, Kitamiya finally, like, found the tag belts again.
- 34:48[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you know how long it has been since they've won these titles?
- 34:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably longer than I think, right?
- 34:53[SPEAKER_01]: They won them at the beginning of August.
- 34:55[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't defended them since then.
- 34:57[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, geez, yeah.
- 34:59[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they had the end one in there, but, yeah.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_01]: It's still, like, it could have done, like, a title match, and, like, the lead-up to, like, the sumo-hot, like, free months isn't saying.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_01]: The third of the, that's a quarter of the year.
- 35:12[SPEAKER_01]: It is best to have been dependent at all.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_02]: The thing is, if you actually go back and look, Japanese remarks is getting into a regular defense schedule, as we know it now.
- 35:21[SPEAKER_02]: It's a more recent development.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_02]: If you go back long enough, you will see some very large, like a three month gap is very,
- 35:31[SPEAKER_02]: very common for title differences.
- 35:33[SPEAKER_01]: Back in the hate me, yeah I used to be put again like them generally were pretty like reliably like defending these belts like at least like once a month or so.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_01]: And again maybe you draw better like maybe draw more than 800 people in Korkin if you know you put like a tag title match on there as well.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah exactly.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so uh, what did you have to hand you take winning?
- 35:54[SPEAKER_01]: That's always a problem with this WV guys, right?
- 35:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, because the can't, I don't know, but it's hand can't hand.
- 36:00[SPEAKER_01]: And again, like, to tell me, and to girl, I haven't even defended the titles.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it literally, like, it's a, like, it's a V0 defense that makes them, like, again, you just had to hit a Mia challenge for belted Sumahol that makes him look like shit if he just loses to, like, to, like, like, unknown, what to, like, the Japanese audience is, like, two unknown newcomers.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody in Japan watches NXT.
- 36:22[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knows who these guys are.
- 36:24[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, the match proved that nobody knew they were.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_01]: They got no reaction.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like it could happen.
- 36:31[SPEAKER_01]: Can I say, I can't rule it out.
- 36:34[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, yeah, definitely that's definitely not going to get me excited for like, put a couldn't.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the main event for the GHC Heavyweight Championship,
- 36:49[SPEAKER_02]: Already leading up to this, but what do you think?
- 36:51[SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about this?
- 36:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm leaning Kent as running.
- 36:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 36:55[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know if in a mirror I have it.
- 36:58[SPEAKER_01]: But then should I also don't try?
- 37:00[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, but that they should have tried years ago.
- 37:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like it feels like it's already like, it feels like it's too late already, you know?
- 37:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 37:10[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like, I feel like if they would have wanted to like put the bells on it.
- 37:14[SPEAKER_01]: And he should have done it.
- 37:15[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be 33 on November 8th.
- 37:18[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean.
- 37:19[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not like he's like, you know, a young guy really anymore, yeah.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like if anything, like I feel like the moment to put the belt and him to see like to do that one with him to see if he has anything.
- 37:33[SPEAKER_01]: Like what have been when you had that match with Kaito last year?
- 37:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it would have been.
- 37:38[SPEAKER_01]: And he felt like so much like more important than he does now coming back.
- 37:43[SPEAKER_01]: Despite the fact that they're pretending that he's a bigger deal now because he was on like NX.
- 37:49[SPEAKER_01]: But again, like that return last time, like that got so much right like because you could see it in a difference of reaction as well.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_01]: Like the reaction he got last time when he like returned and challenged kite and the reaction he got here like at Sumahal.
- 38:03[SPEAKER_01]: That reaction last time felt much bigger than the day, like, pure.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_01]: And it did at the semahaltro.
- 38:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_01]: Say, I just don't know.
- 38:12[SPEAKER_02]: Also, when you do a return, you just have them come out instead of like, coming out of the house.
- 38:17[SPEAKER_02]: You can't see tell who it is and everything like that, right?
- 38:19[SPEAKER_02]: So that's it.
- 38:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's it with the pop.
- 38:21[SPEAKER_01]: but still like I don't know and I just don't know if the promotion like there's never been anything that tells me that Noah sees this guy as like a main eventor or at least or like as a guy that should like carry the belt and not just be like you know they're like flavor of the month
- 38:42[SPEAKER_02]: Right, yeah, I mean, they're giving him all of this.
- 38:47[SPEAKER_02]: That feels a little more than flavor of the month by.
- 38:50[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, like, I'm leaning, like, can't ask when in the title, but I feel like, like again, I think again, the right moment to put the title on him was last year, but it's also feels like if he's not winning you, then he's just never going to win this title.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_01]: He's just done.
- 39:07[SPEAKER_01]: Getting Jacob.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically.
- 39:09[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
- 39:10[SPEAKER_02]: I'll hold that hope just because with Osawa, although he's not going to be out that long, he could be very well-being back with Buddha Khan.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like there's, yeah, he's spinning its wheels without him.
- 39:21[SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy because I mean, look, I mean, he's in critical town, although I had my very significant criticisms, but he does leave a very
- 39:28[SPEAKER_02]: Knowable void and they gotta do something because they don't have anyone else and they may not have some About you guys in the dojo.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine, but you still need guys now.
- 39:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, and I mean, he's also obviously like I think they might actually delay his face turn up But now as well Because like the whole thing he's doing right now is so obviously like over the top that is he's definitely still going to be a heal when he comes back I mean, maybe they should just wait till a while to return to do that turn
- 39:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, probably yeah, but yeah whenever that is all right.
- 40:01[SPEAKER_02]: So that's no answer we move on to ultra pan pro wrestling.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_02]: And so what I did see was at the on October, I'm like if that guy owed a green arena in front of 1,000 11 fans, which honestly that's pretty good.
- 40:12[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for this actually not like this was an amazing card either.
- 40:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 40:16[SPEAKER_02]: No, look, I'm just going to, I can barely remember these early match on the film, just skipping to the fourth match.
- 40:24[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about the top three matches, Chotaro Shino and X, Chotaro don't need to be go for Shiozaki to get a little bit of an Edecki Suzuki when Haru is disqualified for kicking too much ass.
- 40:37[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not going to the chair.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 40:39[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, I mean, I feel like it's too late to like go in depth, shocking, go junk.
- 40:45[SPEAKER_02]: and everything like this.
- 40:47[SPEAKER_02]: But this is always to me the most likely place he was going to end up.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_02]: And so what were your initial impressions real quick?
- 40:55[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to more go later.
- 40:57[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, yeah, I made sense of go drum, but I think he's a weird fit with like havoc, terms of like, like I don't know, in terms of vides, I don't think he really fits very well with them.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_01]: like he's just like that he's did the jock faction and like I don't know go never like struck me as like a jock basically so from that from that aspect that's kind of a weird fit I mean otherwise I think it makes perfect sense for him to be an older pen I think he makes the promotion better like instantly
- 41:30[SPEAKER_01]: So from that aspect I think it's like I think it's definitely a mass of plus for the promotion because it gives them something like much needed depth as well.
- 41:38[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they've got go and they're in.
- 41:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 41:42[SPEAKER_01]: And like a motivated boat as well.
- 41:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 41:44[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's really good.
- 41:46[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
- 41:46[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, you know what?
- 41:47[SPEAKER_01]: No more, I actually would have been a better fit for havoc.
- 41:50[SPEAKER_01]: You think so?
- 41:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the better, yeah, the bit of drug energy.
- 41:55[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he definitely.
- 41:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's going to.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so what we'll talk more go in a minute.
- 41:59[SPEAKER_02]: So let's then go to the next match for the pdf world junior heavyweight championship at scale.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we argue to figure real in a way in 20 minutes and 7 seconds with the firewood splash to make his second defense.
- 42:10[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was good.
- 42:11[SPEAKER_02]: But when a little too long and it was the same sort of anti climactic just hit a bunch of arrow moves and wind.
- 42:19[SPEAKER_02]: Aoyaki.
- 42:21[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I agree as well, like I thought it was a really good match, but it was a good match, but I was disappointed by it and yeah, it's becoming more and more obvious that like at ski doesn't really know how to do a good finishing sequence with with this problem if you want to be the ace so yeah.
- 42:39[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know what, yeah, let's see if we can figure it out, but yeah, I'm definitely like, I don't know if I'm running out of patience, because it's not like it's matters about, but I think it's definitely like something missing from them, which I think we can very solidly say, you know.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then, main event for the World Taking Championship's Zion and Odyssey, definitely, you're Yagi, and you're an enzyme in 2256 with a diving headbutt from Zion on
- 43:08[SPEAKER_02]: extremely interested in this because of, um, I just want to see what the, the double you could get, could get out of this guy.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
- 43:17[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, look, I think they did it about as good as jobs you're going to get.
- 43:22[SPEAKER_02]: So I'd give this like a three and a quarter stars or something.
- 43:25[SPEAKER_02]: three and a half stars, maybe.
- 43:26[SPEAKER_02]: Two long, absolutely.
- 43:29[SPEAKER_02]: But they tried and to be fair, I guess design and obviously tried a little relatively speaking too.
- 43:34[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it was possible, nice one.
- 43:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 43:37[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, what do I will actually have to say after, like, having watched them for a while now?
- 43:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think
- 43:42[SPEAKER_01]: like Zion seems to be a guy that is probably like amazing to like have a drink with because I think that's really the other thing where like and like all of the everybody else in all Japan just seems to love them because you also like always like they sell their ass out for them whenever he's in like a match except for he'd actually
- 44:02[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't know.
- 44:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it actually loves him, but just for some reason he won't sell for him when they're in the ring together.
- 44:09[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, but then otherwise like the match, yeah, as he said, was solid.
- 44:15[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I love this like you must wear it like tag team because.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_01]: It also doesn't feel like a long-term team, right?
- 44:24[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 44:25[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they really have very complimentary styles.
- 44:29[SPEAKER_01]: They're obviously both good enough so that they can, like, for example, carry these guys to a decent match, but they also don't feel like a team that feels like at least so far, I mean, again, there's only, like,
- 44:41[SPEAKER_01]: One of their first matters together, but like it so it feels a bit like it's not they don't have like immediate like natural chemistry as a team So it just feels a bit like less than the sum of its part, but maybe they'll have some time to like iron that out
- 44:58[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, it's funny you say that because I will just say that I feel like as she know and go, are also not showing chemistry after a very short.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, actually, which depending on like what they do, like that, I would actually like put that team towards like my favorites for the real world tag lake, but that depends whether or not the Sapporo match actually turns out to be a tighter match or not.
- 45:20[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 45:21[SPEAKER_02]: So then we go to on the 14th of December 1st, we're going to run at 337 fans supernova and see full house.
- 45:30[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say I'm here at Dan Tamer versus Shota Kofuji, which was the opening match.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_02]: You won in 1040 so that that value bomb.
- 45:38[SPEAKER_02]: And I enjoyed, now I don't know, I defeated Reyky in 1520.
- 45:43[SPEAKER_02]: And well, look, if this wasn't as good as our first match because I think
- 45:49[SPEAKER_02]: No more got his bell rung or was it Honda I can't remember it so man I think it was no more probably went and thought it's no more on that one that got in and that's gonna It was still very good
- 46:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just a little sluggish at one point.
- 46:05[SPEAKER_02]: And then the main event was go show she knows on Odyssey, the feed of Kentow, Yuma, Yogi, June set on Yuma, inside 1727 with the strong armor on Yuma, Yogi with the interesting result I suppose, but that was a good match actually too.
- 46:22[SPEAKER_02]: So then we go to 22nd at Cork and Hall in front of 1,000 to 320 fans.
- 46:28[SPEAKER_02]: And mind you,
- 46:31[SPEAKER_02]: for this match.
- 46:33[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think it would have drawn more?
- 46:34[SPEAKER_02]: They had even extended the build or what do you think?
- 46:37[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe if they had done it, I think if they had done it on a weekend, I think it definitely would have drawn more.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the short build as well.
- 46:47[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I mean,
- 46:49[SPEAKER_01]: I know Go has drawn better in recent years, but let's not forget that the first time Go was an algebra pan.
- 46:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like, look at some of those curriculum numbers he was drawing onto app.
- 47:04[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they weren't just bad in terms of pre-pantemic Japan.
- 47:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like, these would be considered bad numbers like these days.
- 47:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think I remember, I think, because I just went for them as well.
- 47:15[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was one match,
- 47:21[SPEAKER_02]: for like a triple call and don't and well and this is probably why his triple car brand lasted not as long as people thought it was going to raise the last and they put a pack of acquivoc Sorry, yeah, no, no, but like, you know, like it's
- 47:39[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, wait, I think it was, no, okay, sorry, so I'm beginning to write because I looked it up so it was actually the last time.
- 47:44[SPEAKER_01]: So, if we just base it off of Kent and Mia Harvin's go she's acting in Korkin, this is a massive improvement over the first time they did this in Korkin.
- 47:52[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there you go.
- 47:54[SPEAKER_01]: Because the last time they did this, they drew 874 people.
- 47:58[SPEAKER_01]: So, obviously, I'm not going to look up what day of the week that was, because I'm not going to, because this, I don't funny enough, that was 10 years ago, this was in 2015, yeah.
- 48:09[SPEAKER_01]: So, March 27th, 2015, so more than 10 years ago.
- 48:14[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's funny.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_02]: So, we started to show off with you, and we are getting a feeling short of Fuji, and now 33 with a diving elbow drop.
- 48:22[SPEAKER_02]: nice little opener and uh you know i'm i'd always been on that cofuji trade and we'll talk about more about him is then
- 48:29[SPEAKER_02]: Paul, I, I skipped this next match.
- 48:32[SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
- 48:54[SPEAKER_02]: which was a perfectly fine seven minute match.
- 48:58[SPEAKER_02]: I watched Red Eye Abbey and Talos defeat.
- 49:00[SPEAKER_02]: I watched this of course Red Eye Abbey and Talos defeat a rookie hunt in New York and failure no more in 1055 with a deck roulette from Eye Abbey on Honda and Paul
- 49:09[SPEAKER_02]: Is Talents their best for him?
- 49:11[SPEAKER_01]: Discuss.
- 49:12[SPEAKER_01]: He might be.
- 49:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not like that's like a...
- 49:18[SPEAKER_01]: I will say he's less charismatic than Zion.
- 49:21[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
- 49:22[SPEAKER_01]: I think Zion gets better crowd reactions than Talos does.
- 49:25[SPEAKER_01]: Because Zion is just more...
- 49:27[SPEAKER_01]: uh... charismatic but i do think like talos like in ring i think he has a bit he has more to offer than i am does he definitely has more than audacity i think i could see talos getting more over the insan eventually because talos gets it yeah and gets his role and he also is sort of carrying red yeah i think that like putting them together as like a team is like that was like the best thing they could have done with for him
- 49:56[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, yeah, like that's the other thing.
- 49:59[SPEAKER_01]: It always makes him look better in the ring than he probably actually is because the other guy in the ring like his tag team partners when I have it.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 50:07[SPEAKER_02]: And what it also helps a bit.
- 50:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 50:10[SPEAKER_02]: He had some of his business too.
- 50:12[SPEAKER_02]: Besides, some of his weaknesses and towels will carry the charisma and the giant big guy spots and everything like that.
- 50:18[SPEAKER_02]: But towels and I thought towels did more in this match and I'd seen him in any of his other matches.
- 50:25[SPEAKER_02]: either they're just letting him do more or he's improving either is good and he's getting himself as the sort of he knows his role and he's leaning into it and I think I think they're going to be the super team of the tag tournament.
- 50:38[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 50:40[SPEAKER_01]: No, I actually fully agree.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_01]: I think, like, some of those teams in there, like, I think, were like, you know what low key, I think, like, the match, like, wait, like, wait, is that actually going to happen?
- 50:53[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what they are based.
- 50:54[SPEAKER_01]: But there's so many teams in there that I think they could have really good matches with, because they're also so different from most of the other teams in there.
- 51:01[SPEAKER_01]: That's really the thing where, like, I think they're going to
- 51:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
- 51:07[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, you may end the video in a way in 12-12 with a gimlet.
- 51:12[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I didn't think this was as good as their other stuff.
- 51:15[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 51:15[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't quite figure out why.
- 51:18[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, same.
- 51:19[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was like, what's that meant?
- 51:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got good crouch reaction, but it just, there was something from it was missing from it.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that she had been born tense there.
- 51:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you'd had more intensity to it.
- 51:33[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas this just felt like a match between two guys.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_02]: A very good, like a good match between two good wrestlers.
- 51:38[SPEAKER_02]: But nothing more.
- 51:39[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas the previous they really sort of bent over the intensity.
- 51:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 51:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 51:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 51:45[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just a thing of both of them getting like, you know, more experience and being like, well, we don't have to work super, super hard and a specific spot on a card.
- 51:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 51:53[SPEAKER_02]: Just work.
- 51:54[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 51:54[SPEAKER_02]: This they work through a little of a third match from the top for algebra and a quirk at home.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 52:00[SPEAKER_02]: And then next up, always you're taking time.
- 52:03[SPEAKER_02]: Musashi and Sekiyoshio could defeat it at Skiyariya in rising Hado in 1615 with an incident Chiru from Musashi and Hado to make their first defense pretty good match although I thought
- 52:15[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a lucky that we were spotted too, but other than that, you know, a good sort of doubting, I thought.
- 52:22[SPEAKER_02]: And the right team one, I think, actually.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I am enjoying Musash and Seaky.
- 52:29[SPEAKER_01]: It's, again, I felt though, like, with, like, I don't know, like, there was something missing there with Oddsky, like, I enjoyed, like,
- 52:38[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, there's something off about Oddsky that I can't quite put my finger around me.
- 52:45[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we get water?
- 52:45[SPEAKER_02]: It destroys me.
- 52:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, fair, but like, I don't know.
- 52:50[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he needs to adjust the style in some way because of that.
- 52:53[SPEAKER_01]: So, although some of the problems I see with Oddsky is not...
- 52:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's a structural tool.
- 52:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's his psychology too.
- 53:01[SPEAKER_01]: Which like, yeah, that's not going to be affected by his needs.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_02]: You have to improve that, especially if your knees are bad.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly, so yeah, again, he's still young, so I think he still has like a lot of time to like improve on that, but it's Because again, I think we always keep forgetting how absurdly young, like at scale, he still is like 24 I think 24 25
- 53:25[SPEAKER_02]: No, he'll be 26 in December.
- 53:28[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a little bit older, but still, you know, like it's still young enough for him to think, for to give him time to figure it out.
- 53:35[SPEAKER_01]: Like, especially if you've already blown out your knee at that age, you know, you probably want to adjust your things a little bit.
- 53:43[SPEAKER_02]: And then, Shoroko Fuji came out to challenge, and he's probably, that he's Suzuki.
- 53:50[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's Suzuki, they all have a team name and everything.
- 53:52[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there were the cats or something.
- 53:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, something with cats.
- 53:55[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what the name exactly was, but yeah, I mean, hey, why not?
- 54:00[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
- 54:00[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as much as I'm enjoying with Sasha and Sikishi, okay?
- 54:03[SPEAKER_01]: I actually would enjoy.
- 54:04[SPEAKER_01]: Shota, still see, like, how that would look like with, like, Shota Kofuji and, uh, and, uh, Hiteki.
- 54:11[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think they're going to win.
- 54:14[SPEAKER_02]: But no, it's probably.
- 54:17[SPEAKER_02]: This really does feel like California tracksuit on January 2nd.
- 54:21[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.
- 54:22[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, like, I mean, after what unfortunately happened with the Gau, I think now that's basically guaranteed, but I think...
- 54:30[SPEAKER_01]: They were probably going to try and get that one done either way.
- 54:34[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, I don't think always W, like, also would be like putting a lot of, like, block us in his way if he was like, hey, yeah, like, switch over to all Japan.
- 54:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
- 54:44[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's basically a guarantee that he's like coming out in January and a track suit, which they should sell at the Corican on their merch table.
- 54:53[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would buy one.
- 54:55[SPEAKER_02]: So, main event for the Triple Crown can't do me a hurrent if you'd go, she was acting in 20 if there's shut down suplex to make his first defense a three with the Triple Crown.
- 55:06[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to feel about this because I have seen opinions of this match all over
- 55:13[SPEAKER_02]: like more over the place.
- 55:14[SPEAKER_02]: And I enjoyed it, but I didn't think it was as good as I sort of maybe was expecting because I thought, I had a really great structure where Kenton took so much and although there were some good stuff at the end, I thought, we'd go find it after the lyrics, but then Kenton just kind of grabs him and hits the shut down for me.
- 55:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could have been better than it was.
- 55:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I thought it was still really good.
- 55:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I really, I still really enjoyed it.
- 55:40[SPEAKER_01]: I, again, I think these two, like, again, are still both great work.
- 55:46[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've got, right, like, it's a bit of a question, like, how much can this body still take?
- 55:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 55:52[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought he still worked hard.
- 55:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought this was better than, like, they're like,
- 55:58[SPEAKER_01]: Mattressy had at the end of his like no oron like for example I enjoyed this a lot more than like for example They're like singles matchy had before or Tokyo.
- 56:06[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_01]: But this was much better than that So like to me like because after that I was like a little bit like I can go still like go right like a step by the taking him out of the n1 or whatever
- 56:19[SPEAKER_01]: Turns out there was probably a little bit more than just like concerns about his health, I guess.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think he still showed that he like can still like hold up at like a high level.
- 56:32[SPEAKER_01]: Like again, I thought this could have been better.
- 56:34[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe if you put this in a better building, maybe you get like a bit.
- 56:38[SPEAKER_01]: better of a match out of it as well, but I also kind of get by the immediately when to this match as well, because again, health concerns with go are real, so like you might as well just get like the title match out of the way.
- 56:51[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like just go for it immediately.
- 56:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 56:55[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I do think it could have been better than it actually.
- 56:59[SPEAKER_01]: We're used to priced how clean the match was, and that there was no, you know, the deusual havoc, like post-match beat down, that they always do after all of their matches instead of top heels and the promotion.
- 57:15[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 57:18[SPEAKER_02]: I was not surprised at a lot.
- 57:20[SPEAKER_02]: There was none of that at all, because havoc is not a heal group.
- 57:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they are just another house of torture or voodoo murders even.
- 57:28[SPEAKER_02]: But that's how you say you have it.
- 57:31[SPEAKER_01]: Look just because I get it because they wear black and it's black.
- 57:36[SPEAKER_01]: They have a black and red color scheme.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_01]: So I get that your first instinct is that they're a heal stable, but they've never been healers ever.
- 57:42[SPEAKER_01]: It's so over as well.
- 57:44[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing, like the super over with the crowd.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I almost sympathetic to people who get this wrong because they now just have their defense mechanism after like three of the biggest promotions Japan have interfering heel units.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, who have some again, have similar colored colors, kids.
- 58:04[SPEAKER_02]: And Al-Japan also recently had its voodoo murders.
- 58:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well, it did be like that was like two or three years ago at this point.
- 58:14[SPEAKER_02]: I believe voodoo murders lasted into 2023, right?
- 58:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was basically like that was like the cytostyle pretending to heels when they had like turned like it was just the cytos at that point.
- 58:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, but again, you know, I know, I do get, I do get when people have that
- 58:30[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like, what do you think will have a match and tell me to heal, like, that they do exactly.
- 58:36[SPEAKER_02]: And so after the match, go and Kento reconcile.
- 58:39[SPEAKER_02]: And then Hoko Toa, more he came out to challenge.
- 58:42[SPEAKER_02]: Really milk it out the local guy with the Hokkaido tours getting two titles shots.
- 58:46[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Gerard, what do you think, what a Hoko Toa's chance.
- 58:49[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to do it?
- 58:50[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, he's not.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_01]: He's dead.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely not.
- 58:53[SPEAKER_02]: If he does, we'll just change it.
- 58:55[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, I want the Hoko Toa gun theme.
- 58:59[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I'm going to say, I think three of that theme please send it.
- 59:02[SPEAKER_02]: No, here's the thing.
- 59:03[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is, is that part of that CD that's going to go on sale?
- 59:07[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
- 59:08[SPEAKER_01]: They're selling like a CD.
- 59:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're selling like a CD that, like it's going to have, like it's going to have, like it's going to have Android's theme on it.
- 59:14[SPEAKER_01]: We can finally add it to the, if we can finally add it to the show intro.
- 59:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we got to do that.
- 59:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because uh, but no, but if the, I don't remember if the hook to good theme is on there, but if it is,
- 59:29[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the decision.
- 59:32[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think this decision was always how it was going to be.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_02]: I feel fine with it, because I know some people, I feel like the fact that coaching went like destroyed Gabe Nelson's enjoyment of this match.
- 59:43[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
- 59:44[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, kind of literally a canto, literally just won the title back.
- 59:49[SPEAKER_02]: After all, I don't think it's like the idea is makes sense to switch it now.
- 59:53[SPEAKER_02]: The booking idea, and sometimes this is, this is very often the case.
- 59:57[SPEAKER_02]: You got to put it on the, the, the, the, the new, like the gyna, that just came in.
- 1:00:01[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I guess, but anyway, I mean, that also implies that go even once to hold the belt.
- 1:00:07[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, well, yes, that sort of gets into a couple of things.
- 1:00:11[SPEAKER_02]: Why I think I don't know if these are all correct, but I think there's a couple.
- 1:00:15[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these facts probably might be in play.
- 1:00:16[SPEAKER_02]: A, they got burned with Nakajima.
- 1:00:19[SPEAKER_02]: So they wanted their why did Kanto to get put over strongly, because he's also not only lost the Nakajima, but he hadn't had the title so long and has done a lot of jobs.
- 1:00:29[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, goes health is a question mark, go might not want the responsibilities of being a champion and also we don't know how long goes here for go might be here for a few months and then might show up once or twice a month, but he might be doing other things or completely go somewhere else, just as a freelance and then come back for like.
- 1:00:50[SPEAKER_02]: an occasional time, although it sort of feels like with the havoc and he does feel like he's going to at least be a semi regular, not a full blown regular, because he's on all the tours and everything like that.
- 1:01:02[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to have that for a bit at least, which obviously is very welcome and long with no more.
- 1:01:07[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I just think it's, I don't think anything's lost with go, and but I don't also if he is hanging around, I don't rule out that he's going to win it later.
- 1:01:15[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah,
- 1:01:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like I do think he like at the very least, like he is going to be like a guy that will challenge for a title.
- 1:01:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just don't know if the he is at the stage of a career if he even wants to like hold the belt.
- 1:01:31[SPEAKER_01]: That's more my thinking where he might just be like yeah, nah, I'm I'm good on like doing like multiple like triple crown matches like a year, you know, like having to like defend the belt like regularly and all of that.
- 1:01:45[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, maybe like a short title ring, like maybe maybe you do this as like a thing where like, you maybe use go as like a transitional champion between like Ken to and like Anzile something like that.
- 1:01:58[SPEAKER_01]: You could see something like that maybe were like, yeah, like he can to beat him now, but then maybe like they do it like a couple of months down to line, they do the match again and then go beat some there and then
- 1:02:08[SPEAKER_01]: lose this two ends, I like a month or two later.
- 1:02:11[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something I definitely could see happening, but it's just that I think goal, there is a possibility, when it's a title, I just don't think it will be a very long reign if you ever does.
- 1:02:22[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get into the real world technically teams before line up at the end.
- 1:02:26[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll hop, uh, jump to the Hokkaido tour, which I have not seen any of,
- 1:02:32[SPEAKER_02]: But Paul, what have you seen in the arm of Hokkaido tour?
- 1:02:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so at the Hokkaido tour, so I watched a one, yes, I did watch the one from Hokkaido city, that one, yeah, so, but there wasn't really much of note on there.
- 1:02:52[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you had,
- 1:02:53[SPEAKER_01]: He techy beating like his tag team partner in the opener.
- 1:02:58[SPEAKER_01]: For that match, generally like I was pretty solid.
- 1:03:02[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, still really anything of note here.
- 1:03:06[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I put Honda, you know, it was good.
- 1:03:08[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a pretty good match.
- 1:03:12[SPEAKER_01]: Then otherwise, he didn't, then I watched, like, the show from the from the 28th.
- 1:03:20[SPEAKER_01]: So that had another title match.
- 1:03:21[SPEAKER_01]: That had two title matches, actually.
- 1:03:23[SPEAKER_01]: On that, I think that chose actually something to like go and watch.
- 1:03:27[SPEAKER_01]: So that's true, like the things of note from there.
- 1:03:31[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a bit of a negative note I suppose.
- 1:03:34[SPEAKER_01]: You had the freeway wedge between Kumagoro Hokkai and Seigo Tajibana and Yuma Ayoyagi, where
- 1:03:42[SPEAKER_01]: Kumagoro, Hokkai actually beat Humaya, Ikagi.
- 1:03:45[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
- 1:03:46[SPEAKER_01]: That is a very weird fucking decision that I don't really fully understand what the fuck they're doing there.
- 1:03:53[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:03:54[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kumagoro, like in the post-match, like he kind of promo code unquote, but he just made fair noises in the back.
- 1:04:03[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
- 1:04:04[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, just for quick, like I don't think the match was of note, but like the opener was when Ayabeth, Talos and Shota Kofuji, defeating Dantamura, Ryu Ino and Hikaru Sato, and the only thing of note is again like the post match, where like Talos cut a promo, and you see like when Ayabeth standing next to him and then the camera like pants down to like Shota Kofuji, who basically goes like, yeah, let's go and then like that's literally all they do for the promo.
- 1:04:30[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
- 1:04:31[SPEAKER_01]: You had Go Shilzaki defeating Seki Yoshiyoka in 12 minutes 20 with the go and Larry it.
- 1:04:39[SPEAKER_01]: I that that match I really enjoyed that match was really fun.
- 1:04:43[SPEAKER_01]: Not like a great match or anything like that but like just like go going in there and working with like Seki Yoshiyoka like that's like a completely fresh match as well.
- 1:04:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's just ever even I don't like it.
- 1:04:55[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that past really ever crossed when they were no
- 1:04:59[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, no, that was like, uh, like, I think they kind of teased a little bit like go put like say go kind of like Inviting sakey to join like havoc.
- 1:05:10[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know what's coming out if the anything will like come out of that or not Then you had 40 gay or a TV title, shatara machine or the feeding Kurshio Tokyo Japan in 30 minutes, 19 with the ankle lock
- 1:05:22[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, they're putting a title on a, you know, so, yes.
- 1:05:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's finally time for, like, to give you a title to be, like, bit more of a work rate belt again, which again, they do every once in a while.
- 1:05:35[SPEAKER_01]: The match itself was fine, but like, it was not over at all in the crowd.
- 1:05:41[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the crowd was so quiet for this, which really.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was the same, because I think, like,
- 1:05:50[SPEAKER_01]: and the crowd just kind of gave them nothing really, but yeah, it was also pretty like dominant like win for Shino's world who just kind of like worked over like zero's ankle for the entire imagine and tapped them out at the end.
- 1:06:06[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's worth for trying to see a scene when a single title again, which has been a long time since the last time you held a single title, right?
- 1:06:14[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was like whatever he last held like the rest of one title.
- 1:06:18[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like a long, long time ago.
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_01]: Then otherwise, I don't think that's my toughest really worth talking about.
- 1:06:27[SPEAKER_01]: But then you had the
- 1:06:29[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's hacked in title match between Zion and Odyssey defeating Hocktogun, Hocktog Mori and Kumarashi in 1843, when Zion and Kumarashi after diving had, but yeah, match was okay.
- 1:06:46[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't anything great or anything like that.
- 1:06:49[SPEAKER_01]: It was too long as well.
- 1:06:51[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it could have been worse, given that it's not like these are like four amazing workers.
- 1:06:59[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I've been put again, I will always say like Hokato and Kuma like always better and like a tag team Format and they aren't like when they're like having singles mattress Yeah, so This definitely was better than I expected but like it also went like too long as well And then they're gonna yeah, and then they're gonna do Ashino and go versus Zion and Odyssey like in Sapporo
- 1:07:25[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I don't like again.
- 1:07:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ashino like reference them potentially making it a title match, but I don't know if it actually has been announced as a title match just yet, which if it is, then actually I think it becomes a lot less like you let go and Ashino like winning the real world tag league.
- 1:07:50[SPEAKER_02]: woke up to this pleasant news because I was like this was a big question mark whether I don't know she was gonna win the title because I would not shock me if they have dear I think you're defending the DRTV title against the before previously successfully right at one point Yeah, I think so
- 1:08:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think yeah, I think I think that was one of those times when we were like, it is no way they're going to have a sheenolose to like gero and then he loves to gero.
- 1:08:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think this is good.
- 1:08:20[SPEAKER_02]: I think that this is it's going to go back to the Garrett TV title as a work rate title.
- 1:08:25[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
- 1:08:26[SPEAKER_02]: I just hope they give them good opponents.
- 1:08:28[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's always the question.
- 1:08:29[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, look, I mean, there's some options there.
- 1:08:32[SPEAKER_01]: You have like, you could put them up against like, I mean, if he's up against Sega, right?
- 1:08:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's say adventure Sega is like, you go and put them in there, find the gear or TV title is like a joke title, but you can also put them in there and have like an actual like, work-grade match as well.
- 1:08:46[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
- 1:08:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, I mean, I think I think it builds well.
- 1:08:51[SPEAKER_02]: But let's just wait and see what happens.
- 1:08:53[SPEAKER_02]: So,
- 1:08:55[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I guess there's the big upcoming match show at, uh, yeah.
- 1:09:01[SPEAKER_02]: It's on the third at the usual place where they have the big title matches.
- 1:09:05[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Pearl Hall or hotel.
- 1:09:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:09:08[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so you've gone.
- 1:09:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:09:11[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 1:09:11[SPEAKER_02]: No, right there, right there.
- 1:09:12[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
- 1:09:13[SPEAKER_02]: So you've got UMass and then Dan versus June said a rape out in real in a way.
- 1:09:19[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, you're Yoshida and Tomoya versus Kurshu Tokyo, Japan, Cuba, Racine, Sago Taxi Bada, Renai Abe and Talos versus Atsuki and Hayato, and then you of course, you also have Zion and Odyssey versus Taurus, you know, Yoshio Zaki.
- 1:09:37[SPEAKER_02]: That's like a third time at that match though.
- 1:09:39[SPEAKER_02]: It's not on the website yet as a title match.
- 1:09:43[SPEAKER_02]: Could this be a 30 minute draw Paul?
- 1:09:45[SPEAKER_01]: I could be, but that's like, man, like, I don't want to see Odyssey go for a tea.
- 1:09:50[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, but when she don't go or you're still like, I don't know.
- 1:09:55[SPEAKER_02]: You were going to make these guys forced these guys to go 30.
- 1:09:58[SPEAKER_02]: You might want to do it here.
- 1:09:59[SPEAKER_01]: You see, I mean, if you ever want to have them to go for a minute, I mean, yeah, that's what they want to do it for.
- 1:10:06[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel like she asked champion.
- 1:10:09[SPEAKER_01]: He's a tiny TV title champ.
- 1:10:11[SPEAKER_01]: Still, I don't know.
- 1:10:14[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like, I could also see this, like, ending a draw.
- 1:10:16[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it's going to tell us a lot of what they think about go.
- 1:10:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:10:21[SPEAKER_01]: Or could it be that, like, Odyssey or Zion get pinned here?
- 1:10:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:10:25[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to, like, tease like them actually doing a title match.
- 1:10:28[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but then they go right into the real world tackle, but again, like what what if Ashino and go in that one, and then it's just havoc versus havoc at the new year.
- 1:10:39[SPEAKER_02]: But here's my thing.
- 1:10:40[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you should have the champs lose right before the tournament.
- 1:10:43[SPEAKER_01]: That is also, yeah, that is what would be a weird decision to.
- 1:10:47[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 1:10:48[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:10:49[SPEAKER_02]: If you want, you can go in Ashino loose here and then have the tag with you.
- 1:10:53[SPEAKER_01]: Window, taglic, and then beat them.
- 1:10:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:10:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:10:57[SPEAKER_02]: And then the semi-main event, Musashi and Seki Yoshio could defend the audience to tag titles against Hideki Suzuki and Shota Kufuji.
- 1:11:04[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually think that Kufuji will be trying here.
- 1:11:07[SPEAKER_02]: So I think this will be good.
- 1:11:09[SPEAKER_02]: And the main event for the Triple Crown, Hogoto Mori, challenging Kento Miohara.
- 1:11:16[SPEAKER_02]: And Paul, we all know who's going to win this match.
- 1:11:19[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think the quality of this match will be?
- 1:11:22[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they did have that one title match that was actually really good, right?
- 1:11:27[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of depends whether or not a hookah to a can find that gear again, which he hasn't been able to since then.
- 1:11:32[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess if anybody can get an out of them,
- 1:11:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true, but that means the old lady has just like one good title match of the year.
- 1:11:44[SPEAKER_01]: Also, by the way, tickets are selling well for the show actually.
- 1:11:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at it on E plus and like the obviously like the most expensive two categories are sold out and then everything else is the triangle for like few remaining.
- 1:12:00[SPEAKER_02]: That is a good sign.
- 1:12:02[SPEAKER_02]: On Lawson, they have the B reserve seat
- 1:12:06[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, so that's my tree.
- 1:12:08[SPEAKER_02]: It might be selling all the well.
- 1:12:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which of the cheapest tickets though, but still good.
- 1:12:13[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's good.
- 1:12:15[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good sign for them.
- 1:12:16[SPEAKER_02]: So before we go, let's look at the real world tag league and we have a block.
- 1:12:22[SPEAKER_02]: Badekis Suzuki and Keiko Machimo, Renai Abe and Talos, Shotaro Machino and Go Shiozaki, Hokutou Amori and Kuma Arashi, Musashi and Sekiyoshi Yoka, and Dan Tamara in the car side of the rounding of the A-block.
- 1:12:38[SPEAKER_02]: Paul, I think that this is the weaker block.
- 1:12:42[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you're the star power.
- 1:12:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'll definitely.
- 1:12:45[SPEAKER_01]: It's two very different blocks in the turn of Benton, Tamso, star power, that's for sure.
- 1:12:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think to me they're like the odds on favorite to like come out of that block there's only really two teams here a walk.
- 1:13:00[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sorry, tell us that I have a and then go in and go under she know yeah, it's like as much as I'm enjoying it like I think like I have been titles or like a good team but like I don't know if you want to like but didn't again
- 1:13:13[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that that's also like an easy way to like have burn off like a match there I guess or without having to burn off like a money drawing match as opposed to putting those two in like the finals so the block is Zion and Odyssey can't be a hard day versus junior you know you can you manza rakey on a nail you know more up.
- 1:13:31[SPEAKER_02]: to caution, curse your tongue, your disillusionment, and ask the air, yagi, and rising high auto.
- 1:13:39[SPEAKER_02]: Now look, I only think there's only one bad team in the tournament that's to caution well.
- 1:13:46[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that Zion and Odyssey versus like, to caution, and Dioro match, like that's going to be really worth it.
- 1:13:53[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be a rough lunch, although that might be short.
- 1:13:56[SPEAKER_02]: So let's skip all the way ahead to the second last show on December 7th at IHE port Miss a Nagoya 2nd Extra Mission Hall.
- 1:14:07[SPEAKER_02]: So the maps on that show are Rena Abe and Talos versus No, sorry wrong one.
- 1:14:14[SPEAKER_02]: Hedeki and Kango Machimo versus Busashi 2nd here she'll go
- 1:14:19[SPEAKER_02]: Renai Abbey, Talos versus Go in Chino.
- 1:14:23[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:14:23[SPEAKER_02]: Ok, what we'll talk more about...
- 1:14:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to see Rashi versus Dan and Sato.
- 1:14:28[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that to me, that sounds like it's going to come down to like... Go in a Chino, as it's like... Renai Abbey and Talos, right?
- 1:14:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yup.
- 1:14:37[SPEAKER_01]: And then Honda and no more of Rashi's own and Odyssey.
- 1:14:40[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like that's going to be like eliminating one of them.
- 1:14:44[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like the main event is going to be like... for like, people out there.
- 1:14:48[SPEAKER_02]: And then, inside Air Yogi versus Kent Owens, man.
- 1:14:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be the side of for Block B.
- 1:14:57[SPEAKER_02]: Are they, um, are they doing semis?
- 1:14:59[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, right?
- 1:15:02[SPEAKER_01]: What's the, you can, we can check relativity.
- 1:15:05[SPEAKER_02]: I looked on the, I checked the set.
- 1:15:07[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing else for the, for the next one.
- 1:15:09[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 1:15:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't remember if they noticed any of these.
- 1:15:14[SPEAKER_02]: Although I feel like in the, in the A block,
- 1:15:18[SPEAKER_02]: go and Ashino versus Talos and and I obey that feels like we don't block the side or go to the finals.
- 1:15:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah.
- 1:15:29[SPEAKER_01]: I think that one is definitely a block the side or and then Davey Boy, like that almost feels like like semi-finals or like in a way, you know, I don't think I don't think they're doing semi-finals.
- 1:15:40[SPEAKER_02]: Could be wrong, but I mean, the way they set this up feels like um, yeah.
- 1:15:45[SPEAKER_02]: set up to be like, oh, who's going to go to the finals type thing?
- 1:15:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is I think for the best just do the finals on the final show.
- 1:15:53[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think the finals are going to be?
- 1:15:55[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would say I think it's going to be the UMass versus, I mean, I like the best math possible match.
- 1:16:02[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the UMass versus go and Ashina.
- 1:16:05[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:16:06[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know what?
- 1:16:06[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to root for that one.
- 1:16:08[SPEAKER_01]: But I could also see it be.
- 1:16:10[SPEAKER_01]: I think the humans are coming out of that block.
- 1:16:13[SPEAKER_01]: So I could also see it be you, most versus talos and talos and Ayabe.
- 1:16:19[SPEAKER_01]: But then they're all ready doing that match like relatively soon as well.
- 1:16:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're doing that on like one of the house shows.
- 1:16:28[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what?
- 1:16:29[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be go and Shane of versus the humans.
- 1:16:32[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you think that's a follow?
- 1:16:34[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:16:35[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I want to make my bold prediction.
- 1:16:37[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be the cashier and zero.
- 1:16:40[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:16:41[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be going to she know versus the sloppy seconds.
- 1:16:44[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, that's actually a good one.
- 1:16:46[SPEAKER_01]: I had an actually consuming.
- 1:16:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:16:47[SPEAKER_01]: That would be really good match to.
- 1:16:50[SPEAKER_02]: You got to do like I feel like haunted no more it's going to feel like geeks if you don't give them.
- 1:16:54[SPEAKER_01]: especially like the way the team came together as well, yeah.
- 1:16:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Honda needs something, yeah, that's true.
- 1:17:00[SPEAKER_01]: Especially like if we consider like, because it's still like, white water's going to be the triple crown match on like December, for the first, right?
- 1:17:07[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if we think it's going to be and like versus canto, then like, you need somebody else to be in the tactile match.
- 1:17:15[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or you can do the tag telematch on January 2nd or 3rd, but that makes sense.
- 1:17:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:17:20[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like, it just to me, I don't really see what else they got other than Anza versus Kentone first.
- 1:17:26[SPEAKER_01]: No, nothing.
- 1:17:27[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm really Anzai pins Kentone to set that up in the final match to block.
- 1:17:34[SPEAKER_02]: Um, then I'm going to the finals.
- 1:17:36[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:17:36[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you mean that that way that basically like you must have already out and then Anzile pins can to like eliminate him and then the sloppy seconds go for instead.
- 1:17:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could see that happening.
- 1:17:48[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's no match order here, but it feels like the mean event like that.
- 1:17:51[SPEAKER_01]: Anzile the humans that feels like the main event.
- 1:17:56[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just, uh, I guess the predictions and all right.
- 1:17:59[SPEAKER_02]: So any closing thoughts, Paul?
- 1:18:01[SPEAKER_01]: I have my tickets for the January 4th of December 31st, actually.
- 1:18:06[SPEAKER_01]: And do you have your tickets to the January 1st show?
- 1:18:10[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm going to buy those at that last time as well.
- 1:18:14[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to sell out in advance.
- 1:18:16[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just going to buy them at the...
- 1:18:18[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I'm just going to buy them at the Euro show.
- 1:18:21[SPEAKER_01]: Like basically I'm just going to buy all at that last time as well.
- 1:18:24[SPEAKER_01]: either then trying to deal with like the Japanese ticket websites.
- 1:18:28[SPEAKER_01]: And I got like a, I got like a fur, bro ticket for this one.
- 1:18:33[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
- 1:18:34[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to the January 2nd and 3rd Alchipank Orkins?
- 1:18:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I said, I'm going to buy the tickets for that.
- 1:18:42[SPEAKER_01]: And at the yoga show, then I actually have like a physical ticket as well.
- 1:18:47[SPEAKER_01]: And I have my ticket actually for the Noah, like a new year show as well.
- 1:18:52[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.
- 1:18:53[SPEAKER_02]: You already have a ticket.
- 1:18:54[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I asked.
- 1:18:54[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
- 1:18:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sorry.
- 1:18:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:18:56[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
- 1:18:56[SPEAKER_01]: I have tickets for both of them.
- 1:18:57[SPEAKER_01]: I've tickets for both of those.
- 1:18:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 1:18:59[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 1:18:59[SPEAKER_01]: And then whatever other, other know I show, I might do.
- 1:19:02[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm going to buy those at, like, put a control because.
- 1:19:05[SPEAKER_01]: It's just much easier to just hand somebody cash or pay with card.
- 1:19:11[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a person like in person there that you can just be like, could that's the other thing like with the ticket websites you just get whatever is available like in that category?
- 1:19:20[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you buy them in person, you can literally look at the map and you can literally point at the seat that you want.
- 1:19:26[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, nice.
- 1:19:27[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 1:19:28[SPEAKER_01]: But you know you can do online in other countries as well, but in Japan, you can only do that a few times a month.
- 1:19:35[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's a catch.
- 1:19:36[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we will be back in a couple weeks once the, well, we got the Hokkaido tour like real world tagly kicking off that NOAA.
- 1:19:46[SPEAKER_02]: Corcorcan Hall show with the much, I guess, eagerly awaited, kind of versus, you know, where I'm at.
- 1:19:51[SPEAKER_02]: So until then, take care of yourselves and enjoy all the wrestling out there.