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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein's And The Devastating Effects Of His Abuse (9/9/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: Tonight we have an article from the Daily Mail, and
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  Speaker 1: it has to do with a girl who overdosed on
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  Speaker 1: heroin after being one of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse victims. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I talk about this quite a bit on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: about the girls that we've never heard about, the unnamed girls.
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  Speaker 1: The ones that, you know, have been abused by Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and his ring. And, you know, they haven't been in
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  Speaker 1: the public eye. They might not have been part of
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit or they've chosen to remain in the background
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Or they might have settled out of
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  Speaker 1: court with Jeffrey Epstein. Or it might have just been
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  Speaker 1: somebody who has slipped through the cracks. Well, in tonight's article,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to hear from this girl's twin sister and
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  Speaker 1: the family and how the abuse at the hands of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein led directly to her spiraling out of control.
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  Speaker 1: And we know it's more prevalent than we've heard. There's
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  Speaker 1: definitely more cases like this out there of girls who
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  Speaker 1: were caught up in Jeffrey Epstein's web and who were
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  Speaker 1: abused and who were trafficked by him to his rich,
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  Speaker 1: famous friends and abused by him, you know, himself. These
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  Speaker 1: are the girls that, you know, they have not come
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  Speaker 1: forward for whatever reason or they've just slipped through the
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  Speaker 1: cracks or, you know, whatever the reason may be. We
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  Speaker 1: know that there has to be a ton more of
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  Speaker 1: these kind of girls out there because what Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was up to, we know how prolific he was with
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  Speaker 1: the activities that he was engaged in. If reports can
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  Speaker 1: be believed, three a day, you do the math there,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about 90 girls a month. Were they all
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  Speaker 1: the same girls all the time? No, we know that
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  Speaker 1: they weren't. So I'm sure that there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: more girls out there who share stories such as this
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  Speaker 1: girl in the article tonight. and have also suffered great
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  Speaker 1: tragedy and battled through all sorts of mental illness and
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  Speaker 1: PTSD and all sorts of other ailments that go along
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  Speaker 1: with suffering such trauma at the hands of somebody like
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. So it's nice to hear one of these stories,
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  Speaker 1: not so much the content, obviously, but it's good to
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  Speaker 1: get these stories out there because it brings awareness to
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  Speaker 1: other girls who might not have told their stories yet, right?
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  Speaker 1: And this is a very tricky situation for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these girls. I'm sure a lot of them don't
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  Speaker 1: want to come out and publicly speak and have all
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  Speaker 1: that attention and have to answer questions and be mobbed
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  Speaker 1: by newspapers and all of that stuff. I'm sure a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these girls have been able to compartmentalize this
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  Speaker 1: at least to the degree where they can at least
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  Speaker 1: function and go through life as normal as possible. Whereas
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  Speaker 1: there's other girls who I'm sure this is just something
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  Speaker 1: that they have not been able to get over, even
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  Speaker 1: with therapy and going to speak to a professional, a
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  Speaker 1: mental health professional and a trauma specialist. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's a hurdle that can't be jumped. It's a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very difficult task to come out of a dark
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  Speaker 1: place like that. And I'm sure there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of girls that have fallen into that sort of abyss
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  Speaker 1: where there just doesn't seem to be any hope and
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  Speaker 1: any light. And they turn to drugs, right? They turn
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  Speaker 1: to drugs and they turn to self-destructive behavior. And that's
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  Speaker 1: just that's human nature. And, you know, when the trauma
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  Speaker 1: has been that heavy. You can't even judge people when
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  Speaker 1: they look for that escape, they look for that release.
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  Speaker 1: They've been abandoned by the justice system, they've been abandoned
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  Speaker 1: by the authorities, and you can't really blame them. And
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at them with empathy when they
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  Speaker 1: turn to something like this, because really what they're saying
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  Speaker 1: and what this is signaling is that they're at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the rope, right? They don't know where to turn.
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  Speaker 1: They can't get help. Nothing has helped them. And all
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  Speaker 1: they're looking for is to dull the pain. So a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that suffer this sort of trauma, they
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  Speaker 1: end up becoming drug addicts and they end up having
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  Speaker 1: destructive behavior control their lives. And that's what we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see in this article. And I think it's poignant
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  Speaker 1: and it's very important because I know for a fact
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  Speaker 1: that there are so many other girls like this in
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  Speaker 1: this case and in other cases as well, right? Not
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  Speaker 1: just with Jeffrey Epstein, but other people who have suffered
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  Speaker 1: this sort of abuse and who have not, you know,
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  Speaker 1: come forward and who it is, who, who, They've suffered
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  Speaker 1: not only the abuse, but the after effects of that
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  Speaker 1: abuse and what it has done to them going forward
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  Speaker 1: in their lives and how it's hindered them trying to
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  Speaker 1: move forward with a happy life. You know, the basic,
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  Speaker 1: the things that we just take for granted, right? The
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  Speaker 1: pursuit of happiness, right? Being able to, you know, wake
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  Speaker 1: up every morning and even though you're stressed or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you're able to, you know, focus on, you know, what
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  Speaker 1: you have to do, what's good in your life, etc., etc.
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  Speaker 1: For people that have suffered this kind of trauma, well,
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  Speaker 1: there seems like there's no hope. There's no getting out
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  Speaker 1: of that hole. And then they get sucked into the
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  Speaker 1: depression aspect of it and the drug use and it's
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  Speaker 1: just bad news. So when we have an article like this,
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  Speaker 1: when the families are willing to come forward and share
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  Speaker 1: an article like this, even though it's painful to read, right?
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  Speaker 1: And brutal to read, it's something that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: talked about. It's something that needs to be added to
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  Speaker 1: the catalog. And it's a very vital part of the
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  Speaker 1: story because when you see Virginia and Annie and Maria
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  Speaker 1: and the rest of the, the gals coming forward, they're, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're, they're, fighting for these girls as well, right?
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  Speaker 1: The girls that maybe haven't had a chance to come
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  Speaker 1: forward or have ended up overdosing on drugs or who
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  Speaker 1: have killed themselves or whatever it may be. They never
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to have their voices heard. So when
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  Speaker 1: these girls come forward that are, you know, that are
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  Speaker 1: still with us and who have been able to battle
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  Speaker 1: through this and soldier on and they've been able to
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  Speaker 1: face down their own demons and come out victorious, When
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  Speaker 1: they come out and they come forward and they speak
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  Speaker 1: on these topics, it's not just about them, really, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's about these girls that don't have a voice either.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to speak for the survivors of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, but the ones who have come forward, they
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  Speaker 1: have taken that great burden upon their shoulders and... And
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  Speaker 1: they're leading the charge for the ones who don't have
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  Speaker 1: a voice. Because there was a time when these girls,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have a voice either. Nobody listened to them either.
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  Speaker 1: So now that they have a platform, they're bravely standing
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  Speaker 1: up to the powers that be. And they're telling them, look,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to speak out on what happened to us.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to speak out for all of the
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  Speaker 1: girls that couldn't speak out. And we're going to demand justice.
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  Speaker 1: And what you see here is families now of girls
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  Speaker 1: that have lost their lives due to overdoses, etc. They're
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  Speaker 1: coming out and they're adding their voice to the collective now.
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  Speaker 1: And this is very powerful stuff and it's very important
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  Speaker 1: that we talk about it. So this article is from
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  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail and the headline is, Exclusive. She suffered
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  Speaker 1: tremendously and it started with Jeffrey Epstein. twin sister of
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  Speaker 1: woman who overdosed on heroin years after being abused by
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  Speaker 1: financier pedophile as a teen blames her downward spiral and
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  Speaker 1: death on the billionaire pedophile. And from that headline alone,
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  Speaker 1: it tells you what the article entails, right? It tells
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  Speaker 1: you what the article is going to be about. And
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  Speaker 1: we can see and we understand, because we've seen it
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  Speaker 1: time and time again in cases like this, how the
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  Speaker 1: spiral begins. This young girl comes into his web, gets
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  Speaker 1: abused by him, and then she, you know, her mental
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  Speaker 1: state is fractured by it. And rightfully so. You go
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  Speaker 1: through a traumatic experience like that, you know, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to shake anybody at their core, at their foundation. And
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  Speaker 1: we see these girls, they have this huge burden placed
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  Speaker 1: upon them after they deal with Jeffrey Epstein. And we've
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  Speaker 1: seen it numerous times in girls that have even come forward,
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  Speaker 1: how they turn to drugs and alcohol to try and
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  Speaker 1: stave off the memories and try and beat back the
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  Speaker 1: emotions that they feel because of the abuse that they suffered.
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  Speaker 1: And then there are other girls like this girl we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about tonight who slipped between the cracks, right, folks?
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  Speaker 1: She slipped between the cracks and the society as a
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  Speaker 1: whole let her down. And it's sad to read about,
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  Speaker 1: it's sad to talk about, but unfortunately this is reality.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of times people are slipping through the
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  Speaker 1: cracks and children are slipping through the cracks. And we
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  Speaker 1: have to do a better job of making sure that
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  Speaker 1: we're more aware of what is going on around us.
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  Speaker 1: And not so wrapped up in the BS gaslighting that
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  Speaker 1: that oblong box in the corner of your living room
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  Speaker 1: tries to get you wrapped up in. We have to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we're focused on the things that matter. And
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  Speaker 1: if this case doesn't matter, if human trafficking at the
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  Speaker 1: highest levels of government doesn't matter, if the abuse of
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  Speaker 1: children doesn't matter, then we're completely lost as a civilization.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not willing to go there yet, right? I
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  Speaker 1: believe that Western civilization is something that is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: worth fighting for at the very least. worth standing up for.
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  Speaker 1: I know as somebody who lives in a republic in
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  Speaker 1: the United States of America and somebody who believes in
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  Speaker 1: the rule of law, even though I don't see it
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  Speaker 1: effectively put into place, I think that it is all
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  Speaker 1: of our duty to stand up when we see something
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  Speaker 1: like this and tell the people we've elected and tell
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement that it's their job to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: this sort of thing does not occur. And we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: a lot more of that. now. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very important that this sort of stuff is brought to
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  Speaker 1: the public view. And is brought into more of a
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  Speaker 1: public light. Because there are too many people that slip
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  Speaker 1: through the cracks. And we have to do our best
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that we mitigate that. Of course, there's
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  Speaker 1: always going to be people who slip through the cracks.
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  Speaker 1: There's always going to be people like Jeffrey Epstein that
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  Speaker 1: figure out ways to manipulate the situation. But anytime we
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  Speaker 1: see it and it's so brazen and so upfront, we
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  Speaker 1: have to call it out. Among the stories from dozens
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  Speaker 1: of victims of pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein, the untold tale
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  Speaker 1: of Lee Patrick's descent into a personal, drug-fueled hell on
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  Speaker 1: earth stands out in its horror. And again, there has
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  Speaker 1: to be numerous stories like this. It's very sad for
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  Speaker 1: this gal, Lee Patrick's family, to have to go on
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  Speaker 1: record and relive this and talk about this again. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that their voice adds to the growing narrative
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  Speaker 1: that's demanding justice. And I think that they're giving voice
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  Speaker 1: to the numerous nameless girls that have not been able
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  Speaker 1: to come forward or whose family hasn't felt comfortable coming
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  Speaker 1: forward and sharing their case. I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be very important going forward and maybe even
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  Speaker 1: set a precedent for some of the other families of
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  Speaker 1: girls who have suffered the same fate for them to
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  Speaker 1: come forward and also speak out on the record. Christian
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  Speaker 1: school graduate Patrick, who told DailyMail.com in an unpublished interview
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  Speaker 1: about her relationship with a multi-millionaire pervert in 2015, was
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  Speaker 1: found dead in a room in a sleazy West Palm
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  Speaker 1: Beach motel just weeks short of her 30th birthday on
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  Speaker 1: May 30, 2017. You know, that's unfortunately a very typical
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  Speaker 1: story here in America. A lot of us have lost
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  Speaker 1: loved ones to drug addiction, and a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: have lost loved ones to situations just exactly like this.
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  Speaker 1: But when you add the other factor into it, the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she was abused by Jeffrey Epstein and abandoned
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  Speaker 1: by the justice system, and she saw that justice was
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  Speaker 1: never going to be served, and then you put that
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  Speaker 1: into what we know here about her overdosing and and
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  Speaker 1: being addicted to heroin, and it's impossible to see that
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  Speaker 1: the two don't correlate, right? We understand that basic human
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  Speaker 1: nature is what took over here, and she was obviously
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  Speaker 1: trying to repress those feelings and the trauma that she suffered,
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  Speaker 1: and she got caught up in the drug game. I
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  Speaker 1: know personally I've seen it happen to a ton of
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  Speaker 1: people that weren't suffering from trauma. I've seen it happen
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of people I care about. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not an easy thing to see. It's not a pleasant
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  Speaker 1: thing to see. To watch your friends or your loved
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  Speaker 1: ones battle with drugs and battle with addiction and basically
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  Speaker 1: kill themselves right in front of your eyes. But there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing you really can do. You're helpless in that situation
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  Speaker 1: until the person is ready to get help. and then
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  Speaker 1: you add the trauma on top of that, and you
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  Speaker 1: have yourself a situation that is almost impossible to navigate
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  Speaker 1: without professional help. And while her death was ruled accidental
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  Speaker 1: by the local medical examiner's office and blamed on the
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  Speaker 1: opiate crisis, both a family member and a friend described
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  Speaker 1: Patrick's death as the conclusion of a chain of events
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  Speaker 1: kicked off by her alleged encounters with Epstein more than
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  Speaker 1: 15 years ago. It's, you know... it's definitely the type
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  Speaker 1: of thing that can begin a down, a spiral into,
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  Speaker 1: into the, the abyss, right? Getting some trauma like that
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  Speaker 1: when you're, you're a young girl and then have to
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  Speaker 1: having to live with it. You can't tell anybody about it.
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  Speaker 1: And then if she had, you know, maybe she had
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  Speaker 1: some underlying mental illness already, maybe some anxiety or, or
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  Speaker 1: depression or, um, whatever it may be, it could have
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  Speaker 1: just been exasperated by this whole entire thing and just exploded, right? Look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any medical evidence proving that. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a medical doctor. I'm just going by what we're reading
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  Speaker 1: here in the article, analyzing what we're reading here in
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  Speaker 1: the article, and applying it to, you know, the day-to-day
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  Speaker 1: world and the things that we see on a day-to-day
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  Speaker 1: basis within the opiate crisis here in America, because it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a big deal. But what's never addressed and what
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  Speaker 1: is just as important is not so much the addiction,
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  Speaker 1: it's the underlying cause of the addiction. The underlying cause
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  Speaker 1: of the addiction is very rarely addressed and that is
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  Speaker 1: something that totally needs to be talked about and it
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  Speaker 1: needs to be addressed if you're going to help the
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  Speaker 1: person who is suffering from the addiction. She struggled with
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  Speaker 1: addiction since the time she met that guy. She went
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  Speaker 1: to rehab several times. She fought hard, but she eventually
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  Speaker 1: succumbed to the addiction. We miss her. It's tough. It's
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  Speaker 1: tough when you lose somebody you care about to an overdose,
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  Speaker 1: and it's frustrating. It's maddening. You don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: You're at the end of your rope. You've done everything
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  Speaker 1: in your power to help these people, and this is
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  Speaker 1: still the result. And again, you add the trauma of
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  Speaker 1: being assaulted by Epstein on top of it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just a bomb waiting to explode. And just like they
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  Speaker 1: said here, she tried to get help several times and
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work. She fought hard. But some people just
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  Speaker 1: get so caught up, their mental illness from the trauma,
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  Speaker 1: as well as the drug addiction, it grabs hold and
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  Speaker 1: then that's it. There's no way to get out of it.
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  Speaker 1: And again, there must be so many girls that have
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  Speaker 1: suffered at Epstein's hands, that have struggled the same way
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  Speaker 1: that she has struggled here. It's crazy. It's crazy now
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  Speaker 1: when we read this article to put a face to it.
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  Speaker 1: Because before we were just like, oh, it's an unnamed person,
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  Speaker 1: an unnamed girl. But now we have a name, right?
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  Speaker 1: Lee Patrick. Lee Patrick. She was somebody who... fit the
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  Speaker 1: whole entire bill that we were discussing, that we would
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  Speaker 1: describe the unknown girl who suffered at Epstein's hands and
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  Speaker 1: then disappeared that we never heard from again. How many
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  Speaker 1: other girls suffered this fate? And I think about this
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  Speaker 1: a lot. This is something that I ponder quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit because it's really hard to get to the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of that, right? How do you figure that out? How
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  Speaker 1: do you trace that down? How do you vet that?
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  Speaker 1: Without just an abundance of resources, it would be very
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  Speaker 1: difficult to go after that. And even with an abundance
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  Speaker 1: of resources, it would be hard to track that down. Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: a Wall Street financier, pedophile, with more than $ 100 million
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  Speaker 1: in properties in Manhattan, Palm Beach, and elsewhere, was arrested
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  Speaker 1: on July 6th on federal charges of sex trafficking. Trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: The arrest has shaken the political establishment to its core
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  Speaker 1: because Epstein, a friend of President Donald Trump and former
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  Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton, has been accused of sharing some of
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  Speaker 1: his underage victims with other powerful men. Yeah, look, there's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He has definitely been accused of that.
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  Speaker 1: And we're talking people at the highest levels of government.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking people in Israeli politics, American politics, royals over
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  Speaker 1: in England. We're talking about, you know, him being really
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  Speaker 1: good friends with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, his
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  Speaker 1: ties to Austria. You know, we're talking about an intercontinental
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  Speaker 1: enterprise here, folks. This is a guy that was surrounded
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  Speaker 1: by power players. In the mid-2000s, Palm Beach police investigated
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and accused him of recruiting and paying dozens of girls,
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  Speaker 1: many of them troubled and some of them as young
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  Speaker 1: as 14, from working-class neighborhoods for sex in a dungeon
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  Speaker 1: at his waterfront mansion. Yeah, you know, the story is
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  Speaker 1: as old as time itself. The elite preying on the
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  Speaker 1: working class. The elite preying on those that they deem
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  Speaker 1: less worthy than them. And that's what this story breaks
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  Speaker 1: down to, right? Jeffrey Epstein, part of the so-called elite
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  Speaker 1: New York upper crust society, looked at everybody else as
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  Speaker 1: his plaything. And everybody else as a piece on a chessboard.
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  Speaker 1: As was, you saw the example of that. At his house,
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  Speaker 1: how he had his employees carved into likenesses of chess pieces,
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  Speaker 1: and they were moved around on the chessboard as if
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  Speaker 1: they were pieces to be played with. And that's how
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  Speaker 1: Epstein viewed everything. It was just his playground, and everybody
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  Speaker 1: was a piece on the chessboard for him to move
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  Speaker 1: as he saw fit. The then Palm Beach County State
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  Speaker 1: Attorney Barry Krischer and federal prosecutors led at the time
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: by now former U.S. Labor Secretary Alex Acosta worked out
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: what had been called the sweetheart deal with Epstein's high-powered
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: legal team. It also allowed the pedophile to plead guilty
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to misdemeanor prostitution charges. Again, that's gross. These weren't prostitutes.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: These were young girls. These were young high school-aged girls,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and this guy was in his 50s, whatever, however old
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: he was. bringing them in and enticing them with money,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: knowing that they come from underprivileged backgrounds, from broken homes,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and playing on that and using that to his advantage
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to bring them into his atmosphere, to groom them, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: then use them as he saw fit before discarding them.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They weren't prostitutes, okay? They were girls that were abused
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: by a sick, disgusting pervert. Acosta, after being asked by
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans, resigned from his government position on Friday
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: as details of the Epstein deal continue to roll out.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: In 2008, Epstein served 13 months of an 18-month sentence
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in a county jail where he only reported to his
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: cell after business hours and on weekends. Every weekday morning
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: during his sentence, Epstein's chauffeured limo picked him up outside
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the jail and drove him to a fancy downtown West
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach office so that he could continue conducting Wall
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Street business. Because we all know, right, Wall Street business
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: was the most important thing in the world, right? Got
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: to make sure that Wall Street business continues. Money over lives.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: It's gross. That whole entire way of thinking is gross.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it. It's not proper thinking.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: There's no humanity behind it. And guys like Jeffrey Epstein
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: think that way. He doesn't care about it. He didn't care,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I should say, about anybody else or anything else. Every
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: move he made was self-serving. Every bit of money he donated,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: every move he made was about his self-preservation and consolidating
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: his power and how it would serve him down the line.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Patrick was not a limo kind of girl. She rode
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in a friend's aging car to travel the 17 miles
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: from her childhood home in working class Lake Worth, Florida
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to Epstein's $ 15 million house. Patrick's name became public when
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: she was subpoenaed to testify in one of a series
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of lawsuits filed by survivors against Epstein. And when Daily
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Mail contacted her for an interview in 2015, she agreed
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to talk about the first time she ended up at
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Epstein's mansion. She admitted then to battling an addiction to drugs,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: but she was clean and sober after a stint in
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: rehab and had just applied for a job selling insurance.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it matters if she was addicted to drugs.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Does that make what happened to her any less important?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Does that make her story any less important? It doesn't
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: make it any less credible either. That was how Dershowitz
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and even the prosecution destroyed the case in the first
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: place by saying these girls were drug addicts or they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: were flirting with boys on MySpace or talking about partying
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: or whatever nonsensical BS they could come up with. So
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: when somebody is on drugs, that doesn't make them less
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of a person who could be victimized, right? Or somebody
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that could be abused. So it's important that, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: we don't need to preface that. I don't think that's important.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a human being. They might be
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on drugs, but they're still a human being, right? They
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: should be listened to. Now, of course, when somebody's messed
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: up on drugs, it definitely goes to their credibility. And
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: a good lawyer is going to exploit that for sure.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that their story shouldn't be listened to.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: A good lawyer, their job is to try and exploit
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the case, right? But it's the prosecution's job to combat that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And we didn't see that with Kirscher. We saw the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: way he just jumped on board, him and his team,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and they were helping destroy the credibility of the witness.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: That's not how that's supposed to work. At the time,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: she revealed she was engaged and was planning on marrying
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: her son's father. Patrick admitted to being a wild teenager
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: who used alcohol despite the state's drinking age of 21.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Breaking news, so did I, and I'm sure so did
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: most of you out there listening to the podcast. You
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: mean to tell me at 16, 17, 18, 19 years old,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you weren't pounding back brews or Boone's Farm or Mad
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Dog 2020 or Night Train or whatever your drink of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: choice was? Come on. I grew up in New York
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for the first, you know, bit of my life. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: then for my formative years, I grew up in Las Vegas, Nevada.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: We were definitely drinking at that age. It didn't make
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: us bad people, right? It didn't make us, you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: liars or it was just what teenagers do. And for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: them to try and use that against them, it doesn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pass the sniff test with me because it's hypocritical at best.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I was at Wellington Christian School when this first happened,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey, Patrick explained, as her son Jaden, then three,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: played nearby. It was sometime in 2003. I was at
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a party one night at a school friend's house when
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: this other girl, a friend, said we should go to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a house party in Palm Beach. I was slightly buzzed,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: so I said, why not? When we got there, my
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: friend left in a hurry, and there I was alone
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in that big mansion. There was no party going on.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: The house, she said, seemed to be occupied only by
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Epstein and a woman who appeared to work for him.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: The woman took me into a large bathroom, Patrick said,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and Jeffrey was already there with a towel around his waist.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: That's how many times we heard the same story from
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: these girls who ended up being abused by Epstein. How
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: many times have we heard the same exact scenario play out?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So again, what it does is it lends credence to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: what she was talking about. Remember, this is in 2015
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: when she gave this interview. So she's talking about the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: same things we've heard from all of these other survivors,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and this interview was never released until recently. So again,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it adds credence to what all of the survivors are saying,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and it adds to the pool of evidence that they're
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: being truthful. I remember he had a black and white
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: photo of a dick on the wall. I thought the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: whole thing was creepy. Patrick claimed Epstein gave her $ 300
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: cash and talked her into removing her shirt. She did,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: but when he allegedly asked her to take off her bra,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: she declined. He was getting aggressive about what he wanted,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Patrick said, and I got really uncomfortable, so I grabbed
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: my shirt and left. There was little doubt where this
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: was going, and I ran out of the house and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: into the street. I left because I was a scared 16-year-old,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: she said. I ran out because he was so creepy
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: he scared the life out of me. Patrick said she
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: went back to see Epstein but didn't want to discuss it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: It makes me angry just thinking about it, she said.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And do you blame her for being angry thinking about it?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, a 16-year-old girl, she goes over to this
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: guy's house and this is what happens to her when
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: she goes over there on the pretense that she's going
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to some sort of party? And who are the people
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that brought her over there for this party? What sort
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of friend does that? I mean, there's just a lot
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of scumbaggery going on in the world, and it's really depressing,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: isn't it? In 2008, as local news media reported Epstein
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to minor charges, she called one of his
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: lawyers and demanded money for what he'd done. In time,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: she told DailyMail.com she didn't want to file a lawsuit,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: but still got a $ 50, 000 settlement that included a clause
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: she could never discuss what happened at the mansion. She
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: said a friend of hers sued Epstein under the name
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: AC and also received $ 50, 000. And Epstein would gladly pay
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: out $ 50, 000. $ 50, 000 was nothing to Jeffrey Epstein. To keep
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: these girls quiet and to keep these stories behind closed doors,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he was more than willing to throw out the $ 50, 000.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: My question is, was Darren Indyke involved in that? And
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: if so, wouldn't this be paying off witnesses? How does
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he get away with it, folks? How did this man
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: get away with it for so long? These poor girls
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: were kept silent with these payoffs and $ 50, 000 is a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: lot of money when you ain't got nothing, right? When
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you have nothing, when you don't have anything and you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: have a child and you have responsibilities and you have
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: this trauma hanging over you, someone offers you 50 grand
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to sign an NDA, it's difficult not to do that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of these girls that I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: call the nameless girls are girls that did that. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them one bit. Don't confuse me at
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: all because... We're not walking in their shoes. We have
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: no idea what they've went through, how rough it's been
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: on them. So somebody, you know, the $ 50, 000, especially when
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they see that justice hasn't come so far, why should
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: they believe justice is going to come at all? Might
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: as well take the 50 grand at the very least,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: get that bit of validation. And that's what Lee did here.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: She took that $ 50, 000 and you know what? I do
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: not blame her for one second. I would have done
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the same exact thing. Dailymail.com contacted AC this week, but
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: she asked through her husband to remain anonymous. I don't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: blame her either. Why would you not want to remain
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: anonymous in this case? Unless you're somebody like Bradley Edwards
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: or somebody that's right in the eye of the storm,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: remaining anonymous is your best bet because you don't want
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to get swept up in all of this madness. AC
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: claimed in her 2008 lawsuit that she was 17 years
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: old when she was seduced by Epstein into performing acts
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of lewd and lascivious conduct for Epstein, who also touched
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: her breasts and genitalia. Again, we know that that's how
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein liked to roll as well. He was a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: very handsy, touchy kind of guy, and we see this
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: same kind of story from several of the girls. And
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's it's pathetically sad to know that they could have
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: been stopped and this all could have been stopped. But
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't because they didn't listen to Maria Farmer and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Annie Farmer when they should have. AC's husband, who also
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: asked not to be identified, said his wife handled the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: aftermath of her ordeal well, but she was one of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the lucky ones. I've been with my wife since high school,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and many of our friends ended up at Epstein's house,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: he said. We're married and we have jobs and children,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: but for a few of the girls who were abused,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they didn't turn out well. out so good he really
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: messed with these girls heads there's been psychological star scars
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that led to substance abuse Right there, folks. So AC's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: husband is telling us right there that there's other girls
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that we don't know about. I mean, we've we can assume. Right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I've speculated here on the podcast that there has
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to be, according to the evidence. And if you mathematically
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't it just doesn't seem feasible that this isn't
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the case. But again, when we hear it from somebody
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: who firsthand knowledge, it's it carries more weight. Right. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: named Patrick as one of the most egregious cases. Patrick's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: nude body was found by the cleaning crew who sought
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: off the door handle in order to get inside. Man,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: this is hard to even read. This is hard to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: even read. She was partly covered with a sheet while
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on a twin bed at the Treetops Motel in May 2017,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: where Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office deputies routinely run undercover
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: sex-for-sale sting operations. So, who knows what this poor girl
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: was going through, man. And it's really sad to read
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that her final hours were spent like that in some
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: seedy hotel, motel, by herself, or with God knows who.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And who... It's so sad to think about. It really is.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It's really upsetting. The corpse, according to the lengthy Sheriff's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Office report, was covered with bruises, abrasions, and open wounds.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: The deputies at the scene also noted open sores. Deputies
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: tracked down a man who had been renting the room
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: where Patrick's body was found, and he told them he
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: was driving out of the motel property when he picked
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: up Patrick as she ran down the street. Wow. Little
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: pause here, folks. This poor girl. All this trauma, all
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of this... nonsense she's been through and this is how
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: she ends up and this is this is what her
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: life ended up being after dealing with Jeffrey Epstein and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: being caught in the grips and the clutches of this
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: disgusting animal and you know it's uh it's sobering to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: read stuff like this We read about statistics and an
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: unnamed person was hurt here or there, but when you
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: start putting a face to it and you start hearing
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the stories behind it, it's heartbreaking to imagine this family
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and what they're going through and how they suffered knowing
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that they were helpless to help their loved one after
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the assault, during when the assault was happening, and then
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: after the assault when they fell into the clutches of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: drug addiction. He told authorities she looked like she may
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: have been beaten and was obviously under the influence of drugs.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: He said she agreed to go back to his room
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: so she could take a shower and clean up her wounds.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: In the room, the man told deputies he witnessed Patrick
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: getting high while sitting on the toilet. She'd been hiding
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: baggies filled with a white powder in her bra. When
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: she passed out, he said he flushed the drugs into
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the toilet and threw out her glass pipe in the garbage.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: She was snoring on the bed when he left to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: check out. He told deputies he figured she'd eventually wake up,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: which she didn't. I don't know about all of that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I hope that they were more thorough with this guy.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like the kind of story I'm buying, right?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Seems like maybe he was involved a little bit more
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: with her. I'm not saying he killed her or anything
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like that, but it just doesn't seem feasible to me.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: He picks her up out of the kindness of his
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: heart at this seedy hotel, brings her back to his place.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: She starts doing drugs or whatever. She passes out. He
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: splits after he throws out her dope and her works.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Doesn't add up to me. I'm not a detective or anything,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but I did watch The Wire. I mean, really, it
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: sounds kind of odd. I hope that they, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: dug a little deeper into this guy. Her son, Jaden,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: who turned seven years old later this month, was left
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: under the care of her twin sister, Selby. You know, A.C.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: 's husband said, the system may have failed them twice,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: once in letting Epstein go and a second time failing
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to provide some kind of support. Yep, A.C., you're right on, buddy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I agree with you 100%, pal. Palm Beach County records
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: show Patrick was arrested 12 times in the 14 years
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: between the time of her encounters with Epstein and her death.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Her rap sheet included possession of cocaine, domestic battery, resisting arrest,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: battery on a law enforcement officer, and assault. In 2017,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: she was arrested outside her sister's house and charged with trespassing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: She had been banned from the property after her attempts
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to see her young son, who was in her sister's custody,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: turned violent. According to records, Patrick pleaded guilty and was
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: sentenced to 17 days in the county slammer. she was
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: found dead two days excuse me she was found dead
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: two weeks after her release and we see that quite
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a bit with drug addicts as well they'll go to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: they'll do a stint in jail and especially heroin addicts
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and then they'll come out of jail and they'll try
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and go get they'll try and score and they might
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: get a hot bag and they'll shoot that that that
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: heroin up and they'll overdose there'll be too much fentanyl
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: in it maybe or it'll be too strong for them
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: after their system has had a chance to kick The
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: heroin tolerance, the opiate tolerance that it had built inside
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of its system, once it has a chance to kick that,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: they go back and they try and nail the same
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: sort of shot that they would have previously and it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: too much for them and they overdose and the people
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that they're with are like, you know what, we don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: want to get arrested so we're just going to leave
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you here to die and they split, they don't call
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the cops and then that person dies. How do I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: know something like that happens? It's happened in my own family.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So I know how that happens and how that works
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: for sure. And I certainly know what it's like to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: lose a loved one due to an overdose. So my
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: heart definitely goes out to her family in this situation.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Not only were they victimized by Jeffrey Epstein for all
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: that time... They were also victimized by the vicious cycle
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of the opiate epidemic just sweeping through the nation. So
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's definitely, it's a sobering read and it's tough to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: talk about stuff like this. But we have to remember
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that these are real people and these girls without a voice,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they deserve to be heard. So with Lee Patrick's family
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: coming out and speaking out like this and telling their
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: story and, you know, the Daily Mail running this article,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: what it does is hopefully lets others know that they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: not alone, right? And there's resources for people who have
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: been through this sort of trauma. And there are a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: lot of really good people working on this case, especially that,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you These girls can reach out to. I'm sure that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: all of the lawyers working the case will help them
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: with the proper resources and help them get whatever help
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: they need. And, you know, there are resources out there.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So hopefully some of these unnamed girls will come forward
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and they will let their story be heard. And they
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: will also be given a chance to get some reparations
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in the form of a monetary payout to help them.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you know, with the financial burden. Because how many of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: them have spent money out of their own pocket to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: go seek therapy for this? I'm sure a lot of them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So I think them getting a monetary payout would help
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: ease the burden, at least financially, and perhaps maybe let
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: them focus on moving forward with their lives and trying
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to put this behind them, as opposed to scratching and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: clawing every day, worrying about how I'm going to pay
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: for my therapy as well as my child's kindergarten or
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: nursery school or whatever it may be. So I think
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: that stories like this are important because it gives other
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: people courage to also let their stories be known and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: bring their stories out to the public. All right, folks,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: if you'd like to contact me, you could do that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. If
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you haven't, what's up everyone and welcome back to the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. One of the things I've said from the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: very beginning, pretty much here on the podcast, is that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: as these people get brought to justice and more of
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: them are brought to face the music, the more girls
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and survivors who live through the abuse of Maxwell and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Epstein are going to come forward. And we're starting to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: see that as we speak. One of the most prominent
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: lawyers in the whole entire ordeal, Bradley Edwards, is talking
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: about how even more girls are coming forward now and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: how the case and the scope of the case is
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: still growing. It just shows you the absolute wake of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: misery and sorrow that was left in the path of
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for years. And it's just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not the women and the girls that we have heard
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: of that have been out at the forefront of this.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of unnamed girls. A lot of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: unnamed women. And I've talked about it before. How, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: girls from these war-torn countries, Eastern Europe, the Balkans, insert
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: country here, who is going through financial difficulties or who
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: is going through a situation that might have seen the country...
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: in some sort of conflict. It's much easier to traffic
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: people in situations such as that, right? People lose passports.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a whole litany of things takes place
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: when people are being displaced from a war. So we
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: know that there was a huge market for Jean-Luc Brunel
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: in Eastern Europe, in the Balkans, some of these other countries.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: And we know that he was recruiting and grooming girls
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: from these countries as well. Now, we've only heard from
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a handful of women and girls who were abused by Epstein.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So the analogy I used was it's like a dam
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that gets a couple of cracks in it. After it
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: gets a couple of cracks, well, the whole entire integrity
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of the structure is, you know, at risk. And then
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: eventually the whole entire thing comes tumbling down. And I
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: think that's what we're seeing in real time here. Maybe
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: not the whole thing come tumbling down as far as
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the co-conspirators who were involved in the actual abuse. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of women
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and girls who might not have come forward previously come
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: forward now that they see that. All right, well, maybe
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: things are moving in the right direction. Maybe the gears
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of justice are turning in the right direction with Ghislaine
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Maxwell being arrested. And I would think that we're going
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to see even more of it. We saw it in
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the wake of Epstein. When the girls and they felt
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: more secure, right? These women who were abused as children
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: or as young ladies, they felt a lot more secure
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: when Epstein was dead to come forward and talk about
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: what they experienced. They felt like there was less of
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a chance that he would be able to ruin them
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: from the grave. So with Maxwell, basically... defanged here and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: behind bars, I would not be shocked in the least
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to see a lot more women come forward. And that's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: why I say during a mistrial, if there is one
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that's declared, it might even go worse for Maxwell. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: this article talks about that as well. It was obvious
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to me that it would be even harder the second
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: time around for Maxwell to get off. But her team
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: knows this is the only thing that they have, right?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: The only hope that they have is to get this
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: as a mistrial and to drag it out a little
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: bit longer in hopes that another technicality pops up or
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: that they have another loophole that they can access. Because
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they know that the evidence is not in their favor.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It's never been in their favor. It's never going to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: be in their favor. So, looking at an appeal... I
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: don't think that's going to work out so well for him.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Just take a look at how Maxwell's bail attempts went
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: throughout this whole entire situation. Denied, denied, denied, offered up
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a gigantic amount of money, denied. So I highly doubt
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that her appeal is going to be met with any
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: sort of positive reaction by the court. And that's the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: way it should be, in my opinion. When you commit
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a crime like this, I really don't feel like there's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: any kind of rehabilitation for you. When you're abusing children,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable amongst us, you should go and do
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a million years in prison. So I'm glad that she
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: wasn't able to get bailed out throughout this whole thing.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there was a lot of cynical
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: people out there who thought she was going to make
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: bail just because how broken the system is. And really,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: can you blame people who take that approach? I try
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: not to. I get it, honestly. The system is broken.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: People are cynical. You can't look at the institutions that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: we once trusted and tell me that you still trust
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: them with no doubt about it. There's no reserve when
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you're looking, reservations when you're looking at what they do.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: These institutions are not trustworthy because they're untrustable. And they're
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the ones who have made that bet. But, you know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you had people who really thought that she was going
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to get bailed out, that she was never even going
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to face trial. And, again, I can't even be critical
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of those kinds of people. I won't even call them
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists, to be honest with you. When you look
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: at a broken system and you expect the worst, that's just,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you know, that's human nature at this point, right? So,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I knew that she'd end up staying in jail, staying
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: in prison. I never thought that she'd beat these charges.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And the only way that she would ever be able
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: to would be through a loophole or a technicality or
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: perhaps something that presented itself like with juror 50. But
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: even that's not enough for her to get off. Maybe
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: enough to initiate that mistrial, but certainly not enough to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: get her off. And I don't think there's a jury
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: in the land. And that's not hyperbole when I say that, folks.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a jury in the land that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't find her guilty on the majority of these charges. Hell,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if the next jury, if there
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: was a mistrial, long shot at this point in my opinion,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: but if there is, I wouldn't be shocked if she's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: found guilty on all charges at that point. And then
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I really hope the government sticks it to her and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: pursues those perjury charges on the back end of all
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of this, make her pay some more money, make her
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: litigated some more. And, you know, add a couple more years,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: like 10 on the back end of that sentence. That's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what happens if you don't play ball, right? Should just
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: take your L here and move on, Ghislaine. But she
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: won't do it. Her lawyers won't do it. And it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: just going to get worse for her because there's going
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to be more survivors who come out and tell their stories.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So tonight we have two articles. First, we're going to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: talk about this topic right here that we're talking about
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: right now. And that is Bradley Edwards and him dishing
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: about more girls coming forward and a little bit about
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the perhaps there being a mistrial. Then after that, we're
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: going to close out the show on a bit of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a lighter note. with that moron, Prince Andrew, and the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: fact that he played a hide-and-seek game with his teddy bears.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I know we've talked about the teddy bears a lot, right,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of days, but now it's coming
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: out that this dude played a hide-and-seek game that he
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: made the hell participate in with his teddy bears? Oh yeah,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that for sure. All right, but first,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: before we go down that road, how about we hop
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: into this article from Insider and author Jacob Shamsian. Over
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: at Insider, and the headline is, a new trial for
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell would go even worse for her as accusers.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Lawyer says more women came forward after her sex trafficking conviction.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And this was to be expected, right? I had no
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that more women were going to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: come forward here. And there would be more tea being spilled.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that were around Ghislaine Maxwell.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. This whole operation. That knew what was going on.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't have a full look behind the curtain, right?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't sitting there participating. But you mean to
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: tell me nobody was talking? There was no scuttlebutt? You
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: know when you're in a group of friends and everybody's friendly?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Somebody has some kind of, you know, weird behavior that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: they're up to? People talk about it. Hey, you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: John and Jen, they're swimmers. You know? That's just how
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: it's human nature, right? People talk about scuttlebutt. You mean
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to tell me right now that there was never any
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: talk about this, huh? About, oh, Jeffrey likes him young? Well,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you might want to talk to Ellen Powell, ex-CEO of Reddit,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: about that because she says, according to her, everybody knew
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: what they were. I think Cindy McCain also said the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: same thing. So the whole, oh, we had no idea
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: type shit, it's a loose ass defense, in my opinion,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and certainly not a defense at all after his first arrest.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Before the first arrest, you could say, all right, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: had no idea that what he was. And while I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: might be suspicious of it, I can't really pinpoint it
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and say, oh, you're a liar. Now, if you were
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: hanging out with him after the first arrest, you're just
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a straight up piece of shit. You already know what
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: this dude is. Oh, it was soliciting a prostitute in Florida.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Stop it. You know it wasn't that. But yet these
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: people still chose to chill with this dude. The prospect
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: of a new trial for Ghislaine Maxwell would be frustrating
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: for survivors who may be asked to testify again and
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to the prosecutors who successfully convicted her on charges of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: sex trafficking them to Jeffrey Epstein. Definitely frustrating. Who wants
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to live through that again? That was very traumatic for
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: these ladies. Getting up there, testifying, whole world watching, basically.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Reliving the absolute horror that you went through. Definitely not
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: going to be fun. But like they said in the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: opening here with Brad Edwards, what he said, I think
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it'll be worse for her. There are more women coming
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: forward as we speak on a daily basis. But it
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be the end of the world, according to Brad Edwards,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: an attorney representing 58 women who have accused Epstein of misconduct.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And if I said it once, I'll say it again.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I am not a fan of lawyers for the most part.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I find them to be pretty much repugnant characters. People
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that are, you know, ambulance chasing, clout chasing. chasing, that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. But Brad Edwards, as far as I
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: can tell, is a pretty solid human being and a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: really decent guy, it would seem. So you should probably
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: check out his book that he has out, Relentless Pursuit.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Definitely a good book, a book that I have personally.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: And if you're looking for more context about what Bradley
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Edwards' part in all of this was, he can certainly
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: explain it better than any of us can. So definitely
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: check that book out if you want to know more
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: about him. Since jurors convicted Maxwell in late December, more
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: women have contacted Edwards to say they'd be willing to participate...
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and any investigations into her conduct, he told Insider. What
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: has happened since the guilty verdict is more people have
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: come forward, willing to share their stories about Ghislaine and testify,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Edwards said. So I don't think a new trial would
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: go any better for her. In fact, I think it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: would go worse for her. And this is what I've
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: been saying, right? A mistrial, well, on the face of it,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: sounds a bit disastrous. But in the long run, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: think it would be even worse for Maxwell and her team. Well,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: not her team's bank accounts, but for Maxwell and her
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: team to even go through a mistrial here. They should
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: cut bait. They should accept getting rid of the perjury
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: charges up to 10, get those dropped, and then, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: go and seek some kind of a light sentence from
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the judge as light as you're going to get, you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: 40 years, 50 years, whatever it might be. But if
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you fight this and you try and waste the time
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of the court and the citizens, then I would hope
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: that they look for maximum sentence. For every little thing.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: And like Brad Edwards says, tag some shit on. Let's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: get that Rico case going that we always talk about.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: That would be a great idea. Maxwell's attorneys formally filed
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: their motion for a retrial Wednesday night. The motion is
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: under seal, but in previous court filings, they argued that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a juror's comments to the media about his own experience
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: with sexual abuse indicate he should not have been seated
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: on the jury in the first place. Now, first of all,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: it's boo-boo and garbage that this is even being filed
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: under seal. At this point, How is anything like this
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: being filed under seal? This should all be transparent. How
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: is it a secret that you're trying to get this
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: trial overturned here on what the juror allegedly said or
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: didn't say? I don't understand the secrecy of it. And again,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it just goes to whip people up into a frenzy
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: and get people talking, you know, out of the side
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: of their neck. And again, it's not even that I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: blame people for doing that because I really don't. It's the...
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: current climate that we're in. Nobody knows where to turn
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: for truthful news or who to trust. And it's taking
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a toll. Edwards represented one of the four women who
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: testified last month in Maxwell's trial in federal court in Manhattan.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: The woman, who testified under the pseudonym Kate, Said Maxwell
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: befriended her as a teenager, dangled the possibility that Epstein
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: could help her career with powerful music industry connections, and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: then introduced her to sexualized massages with Epstein. And we
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: all know the MO at this point. I'm not going
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to beat a dead horse and go into it. But
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: imagine hearing the stories that Brad Edwards has heard from
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: all of these different girls who have come to him
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: seeking his help. It was the beginning of a sexually
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: abusive relationship with Epstein that lasted for years, Kay testified.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: She said that Maxwell often arranged sexual encounters between her
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and Epstein and that she felt fearful about leaving their
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: orbit because they name-dropped powerful friends like Prince Andrew and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So, look, for us on the outside, it's
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: easy to sit there and try and put yourself in
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: their shoes and say, oh, I would have done this,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I would have left, I would have... You don't know.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Until you're in that situation, you do not know what
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you would have done, how you would have reacted. In fact,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: unless you've ever been poor or from a broken home
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like this, then you really have no idea what's going on. U.S.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: District Judge Allison Nathan, who oversaw the trial, told jurors
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: they could not convict Maxwell based on Kate's testimony about
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Epstein's sexual misconduct. Kate was at the age of consent
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: in London when Epstein first sexually abused her. So she
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: couldn't be considered one of Maxwell's survivors for the purposes
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: of the trial, according to Edwards. Still was abused, you
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And again, it's obviously. Crimes against
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: children are legitimately the most heinous crime you could possibly
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: be engaged in. Second, in my opinion, is a crime
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: against a woman or an older person. What in the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: hell is wrong with people? But Kate's testimony helped jurors
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: understand that Maxwell used the same playbook over and over
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: again when trafficking young women to Epstein for sex, he explained.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: She provided information about the dynamic between Ghislaine and Jeffrey,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Edwards said, what their life was like together then, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: what type of arrangements that Ghislaine was capable of making,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the knowledge of what Epstein's intentions were. So again, Bradley
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Edwards dropping some knowledge. Add in some context to the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: whole story. And who knows better than the guy that's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: on the front line since the very beginning. Remember, Jeffrey
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Epstein feared Bradley Edwards so much that he had private
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: investigators combing through his trash looking for dirt on him
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and shit. A new trial would also mean that prosecutors
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: could present more evidence to convict Maxwell and keep her
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: behind bars for the rest of her life, Edwards said. Maxwell, 60,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: faces a sentence of up to 65 years. Nathan said
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: she will hold a sentencing hearing this summer if Maxwell
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: is not granted a new trial. I'm not ultimately that
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: worried about the end result, Edwards said. Such is life.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: You have hurdles. And he is not wrong about that, right?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: And when you're engaged in something for the long run...
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and you're committed to something for the long run, the
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: way Bradley Edwards is, then this is just ready, you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: he's ready to go. He's one of those dudes, he
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like bites down on his mouthpiece in like round 96,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and he comes out, he's still fresh, ready to go.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: His opponent's all beat up, tired. That's the kind of
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: dude that Bradley Edwards is. So if they want to
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: go for the mistrial, my guess is he's ready to rock.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: All right. So that's going to conclude that article. And
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: that's where we're at as far as more potential victims
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and survivors coming forward. And it's just like I said,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I think I was just talking about this yesterday or
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: earlier today. Do so many episodes. It gets all confusing
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: to me. But we were just talking about it, how
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I believe that more women are going to come out
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and give their stories. And then this article drops. So
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: that's where we're at with that. And I would expect
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a lot more folks as we move forward. All right.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: So I said we'd close on a light note tonight
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and we're going to do that. And that light note
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: is this buffoon, this moron, this prince of nothing, Prince
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Andrew and his knucklehead ass behavior. All right. So this
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: is an article from the Scottish Sun and the headline
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: is Teddy Games. Prince Andrew made his maid play hide
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and seek with his teddy bears. Look, I'm not making
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: it up, folks, alright? That sounds like some wild-ass shit
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: that I'm sitting around eating elk meat and consuming DMT
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: with Joe Rogan before coming on here and talking to you,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: but this is real life, and that's what the headline says.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Julia Atherley. Prince Andrew would
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: play hide-and-seek with his teddy bears. Despite being nearly 40,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a former housemaid at Buckingham Palace has revealed... He used
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: to have his maids conceal one of his stuffed toys
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: if he was going out for the night. Oh, what
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a great game. Let's play hide-and-seek. I mean, is this
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: guy for real? As Sebastian Maniscalco would say, Aren't you embarrassed?
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Your stuffed toys if you were going out for the night?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I wonder if you were playing with your stuffed toys
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: before you went over to Tramp. The Duke of York, a.k.a.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Prince of Nothing, would then try to find it when
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: he came back. What a great game. I'm going to
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: go out all night, but you hide the teddy, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: when I come home, I'm going to try and find it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: 40-year-old man. Prince. Ex-war hero. Full-time clown. Jeanette McGowan, who
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: worked at Buckingham Palace from 1999 to 2000, remembers the
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: game Andrew would play when he was 39. The former housekeeper, 65,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: from near Edinburgh, told the son it was a little
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: game he would play with his maid. She would hide
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: one of the teddy bears somewhere unexpected, like the bathroom cabinet.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: When he came back to the palace, he would have
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to try and find it. It was a bit odd,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and it was very tongue-in-cheek. Very tongue-in-cheek, a bit odd.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: 40-year-old man, Prince of England, hiding teddy bears? Little more
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: than a touch odd. Downright weird. Okay? Take your beanie
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: baby collection and beat it, pal. He used to find
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it very funny. His regular maid said it was just
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: something she always did. This week it emerged that the
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: demanding duke ordered flunkies to arrange five teddies and soft
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: toys in specific positions on his bed every night. Really?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Calling them flunkies? That's what they're called? How about working
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: class people who are trying to make a living by
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: pampering this stupid son of a bitch? Staff had a
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: sketch showing precisely how the items should be set. out. Andrew,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: now 61, said in 2010 he had always collected teddy bears.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Jeanette recalled 40 to 50 of them would be piled
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: on his bed during the day, only to be moved
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: off each night. She said, my recollection is that there
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: was a Polaroid picture of of how the teddy bears
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: would have to be placed kept in the bedside drawer. Yeah, nah,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: no books. Yeah, forget it. I don't need a Bible or,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: for me, you know, a George R.R. Martin novel or
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: a Joe Abercrombie novel. Nah. I just need to make
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: sure I have this Polaroid picture of how my teddy
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: bears go back. Take it easy, Buffalo Bill. I could
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: see this dude dancing around like Buffalo Bill in his
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: now-stripped military uniform. listening to some funky music with his
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: teddy bears. And with that image, folks, I'm going to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: leave you for the night. Sorry about that. Really apologize.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I will be back tomorrow morning, obviously, and we will
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: pick this right back up, and we will continue on
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: the quest of the ever-evolving case of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, and the rest of the nincompoops. If you'd
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: like to contact me, you can do that at BobbyCapucci
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. Sorry, I have my
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: dog here with me tonight, and he's being a goofball.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: It just made me laugh. You can also find me
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: at Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The links that we
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: discussed can be found in the description box. All right, folks,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: some more context applications.